🍌 Preview 1.21.130.26

[unkempt falcon]

FIRST

[pure copper]

about time

[smoky rampart]

hai :3

[jolly robin]

bork

[neat pond]

ok

[pulsar parcel]

Oh my God...

[verbal zinc]

first

[orchid locust]

3050th

[swift night]

LEPGOO

First

FIFUUFFIUFUFFUFUFUUF TICKING AREAS

[nocturne granite]

yay
so no more grey water probably

[pure copper]

gentle pigs

[swift night]

custom fences.

[verbal zinc]

minecraft:collision_box" height is extended to 24 when using a format version of 1.21.130 or higher and the Upcoming Creator Features toggle is enabled

I am happy

[uneven kite]

I'm not

guess it's another weak of not working on RuneCraft

[verbal zinc]

Oh shit

"minecraft:collision_box" now supports arrays of boxes when using a format version of 1.21.130 or higher and the Upcoming Creator Features toggle is enabled
yay!!

I am so so happy!! :D

[jolly robin]

This looks very confusing to me but that's windows fixes all right.

[rotund sage]

thats huge

[unkempt falcon]

What's that? 👀

[rare violet]

lets goooo ticking area apis!!!

[swift night]

Yesss lesgo

[umbral raven]

Nothing really interesting for me

[swift night]

Custom fences not interesting?

[lament light]

I love you, Mojang:

/structure and /place commands and StructureManager API Place function now trigger onBreak beta API event for custom blocks when overridden

[umbral raven]

Not at all as I'm not a addon creator but a resource pack creator

[rare violet]

still limited tho aaaaa i want unlimited usages

[glacial prism]

yay

[pulsar parcel]

Yeah, it's a good day to be a creator.

[bold ice]

I forgot preview was today

[swift night]

They can be now unjumpable as collision box heieght can be increased now

[vestal root]

Wait
Array of boxes?

[nocturne granite]

🔥

[obsidian owl]

But now dont we need an actual break event? Im curious how they'd separate them

[proud glen]

tickingAreaManager is my favorite

[haughty hinge]

Happy preview day

[jolly robin]

the JSON-UI revert is nowhere to be seen, my disappointment is inevitable. and my day is ruined.

[pulsar parcel]

Yes.

[jolly robin]

:(

[pulsar parcel]

Yesss..

@pale lance

[swift night]

Does that mean the /reload all is fixed as the issue kaioga faced

[haughty hinge]

Wait? Coral Zombie Nautilus is a thing?

[umbral raven]

yes

[pulsar parcel]

Today's snapshot.

Someone is a fake MC fan.

[haughty hinge]

I haven't looked at todays snapshot yet

[pulsar parcel]

https://tenor.com/view/not-very-woke-of-you-nuh-uh-homelander-gen-v-the-boys-gif-5949428463441363002

[slender wharf]

nice preview

[slim surge]

Are custom stairs a thing now

[pulsar parcel]

Yes.

[haughty hinge]

😢 I have school yk

[slim surge]

Cool

[pulsar parcel]

Custom stairs and custom fences are now fully recreateable.

[obsidian owl]

No selection yet

[pulsar parcel]

Ok...no need to flex on my dumb ass.

[slim surge]

We can make wood sets now and it’s not impossible!

[pulsar parcel]

Isn't it a solid block?

Or is that Java only.

[pulsar parcel]

Wrong.

Doors

[verbal zinc]

I kinda doubt they do that for selection boxes, but who knows

[obsidian owl]

No, its a stair shape on both

On bedrock it has a full outline but the actual shape is different

[slim surge]

Well we can already make that with scripting and it’s not incredibly hard to my understanding

[pulsar parcel]

So what are you talking about then?

[obsidian owl]

Multi selection boxes?

Like stairs

[candid lynx]

crazy amount of ui updates, this surely means we get new oreui stuff

[pulsar parcel]

You're not talking about the outline then.

You're talking about the actual selection.

[obsidian owl]

That's what i said

[slender wharf]

the selection outline for stairs is full block

[pulsar parcel]

I'm just clarifying then.

[proud glen]

I wonder if I can run a callback on load a la /schedule

[slender wharf]

oh actual selection

[pulsar parcel]

Sorry, anything you want to do is not possible. It's in the contract. Mojang has to wait 3 years before implementing it.

[haughty hinge]

https://tenor.com/view/upgrades-robots-gif-21291099

[proud glen]

😶

[lament light]

Does anyone know what was wrong with ambient_occlusion?

[unique trout]

From my experience, it did not work at all.

[barren pollen]

alr another week another preview.

what's the new goodies this time?

[pulsar parcel]

Jokes aside, what are you trying to achieve? I don't really mess with schedule or ticking areas so I'm curious.

[frosty escarp]

what does this mean?
"minecraft:collision_box" now supports arrays of boxes when using a format version of 1.21.130 or higher and the Upcoming Creator Features toggle is enabled

[haughty hinge]

Anyone can check?

[lament light]

Multi-collision, like with stairs

[winged fable]

Fist

[slender wharf]

block multi-collision and ticking area script method

[barren pollen]

oof. creator features alr

[verbal zinc]

I am so happy multi-collision is a thing now :3

[slender wharf]

oh, what did you care about outside of that then

[frosty escarp]

So now we can have hitboxes that aren't just a single cube, ain't it?

[lament light]

Yeah

[frosty escarp]

amazing

[lament light]

I no longer have to squish and then stretch my fences and walls!

[verbal zinc]

Same!! :3

[slender wharf]

how many collision boxes can you have

[verbal zinc]

Good question

[pulsar parcel]

I wonder if they're going to fix the issue with transformation extending the selection box outside the range now

[lament light]

I think we could cover all Vanilla situations if that number is at least 5.

[pulsar parcel]

When in doubt, use powers of 2.

[rapid stone]

whats new

[honest harness]

I AM SOOOO HAPPY!!!

[slender wharf]

multi-collision

and a script method for ticking area

[pulsar parcel]

Oh what is this?

[frosty escarp]

ig we can make hollow blocks with collisions similar to cauldrons

I've been waiting for this

lol

[slender wharf]

yup

[frosty escarp]

WAIT

[pulsar parcel]

Light absorption in water has been changed from 2 to 1 units, to match Java Edition
Wait....I thought the parity was the other way around?

