1.21.50.25 - Preview

[gusty cypress]

Beta and Preview Changelogs

Minecraft Beta & Preview - 1.21.50.25

It's that day of the week!
A new Minecraft: Bedrock Edition Preview is out now!

Posted on · Oct 23, 2024, 3:44 PM

[gusty cypress]

first

[novel bison]

hi

[gusty cypress]

Bedrock Dedicated Server for Minecraft Preview v1.21.50.25 is out now!

[valid wharf]

Yay

[wary spruce]

meow

[chilly gate]

Yo

[cosmic hill]

YO

[novel bison]

yay am first this time

[cosmic hill]

new blocks :()\

[crude rain]

hmm

[valid wharf]

Sad @dense solar noises?

Nice

[stray kestrel]

Happy Preview Day ya'll!

[valid wharf]

WAIT WHAT???

[rare bramble]

first

[rare gust]

s

[stray kestrel]

@dense solar and I have been talking about this offline. There is an improvement we're planning here, since the solution we have this week won't work for Marketplace Add-Ons (due to technical restrictions).

[crude rain]

🙏🏿 😭 what does this mean, im slow rn

[dry scarab]

Keyboard input reading

[stray kestrel]

Looking forward to seeing what ya'll make with Input APIs!

[crude rain]

😲

[valid wharf]

Yeah I get that, that's why I said sad jigarbos noises since correct me if I'm wrong, states you have to override the ghast json file correct?

[crude rain]

FIREEEE 🔥

[wary spruce]

We love you

[tribal grail]

Apparently the "upcoming features" page was just "here's the plan for the preview update"

[chilly gate]

Damn an item that can be used for blocks as well as trims

[wary spruce]

Thank you

[valid wharf]

Where /place and jigsaw?

[stray kestrel]

Correct. And that doesn't work for Marketplace Add-Ons since we don't let creators override vanilla files there (for backcompat reasons)

[tribal grail]

I eated them

[mild haven]

I'm assuming that the main issue with execute_event_on_home_block is that the events are hardcoded, but i also think the format could be combined with trigger e.g.

"trigger": {
  "event": "the_creaking_heart_thing",
  "target": "home"
}

[carmine osprey]

meow meow

[stray kestrel]

Currently on the cusp of 1.21.50. Hopefully it doesn't slip to 1.21.60. But ya'll should be able to play in Previews soon enough regardless.

[brittle hatch]

GRAAAAAAAAAAAAAHH

[dreamy ermine]

Why no new deferred goodies

[near tulip]

hi

[valid wharf]

😍 Is this your way of saying sorry for no air tag?

[wary spruce]

Does it detect all inputs or only specific ones?

[dreamy ermine]

😭

[sturdy crystal]

Huh

[valid wharf]

I'll take it!

[novel bison]

i wonder what does it look like

[stray kestrel]

sorry, not sorry

[sturdy crystal]

No Deferred 😭

[near tulip]

mmmm, resin bricks

[jagged spire]

Omg Happy Preview day \o/

[dreamy ermine]

Mojang must be cooking a big new secret feature for deferred

[valid wharf]

The resin bricks look way too close to my honey blocks from my unreleased add-on... 🥹

[near tulip]

i can think of a lot of building ideas with it

[chilly gate]

What is Aim Assist supposed to do

[rare gust]

Soon my dreams will become real? Jigsaws on Bedrock?? Dreams do come true as they say!

[sturdy crystal]

I don't even play this game outside of deferred 😞

[valid wharf]

Fortnite bot lobbies.

[stray kestrel]

A lot of the deferred work now is boring optimizations. So there will be fewer flashy releases.

[dreamy ermine]

Wait

Deferred is finished?

[rare bramble]

more than likely to make it easy to target blocks if the camera is in a top down or similarly angled view

[dreamy ermine]

Like it has the full feature set?

[pulsar hound]

input api this week full packet control next week?????

[rare bramble]

instead of freaking out with the jarring changes to controls

[jagged spire]

The new features are nearly finished

[rare gust]

I don't suppose they're done with feature sets?

[stray kestrel]

I didn't say that. I just said that most of the work is optimizations now.

[rare gust]

Ah, fair enough. That is needed.

[jagged spire]

There will definitely be new features but they are working on optimization right now, is what I think kayla is trying to say

[valid wharf]

Game developers caring about optimizations? In 2024? Impossible!

[last nebula]

I think it's just sneak and jump for now, right?

[dreamy ermine]

Well at least android players can enjoy deferred smoothly now

[valid wharf]

Yep!

[chilly gate]

So basically a sort of motion smoothener?

[near tulip]

ill test it soon

[pulsar hound]

why optimise when u can tell people to buy an 4090

[rare bramble]

idk, I kinda want to test

[near tulip]

[rare bramble]

microsoft store do your thing

[cyan wharf]

I love the new preview changelog page

[stray kestrel]

We've scoped these APIs to be pretty limited so we could get them out in a reasonable time. I think they'll unlock a lot of capability for creators. A full direct polling solution would take a lot longer. But, looking forward to seeing what you all make with what we provide and understand the limitations!

[jagged spire]

The changelog is just the minecraft.net version

[valid wharf]

Limitations breeds innovations.

[pallid swan]

ello

[jagged spire]

The "old" feedback.minecraft website still exists

[stray kestrel]

Because I want more than 0.00000001% of our players to enjoy these features 🙂

[grim oasis]

Two site minecraft. net and feedback

[dreamy ermine]

Wait has these optimizations for deferred already released in this preview?

[jagged spire]

https://feedback.minecraft.net/hc/en-us/articles/31291872110733-Minecraft-Beta-Preview-1-21-50-25

[near tulip]

I think its going to be more gradual

[stray kestrel]

I don't think so.

[cyan wharf]

well the minecraft net one looks like 1000 times better

[dreamy ermine]

Oh

Ok

[rare bramble]

trying to remember what I wanted to do with input reading a while back

[minor cosmos]

We can read input directly now? Yipee

[pulsar hound]

fair enough mobiles porbaly still nuclear reactor

[rare bramble]

although jumping and sneaking can already be detected withe the current api tools

[minor cosmos]

My project just might be possible now

[wary spruce]

Ah, though can't wait to mess around.

[dreamy ermine]

That’s what I meant to say

[native abyss]

Added the "emit_particle" entity event response, allowing particles to be emitted at the center of the entity's bounding box
HCF making a come back

[rare gust]

I wonder if this means that they're also gonna improve on stuff within Deferred while doing optimizations.

[prime lynx]

WHAT THE

[rare gust]

Unlikely I think.

[near tulip]

Im glad that Deferred is going to be mostly optimizations now tbh

[rare gust]

Yep!!

[dreamy ermine]

I wonder if that means they will give deferred a new name now

[spiral bane]

:O Input reading

[grim oasis]

👀

[analog topaz]

Huge stuff, hopefully just the beginning of what's to come.

