[ER] not general anymore hks questions

[rain anchor]

its 7 i guessed

so the param stuff works but it still doesnt work

this is my code:

ESD triggers 220

i will add a turn off too but first i want to get it work with enabling

[visual wadi]

Value type of what

Yeah the enableSorcery or enableIncantation need to be turned on

And if you see something like 0x58[4] then it means it's a bit and the offset is 4

[rain anchor]

so the param side works

but the hks doesnt

[visual wadi]

did you verify that the flag is true?

[rain anchor]

i mean it should be

because the params get set

the only problem would be that act() doesnt work

ill check with debug tool

so the flag works fine

its on when it should be

do i need to do smth with the special motion category or the tae?

[visual wadi]

No this should be enough

[visual wadi]

Why is GetEventFlag red here

[rain anchor]

im stupid

it wasnt my mods c0000.hks

it works now

sometimes my brain doesnt woek

[outer latch]

Those work becuase every weapon category has its own roar moeveset in its tae (eg. a26 tae of collosal swords contains barbaric roar, warcry movesets in that tae itself). If you want to modify a weapons heavy attacks after an ash of war buff, you either put that moveset in all taes (obviously unfeasible) or put it in tae of ash of war, but the weapons spedial motion category needs to be the AOW too. Please bro, if it wouldnt be too much trouble could you write a hks function (using script exposer functions) for changing a weapons special motion category if it has a particular speffect.

*By "those" I mean barbaric roar and warcry

Yes, obviously.Let me find the screenshots

@visual wadi @rain anchor I know its correct because it works if I set a weapons special motion category to 663

[rain anchor]

what does this line do?

if env(GetSpEffectID, effect) == TRUE then

if i understood correctly it checks if the player has the effect?

[visual wadi]

Ah that stinks

But no I wont go making functions on demand for others

[outer latch]

Okay what would be the pointer/offset args for this (all the bracketed parts) act(SetParamValue, PARAM_EquipParamWeapon, spAtkcategory,<offset>,<value type>, <value>, <bitOffset>)

[visual wadi]

Smithbox can tell you the offset if you turn in the element in the param editor

[rain anchor]

How can i get if the player has a speffect

[visual wadi]

Is it being run on the player hks

If yes, there's a env for it from vanilla

env(GetSpEffectID if my memory serves me right

[rain anchor]

I don't think it works for me

[visual wadi]

It returns TRUE and FALSE

[rain anchor]

this is my code its inside my weapon refresh:

[visual wadi]

Did you verify that GetSpEffectID was the right one? Including capitals

[rain anchor]

yes i looked into the c0000.hks

[rain anchor]

i have some really weird issues atm

the speffect stuff is weird

i duped all the grease speffect and gave them new ids

now i call them through hks

the problem is that they dont apply

or dont show idk

only some work

this is the code

basically what im doing is i set the speffect after the weapon refresh bc it would autmatically remove itself otherwise

the log returnse the right values

only 175 worked

that are my rows

idk what is wrong

i tried different things but nothing seems to work

also the refresh just doesnt trigger sometimes

the refresh gets called in func update

ignore this:

function ChangeModelId()
    Getmodelid()
    SetParamValue(PARAM.EquipParamWeapon.EQUIP_MODEL_ID, rightwepid, modelid)
end

now none work

it works only sometimes

the greases

its really confusing

@visual wadi could you maybe take a look at the code?
i would really appreciate it

[smoky phoenix]

in my experience you want to use a 'buffer effect' for something that is supposed to keep existing after the conditions are no longer met
for me it seems that when the conditions to trigger a speffect are no longer appropriate to trigger the effect, some effects will be canceled
if you use a blank speffect that chains to the speffect you want then it will not clear it, but there may be a better solution

[rain anchor]

the speffects are -1 duration

and why would it get cleared?

[visual wadi]

Use logs to find out what your code is doing to find out why

[rain anchor]

so you think adding extra effects which trigger the effects will fix it?

[visual wadi]

Place logs in places where things are cleared

See which place is clearing stuff

[rain anchor]

i did and nothing unusual

nothing gets cleared

[smoky phoenix]

if you use hks to trigger the blank effect to chain to your speffect it will no longer clear your weapon buffs when the conditions are not met

[rain anchor]

ok

ill try

[smoky phoenix]

I do not know why, but in hks speffects triggered by hks conditions can be cleared by hks when the conditions are no longer met, I think it is kinda like in animations, how some speffect events will end the speffect they invoke when the event is over, I had to do the same thing to get my weapon buff visuals to work without automatically clearing themselves

[rain anchor]

still doesnt work

[smoky phoenix]

than I am sorry I misunderstood

[rain anchor]

it did set the new speffect which chains the grease

[smoky phoenix]

if the buffs are not applying in the first place that is a different issue

[rain anchor]

i mean sometimes it is appliying

thats the weird part

like one in 30 times

[smoky phoenix]

21950194 is one of the ids right?

hks has a limit on the size of values it can use, I think 9999999 is the max value

[rain anchor]

no

its a chained one

[smoky phoenix]

can you give me an example of an speffect id you are trying to call in hks?

