#Datapoint: Lack of resources to even achieve Taros 2.0

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woeful roost
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A lot of players already express how lack of content, discouraging and disappointing the direction of this game is going. Let me put it in resource perspective.
Assuming I'm a player who finally able to reach Jordra, i likely have a Max Uaithne Helm but rest of resources might still be base Uaithne.

Entry Requirement according to test server:
Critical 370
Balance 220
Defense Penetration 460
Additional Damage 9,400
Destruction Power 14,000

For Morgant's essence you need 10 for hand and 10 for leg (add another 2 to each part to advance from Orna), you also need 50 each for Unrelenting Uaithne Crystal. Similar for Gorbas, you need 50 Robust Uaithne Crystal.

On the market place today as of 11/07/2025

  • 11 Morgant's Essence
  • 9 Gorbas Essence
  • 222 Unrelenting
  • 116 Robust Uatihne Crystal
  • 101 Uaithne Crystal
  • 3 Fate ES

I haven't count the Uaithne Fragment yet. But these resources on market place is enough to get 1 or 2 player to max out to be able to join Taros 2.0.
But hey worst case i farm they hard every day and get the weekly exchange for the materials.

BUT WHERE DO WE GET THE UAITHNE CRYSTAL?
Looking at the Destruction Power or Attack Surplus or whatever you want to name it. Assuming you change it from 5 to 15 per tuning according to the test server update. Assuming I have base Jordra stat Attack surplus 11250
(14000 - 11250) / 15 = 183.33
With 101 on the market we don't even have enough for 1 player
THAT'S RIGHT! YOU LOCK THE RAR AND BAR THE PLAYERS FROM ENTERING!

What about FATE ES?
We need at least 2 to enter. On the market place today there's only 3 listed!
One sold out, only option is special dungeon and pray to God i get one from the enchant pouch that still contains outdated ES selling for 1M, 2M. Just need to get 200 box and sell 200 of them. AND SPECIAL IS LOCK BEHIND STATS ALSO

Honestly at this point Hell Redeemer is more enjoyable than expecting the new contents. Keep this up, and you’ll lose the rest of your players

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i can gather more data and update regularly if things improved or add additional data point for Eriu. As other says, every stage of players ranging from new to end game are suffering at this point

bright mica
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Not to mention you also need red fragments to advance and tune your gear which is heavily cockblocked these days. One person can sweep the mp and still not be able to enter. Such high reqs are ridiculous with how small the playerbase is and how bad drop rates are

spice glacier
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alr2 was supposed to be an optional stat since it was added, an overpriced stat that barely did anything and was just there as a "you always got something to improve" in the case that you were done with the gear, nobody would had expected they would make it mandatory one day and its a big mistake from their part to do that.
Also as mentioned above, the red fragments bottleneck so much they make me want to quit the game forever, if there's something I cant stand in online games is suddenly increasing the value of an item that has been around for years by 5-10 times more and give massive advantage to hoarders. Such a bad move.

rich lantern
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To be frank crit and bal are at least 10 too high from being top 300 feasible even. Alr2 req is probably just better off ignored for NA and even getting to 9000 add is a big lift right now in NA. If Jordra was bad, this will be a catastrophe, I'm not even sure all gold crowns are getting in.

CF req requiring all new accessories is also pretty tone deaf tbh. Scrolls like mystic and fate make ring upgrading an extreme chore

woeful roost
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Thanks all for reply! Let me gather some data for red fragments and accessory next few days. Red fragments itself require dismantling from Orna or Uaithne pieces which are already in shortage after orna prices released. Hope to have some data to back me up

tardy reef
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Going BiS is unfortunately the safe solution for sure, in order to access any content in the game.
What I can imagine is not new-player-friendly, the advancement system needs adjustments imo, simply costing a TON of runes (Why 2 armor rune advancements and + rune costing 16 unstable runes itself), and also more sealed fragments since they've been added the responsibility of advancement stones...

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And that's after enhancing Orna gear, itself requiring rune for reforges, potentially setting you back as well.

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On that note, I do say it's outdated for runes to be per ID from events yes

granite gull
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the only problem i found was the runes

zealous sable
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I bet Korea doesnt even bother to check the state of the economy in NA/EU

cyan arch
viral relic
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with Semias, there is an incoming 6 crit and 4 bal

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plus 1 bal/crit from weapon advancement

cyan arch
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Also, getting into Taros 2 on day 1 isn't everyone's goal. The requirements literally get easier over time.

