MC Live 2025.2

[tender oxide]

Yeah this one was short

[chilly acorn]

almost more than half felt they were just talking about the previous updates they released, nothing else other than that

[true yoke]

I wonder if the range on the spear is longer

[tender oxide]

When is the next live? April?

[marsh flume]

probably yea, march-april

[robust flower]

villager jumpscare

[true yoke]

https://tenor.com/view/staring-meme-bald-guy-staring-gif-16652283412331227052

[tender oxide]

Maybe we get MC dungeons spinoff 🙏

[topaz sky]

tubbo vs all just to get hired

[tender oxide]

Tubbo is so out of place you can tell he's trying really hard

[chilly acorn]

i hope next year something cooler and more stuff other than this

[halcyon cedar]

Finally caught up to the stream

[chilly acorn]

i thought that tweet was just a collab

[topaz sky]

nautills can dash?

[tender oxide]

Yeah

[toxic idol]

Guys I cant come, xan someone later ping me and tell.me the results

[chilly acorn]

so he is doing an actual job at mojang then

i really thought it was a collab for mc live dang

[robust flower]

tubbo won

[simple fiber]

my rlly quick take, ik i fucked up the pattern abit but honestly it's wjat i can do in 10 mins

[tender oxide]

Jens 2nd

[toxic idol]

How

[tender oxide]

Last minute catch-up

[toxic idol]

Tubbo? Whats that

[robust flower]

the guy playing lol

[chilly acorn]

ok nvm. It is a collab

[topaz sky]

that one is still unknown honestly but made alot of people thinking that he's getting a job at mojang. so no, no one knows if this is a collab or getting a job

[tender oxide]

This is getting boring cya

[chilly acorn]

Probably both ig

collab + job at the same time

yeah it is definitely becoming boring see ya guys later.

[wraith pilot]

those were the developer secrets ig

[regal ore]

It just ended lol.

[robust flower]

aight ggs guys

[static aspen]

uhhh

[topaz sky]

live ended lmao what

that's it?

[true yoke]

did all we get was spears and a new mob

[marsh flume]

it is lol

[toxic idol]

Throwable ones?

[robust flower]

dang

[marsh flume]

nope

[robust flower]

nope

[topaz sky]

we get spears, 1 mount and undead horse.

[supple hare]

I hope you all had fun!

[true yoke]

nope

[toxic idol]

Nah

[regal ore]

Exactly what was in the leaks lol.

[magic tangle]

It's a horizontal mace.

[toxic idol]

Zhis is shit

[robust flower]

fr

end update when?

[toxic idol]

At least throwable....

[marsh flume]

but it accounts the velocity of the enemy too so it's more interesting

[quiet mulch]

I like the idea of the spear but it seems way too much like a gimmick item right now.

[true yoke]

I wasnt here for the horse part can u explain

[static aspen]

end of the world

[marsh flume]

tridents

[topaz sky]

imagine if someone could play rickroll here

[regal ore]

lol

[robust flower]

rideable nautilus mob

[true yoke]

all u gotta do is get a bow

[fiery drift]

🤡

[topaz sky]

LOL

[true yoke]

i dont see it being used for pvp

[toxic idol]

Yes but spears...

[chilly acorn]

Okay it was definitely a bit longer than the last one

last one was just 50mins

[robust flower]

& zombies can now spawn on zombie horses

[regal ore]

If you don't count the pre-show this was exactly 50 minutes.

[fierce tide]

NAUTILUS

[true yoke]

thats neat, just wasn't something i was hoping for

[topaz sky]

like skeleton, zombie can spawn with zombie horse now.

[supple hare]

Thanks for the idea

[fierce tide]

Can't believe zombie horses are going to spawn naturally now

[supple hare]

Everyone left after 😭

[robust flower]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ i gotchu

[fierce tide]

Honestly, I saw the rick roll and left the second after.

[topaz sky]

youtube's ads has saved me big time LMAO

it didn't play video

[supple hare]

Already saw the embed!

[robust flower]

DANG IT

[true yoke]

what combat abilities does the spear have like left click vs right click

[chilly acorn]

yeah

[regal ore]

I closed the activity after it was just on the YouTube home page for 2 minutes.

[true yoke]

and does it have a longer range cause it doesn't look like it in the video

[chilly acorn]

Hence why i don't pay for yt premium

[supple hare]

https://aka.ms/confidential

[chilly acorn]

the promotion for the upcoming copper age drop felt way too long 😭

like bro we already know it.