[frosty escarp]

single-block vents system for maps

[unique trout]

Literally same here

[frosty escarp]

so you just crawl inside the block

[empty otter]

anything fun this week?

[slender wharf]

i guess yeah

[slender wharf]

multi-collision for blocks

[empty otter]

waow

[barren pollen]

i thought this would be a small beta but dang you guys nailed it

[slender wharf]

its kinda small

[pale lance]

YESSSS

[pale lance]

My feature request 🙏

[pulsar parcel]

I guess size is relative.

[barren pollen]

some important and much needed fixes have been implemented in this beta as per changelog

[slender wharf]

lol

[candid lynx]

yooo this is finally fixed

[slender wharf]

what is

[candid lynx]

it didnt show icon before

[empty otter]

I feel like the spear is way too underpowered for something this close to release. The jab attack specifically. It's so bad :<

[slender wharf]

hm

[slender wharf]

make an addon that upgrades it

[empty otter]

the damage is low, and the cooldowns get slower with each tier so even at its best at netherite spear, you're better off with a wooden sword

[frosty escarp]

i think it is related to this #1067876948858118185 message

[slender wharf]

hopefully

theres also an issue where blocks look dim

[pulsar parcel]

http://assets1.xboxlive.com/6/05fe140b-9d00-4bb0-9379-6060a7d87bbf/98bd2335-9b01-4e4c-bd05-ccc01614078b/1.21.13026.0.e828de77-9716-42fe-81c5-a8449db51397/Microsoft.MinecraftWindowsBeta_1.21.13026.0_x64__8wekyb3d8bbwe.msixvc

[slender wharf]

security risk ahead

[candid lynx]

yep keybidn screen is next on oreui

[lament light]

Do you have any idea how big a deal that would be?

[proud glen]

My map has a ton of entities placed around. Decorations, mobs, etc.
I prefer having all of these entities declared with code.
If they only existed in the world, then they wouldn't update when I changed behavior files (e.g. changing max health), and might wander off or whatever.
So I prefer to list them with code, and wipe/summon them all before testing/shipping the map.
So to perform this, I have to load every area in the map, wipe the existing entities there, and place fresh new ones.
So I made a system that does this. To work around the 10-tickingarea limit, I wrapped the command with a scripting queue that waits to create areas until other ones have completed and are removed.
There are several necessary annoyances to this system but one big one is that I must use a literal schedule command and actual function file in my pack to detect when the area is loaded, spawn my mobs and remove the area. Obviously bouncing between scripting and commands is tedious.

[rapid stone]

interesting

also, multi collision?

[frosty escarp]

not tbh, I'm not really into making blocks lol

[slender wharf]

multiple block collision boxes

[glacial prism]

yay update out on windows

[umbral raven]

YO BEDROCK ONE IS MUCH BETTER

[rapid stone]

i wonder how itd interact with AABB in api then?

[lament light]

If anyone with the update could test out the ambient occlusion thing for me, that'd be swell.

[glacial prism]

bedrock

[slender wharf]

do blocks have aabb in script? i thought it was only entities

[rapid stone]

oh wait

sorry

brainfard 😭

[glacial prism]

[frosty escarp]

why couldn't they just use the same texture

[azure thorn]

Blocks with complex hitbox?

[grave spruce]

Fixed "ambient_occlusion" field in "minecraft:material_instances" block component

Was it really fixed or is it just another little white lie?

[azure thorn]

Lets goo

[rapid stone]

seems like it

[slender wharf]

lol

[umbral raven]

java is prob outdated

[slender wharf]

yes

[azure thorn]

Has someone already tested it?

[frosty escarp]

do you have a pic of the new zombie nautilus variant?

[rapid stone]

no idea, the preview just came out

[frosty escarp]

I'm not at home to check it by myself

[slender wharf]

so unplayable

uninstalling java rn

[pulsar parcel]

Whoops, added https instead of http instead.

[rapid stone]

im assuming they were still working on the textures when they put it into java edition

[neat pond]

Dark Title bar

[azure thorn]

What’s the difference between them?

[glacial prism]

oh yeah

[jolly robin]

yeah it is mentioned on the changelog.

[grave spruce]

?

[jolly robin]

i assume they're fixing up GDK or something.

[barren pollen]

it will just probably adapt to the color theme of the system.

[barren pollen]

obviously. quality of life features.

[pulsar parcel]

lol the panorama is backwards again.

[rapid stone]

have they reverted the ui change in previous preview btw

[jolly robin]

No.

[rapid stone]

wow

yall cooked 😭

[unkempt falcon]

Looks like worlds in the shared folder no longer work when you are not logged in

[jolly robin]

Yeah sadly this might be a permanent thing

[glacial prism]

i never noticed this, but i guess the sun just disappears underwater lol

[candid lynx]

New keyboard and mouse settings

[barren belfry]

https://tenor.com/view/yess-yes-gif-25420589

[barren pollen]

NOOOOOO

[rapid stone]

wouldnt this be seriously bad when it comes to contents in marketplace?

[barren belfry]

But there is 1 tensy weensy problem

[pulsar parcel]

@unkempt falcon 👀 ?

[jolly robin]

Unfortunately, everything. from marketplace to featured servers.

[frail musk]

nice multi collision

[barren belfry]

Every block id want to use this with uses faceLocation stuff

[rapid stone]

yeah i really doubt this is gonna be permanent

[jolly robin]

they'll crash on launch or you know

doesn't work.

[barren belfry]

So I can't actually update the blocks

[rapid stone]

otherwise theyd practically ruin the entirety of experience

[unkempt falcon]

Hmm

[jolly robin]

but if they're using custom bars like soulsteel, yeah it will crash.

[rapid stone]

regardless of whether youre an UI dev or not

[pulsar parcel]

Changelog or not? I see the files change

[unkempt falcon]

Is that some kind of performance profiler related file?

[neat pond]

I like the panorama because it is "dark"

[glacial prism]

Exactly lol

[candid lynx]

nope just in files

[jolly robin]

same, but it doesn't seem that way so far.

[verbal zinc]

Do we have an idea of how the multi-collision stuff looks in JSON?

[barren pollen]

messing with the treatment file thingy again. right?

