DDUI General

[hollow crane]

does DDUI allows custom inventory too? is it possible? or it's not designed on that?

[sturdy slate]

Check the pins.

[hollow shell]

67

[hollow crane]

I haven't seen anyone done it like an inventory here but I think it's doable

[sturdy slate]

@hollow crane

[sturdy slate]

What?

You're looking at the wrong pin.

[hollow crane]

I see

oh it's on the very bottom

second to the bottom

thanks a lot

also we got bad apple immediately dang...

[vast hull]

DDUI using textures/ui?

[vast hull]

what is this

[sturdy slate]

DDUI files for the in-game containers.

[vast hull]

Is it ready to be used?

[sturdy slate]

Idk.

[blissful bridge]

Take a peek at https://discord.com/channels/523663022053392405/1473948876162596956

[pale shard]

which character are you using for caolid colors?

is it modifiable with a resource pack already?

[rustic helm]

█

[rustic helm]

No

[pale shard]

are you using a custom font to make it fill the edges though?

[rustic helm]

No

[pale shard]

if you use json ui, you can display a second map on top with reduced alpha to mix colors together

but you would lose the real time display and the ability to move the map

[rustic helm]

In json ui you already need a second layer to fill the gap, that will make it 4

[pale shard]

oh, so those characters only fill the gaps in oreUI?

[pale shard]

not really possible then, because you can't have the translucent characters overlap or it will miss up the colors

[rustic helm]

Yeah

[pale shard]

CubeCraft has DDUI in Egg Wars, how is that possible?

not only does it have real-time updates, it also has custom style and a synchronized copy of the player inventory

[orchid warren]

that isn't DDUI

[median knot]

That's JSON UI

[sweet pewter]

https://klipy.com/gifs/how-do-we-tell-him-mr-krabs

[hollow shell]

https://tenor.com/view/riddler-paul-dano-new-rockstars-thumbnail-does-he-know-he-doesnt-know-gif-27552850

[pine ferry]

I think you forgot that people love to theme their UIs into Ore-UI style.

[rustic helm]

And someone hates that

[vast hull]

I

[pine ferry]

that's me lmao

genuinely almost every showcases ive seen are literally just Ore-UI themed with different layout and im not even exaggerating.

i don't even know if i can call it Ore-UI themed since its literally feels like a aseprite theme.

[sweet pewter]

Valid

I took am getting sick of it

[rustic helm]

welp, here you go
another one

[blissful bridge]

believe it or not its actually a chest

they just do their weird packet stuff to detect certain slot aka button clicks

[pale shard]

ok, but how does it run give players items a melee second they click a button without closing?

i have made chest json ui myself where i transformed clicking an item into a button click, and it wasn't like theirs.

it didn't feel the same

regardless, it can't be ddui anyway since it was only added 2 previews ago

[blissful bridge]

read my message above

[idle rampart]

*millisecond

[pale shard]

why do you assume that i haven't read it?

[blissful bridge]

Because you asked how it gave items when pressing a button without closing

And if you wanna test that it’s really a form just delete the pack out of your pack cache folder and re join without restarting the game

[visual oyster]

Did DDUI release yet?

Or beta maybe?

[nocturne venture]

no

[rustic helm]

dead chat

[nocturne venture]

nothing more to do with DDUI rn ig

[median lagoon]

Ddui isn’t even good

JSON is the way

[hollow shell]

Cap

[rough jay]

Nah he right

Ddui as it is right now is mid ash

[foggy stone]

yeah, right now

[rough jay]

Yeah so it’s ass

Seems we are in agreement

[sweet storm]

Real

[undone patio]

For now, that is

[hollow shell]

Better then the default actionfromdata menus I’m using now

[vocal fiber]

No duh. It's basically in alpha phase atm

Some Mojangsters have talked about some of the stuff that will come soon enough, in the preview chat it was first shown in preview

Plus, currently you can do more with just 1 DDUI modal than any ActionForm available atm as it combines all 3

[vocal fiber]

Undocumented mess that is being deprecated...

[median lagoon]

😭😭

[winter creek]

Also the most unpredictable and hard to debug ui ever created

[vast hull]

Is this forgotten now

[hollow shell]

@vast hull

Haha no

There’s just not much to talk abt since we really went over it

[blissful bridge]

yes

[nocturne venture]

dead but not forgotten

[shadow hill]

waiting it to released into stable

and have more api

and can be stylized/customize

etc etc

[vague turtle]

you

[vast hull]

nah

[vague turtle]

yes

[mint pumice]

did we already do everything possible with the ddui?

