Problem merging a mod and elden ring randomizer | ?ServerName? | Page 1

thorn rover Mar 15, 2026, 8:51 AM

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Ok so basically, i tried yesterday to merge them and gpt some help here, it worked completely fine.
Then, when i loaded the game back after quitting, it just didn't work.
I have 2 versions of the mod, one more recent, and using that one won't even let me get to the title screen.
The other one could let me play until i get the flasks, where i would just crash after going past the golden tree at the start.
I've been trying things for 4 hours straight and don't know what i could do, i would appreciate some help haha

pine lake Mar 15, 2026, 8:52 AM

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probably better to start from scratch tbh

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clearly something at some point broke things

thorn rover Mar 15, 2026, 8:52 AM

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what would that mean?

pine lake Mar 15, 2026, 8:52 AM

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first of all, does the normal game work?

thorn rover Mar 15, 2026, 8:53 AM

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i uninstall everything and do it again? i think i already did that and it wouldn't work either..

thorn rover Mar 15, 2026, 8:53 AM

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pine lake first of all, does the normal game work?

yup

pine lake Mar 15, 2026, 8:54 AM

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ok, probably don't need to reinstall game then

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I would still get a fresh copy of randomizer

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and then just run that

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no merged mods yet

thorn rover Mar 15, 2026, 8:54 AM

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oh wait i got this, guess it doesn't now lol

pine lake Mar 15, 2026, 8:54 AM

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make sure that works before messing with anything else

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dinput8.dll is usually elden mod loader

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which can cause conflicts with other things

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I would get rid of it

thorn rover Mar 15, 2026, 8:55 AM

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pine lake I would still get a fresh copy of randomizer

the rando somehow remembers the settings i used even when i uninstall it lol, i found it weird at first

pine lake Mar 15, 2026, 8:55 AM

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generally you want to load dll mods with modengine anyway

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settings are probably stored elsewhere

thorn rover Mar 15, 2026, 8:56 AM

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well i think i sent you the mod, comes with a modengine pre installed but idk much about it so i'll try doing what you say

pine lake Mar 15, 2026, 8:57 AM

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ah yeah it was the one I suggested adding through the toml

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so that worked, but then later it didn't?

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and you're absolutely sure you didn't change anything?

thorn rover Mar 15, 2026, 8:58 AM

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pine lake so that worked, but then later it didn't?

yeah

thorn rover Mar 15, 2026, 8:58 AM

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pine lake and you're absolutely sure you didn't change anything?

i think i changed the mod version or something

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base game is working fine without dinput8.dll

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i reinstalled the rando and it works fine alone

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now i'm lost again, i don't wanna mess it up lol

pine lake Mar 15, 2026, 9:11 AM

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just add the mod's toml file with the merge other mod option and see if that works

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re-randomizing before launching game

thorn rover Mar 15, 2026, 9:12 AM

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from the mod alone? or from where i extracted it (the game directory) ? or maybe it doesn't matter

pine lake Mar 15, 2026, 9:12 AM

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hmm

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thinking how that works actually

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because the toml references 2 dlls, but with relative paths

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so not entirely sure how randomizer would know where to find them... maybe just based on the location of the toml itself I guess

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I've never merged mods with the toml before

thorn rover Mar 15, 2026, 9:14 AM

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oof

pine lake Mar 15, 2026, 9:14 AM

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thorn rover from the mod alone? or from where i extracted it (the game directory) ? or maybe...

it's best not to place stuff in the game folder

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but it shouldn't matter

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does need to be extracted though, yes

thorn rover Mar 15, 2026, 9:15 AM

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pine lake it's best not to place stuff in the game folder

didn't know, the modder said to extract it here in the installation help

pine lake Mar 15, 2026, 9:15 AM

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some modders don't know what they're talking about fatdog

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anyway it's fine, it's more for organization purposes

thorn rover Mar 15, 2026, 9:15 AM

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pine lake some modders don't know what they're talking about <:fatdog:694968394348363787>

lol

pine lake Mar 15, 2026, 9:16 AM

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more practical to keep the install folder clean, but whatever

thorn rover Mar 15, 2026, 9:16 AM

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i chose the toml from the game folder and run with set seed

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i'm waiting now ig

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the easier thing would be for someone to try on his side and see if things work, but idk man i don't wanna ask that to someone lol

pine lake Mar 15, 2026, 9:17 AM

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I am doing that actually

thorn rover Mar 15, 2026, 9:17 AM

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i'm launching the game

thorn rover Mar 15, 2026, 9:17 AM

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pine lake I am doing that actually

oh

pine lake Mar 15, 2026, 9:17 AM

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but I only have the version you shared with me

thorn rover Mar 15, 2026, 9:17 AM

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did it work for you?