[lament light]

Should be an array of objects

[honest harness]

i think just like a normal array rlly

[candid lynx]

yeah

[verbal zinc]

Got it!

[grave spruce]

A basic example would be helpful.

[lament light]

On phone

I don’t even have the Preview; I’m just guessing.

[pulsar parcel]

Check the custom hit test from entities 🤪

[verbal zinc]

Fair enough LOL

Eh, we'll figure it out eventually

[pulsar parcel]

Why are you downvoting me I'm right.

[barren belfry]

Can anybody see if Ambient_occlusion is fixed

[pulsar parcel]

Check how?

[barren belfry]

Also any mojangster here yet

[lament light]

Use a cross geometry with a transformation offset

[barren belfry]

Wait is the update not out?

[pulsar parcel]

It is, but you're not giving any steps to check how.

[pulsar parcel]

So it's referring to blocks being black when intersecting or?

[barren belfry]

I thought it affected literally any custome block

[lament light]

Maybe! That’s what I want to know.

[barren belfry]

That's my experience at least, every custom block i made is darker than vanilla ones

[lament light]

Right now, the random offset component is useless due to the black shading bug.

[neat pond]

I just realized something, why is the point light quality option below the reflection quality option?

[lament light]

Noooooo!

[lament light]

(I wonder what was fixed then.)

[candid lynx]

what if the fix was the friends we made along the way

[lament light]

We still don't have mob events in scripting, do we?

I honestly think they should scrap that system and move it to game rules.

[pulsar parcel]

Testing the collision.

[lament light]

Find out the limit.

[pulsar parcel]

Wdym?

YES

[lament light]

Use the command.

[pulsar parcel]

COLLISION BOX WORKS

[pulsar parcel]

Oh that hting.

[barren belfry]

https://tenor.com/view/dark-meme-tiktok-trend-khaby-mechanism-khaby-lame-mechanism-gif-14013412814055246026

[rain sphinx]

Yeah that's a weird system imo

[rain sphinx]

Are custom stairs missing anything else?

[grave spruce]

Apparently, they made the same correction as always.

[pulsar parcel]

Selection box.

[rain sphinx]

Is that not just a 16x16x16 box?

[wary lagoon]

.

[barren belfry]

Can someone test the 24 height collision_box

[pulsar parcel]

Me when math.

[grave spruce]

Does this work for half the blocks?

[grave spruce]

For example, does each part represent a half?

[pulsar parcel]

Testing right now.

[rain sphinx]

What

[glossy swallow]

what is "Block Precipitations Interactions component"

[rapid stone]

wait this makes me wonder

[grave spruce]

Do not let snow accumulate in clumps.

[glossy swallow]

ah

[rapid stone]

doesnt stairs rapidly consume hunger?

[rain sphinx]

For rain and snow. Last I heard though it was kinda useless since the fields were seemingly identical

[grave spruce]

Like doors and plants

[rapid stone]

when youre sprinting/jumping to go up

[candid lynx]

textures are your passion i see

[grave spruce]

All that's missing is the snowlogging.

[pulsar parcel]

How are you seeing it as a 16x16?

[glossy swallow]

yeah i know that component, the name is hard to remember

[lament light]

They are not.

[pulsar parcel]

24 height

FUCK WHERE IS THE VIDEO

[rain sphinx]

Is it not the same size as a regular block?

[rain sphinx]

Oh? What's different about them

[pulsar parcel]

Like I said...math. You didn't do the math right. It's half slab + the half half slab

[rain sphinx]

I don't follow

[pulsar parcel]

Oh you are referring to the selection box not my code.

[wary lagoon]

it makes sense that we're getting this now, since we got the connection stuff

[pulsar parcel]

@rain sphinx

[barren belfry]

Liars

[rain sphinx]

^ Was responding to this but I can see where that went

[deft pivot]

lmao XD, swim bug

[rain sphinx]

What's the difference between the outline and "actual selection"

[grave spruce]

The only thing missing for stairs is the selection? If so, honestly, that's the least of our worries.

[rapid stone]

live animation reaction

[tulip stump]

It's Christmas already

[uneven kite]

how many decimal places can a collision box be?

[grave spruce]

He is tired so he is wiping his face.

[pulsar parcel]

You can't interact with the hole part of the stairs.

[rapid stone]

just a week away

woohoo

[wary lagoon]

mariah carey already defrosted

[tulip stump]

Christmas is celebrated at November 4

Around the entire globle

Cube *

[rain sphinx]

Ah right

[barren belfry]

Not fixed at all

[pulsar parcel]

Want me to test anything else or?

[barren belfry]

Also redstone_producer still doesn't update

[barren belfry]

Nope

[lament light]

https://tenor.com/view/oxi-clean-but-wait-theres-more-home-shopping-gif-9592017

[winged fable]

What if you place a carpet above it

[pulsar parcel]

Hehe.

[wary lagoon]

cool

[lament light]

Now set yourself on fire!

[winged fable]

What's the limit for the collision box array

[pulsar parcel]

Idk yet.

[rain sphinx]

I guess that makes sense

[winged fable]

I mean how mobs interact

[wary lagoon]

            "minecraft:collision_box": [
                {
                    "origin": [-8, 0, -8],
                    "size": [16, 3, 16]
                },
                {
                    "origin": [-8, 0, 6],
                    "size": [16, 16, 2]
                },
                {
                    "origin": [-8, 0, -8],
                    "size": [16, 16, 2]
                },
                {
                    "origin": [6, 0, -8],
                    "size": [2, 16, 16]
                },
                {
                    "origin": [-8, 0, -8],
                    "size": [2, 16, 16]
                }
            ]

that's what i used

and it works

[glossy swallow]

wait, this is cool
per pack ticking areas

[rain sphinx]

#1072983602821861426 when

[wary lagoon]

connection component works with up and down?

i didn't test it yet

[lament light]

I know they're unpopular, but I'm surprised no one's talking about has_item_with_component. That's kinda a crazy entity filter.

[unique trout]

Once it’s perfect

[lament light]

That's currently more powerful than scripting.

[rain sphinx]

Yeah that's certainly not something I thought we'd ever get

[unique trout]

When vertical half is different?

[wary lagoon]

noo, like, vertical connections

[lament light]

I don't think it handles vertical connections.