[knotty pewter]

I think so at the moment.

[raven nimbus]

Fun interface, everyone must have already played around with it.
I’m just getting started now :3

Also, does anyone know if unsubscribe from an Observable works as it should?
I’ve been trying it, and it seems like it won’t stop emitting events when using subscribe

[nova sparrow]

can confirm that it doesn't and never has worked

[lament trellis]

Hey, is this still an issue? we are not able to reproduce this from our side, we have placed some fixes around this

[knotty pewter]

I'm not sure, I'll do a test here.

[lament trellis]

Tx

[knotty pewter]

It seems to be working now.

[lament trellis]

Awesome, thank you so much!!

[white jasper]

That delay is rough 😩🙏

[digital river]

Oh gosh, I hope we get a textAlignment property added

Justify superiority

[vague turtle]

i wonder how that would work considering its ddui as of now

[rough jay]

I mean the workaround is fairly easy just need to measure the text

What we really need is layout but I’m starting to doubt anything will be added

[digital river]

What a workaround! 🗿

very .spacer() coded

[zenith turret]

Gonna put my money in layout files after gta 6, and css json bs after pc port releases

Is there somewhere I can bet on this!?

[signal vine]

I didnt know they had updated the module

this is amazing

what characters do they use for displaying images?

[rustic helm]

§a█

[signal vine]

thanks

[glad heath]

can i ask if DDUI can like.. generate a new button, label, dropdown and such.. while the form is open?..

[nova sparrow]

no

the only way to do this is to pre include the elements and only set visibility to true when needed

[rustic helm]

keep in mind you can change the button title dynamicly

[scarlet harness]

guys

[nocturne venture]

what

[scarlet harness]

is it just me or observable unsubscribe doesnt works as it should?

system.run(() => {
    const v = Observable.create<number>(0)
    system.runInterval(() => {
        v.setData(v.getData() + 1)
    }, 20)

    const subs = v.subscribe((v) => {
        console.log("V changed to", v)
    })

    system.runTimeout(() => {
        v.unsubscribe(subs)
        console.log("UNSUBSCRIBED")
    }, 5 * 20)
})

[scarlet harness]

that

[nova sparrow]

.

[scarlet harness]

oh alr thank you

[glad heath]

alrr thanks!

[bitter spruce]

Is it stable yet ?

[blissful bridge]

love how they pushed it to stable!

no bugs at all!!! 🔥

[rustic helm]

Huh? It is beta
That how things work, we get APIs in preview, they get to stable beta, and stay there until they are fully implemented with as little bugs as possible

DDUI is far from done

[blissful bridge]

uh no, preview shouldve been the beta stage of this, now its pushed to stable

when its nowhere near stable ready

doesnt really matter if its beta apis its still not close to being ready for stable

[rustic helm]

That how things worked for ages
There is only handful of stuff that stayed in preview, like the editor
Most stuff that is not ready or stable do require a experimental toggle (that do warn you about this)

[knotty pewter]

Really, but maybe this year we can achieve something basic like stability.

[rustic helm]

Well, hopefully

[scarlet harness]

there is a bug

[winter creek]

I feel like those observable for visible text etc.. are too much confusing and unreadable im making a class to handle them

[winter creek]

I ve made it if someone wants to try it #1486800687424606440

[glad heath]

is subscribing to many observables causes lags?

[winter creek]

It shouldnt, at least of you re not subscribing the same obs every time

[past gale]

it shouldnt and it does not can be 2 very different things xd

[winter creek]

if you arent doing an infinite list of buttons etc its almost impossible

sorry for ping i forgot to unping the reply

[glad heath]

Thankss!

[granite tartan]

is unsubscribing from observables not working for anyone else?

[nova sparrow]

yes, that is a bug

[granite tartan]

also why \n not work for this?

[rough gust]

msg for saving

[plain magnet]

can DDUI be used for custom HUD elements?

[foggy stone]

no
not yet

[knotty pewter]

Currently, DDUi can only be used by server-ui forms.

[vocal fiber]

It'll all come later 🤞

Keep in mind, later could be a few more weeks to a few more months, or even a year 😅

[sturdy slate]

Need Block UI ASAP

[plain magnet]

Gotchu, thanks guys

[vocal fiber]

I need Block UI also.
🙏

[knotty pewter]

We need block-entity first

[sturdy slate]

Nah.