[robust flower]

phew that was close

you almost had me

[topaz sky]

sooo since there's like, nothing about minecraft event for golem

i guess we're not getting anything

[robust flower]

managed to close it before it loads >:)

[true yoke]

when are they gonna start implementing the biome votes :p

[chilly acorn]

nothing about Minecraft Festival which was going to be set up.

Nothing about offhand for bedrock

Nothing about anything related to end update.

Nothing about any new games like dungeons 2 or something

[topaz sky]

wait did we even get a release date for golem update?

[robust flower]

us: 0 mojang: 3

[topaz sky]

i feel like we did not

[chilly acorn]

yeah. September 30

3 days later. On tuesday ofc

[true yoke]

what golem update

[topaz sky]

where

[chilly acorn]

They did. Rewatch it

[robust flower]

in the beginning

[magic tangle]

https://discord.com/channels/1138536747932864532/1421555529255227392 Feedback Discord post for MoM Drop.

[topaz sky]

all i hear is upcoming next few days somehow

[tired echo]

I thought the live would say something to the BAO community ? was I the only one who thought?

[teal pasture]

mom mentioned ❤️ lol

[topaz sky]

what could they be showing when 75% of us here just to complain 😭

[teal pasture]

i am here to complain :)

[supple hare]

Real

[chilly acorn]

yeah

[chilly acorn]

the parents drop

[true yoke]

idk about y'all but that spear texture is ugly

[chilly acorn]

more like the parents update.

where you get parents in game who take care of you

[topaz sky]

i actually did not pay attention to the spear texture ngl

[chilly acorn]

and won't care if you die and respawn

[tired echo]

yep

[true yoke]

doesn't fit in my opinion

looks like something out of a modpack

not base game

[chilly acorn]

Alr guys it's been a good time.

[topaz sky]

that's what everyone says when there's every new drop like these.

[chilly acorn]

see ya

[fierce tide]

That's what everyone says when something new comes out. You'll get used to it.

[chilly acorn]

It's midnight lol i gtg and sleep

bye

[true yoke]

I meant texture wise

it just seems low quality

[quiet mulch]

i think:

• the nautilus needs a nerf because it makes way too many other ways to breathe underwater kind of useless?
• the spear needs a buff because as it is, it seems like just a gimmick item where the gimmick doesn't seem that strong, they were struggling against basic mobs when using netherite spears

[true yoke]

it needs reach

[quiet mulch]

i wonder what enchants the spear will have

[tender oxide]

nautilus needs to give player regeneration and strength aswell

[topaz sky]

I think it looks alright? its not great to me so far.

[quiet mulch]

all the other "tiered" tools have enchants.

so spears should also have some

all the weapons have enchants, too.

[topaz sky]

also looks like the spear texture is gonna be 28x or 32x

[quiet mulch]

bows, tridents, maces, crossbows

[quiet mulch]

how goofy.

[tender oxide]

yeah maybe itll have an enchant for damage and one for helping it to stay looking down (or whatever its rotation is doing)

Do people actually use Maces

[topaz sky]

actually no it's gonna be kinda like trident ngl

[quiet mulch]

fun

[robust flower]

i think they should make the head smaller tbh

[tender oxide]

all items are 16x16 no?

[topaz sky]

yeah 16x but in third person. that spear certainly does not look like a 16x texture.

[tender oxide]

also why is there a copper pommel

[topaz sky]

the stick is too long.

[tender oxide]

ohh

[sleek trout]

Drop will be peak. Not enough ocean features imo but still good

[topaz sky]

yeah nah this is def 32x texture

[tender oxide]

wait this is real? 😭

[robust flower]

yep

just talked to them now 😭

[tender oxide]

i hope they turn it into 3d

[untold pendant]

bro that song they played at the end sounded like this fucking tik tok song

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G7b4VMEATNo****

[topaz sky]

yeah on minecraft help website. though highly recommend not to chat them at all

they're gonna give you "i don't know" responses LMAO

some says that this thing is professional ragebaiter

[tender oxide]

"We are currently experiencing higher traffic than expected. Please wait a moment and resend your last message."

[true yoke]

The Minecraft dungeons spear design is peak

[robust flower]

so useless 💀

[true yoke]

It needs a smaller head

[topaz sky]

it's honestly doesn't make sense for me

[tender oxide]

OH okay so now it has the resources

[quiet mulch]

okay i forgot about parrots, and llamas are tamable.

so, not first tamable since 1.6

but first since 1.12

[robust flower]

ah so just threaten it with gooning

tyyy

[tender oxide]

did he die mid stream

[topaz sky]

wait until this thing hits you with "i don't know" to every responses

[topaz sky]

nah he's playing genshin rn

[tender oxide]

yeah this shit sucks

idk if you can even call it AI

[robust flower]

nvm the traffic's over

[topaz sky]

people call this professional ragebaiter.