[rain anchor]

from 21950195 - 21950207

but 21950167 works for SetParamValue

[smoky phoenix]

I believe you are a full digit over the limit, try reducing them

[rain anchor]

ok

[smoky phoenix]

that would definitely cause weird inconsistencies in my experience

anything 9999999 and under should be good

[visual wadi]

Passing eventflags as strings means you shouldnt have the float limit

[rain anchor]

i passed speffects and flags as strings

[visual wadi]

But yeah, too high spEffect Ids will break HKS

[rain anchor]

weird it seems to work now

but what could be the problem with the refresh function not working everytime?

its a bit annoying and something i would want to fix for the release of the mod

it basically checks if the CMSG of the bonfire leave anim is active if it is it sets the var animwasactive to 1
then if the cmsg is false and animwasactive is 1 then it does the refresh

which means it changes the equipped weapon slot to another one and back

[rain anchor]

@visual wadi is it possible to import modules like dkjson?

[rain anchor]

or anything i can use to write and read files

the hks guide says its possible with json but if i do require(json) or require(script_dir .. "json.lua") (on a local file) the player keeps dying

tbh no clue how to write dying

[rain anchor]

also how can you open files in hks

the json stuff works

i only need to open files

but io doesnt seem to work

[rain anchor]

i think i got it to work

turns out that one local instead of global broke everything

[rain anchor]

its getting painfull

now my costum hks doest get called anymore

also none of your modules get called

i can send both my c0000 and my code hks if you want

its very much

i would appreciate if you take a look

nvm it loads but i can send you the code that causes it to not load

nvm i got it

after 5 hours of debugging

[visual wadi]

Sometimes it do be like that

[rain anchor]

@visual wadi what are the actual pointers to the params rows and fields?
Bc i want to try if i can maybe code an extern programm which can modify those on runtime

[rain anchor]

so GAME_BASE is 0x7FF78AEB0000 in your modules

is that the base address of the values?

then what is PARAM and EquipParamWeapon

[rain anchor]

i found this in CE

i guess these are the offsets

[visual wadi]

That goes deeper into the Reversing territory than I am familiar with. You are going to want to use something called a AOB for the actual location for the params, and then use offsets from there. I recommend looking through #elden-ring-reverse-engineering.

[rain anchor]

ok

so its difficult to find those values?

[visual wadi]

Again, not my territory anymore. You're asking the wrong person

[rain anchor]

ok i believed that you may know that bc i thought that hks uses these offsets all the time

[rain anchor]

@visual wadi how do i use this:
EQUIP_MAGIC_DATA = { -- 0x530
MAGIC_SLOT = function(slot)
return { _CHR_INS_BASE, SIGNED_INT, 0x580, 0x530, 0x10 + ((slot - 1) * 8) }
end,
SELECTED_MAGIC_SLOT_INDEX = { _CHR_INS_BASE, SIGNED_INT, 0x580, 0x530, 0x80 },
},

to get every possible slot

also did you find pointers for the talisman slots?

[visual wadi]

They are probably in ChrArm, I would look at a CE table if I were you

[visual wadi]

A for loop to a max of I believe 14

[rain anchor]

i dont know how i can get those offsets into the hks

what is the max magic slot number

this is tali 1

wrong one

this is the right one

in ChrAsm

[visual wadi]

Ah yeh, ChrAsm can be a fickle one

[rain anchor]

so how can i get it into hks

bc those pointers really confuse me

[visual wadi]

TALISMAN_1 = { _CHR_INS_BASE, BIG_SIGNED_INT, 0x580, 0x2B0 + 0x70 + 0x08 + (0x3DC - 0x328) },```

[rain anchor]

ok

and 2 is TALISMAN_1 = { _CHR_INS_BASE, BIG_SIGNED_INT, 0x580, 0x2B0 + 0x70 + 0x08 + (3E0- 0x328) },

[visual wadi]

If Talisman 2 is 0x3E0 then yes

[rain anchor]

ok thanks

[rain anchor]

and that?

is it somewhere in the params?

it gotta be like 20

[visual wadi]

That's a constant in the game

[rain anchor]

ik but idk the number

[visual wadi]

Then google it

[rain anchor]

ok

12

thanks for all your help

what happens when you set tali4 if you dont have the last slot?