[native abyss]

Can someone verify if you can get the movement vector even if the player isn't actually moving like with slowness or something?

[stray kestrel]

What do you think a good name would be?

[prime lynx]

yeah

[prime lynx]

Shaders!!
That's just a name that is familiar to most players

[near tulip]

Thats a tricky question lol

[valid wharf]

Wouldn't it just be 0,0?

[dreamy ermine]

“Fabulous graphics” is the best I can come up with

[stray kestrel]

ooo I like it!

[minor cosmos]

Super Duper Graphics Pack

[valid wharf]

Hey kayla, why is aim assist a separate command? Is it not meant to be used in conjuction with camera?

[near tulip]

I like that one

[stray kestrel]

10/10, no notes

[native abyss]

Then it's not much better than checking the velocity

[livid void]

oh yeees

[near tulip]

Like how in Java they have "Fabulous Graphics"

[rare bramble]

yeah, pretty sure the current stuff being added with it can already be detected in some form using the existing entity properties, need to wait for what gets added

[lyric mountain]

Hi

[sturdy crystal]

Deferred sounds iconic tbh

[near tulip]

True

[grim oasis]

Yes

[minor cosmos]

We'll have to look at what getMovementVector does. If it simply reads motion then it almost sounds like an alias for getVelocity or for calculating the position delta

[near tulip]

Deferred Graphics Mode

[grim oasis]

Deferred is already good

[rare bramble]

oh wait

[gusty cypress]

Minecraft Preview v1.21.50.25 is out now on the Microsoft Store!

[livid void]

we lived to see this
it revolution in addons

[rare gust]

yay

[minor cosmos]

But I'm guessing it's a normalized vector of the actual movement direction from the player's input

[hallow narwhal]

hoping its more than that

[rare bramble]

nvm I know what to use this for

[novel bison]

Luxurious Graphics.

[rare bramble]

It works even if input permission is disabled, which means we could more easily make our "characters" move based on our input

[livid void]

[grim oasis]

Hard to remember

[sturdy crystal]

Yes

[minor cosmos]

What'll be interesting is if this vector is "raw" in the sense of being world-spaced, or if it is local spaced

[wary spruce]

ayyy!!

[lyric mountain]

Wow cool apis for sure!!

[sturdy crystal]

Yasss

[rare bramble]

disable player input, read input -> apply input to new entity

[grim oasis]

G

[near tulip]

Update is out on Android

[minor cosmos]

This is exactly what I plan to use it for.

[rare gust]

Is a good thing they're focusing on optimization for deferred right now. It's a step in the right direction, and I hope to see improvements to existing features soon.

[hallow narwhal]

Would genuinely be a major deal if its the actual raw input, could be used for soooo much

[pallid swan]

"RTX 2.0 For Minecraft Bedrock"

[fervent musk]

this is cool

[minor cosmos]

Make an entity with no interpolation, move it according to raw movement, animate interpolation manually accordingly

[lyric mountain]

Looking for TS generator to drop

[native abyss]

Very good in that sense, still hoping it gives some output even if the player is affected by slowness 250

[cosmic hill]

what does that mean?

[dreamy ermine]

I hope they make clouds look better

[grim oasis]

No bounce light is not RTX

[pallid swan]

What the hell does this mean I couldn't understand

[minor cosmos]

It shouldn't matter if the player is moving at all, if our guesses are correct

[rare gust]

That, and also improve auto exposure by making it better. Fog could also need a bit of work. SSR and IBL too.

[rare bramble]

this would also allow us to make proper movement within a different plane that wouldn't get janky when dealing with player movement

[pallid swan]

they added device info to show up in HUD?

[stray kestrel]

"I can't beleive it's not RTX!"

[dreamy ermine]

Cubemaps need to be fixed too

Well cubemaps need to be fixed in general

[rare gust]

I think the biggest problem I have right now is how IBL reflections applies to things that isn't even reflective.

[minor cosmos]

I assume there's a setting within Minecraft that lets the user manually choose what their "memory tier" is, which is just a number/flag set by what their device reports on their hardware.

[rare bramble]

now how exactly would you apply that movement to another entity

Isn't teleporting still the only way to do it

[dreamy ermine]

Idk why but I kinda like it

[prime lynx]

well applyImpulse exists

[grim oasis]

If we image like roblox

[dreamy ermine]

I like glossy grass

[pallid swan]

teams up with microsoft to sell another billion 4090Ti graphics cards to fool players that it requires RTX to run RTX

[prime lynx]

but it's still not the best way

[native abyss]

.applyImpulse and knockback no?

[rare gust]

It'd be better if they do the thing they did with SSR where IBL only applies to textures below a certain roughness or metal value.

[rare bramble]

ahh ig

[grim oasis]

Yes i hate that

[livid void]

it is a revolution
get raw vector is so cool
it very useable for me
idk
we can disable player movement and made player control mob in distance of mob

[minor cosmos]

You would need to be careful with applying impulse velocity and knockback, since the effect stacks. I would probably teleport it yeah

[native abyss]

Exactly

[fervent musk]

you can override your device memory tier
this can be helpful to see how your addon beehive in different tires (not in performance)
for example you have particle disabled for low tier

[stray kestrel]

NVDA stock goes burrr

[minor cosmos]

You could implement your own acceleration based on what the input is. Teleport it further distances based on how long an input is held for

But impulse velocities would be good for preventing going through blocks. (Maybe ray casting in conjunction with teleportation would be good in that case?)

[prime lynx]

we just need setVelocity(velocity: Vector3)

[rare bramble]

could you spam clear velocity and apply knockback at the same time?

not sure how that would look

[minor cosmos]

You could. Releasing movement would mean no smooth deceleration though

[lone perch]

Wouldn’t this made binding keys for addons easier? Sorry just got here and confused

[native abyss]

Nope

[sturdy oar]

New blocks, new plants that have a day and night function??? That's amazing!

[livid void]

it will be work
on entities excluding players

[pallid swan]

https://tenor.com/view/stonks-up-stongs-meme-stocks-gif-15715298

[stray kestrel]

I do have player velocity APIs on the roadmap. It'll just take a while to get there.

[lyric mountain]

Some types here

[native abyss]

Mobile and consoles are the issues I'd guess

[prime lynx]

yippie!!

[native abyss]

Sprint next please and thank you

[livid void]

[lyric mountain]

I am really excited about shutdown event as well

[minor cosmos]

Attack key next please

[runic onyx]

hi guys

[native abyss]

On that note, can we /inputpermission disable attacking?

[minor cosmos]

I really want to play with the new input vector stuff

[shut violet]

i need someone to explain the word "spettyf"

[rare gust]

Time to check the new things

[lyric mountain]

Did someone share the new schema for jigsaw?