[robust flower]

fr

[tender oxide]

dw i got you

[robust flower]

wait till it says "i don't know"

[tender oxide]

i think wanting to kill this annoying ass mosquito is more exciting than watching the after-show. That was so boring and painful to watch

[quiet mulch]

a lot of updating things that haven't been updated in a long time lately.

[sweet tide]

Damn I missed the show

[tender oxide]

Ask it if Minecraft can be made great again

[robust flower]

lmao

[sweet tide]

Nautlis makes sense why they changed input_air_controlled and dash

[robust flower]

lucky

[tender oxide]

wow

im not voting for merl during the midterms then

[quiet mulch]

copper armor/tools are the first update to early game progression in years (and first tier of armor since 1.16)
copper golem is the first golem added since the iron and snow golem, which feel like they've been in the game forever by this point
the nautilus is the first tamable mob since 1.12 (and, since parrots and llamas aren't all that useful, the first useful tamable mob since 1.6)
the spear is the first craftable tiered item since indev (only other one would be horse armor, but you can only craft leather so it doesn't really count as craftable)

the drop system certainly has helped them add things to systems that have been untouched in years.

[robust flower]

end update when

[quiet mulch]

the worrying part is exactly this.

if they do an end drop and it's just 1 new mob and 1 new item

that would not be fun

oceans could have gotten a lot more than 2 mobs, really.

[topaz sky]

LMAO

[toxic idol]

Lol

[robust flower]

merl knows not

[trail snow]

I love the new drop

Imagine looking for a left handed zombie full diamond with a diamond spear riding a zombie horse with diamond armor

[robust flower]

@Hardcore Youtubers

you know what you must do

[tender oxide]

Zombie horses have armour too?

[trail snow]

No idea

[quiet mulch]

wait, can we actually get the zombie horses for ourselves

or are they ONLY for the zombies

i hope we can ride them, like with skeleton horses.

even if they're not particularly different from regular horses since they're less rare

[topaz sky]

No, pretty sure that thing attacks you.

[quiet mulch]

aw :<

mean hors :<

i mean, zombie nautilus attacks you so fair enough i guess.

it's odd.

skeleton horses and zombie pigmen don't attack players (zombie pigmen do, but only if provoked, they aren't hostile by default)

[tender oxide]

When was the last time we got a new zombie variant

[topaz sky]

zombie horse is in the game for pretty long time ago now if i recall, i do see them before in vanilla.

[quiet mulch]

it is.

[topaz sky]

they do attack player iirc

[quiet mulch]

but it's been unused for years

they don't right now

they're just an unridable horse.

they might attack players after the update, we'll see.

[tender oxide]

Ig there's horses for skeletons and horses for zombies

[quiet mulch]

drowned i think?

wait no

zoglin

[topaz sky]

there's skeleton horse. you can ride them and they're not hostile also is like, upgraded version of normal horse.

[tender oxide]

So nether update

[quiet mulch]

yeah

[quiet mulch]

skeleton horse was also initially unused.

and then added in properly years later

this is good news for giant believers everywhere.

[tender oxide]

Oh?

[quiet mulch]

and illusioner.

[topaz sky]

yeah i saw that

this thing is like horse v2

[tender oxide]

Illusioner isn't in bedrock tho

[quiet mulch]

skeleton horses on bedrock are weirdly slow. :<

[topaz sky]

you can ride them without saddle and also, you can ride in the deep water too.

[quiet mulch]

funnily enough, both the illusioner and giant did exist on Legacy Conosle Edition as unused mobs.

[tender oxide]

Interesting

[quiet mulch]

giant didn't have a proper texture

illusioner worked completely

[grave hare]

ehm guys didnt watch the live stream do we get the end update now or nah?

[topaz sky]

No.

[tender oxide]

I think there is horse v1 and horse v2 too?

[quiet mulch]

the end to the fish's life update as it turns into a zombie fish

[grave hare]

ok thx see u next year

[tender oxide]

No but the warden dimension

[grave hare]

nobody need that shit

[topaz sky]

Eh, yesn't.

[tender oxide]

This is why y'all aren't getting end update

[topaz sky]

there's normal horse which allows you to make them wear horse armor, and there's donkey which. is a horse except you can only equip them a chest.