[rain anchor]

@visual wadi is this the correct way of getting pointers?
GetPointerValue(CHR_INS_BASE.PLAYER_GAME_DATA.VIGOR)

my issue is that it stops right before the setparams

GetParams

small w instead of W

do you know why setting the righthandweapon pointer doesnt change the weapon?

only the model

[rain anchor]

and why this retuns a really high number when its -1

i mean big signed int should also work for negatives right?

like its supposed to be a club with no talis

the weapon itself works

but the icon and damage and reqs dont update in the menu

as well as the talis speffects and slots

so the issue i have is that the stuff doesnt get refreshed

[visual wadi]

No clue

[rain anchor]

I will find out once i figured out how to refresh all the different things

[visual wadi]

Yes

[visual wadi]

Do you want the weapon in the inventory to also be changed into the thing you are changing it into?

[rain anchor]

Yes

Thats why im changing pointers

Im doing a mod which lets you save builds

And load

[visual wadi]

It's a a lot more complex thing to change the item in the invetory with pointers

Luckily for you, I wrote it two weeks ago

[rain anchor]

Great could you share the code with me

[visual wadi]

But it will require a lot of different puzzle pieces

[rain anchor]

Ok

[visual wadi]

I will send it later tonight or tomorrow

[rain anchor]

But is it able to replace the items talismans magic etc

[visual wadi]

It's currently only build to support weapon changing

[rain anchor]

Ok

[visual wadi]

But theoretically could be made to yes

[rain anchor]

But could i do the other things with the same logic?

Like changing your funcs

[visual wadi]

Yes, but I'm unsure if you have all the knowledge required to do so

[rain anchor]

Ill see

[visual wadi]

I was initially making it so it could change other item types too

But it became very complex real fast and it was unnecessary for what I needed it for

[rain anchor]

I've done a lot with hks the last few weeks my mod is about to get released

This stuff is for another mod

[visual wadi]

Cool

[rain anchor]

Wdym by complex like brain destroying complex

[visual wadi]

Nah nothing like thag

But it would have probably cost me another few hours to figure things out

[rain anchor]

Ok

What has to be changed for the stuff to work?

Are there pointers for stuff like that

[visual wadi]

Its more of the same pointers

Wait, I think within the same category wasn't a problem

The issue was category swapping

I should be able to do some easy tweaks to make it work for other cateogies

[visual wadi]

Okay pretty sure it's going to be quite easy to do, but will be bulky to do so

You can modify StoreTrickWeaponInInv from the Weapons file so it handles a different aspect of GaItemHandles, you will need to call CycleGetInventoryItems(GAME_BASE.GAME_DATA_MAN.PLAYER_GAME_INFO.STORAGE_INVENTORY) at a rate of your chosing. I have it set to every 2 frames inside my update function. You're also going to need to call InventoryManagerInit() ONCE at like, 100 frames after HKS is initialized, this will still be in the loading screen. If you do it outside of the loading screen or more than once, prepare for lag

[rain anchor]

Thanks

[rain anchor]

@visual wadi i think i have a problem with my mod how exactly does this work

i tested it on another pc and it didnt load the modules

like no module at all

[visual wadi]

Where did you place the module? Also I thought I had send you modules before, or am I mixing up things

[rain anchor]

it works on my pc

but not on another one

its weird

i placed it relative to the c0000.hks

so my path is "weaponcostumizer\allthemodules.hks"

"weaponcostumizer\\allthemodules.hks"

and all the modules are next to the hks inside the folder weaponcostumizer

[rain anchor]

do you know why that could be happening

[visual wadi]

Did you install all previous modules on the other pc as well?

[rain anchor]

Yes the whole mod

Like its the exact mod that worked for me

[visual wadi]

Then the issue is with the other pc

[rain anchor]

Ok

Ill try it on my friends pc

[smoky phoenix]

Hey Exelot, I was curious, is there a way to read or change the dummy poly a spell uses to fire its bullet from using hks and script exposer?

[visual wadi]

Pretty sure that's reliant on the animation right? I dont think that's mapped out

[smoky phoenix]

Yeah it is a value in the magic event in the .tae

[visual wadi]

Easiest way would be to have a table with every anim type and what dumy poly it uses

[smoky phoenix]

I was hoping it was possible, so I could try and make my universal casting system modular, but right now it requires animation edits to work unless I overwrite weapon model during cast

How would I change the dummy poly used for the bullet though?

I don't actually need to read the dummy poly I suppose, The main thing is I need a way to set it and was hoping to not have to alter weapon model for visuals, in the past I just edited every animation by hand but that is not really modular

[visual wadi]

I know Chain is working on mapping out exactly this

So it'll likely be possible

But I have no knowledge on the whats and the hows

[smoky phoenix]

Thank you, that is really good to know at the least, hopefully this means hks is some how capable of this

[rain anchor]

@visual wadi does this work like that?

bc it doesnt

[visual wadi]

Your get is wrong

[rain anchor]

Im stupid

[rain anchor]

@visual wadi how do i modify upgraded versions of weapons with setparamvalue?