Just player interact -> showForm

[vocal fiber]

Block UI is more important

Yessss

Or even just inventory slots with DDUI. And we can use that for block UI with what Smokey said

🙏

[sturdy slate]

Precisely, We need not to storing items as a first pass. All that needs is slots to put items and then when closed the items go into your inventory. Also allows for per player.

[vocal fiber]

We could use dynamic properties, with it right (if it ever happens)?
Or even save it through block location is possible

[sturdy slate]

For saving block "inventory"? Sure.

[vocal fiber]

Yeah

[sturdy slate]

I just need the most basic of basics which is just non persisting slots. Hook the slot into an observable, peak.

[vocal fiber]

Yeah, like a crafting table

That's mostly what I need it for also

[sturdy slate]

Yes, I too need something akin to a crafting table.

[knotty pewter]

I'm really curious to know how the custom block-entity will work. Do they intend to release fields that vanilla users already use? Because normally everything is saved in the NBT.

[vocal fiber]

I guess for now though we could use https://discord.com/channels/523663022053392405/1350130244111040593

But well, not blocks ofc

[sturdy slate]

Requires an entity. #bleak

[vocal fiber]

Yeah 😔

Does anyone know what the DDUI roadmap is like atm?

Is there anything public about what's next for it?

[sturdy slate]

All the info is pinned.

[knotty pewter]

I hope that adding images to the form will come soon.

[honest lynx]

its actually not that unstable. i've tried many stuff with it so far and it isnt too buggy

[blissful bridge]

yeah its not too bad its just very slow opening and closing

thats the only thing thats wrong

[honest lynx]

just to confirm, we will get container UI as in chest ui displayed without needing to do hacky workarounds? similar to java.

[vocal fiber]

Eventually, yes

That could be weeks, months or even a whole year btw

Hopefully now that DDUI is out of preview, we could hopefully see something from DDUI either today or next week 🙏

[honest lynx]

yeah, its great that they're thinking of adding these.

hopefully they wont have the slow close -> open animation for when sending an inventory UI while 1 is already open 😓

and not limited to the current container UIs, a 1-2-4-5 row chest ui would also be great. again, similar to java

[knotty pewter]

It is now possible to skip lines.

[vocal fiber]

Yeah, they added the \n for it today!

[knotty pewter]

Yea

[placid spade]

is it necessary to unsubscribe Observable subscribed functions regardless of the instance being unused?

[rancid hull]

How do you make it so only button in a given group of buttons can be disabled at a time?

[placid spade]

use boolean Observable and use it in {disabled}

[rancid hull]

Yeah I know that but how would I make it so that one button in a given group of say 5 buttons can be disabled at a given time

And if you disable one button the previously disabled button will be enabled

Is there like some simple way that doesnt involve making like 5 different observeables for each button and creation a specific function

[placid spade]

U can compress em in a class instance if u want.
The api doesnt have any other way to categorize them in one.

[rancid hull]

Why I am I getting error with my code

Like I don't even know what specifically I'm getting problems with

[placid spade]

closeButton().show().then()

[rancid hull]

Nope 😭

[placid spade]

and this

[rancid hull]

But I'm using js

[placid spade]

this is js

the value (mode) has to be the index of the dropdown

[rancid hull]

So basically it has to be a number

[placid spade]

Observable<number>

u can try number if u wana see the error

[rancid hull]

That's

Annoying

Also the slider was giving issue about something in there not being a function

[placid spade]

;-;

[rancid hull]

??????

Why

[placid spade]

2(radius...) ;-;

[rancid hull]

Thanks

[placid spade]

perhaps use this package https://discord.com/channels/523663022053392405/1434799340278382684

[rancid hull]

I'll try that

[mortal field]

How to switch form with this? for example you have a Main Form, then there is a Option button, after press that you will open Option Form

[upper pulsar]

I hope DDGUI will let us add custom components in the future since well, it's OreUI

I need this for geyser computercraft bedrock integration addon 🤑

[sturdy slate]

Custom Components as in?

[upper pulsar]

like

react components or something similar

where we get DOM access

[sturdy slate]

Ah, gotcha.

I was thinking the block/item route which...made no sense.

[upper pulsar]

I need this UI to be possible for a CCBE clientside port for geyser

[thorny citrus]

curse...