[unique trout]

Yeah no it does not

[wary lagoon]

oh, that's sad

[barren belfry]

[rain sphinx]

Would be nice if it could

[unique trout]

I wanted to do that for custom redstone but sadly not possible

[wary lagoon]

yeah :/

[uneven kite]

what's the max number of collisions?

[winged fable]

Maybe if you use the transformation component

[wary lagoon]

some number above 5

[uneven kite]

guess I'll just update my preview

I might as well do another random fun test since I can't work on runecraft

time to cook I guess

[jolly robin]

i love microsoft store.

[lament light]

@glossy swallow, @rain sphinx, some notes on the precipitation interactions component:

[rain sphinx]

Ah okay. Thanks

[grave spruce]

Only snowlogging is missing.

[glossy swallow]

the docs are outdated

[forest vapor]

@/saltysean

I wonder if this means we can visually combine collision boxes now to give the illusion of a block with the height of 2 blocks?

[lament light]

Don't ever rely on those.

[rain sphinx]

Are your one's public?

[pulsar parcel]

You can ping me. But I haven't tested.

[forest vapor]

Alright that would be so cool, can you ping me please if tested 🙏

[slim surge]

Yeah it’s nice

[proud glen]

This notion of per-pack stuff is getting more common and making me nauseous
Can't access dynamic properties of another pack. Can't access ticking areas of another pack. Can't register custom commands with different namespaces unless you use separate packs.

[glossy swallow]

seem like a plus to me
as a creator i don't want anyone missing with stuff my pack uses

[proud glen]

That's great until you realize vanilla is a pack we should all be able to mess with

[lament light]

https://tenor.com/view/gohine-hohino-no-hohineee-gohineee-gif-17792172174678204487

[glossy swallow]

idk, maybe they need to add a global dynamic property but i really don't want other packs using ones from mine

especially sense i don't use namespace there sometimes

[proud glen]

How can I serialize an item stack if it might have dynamic properties I'm not allowed to see?
These aren't protections, just restrictions. I can say I don't want other packs overriding my behavior files. Well, too bad, they can and should be able to.

[lament light]

Need a final modifier, haha.

I've actually found a number of places in the engine where I want more security from calls/changes. For example, I want to be able to flag entity events as private. I'd also like to be able to restrict which features are usable in place feature.

[glossy swallow]

you are talking about a specific use case here tho
is it a good idea to just make them global?

[proud glen]

Those ideas are fine with me
A file can establish boundaries, a pack should not IMO

It's just like can_summon

[barren belfry]

I really like the new collision_box changes but the problem is that a lot of the blocks I would use complex collision_boxes with also use faceLocation in some significant way

Aka

[brave flax]

definitely hyped for the new collision stuff, i really hope there's no limits on them

[quartz perch]

Happy Preview Day

[grave spruce]

Very happy kayla

[pulsar parcel]

Does registering the same collision box output content log...imma check.

[barren belfry]

I can't update the block format to 1.21.130, because then I would have to use custom components V2, and that would require minecraft/server of 2.0.0+ and then faceLocation shits itself and breaks entirely

[slender wharf]

[barren belfry]

[barren belfry]

https://tenor.com/view/dog-crying-meme-doggo-crys-megan-soo-crying-dog-gif-5276199764143986284

[brave flax]

didn't someone create a method which "fixes" the output of faceLocation?

[quartz perch]

Well now there will be! 😂

[brave flax]

day ruined 🥺

[brave flax]

#1395953373274050652 message

[barren belfry]

That doesn't work half the time

[brave flax]

oh really

i'm sure if you work out all the edge cases you can get it working

[quartz perch]

You did it to yourself!!!

[brave flax]

but yeah i avoided updating to scripting 2.0 in my addon because i didn't want to deal with the facelocation change

[brave flax]

as long as the limit is >= 4096 i'll be happy 😄

[subtle shore]

How tf yall got the new video/keyboard settings stuff already?! Still aint got anything 😭

Does it only roll out to certain people?

[lament light]

https://tenor.com/view/no-oh-the-horror-mortified-no-no-no-my-name-is-earl-gif-5376630

[brave flax]

most likely is a/b tested like every other ore ui screen whilst they're still working on them

[glossy swallow]

they forgot to add padding to the ore ui one btw, i am reporting a bug

[pulsar parcel]

https://tenor.com/view/mean-girls-lindsay-lohan-the-limit-does-not-exist-math-no-limit-gif-3546827

[silver wind]

does the collision change also apply to the selection box or?

[pulsar parcel]

No.

[silver wind]

:(

[subtle shore]

Well now I'm confused on if I'm just somehow missing them cause this update it literally stated that this was changed to "Chat Instructions on Join"

Still the old message though 😭

[obsidian owl]

It can take a few previews for translations to be updated (including English (UK))

A lot of the time those lines in the changelog only apply to en_US

[subtle shore]

oh it is uk 💀

bruh lmao

haha

no one cares about us brits 😭

[ashen ether]

Happy preview 🙂

[slim surge]

Best preview since 1.21.50.26

[empty otter]

i wonder how many previews for 130 we have left then?

[candid lynx]

People force enable it, it's not eliagble to rollut currnetly if i understand correctly

[barren belfry]

I should probably make a report for both redstone_conductivity and redstone_producer not updating correctly

[slim surge]

Now we need MCPE-100217 to be fixed

[ashen ether]

No more breaking blocks unless its with a pickaxe. (Can you post/DM me the block json you made to cause this?)

[slim surge]

It’s the bug where fletcher huts don’t spawn in plains villages and masons don’t spawn in savanna villages along with some accessory features in taiga’s, savanna’s, and plains

[empty otter]

oh odd
yeah hopefully they fix that, thats annoying. But then, they still haven't even added the trial chamber encounter rooms, right?

I think they should like
fix MCPE-230030 (series S reflection issue)

pleas i left the fix in the bug report

[lament light]

Oh, I wanted to throw in that this longstanding custom block bug completely prohibits us from using the random offset component to mimic Vanilla grass-like behavior. Which is terrible if you're making custom biomes.