Bc atm it just breaks the mod

Like i did
local wepid =GetWeaponID(HAND_RIGHT, 0)
SetParamValue(param, wepid, val )

I think its because upgraded version arent actually real param rows

[smoky phoenix]

You have to 'clean' the weapons id, because upgraded weapons use an offset in their id instead of the actual item id found in the params

[visual wadi]

GetWeaponID(HAND_RIGHT, 2)

Making it 0 makes it so it doesnt clean up the last 4 digits

[rain anchor]

Ik that but what about scaling etc

[visual wadi]

He's on a more updated version of my code

[rain anchor]

I mean when i modify the base the +25 will have different values

[visual wadi]

Well yeah, that's how scaling orks

[smoky phoenix]

Scaling is done through the base weapons scaling, attack element correction, and reinforcement param I believe

[visual wadi]

You dont update the scaling of the upgraded version, you update the scaling on the base version and that will affect scaling between 0 to 25

[rain anchor]

The problem is that the values should be on the Upgraded version not the base. In my mod you can edit f.e the damage for example to 2000 the +25 version will do like 5000 damage even though the player wanted 2000

In case he wants the +25 to be edited

Bc thats just how my mod is supposed to work

[smoky phoenix]

And ahh, do you have id cleaning built in to your newer functions? That is convenient

[visual wadi]

Well then you have to redesign your feature

Maybe update the calCorrect param instead

[smoky phoenix]

Update the base weapon and the reinforced should also reflect the changes I believe, I think you have to update the base unless you want to use custom speffect applied based on your weapons upgrade level

[rain anchor]

It seems really complicated to do bc it can be changed for multiple weps at the same time

So you would need to create new calccorrect rows for every weapon

[visual wadi]

Yeah, you just do GetWeaponId(HAND_RIGHT), and it will clean the last 4 digits, the second argument of GetWeaponId allows you to overwrite this but it has a default value of 4, so 0 makes it not clean at all and 2 makes it only clean the upgrade p art

[smoky phoenix]

Nice, I had to figure out id cleaning myself when I realized I couldn't update reinforced params myself and also wantedto make proper dynamic vfx for infusions

Does your code have a way to strip the equip and read just infusion or upgrade level too?

[visual wadi]

I always had a cleaning function shipped with my getWeaponid code

[visual wadi]

The vlaue it fetches always includes the infusion and upgrade level yes, but strips them away in the fucntion by default. Is that what you mean because I am honestly not sure about the quesiton

[rain anchor]

So there isnt really a way to edit the damage of an upgraded weapon directly

[smoky phoenix]

I mean simply the 3rd and 4th values from the end that denote infusion, and the last 2 values

[rain anchor]

Through hks

[smoky phoenix]

I wrote code for that so I could make vfx update based on infusion

[rain anchor]

Well then how can i make sure the damage doesnt go above 9999 on upgrade?

[smoky phoenix]

I do not know how to explicitly set a damage cap properly if that is your question, other lwise your best bet would be custom reinforce params, or speffects to modify damage of the weapon applies dynamicly through hks based on reinforcement

[rain anchor]

The issue is that the max damage of a weapon is 9999 and when it goes above i think it gets some weird numbers

[smoky phoenix]

Is this a dynamic system?

[rain anchor]

Yes

Its the newest mod in mod announcements if you want to take a look

[smoky phoenix]

I can try and check it out later, I am not at my pc right now

[rain anchor]

Its hks based and you can set dmg to 9999 but how would that behave for upgrades

[smoky phoenix]

It would be based largely on what the weapons reinforcement param says to multiply at depending on upgrade level

[rain anchor]

So like it could go above 9999?

Bc then it would break i think

[smoky phoenix]

Idk that part, 9999 is likely a limitation on engine or else where

But the scaling behavior for upgrades is largely handled there and you could just make it so upgraded levels so not scale up at all using reinforce params or dynamically altering them

And then set the value directly in hks with your system

[rain anchor]

So literally removing upgrade scaling is the only thing i can do

[smoky phoenix]

What exactly are you trying to accomplish?

