Flashing receiver and transmitter

[light sandal]

weird

[vital patio]

Alright are you on a laptop or desktop computer?

[light sandal]

laptop

[vital patio]

Alright. Make sure your controller is right next to it. Go into the ExpressLRS tool on the controller and go to Wifi Connectivity, then select "Enable WiFi"

[light sandal]

alr

do i do expresslrs tx or rx

[vital patio]

Once that is running, go to your laptop and you should see a new Wifi network called ExpressLRS TX. The password will be "expresslrs". Once it's connected, in your browser, confirm that it's working by going to http://10.0.0.1/. Assuming that works, go back to ELRS Configurator, and select "WIFI" as your Flashing Method. Make sure the bottom of the screen looks like this screenshot. If it does, select Build and Flash again

[light sandal]

alr im trying it now

i might go after this btw

gotta do some homework

[vital patio]

NP

[light sandal]

but i gotta see what happens with this

[vital patio]

Did you really have an ExpressLRS RX wifi option? That's good to know

[light sandal]

yes

[vital patio]

That means your quad has a wifi mode too, you can flash ELRS without plugging in anything at all lol

Something to note is that when you use ELRS wifi, the range is quite limited. Like I said, your controller or your quad basically has to be right next to the laptop for it to work

[light sandal]

weird

[vital patio]

Alright, if you go to http://10.0.0.1, what do you see?

[light sandal]

sorry dude i gotta go

thanks for all the help tho i rly appreciate it

[vital patio]

Sure thing. We'll try again tomorrow

[light sandal]

👍

[vital patio]

I went back and reviewed what we've done. It looks like your controller never flashed properly at the start, so it is still on ELRS v2.4.0. Your quad is on elrs v3.2.0. Major versions aren't compatible, so a 2.x and 3.x hardware combination won't work. We just need to get your controller updated.

[light sandal]

ohhhh ok

well i just woke up and i am ready whenever you are

[light sandal]

@crisp basin can you help?

or are you busy?

[crisp basin]

Where did you leave off?

[light sandal]

he said that the controller didn’t flash properly

[light sandal]

here

[crisp basin]

huh, I thought you flashed it successfully

well, let's do that then

[light sandal]

give me 5 mins

ok i’m ready

what do we do first?

@crisp basin

hello are you still here?

@crisp basin ?

[crisp basin]

when you edit a message to ping me, it does not ping me

[light sandal]

oh

oops my bad didnt know that

[crisp basin]

just be patient, I'm juggling writing Betaflight documentation and video editing. I'll pop in whenever I have the time

[light sandal]

alr

[crisp basin]

start by setting the transmitter settings as shown before

[light sandal]

this one right

[crisp basin]

yes

[light sandal]

and then do i click biuld and flash or just biuld

also i click the bottom one here right

[crisp basin]

connect the radio, select the VCP option, and find the port in the configurator

then build and flash

[light sandal]

ok

alr that is done

@crisp basin

do i click download lua script now?

[crisp basin]

yea

[light sandal]

ok done

whats next

do i need to like put the lua script on the radio or something

@crisp basin

[crisp basin]

yeah, but that's not mission critical

[light sandal]

ok

[crisp basin]

open the sd card from the radio

[light sandal]

is it tihs

or where is it

i dont think that's it

oh nevermind i got it

@crisp basin

[crisp basin]

neither of those are correct

[light sandal]

is it still on vcp?

or should i change it to sd

for the controller

[crisp basin]

it should be something like this

[crisp basin]

yes

[light sandal]

on vcp?

ah here we go

@crisp basin

[crisp basin]

don't ping me for every second message you send. Again, just patience

[light sandal]

ok sorry

[crisp basin]

move the lua script to the SCRIPTS folder

[light sandal]

alr done

what shall we do next

vitroid

[crisp basin]

move it into the tools folder

[light sandal]

ok what’s next

i got this and a couple more things

[crisp basin]

go to the radio, navigate to the Tools menu, and run the ELRS one

[light sandal]

ok

done

do i need to tturn on the wifi things

and go to 10.0.0.1

im guessing i have to put something in the model configuration file?

@crisp basin

[crisp basin]

don't jump ahead

[light sandal]

ok

[crisp basin]

just do as described for now

[light sandal]

alr

sorry i just dont have a lot of time

[crisp basin]

well...? Then let's continue. I asked to open the ELRS tool, did you manage that?