[proud glen]

Why does this option even exist let alone get set to enabled by default

[lament light]

For context, short grass in Vanilla uses a random offset that should be something like:

"minecraft:random_offset": {
    "x": {"range": {"min": -4, "max": 4}, "steps": 16},
    "z": {"range": {"min": -4, "max": 4}, "steps": 16},
    "y": {"range": {"min": -0.609375, "max": 0}, "steps": 26}
}

[pulsar parcel]

On my way to have 16 collisions now. testing right now

[grave spruce]

Really

[lament light]

Just write a script to generate an array of 4,097 boxes with random values…

[obsidian owl]

it also means that (less noticeably most of the time) all custom blocks are darker than vanilla blocks that are otherwise identical when smooth lighting is enabled

[pulsar parcel]

Cool, registering the same boxes doesn't throw any error.

[lament light]

Oh, don't get me started. God forbid out modeler inset a plane 0.01 pixels into the side of a wall.

Also, we had to make our leaves non-conformant gameplay-wise with Vanilla. Vanilla leaves occlude the light by +1. Because custom blocks with non-opaque rendering can't cast ambient occlusion, we had to up that value a bit to make it look right.

[limber stratus]

The Update would be perfect, if we got a before player hit entity event. But this preview is fire

[barren belfry]

I just had to deal with this bs last night

https://tenor.com/view/piss-nuke-piss-nuke-tutorial-truth-nuke-true-true-morgan-freeman-gif-1990497734463688507

[slim surge]

Yeah, I think we are still missing encounters

[pulsar parcel]

NOOOO

There is a limit @lament light

[pulsar parcel]

@quartz perch I'm guessing next week or so we'll get a better content log?

[brave flax]

i love the maximum of {}

how many collisions did you try?

[pulsar parcel]

32

[brave flax]

hmm

i mean it sounds reasonable in a way

[pulsar parcel]

The max is 16

The max collision box entries is 16.

[obsidian owl]

nooo we can't make sphere collisions

[empty otter]

anything can be a sphere if you believe in yourself

[grave spruce]

But at 16 you can already do a lot, right?

[brave flax]

hmm 16 is quite limiting

[barren belfry]

Yeah you can

You can just have rectangular collision boxes intersecting each other

[pulsar parcel]

Not enough to make a almost perfect sphere

[barren belfry]

That would take a lot

[pulsar parcel]

Hence...why Quaz said we can't.

[pulsar parcel]

Now im confused what voxel shapres are.

Will it litrally be presets we make and that applies to all blocks using it.

[fast rivet]

how u getting this 1.21.130 beta ? cant download it ?

[proud glen]

I wonder what the most complex vanilla block collision is. Cauldron? I think with the bottom, 4 sides, and feet, it has 9 cubes. But if the feet were more precise, it could be 13

[slender wharf]

or composter yeah

[pulsar parcel]

The feet are separate?

[proud glen]

Can't test now but I'm pretty confident the feet have separate collision in java, less confident about bedrock

[stable lake]

16 is fair enough

I dont know if 24 px collision box size is enough but better than 16

32 is reasonable enough, 2 blocks

[pulsar parcel]

What do you need more for?

[stable lake]

hmm double blocks?

[pulsar parcel]

Those are two separate blocks.

[stable lake]

Hmm, yes, on second thought, yes

xd

yeah 24 is fair enough

[proud glen]

We need 10000 separate boxes to create the BP equivalent of lagfox

[pulsar parcel]

lag what?

[cunning plaza]

Wait

They fixed the icon

Finally

[uneven kite]

nvm I will not do something funny after all

I was going to make a maze out of a single block

[proud glen]

I could imagine hitting 16 by trying to make a triangular slope block

[pulsar parcel]

brb.

[pulsar parcel]

Here you go.

[barren belfry]

Could you slide a brotha the json file

[barren belfry]

Thanks

[knotty crystal]

Can we do 2 16 height boxes to get a height of 32?

[proud glen]

Haha cool! Nice job.
Model next? 😜

[knotty crystal]

or is the overall collision limited to 24

[pulsar parcel]

Will test that.

[pulsar parcel]

Im getting there

[fast rivet]

yo how do you acces the minecraft files now ??

i cant find my worlds or anything ?

[proud glen]

I wonder if you can make the slope look smooth with some rotation trick

[orchid locust]

oh damn

[pulsar parcel]

CIci go away

[orchid locust]

we got triangles that actually work as a slop now

[knotty crystal]

slop

[fast rivet]

dm found the files ?

how come they have changed it to two loactions in two seperate files ?

[barren belfry]

Man this is so frustrating

[orchid locust]

I meant slope , 😭 , dang it

[pulsar parcel]

Slope isn't fully foolproof.

[glossy swallow]

huh, what did i miss?
how are the items moving

[pulsar parcel]

Multi collision box

[knotty crystal]

Ehh wth is a data driven renderer??

[glossy swallow]

uh...

[slender wharf]

you can have more than 1 collision box for a block now

[fast rivet]

finally

[subtle shore]

damn even that block at the end was shocked it disappeared 💀

[glossy swallow]

i know, but how does that move the item
or does it just keep it velocity and slide down

[pulsar parcel]

It's a bit buggy.

[glossy swallow]

you are throwing the items in the opposite side in the end of the video, so it is not a velocity thing

[fast rivet]

all we need now is the selection box

[glossy swallow]

even vanilla blocks need that

[winged fable]

Fr

[subtle shore]

anyone got a custom stairs file i could get? 😭 pls 🙏

[pulsar parcel]

No.

You just have to wait or start making your own.

It's not that hard.

[dense jasper]

Let's go this is my favorite update

I don't know how to do add-ons but I sure do know addons are coming to the next level

[subtle shore]

wow... okay

i see how shit is here

no worries

[hollow vapor]

omg they fixed the command line box not being selected

goated update

[glossy swallow]

you are overreacting a bit
people post templates all the time, you just have to wait

[subtle shore]

nah im chilling

its all good

like i said.. no worries innit

[ebon stone]

Two joysticks

If ur on dpad it changes if its on camera_relative

[pulsar parcel]

So that's what it looks like.

[ebon stone]

Yeah

Left for movement right for rotation

[hot rivet]

that feels so cursed

side effect of collision resolving is that slopes actually work 😭

[hollow vapor]

Does the new multi collision stuff support stacking collision boxes ontop of eachother using permuations? I.e. say like a pipe block, for each direction it connects in, is it possible to add a collision box in that direction?

