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[craggy yacht]

The nether update imo was the perfect update

[plucky scarab]

True

I like that the nether update actually all feels like it's based on what the nether already had

There isn't a feature that feels out of place.

Plus all the balancing is done well.

Which is rare for Minecraft

[lime lynx]

Hold up

We can finally add keybinds?

[nimble cedar]

no

its just shortcuts to run commands

well, maybe you can create a macro to trigger a function or a custom command for a mechanic?

it requires holding the alt key though

shouldnt be used for that

[obtuse shore]

not quite there yet

[cold burrow]

thats why there should be a part II with all the cut content

there was an interview somewhere that revealed that half of the original nether update went back into the ideas library

allay is an example

[nimble cedar]

we need an end update man

[jolly shell]

bro having the internals is amazing

[dense wadi]

not when i only want to see my packs

[dire rapids]

Thanks mojang for EntityHurtBeforeEvent now i want EntityDropItemBeforeEvent

[jolly shell]

Would that just be EntitySpawnAfterEvent, and then if it is an item, Entity.prototype.remove to despawn it‽

[raven raptor]

Guys

I didn’t see anyone mention this but trident drowns now match Java

Wtf Mojang

Can you do SOMETHING good for bedrock parody wise? How is it this hard?

[jolly shell]

in what way

how were they different

[raven raptor]

They spawned with tridents way more on bedrock

[jolly shell]

ah

[raven raptor]

Which maybe it way easier to get them

[jolly shell]

well depending on your situation this could be a good change

[raven raptor]

It was like 20% on bedrock and 2% of Java

[dense wadi]

That's something I had mentioned too lol

Could we maybe get an update to the debugText renderer to possibly make it client sided!? 👀 🤔

Or some more before events 😃

[forest trench]

Whats your use case?

[dense wadi]

There would be so many use cases.. mainly outside of addons

Some would simply be player stats, waypoints, etc.

Leaderboards would be a main one

Where you might want to include their current earned xp for an event on said leaderboard or whatever

[cold burrow]

adding it to the list of countless downgrades in the name of “parity”

pretty sure the grow stages of horses and donkeys are written to be gone

it’ll supposedly just go from baby to adult stage, no in between

don’t even get me started on the fun bugs being fixed

[glass zenith]

idk if it was mentioned officially but i think the grow stage of horses being removed has a reason

you can only tell if the horse is fully grown up by feeding them and seeing if theyre in 'fed' state or by manually attempting to ride after every single feed

which can be inconvenient

[cold burrow]

i feel like that’s so minor though

[glass zenith]

in my experience i find jumping from baby to adult stage more intuitive

it is a neat detail tho

uh

was

[cold burrow]

when it said “matching java edition” it gives off parity vibes

maybe it streamlines it but it takes away charm

and surely after a couple horses someone would be able to tell

[tame panther]

I mean it's still called debug renderer

[cyan sentinel]

I never realised that the component that did scale by age was for horses XD i just used it cause it was cool lol

[dense wadi]

Well that could also mean it should only be displayed to certain players, no?

It could be displayed to operators only but at that point you may as well make it per player.

[jolly shell]

Oh yeah, the Fire Aspect enchantment books lighting candles, creepers, and TNT.

[glass zenith]

wasnt that an intended feature?

[civic pulsar]

its an intended feature for things with fire aspect to do that

but its a bit weird for the books themselves to

[olive garden]

I think someone at mojang made an oopsie

[forest trench]

Internally it is called 1.26

[plucky scarab]

1.26 is better

Consistent with past updates, gets the same point across.

[forest trench]

Overly cautious with consistency is what leads to stagnation.

[cerulean halo]

sure but it's the name of an update that was being changed for consistency and readability and within the first update it ran into the exact same problems that occurred with the previous version naming

[plucky scarab]

Sure, but i don't think putting a 1 there has any downsides but does maintain naming consistency

[forest trench]

If they got rid of the one entirely even internally it would be much mroe beneficial.

You can have Year.Drop.(Minor)(Hotfix)

But since they still use the 1., they can't use the 3rd octet hence 26.10

[vale nexus]

Why didn't they just put 1.26 for everything?