[rain anchor]

I want to be able to dynamically change upgraded weapons stats

And i know that they dont have param rows

Its complicated

[smoky phoenix]

If you want them to be exactly what you want you would need away to read the weapons upgrade level and either set the weapons upgrade scaling to stay base or you would have to do the math for the weapon based on is level and the multiplier in weapon reinforcement param

[rain anchor]

Ok

But im not entirely sure how to read the param

The upgrade param

[smoky phoenix]

I can better try and help when I am back at my pc, you basically start at the weapons reinforcement param and then the offsets are the weapons upgrade level

[rain anchor]

like is that the percentage up from base or from the line before

[smoky phoenix]

Those are multipliers

So 3.8x base

[rain anchor]

ok

great

[smoky phoenix]

2.3 x for phys and magic

[rain anchor]

understood

[smoky phoenix]

Once you get the hang it is alot less complicated than it seems

They are also technically independent of each other

So if level 9 is 1.8x or so, you can make level 10 1x and just go back down to base damage instead if you want

[rain anchor]

yes im doing a lot of math atm

what does base attack rate do?

[smoky phoenix]

baseAtkRate? I do not remember if it actually affects the base at all, but it does multiply the base damage specfically when added to an attack param using isbaseattackadded

so mostly for ash of wars and I think maybe some unique attacks

[rain anchor]

my head hurts

i regret writing my code unreadable

[smoky phoenix]

I had to work alot of this stuff out in my last overhaul mod to make universal casting work, but it has been awhile, also not really relevant but the reinforce param protector still works for armor if you know what to do but you have to rig up the names individually instead of it working automatically

are you just writing pointers and offsets directly? or using Exelot's code? regardless it helps to make sure you leave yourself notes either in the code with --
or just somewhere you prefer to leave yourself notes or information

[rain anchor]

i tried writing code that automatically divides by the multiplier

it gets the last 4 digits then gets the mult for that

and then divides

but my code is really chaotic so no clue what i did wrong

basically it returns numbers like 1092 - 1293819274091740912049

[smoky phoenix]

the last 4 digits of what? the equipment id? or something else?

[rain anchor]

the weapon id

thats what determines the affinity and upgrade

have fun reading if you want

basically i created a bunch of lists at the top which include every possible mult and every possible end

i scrapped that and just replaced the 0 offset with 2 GetWeaponID(HAND_RIGHT, 0) to GetWeaponID(HAND_RIGHT, 2)

its not ideal but its to complicated with my bad code+

[smoky phoenix]

were you able to get it to do what you want using getweaponID? I am not much help when it comes to any serious indexing of tables or arrays, I can make and reference lists but my brain does not like to process things like 'for i = n do' and 'example = table[i]'

[rain anchor]

Basically yes

But also no

So my code was right but i got confused with the mess i created before so it didnt work

[rain anchor]

@visual wadi im having really weird issues with my mod and i really dont know what could be the cause. I released my mod yesterday and since then i got like 7 bug reports about stuff i never saw before in my mod i am testing and testing and testing and i just don't have issues with my mod like what could be the cause that my mod just doesnt work for some people

i installed it from the nexus and tried if that messed smth up but literally everything worked

even multiple times

like 20 times in a row

that means i cant even test what causes these issues

[visual wadi]

Describe the bugs, and were they in seamless

[rain anchor]

Seems like the hks broke

or rather like the exposer broke

thats the problem im facing

it seems that the hks breaks either through script exposer or through the hks not loading

it worked on mine and a friends pc

maybe its an installation issue

the script exposer isnt allowed to be moved

bc if it moves away from the modengine folder into the mod folder for example it doesnt work anymore

Im not sure but i hear often that they can't switch the weapon and cant drink their flask, regular stuff when the hks breaks at a specific part

But it generally feels like it breaks after the hks tries to do something with the weapons

[rain anchor]

So mostly inability to twohand weapons ride torrent and drink flask and no ersc

[rain anchor]

It seems to happen after something new from my mod gets triggered

[rain anchor]

And the most confusing part is that i set the mod up at my pc my laptop and my friends pc and it worked on all 3 flawless

[visual wadi]

Sounds like a function in your HKS is crashing

In your update function, log after every function call

[visual wadi]

It needs to be in the place where the toml expexts it

[rain anchor]

Like i said everything works for me but not for them

Its really weird

I tested on multiple pcs and everything worked

I tested it literally 30+ times every function and it worked(it took hours)

Its like the mod is cursed

But ill test it with logs

[rain anchor]

Also this isnt true except im dumb so once i tested putting the exposer into the mod folder and it just didnt load the mod at all

[visual wadi]

Wdym it isnt true

[rain anchor]

So it is true but this is also true

I said it wrong i meant it isnt always true

Anyways the logs dont say anything weird

I put them in a lot of places everything normal

But as you can see on the nexus page people are reporting bugs that the hks has problems

And i dont know how i should fix that if i never get any issues

Like it worked on 3 devices for me

And somehow i got 10/80 people saying it doesnt work

[rain anchor]

@visual wadi does changing pointer cause desync in ersc?

and are dynamic params the only thing that causes desync

[visual wadi]

dynamic params can cause seamless to not want to connect if the two regulation bins dont match, that's why you set up everything to be with eventflags

[rain anchor]

but are params the only cause for desync?