[upper pulsar]

not really

you have the terminal, your inventory, and the turtle's inventory on the bottom right

[thorny citrus]

we know

[upper pulsar]

I honestly only do bedrock addon things for geyser

If I've written a mod on Java that is mostly serverside logic with a bit of client logic I usually write a geyser extension that contains a bedrock addon

[placid spade]

then again...
Is it ok to not unsubscribe Observable instances regardless of them being unused (e.g. the form has been closed, the observable is unreachable)
It does leave the object have subscribe functions in them, is it safe to leave them without unsubscribing other than it being part of the logic?

[wild verge]

How do I close the customform within a function? I tried CustomForm.close()

[wild verge]

How do I close a customform in general

[placid spade]

r u sure it's form.close() and not like form.show().close()?

[wild verge]

SOLUTION:
const form = CustomForm.create(…);
…
form.close();

[wild verge]

Am I able to update the amount of buttons dynamically?

[nova sparrow]

You can't add buttons after creating the form but you can make hidden buttons visible

combined with changing the label of the button it is possible to add a button semi "dynamically"

[wild verge]

And you are positive?@nova sparrow

[nova sparrow]

that is what the changelog says

[wild verge]

Will a button visibility update if the visible option is an observable with a string as it’s data?
Can it evaluate to a Boolean?

[rustic helm]

it throws error iirc

[wild verge]

Why is it that when a custom form closes, an action form doesn’t open when requested?

[spice grove]

I think it's because custom forms take a second to close

[wild verge]

You’re right about that.

Waiting 6 ticks did the trick for me.

[noble laurel]

Is DDUI a form of ore UI?

[rustic helm]

yes

[noble laurel]

Is it worth learning now so I can apply it to resource pack stuff when that becomes an option?

[rustic helm]

from what we (i) know, this will be script side only

we can't customize it yet

[noble laurel]

"yet"

Json UI is getting replaced so should I start learning the new system early or wait till it's resource applicable?

[foggy stone]

you can't do anything in the resource pack right now anyways, and the new system we have is only for scripting forms right now

[noble laurel]

Ah

[knotty pewter]

You need to wait, as we are still in a very early stage.

[noble laurel]

Yeah I figured, is the system at least better then Json UI so far?

Im hoping to make something like this eventually

When support exists for it

[knotty pewter]

People say yes because it's web-based, but it depends on the individual; for some it is, for others it isn't. In the case of a form created with server-ui, it is indeed better since you can update the screen in real time without having to reopen the form.

[noble laurel]

I just hope it won't stay limited to server forms

If it's closer to web stuff then that's a good skill to learn anyways

[knotty pewter]

Well, in that case, DDUI needs to evolve to other screens. A Mojang employee said that it will indeed evolve to them, but at the moment we don't have much of a basis to follow to determine if it will be better or worse.

[knotty pewter]

According to them, no, it will not be limited only to forms.

Look

[noble laurel]

I just gotta wait a couple years

[knotty pewter]

Yes, but I hope it doesn't take that long. They're already finalizing the settings UI, and there are indications of pathways to the Marketplace in the ore UI.

In addition to screens already existing for containers

[knotty pewter]

Stable in 26.30

[shell elbow]

world.afterEvents.itemUse.subscribe((event) => {
    const { itemStack: item, source } = event;
    const player = source as Player;

    if (!player) return;
    if (item.typeId !== 'minecraft:stick') return;

    const formTitle = new ObservableString('MessageBox');
    const form = new MessageBox(player, formTitle);

    form.show();
});```
Why is this what an empty `MessageBox` looks like!?

I also think it's quite weird that we can't provide a .closeButton() or that the x close button isn't there in the form. It would also be nice to be able to make the 2 visible buttons side by side instead of stacked vertically.

[shell elbow]

So §o and §l doesn't seem to do anything but §k actually tries to do something by replacing all letters with a . which is strange. Obviously I expected §r to work as intended. I hope we see strikethrough or underline at some point with this new UI.

-# Edit: I also noticed that the new colour code §w following the new Party Chat text colour doesn't seem to be working in DDUI just yet. Now we just have §x, §y and §z left. What will Mojang do with them? 🤔

[short prairie]

kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk

[orchid zodiac]

xd

[thorny citrus]

Kkk

I'll never regret it, lol.

[knotty pewter]

Ddui is great, now I just need image support to make it work.

When that happens, I can do a full port of the old form to the new one. 👀

[vocal fiber]

Is there a way to add a DDUI to a pre-existing screen? Like the inventory screen? Or just always on?