#Tyro129 help with setup

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sharp owl
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can someone check my betaflight settings i messed up

modest ivy
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for how long have you left the drone powered on?

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with a LiPo?

sharp owl
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its off right now

modest ivy
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Tyro129 help with setup

modest ivy
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because you said you dont have any video signal, and a VTX can get REALLY hot and die

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if you leave it on for too long without flying (the air cools it)

sharp owl
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5 minutes

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oh

modest ivy
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5 minutes is fine

sharp owl
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ok

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it also doesn't continuously beep anymore after i messed with some settings

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modest ivy
sharp owl
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ok

cobalt axle
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Brought about 20 people in

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What was it that you wanted? Bind the radio? Or just try to make it beep properly first

sharp owl
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oh my bad

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make it beep properly first

modest ivy
sharp owl
modest ivy
sharp owl
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I dont know

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I also messed up some settings in CLI Mode

modest ivy
sharp owl
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no

modest ivy
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if you cant remember that anymore and dont have a backup, we are pretty much screwed and a reflash and configure from start is needed

sharp owl
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ok

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how do i do that

modest ivy
modest ivy
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apart from that - this is a 7" quad - the props are litterly spinning blades

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please learn to fly in a simulator! You can seriously injure yourself or others with this! Its not a toy!

modest ivy
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good

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then procede with a basic betaflight tutorial, i can recommand joshua bardwell

sharp owl
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so i should just copy all the settings on the link you sent

modest ivy
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no - this is a very old betaflight version, i would say you want 4.4.2

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for that you need the latest configurator version and flash newer firmware

sharp owl
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ok

modest ivy
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here is a start

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watch both

sharp owl
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and whats after that

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then its set up?

modest ivy
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how about you watch it first?

sharp owl
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ok

sharp owl
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im at the part wher i need to connect my controller

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how do i do that

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@modest ivy

modest ivy
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what controler do you have?

sharp owl
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BETAFPV ExpressLRS LiteRadio 2 SE Radio Transmitter Remote Controller with Built-in 1000mAh 1S Battery for FPV RC Racing Drones Multirotor Simulator Joystick Calibration - Mode 2 Left Throttle

modest ivy
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okay, show me your Receiver tab from configurator

sharp owl
modest ivy
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have you flashed 4.4.2 and are you using the latest betaflight configurator

sharp owl
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i am on the latest

sharp owl
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@modest ivy

modest ivy
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from start to end?

sharp owl
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im 20mins in the first video

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and i need to connect my controller to test the reciever

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@modest ivy

modest ivy
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stop pinging me all the time

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ELRS is pretty simple, do you have a WiFi device? Laptop or Phone?

modest ivy
sharp owl
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yes but to be honest it doesn't make sense

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i dont have the same chip layout from the picture

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how do i Power on and power off the receiver

modest ivy
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normally it has a LED on it

sharp owl
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is it the blue light

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or blinking red light

modest ivy
sharp owl
modest ivy
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that is your flight controller

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had you the drone connected to a LiPo without the Antenna attched?

modest ivy
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in the back, you normally screw in the antenna for the video signal

sharp owl
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oh

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so i need one?

modest ivy
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if the vtx was on for 5 minutes at max power, without a antenna attached, it is most likely toast

modest ivy
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without the Antenna the output power will bounce back into the VTX and will heat it up, until it is dead

sharp owl
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can it cool down or no

modest ivy
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you must buy a new one and replace it

sharp owl
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oh

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so if i buy a reciever ill be fine?

modest ivy
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your VTX, but we dont even know if it is dead or not

pale nexus
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VTX = video transmitter
we're warning you that the video transmitter can die if you power it up without an antenna connected
emphasis on can

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For the ELRS stuff - you don't have a receiver in the drone?

sharp owl
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ive had it on for 1 hour now

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nope

pale nexus
sharp owl
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yes

pale nexus
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how did your battery last that long?

sharp owl
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i wasnt flying maybe

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maybe 30 minutes then

pale nexus
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My question should've pointed you towards checking if the battery is even alive >.>

sharp owl
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ive had it plugged in for 1hr though

modest ivy
pale nexus
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oof

sharp owl
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yes

pale nexus
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well, let's hope the VTX was set to like 25mW or something