[grave hare]

just stop playing mc, than we will get it 100%

[quiet mulch]

there's even a horse v3

[tender oxide]

😭

[topaz sky]

i think v3 is skeletion horse

you can't make it wear armor or anything whatsoever

[tender oxide]

Ohh they don't have their files named as their identifier

[quiet mulch]

there's also 3 zombie horses

will we get zombie_horse_v4 in this drop

[tender oxide]

Maybe

[topaz sky]

probably not

it'll just be reused.

[quiet mulch]

also no, skeleton horse also has 3

[tender oxide]

They kinda don't like reusing files

Look at villagers

And zombies

[quiet mulch]

and horses

[tender oxide]

Yeah

We'll prob get v4

[quiet mulch]

long live horse v4

[tender oxide]

Amen

[mellow oriole]

I really liked the features of the next drop, I was just surprised that they already revealed the name, normally they reveal it at the end of the drop.

[true yoke]

zombie nautilus........??//

[true yoke]

POV that is the drop:

[quiet mulch]

yeah

they're adding 3 mobs:

• nautilus
• zombie nautilus
• zombie horse (technically already existed but can now actually spawn in survival instead of being a creative-only mob with no purpose)

[glossy thunder]

Any texturizer who releases free textures interested in texturizing the Nautilus identically as shown in the live and we release an Add-On together with it? I would make the mechanics. I copied the model from the live cube by cube, but texturing is not my strong point, xD. If anyone is interested, call me on dm for me to send the model

[quiet mulch]

the submarine mob.

oh yeah i wonder what 4J Studios will do for it with the star wars mash-up pack
probably the Bongo

[mellow oriole]

Yea, Will we be able to create custom spears? I would really like to create one from my ore

[hasty sphinx]

not continuing it but heres what i got

[arctic siren]

I wonder if we'll get any new enchantments with the spearlance

also hoping we'll be able to make it with add-ons properly

[quiet mulch]

i think we really should.

it'd be weird if not

since these drops usually add fewer features, but the features they add get a decent amount of focus.

so, the spear is one of the 2 major features this drop (the other being the nautilus, which we know is given a good amount of attention).

if it doesn't get unique enchants, it'll feel weirdly unfinished, since all other weapons have them.

again, can we appreciate that Mojang finally stopped with the whole "the drop is almost finished and we still don't have a name for it" thing (at least for this Mounts of Mayhem drop)?

we finally got an update announced at Minecraft Live, with the update name.

they haven't done that since the Wild Update i think?

1.20, 1.21, and all the previous drops including copper age, we only got the name right before release.

[topaz sky]

we're getting preview next week right

[quiet mulch]

i assume so.

[quiet mulch]

this made it annoying to refer to those updates, and i still refer to them by names i've seen people suggest in random comments sometimes ("tricky trials" -> "trials and tiles", "chase the skies" -> "happy travels")

or in the case of "spring to life", it's just "the spring drop"

[topaz sky]

it's funny that usually every 2 or 3 weeks (2 or 3 previews) that stable should come out, which. this is like, probably 4th previews right now ngl and we could possibly get a stable after or before 5th previews

[quiet mulch]

yeah but copper age was delayed to be announced at live

[topaz sky]

i actually thought we're skipping .110 entirely ngl

[magic tangle]

It be wednesday.

[magic tangle]

It tends to happen with Drops.

[topaz sky]

yeah but not this long.

[static aspen]

cool idea

[sleek trout]

It would be a missed opportunity not to

[glossy thunder]

Wanna share with me so I implement and release an Add-On including you in the members list?

[hasty sphinx]

I'm finishing the model actually but I made it in the java format not bedrock

[glossy thunder]

Sure. If you want to collaborate on a concept Add-On to be released as soon as possible in CurseForge and MCPEDL, I can convert to bedrock. It's something really easy to do. Feel free to reach out to me after finishing if you like the idea, and I'll quickly code the behaviors!

Excellent work btw

[hasty sphinx]

so uh i didnt finish the model but i did this instead lol

[quiet mulch]

this drop would be the perfect time to add baby zombie bedrock mechanics to java.

where they can ride more mobs

[hasty sphinx]

gawd please

i hate baby zombies

[chilly acorn]

but parity is parity

[hasty sphinx]

offhand

[quiet mulch]

It's really weird that they haven't added proper off-hand mechanics to bedrock yet.

[regal dagger]

theyd add it if they could, but the limitations on touch controls is still there

[quiet mulch]

admittedly, i've never played minecraft on phone

but

what limitations would there be, really?

[regal dagger]

'tap to interact'

so uh

[quiet mulch]

right now, when holding a block, are you unable to break another block on mobile?