[rare bramble]

time to totally not slack off at my remote job

[prime lynx]

just add a way to register custom keybinds and add custom buttons for touch (probably never happening)

[native abyss]

Me nowadays

[minor cosmos]

"Speed?" Is this auto-translated, or did you edit it, or...?

[shut violet]

just check the changelog, i saw that word many times recently

[native abyss]

How would that work for consoles?

[native abyss]

Was this there last week?

[lyric mountain]

no its new

[rare gust]

Uh what is this?

[stray kestrel]

I can't wait to see ya'll play with camera aim-assist

[tribal grail]

Education thingy

[shut violet]

wait, i get it now, my "profanity filter" extension did it, sorry

[lyric mountain]

https://github.com/bedrock-apis/bds-docs/commit/1cfe1acf39a8181d916d447c88dcee6aae5b587b

[dreamy ermine]

Is it me or does the grass look different

[lyric mountain]

Check that repo

[shut violet]

it was "speed of"

[sturdy oar]

Those blocks so good!

[rare gust]

Glow texture?

[lyric mountain]

what is nature block?

[rustic valley]

You have any idea when it will be released in normal Minecraft as either stable or experimental for the /placefeature command?

Like time wise not version wise

[minor cosmos]

Haha nice, this is an excellent change

[rare gust]

If this is a new material for blocks, I'd want it exposed to creators 😭

[sturdy oar]

Wait...that can't be done with current custom blocks, right? Usually it's just the entire texture glowing or not, right?

[mild haven]

you can't do it at all with custom blocks unless you want them to emit light

[solemn forum]

world.afterEvents.playerButtonInput Nice

[late nymph]

If you name deferred as shaders now, then there will be no possibility to introduce actual shaders later.

[mild haven]

the eyeblossom uses two textures for the stem and eyes

[rare gust]

funny :P

[sturdy oar]

Unless the glowing part is on a different face.

[rustic valley]

Maybe we'll start getting more render methods for material instances in blocks

[rare gust]

yep^

[prime lynx]

fair

[novel bison]

they're not .tga format? interesting.

[mortal rampart]

HAPPY PREVIEW DAY

[native abyss]

It is a very happy preview day indeed

[rare gust]

Would love to have that as a block material.

[stray kestrel]

Sometime between January-March 2025?

[rare bramble]

new content log error spam just dropped for me 😔

I am not attempting to override the geometry on anything

[valid wharf]

Intriguing

[azure charm]

nom

[rare bramble]

this is blasphemy

[azure charm]

what me miss?

[tribal grail]

Jump & sneak input triggers

[valid wharf]

What

[tribal grail]

Along with many other goodies

[azure charm]

yippiiee

[prime lynx]

raw input detection

even when disabled with inputPermissions

[azure charm]

love that they finally document the protocol in change logs lmao

[rare gust]

Yea, deferred is a little broken this week it seems during night time.

[runic onyx]

The devs finally figure out exposing movement controls without exposing keyboard keys lol

[sage cargo]

another day, another update

devs are probably in their peak xD

[rustic valley]

Sad, I was hoping it would be sometime in December

[native abyss]

Liquid detection

[rare bramble]

YES

[prime lynx]

WHOA

[rare bramble]

The thing I've been waiting for

[lone perch]

What that mean

[prime lynx]

wait

[karmic mesa]

I'm late to such an amazing preview

[rare bramble]

plants breaking when hit by flowing water

[karmic mesa]

curse my sleep schedule

[prime lynx]

"currently water is the only supported liquid"
Lavalogging or/and custom liquids???

[stray kestrel]

It'll certainly be in Preview as experimental then. Don't know if it'll make it in a stable build then.

[rare gust]

I'd be happy if we get those in a preview. I've waited so long for my beloved puzzle block to work on bedrock 😔

[runic onyx]

Puzzle block?

[native abyss]

trim_material.resin.name=Resin Material
Did I miss the fact this was in the preview?

[rare gust]

Jigsaws qwq

[cosmic hill]

new trim color?

[mild haven]

petition to rename jigsaw structures to puzzles

[cosmic hill]

+1

[native abyss]

Do we have :compostable since that was only in the schemas and not mentioned in changelogs iirc

[rare gust]

It works I think

[prime lynx]

They should add a calibrated daylight sensor crafted with resin
it will output redstone signal at the same time as placed every ingame day
would be cool for redstoners ig

[karmic mesa]

so theoretically, you could have a waterlogged block that can still get washed away?

[mild haven]

rails

[native abyss]

Apparently

[karmic mesa]

liquid_detection is a weird name though

[karmic mesa]

do they get washed away on bedrock?

[rare bramble]

🥹

[mild haven]

last time i used them

[karmic mesa]

I thought it just flowed through

[mild haven]

which was 5 years ago

[karmic mesa]

like redstone repeaters do

[cosmic hill]

did i miss smth??

[clear elk]

theres some interesting stuff this preview

[rare bramble]

no?

[karmic mesa]

has anyone sent the overloads for /aimassist?

[valid wharf]

Read the changelogs 😛

[shut violet]

aim assist (the 4-cornered thing)

[cosmic hill]

oh it's an addon

[prime lynx]

looks cool

[clear elk]

the resin blocks look interesting imo

[native abyss]

Does liquid detection work currently or was it leaked early?

[clear elk]

wonder what else Mojang is planning for resin

[prime lynx]

I want some redstone block with resin

[rare bramble]

It's not a thing right now lol

It was mentioned in the blocks Q&A

[junior raven]

Or will we now be able to add different features to the custom button?

[clear elk]

…one-sided slime blocks?

lol

[prime lynx]

interesting

[karmic mesa]

how'd it behave before that was incorrect?

[rare bramble]

oh what I thought the aim assist command was just oging to be a true false thing what is all this stuff

[cosmic hill]

a block that sends a signal when you look at it or look away

[median wyvern]

Omg I need this

[carmine osprey]

i like these oranges

[prime lynx]

nice idea

[rare bramble]

how am I supposed to read the rest of the line lol

[karmic mesa]

that's a lot...

to bedrock samples metadata it is!

[rare bramble]

I'm not quite sure what the x and y angles are for

[mild haven]

/aimassist <players> set [x angle] [y angle] [max distance] [target mode: distance | angle] [preset id]

[karmic mesa]

I love it when they make single value enums

[clear elk]

actually…

that makes a lot of sense

[hollow cloud]

only thing is that java edition i believe has fabulous graphics already(looks much much different than deferred), so my thought is that it should be Fantastic Graphics instead

[valid wharf]

Yeah...this is minecraft legends

[junior raven]

I have a question. Will it be possible to add a button to the game screen and trigger something with a script?