[visual wadi]

Depends on how you define a desync

I have plenty of moment where I want one player's pointers to be modified but not the others

Thats why I have a local player check

[rain anchor]

so the pointers would apply to all the players?

[visual wadi]

If there is no local player check in the update or in the function then yes

Which can be undesired

[rain anchor]

like changing vigor for example would cause my friends vigor to go up

[visual wadi]

Depends on what pointer is used

If it's chrIns then it can be synced yes

Game Base, probably not

That's where shit can get weird

[rain anchor]

but does this stuff cause conflicts that lead to desync that causes the game to be unplayable

[visual wadi]

All depends on what you're writing to

It's not a one awnser fits all question

It's a case by case basis

[rain anchor]

ok

so stuff like stats can be changed

and stuff that only affects one playes game so stuff the others cant really see

[visual wadi]

Again, cant generalize it untill the actual method of implimentation and context is carefully reviewed

Any param changes need to be syncronized with flags

But outside of that, everything needs to be reviewed per thing

Any ChrIns pointer stuff is fine to be syncronized and doesnt need special treatment I think

So if you give me a list of all base game pointers and how they are used, I can tell you which ones cannot be synced

[rain anchor]

ok great and do params work fine by just using flags for params and for pointers just test?

i dont really know how flags are handled in ersc

if you could tell me if flags get synced between players or not, i would just find the other stuff out by myself

but i need to know if flags sync

[visual wadi]

Flags are alsways synced

[rain anchor]

ok great

[rain anchor]

how can i find out in which of all these different places i have to put this in the chrinspointers hks module

its Runes in CE and its in the path Hero/PlayerParam/soul

[visual wadi]

GameDataMan is a basegame path

So that will only house the local player tuff

Wait

I need to verify my BS first, give me 10

yeah game data man is a basegame path

And it should already be in the base game pointers file I send you

Class index is even already in there

[rain anchor]

Inside gamebase pointers there isnt something called runes or soul

But in which part do i add it?

[visual wadi]

No but there is Game Data Man and Class Index

You can expand it from there

[rain anchor]

So gamedataman offset, 0x08, 0x6C?

For the offset part

Or like this :
{_GAME_BASE, SIGNED_INT, _GAME_DATA_MAN, 0x8, 0x6C }

Probably like that

[visual wadi]

Assuming it's a signed in, then yes

[rain anchor]

It probably is unsigned

[visual wadi]

Prolly

[rain anchor]

Ok thanks

[rain anchor]

is there a way to check if the player is the multiplayer host?

because in my mod one script is supposed to only run for the host

[rain anchor]

is team type Host and character type Host for host?

so @visual wadi lua if GetPointerValue(GAME_BASE.WORLD_CHR_MAN.MODDED_STUFF.TeamType) == 1 then this should work right?

[visual wadi]

[[[WorldChrMan]+10EF8]+0] just points to the CHR_INS_BASE of the local player

And I am pretty sure that the CHR_INS_BASE table already contains the teamtype

Also Personally I would go and use GAME_BASE.CS_SESSION_MANAGER.SESSION_STATE and then check if it's 3 or lower

[rain anchor]

Oh okay

Ill just use that

And that also works with seamlesscoop?

Nvm how would it even work without

I forgot that you cant play modded multiplayer without seamless

[visual wadi]

This works with Seamless yes

It was yui who gave me this data so that I could make propper checks. It was what the is LocalPlayer stuff used to rely on

[rain anchor]

Does it always sync to be the same as the host or does it follow some other weird rules

Also is it possible to read keyboard inputs in hks?

[visual wadi]

It syncs both ways

Some flags like NG+ are not synced

But that is a handpicked list

[rain anchor]

So if i change a flag in my game this flag will change for the others even if im not host

[visual wadi]

The only key inputs that can be read are the ones that already do something

[rain anchor]

Ok so ill need to write a dll

Anything i have to worry about when setting flags for ersc?