[regal dagger]

lemme explain this

no, its not that

so basically, 'tap to interact' uses 'hold' for both using items and breaking blocks

so if a player is holding a pickaxe and a food in offhand

theres no way to figure out which item should be used

[quiet mulch]

ah. Yeah, that would be an issue.

when both actions require hold

i guess, for that situation they could just add a second "off-hand use" button?

for blocks, you could just tap to place them, i assume

[regal dagger]

thats the least thing the devs want

[quiet mulch]

i mean, they need to figure something out and that seems like the easiest solution

[regal dagger]

yeah but

tap to interact barely has any button

joystick/dpad, jump button

nothing else

[quiet mulch]

wait so can you already not break blocks when holding food

[regal dagger]

funnily enough, you cant

it also applies to bow or crossbow

[quiet mulch]

which means this is already an issue.

that should be solved

off-hand or not

[regal dagger]

tbf you dont really break a block with food items

you break them with a pickaxe

[quiet mulch]

there aren't blocks specifically meant to be broken with them, but you still might just choose to break a bit of dirt or some leaves while holding one.

[regal dagger]

good point

[quiet mulch]

any of the "fast to break" blocks, you're normally not thinking about what's in your hand, except maybe "i should not use a tool for this"

no point wasting pickaxe durability on dirt or leaves

[regal dagger]

ok yeah thats actually a great point

idk if theres even a way to resolve this

[quiet mulch]

i think it'd be hard to solve this for bows.

for food, they kind of need an "eat" button that appears when holding food to solve this in any way.

but for bows, even that wouldn't really work

[regal dagger]

they could technically add a button for that

(j)

[quiet mulch]

Like, assume you have this inventory (using BoB for spear)

the only item you have that doesn't lose durability when breaking blocks is the steak

[regal dagger]

but if the player's hunger is not full (and they dont want to use it) or if it was a potion/throwing pot/gapple...

[quiet mulch]

then you have no way of breaking blocks without using up durability, or having to move items around in your inventory.

which, sure, it's a fixable problem usually, but it's something where this wouldn't be an issue on console/PC

[regal dagger]

yep

[topaz sky]

wait

nautilus can wear armor?

even a netherite too?

what could possibly nautilus needs a netherite armor for

swimming in lava?

[quiet mulch]

trident drowned i guess?

it feels like its just there because "horses have armor so the nautilus should too"

but hey, if they have leather armor that we can dye, that's fun. lets us customize them a bit.

if they ever do a proper ocean update or add more stuff in this drop, then there may be more of a reason to give them armor.

[topaz sky]

Netherite.

[quiet mulch]

well, it's craftable armor unlike horses.

so i'd assume it has all the same tiers that human armor has

[topaz sky]

well horse should definitely have one but this thing? in the water?

[quiet mulch]

it is very odd when there's just no threats down there

except trident drowned

[topaz sky]

this do made me wonder how much health does this thing have.

[quiet mulch]

which aren't that common.

[topaz sky]

5?

[quiet mulch]

This is why we need a deep ocean update.

to add more underwater threats

so you actually want to keep your nautilus safe

[topaz sky]

honestly i don't think leather with dye works on this mob ngl

[quiet mulch]

sad :<

[topaz sky]

you clear the dye with water btw

[quiet mulch]

i mean, is it actually confirmed there's no leather nautilus armor?

[quiet mulch]

sure but you can swim in dyed leather armor

[topaz sky]

for what i seen so far, it has gold armor and netherite armor.

[quiet mulch]

i hope it has leather.

i'm still disappointed with the ghast harness.

there's no reason it should be 16 separate items rather than just leather armor style.

which allows way more colours

[topaz sky]

im still confused with what could possibly this nautilus thing needed a end game gear for tbh

even iron armor is durable already

[quiet mulch]

same. There's 1 hostile mob underwater.

well, no

guardians

[topaz sky]

3 or 4.

[quiet mulch]

i guess maybe guardians attack it?

[topaz sky]

5 if bedrock.

[quiet mulch]

wait whats bedrock have

[topaz sky]

( apparently skeleton DOES attack you like zombie when they're in water and DOES ALOT OF DAMAGE THAN ZOMBIES )

they do not shoot arrow when they're in the water instead they slam you like withered skeletions

[quiet mulch]

a yeah
but i mean, they dont spawn underwater. And they go for melee attacks there so they wouldn't hurt the nautilus.

the only mob that could accidentally hit the nautilus is the trident drowned. So, a pretty rare mob.

[topaz sky]

i think this thing spawns in tropical area only yeah?

