all in title, let us play more than 1 character / pc at a time please. It is not affordable to buy a new pc to play multiple account
#Bring back multi client
bright marsh
As a new player, it feels mandatory to have a priest to level until you have the level to find a xp party, allowing multi-client will permit to remove this feeling and play something else than a priest. It was rough without a priest and i feel that an exca / priest buff are mandatory to play
cobalt trellis
As a new player, it feels mandatory to have a priest to level until you have the...
Why does it fell mandatory to have a priest? It’s not hard to exp without? Obviously it’s easier, but that’s just comfort
scenic yoke
allowing multiclient feels bad but i think its even worse that they allow some players to have methods to bypass it using 2 computers/laptops because they get insane advantage towards others that don't do/are not allowed to do it(because can't afford a extra pc/notebook or whatever)
bright marsh
like i'm not talking about unlimited multi account but just 2 char / pc so we can atleast play a priest/gs with a damage character
toxic saddle
like i'm not talking about unlimited multi account but just 2 char / pc so we ca...
then instead of multi account, they could either add a way to make your other characters on your account buff your current character, like with portable items, unlimited uses or something,
bright marsh
yes and a way to moove items between character without having to pay a lot for an account bank
toxic saddle
i mean, cheapest one is between 7 million - 10 million, until you reach ed4 that could be expensive
bright marsh
can't afford to put 7kk every week for that, specially when we are low levels it is impossible
compact thorn
@bright marsh Here's another way to look it at it...multiclient is just a tool, multiclient isn't the problem, it's the players that misuse that are the problem. Some players use it to bully/griefplay other players in warzones, and some create a " 3-4man party" with one account while never inviting anyone else to party unless you pay them a certain amount. There seems to be a forgotten rule that if there are other players wanting to lvl in that same spot...we must leave enough behind for them too. Overall...it looks like most players misuse based on the amount of negative comments about it. It looks like it causes more sorrow than joy in the long run, so that's why something was done about it.
bright marsh
<@194543374533918720> Here's another way to look it at it...multiclient is just ...
that's why i was talking about 2 char / pc max and not unlimited char per pc so still have a restriction about it but not this extreme, so it allow player to atleast have a support character like gs / priest and a damage one
compact thorn
I understand your intentions, but the problem is that they can't limit it to that. They can't tell if you're playing 2 characters or if there's 2 people in your home playing. You could be playing 4 characters for example and just lie that you have mutiple people in your home.
bright marsh
No but you can control the number of instance starting with Easy anti cheat. and limit it at 2 only of active instance of florensia, it's not a limited ip access i am talking, but literally just augment the instance of the game in eac by 1
compact thorn
Are you sure that's possible? I'm not tech savy myself, but even if they could do that...some players will still misuse it. Apparently it was so bad that it got enough attention to be blocked.
bright marsh
@compact thorn > Yes it is possible, and atleast it will reduce the bridge between players using multiple pc to take a big advantage and basic player with only one pc
@cobalt trellis i can't aoe with a character without priest buff so bit inconvenient to xp until you have the level to find xp party, atleast that's my feeling of the game in low level.
compact thorn
Where do you aoe and what class are you?
bright marsh
Where do you aoe and what class are you?
i changed my class to priest because of that at ~ level 40 with a MK i think that's the name of the class because it felt unplayable without being a priest
compact thorn
As a priest if you want to aoe...you have to do monsters few lvls lower than you. If you're unable to do that...you must consider the possibility that you're either not building your priest right or you're not mobbing with the right strategy.
bright marsh
Yeah but as a MK it was impossible for me to aoe without priest buff, that's what i'm saying. I had to play a priest to feel comfortable in my leveling and abord aoe easily where other class has to 1to1 monster because they are too squishy
compact thorn
MK are not meant to aoe. aoeing isn't always faster for lvling even though it may feel like it most of the time. For an MK at higher lvls...1 vs 1 is faster for them, but you must have the patience to get there first.
cobalt trellis
<@337067372265603072> > Yes it is possible, and atleast it will reduce the bridg...
