attachables not being positioned right

[sick tusk]

i though i could fix it with editing the animation so i did but nothing changed and still broke any ideas on how to fix. when loading the game the item just start straight up throught the player bodys and changing the animation part doesnt affect it

ima send a screenshot of whats happening

I already know that the position and rotation are all 0 I did that cause the previous rotation also had it going straight up and I was trying to fix it

any help is appreicated

[sick tusk]

@main quiver this is the one causing me a pain now

I'm not getting any errors either

[main quiver]

Since mcpe has no problem with it you get no error
Do you use blockbench?

[sick tusk]

Yeah I used block bench for the model and exported it geometry

[sick tusk]

It should work so I'm just confused at the moment

[main quiver]

can you show it to me like this?

[sick tusk]

Yeah how can I get to that point on screen

[main quiver]

in blockbench in the animation section you can choose to between normal, first person and third peron

[sick tusk]

Really how cause when I open block bench I don't get those options

[main quiver]

phone or pc?

[sick tusk]

Uh a mixture but PC

[main quiver]

ok that makes it easier for me, on the right pretty much on top you should have modeling, painting and animation (like the blue part at the right top in the picture)

[sick tusk]

Yeah

I'm at animate let me take a picture

No animation for it

I'm currently on bedrock entity for the model

[main quiver]

and now in the middle of your screen it starts with moving and so on when you follow it to the right there are 2 boxes with words and the right one should be able to choose third person

[main quiver]

thats ok for now (well check the binding later)

[sick tusk]

so like that right and ima guess i have to create 2 animations right

[main quiver]

would be nice, one for this (third person) and one for the first also if you want it to follow the movement of the player arm (which I assume) then wee should check the binding

[sick tusk]

Ok got it 👍 so how do I do those animation do I just move it correctly then leave it be ?

[main quiver]

make a new animation (save it in to the animations folder) and then take the cube that has all others in it to the position that it looks good (sometimes you need to adjust it but it should show up at around that point that you want afterwards)

[sick tusk]

Ok I'll do it now

[main quiver]

here a example of how the binding should look in the geomerty file

[sick tusk]

Yeah that's what's mine looks like kinda

[main quiver]

the important bit is the binding to look like this (the rest depends on your geometry)

[sick tusk]

Let me send what I got for the binding

{
"format_version": "1.12.0",
"minecraft:geometry": [
{
"description": {
"identifier": "geometry.doomsword",
"texture_width": 64,
"texture_height": 64,
"visible_bounds_width": 3,
"visible_bounds_height": 4.5,
"visible_bounds_offset": [
0,
1.75,
0
]
},
"bones": [
{
"name": "1000015166-removebg-preview",
"pivot": [
7,
29,
0
],
"binding": "q.item_slot_to_bone_name(context.item_slot)",
"cubes": [

[sick tusk]

and thank you my god your a lifesaver

[main quiver]

that looks good

[main quiver]

don't say it before it is solved (sometimes I overlook small things...)

[sick tusk]

i made a animation called hold thats loops and holds the blade like this is that good

[sick tusk]

still a magor help

[main quiver]

you can also do hold last frame but a loop means you can add custom movement in to it

[sick tusk]

ah i jst want it to work for now lol but is it ok in the future if i get curios how to do it if i could dm you and ask how

[sick tusk]

ill swith it to hold last frame

[main quiver]

you might get a quicker answer here and I am not an expert in everything...

[sick tusk]

ok 🙂

[main quiver]

when you have both animations ready then edit your attachable file like this (changing the animation names as needed)

scripts and animations are important

[sick tusk]

do i make another animation now call 3rd person hold and just do the same animation as above?

[sick tusk]

got it

[main quiver]

the way you got it to show the third person you should also be able to see it from the first person perspective in blockbench

[sick tusk]

Got it so exact same got it 👍

[sick tusk]

Ok did as said and I'ma export and test it

Fingered crossed it works

so umm good news and bad news

good news it changed from striaght up

bad news

[sick tusk]

His sword is now at his feet

Improvement though

[main quiver]

and it is the thir person animation for it? (or did we mix up first and third person animation?)

[sick tusk]

It's both of them in first person its at your feet and in third person is the same so they both working luckily

An think it is a binding issue not sure

Should I change the pivot of the geometry to 0 0 0

[main quiver]

you can try but it theoretically shouldn't change to what is shown in blockbench

[sick tusk]

Ah dang ok

Why did it go to its feet though 🤣

[main quiver]

does you main bone have a parent to the arm (it seams to low ...)