Getting into Jordra day 1 felt a bit crazy. But after the next boss came out, it started feeling a lot more reasonable. Now if you are capping Morgant, you very nearly have Jordra stats (minus the ALR).

With the super endgame ultra high stat gear, you are WAY beyond what is necessary for normal Raids, so Day 1 of an STD is like a reward for those players

viral relic
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the design makes them extremely profitable for the first month or two

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then the availability of its drops makes it more viable for everyone

next plaza
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eisen is still goat no ?

granite gull
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nop

woeful roost
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With replies I can see we have solutions for everything except Uaithne Crystal still (edit thanks for correction) and also sealed power fragment

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If we release a boss and tell players you can join two months later you can join what's the point of even releasing it?

zealous sable
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Thank you for being useful allanon

clever lance
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feelsNyleMan one of the gripes I have with this game is that everything is balanced around korea.
we might get lower stat requirements for raids and other similar things, but the market plays a major role too and NA/EU simply lacks the playerbase to keep the economy healthy.

and with each player leaving, regardless of the reason... it only gets worse and worse.

spice glacier
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and to think this would had never happened if they didnt removed them from seal of bravery shop

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huge mistake

lean dawn
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The rate of acquisition wasn't even that amazing... But it was something

spice glacier
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yeah it was prolly a "lets place the next essences in orna shop!" without thinking too much about it

lean dawn
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One of the things that kept me running rar was the fact that each run was worth about 2 sealed power on average from the seal of bravery exchange. Not exactly earth shattering amounts but it's still near-guaranteed fragment income

lean dawn
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Allanon is sure to patch it out soon™ though

spice glacier
lean dawn
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But I guess that's getting a little off topic. Point is, needing to pull 15k+ sealed fragments out of your butt is a huge challenge in the current state of the game without resorting to an alt army

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But it's still a manageable problem. Uaithne crystals, however...

spice glacier
spice glacier
viral relic
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just to be devil's advocate for a moment

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jordra needs max ALR 1, plus or minus a tiny bit

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for that, you need 300 ASG3

next plaza
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and shiny eisen to enter, otherwise u go alr 2

viral relic
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the uaithne crystal situation is worse, but market stock isnt a good measure of if something is ok or not

next plaza
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well is worse and worse at every update that goes for all games 😄 like a Must Do

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as for red fragments events should be more generous i think when u need 10k+ to get +10 +25 meh

bright mica
next plaza
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if we had old maps dismantle same as it was that wont be a problem

bright mica
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Way more compared to uaithne

next plaza
viral relic
next plaza
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3b derpMad

viral relic
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the core argument about uaithne crystals, which is partially flawed, seems to be that even with gold

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you cant just buy mats and fill the req

next plaza
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rosa did it in a month? or was more i dont remember

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just increase drop rates callHD

bright mica
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it would be way faster than uaithne

viral relic
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12/300 ASG3?

bright mica
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we have more sources of asg than uaithne coreboost cockblock

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and if we are nitpicking right now

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you cant max anything anyways

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since playerbase is so low

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one person can clear mp

next plaza
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feels same playerbase

next plaza
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Destruction Power 14,000 thats alr?

viral relic
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yes

next plaza
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thats max?

bright mica
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no\

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far from it

viral relic
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after Taros 2, the max becomes 33,690

next plaza
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thats crazy

viral relic
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ALR1 is unchanged, but ALR2 gets tripled

next plaza
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same mats?

viral relic
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yes

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which is why you are seeing posts that its 168 uaithne crystals or about there to get into Taros 2

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instead of triple that

bright mica
next plaza
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so events as i can see it will take a while but is free

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i wish i was

bright mica
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theres such a scarcity of mats

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its never been that bad

next plaza
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scarcity? like they low atm?

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hmm

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al2 weapon eisen max jordra max bis scrolls fate

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we cant even join haha without new earring

viral relic
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the public one doesnt have the Semias/Taros 2 stuff, or the changed stats

next plaza
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w8 it will automatic change to triple ah forgot

viral relic
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the numbers go up

next plaza
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how this crit and bal? with new upcoming scrolls?

viral relic
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pretty much

next plaza
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i see chieftainbest

viral relic
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10 from the bracelets, so you can call it 387 crit max possible on day 1