[dreamy ermine]

fantastic graphics sounds nice too

[native abyss]

No

[rare bramble]

oh god

[karmic mesa]

not with this stuff, no

maybe sometime in the future, hopefully with client scripting if that ever happens

[native abyss]

I'm sure if we do get keybinds they'd need to be defined in json

[rare bramble]

I guess it's used for adjusting something

ahh it's grabbing the nearest block within that angle

[mild haven]

oh it changes your selection

[prime lynx]

sounds like dreams

[fading merlin]

Ok, I like a lot the bright color from the armor

[valid wharf]

Yeah you cant select entities as well.

[junior raven]

All my enthusiasm died

[prime lynx]

tho raw input also sounded like dreams

[clear elk]

…honey armor trim be like

[karmic mesa]

does aim assist work for keyboard and mouse?

[karmic mesa]

and is there any user-facing setting to turn it off like camera shake?

[clear elk]

ngl the resin trim looks better than the gold one

[echo summit]

Good deferred is getting some optimizations

[karmic mesa]

that's not what I was expecting at all

interesting

[echo summit]

Mobile is borderline unplayable when point lights are involved lol

[rare gust]

hehehe

[echo summit]

We will get the more flashy stuff later. Let them fix things

[native abyss]

What's going on here

[echo summit]

Also the new blocks are nice

Adds some juice to a bland biome for sure

[nova quiver]

Might be a long shot, but does it glow in the dark?

[prime lynx]

for what is this tho? editor?

[native abyss]

Yes

[nova quiver]

must be

[rare bramble]

/aimassist @s set 10 90 16 distance

[native abyss]

creators can add their entities to the exception filter allowing them to then attack Ghasts.
Do we know how you add an entity to the exception filter?

[valid wharf]

It's in the component.

[karmic mesa]

by overriding in the ghast file atm

[valid wharf]

.

[fading merlin]

Sadly no, it looks brighter for the own texture

[native abyss]

That's unfortunate

[karmic mesa]

what's the preset id stuff for /aimassist?

[valid wharf]

For custom aim assists.

[karmic mesa]

is that to do with the categories I saw earlier?

[rare bramble]

erm this texture is NOT 16x16

[valid wharf]

Correct.

[rare bramble]

ahh okay, so distance means it grabs the closest blocks, you'd want to use angle for anything else it seems

[valid wharf]

So this is what I expected, a registry of all vanilla jigsaws.

[native abyss]

Can you place any of those with .placeJigsaw() other than the ones king showed last time

[nova quiver]

Is that just the chalkboard UI?

[karmic mesa]

so is this the bounds in which it does aim assisting? so if I set it to 10, it'll only aim assist within 10 degrees of my crosshair?

[rare gust]

mhm!!

[rare bramble]

I believe so

very curious in seeing this on entities in the future

[cosmic hill]

isn't this supposed to be education edition exclusive?

[native abyss]

Does minecraft:item_visual work this preview?

[rare bramble]

what

[valid wharf]

Can't get it to work still.

[karmic mesa]

slight issue with the default aimassist preset

can't place this lily pad because it's not included in the default liquid_targeting_list

[mild haven]

sets the geo and material instances for a carried block

[native abyss]

A carried block?

[mild haven]

item

[native abyss]

Ah

[fervent musk]

can we disable aiming by using low values?

[grim finch]

MOJANG COOKED WITH THIS ONE

[rare bramble]

it snaps to the closest within the value range

[fervent musk]

we can't set range to 0?

[rare bramble]

oh wait I see what you're saying

[tepid root]

Hey guys how do i get the ip of a dedicated server

[rare bramble]

setting it to 1 disables you from interacting with or breaking anything

[fierce nimbus]

I think I found a bug

[rare bramble]

nvm

[fervent musk]

that nice

[rare bramble]

nvm, you can't set it to 0, it uses head location as the distance. So if something is 1 block tall you will eb able to reach it

[native abyss]

Interesting

[nova quiver]

the slate in the creative inventory is just a block from education edition

[tepid root]

how do i get the ip of this dedicated servers

[fervent musk]

only integers are allowed right?

[karmic mesa]

weird how you can set your aimassist to reach further than you can actually break blocks from

[mortal rampart]

🧑‍🍳

[karmic mesa]

might be for ranged items or something

[nova quiver]

Hi navi. And additions to the vscode debugger

[lyric badger]

You been very much cooking with these Input APIs!

[mortal rampart]

Not sure we print which IP the server binds to in the console

[rare bramble]

floats allowed

[mortal rampart]

Should be some good stuff! I think the change to integrate the profiler made it into this preview

[rare bramble]

but the minimum has to be 1

[mortal rampart]

I'll let the team know!

[karmic mesa]

Doesn't seem to react to the bow atm though, so hope that happens in the future

[fervent musk]

alr
we wait for a way to disable aim than

[karmic mesa]

what do you mean by "disable aim"?

[rare bramble]

could the added range be for mobile?

[karmic mesa]

we have the inputpermission to disable rotation

[karmic mesa]

what do you mean?

[stray kestrel]

Aim Assist is an optional feature. You need to use a command or API to activate it.

[fervent musk]

the selection thing

[valid wharf]

Minecarft Legends time.

[rare bramble]

can't mobile reach way further

[mild haven]

adventure mode?

[karmic mesa]

I can set it beyond that too though

[fervent musk]

still allow a lot

[misty zenith]

the ip address is the one of you device

[karmic mesa]

unless mobile is reaching 16 blocks, it's a pretty weird limit

[rare bramble]

idk

[valid wharf]

What you wanted less?

[rare bramble]

aim assist on mobs will be pretty funny if it works with bows

start curving arrows

[karmic mesa]

I'm just wondering what that high limit will do

[fervent musk]

yeah
i was thinking more of a way to disable selection box
i usually do that by spawning entity in the player head

[karmic mesa]

I'm hoping it means ranged item aim assist

[grim finch]

i’m confused whats going on in this picture?

[valid wharf]

Minecraft Legends.

[rare bramble]

just a image of custom plants that can't be broken by water

[grim finch]

ohhh

[tepid root]

ty

[karmic mesa]

quite the limit

[mortal rampart]

Still doesn't say which IP you are bound to, but I would assume most people here don't have multiple network interfaces on their game servers (or if they do they use something like docker to manage the servers 😄 )

[stray kestrel]

Aim Assist will eventually work with entities and maybe projectiles in the future. So it's important that it work outside your block placing range. Think, Aim Assist to fire an arrow at a distant enemy.

[tepid root]

Well, i used the IPV4 of my device, but i dont really know if that can let anyone in the world join to my server

[karmic mesa]

this is pretty neat though

[karmic mesa]

Thanks for confirming that, that was my hope! (the projectiles thing)

[mild haven]

does it work with different chiselled bookshelf slots

[valid wharf]

Mr navi, where are types?

[karmic mesa]

it's configured via presets, so you can set one up that does that

[runic onyx]

navi where are the types

[karmic mesa]

here's the default for aimassist

[valid wharf]

If only we knew what those numbers meant.