[sick tusk]

Um how do I check

[main quiver]

try to send the complete geometry file (I'll look thru it to check)

[sick tusk]

ummmm two things

first the file is 5 thousand lines long

second it didnt have binding set up i deleted it by accident so ima give it another run

[main quiver]

visual studio code with a search😅

[sick tusk]

lmao

[sick tusk]

you should have seen the previous model that had 3 hundred thousand lines lmao

[main quiver]

I think I've seen more for scripts (if you know how to read it it is ok but if you don't then it look huge)

[sick tusk]

Lol I should I just send the whole add on then

[main quiver]

if you want but I will only tell you what I would do diferently

[sick tusk]

Yeah that works

[sick tusk]

@main quiver pls let me know what yah think would fix it 🙏

[main quiver]

well it would fit the problem (took me a while to find the right animation...)

[sick tusk]

Damn down there

🤣

[main quiver]

if I open it with it it is there...

[sick tusk]

It's in the right spot?

[main quiver]

its in the same spot as in game for me...

[sick tusk]

Strange why did you change anything else?

Or just that

[main quiver]

no, I only opened the model and loaded in the animations

[sick tusk]

Loaded in the animations above and instead of at your feet it was underground right?

[main quiver]

try these (adjusted to how I see them)

[main quiver]

I only took the geometry (load it with blockbench) and then the hold animation (loaded in to blockbench) and then I had the sword at the feet....

[sick tusk]

Strange why was it there

It was positioned right on my screen strange

[sick tusk]

Thansk I'll give it a try

[main quiver]

sry, was the wrong animation file😅

[sick tusk]

Lol all good I'll see

[main quiver]

that is strange (no idea why you saw it differently)

[sick tusk]

Proven god just hates me 🙏

[main quiver]

maybe if you load the model and animations fresh? (taht it was operating off of some older geometry?)

[sick tusk]

Dunno I'ma see

ok trying in game now

[sick tusk]

This is without doing your change

[sick tusk]

Now I'ma do a new model

[sick tusk]

Legit eating the blade sorry low-key got hungry

[main quiver]

ok, then i move it further to the right (first person will take them most testing to get right)

[sick tusk]

yippie

[main quiver]

did the third person work?

[sick tusk]

umm the word was lowkey popping out of there skull

wait ima dumbass let me check something

[sick tusk]

Still same nevermind lol

But good news is that this is closer

[main quiver]

well then happy testing (it is working but the exact numbers might need a lot more tests)

[sick tusk]

Yay fun

[sick tusk]

Um what variable would I change to move close to the side with the hand I want to use

[main quiver]

you can use blockbench as an assist (there you can see in what direction you are moving just the position seams to be a bit messed up)

[sick tusk]

Ok 👍

[sick tusk]

Welp thanks so much for the help time for testing yay

[sick tusk]

Ok think I found the fix I switch the pivots on the geometry to zero and this happened

It's in front of the player and down a bit too so I think I just gotta bring it back up

no clue why pivot is affecting it but yah know ill tak it

[main quiver]

pivot affects the point that it rotates around (so with rotations it can affect it)

[sick tusk]

eh strange anyway it should be fixed soon

[sick tusk]

Hey so update

Third person holding and first person holding working but

When in first person the sword isn't there

so i increase the visible bounds length and see if that fix it

nope didnt work dang

[sick tusk]

any idea why i cant see it in first person

[sick tusk]

So myro i found that it is definitely a bing problem cause the sword doesn't move with the hand when running in 3 person

[main quiver]

I'll put it into a pack of mine tomorrow to test it

[sick tusk]

Ok thumb 👍

Here is the latest version

[main quiver]

In first person when the item is out of the visible field then it seems invisible... (So an animation thing most likely)

[sick tusk]

I can see it in first person now but problem is that it is not attached to the players arm for some reason even though binding is there

[sick tusk]

Here is the most updated part for the attachable

[main quiver]

I have a theory. In mcpe the more cubes and pixels the worse the performance so I think it refuses to follow the hand because of it (testing with a mehs instead of cubes makes it work...)

[sick tusk]

Ok 👍

[main quiver]

test it (you would need to redo the texture in 2d for it -> right now it is a picture from blockbench and 512x512 pixels should be enough)

[sick tusk]

wait hopw did you turn it into a texture mesh

wait nevermind i understand it now

[sick tusk]

nope i got it wrong how do you make a texture mesh

[main quiver]

In blockbench the 3d texture or copy the code from the geometry

[sick tusk]

I did it came out an flat square with the texture laid out

[main quiver]

yeah, you won't see the square in game and only the texture...

[sick tusk]

No I copied the geometry from yours and put the texture

[main quiver]

and did you adjust the picture (the sides are partially transparent because there are partially transparent pixels at the side...)

then it should do the same as the vanilla item without the attachable for 16x16 textures

[sick tusk]

I'ma try that hol up