Like what would happen if i set a flag to on and then almost immeadiatly back to off

Like in the same frame

How would that affect others

They run the same geteventflag Stuff

Can it happen that it just isnt active anymore for them

[visual wadi]

Then it would be turned on and off on the other end too

[rain anchor]

But it only turns on at the host

So the host does:

• Rng between flags 0000-0366
• get if 0000 == 1 do smth
• set all flags off
  The other players do:
• get if 0000 == 1 do smth
• set all flags off

Because it isnt supposed to be rolled for every player

Bc that would result in 4 times the chance in my case

[rain anchor]

@visual wadi how can i make the player run faster i tried to set the Speed modifier CHR_INS_BASE.CHR_MODULES.BEHAVIOR_MODULE.SPEED_MODIFIER to 2 but it didnt change anything

[visual wadi]

That would do it, but it needs to be done every frame

I can send you my animation modile

Module

Tomorrow

[rain anchor]

What about this? How does this work

[rain anchor]

Thats what im doing atm

[rain anchor]

I scrapped that whole idea bc everything literally everything broke once in coop

[rain anchor]

@visual wadi is it maybe possible to get if the player isnt host and then difference 3 different players which joined the lobby

like Host does this
nonhost 1 does this
nonhost 2 does this
nonhost 3 does this

sounds weird but my mod does some crazy shit

[visual wadi]

You can see all the coop states in the screenshot

[rain anchor]

so no way to diff the non host players

so for hks all clients are the same?

i mean the pointers

there has to be a way to only apply something when youre player 2 for example

[rain anchor]

Like the game has to be able to tell the different clients apart

And the pointers that are there are just pointing to the coop state like you said

Do you maybe know if we someone knows how to do that

Would be huge

[visual wadi]

Mate... 6

[rain anchor]

Yes thats what im talking about. In my question before i asked how its handeled with multiple clients

[rain anchor]

This

[visual wadi]

Ah

There's client number yes

I had it some time ago but wasnt using it anymore. I can probably fetch it

Remind me in 10h or so and I will fetch it

[rain anchor]

Ok

[rain anchor]

@visual wadi you told me to remind you about the client slots

Also i would appreciate help with the speed modifier

Bc that doesn't work for me

[visual wadi]

Good you did

Looks like I did actually place it in GameBasePointers and didnt fully delete it

It's literally the first item

Furthermore here is my animation module

Feel free to cut a bunch of my stuff out

Dont forget to call the main func in update

[rain anchor]

Didnt see that at all i searched for coop and forgot that it can also be called multiplayer

[rain anchor]

Anyways what does it output

Like 1 2 3 4

Or 0,1,2,3

And is the host always the first one

[visual wadi]

https://tenor.com/view/doug-maclean-whiteboard-fa-fo-f-around-find-out-gif-27532870

Havnt used it in a year, and you're capable enough to look at it yourself

[rain anchor]

Yes i am capable, the issue is that i have to get all my friends to be online at the same time

Which will be hell

But still thanks for the information

[visual wadi]

You can just go singleplayer and open your world to seamless and see what the state is

Also know this

If a player leaves and comes back, they will not fill in the same slot as before

It will always go up by 1 when someone joins, and can reach high numbers

[rain anchor]

oh thats a problem

anyway to fix that

i need specific numbers

i dont know how to do it the other way

[rain anchor]

do you maybe know a way to track those numbers

like i have 4 scripts which should do
if p1 then do
if p2 then
if p3 then
if ß4 then

[visual wadi]

Not at the moment no

Brain is a bit dead

[rain anchor]

making this seamless coop compatible is difficult af

[smoky phoenix]

Could you save a players slot and name when they join and if the slot is higher than 4 or whatever the max is set it back down to a slot that is not taken? or would that just cause desync or issues if you try changing the value?

also could you store player names on join to help keep track of which player is which regardless?

[rain anchor]

Probably

I can try

[rain anchor]

@visual wadi is it even possible to get strings with the exposer?

its unicode 32

[visual wadi]

Somewhat

I got the model name which is a string

[rain anchor]

like the players name

and how would that work inside the hks

like as which data typ

[visual wadi]

        local modelPart1 = env(TraversePointerChain, pointerTable[1], SIGNED_SHORT, unpack(pointerTable, 3, _end)) - 0x30
        local modelPart2 = env(TraversePointerChain, pointerTable[1], SIGNED_SHORT, HandlePointerIncriment(pointerTable, 3, 2)) - 0x30
        local modelPart3 = env(TraversePointerChain, pointerTable[1], SIGNED_SHORT, HandlePointerIncriment(pointerTable, 3, 4)) - 0x30
        local modelPart4 = env(TraversePointerChain, pointerTable[1], SIGNED_SHORT, HandlePointerIncriment(pointerTable, 3, 6)) - 0x30

Here you can see me fetch a character model by the individual byte

A character name is 32 characters long iirc

Just find the values and then turn the unicode into values, pretty sure lua has methods for it

Yeh you just take the unicode and do string.char(input)

You can probably leave out the -0x30 thing I did

[rain anchor]

ok ill try it out

[rain anchor]

what is HandlePointerIncriment

[rain anchor]

bc that doesnt tell me what that is

[visual wadi]

Basically makes it so the next object is the last item in the table +4 a offset

[rain anchor]

i think ill just use 4 different emevd files with each appliying a different speffect

so each player has a different sp effect

[rain anchor]

@visual wadiand what youre saying is that for the speedup i have to do this every frame?