[plucky scarab]

I don't think they'd do the .minor anyway

Because that's always either 0 or 1

[forest trench]

Bedrock literally has them what

[plucky scarab]

Bedrock has 26.drop/minor.hotfix

[forest trench]

Hang on im in the middle of a clash royale game.

[plucky scarab]

Right?

I know bedrock has minor updates

[forest trench]

No.

[plucky scarab]

No??

Hows it work then im confused

[forest trench]

You are arguing on something that you're not all that informed on.

[plucky scarab]

Oh right hotfix is also 1 at the end

[forest trench]

Bedrock cannot use the 3rd octet

[plucky scarab]

No separate .

[forest trench]

It is 26.10 or 26.11

there is no 26.10.1

[plucky scarab]

Right

[forest trench]

This is because it gets translated to 1.26.10

If they dropped the 1, this can be solved.

[plucky scarab]

I'm not used to the new system yet :<

[forest trench]

It will fix the versioning disparity.

[forest trench]

Then learn it before continuing to push back on insisting to use 1.XX

[tough ledge]

java versioning good

[hollow crystal]

when are they fixed?

[somber anvil]

lmfao

[vale nexus]

Starting with this update, will custom component of item only work in format version 1.26.0+?

I tried using versions 1.21.130 to 1.21.90, which was the minimum version for custom component v2, but it generated an error. When I used version 1.26.0, it worked.

[vale nexus]

This is only happening with items; it has worked with blocks since format version 1.21.90.

[willow light]

Seems like a bug to me.

[dense wadi]

are all json files supported for 1.26.0+? i never actually tested it. like if i change every file in my packs to be of format version 1.26.0 will something end up failing?

[vale nexus]

It depends on the version it's currently running; if there have been any changes, it could cause problems.

[unborn crystal]

that will probably break something
there are loads of files that only have a few valid format versions like texture sets which can only be 1.16.100 or 1.21.30

[dense wadi]

thanks, that's what i was curious about if some of them had a fixed latest version or something

[vale nexus]

I also believe it's a bug; it doesn't make sense that they made that change.

[low arch]

Command macros? Does that mean we have the possibility of using it for custom keybinds...?

[vale nexus]

I don't think so

[austere fjord]

Not really

Unless you want said keybind to require Alt + some other key

[crisp linden]

When I heard about command macros, I thought they added Java's function macros. 😔

[lime lynx]

Me too 💔

[ivory cairn]

but its still cool, only sad thing is that you can not bind same keys that you already use even if its prefixed by alt

[hollow crystal]

how does it work on mobile version?

[ivory cairn]

idk, tell me

[late quiver]

It doesn't. It's keyboard only

[craggy yacht]

You can use third party apps and map it to a button

If the code for it is in the mobile build? But i don't see why not

[untold crane]

please mojang add a way to get world seed

[minor raptor]

me when MUI:

[lime lynx]

You already can…

[untold crane]

how?

I didnt find anything in scripting docs

[lime lynx]

Ohh

I was talking about the one in the menu

Mb gng

Wasnt familiar with your game

[dreamy swallow]

Where are the end rings java bug, broken skeleton animations java bug, broken flowers bug, java lags, broken fishing rod in java edition?

You forgot to ment them

[hollow crystal]

that are features

https://youtu.be/Ncmt_3JjNwE?si=OBupnRb_3ewHTWHP

bugrock is unplayable game

[dreamy swallow]

They aren't feature, they are bugs

[dreamy swallow]

If you use 1.21.124, it is playable

[azure panther]

"I use a clickbait youtuber as my source"

[mellow valley]

is he wrong though?

having a big "browse addons!" button but a tiny settings button in the pause menu is silly

and there are random annoying bugs that players just have to deal with

[mellow valley]

toycat's video on the subject is better

too bad it's an hour long

[plucky scarab]

i mean, both types are needed. Bedrock is not in a good state at the moment and attention does need to be brought to that.

like, yeah, that browse add-ons! button is just terrible.

[unborn crystal]

I really hate what they're doing with the UIs, they come up with a great design and then ruin it e.g. by removing the world templates button that was in the play screen prototypes

[plucky scarab]

there's a lot of bugs that go unfixed for too long. There's overall UI issues now with the randomly added padding. The marketplace has its own list of problems from the UI not working to the content quality to the minecoin system issues that toycat talks about.