Or would every permutation have to be defined still?

[hot rivet]

spoke too soon, scrolled down and saw the jank

[hot rivet]

I'd assume you'd need a permutation for each collision set

afaik, no component merges like that

[hollow vapor]

ah rip

[hot rivet]

I think even custom components have an issue because of this

[knotty crystal]

Did anyone test this?

[pulsar parcel]

You cant exceed the limitations.

[fast rivet]

@pulsar parcel have you tried the transform component with it ?

[pulsar parcel]

Not yet but should work why?

[fast rivet]

Nowt just to see how it is with the multi collision

[lament light]

To be fair, nearly every new block feature ships with some amount of bugs. It's usually worth testing everything nowadays.

[grave spruce]

Are both for walking or is it something similar to playing with a controller?

[robust gull]

damn... i thought we will never have this feature.

functional stairs? functional fences? damn,,

my honest reaction: https://tenor.com/view/me-atrapaste-es-cine-its-cinema-cinema-esto-es-cine-gif-12869046600151364058

[ebon stone]

One is movement the other is rotation

But not camera rotation

The players rotation

[pulsar parcel]

Camera is still normal touch screen then yeah?

[ebon stone]

Yeah but it depends on the control scheme

[pulsar parcel]

Yerha of course.

[haughty hinge]

This happens with stairs as well. Not a block problem but rather how item entities work

Oh and brewing stands. They propel items like that as well

[pulsar parcel]

I see you and I raise you

[haughty hinge]

Haha

Try at coordinates like 40k or so

I bet it has to do with floating point accuracy

[rapid stone]

did it just launch you

[placid crest]

Hold on. WHAT?

I'm so late lol but still.

[rapid stone]

yes, multi collision

quite revolutionary

[pulsar parcel]

😘 Scroll up in this chat.

[wise sentinel]

16 btw

[placid crest]

That's so clean! Is there no limits to how many collision boxes one can add?

[haughty hinge]

The limit is 16

[pulsar parcel]

Check the pins.

[placid crest]

16, and it still produces an effect so smooth? That's amazing!

[placid crest]

Now, custom stairs can actually have proper collision.

[pulsar parcel]

Yes.

you shuold catch up on chat to not repeat questions or miss anything

[placid crest]

I know, just sat down from a busy day to find out there was a preview, so I'm still going through the changelog currently.

But man this is exciting!

It also just hit me that the increase to the height of the collision box will allow us to create proper fences without having to resort to bugs or another invisible block

[slender wharf]

yeah I saw, thank you though

[haughty hinge]

Sean made something like that: #1435308343202676880 message

[indigo whale]

wait... custom stair collision is possible now?!

[slim surge]

yeah

[unkempt falcon]

Next week, next cycle?

[nocturne granite]

probably

my interest now is data-driven renderer

[main osprey]

guys anything happened to can_climb in these later versions? for some reason when riding mobs won't auto jump 1 block

[rain sphinx]

I wanna say no just because we got a decent amount of stuff this preview but I think as of recently they have added stuff in the last preview of the cycle so maybe not

[pulsar parcel]

That entirely depends on when the next Drop is.

[tulip stump]

Alright I think is time to mess around with today changes

What is the folder path for previews again?

Found

Hey so uh, I know I said that the 64 blocks limit for minecraft:placement_filter was bad but after a couple of days thinking I think I changed my mind

Would it be possible to have that limit on the maximum number of collision box entries too just for consistency?

[grave spruce]

It doesn't seem to be working very well as a vanilla version yet.

[tulip stump]

Yeah I think the texture is off

Found an interesting issue

Wait nevermind, is not related to the multi collisions

[grave spruce]

You say in the video? Ignore the texture lol, the connections are weird.

[tulip stump]

Yeah yeah just playing haha

[grave spruce]

Oh yea lol

[tulip stump]

Okay no yeah, is related to collisions.

For some reason, when multiple collision boxes are set up in a way that leaves an empty space within the 16x16x16 unit area, that empty space behaves very weird with some non-player entities collision impact..

[pulsar parcel]

Wdym?

[tulip stump]

Recording a video

[pulsar parcel]

@tulip stumpYou mean like this?

[tulip stump]

Yesn't, that also happens with vanilla

I've only tested with item entities, projectiles and chickens, only projectiles seem wrong

[pulsar parcel]

Yeah RichHeart said it was an issue for a long time.

[tulip stump]

Yeah is present on vanilla

But not the projectiles one as shown in the video

[hasty salmon]

Exactly. I'm having the same problem.

[tulip stump]

We still need proper selection boxes for stairs, I think that's the only missing thing?

[tulip stump]

Heck yeah

[pulsar parcel]

Ooh, what tool is this?

Or is this literally just Blockbench.

[tulip stump]

Is a tool I made a while ago for personal usage which thank god I made have support for arrays!

I will probably update it and make a #1072983602821861426 post

I lied, it only has 4 colors so array only handles 4 boxes

[pulsar parcel]

Needs to handle 16.

[tulip stump]

Yeah

Only Y was extended to 24 right?

[pulsar parcel]

Yes

[tulip stump]

dang had to google colors 😔

[sly elm]

Oh no, they are going to break fortress farms if they find out about this

Fortress farms RELAY on this mechanics to move items around

[barren belfry]

Do all the minecraft colors

At least concrete map color hex codes

[grave spruce]

Oh, After I added the connection, it fixed it.
This:

"minecraft:connection": {
                    "enabled_states": ["minecraft:cardinal_connections"]
                }

[tulip stump]

Great idea! Went for that route. Playing around with stuff at the moment

[barren belfry]

Concrete stairs incoming

[tulip stump]

yay

Is so freaking janky but it works

[grave spruce]

I finally managed to do this lol

[near wagon]

Damn this update is so peak

[quartz perch]

What’s everyone’s fave feature this update?

[stable lake]

multi collision boxes

https://tenor.com/view/cat-blahaj-kneading-biscuits-high-quality-gif-3582884063670662005

[quartz perch]

Haha that’s something my cat would do.

[empty otter]

Hate crime

Leave the blahaj alone!