[quiet mulch]

idk if they confirmed it spawning in only 1 biome.

[topaz sky]

All im seeing so far is they're getting nautilus in the tropical area. and tropical is, pretty hard to find ngl.

[quiet mulch]

it's a weird mob.

it makes all other forms of water breathing/extended oxygen in water useless.

and it has armor for some reason

happy ghasts don't get armor

[topaz sky]

oh yeah you don't get infinite breathing when riding nautilus.

[quiet mulch]

I think you do?

[topaz sky]

not sure but if that is a thing, then it's really stupid.

lemme check

[quiet mulch]

pretty sure they said that riding the nautilus lets you breathe underwater forever.

which is the big issue i have with it.

it makes all other forms of water breathing useless.

[robust dune]

Save for the fact that you have a companion you must keep track of.

[topaz sky]

yeah nevermind they're kinda infinite but does lets you breath in the water.

[robust dune]

(And ensure who will not die)

[topaz sky]

they does pause the water breathing though so it does not regenerate bubbles.

[quiet mulch]

which is, again, very unlikely given that there's only 1, rare mob spawn that could even hurt it.

[quiet mulch]

yeah but it's a very small difference.

imo they should change it so it just extends your oxygen. Lets you breathe underwater for twice as long.

and then it'd stack with things like respiration

[topaz sky]

well they gotta nerf this ngl lmao, this gonna make me go into that guardian temple very easily.

[quiet mulch]

yeah. It's removing too much of the challenge of being underwater.

[robust dune]

We'll have to see how Drowned interact with it. I suspect a Nautilus can still be hurt by melee.

[topaz sky]

yeah it can, due to them having armor.

and idk WHY is this have netherite armor is beyond me.

[quiet mulch]

the entire point of underwater areas is that you have a limited air meter.

why would you ever get a turtle shell for 10s of water breathing, if you can just get a few pufferfish to tame a nautilus and get infinite water breathing

[topaz sky]

both are equally hard to find and get.

you still gonna find a tropical area which is rare. it's also where pufferfish spawns too if i recall.

or you just idk fish

[quiet mulch]

sure but you can just fish for pufferfish

no need to wait around for turtles

[topaz sky]

or you also brew the potion with pufferfish or get an armor enchantment for that

[quiet mulch]

yeah but both of those are also limited time.

[topaz sky]

honestly it doesn't beat trident transportation so it certainly doesn't quite matter to me that much

[quiet mulch]

potions last for 8 minutes at most
and respiration extends your oxygen bar, but it'll just run out slower, it still does.

[topaz sky]

yeah

but if you're playing on java — Door.

you just, place a door.

that's it, a infinite oxygen supply.

still a thing btw idk why did they not patch it, but does not work on bedrock.

[safe solstice]

cause java players will complain

[quiet mulch]

imo the nautilus should:

• double your oxygen meter
• make you regain oxygen 4x faster (so, the little hop out of water you do would already regain a good amount, but you'd still want a turtle shell for it to go back to full instead)

[quiet mulch]

java players.

[robust dune]

Can you use a bucket to take water from a waterlogged door?

[topaz sky]

Yes.

[quiet mulch]

noe

well, you can get water from it but it re-waterlogs instantly

unless there aren't source blocks around it

[safe solstice]

bedrock don't do that

[topaz sky]

they don't get waterlogged instantly in bedrock.

[quiet mulch]

they do???

i'm trying it now :<

[topaz sky]

It does on java

but i never seen one on bedrock ever.

it never logs an existing waterloggable blocks on the source.

[quiet mulch]

in this situation

the door can't be unwaterlogged.

except sponges

which do unwaterlog it

and then it does stay unwaterlogged.

weird

[topaz sky]

yeah, you'll have to unwater the top door first or otherwise. that exists

[quiet mulch]

dispensers also work

i can't seem to manually unwaterlog the door while it's underwater

only sponges or dispensers.

[quiet mulch]

yeah, it doesn't work unless you use a dispenser or a sponge

[topaz sky]

need to try something funny with door when i get home lol

though there's another alternative like, putting droppable blocks (i.e sands or gravel) on yourself and move to the edge pixel and it'll not damage aswell generate oxygen

Huh, i think that's a bug.

you can't even unwater the door when you're surrounded with regular unwaterloggable blocks

yeah i don't think this works.

another infinite water found

well there's this too

[safe solstice]

tf is this

[topaz sky]

yeah ts is def a bug

so, tl;dr about if you can unwater the door in the underwater or not - nah and it's literal opposite, you get a infinite water instead.

