How do I make entities render like the ender dragon?

[lime grotto]

I’m creating an addon with a gigantic zombie (scale 30x) but it disappears when I get not even that far, I’ve noticed that the ender dragon doesn’t do this, how can I recreate this in my pack?

[flat chasm]

You mean despawn or disappear in screen?

https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/minecraft/creator/reference/content/entityreference/examples/entitycomponents/minecraftcomponent_despawn?view=minecraft-bedrock-stable

[hushed cloak]

They mean rendering, most likely

And if so, it can't really be done
You can either bring the entity closer to the player with teleport or you can use an animation to animate them closer to the player

[lime grotto]

There are addons that have done it so it has to be possible, like the witherstorm, even if I go a thousand blocks away I can still see it

[fossil pine]

that is hardcoded, but you can use identifier": "minecraft:ender_dragon"

[lime grotto]

But the ender dragon can still be summoned and works normally as well

Even at the same time

[fossil pine]

Wdym?

if you use that runtime identifier you still can have your mob and ender dragon

[lime grotto]

Does runtime identifier even work?

[fossil pine]

Yeah, why not lols

The thing is that you are going to get the hitbox of the ender dragon on your entity as well

[lime grotto]

Eh, I’ll sort that out later

[lime grotto]

runtime identifier? How?

minecraft:runtime_identifier doesn’t work under components

[fossil pine]

it is not supossed to be under components

you can put it below "identifier"

[lime grotto]

And I tried runtime_identifier in components and in description

[fossil pine]

https://wiki.bedrock.dev/entities/runtime-identifier

[lime grotto]

Doesent seem to be increasing the distance at all

Still becomes invisible after like 100 blocks

Or less

[fossil pine]

Well, 100 blocks is a lot xD

can you send a pic?

[lime grotto]

It’s like 60 blocks tall

In some of the addons I’ve seen I could probably go like ten million blocks away and it would still render, even out of render distance. Even though it would be too small to see

[fossil pine]

But do you see that entity, and other entities?

I mean, at the same distance

[lime grotto]

Idk

[fossil pine]

bc on your photo I only see the zombie

[lime grotto]

I think it makes it like 20 blocks bigger

[fossil pine]

so you are already rendering the zombie outside entity render limits

[lime grotto]

But I need it to be seen much further

The ender dragon can still be seen even this far away

[fossil pine]

maybe it's because you're scaling the model in-game, instead of scaling your model geometry on blockbench?

[lime grotto]

I’m using the scale component, it’s just default zombie geometry

[fossil pine]

Yes, that's why I'm saying that component could be the problem.

[fossil pine]

This addon here uses a masive model

[lime grotto]

But it should still be dissappearing when it’s a thousand blocks out of render distance

Also using any events for the witherstorm with /event also returns success on the Ender dragon but does nothing

[fossil pine]

I don't think the image you sent is thousands of blocks away, but anyway, this add-on uses the ender dragon runtime.

[lime grotto]

For some reason I have to use type = ender dragon to use commands on it

[hushed cloak]

Yeah, and those addons either do what I said or they edit the ender dragon entity file to make their entity technically the ender dragon and therefore render from far away

[lime grotto]

But I can still summon the ender dragon as normal somehow?

[hushed cloak]

Yes, because editing the ender dragon, in this case, works through adding component groups and properties to make the ender dragon and your entity essentially 2 separate entities in 1

[fossil pine]

Why would you edit the ender_dragon entity file if the rendering is hardcoded? 🤔

[hushed cloak]

Wdym?
The ender dragon's rendering is hardcoded to the entity, not it's geometry
Making the entity look like a different entity and act like a different entity won't make it stop rendering from further distances

[fossil pine]

Oh, are you talking about the RP entity? Even so, it wouldn't make much sense to start from the geometry of the ender dragon to create a giant zombie

the only thing that this guy needs is the custom render of the ender dragon, which can be obtained with the runtime identifier

[hushed cloak]

The runtime identifier has been claimed by many people to apparently not work

[lime grotto]

Sounds like it would be way too difficult and complicated

[dry grove]

not really

can just use component groups in the bp and queries to in the rp files to condtionally swap between models/textures

[hushed cloak]

There was someone who was turning the ender dragon into like 12 different entities just because they wanted planes
Its really not that hard

[willow cedar]

that's me 😭✌🏼

[hushed cloak]

Bruh, that was a month ago
How'd you even find me 😭

[willow cedar]

just found out render controllers are limited tho, at a certain number they start to not showing etc so if you want a ton of entities seenable from far away, I recommend trying something else. other wise here is how it looks (ender dragon lod) @lime grotto

[willow cedar]

im looking for new ways to load entities from far away cuz my system is limited

[hushed cloak]

And you've heard of the animation method?

[willow cedar]

what is that ?

[hushed cloak]

The entity's actual hitbox is the thing that can't render from afar but you can use animations to simulate bringing it closer

[willow cedar]

oh yeah I know this method but it's a proxy entity constently tpd to the player and apply as an animation, the distance between the player and the entity you want to render. that means : x number of entities for x players × x numbers of planes constently tpd

that would just kill the tps

maybe it's lighter than ender dragons for like 4 player and 4 planes but with a lot of planes, the ender dragon way will run smoother

@hushed cloak @lime grotto btw nvm, you can stack as many render controllers as you want, it was an error in my code, just figured it out and it works so yeah you can basically scale it as much as you want but the cost is to diseable the ender dragon in your mod

wich I don't care cause im making war addons

[hushed cloak]

XD

[cerulean idol]

its been patched now you used to be able to make them render like the ender dragon but 1.17 fixed that for whatever reason

[deep fractal]

How tho, this is what I really needed I keep searching for several months to figure it out how but none of them couldn't really help even AI couldn't

[willow cedar]

reed the messages bro 😭

[deep fractal]

I see sorry for that, but even though you didn't show some thing to provide, whether you use the animation to make the model go further away or using any complex rendering entity distant whatsoever

[willow cedar]

wait come dm, ill explain you

cause it really complicated but 100% worth it

[visual mountain]

if you think with a method of how you will do that without using the ender dragon as the base entitie how you will do it?

you can try make animations with far distance of the entity getting closer (the entity needs to follow the player always i think)

i heard someone do something like that but causes lag qwq