Why can’t you? Tbh it just sounds like a skill issue
bright marsh
Why can’t you? Tbh it just sounds like a skill issue
Try to level a new character without asking a single time for priest buff, i'm watching, instead of being aggressive and haughty with new player 🙂
cobalt trellis
I did, that’s how people normally exp? 
bright marsh
There is like 500 message a day in the shout channel from low level player asking priest buff to xp but yes, that's how people normally exp ^^.
compact thorn
That's true, but that's just "comfort", you don't actually "need" it. Back then priest buffs were not as powerful as it is now. Most of us had to lvl without it.
cobalt trellis
There is like 500 message a day in the shout channel from low level player askin...
Because it’s obviously easier
bright marsh
How it is a bad thing to allow players to run two instance of the game one being a support one and the other being a damage one for example ? Or just to have a stock character or something ? Because it is the point of this thread actually, and the priest buff was one of the point i take as an example and it is may be a bad example but it was a feeling i had that if i can run two instance i'll probably have an exca and a priest to play both
compact thorn
Because for the third time..because "some players misuse it". I'm sure you have good intentions with it, but most don't. It caused more grief than joy in the long run.
bright marsh
How can you misuse 2 character ? Almost every player i know have multiple pc to bypass this restriction, it feels like an useless one tho
compact thorn
Lawless Zones, creating parties and not inviting other players to keep all mobs for themselves, endless afk boss farming when players need for quest.
cobalt trellis
How it is a bad thing to allow players to run two instance of the game one being...
Not everyone would use it that way, that’s why it’s not working anymore
bright marsh
Lawless Zones, creating parties and not inviting other players to keep all mobs ...
It is still the case, with example of the zoldyck guild where every hour there is multiple people complaining about them in shout where one member of them do that permanently. I don't get why this restriction block them doing that,
If they want to do it, it cost only used notebook that cost nothing to do it, a restriction on the machine is not necessary
cobalt trellis
Well whatever it won’t come back in this sense. They might get a solution for trading with your own chars though
compact thorn
Don't underestimate what 2 characters can do xd. Multiclient will only just amplify the current suffering.
bright marsh
It is not like the game is populated enough to always find people to play with. But okay, if it seems necessary to do that to prevent some abuse, i take it but seems that the abuse is still here even with it so...
tight shale
I just read some BS.
The cliff between Players with 1 PC and those with more the 1 PC will get bigger. Bcs if you allow EAC to have 2 Instances of Florensia, then they are just gonna log 4 Characters instead of 2 
Just give it up. Multi aint coming back and thats a good thing. Only bcs you dont want to level without being stacked the F up with Buffs, doesnt mean it will be healthy for PvP/Endgame.
If you ever had to play against Full Con Glads/Snipers that are only Auto Attacking, or a Shaman that just runs around to hit you with a x2 so they can easily use x2 into Sniping. OR a FS Priest that is on Follow and only becomes active once someone dies to revive them, then you would know why bringing back Multi is gonna be a really bad decision. If you never had to play againet that, you can consider yourself lucky that you didnt have to experience this toxic meta.
The majority leveled without needing Buffs constantly. Thats a fact. So if you cant play without them, then im 100% with Ura here, that sounds like a Skill Issue on your part
wraith shale
if you cant play your character without priest buffs and wings, maybe you should think about a new game
thorn cloak
Only point for priest buffs while leveling is to be able to solo some lower level bosses for quest, instead of finding a person to travel to the boss themselves.
quick orbit
Why does it fell mandatory to have a priest? It’s not hard to exp without? Obvio...
It’s called mmorpg for a reason, you need a healer to regen and a tank to defend you, specialization with classes comes next with more options too etc… a priest without a tank and some good dps can’t really do something too
cobalt trellis
It’s called mmorpg for a reason, you need a healer to regen and a tank to defend...
Yeah, but it’s not your job to do everything yourself. You can still progress alone (till specific areas)
quick orbit
Yeah, but it’s not your job to do everything yourself. You can still progress al...
Yes you’re right. Especially at the beginning until lvl 75/80 I guess
Every class could aoe full retis or minnestis or nieg by himself with dex build or non dex build like mercenary and then when the PvE gets tough you’ll need party play, that’s my take on that no offense haha
fickle raven
Hello there, appreciate the feedback!
At the moment and ever since Giiku Games took over Florensia development, our vision is to actually enhance the game and balance it enough so that everyone can enjoy it without having to use multiclient. So no, it won't be re-enabled / bumped anytime soon.
As for multiple devices, we simply can't restrict connections per IP as it would lead to a bunch of false positives, and it's nowhere near as convenient as multi-instances on a single device.