[light sandal]

shoot sorry man i had to do a bunch or errands

i’ll be back in like 1/2 hour

then we can continue

[light sandal]

@crisp basin you ready to continue?

@crisp basin ?

[crisp basin]

You're making it harder and harder to take this seriously

but yes, let's continue

[light sandal]

ok sorry

so i opened the express lrs configurator thing

what shall i do next

[crisp basin]

the tools menu

it should show the version on the module

[light sandal]

where is the tools menu?

[crisp basin]

long press the SYS button on the radio

[light sandal]

oh oops

ok im in the tools menu now

do i need to plug it into my computer>?

the controller

or what

[crisp basin]

no, just enter the ELRS tool

[light sandal]

ok done

whats next

oh it does say 3.2.0 in the corner

which is good i think

[crisp basin]

yeah

[light sandal]

ok great

so what next then?

[crisp basin]

try to see if it binds to the quad when you power it on

[light sandal]

how would i know if it binds?

when i arm it?

its solid green right now

which i think is good

nothing is happening when i arm it

[crisp basin]

in the receiver tab, it should show movement

[crisp basin]

what steps did you take to set up arming?

[light sandal]

receiver tab on betaflight?

nope theres nothing on the receiver tab

even when i move the sticks :(

i tried making these two things but im not sure if they are correct

yea idk why its not working

so weird

seems like its connected but nothing happens after that

[crisp basin]

does the radio react to the drone being powered on/off?

Should show a signal indicator or something like that

[light sandal]

it’s got this

if thats what you mean

[crisp basin]

and when you power the drone off?

[light sandal]

let me try

one sec

yea nothing happens when i unplug the drone

still shows the same signal

weird...

ok so what do we try then

[crisp basin]

are you sure you set the same bind phrase for both the transmitter and receiver?

[light sandal]

where would that be?

[crisp basin]

When building the firmware

[light sandal]

oh fuck

it might be different

lemme just reflash both of them

with build and flash

this is good right

and this

[crisp basin]

Unless there was a major update to the entire ELRS ecosystem, the way you flash it stays the same as we did before

Just now with the same bind phrase on both

[light sandal]

so reflash them?

or what

[crisp basin]

yes

[light sandal]

ok sorry about that

ill make sure they are the same this time

and at the end do i click download lua script or just leave it?

[crisp basin]

no need for the script this time

[light sandal]

ok

tf

god damn it did i so something wrong again this time

vitroid

ok nevermind it worked this time

alr just doing the drone now

weird do you know how to fix this? @crisp basin

this is what i got for this

[crisp basin]

did you connect it in the VCP mode?

[light sandal]

wait i thought i was doing the drone

cuz i already did the controller

[crisp basin]

Then why the hell are you flashing IFlightTX?

TX = Transmitter

[light sandal]

oh shit

am i supposed to be doing rx

[crisp basin]

... yes

[light sandal]

omg im do dumb

bro

ok sorry about that

ok lets try that again

alr great im done now

flashing the drone

ok done

what shall i do now

YO ITS WORKING

LETS GO

ok so how do i set up the different modes like manual mode and acro mode?

i also need to set up the gps signal because i got the one with the gps in it

@crisp basin

we are almost done i swear

then i can get out of your hair

vitroid please

@crisp basin

[crisp basin]

we will definitely not be doing GPS now

[light sandal]

does it take a long time

[crisp basin]

but yes, we can set up the modes

[light sandal]

ok great

[crisp basin]

generally yes

[light sandal]

alright then

all good

also i need to set up the rates

and i just want to put the ones from the simulator

if thats alright

[crisp basin]

which simulator?

[light sandal]

drl

[crisp basin]

anyway, step by step

first the modes, then other stuff

[light sandal]

ok sure

so whats first

[crisp basin]

modes

[light sandal]

ok

[crisp basin]

in the receiver tab, do you see all the switches react?

[light sandal]

switches on the controller?

[crisp basin]

yea

[light sandal]

yea i did before

but dont have it now

[crisp basin]

?

[light sandal]

like i tried it before

and the switches moved and so did the little drone

but its not now

wait nevermind its working

sorry about that

yea ok they are working

im ready to do the modes whenever you are

[crisp basin]

every switch?