[karmic mesa]

I assume they're weights

bigger weight = more likely to get targetted

[rare bramble]

ahh this isn't in the sample packs?

[karmic mesa]

I assume it scales by distance (or angle) as well

[karmic mesa]

not sure, didn't check

[karmic mesa]

I just default to checking the install

[valid wharf]

Having docs be publish 1 hour before the preview would be nice.

[rare bramble]

there's no aim_assist folder in the sample packs so guess not

[mossy elbow]

Is it just me or does anyone else think the resin blocks look like spaghetti-o's

[valid wharf]

Not on the github, windows folder.

[minor cosmos]

I do now. Thank you

[mossy elbow]

You're very welcome

[daring summit]

does the new flower actually glow material-wise?

[rare bramble]

I wonder what determines whether something is put into the github sample pack vs only in the windows folder

[valid wharf]

Stable vs Experimental.

[rare bramble]

erm ackchewually

[valid wharf]

Bundles were not added if I recall until they got out of the toggle.

[karmic mesa]

I'm not sure why arrow is listed in the exclusion list

[valid wharf]

Tipping cauldrons?

[karmic mesa]

I'll try it

it doesn't seem like holding an arrow blocks the aim assist tho

[valid wharf]

They...obfuscated the profanity filter?

[karmic mesa]

but placed bedrock does get ignored by aim assist

[karmic mesa]

nope, still gets targetted

might be a mistake or just not functional atm for item exclusions

really cool

[valid wharf]

Did y'all try the liquid_detection?

[karmic mesa]

I did

[nova quiver]

Nothing right?

[karmic mesa]

it's liquid clipping

oh nvm

I thought you meant the preset thing

liquid_targeting_list

[nova quiver]

So with the addition of the new flowers, does that mean we can get blindness in survival now?

[tepid root]

And where do i put this code to join my own server in the own machine running the server?

[nova quiver]

In a command prompt

[tepid root]

in the cmd?

[echo summit]

Seems like it yes

[valid wharf]

Doesn't seem to work.

[karmic mesa]

you can now disable breaking blocks in creative without the deny block using aim assist and a room made of bedrock

don't see any use, but neat

[echo summit]

I kinda wish there was a way to actually become afflicted with blindness. Although I feel like darkness is the better, younger sibling to blindness lol

[valid wharf]

Here's the schema

[echo summit]

Oooh wait hold on what if right, (please tell me if this is horrible) staring at the creaking for too long would blind you which would disable its look check and then coming after you

[valid wharf]

Unless...it's similar to block culling.

[misty rain]

Is jayly docs broken

[karmic mesa]

that'd be horrifying and might make it more of a threat

[echo summit]

Ikr

[karmic mesa]

just add some wither rose-style blindness flowers all over the place

[valid wharf]

Maybe not...

[echo summit]

Would be cool if the eye flowers did that

They yoink your vision

[native abyss]

Yeah the docs mentioned that it only accepts water atm

[karmic mesa]

it did say lava's not allowed atm

[rare gust]

wait this component is out?

[native abyss]

Seems like it

[karmic mesa]

it's in the game, but could be non-functional

[valid wharf]

I was just testing to see if the full component works schema wise.

[karmic mesa]

like the other components we got early

[valid wharf]

😛 like item_visuals

[rare gust]

Would be cool if this one worked

[mild haven]

if this works i'm on my way to create copper grates that contain water

[karmic mesa]

you'll never get that one!!!

it'll come out under Celebratory Creator Features in 2027

[rare gust]

Can anyone send me the link to the vps, please?

[unborn berry]

Vanilla Packs

Downloadable from: https://github.com/Mojang/bedrock-samples/releases

bedrock.dev archive: https://bedrock.dev/packs
GitHub (RP & BP) : https://github.com/bedrock-dot-dev/packs

Example particles: https://aka.ms/MCParticlesPack

Java Edition's Vanilla Packs: https://mcasset.cloud/

Oct 23, 2024, 12:02 AM

[rare gust]

thank youu

Time to have fun!!

[echo summit]

i wish i had time to learn scriping in BE, it all seems so cool

[valid wharf]

So the JSON parses it correctly but the game just doesn't utlize it.

[rare gust]

Yea

[karmic mesa]

so how long is left in this cycle? the version jumps got me confused

[stray kestrel]

42 more versions

[karmic mesa]

1.16.x00 all over again

[lyric badger]

Those were the good old days

[karmic mesa]

the days when everything I made broke within a week because I got stung by the exp features early (I'm glad)

[valid wharf]

I wonder if these new features require capabilities in the manifest /s

[karmic mesa]

"client_data" capability coming back??

[valid wharf]

I'm not coping at all that we have two mystery components that parses correctly but does not work.

They should update the UCF description.

Excuse me?

[native abyss]

What's the current description

[valid wharf]

No way you have to enable both UCF and Beta APIs

[native abyss]

Clearly we're getting onLiquidTouches()

[valid wharf]

MOAR custom components

Ok cool, you need both toggles.

[rare bramble]

wait what

[karmic mesa]

the disparity within the error messages

amazing

[rare bramble]

so it is in this preview?

[karmic mesa]

still don't know if it functions

[valid wharf]

Still nothing 😛

[native abyss]

Likely non functional and only being parsed

[rare bramble]

ah

[karmic mesa]

clearly you just need to have some super specific pack UUID to enable it

[valid wharf]

The Sonic DLC.

[native abyss]

Block geo fix 2 electric boogaloo

[karmic mesa]

the answer to all

[nova quiver]

You know, for a second I thought that was custom liquid

[valid wharf]

And MS Docs and NPM types aren't out yet? Busy day at HQ.

[nova quiver]

that property wasn't there before 😒

[rare bramble]

I need them so I can see how to use the input stuff 😔

[lone perch]

Could anyone show me how aim assist works?

[valid wharf]

That property
There's 5 properties

[nova quiver]

The last one

[valid wharf]

Mojang...

[rare bramble]

5?

[karmic mesa]

must be for something like stairs

[karmic mesa]

oh no...

[valid wharf]

Mojang when it comes to making me angry:

[karmic mesa]

wait hold on

wdym "up"?

what liquid flows up...

[valid wharf]

[valid wharf]

Rotateable blocks.

[karmic mesa]

hm

yeah, I guess it would be useful for something like a hollow log

[zenith cipher]

education resource in the base game lol

[valid wharf]

I love how the components in the html docs don't work but the ones in the metadata schemas do.

[nova quiver]

So the component does work?

[valid wharf]

No, since the two liquid_detection and item_visual are in the html docs whereas compsotable was in the schemas

[rare bramble]

I removed player movement and added it back

[nova quiver]

Oohhh

[native abyss]

Neither of which was mentioned in the changelogs

[nova quiver]

Perfect

[karmic mesa]

the latency on bad connections...

