#Blute changes

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digital inlet
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exactly 10% dmg buff needed. testing grounds: glaive 80k <> blute 73k

why is nexon so bad at balancing ???? my question since 10 years

upper lance
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blute has way better options under aggro than glaive, better iframes, self healing, cares much less about stamina debuffs
if all you do is comparing sandbag dps then you cant complain about unbalances, hardly any sandbag time in an STD raid

digital inlet
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go jordra, with sanya, with glaive and blute... ofc complaining about balance cause nexon is the prolly the worst in balancing i ever saw

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sanya 50% more dmg than glaive, cause easy easy counter all the time

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old classes are outdated in their mechanics, anim locks, combo durations etc

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vellah is doing fine in std... why... cause counter not 4 sec long combo

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beside, blute is much more difficult to play

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i saw jordra solo with blute, it looked soo terrible

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combining ur different dodges and blocks all the time

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new classes just press space, tab and sometimes sp skills lol

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indeed im not complaining about glaive vs blute, but more like old vs new classes

somber vortex
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10% more damage would really be unjustified and way too much. She would sit at the top of the tier list with only a broken neam and Sanya then... that's not the point of balancing.
You don't usually balance around the overtuned classes...

digital inlet
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sanya and neam is broken ? after so many nerfs... still broken ? aehh ok. would blute beat them with 10% more dmg ? absolutly not

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best way for judge about balancing for me is raids, cause u can facetank with hp pots easy, and blute is behind glaive for sure

somber vortex
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I dunno how you play blute, but I'm getting 1st place in raid and STD since the update playing with the same friends where I always finished 2nd 3rd with something like 4-5% difference. And now I'm 1st with +1-2% sometimes more

So if anything, I'm worried she will get nerfed again

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I gained something like 4% dmg in Eisen. That's huge imo

digital inlet
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sry but u and your group is not the measure for me. idk you or your mates, i played blute many years in duos and trios in deemers, nowadays a changed to glaive still its finally a viable weapon (after being like 10 years underpowered)

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so if i did duo deemers years ago and can place 1st in jordra i expect im not the worst player

somber vortex
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Being worst or not is not the point. My point was to show the amount of dmg gained through raids while simply adapting a bit to the changes.

She did get buffed. I'm just saying asking for an extra 10% is completely too much and unjustified.

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As far as I remember you did share your gear to your second Lynn (I just noticed who you are). Imo if glaive is still 10% in front during raids, then glaives needs to be tuned down.. But extra 10% for blute would just be ridiculous

upper lance
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its an awkward buff compared to what ppl expected, but its working, thats what matters

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and tbh this thread is the first time I see someone reacting so negatively to it

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just raw damage against a training dummy, nothing else matters

somber vortex
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So, I was curious EDIT: fck up my results in the wrong training ground

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But those were the free grounds, not testing grounds.. dunno what difference it makes

upper lance
somber vortex
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ah, I was afraid of that

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damn gotta do it again then

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quite a different story indeed

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surprising that it does indeed only give 72k/73k in there
Because the real raid feel is nothing like it

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but yeah, got the same result

upper lance
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cat with fading

somber vortex
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I don't have anything on my cat

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Still a nice extra 2k for you. dunno if it's only due to fading but really not bad imo. Idk what other classes manage to score tho. And again, it's not that releveant for Hero+ or STD

upper lance
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with metal spam I did 74330 which is great too

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its cool how despite giving much less SP its nearly the same dps due metal being an overall better smash

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than the messy fnf

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had no SP for the 2nd paranormal with metal

somber vortex
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Yeah, it really builds up 2 different "main" ways of playing. But in the end depending on the boss, fnf can be barely usable. The character is a great smash mixer. I love her for that

upper lance
somber vortex
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damn

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Which also in the end is kinda the optimal way to play in std. Or so I believe

upper lance
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feedback invalidated

digital inlet
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im not reacting negativly to the last blute buffs, i just say its not enough. im very happy with the new sp management, and im happy blute is not one of the lowest in dmg anymore. but a class that is 10x more difficult to play should be able to beat other classes in certain scenarios. with glaive i can beat some op classes vs certain bosses, while i have 0% chance at some others (like std). totaly fine if classes have their strong and weak spots. but old classes have a very very strong tendency to not be able to beat a new class in any kind of content. thats my main problem and the reason why i hate nexons balancing soo much. every time a new class is released, its broken, then 1-2 nerfs, still op. while forget old classes sometimes for years the rebalance. no wonder i do 20% in jordra with sanya, and 11% with glaive, that distance is to justified by any means. and btw ur testing grounds doesnt proof much too. happy crit happy number. u just need more and more runs to max the number.

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ill stay fight for old classes who cant keep up with the high tiers

upper lance
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nope it wasnt crit rng, I got 79k 3 times in a row when mixing metal and fnf, compared to the initial test where I did 74.8k by just doing fnf

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82k was by using iron breeze right away on cooldown against the wall (so no time was lost in repositioning)

somber vortex
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I feel like if you compare any class to sanya in Jordra then 80% from classes are trash. Sanya is just too strong for how safe she is to play and that she permanently dish damage. No class should be allowed to do so much dmg as her during their evasion moves

digital inlet
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karok, vella, achel, neam, belle, idk who else... can compete with sanya. i compare a lot to sanya because i played sanya a lot, so i have a lot of knowledge about her. not 80% are trash, but maybe 30% and that is what i hate so much

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basicly, sanya is pretty much the same as ts vella when we can counter a lot. but if we cant counter enough sanya wins cause she does dmg also without counters

worthy frigate
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is the character out btw? every time i want to visit vindictus i have to redownload 25gb game file lol idk why because the game folder was already on my pc