[light sandal]

onyl aux 1 and 2

but those are the ones i kinda set up before

to switch the modes and to arm

[light sandal]

these ones

they work

[crisp basin]

do you want any others?

[light sandal]

is the beeper easy to setup?

just in case i can crash

i can flip the switch and it will make a noise you know

[crisp basin]

yes

I'd want to have 4 or so switches at least. Arming, modes, beeper, and flip over after crash

[light sandal]

ok sure

can we set those up quickly

so i gotta create a thing in inputs first right

like this?

@crisp basin

[crisp basin]

yeah

[light sandal]

do i need to put the source as something

or just leave it blank

like this

@crisp basin

[crisp basin]

I'm not sure, I do not have a radio with a big color screen like that, it's a little different

[light sandal]

ok

and then what switch should i put the flip over thing as

does it matter

i’ll put it like this

and then i have to put the same thing for mixes right @crisp basin

[crisp basin]

you don't need to do inputs

only mixes

[light sandal]

shit ok

ok does this look good

@crisp basin

[crisp basin]

Try to contain your excitement to ping me for every second message

[light sandal]

ok

my bad

but does it look good

[crisp basin]

I guess

you don't need to name them

[light sandal]

ok

so should we do modes next?

in betaflight

[crisp basin]

do you see the switches that you now added react?

[light sandal]

i do!

modes next?

[crisp basin]

yeah

[light sandal]

ok

these are the default settings

is that matters

[crisp basin]

I would like to think I know what modes are and aren't available as a BF dev

[light sandal]

ok sorry

just thought it might help

[crisp basin]

for once that's not something to apologize for, at least I don't have to open up the configurator

start by making ANGLE mode not on permanently

[light sandal]

ok sure

how do i make it not permeneantly?

something to do with the slider im guessing

like this or something

would this work?

[crisp basin]

yeah

[light sandal]

ok great

[crisp basin]

the small indicator dot moves as the switch does. The larger range above it is a visual indicator of when the mode will be active

[light sandal]

oh ok

so it this a good range

[crisp basin]

When the dot is under the indicator, the mode is active, otherwise not

[light sandal]

so is this active right now?

ok i saved it now

@crisp basin

[crisp basin]

yeah looks correct

[light sandal]

ok

so how do i set up manual mode?

[crisp basin]

manual?

[light sandal]

or whats it called

like the mode where you can do flips and stuff

no stabilization

[crisp basin]

acro mode?

[light sandal]

yes

how do i set that up

[crisp basin]

You don't

[light sandal]

cuz i know how to fly in that

oh

ok then

[crisp basin]

it's on automatically when no other flight mode (horizon, angle, acro trainer) is on

[light sandal]

so when i flick the switch i will be able to change from acro mode to angle mode? or do i need to do something else

so when the switch is at the top its in acro mode?

if thats true i guess we need to set up the beeper now

@crisp basin

[crisp basin]

I'm not sure which direction your switches consider to be top or bottom

but whenever the indicator dot is not under the angle mode range, it should be acro

[light sandal]

on betaflight

the lowest mode on the switch is the highest number

so this is with the switch at the bottom

yea ok i think thats good

time for the beeper i guees

and then rates

@crisp basin

[crisp basin]

did you need to ping me for a part of your monologue?

[light sandal]

i guess not

but i do need you for the beeper

[crisp basin]

what specifically do you not know?

[light sandal]

think i figured it out actually

is this it

and this for the flip over after crash

yea ok i just tested it and the beeper works

how do i set up the rates?

[crisp basin]

PID tab, Rates section

[light sandal]

ok so i want these rates

how do i put those into bf?

is it just like this?

yea ok i think thats good

do i need to change anything else of these?

like any good settings i should change

@crisp basin

[crisp basin]

Looks alright

[light sandal]

ok

do i need to change anything for the power and battery settings

also when should i land

based on battery voltage, like when is a good number to land with

if i got these batteries

[crisp basin]

Screenshot of how it's set up now

[light sandal]

this is the default one

[light sandal]

could you answer this please?