[safe solstice]

lol, you need to be out of the water to do so

[topaz sky]

yeah i don't think this is how it works either tbh

but hey another infinite water source.

and it fast too instead of waiting water to refil

[safe solstice]

you need two water sources right?

[topaz sky]

yeah

just like regular infinite water source.

[safe solstice]

but 1x2 size

[topaz sky]

yeah

you just can't drain it at all

this is bugrock moment

[topaz sky]

turned out you can only drain both inside and outside if there's air block nearby for some reason.

[regal dagger]

i wonder how spear is gonna interact with scripting when it comes out

or resource/behavior pack in general

[true yoke]

hope it gets canned

and doesn't release

worst item they possibly could have added

[topaz sky]

it's either

• they turn it into one of the broken components just like a bow and crossbow
• hardcode it lmao you don't get to use it.

i don't think we got anything from the mace, so i doubt we'll get anything from the spear in terms of addon.

[true yoke]

atleast the mace is useful

[topaz sky]

i mean, I don't know but the spear is literally mace in horizontal.

the more horizontal momentum you have, more damage you'll be doing. honestly elytra alone is already deadly enough to encounter.

[true yoke]

for a spear its range was horrible and damage wise it was horrible in the live they used netherite spears

and it was awful

[topaz sky]

These were unenchanted btw

or atleast they don't have any enchantment yet

we'll see what we get though.

[true yoke]

yeh and an iron sword seemed better

not to mention no reach for the spears

[quiet mulch]

so wait what was this all about

[topaz sky]

likely zombie nautilus

[quiet mulch]

since this says "Nautilus" i'd assume
but the regular nautilus is a mob you tame and ride.

[topaz sky]

though in placeholder i guess lmao

[quiet mulch]

but zombie nautilus isn't hostile

it's neutral

then again, so is the drowned i guess.

[topaz sky]

i guess they just toying around and did some changes

[quiet mulch]

hopefully they're going with that version for neutral

[quiet mulch]

maybe, but it's still odd to use this as the teaser image for this drop.

when they didn't actually add any new regular hostile mobs, but instead 2 new mounts for existing hostile mobs.

(again, unless they're going with the drowned definition of "it's neutral because it only attacks you when you're in water"

[topaz sky]

yeah they do that casually on every teaser.

[regal dagger]

pensive

[feral hamlet]

Wait, can we just kill nautiluses on sight to get their shells?

[magic tangle]

We don't know what it drops right now.

[trail snow]

But we know they are super rare still though

[arctic siren]

are they?

[mellow oriole]

Maybe we'll know on Wednesday if it's already added to the preview.

[magic tangle]

Hence..."right now"

[fluid ibex]

nautilus

[sleek trout]

Okay so just to clear things up, the spear will have longer reach?

[magic tangle]

We dont know.

[sleek trout]

I think I saw a short talking about it. I could find it

[trail snow]

It was not officially announced for it to be true

[sleek trout]

https://youtube.com/shorts/9rD_D4nC9_s?si=FQv3y9zigmERFnGa

Hmm strange if it's not

That's safe enough to assume right?

[trail snow]

In that case yes!

Now it ends being a longer reach because the code is "throwing" it like a trident 😔

[sleek trout]

That would be so sad

This gives me hope for a reach component then

Excited 🤩

[trail snow]

New mob for the ocean

You know what else lives in the ocean?

Crabs

You know what crabs had? An item with longer reach

Longer reach? Spear?

Crab confirmed?

[sleek trout]

I was literally just thinking that

Gotta start the crab posting

They did say there were more features coming too

So I'm hopeful for the crab too, if it's anything like the copper golem, mojang will cook

[trail snow]

It would be lovely to have crabs

[sleek trout]

I mean, when will the next ocean update be? This just makes sense

[true yoke]

reach component?

[sleek trout]

that's what I'm saying

So very possible

[fiery vale]

Crab legs too???

[lofty python]

i think we’re actually gonna see the spear for this minecraft live coming up

my source? idk i just feel it happening for some reason

[mellow oriole]

My dream is to find a way to create custom spears together

[true yoke]

gonna be hard coded fr

cuz thats how mojang is

we haven't even got full bow functionality

[magic tangle]

Whats missing?

[true yoke]

the actual frame thing

[mellow oriole]

It would be very sad since it follows the vanilla tier level and would not support custom tiers.

[sleek trout]

beforeOnHurt would be nice for this

And what, is it like a hurt box that is in front of the player?