[native abyss]

What does the movement vector output if you have slowness 255?

[rare bramble]

same thing

[nova quiver]

I guess it stays unchanged

It's just input

[rare bramble]

it's only directional

[karmic mesa]

is the input vector relative to the player or the world?

[rare bramble]

world

[native abyss]

Good

[rare bramble]

does not change with camera

[karmic mesa]

neat

still need to do trig for some stuff then, but cool nonetheless

[nova quiver]

Really? That doesn't seem to be the case in your video

[karmic mesa]

that's player relative

[zenith cipher]

this could be useful for maps right?

[rare bramble]

oops

[karmic mesa]

you're pressing the same inputs there while rotating, right?

which inputs?

[rare bramble]

yes

w s

[nova quiver]

Just w and s?

[rare bramble]

yep

[karmic mesa]

so forward and back are y, interesting

which is positive?

[rare bramble]

w

[nova quiver]

So how did you move left and right relative to your player head?

[rare bramble]

a and d

lol

[karmic mesa]

in the prior clip, they were just spamming inputs

[nova quiver]

I thought it was just W and S you used

[native abyss]

I just noticed it's xy vector, I thought it'd be an xz vector

[karmic mesa]

the second clip yes

they're moving along one line in that one

[rare bramble]

the first clip I'm spamming everything

[nova quiver]

So how did you move sideways in the second clip?

[karmic mesa]

they're moving along the z axis the entire time

[rare bramble]

the movement direction isn't determined by the camera

[nova quiver]

Yeah, how?

[nova quiver]

Your own custom movement?

[karmic mesa]

because the vector returns the local input, it's not affected by rotation

[rare bramble]

const movement = currentPlayer.inputInfo.getMovementVector()
        currentPlayer.applyKnockback(movement.x, movement.y, 0.4, 0);``` it's just this

[nova quiver]

Oh kay I get it now

[karmic mesa]

getMovementVector() seems to be the local vector and not the in-world vector

[nova quiver]

That's good

[karmic mesa]

time to make a server-side custom movement system

[rare gust]

Is this beta?

[karmic mesa]

I wonder if they'll make .setVelocity work for players once server-authoritive is a thing

[rare bramble]

It's massive for anyone wanting to anything beyond just 3d Minecraft movement

[native abyss]

Yes

[nova quiver]

Wouldn't that be neat

[karmic mesa]

I'm realizing how powerful this new API is for vehicles

this is actually amazing

[valid wharf]

I'm going insane.

[nova quiver]

You could also use it for some sort of ingame input system, like selecting a character or seomthing

Without the player themselves moving

[rare bramble]

oh true

[nova quiver]

Or controlling a custom overhead camera

Like a drone

[rare bramble]

ahh wow

[karmic mesa]

that would be pretty neat

[rare bramble]

a merchant that shows you several items and you select them via movement

[nova quiver]

Drone add-ons here we come

[rare bramble]

isntead of having to click or punch stuff

[native abyss]

I didn't even think of that, that's a good idea

[karmic mesa]

custom entity UIs will go crazy with this change

no longer just right/left click

[rare bramble]

sorry, I just filed a patent on it

[nova quiver]

Dang you

You stole my idea

[karmic mesa]

protesting the patent

ur patent just means I can't distribute it

[valid wharf]

Everything sent in this channel actually belongs to me.

[rare bramble]

this isn't disclosed anywhere

and I did not sign a ToS

you're being sued

[karmic mesa]

couldn't you theoretically make custom turning via left/right by disabling move_left and move_right, then controlling the ride rotation via the new input APIs?

[nova quiver]

You could, yeah

[karmic mesa]

would still be somewhat responsive for movement since you'd be using the vanilla movement

good luck turning with high ping though

[rare bramble]

instead of needing to get in the car, you can become the car!

[nova quiver]

Custom rider mechanics, let's go!

[karmic mesa]

okay, so whens the rotational movement API?

[nova quiver]

Like detecting camera angle?

[karmic mesa]

controlling things with the camera would be really neat

we can do it rn by reading the rotation every frame, but that doesn't work with the input permission off

[nova quiver]

I'm wondering how that would work. Would the game just tell us how much the player is attempting to rotate?

[lone perch]

I wonder if anyone could show me how the aim assist actually works?

[karmic mesa]

I'd assume it would just be a vector representing that

[lone perch]

It said it has a special texture for block selection

[karmic mesa]

it's the same as movement

[lone perch]

I'm wondering what that looks like

[karmic mesa]

#1298673593923801111 message

#1298673593923801111 message

[rare bramble]

time to delay my add-ons update even further to mess around with something new

[karmic mesa]

I guess the problem comes in when you deal with sensitivity and mouse/touch inputs

for a joystick it's pretty simple

[native abyss]

Every preview be like that nowadays

[rare bramble]

yeah but this one just got my idea train going

last couple haven't

[karmic mesa]

I wanna mess with the new input APIs, but I have work to do 😔

[rare bramble]

I'm "working"

[valid wharf]

Intriguing that all new worlds still have the data_driven_vanilla_blocks_and_items experiment

[rare gust]

Oh thanks for remdining me to check something

[native abyss]

When was this added

[valid wharf]

A while now, maybe 1.16.100+

[karmic mesa]

what happens when that's turned off?

[native abyss]

Are we still able to override dirt

[karmic mesa]

does it just eliminate all data-driven vanilla items?

[valid wharf]

No idea.

Here's all the experimental toggles enabled.

[rare gust]

gametest

[karmic mesa]

they're never renaming that

[mortal rampart]

We re-named it internalyl but aint no way we are going to rename it in level.dat. Not worth the time lol

[rare gust]

Hahaha

[mortal rampart]

I mean mabye one rainy day, but probably not.

[karmic mesa]

but how are we supposed to deal with seeing that in the level.dat?!?!

[valid wharf]

It's also just...not worth it lol! Who actually checks level.dat?

[runic onyx]

the game

[mortal rampart]

Minecraft is such a "tooled" game that lots of people do, but also lots of people don't. IDK!

[valid wharf]

A tool to use a tool to make games.

[late nymph]

:0

[lavish dagger]

the new resin bricks look so much like palladium in terraria

[late nymph]

I wonder how customizable aim assist rendering is

[calm flax]

We got "Aim Assist" in Minecraft before GTA 6! 💀

[feral jay]

finally i'll be able to do my thing

[trim niche]

The new creaking animations are so cool

[trim niche]

does this mean custom keybinds

[mild haven]

no

[trim niche]

aw

i cant javascript and bridge is broken for me so i havent made addons in a little while lol

[mild haven]

but you could make the movement/sneak/jump buttons do different things

[trim niche]

oh

[native abyss]

Bridge is outdated

Drop it

[north fiber]

Should not cap the minecart speed, and release that limitation like in java

[valid wharf]

That's an experiment for now.