[crisp basin]

That's about right

[crisp basin]

3.5V

[light sandal]

ok great

thank you so much

is there anything else i should set up on bf?

like good settings or helpful settings or things like that

@crisp basin

[crisp basin]

That's for someone else to say, I'm off to bed

[light sandal]

ok thank you so so so much

for the help

it really means a lot to me

[light sandal]

@crisp basin i got a question. so i just took the drone for a first flight and it went alright. but the drone propellers were making a really weird sound and i dont know how to fix it

[crisp basin]

Did you get a video of it?

[light sandal]

and also at one point the drone just like stopped and crashed into the snow. is the snow bad for the drones?

yes i did

but i dont know how to get the video to my phone

[crisp basin]

generally yes if not dried

[crisp basin]

streamable

[light sandal]

is streamable an app?

if it helps i have the dji one

[crisp basin]

website

https://streamable.com/

[light sandal]

ok so how do i use it then

do i need to plug my goggles into the computer

[crisp basin]

Oh you have DVR

[light sandal]

yes

[crisp basin]

I meant like... an actual video from an actual camera from the outside of the drone (ie. you or someone else holding a phone and recording the drone)

[light sandal]

ohhh

no i dont then

just the dvr

[crisp basin]

does the DVR happen to have usable sound in it?

[light sandal]

not sure

[crisp basin]

don't your goggles have an SD card?

just use that

[light sandal]

yes i do

but how do i get it on my phone

[crisp basin]

Do I really need to tell you how to insert an SD card into a phone or a PC?

[light sandal]

yea but i have a laptop

and it has no sd port

[crisp basin]

I have a sneaking suspicion that you have a device capable of acting like an SD card reader in close proximity to yourself

[light sandal]

uh

maybe

what would that be

[crisp basin]

What about this

That's from an SD card inserted into a device connected to your computer

[light sandal]

oh so if i put the sd card from the goggles into the controller and plug it into my computer it will wokr?

[crisp basin]

Likely

[light sandal]

it says emergency mode when i plug the other sd card in

is that fine?

[crisp basin]

Likely

[light sandal]

ok im just compressing the file

its really laggy tho

the video

@crisp basin can i share it with you

so you can see why i crashed

because im not sure why and i really would like to know so it doesn't happen again

[crisp basin]

just send it here. Someone else will inevitably look at it, be that me or someone else

[light sandal]

someone is already helping me

thanks though

https://youtu.be/98hymyV358k

@zealous loom

[zealous loom]

no OSD warning?

[light sandal]

what does that mean

no i dont think so\

it just said low battery once

but it was at 3.72 volts and i thought that was fine

i mean maybe that's why?

[zealous loom]

nope that's fine

[light sandal]

yea i thought so

do you know why it went down?

[zealous loom]

do you know how to set up a blackbox?

[light sandal]

nope

but i can

[zealous loom]

without OSD it's really hard for me to see anything other than it falling

[light sandal]

oh ok

how do i set it up?

[zealous loom]

alright so blackbox

[light sandal]

betaflight first?

[zealous loom]

it's one of the tabs in betaflight yes

debugging mode to GYRO_SCALED and logging rate to 2khz

[light sandal]

ok im in betaflight

no 2k is that fine

[zealous loom]

1600 is fine

[light sandal]

ok

[zealous loom]

You should probably erase it and try to replicate the issue, I assume it's full and probably doesn't contain the offending flight

[light sandal]

erase what?

just fly again

[zealous loom]

the data in the box

[light sandal]

and see what happens

oh

[zealous loom]

There should be a button to do so

do you see it

[light sandal]

do i click erase flash

and the bottom

sry its kinda cut off

[zealous loom]

oh its not full wait no okay

[light sandal]

ok

[zealous loom]

you don't need to erase it... actually, have you never erased it before?