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anyway, THE BATTERY

modest ivy
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so you pray now, that it was set to the lowest power setting, otherwise it is 100% dead

pale nexus
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what voltage is your battery at? @sharp owl

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dammit discord

modest ivy
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xD

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@sharp owl this is REALLY important

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disconnect your battery

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get a multimeter and measure the voltage of it

sharp owl
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11.1v

modest ivy
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how many cells?

pale nexus
sharp owl
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40

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40c

modest ivy
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CELLS

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3S - 4S - 6S

sharp owl
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i read it

modest ivy
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show a photo

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40C is discharge rate

pale nexus
# sharp owl i read it

when you want to check what battery level your phone is at, do you take the manual and read the battery capacity?

sharp owl
pale nexus
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so, it's a 3 cell battery (of garbage quality)
NOW

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what voltage is it at?

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what charger have you got?

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I bet it's a B6 or something worse, but still.. need to know

sharp owl
pale nexus
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jesus christ

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worse.

modest ivy
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okay @sharp owl if you are not careful now - you can burn your house down!

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HOLY FUCK

pale nexus
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Yeah this is amateur pyrotechnics

cobalt axle
modest ivy
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yeah

cobalt axle
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We're more used to this stuff

modest ivy
cobalt axle
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@sharp owl do you happen to have a multimeter?

pale nexus
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@sharp owl Plug the battery and USB into the drone, connect Betaflight Configurator, and take a look in the top bar

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at the battery meter

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or send a screenshot

sharp owl
pale nexus
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okay unplug the battery

modest ivy
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3.3v

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per cell

pale nexus
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it's at 9.92V
9.92/3 = 3.3V per cell

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that's barely above completely empty

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so yeah the battery has to take a break

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You should charge it up but I can't recommend in any way shape or form the usage of your current charger

pale nexus
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The charger that you're using is in the "fire hazard" category, and frankly, so is the battery.

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Now, omitting that, do you already have the LiteRadio 2 SE ? @sharp owl

sharp owl
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yes

pale nexus
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Just wanna warn you - that radio has a pretty poor reputation, and is stuck on ExpressLRS 2.0.1

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as BetaFPV has decided to just not bother updating it

sharp owl
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wow

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ok

pale nexus
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It will work with a receiver that can run ExpressLRS 2

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many of the recent ones are ELRS 3+ only

sharp owl
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oh

pale nexus
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Look for something like a Happymodel EP1

sharp owl
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ok

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so is my vtx fried?

pale nexus
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that's purely luck based

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go to Video Transmitter tab in BF Configurator

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is it empty?

sharp owl
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yes

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its done right?

pale nexus
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Video Transmitter tab, if configured to not be empty, would have told us what power level the VTX was set to

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but since it's not configured, the only way to tell is by looking at the VTX's LEDs

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So, back to "no way to know"

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honestly, I've seen VTXs survive more often than not

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but not 1hr

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but hey

sharp owl
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how about 30mins

pale nexus
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still a chance

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usually the powered up time is in singular minutes, max

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You'll know once you have goggles

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and antennas

sharp owl
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if it is done can i just get a reciver

pale nexus
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"can"

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you can't fly the drone without a receiver

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so you kinda "need" to get a receiver

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so that the radio can talk to the drone

sharp owl
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ok

pale nexus
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the VTX is unrelated to that

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@sharp owl the receiver most likely won't come with wires
so you need to provide your own (28 or 30AWG is typical for a receiver)
so that you can solder it on

sharp owl
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oh

sharp owl
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RC FPV Receiver Parts Combo 5.8G 14DBI High Gain Flat Panel & Mushroom FPV Antenna for EV800D FPV Goggles Receiver RC Drones Quadcopter would this help

pale nexus
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with what

sharp owl
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connection

pale nexus
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what connection

sharp owl
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one on the drone and one on the googles

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how would i connect a dx6e transmitter to my drone

pale nexus
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same way as the literadio