[nocturne granite]

Improvement of loading times when using the /reload all command.
I use this command approximately 50 times a day

[quartz perch]

Are you noticing a big improvement?

[nocturne granite]

yesssss!!! It’s really fast

[barren belfry]

Multi Box collisions easily

But uh

Is there any update on faceLocation fixes any time soon

Half the blocks I'd use Multi Box collisions with also use faceLocation

[gentle stream]

Definitely the updated block collision boxes. I can finally make proper ramps.

[empty gazelle]

Interactible lever that active redstone

[swift night]

that looks cool

[swift night]

Wait how? Is it only on preview? I really need this

[brave flax]

multiple collision_box values in the latest 1.21.130 preview

[swift night]

Guess I have to wait for next stable

[wary lagoon]

yep, only on preview

and only on experimental toggle

[turbid furnace]

I hope it'll be stablized by 1.21.140.

[wary lagoon]

yeah, me too

i would love to have this feature as soon as possible

but i know that the devs are working on this so we can get this without any errors ❤️

[gilded scaffold]

Kayla’s cat photo? 🥺

[gilded scaffold]

You have made my day!

[pulsar parcel]

Thanks @silver pebble for this, but I know some creators wanted a way to show a container to a player without entities or something, I think DDUI and this new finding is their method to do so.

[rotund sage]

my BDS docs just broke bc of github, other wise i would provide types or something

[pulsar parcel]

You're good, you can blame Azure 🤣

[uneven kite]

Obliterated my UI for this

[unique trout]

https://github.com/xKingDark/bedrock-metadata/blob/cdcb53b091f8b4f92eb4f7c8feae292c3830c7ae/scripting_types/%40minecraft/server-ui-bindings%402.1.0-internal.d.ts

This should have the full types

At least I hope

[rain sphinx]

Some interesting functions. No idea what they'd do though

[unique trout]

I have to agree

[subtle shore]

Finally managed to figure out these stairs but now it's figuring out corners 🤣 💀
-# Also sorry Smokey for my response last time

[pulsar parcel]

You're good.

[subtle shore]

Great!

Why is the entity hit for items like arrows based off of the selection box 😭

Selection box arrays next? 🤣

[pulsar parcel]

Likely yeah.

[subtle shore]

Will making the corners require custom block components and scripting?

[pulsar parcel]

No. Use connectable and bone visibility.

[turbid furnace]

Does any vanilla block have that even?

[pulsar parcel]

Stairs.

[turbid furnace]

Their selection box is a cube, only their collision is a stair shape.

[slender wharf]

they are not talking about visual selection box

[turbid furnace]

Oh

Wait I'm confused, what selection box are they talking about?

[slender wharf]

the physical one.

not the visual outline when you have it selected

[turbid furnace]

I always thought that was handled by collision, idk why.

[subtle shore]

I was talking about how arrows hit the selection box and not the collision box. So I asked if we might get selection box arrays next to fix this or if they might just change it to hit the collision box instead.

[turbid furnace]

I need caffine.

[turbid furnace]

How would the visual selection box be determined?

[slender wharf]

maybe the selection_box component will be changed

[pulsar parcel]

VoxelShape and support.

[subtle shore]

what is this? 😭

[slender wharf]

your shadow?

[subtle shore]

lol i should have added more information

[slender wharf]

are you complaining about the resolution lol

[subtle shore]

the mouse isn't staying within the games window

i've never had this problem until this update

[slender wharf]

yeah, i wouldnt have guessed that

[slender wharf]

weird

[subtle shore]

yeah the mouse goes onto the taskbar and when i click it pauses and does the same when i look left it goes off onto my other monitor 😭

mouse constrait fix please 🙏 lol

im ngl i think it's a me issue

[tulip stump]

Ayyy

[grave spruce]

I wish, there are so many permutations, I'm going crazy lol

[tulip stump]

The permutations shown in my video are the only ones collision-wise

[sly elm]

only missing multibox hitboxes now

[tulip stump]

Yep! After we get the voxel shapes stairs should be mostly good to go

Finally no more stairs abusing of bugs

And fences

[sly elm]

not only stairs and fences but also custom pipes and cables can be better now

[tulip stump]

I’m hoping the selection box update was left for later because we will get 32x selection boxes

So that doors, beds, banners and tall plants etc can be made without bugs as well

[sly elm]

the banner selection box doesn't exceed one block by the way, only the visual model does

and beds and doors are made of two blocks with 2 different block states, actually none of the blocks in the game have selection boxes that exceed 16 pixels

[tulip stump]

You are very wrong on that last statement

[grave spruce]

What I meant was that to do this, a permutation is needed defining the collision and other behaviors like flooding for each block state and direction.

[tulip stump]

Honestly I’m more confused on what you mean now lol

[grave spruce]

True, especially since nowadays fences and other connectable blocks connect to our custom stairs. There is a way to prevent this, but it only involves canceling all connections (including stairs), which ends up breaking the stairs.

[grave spruce]

Doesn't each rotation and shape of the staircase, such as a corner, require a permutation?

[tulip stump]

Well yeah, but that’s easy to do

You can get the values from vanilla own states

[grave spruce]

I think you didn't understand, lol.

[tulip stump]

Yeah I’m not understanding you

Not sure if this helps you, but I built this; https://discord.com/channels/523663022053392405/1435847437003657216

Helped me get those collision boxes really quick

[grave spruce]

For example, doesn't the stair have each rotation like north, south, etc., each one needing a separate collision? This also includes connected versions of the stairs.

[tulip stump]

Yeah, 32 permutations in total, all the ones shown in my video

16 corners and 16 cardinals

[grave spruce]

Lol, this is really going to be a lot of work. Since it's not a priority for me because it's experimental, I'll leave it for later; it should be a bit tiring.

[tulip stump]

Is fun 😔

[grave spruce]

I need to convert some structures to jigsaw, so that can wait until later.

[tulip stump]

Sounds fun too!

[grave spruce]

Really(96 mcstructure files)

[sly elm]

I am?

[glossy swallow]

you may be referring to the wall banner

[sly elm]

oh yeah i forgot you can place it on the ground

[tulip stump]

Yeah, many blocks in the game have a selection box bigger than 16x, such as the ones I mentioned.