I'm going to be honest, I don't think there'll be a component for it

Just like there's no component for the mace

But I would love to be proved wrong though

[true yoke]

dudes asking for a miracle

[quiet mulch]

It is interesting that the spear has a cooldown.

on attacks,

you can see in the hotbar, the spear goes on cooldown when you hit with it.

Very interesting as this makes it the only melee weapon with an attack cooldown on bedrock.

[topaz sky]

feels like they're playing on fast graphic (simple) mode ngl

[quiet mulch]

they might be for this clip. i wonder why.

the next one is blatantly VV

maybe just an odd time of day?

[topaz sky]

actually they do use fast graphics quite alot on these teasers.

[quiet mulch]

I wonder how the spear having an attack cooldown will affect its usefulness.
you get extra reach, but you have to wait for the cooldown.

on java, all weapons have cooldowns so that's normal, but on bedrock they don't.

[topaz sky]

would be funny if they add combat update with it

[quiet mulch]

would like full off-hand functionality.

would not like 1.9 combat :<

[topaz sky]

gotta move on with the time ngl

[quiet mulch]

I mean no im playing bedrock and get to keep pretending the attack cooldowns, axe damage changes and OP steak healing never happened

[regal dagger]

possible reach component?

[lofty python]

testing to see how us bedrockians react to it

then they go from there

[wraith pilot]

i like how the underwater footage is noticeably laggy

[quiet mulch]

I wonder if they'll bring over the Java attack cooldown UI and the current "use item cooldown UI" for it is a placeholder

[short glade]

man getting back to addon stuff after not doing it for a while sucks

i go back to not being able to even render an entity

wrong chat

😼

[regal dagger]

i doubt that

[quiet mulch]

Is there currently any way to stop players from attacking?

because if not, maybe the spear will also add that, since i'd assume you just can't attack at all with it during the cooldown

[regal dagger]

damaging? kind of

hitting? no

[quiet mulch]

because the cooldown seems to be partially to let the animation play out

[regal dagger]

methinks its gonna be

(inhale)

hardcoded

[quiet mulch]

:<

majong pls

no hardcody spear

[regal dagger]

i beg you majong

[quiet mulch]

the spear could be very interesting if none of it is hardcoded stuff.

[regal dagger]

oh its gonna be FIRE.

[quiet mulch]

like, let us have reach, preventing attacks when on cooldown, and the jousting mechanic.

[regal dagger]

especially the reach mechanic

if that thing is hardcoded

im gonna be SO MAD

[quiet mulch]

i wonder how it works.

is it separate reach for entities and blocks

can we even break blocks with a spear at all?
could we activate a lever or break a block from further away?

[regal dagger]

thats an interesting thought

tho we have like

longer block reach

[quiet mulch]

even if it's just for entities, would it let us make dogs stand up from further away

[regal dagger]

and mobile players have 1 block further in block reach

so i think block/interaction reach is gonna be the same

[quiet mulch]

maybe. I'm very interested in how this thing works.

[regal dagger]

same

[quiet mulch]

as like, this would be based on entity interaction range.

you will be able to make doors that can only be opened with spears.

if it's only for attack and not all mob interactions that'll still be possible i guess.

just do a witch door.

[magic tangle]

Mojang should hard code everything.

[fiery vale]

I hope mojang adds some way to increase block placing/breaking controller range in creativeq

[vocal cypress]

aka crab claw?

[magic tangle]

Editor mode.

[fiery vale]

I mean yeah

[tender oxide]

They should remove creative mode

[nova pendant]

Yes

[fierce tide]

Exactly. You would have to create more buttons, which clutters the mobile screen more.

[sleek trout]

I mean would it be so bad to have an button only appear when you have some like blocks in the offhand?

Could have it work like a toggle or something, where on uses the main hand, off uses the offhand. You get the idea

[marsh flume]

Force players to use the new control scheme

[fluid ibex]

there is an animation in the RP side player entity code that is this:

    "brandish_spear": "animation.humanoid.brandish_spear",

(it might just be used for like, a trident or something, but i though it might be something cool)

[crystal perch]

yeah definitely for the tridenty

[true yoke]

yeh its used for the trident but I think its weird its been called a spear in the files

[lone marsh]

the use_animation that triggers it is also called spear

I wonder if spears are going to have a use_animation

[fluid ibex]

yes

[hardy torrent]

It will be called trident. They need to make it as confusing as possible for people.

[magic tangle]

Spear_v2

[hardy torrent]

Or v3 with no explanation of why there isn’t a v2

Like how the v1.8 files always threw me off when I was starting add-ons

[magic tangle]

Sorry, v3 is reserved for Mace.

[fluid ibex]

LOL