[north fiber]

I want lag

[dense solar]

Crying in the club

[rare mulch]

Anyone got this in the last preview?

[shut sand]

Whasat

[rare mulch]

idk

perhaps something related to education edition?

[stray kestrel]

Q: Is the Education Edition "cheat" toggle on on your world?

[stray kestrel]

lower down, cheats

[rare bramble]

here you go

[lone perch]

How does the animation when interacting with an empty bundel look like?

[stray kestrel]

Thank you!

[urban hazel]

Happy preview!

INPUT APIS AHHHH

[urban hazel]

Oooh I had it written down it was 44, whoops

[urban hazel]

I touch it in packaging automation!

[urban hazel]

It's outdated? For what?
U4 and the two U5 previews are not yet added but that should be it.

[rustic valley]

and now we'll never see the slate item again

[stray kestrel]

It's always there for you, in the EDU version 🙂

[humble prawn]

Pretty good preview this time. The input APIs and aim assist are neat.

[stray kestrel]

"pretty good"
"neat"

[wary spruce]

We want MOAR

Moar toggles too

[rustic valley]

I'll be entertained once I get ahold of the /placefeature command

I got plans for it

[valid wharf]

It's called /aimassist not /entertain

[rustic valley]

What would a /entertain do?

[analog topaz]

enable more toggles

[valid wharf]

Air tag. And plays subway surfer.

[rustic valley]

Why haven't we got an air tag yet? or at least a way to query for air

Also we need a way to keep snow from forming on custom blocks

I tried making a script that uses a custom component to remove snow layers from atop of custom blocks and it only works on half of the blocks generated through worldgen despite the fact that they said they fixed ticking to work with world generated blocks

[raven zodiac]

SUPER MEGA W UPDATE

[mortal rampart]

apple has a copyright on airtag 😦

[rustic valley]

I know you're joking but I also know apple

I can see another scrolls situation happening

[raven zodiac]

:O new update for the debugger

[valid wharf]

Ooh, script profiler.

[last nebula]

I'd tried out aim assist a while back — it's super useful… in the right context. I just hope the community (read: Marketplace) is able to take sufficient advantage of it. You've really gotta combine it with these new camera and input detection APIs to get something great out of it.

[valid wharf]

A while back?

[rare bramble]

He means within the last 10 hours

[rustic valley]

someone has access to dev builds

[rare bramble]

He's living in the future

[tough swift]

XD block lightning bug

[rare lava]

is it too late to say "thank you mojang devs" and "yall are awesome?"

the input detection is the stuff from my dreams (i think i actually made a suggestion for it in the feedback discord), ty ily and im gonna go mess around with this stuff like a child playing with a new toy 😁

[loud marsh]

reading ui states in server is crazy

[nova quiver]

I'm already cooking something

[mortal rampart]

tacos?

[nova quiver]

Later

[nova quiver]

Welcome to Mine Kart!

[nova quiver]

See this @mortal rampart? I have you and the rest of the team to thank ❤️

[azure charm]

Quite a lot do.. you need to play around with it from time to time.. its very powerful :3

[azure charm]

Looks awesome!

[rare bramble]

Oh no the horse is drifting!!!

[azure charm]

I bet that is counted as animal abuse..

[livid void]

hmmm
how work input velocity?
for example:
if we get input velocity and player will be ride and control rideable entity with high speed, it return velocity of normal state of player or will it take into account the entity?

[rare lava]

That’s beautiful :0

[brittle hatch]

NOOO, mixels!!! 😔

[nova quiver]

I would've used an actual minecart, but there were, technical difficulties.

[fiery flare]

open_eyeblossom has no block light

[nova quiver]

That's intentional. The blossom shouldn't prevent any mobs from spawning

[sand vapor]

BUTTON INPUTS

OMG

YES

[fiery flare]

i meant at least one light but yeah

[stray kestrel]

So after a day to cook, how are we all feeling about the Preview? Highlights?

[prime lynx]

I didn't even try the new input systems but I know they are amazing
Just because I needed to create things that would've been much easier with this stuff from preview

[valid wharf]

Highlights? The aim assist crosshair

[stray kestrel]

note to self: block SmokeyStack

[wary spruce]

Damn

[valid wharf]

😅 A slight skill issue on my part is writing buttonPush instead of playerButtonInput everytime.

[azure charm]

Kayla, do it.. its only one click..

[stray kestrel]

Silence. Sweet silence.

[tribal grail]

https://tenor.com/view/master-oogway-kung-fu-panda-inner-peace-gif-11501603

[grim finch]

lmao

[cosmic hill]

oh dang lol

[nova quiver]

Did you see my video up the chat?

[stray kestrel]

yup! not sure exactly what you're doing in there, but it looks cool 🙂

[nova quiver]

Someone clearly hasn't played Mario Kart before

[nova quiver]

But in all seriousness, I was using the new Input APIs to make custom controls for the horse, allowing to be controlled like a kart. Drift included

I'm really proud of it. I've been playing the video over and over

[cosmic hill]

yea i have been wondering how did you did that

[cosmic hill]

can you explain how did you pulled it off

[nova quiver]

With a lot of spaghetti code

[cosmic hill]

can I 👀

[nova quiver]

Sure! (I'm not giving you the code :D)

[cosmic hill]

that's fine

[nova quiver]

JK, I'll send an add-on later

[cosmic hill]

oh thank you so much

[mortal rampart]

I didn't see a single blue shell

[nova quiver]

With no one around, there's no #1 to hit. 😔

Would you like to volunteer

[stray kestrel]

That is super cool. Congrats!

[nova quiver]

Nintendo, hire me to make a Mario Kart DLC!

[mortal rampart]

quit horsing around

[daring radish]

?

[nova quiver]

It's an editor mode thing

[lyric mountain]

Related to editor apis

[daring radish]

ah

[tidal hawk]

time to make an ODM gear using this

[pulsar hound]

As tmc player new farm to make
As addon maker input api cool

[lone perch]

Does anyone have a clip of the new animation when interacting with an empty budle?

[acoustic slate]

last !!!!!!!!

[grim finch]

hi some random potato

[cosmic hill]

Technically now they are not the last

[rare bramble]

so much easier to implement things like double jump

[cosmic hill]

True!

[nova quiver]

Speaking of which, what other intputs do we need to detect? I'm think we'll need sprint and camera orbiting

[rare bramble]

Swinging and blocking will be fantastic

[late nymph]

Touch direction on mobile would be amazing

[nova quiver]

Like something to know where the user is tapping?