[sly elm]

No, beds are made of 2 blocks with different block states

even standing banners are 1 block tall

the selection boxes of beds and doors appears to be 2 blocks long/tall sure but that's only visual

[glossy swallow]

the bed itself is one model iirc (in bedrock at least)

[rotund sage]

Well you are both right, the server has it as two seperated blocks, but client does render it as whole bed

[tulip stump]

I think you are missing the whole point here. I’m aware double blocks are two blocks, I never said the contrary.

I always just talked about the selection box

[sly elm]

yeah

i wasn't aware both parts get selected when you select one of them until a few minutes

[tulip stump]

That is not what’s happening. The selection box is simply bigger than 16x.

[tulip stump]

Hence why I said this in the first place

We can extend selection boxes at the moment but only abusing of bugs 😔

[obsidian owl]

No it isnt
They visually merge but are still two separate boxes technically

[tulip stump]

They are two boxes bigger than 16x.

[lament light]

You know, I genuinely don't know what's happening any more with Vanilla multi-block selection boxes.

I used to think they were 2 different boxes that extended outside the their own block space. But if you insert just a half of a door — for example — into the world, its selection box is constrained to its own block space.

On beds: it's just a block entity (last time I checked).

[subtle shore]

So when do we get rectangular horizontal hitboxes? Lol

[glossy swallow]

trying to update this plugin
-# it is buggy

[pulsar parcel]

Akin to this then https://discord.com/channels/523663022053392405/1435847437003657216

[glossy swallow]

yeah

having trouble updating the list, not sure if this from blockbench or if i need to rebuild the entire select element html

[tulip stump]

Mine is not a plugin

[jolly sedge]

Wait, holy shit multiple collisions

[glossy swallow]

yeah, but a blockbench plugin can be useful to preview the collision box on the block model directly

[swift night]

By you?

[glossy swallow]

yeah

[swift night]

oh shiii

upload the plugin

[glossy swallow]

what...

[swift night]

nv,m

[glossy swallow]

lol

will do

[swift night]

Woooooooow auto generate feature?!

[wise heron]

Cool stuff

[slender wharf]

nice, dude

[gaunt current]

You can reduce it to about 14 permutations by using rotations and multiple geometry files

[grave spruce]

Does the collision rotate along with the rotational component?

[gaunt current]

Yes it does

I had to make separate geometries for the north, south, east, and west directions so that the top textures would align properly

Because even with uv lock the top would still be messed up

[pulsar parcel]

How so?

Im quite confused, presuming this is talking about stairs, it shouldnt need more than just 1 geometry with 8 parts toggled on/off depending if you dont want to rotate the model.

Javas vanilla files actually only have two models.

[tulip stump]

Yeah there is no need on having multiple geometries, that's just not optimal in any means

[gaunt current]

The top step uv gets messed up. The uv rotation stays locked but it doesn’t rotate to the correct part of the texture

[tulip stump]

Why would you use rotation

[pulsar parcel]

Is there a video?

I have never experienced uv lock failing.

[gaunt current]

To reduce the amount of permutations

[tulip stump]

You don't actually reduce them, though

Just the number of entries you have in the code, which is not equal to reducing permutations

[gaunt current]

I’ll try to get an example for you, it’s hard to explain

[gaunt current]

Yes this works, but for then the problem is that you’d still need permutations for the collisions

[tulip stump]

My stairs right there are using a single geometry and have no UV lock issues.

[gaunt current]

How many permutations does it use?

[tulip stump]

And with my tool https://discord.com/channels/523663022053392405/1435847437003657216 I was able to easily get all of the collision boxes done in like 15 minutes lul

[pulsar parcel]

Are you conflicting permutations array vs actual permutations?

[tulip stump]

I think he is yeah

[gaunt current]

Ah I see

[pulsar parcel]

If the former then I get that yes, gowever good tooling should solve it...despite my gripes about bad json format.

[gaunt current]

Yeah my method was just to reduce the file length significantly

[pulsar parcel]

While I love what Mojang is doing and their push towards more tooling, abandoning making the JSON readable is...less than ideal.

[gaunt current]

I have a permutation for normal stair, left and right inner, and left and right outer, then rotate it so that I don’t have to create the collision box for every single possibility

[tulip stump]

Too easy & same result I didn't mind doing it tbh

[gaunt current]

Yeah again it’s more so about file size

I have a ton of stairs so I’m just trying to optimize the files best I can. I’m sure there’s still better ways to do it but that’s just what I came up with

[tulip stump]

You could just compress the permutations array if those extra kb concern you

[gaunt current]

If it doesn’t make that much of a difference with the number of permutations anyway then I won’t bother

[tulip stump]

Which part is being less readable by the way?

[tulip stump]

Yeah is just some kb

[pulsar parcel]

Not necessarily this, but other things that was discussed in https://discord.com/channels/523663022053392405/1430752782649917450

[tulip stump]

Ah I see, gotcha

[indigo whale]

Nice, I think it would be cool to make a new element, a collision box element (not sure if it’s possible though), so users can just use the gizmos to move and resize the collision box and just copy the collision box code in the textarea like the variable placeholder in the animation tab

[icy rose]

🥶

[mellow oar]

We need this.

[glossy swallow]

I really don't want to overcomplicate stuff
It is easy to use as is
The generate button is huge help from what i tried

[mellow oar]

Did you make it?

[glossy swallow]

Yeah

[mellow oar]

Do you plan to make it available?

[glossy swallow]

Probably yeah

[mellow oar]

By the way, congratulations on your work!

[glossy swallow]

Thanks
Tho, i haven't tested this in game yet

[empty otter]

Just saw the new visual settings menu
This feels way harder to look at than the old one

It taking up the whole screen instead of having the different settings menus doesn't help, but also you can't collapse the VV settings anymore

[stuck spindle]

yeah you’re right, it’s alot more to scroll through

[neat pond]

Just fix it for the windows bar when entering Gameplay, for pause scree it doesn't matter if the new windows can appear when the mouse is at the bottom.

[rotund sage]

Yea really annoying

[dusty notch]

hi there, do someone know how to handle the offset on the new version for collision_box? is the origin relative to the center or to the corner? do I need to convert all my blocks with negative offset to be from 0 -> 16?

[pulsar parcel]

There's an offset? There wasnt last I checked.