#Selfbuilt drone, but not for fpv

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near ibex
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Hi, i wanna build my first drone in the near future, and been looking through some build guides. I don't intent to fly with googles though, i wanna control it mostly via a laptop. It doesn't have to do crazy turns or high speeds, just fly reliable. I just dn't know what to search up for, as fpv kinda implifies using googles/racing/cinematic shots, and i don't want to use a prebuilt drone. In my unexperienced head there should be a way to plug the receiver in a laptop + an antenna, and control the drone over some programm that supports its protocol? Does anyone has experience with this, if there is a name for this usecase or knows a guide? Thanks!
For example, one setup i like would be: https://rotorbuilds.com/build/16210
Is it possible to just add a gyro to this, to assist on flying without controller?
Or do only certain FCs support that? Sorry i'm a complete beginner >.<

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Selfbuilt drone, but not for fpv

supple pond
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That's a pretty old setup.
What do you intend to do with it?

near ibex
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I want to use it as a flying data collection robot basically, for education

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Infrared cam, some proximity and humidity sensors maybe

supple pond
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do you realise that the stuff we fly here is NOT autonomous in any way shape or form?

near ibex
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Yes

supple pond
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well, that's a contradiction...

near ibex
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I'm more asking if you could point into a direciton of where i should ask for help with that

supple pond
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it honestly sounds like you want a DJI but don't want a DJI

near ibex
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if you mean of the company dji, kinda

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I want to build it myself

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xd

supple pond
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That's a difficult proposition.

near ibex
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Thats why the idea was a fpv with gyro and diffrent control hardware

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Doesn't seem you think it makes much sense

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any alternative you know?

supple pond
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FPV drones normally aren't capable of maintaining a set position

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without fast pilot input

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You need to add a positioning system of some kind

near ibex
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even with gps and gyro?

supple pond
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gyro is irrelevant to positioning

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that lets you control attitude

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GPS is okay for an accuracy in the meters range

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with INAV or Ardupilot you can make that stay in place

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but then you need altitude

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for which you need a baro, laser or sonar

near ibex
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ohh thats what you mean, it really just has to be able to stay straight, not in one place

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i'd still pilot it

supple pond
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in that case why pilot it from a PC?

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just use a conventional radio, much less hassle

near ibex
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Dislike of goggles, and i'd like to monitor the inpt data it collects

supple pond
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I didn't say anything about goggles

near ibex
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You mean controller vs keyboard?

supple pond
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you're not getting anywhere with a keyboard lol

near ibex
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okay glad to have asked here before trying it xD

supple pond
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controlling a drone without the stuff which allows it to control its own position

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is a fiddly business

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experienced pilots can keep it in one spot, but that's not easy

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you're constantly doing microadjustments

near ibex
supple pond
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INAV and Ardupilot are firmwares for flight controllers

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Betaflight, which most FPV stuff runs, doesn't support any "self-control" modes currently

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INAV runs on lots of the same FC's as BF

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for general location outside, you need GPS

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for precise movement, you need optical flow

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it's like a mouse sensor

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just for large area

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DJI stuff uses a bunch of sensors like these to keep in place

near ibex
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ohh like that

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i understand, thank you

supple pond
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optical flow sensors typically look downwards below the drone and really work like a PC mouse sensor @near ibex

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it lets the drone detect tiny changes in position

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INAV supports one kind iirc

near ibex
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current plan would be getting a inav supporting fc with fitting fpv setup around it, one of those optical flow sensors, and getting it to keep its position while flying "normal" fpv as first step then, from what i understand

supple pond
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I would recommend starting from something fairly standard and making it fly itself progressively

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At some point you'd be able to control it from a PC, even with waypoint commands...

near ibex
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Sounds good

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Thank you for your patience and help !

supple pond
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I would recommend looking up ExpressLRS radio system, as it has some very good docs, and uses some common (in the hobby) protocols - namely CRSF.

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ExpressLRS also has a system (firmware variant) called "AirPort", which gives you a transparent serial link between a transmitter and receiver instead of CRSF command packets.