[light sandal]

on

no

i havent

that was my first flight lol when it crash

crashed

[zealous loom]

Okay, do you see a button that says multimedia something something

[light sandal]

and the props sounded weird

[zealous loom]

We're gonna grab this file

[light sandal]

i see this

unless its in another tab

[zealous loom]

Yeah that bottom button

My fault

[light sandal]

do i press it

[zealous loom]

mass storage one

Yeah it turns it into a USB stick so you can pull files oht

Press it

[light sandal]

ok

do i connect again?

or what

[zealous loom]

it should be in your file explorer

a new drive

[light sandal]

yea ok

[zealous loom]

also did you save the blackbox settings

[light sandal]

i see it

yes

this is what i got

[zealous loom]

just give me the all file

send it here i'll find the flight

[light sandal]

like send all of the

them

[zealous loom]

no ust the bottom one

[light sandal]

welp

[zealous loom]

its all of them compacted into one f- ok

[light sandal]

does that work

hopefully it does lol

[zealous loom]

i'm gonna look

[light sandal]

alr take ur tiem

time

[zealous loom]

one billion flgiths

is the crash the most recent one

[light sandal]

yes

[zealous loom]

ok

[light sandal]

shoudl also be the longeast flight

the ones i was just testing to make sure i could record

[zealous loom]

yeah it is

i see a tiny bit of oscillation in general but i dont think its a part of the issue

do you hear the weird sound when hovering? do you think you could send a hover test video?

with good mic quality?

[light sandal]

yea sure

give me like 10 mins

[zealous loom]

ok it looks like a desync, the esc is trying to rotate motor 3 without any luck

i'm actually a bit suspicious about all this oscillating motor activity so I'm gonna look at other stuff

i've received news that it also might not be a desync, so we're just gonna look at any issues with motor 3, maybe that weird noise

[light sandal]

ok i just tested it

and it sounded perfectly fine

[zealous loom]

bruh

[light sandal]

but

one thing

it wasn't binding with the goggles

not sure why

like the video wasnt

[zealous loom]

see i fly analog can't help you there rn

so the props are on tight right? You can't spin them separately from the motor at all?

and the motor spins smoothly if you flick the prop a few times right?

[light sandal]

yea it does

that so weird

i just put the other sets of props on

[zealous loom]

alright i think you'll just have to fly it for now

erase the blackbox since we already have all the logs

I don't get it, i can't even see noise

your motors are really noisy but the gyro is clean which is strange

[light sandal]

ok thank you so much

just one last questio

how worried should i be about crashing in snow?

[zealous loom]

what quad is this?

honestly try not to if you haven't waterproofed it because warm electronics melt snow into water

and water is, you know

[light sandal]

nazgul evoque

f5

with dji 03

[zealous loom]

We're gonna have you change some ESC settings if it happens again, motor timing to 23 deg and lowered rampup power

[light sandal]

should i just do that now

[zealous loom]

you can

[light sandal]

ok lets do it

lemme get the drone

[zealous loom]

but i need to use the washroom

[light sandal]

alr

[light sandal]

@zealous loom i got a questio

n

since i have the dji 03 air unit and stuff

how do i get the pictures from the goggles to my phone?

is there an easy way to do it?

[zealous loom]

i fly analog

[royal garden]

Use the Goggles usb-c to Usb phone and open the DJI Fly app

[light sandal]

hey could someone help me

my controller is being so annoying

it keeps saying the throttle isn't centered when it is

@zealous loom could you help

[zealous loom]

sup bro

could you recalibrate very gently for me

make sure that as soon as your throttle stick hits the bottom you're not applying pressure

[light sandal]

yea so

neither of the sliders things at the middle top work onw

now

@zealous loom still doesnt do it

still says its not centered

hello

you there

does this need to have anything?

@zealous loom you there

[zealous loom]

hello

what's happened here

did you calibrate those top sliders too?

Throttle is still not centered?!

Hmmm, I don't quite remember and don't have my radio on me, what are the options on those dropdowns?

[light sandal]

like anything

i have no clue whats happening

[zealous loom]

If you go on the channel monitor, can you see anything moving?

[light sandal]

where is that?

[zealous loom]

Homepage, then hit the telem button I think

[light sandal]

idk where it is

not in telemetry

[zealous loom]

there are 4 buttons on the left

[light sandal]

wait this

[zealous loom]

surely one of them says what you want

[light sandal]

cuz this one moves when i do it

[zealous loom]

oh, great no that works too

[light sandal]

yea all of them move

[zealous loom]

Can you figure out which one represents your throttle

And what the number is when the throttle is all the way down

maybe the mode is wrong? How did this happen

(To test this, if you get the throttle warning again, try moving the other stick all the way down and see if it goes away)

[light sandal]

ch2 is throttle

[light sandal]

OH WAIT THATS IT

UR A GENIUS

THEYRE JUST SWITCHED OR SOMETHING

[zealous loom]

ok

so i completely forgot where this setting is

but if you go to system settings and check every tab and scroll all the way down, there should be a dropdown that says Mode 1 in one of them

If your throttle stick is on the left, change that setting to Mode 2

then try

[light sandal]

this?

or maybe this?