SetPlayerSpeedModifier(modifier)

[visual wadi]

Yah

[rain anchor]

@visual wadi im wondering is it possible to save variables between hks loads, like if i warp everything seems to reset

i need something that stays the whole time active and only deactivates if the game closes

so that it is turned off the next time i load the game

i tried this:

if alreadydone ~= 1 then
    alreadydone = 0
end
``` infront of Update but it still set to 0 even though it should stay 1

this happened on hks reload

[smoky phoenix]

definitely more Exelots territory but you might be able to use flags for this, but I do not know
though for saving variables you can technically write either to your own module or to another module to save updated variables and than load that module on load to 'remember' the saved variables, but I do not know of a way to differentiate loadscreens in game and loading the game on boot personally so you would need to come up with the logic to have it clear on game load still

[rain anchor]

No flags dont work sadly

Because how am i supposed to reset them only on launch

[smoky phoenix]

I really do not know much about flags or the systems that manage them sorry,
and with hks I am not actually sure it differentiates loading on boot or loading between maps, so I really do not know how to go about that with in game systems, just that saving variables is atleast possible

if it is possible to hook or check for the close game or return to desktop options you may be able to make those manually set your variables to clear on close but I don't know how to do that off hand either

[rain anchor]

Ill think about what j could do

Yeah you could check close game

But what about alt+f4

Or a random crash

That would break the whole thing

[smoky phoenix]

those can cause bugs with saves in general and would break things correct
I am not entirely sure what you could do, may I ask for context?
also regardless, you will likely be better off when Exelot is free/around to help more

could you make a variable that gets saved on close with everything else as X and on load if that variable is X then load saved variables

then set it to Y and if it is Y on load have it default instead of load saved variables

sorry, that would break loading between maps though, I am not sure off hand

[rain anchor]

Well theres a different way but idk how, my hks launches a python program

And each time it reloads it opens another instance

Which isn't supposed to happen

Only one on game launch

[smoky phoenix]

the game reloads the hks on all loading I believe

so if the python program is not set up to close or atleast not open again if running then each load screen would do that

[rain anchor]

Thats what I'm saying

Its an unlimitedly looping program that only stops once the game process closes

And it breaks once 2 are active

Well i could kill and restart it

But idk how that works

Bc the process is just called python

[smoky phoenix]

that was my first suggestion, but I do not know how you are loading or running your python program with hks, unless I am misunderstanding

[rain anchor]

Os.execute

Which opes a cmd which opens the python script

[smoky phoenix]

apparently you can use this line to kill a task if it exists
os.execute("taskkill -im process_name_here.exe")

I do not know if this works but I found suggestions to use code like this to check if something is running:

filedata = io.popen("tasklist /NH /FO CSV /FI \"IMAGENAME eq "..processname.."\"")
output = filedata:read()
filedata:close()

if output ~= "INFO: No tasks are running which match the specified criteria." then
    -- Program is running
else
    -- Program is not running
end```

[rain anchor]

Yeah the issue is its a .py

Its just python.exe

But what if another py is running

[smoky phoenix]

oh, my bad, I thought you were having issues on the lua side with calling the python script too much

could you use the second block to only run the python script if it is not already running?

[rain anchor]

No no issues just that i can't find a way to kill the py

Or to check if its already running

Bc like i said in the task manager its just python.exe

I tried those things already

Did smth wrong probably

pythonw.exe

i think it works now

anyways thanks for your help

[smoky phoenix]

cool, glad you got it figured out

[visual wadi]

Could use a param row value somewhere that's unused as a bool container. But other than that, no

Also, why use HKS to launch a python script, you can launch it through the Modengine bat

[rain anchor]

You can, didnt know that

I use hks for the flags

[rain anchor]

@visual wadi how can i make sure that the chr debug spawner doesnt summon the enemy into the ground

[rain anchor]

also whats the worst thing that can happen when using the spawner to often

[visual wadi]

Base the position on player coordinates

[visual wadi]

Every non spawned enemy despawns, including the boss

And graces

Meaning graces cannot be interacted with

And bosses don't show up in a boss room

[rain anchor]

thats some evil shit

does that reset on death?

[visual wadi]

On loading screen

[rain anchor]

ok so on death and warp

[visual wadi]

Like, you could teleport to a gracs

No clue if quitting out would work

[rain anchor]

but one enemy replaces one random enemy slot?

[visual wadi]

Yes

[rain anchor]

ok so its pretty rare that a boss actually despawns, im using x3 enemies btw

[visual wadi]

Depends on the size of the map