pine lake Mar 15, 2026, 9:17 AM

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idk about any other versions

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haven't tried yet

thorn rover Mar 15, 2026, 9:17 AM

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pine lake idk about any other versions

i'll link it to you in a minute

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yeah the title screen isn't appearing

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black screen

pine lake Mar 15, 2026, 9:20 AM

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yeah doesn't work here either

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I don't think this mod is compatible with randomizer then

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looking at the files, it has modified sound files, that means the mod is using a custom version of modengine2 that supports sound modding

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randomizer does not use that version

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afaik

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there may be a workaround, let me check

thorn rover Mar 15, 2026, 9:22 AM

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i thought of it but the fact that it worked yesterday when you helped me and when i launched the game again is making it weird

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the other version is too big to be sent here i think

pine lake Mar 15, 2026, 9:22 AM

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you sure it worked? like was it actually randomized?

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maybe the merge didn't actually work

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considering this one already doesn't work for me, I don't need the other version

thorn rover Mar 15, 2026, 9:23 AM

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pine lake you sure it worked? like was it actually randomized?

i got 2 makars instead of the tree sentinel and other enemies were randomized

pine lake Mar 15, 2026, 9:23 AM

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ok, and the functions of the playable bosses mod also worked?

thorn rover Mar 15, 2026, 9:24 AM

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pine lake ok, and the functions of the playable bosses mod also worked?

yup

pine lake Mar 15, 2026, 9:24 AM

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weird

thorn rover Mar 15, 2026, 9:24 AM

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exactly

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but i think (not sure) that i was using the other version cause it didn' have the latest updates with some new bosses, so i left, merged with the newest one and then it didn't work

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and given that the 2 mods work fine without one another, idk what is messing up

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at first i thought it had something to do with the rando file but i'm not a modding pro so i wouldn't know if something would be weird

pine lake Mar 15, 2026, 9:27 AM

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testing the possible workaround but idk how this playable bosses mod works lol

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to tell if it's working at all

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I can see a boss resurrection option at the grace at least

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so it's obv doing somehting

thorn rover Mar 15, 2026, 9:28 AM

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pine lake to tell if it's working at all

it's craftable things when you get the crafting kit

pine lake Mar 15, 2026, 9:28 AM

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nvm I think it breaks the moment I add the rando-generated regulation.bin

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it only worked the first time because I forgot to add it

thorn rover Mar 15, 2026, 9:28 AM

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so you either need to get to kalé or get one in the class select

thorn rover Mar 15, 2026, 9:28 AM

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pine lake it only worked the first time because I forgot to add it

i don't get it lol

pine lake Mar 15, 2026, 9:29 AM

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basically means it's not compatible

thorn rover Mar 15, 2026, 9:29 AM

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oh ok

pine lake Mar 15, 2026, 9:29 AM

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most of the randomization is done in the regulation.bin

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if it doesn't work with it... yeah nothing to do

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a lot of things would be broken without it

thorn rover Mar 15, 2026, 9:29 AM

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i still don't get how it worked then didn't lmao

pine lake Mar 15, 2026, 9:29 AM

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enemy randomization would probably mostly still work

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cause that's done on the map files mostly

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but idk

thorn rover Mar 15, 2026, 9:30 AM

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that's so weird

pine lake Mar 15, 2026, 9:31 AM

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yeah, no idea

thorn rover Mar 15, 2026, 9:32 AM

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wait

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i'm trying with the older version

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it's not crashing

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for now

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i got to kale

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it works when i close the game!

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i don't get it but hey it works

pine lake Mar 15, 2026, 9:36 AM

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lol

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well then you're already ahead of me

thorn rover Mar 15, 2026, 9:36 AM

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I thought the seed vould be a problem too but idk how the rando works

pine lake Mar 15, 2026, 9:36 AM

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wouldn't cause this kind of problem I think

thorn rover Mar 15, 2026, 9:36 AM

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Now idk if changing rando settings would make something crash

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I don't wanna get back into all this lol

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Gause i forgot to add double enemies

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But i'll see when i get home

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Thanks a lot for your time !

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I'll update here if it starts messing up again

thorn rover Mar 15, 2026, 9:38 AM

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pine lake looking at the files, it has modified sound files, that means the mod is using a...

I think it has something to do with this

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Cause the older version only has bosses in elden ring

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So i'd guess no new sound files

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And the latest has other ones

pine lake Mar 15, 2026, 9:39 AM

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maybe, I don't know enough about the topic to say

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