[zealous loom]

uhh

this one

first pic

[light sandal]

alr i changed it to that

should i restart and see if its fixed?

well its still not working

[zealous loom]

hmm

when you calibrate and move all the sticks, does the little on screen diagram reflect what youre doing?

[light sandal]

well it did

but now throttle only goes on the top half

when i go the full way

[zealous loom]

what

[light sandal]

yea

only goes in top half

[zealous loom]

do the calibration again, remember to move the stick all the way from the bottom to the top, and make sure to center the stick when it tells you to

same with all the sliders and the potentiometers

and the 6-position

[light sandal]

ok its doing it now

except for the knobs

and the sliders

[zealous loom]

doing what

brother i am not sitting there beside you you have to be pretty descriptive

is the throttle working at least

[light sandal]

sorry sorry

yes the throttle is working

just the sliders only go in the top half and the middle position is 3/4 on the screen

but the knobs don't respond at all on the screen

this is the sliders at the halfway points

[zealous loom]

did you center the knobs and throttles before calibration

[light sandal]

center as in the middle right

[zealous loom]

yes, you can feel the little detent

[light sandal]

one sec

lemme check

well the sliders work now

but not the knobs

they straight up dont respond

[zealous loom]

hum

[zealous loom]

Could you get back to this page

you see where it says Pots

S1 and S2 are the knobs

See how their dropdown is None? Change it to Potentiometer

@light sandal

[light sandal]

ok

done

[zealous loom]

calibrate one more time

[light sandal]

ok thats good

whats next then

[zealous loom]

do they work

the knobs

[light sandal]

yes

its all good now

[zealous loom]

job done then?

[light sandal]

wait lemme try

[light sandal]

@zealous loom i got a different problem now

on the sim my rates for the 3 axis are all the same but the roll axis is super sensitive

like i barely move it to the side and it already shows that its at the end

[zealous loom]

calibrate on the sim

I know I've made you calibrate a lot but I'm serious

[light sandal]

now the throttle is switched

and i didnt do anything

well i fixed the throttle

but now all three axis are really sensitive

[light sandal]

@zealous loom its not even connected to the drone now

doesnt do anything when i arm or activate the beeper.

im really sorry but can you please help me fix it

@crisp basin could you help?

[zealous loom]

bro what

how do you manage

[light sandal]

dude i have no idea

but it doesnt bind to drone now

doesnt do anything when i use the beeper

[zealous loom]

you didn't calibrate on the radio's side, right?

[light sandal]

its so weird cuz i didnt do anything

[light sandal]

not since yesterday

[zealous loom]

how does this happen

[light sandal]

but i would prefer to fix the drone connecting

before the sim

[zealous loom]

if you didnt do anything I have literally no idea

[light sandal]

cuz i think it the controller will work well with the drone when i get it connected

[zealous loom]

Just redo the entire bind procedure

[light sandal]

well could we like re-bind it

well whats the first step?

[zealous loom]

no clue, look it up for whatever protocol you're running

[light sandal]

e;rs

elrs

[zealous loom]

then it shouldn't have unbound ?? !

[light sandal]

thats what im saying

so what do i do

[crisp basin]

Sorry, just about to go sleep

[light sandal]

@zealous loom are you going to help or no?

[zealous loom]

gimme 2 minutes

i really think you can do this alone but let's see what you need help with

[light sandal]

yea i wish i could

[zealous loom]

ok. first off how do you know it's unbound

[light sandal]

no i dont

[zealous loom]

what happens when you arm

[light sandal]

nothing

doesn’t respond at all

same with the beeper

[zealous loom]

and on the video feed, what is there?

in betaflight, do you see channel movement?

are there warnings in the video feed?

do you see stick movement in betaflight?

Is your battery fully charged?

Are you getting all beeps on startup?

[zealous loom]

your bluetooth device is ready to pair

[light sandal]

i’m so sorry can we continue this tomorrow