[plucky scarab]

yeah, i hate that big ad that you get instead. If it at least defaulted to "content you own" it'd maybe be a little excusable but no, they want it to be shoving the marketplace in your face so it defaults to the one that means you spend more money.

and the problem is these issues with bedrock just aren't talked about enough, which might lead to Mojang thinking "they're not that important to fix, let's add another marketplace button"

when Java players have even a small change they dislike, you can be sure Mojang will be hearing about it non-stop for months.

[sudden geyser]

imo bedrock getting new ui-s is just like: 50% good ui 50% bad ui

[plucky scarab]

I don't like Ore UI because it means they get to shove more ads in your face without you being able to disable them with a resource pack.

and it seems like the customizable UI will be the gameplay ones, not the menus that have the ads.

[late quiver]

In theory you could mod it out by modifying the ore ui files

much easier to do now with GDK

[plucky scarab]

yeah, but still way less convenient than a resource pack

and not possible on all platforms

[late quiver]

I still haven't forgiven them for this

[plucky scarab]

and we shouldn't.

they intentionally chose the more anti-consumer option

It's not good for any game for people to just accept every change even if it's clearly one that hurts the experience.

[sudden geyser]

i belive they will make menu ones customaisable (probaly copium), but they probaly want to test ddui out with gameplay screens before due to these being less complex

[plucky scarab]

hopefully, but after the "Browse Add-Ons!" situation i feel like they get less benefit of the doubt.

[unborn crystal]

I hope they at least implement ddui's scaling and text rendering to other screens since the scaling on out of game screens is quite bad currently

Although ddui still doesn't have perfect scaling

[plucky scarab]

there's no way they didn't think "Hey, do you think maybe settings is more important than a 20th marketplace button?"

[forest trench]

Anyone have any issue where q.property doesn't work in animations/ac now?

[raven raptor]

Bedrock ui design is: how many options to buy stuff can we shove in your face before you get to what you want to do

Next time it’s gonna be a marketplace button in the settings

[cyan sentinel]

Yoooo great idea let me tell my Microsoft contact /jk

[raven raptor]

Real

[late quiver]

The only problem I have is the create new world screen. Everything else is non-intrusive

[raven raptor]

I would say the pause screen one is pretty intrusive as well being that it’s a dark pattern and making a actually useful button smaller then the useless one

[ivory cairn]

1.21.130 this week?

[forest trench]

Tomorrow.

[ivory cairn]

Sounds good

[cerulean halo]

thats mounts and mayhem right?

[plucky scarab]

yeah

[civic pulsar]

damn i thought 26.0 was mounts of mayhem fsr

[merry crest]

Has anyone observed any issues with minecraft:redstone_consumer?

[vale nexus]

I didn't have much time to test it, so no.

[wide pumice]

Not to my knowledge no

[dreamy swallow]

Haven't tested that yet(

[mellow valley]

the feedback page used to have this image

probably a mockup but it's funny that the marketplace button was tiny at some point

somewhere along the design process someone came in and went "money money money"

[tranquil eagle]

rest in peace 1.x series

you wont be remembered

[late quiver]

He will live on in format versions and app stores

[tranquil eagle]

😭

[forest trench]

💀

I just realised

They made changes to the 1.21.130 folder

[austere fjord]

Massive increase to the client entity format version

[nimble cedar]

idk if you missed it, but check the newest preview out

[untold crane]

yesss I saw it! finallyy

thank you mojang!!

[vale nexus]

They read your messages.

[vale nexus]

It wasn't mentioned, but custom armor now displays its armor value in the tooltip, just like vanilla armor.

[raven raptor]

Peak

[obtuse mason]

So like

is there docs on minecraft:redstone_consumer anywhere?

[unborn crystal]

it's still experimental so there aren't any proper docs yet but this exists https://wiki.bedrock.dev/blocks/block-format-history#components-1

[obtuse mason]

Awww I was hoping that there'd be a way to redirect redstone wires with this :c

[fluid shell]

When does this preview gonna be released?

[forest trench]

Wdym? It did release but we're on a new preview now.

[fluid shell]

No I mean stable release

[raven raptor]

Next year, probably January

[blissful forge]

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