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by putting a compatible receiver into the drone

sharp owl
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RC FPV Receiver Parts Combo 5.8G 14DBI High Gain Flat Panel & Mushroom FPV Antenna for EV800D FPV Goggles Receiver RC Drones Quadcopter is this good

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if i put one on the drone and another on the goggles

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@pale nexus

pale nexus
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@cobalt axle could you plsl

sharp owl
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one antenna on the drone and the other on the googles

tight holly
sharp owl
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ok

cobalt axle
sharp owl
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i want them to have better connection to each other

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Would the receiver go here @cobalt axle

cobalt axle
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that's where your VTX antenna would go

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if you didn't want to fry your VTX

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a receiver is a small board that you solder to the flight controller so that it can receive the signals from the radio and give them to the flight controller. Without it you wouldn't even be able to fly

sharp owl
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oh

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so if i get a vtx antenna it would help

cobalt axle
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help with what?

sharp owl
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my drone connect to my goggles

cobalt axle
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you kinda need a VTX antenna... it's not something that helps

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without it you will either fry the VTX, not go very far, or both in that order

sharp owl
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is this a good vtx antenna

cobalt axle
# sharp owl ?

if you run the VTX without an antenna, it will destroy it. Some VTXs may have protection against it, so it will just output at extreme low power levels. Or it will do the first and that will cause the second

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reading that you had the VTX powered on for over 30 mins does not give me much hope for it still being on ok shape, especially considering that it's eachine

sharp owl
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ok

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what if i get an antenna now will it change anything

cobalt axle
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probably not... it's not like it will force the magic smoke back in

tight holly
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Energy created by a transmitter has to go somewhere. If an antenna isn't available, then the energy will get reflected back into the sensitive transmitter, often killing it. Just thought I'd add for future reference

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so the same goes for the control link transmitter (the controller in your hands)

sharp owl
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if i were to replace it on the scale of 1-10 how easy would it be

pale nexus
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First, figure out how dead it is.

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For that, you need to buy an antenna with the correct connector for the drone.

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If you don't have one already

sharp owl
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ok

pale nexus
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The connector is SMA

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RP-SMA is NOT the same thing

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you want a SMA RHCP omnidirectional antenna

sharp owl
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FPV Small WiFi Antenna 2.4GHz Wireless Module Omni Directional Thumb Antenna mmdvm Network Router Antenna SMA Male TX RX Mini RHCP Racing Drone Antenna for Multicopter WiFi USB Adapter Pack of 2

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is this good?

pale nexus
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no idea

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it's not a picture nor a link

sharp owl
pale nexus
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yeah that's terrible

sharp owl
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do you have a recommendation

pale nexus
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some examples as to what the right antennas look like

sharp owl
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this?

pale nexus
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looks okay to me

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aside from the fact that it's amazon

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if you're already ordering stuff, order a receiver too

sharp owl
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ok

pale nexus
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look for EP1 receiver
if you want to use the ELRS radio

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no clue what would work well with the spektrum one

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probably nothing since it's spektrum

sharp owl
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does this look good

pale nexus
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yes... I think
I wonder why the antenna is greyed out

sharp owl
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yea

pale nexus
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it's the correct receiver, but I wonder if that one comes with an antenna

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it normally does, but idk on amazon

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lots of weird shit

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but it doesn't come with wires

sharp owl
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yea

pale nexus
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so you'll have to provide your own wires

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28 or 30 awg is typical

sharp owl
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ok

tight holly
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silicone wires

pale nexus
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oh yeah not PVC

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you'll hate yourself if you buy/use PVC sheathed wires

sharp owl
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ok

pale nexus
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soldering them is a royal pain in the..

tight holly
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If you want a nice little challenge, find some old USB electronics (wired mouse or smth) and rip off the external jacket to expose a few feet of four separate insulated wires. Proceed to extract those wires (ignoring the questionable white powdery substance coating them for lubrication between the main sheath) and use them to solder together your quad.

sharp owl
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ok

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thanks for all the help btw

tight burrow
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These are solid

tight holly
# sharp owl ok

(that was a joke. please do not try that unless you actually enjoy suffering)