[late nymph]

Exactly

[nova quiver]

Maybe that could be baked into interact/attack detection

[nova quiver]

Or better yet, have a version of getViewDirection that takes this into account. getInteractDirection() or something

[valid wharf]

https://tenor.com/view/every-single-one-of-them-steve-kornacki-msnbc-all-of-them-everyone-gif-19744458

For sprinting I am curious, because you can sprint by w w. A good way to check for that.

If we can eventually check for wasd would it trigger w and then sprint?

[minor cosmos]

Did anyone ever confirm what the input movement direction returned (what exactly the vector seems to be)? I haven't had time to check.

[minor cosmos]

Also can a mod please change this guy's name

[nova quiver]

That's a good point. I was just thinking of the sprint key itself, but the sprint action can be triggered in another way

[nova quiver]

It returns a 2d vector. Y is forward/backward and X is left/right

[minor cosmos]

Excellent.

[fervent musk]

1 to pressed and 0 for un-pressed?

ah nvm

[nova quiver]

The vector also never has a length greater than 1

[fervent musk]

ok now i am confused, that mean they can be floats?
-1 to 1 but what are the values between mean

[valid wharf]

Why it isnt xz is beyond me.

[nova quiver]

xy makes sense too in this context.

movement vector can be interpreted in anyway you want

[nova quiver]

And traditionally, inputs with 2 dimensions are represented with X and Y anyway

[valid wharf]

I don't see why we need a Vector2 and a VectorXZ.

[minor cosmos]

@fervent musk It's a normalized, 2D vector describing the input as a direction. <0, 1> is forward; <0, -1> is backward.

[nova quiver]

semantics. It really depends on the situation

[minor cosmos]

It doesn't make sense to have a separate definition for an XZ and XY vector. Those are only dummy variables

[minor cosmos]

What's an example of an XZ vector?

[valid wharf]

I'm so glad you asked! It's used for Dimension.getTopMostBlock!

[nova quiver]

You see that makes sense

[valid wharf]

https://stirante.com/script/server/1.16.0-beta.1.21.42-stable/classes/Dimension.html#getTopmostBlock

[nova quiver]

You could easily use a normal vector3 that represents a location for that

[valid wharf]

Which in this case I guess makes sense? Even though you could jist make it accept an x and z param instead of being a Vector2.

[minor cosmos]

Oh, as an input for that method. That should just be a Vec2

[minor cosmos]

Or that

[nova quiver]

You could do overworld.getTopMostBlock(player.location) and it just works

[minor cosmos]

So is VecXZ simply <x, 0, z>? Is it a 2D vector or 3D?

[valid wharf]

@mortal rampart Could we get an insight into when Mojang would use Vector2 vs VectorXZ even though it really shouldn't matter since it's a structure?

[nova quiver]

it's a 2d vector, with 2 axes being X and Z

[minor cosmos]

Silly

[valid wharf]

Then why is Vector2 not called VectorXY?

Or Vector3 called VectorXYZ.

[nova quiver]

That's a fair question.

I guess it's because VectorXZ is for more specific cases like this

but Vector2 is more general

[minor cosmos]

As a result, a Vector3 with properties x y z can conform to a VectorXZ, which only has properties x z. I get you

[valid wharf]

VectorXZ is only used in one method whereas Vector2 is used in 6.

[nova quiver]

Exactly my point

[minor cosmos]

So it makes the most sense to interpret it as a meaningful conversion of a 3D space into 2D, ignoring the y-position. Perfectly suitable for that method then, IMO

I would not want the movement input vector to be a VectorXZ because there isn't really any meaningful need for Xs and Zs to be world-spaced in that scenario. It's a different space entirely

[nova quiver]

Right. it can be interpreted in many different ways

So using the general XY makes the most sense

[minor cosmos]

It being X and Z implies there is some sort of rotation to go with it, which there shouldn't be. I guess a y-rotation of 0 would result in similar values if you were to look at the position delta of the player moving relative to that rotation ...

[mortal rampart]

If we used a Vector2 to represent something that is explictly X-Z, you could pass a Vector3 into it and maybe expect it to use the X and Z values, but in reality it would use the X and Y values.

So yeah, basically just a more meaningful conversion between Vec3 -> Vec2

[nova quiver]

Figured as much. It makes it easier to use that method

[valid wharf]

So Vec3 can covnert to Vec2 and VecXZ but not vice versa right? Not sure if JS autofills the missing params with 0.

[mortal rampart]

It doesn't

[nova quiver]

They're just objects. There's no real conversion going on

[valid wharf]

Now I'm curious if we'll see any other uses for VecXZ in the future.

[nova quiver]

Vec3 just happens to have the properties that both Vec2 and VecXZ contain

[valid wharf]

Yeah, but...JS being JS I would not be suprised 🙂

[minor cosmos]

Another way to look at what the function does is with a little pseudocode:

/**
 * @param {VectorXZ} locationXZ
 * @param {number} minHeight
 */
getTopMostBlock(locationXZ, minHeight?) {
  const {x, z} = locationXZ;
  // ...
}

[valid wharf]

I can see that happening.

[minor cosmos]

In theory the value passed into the argument for locationXZ could have any number of properties and it wouldn't matter (?), so long as X and Z are accessible

[nova quiver]

Uh huh. It doesn't have to be an actual VectorXZ object. Just as long as the object contains x and z properties.

Which is why you can also use Block as a Vector3, and subsequentially, VectorXZ too

[minor cosmos]

Fun question: Does having X Z properties in the prototype chain count for this purpose

[valid wharf]

What do you mean Block as Vector3?

[nova quiver]

Block has x, y, and z as direct properties, so it can be used wherever Vector3 is

[valid wharf]

😛 So it does.

[nova quiver]

So overworld.getTopmostBlock(block) works too xD

[valid wharf]

Now I'm curious why Block has xyz and location whereas Entities only have location.

[nova quiver]

Hmm, I guess it would be nice to use Entity as Vector3 too

[minor cosmos]

Yea, I would expect only the latter to exist if I wanted consistency

[valid wharf]

Would love to not have to do location.y + 2 or use a Vector Library.

[nova quiver]

But then again, you can also do getHeadLocation so there are two sets of coordinates you could get from an entity

[minor cosmos]

Vector libraries are the best, especially when home grown. Nothing tastes better

[nova quiver]

Also, why getHeadLocation() instead of just headLocation?

[minor cosmos]

Probably has to calculate where the head location is.

[valid wharf]

😛 Because ScriptAPI v1.X.X is very inconsistent and hopefully v2.X.X will solve that. I have many gripes with the current syntax.

[minor cosmos]

It's funny to think about, as it implies the head location is not constantly being updated but can be queried at any time

I wonder if it's some scripting performance concern

[nova quiver]

readonly properties can be "get methods" in disguise

[valid wharf]

😅 I'm just used to setters and getters from C++ so having some things just be .location instead of .getLocation() and .setLocation() is weird. Also .cancel not being a function.

[fervent musk]

same with getRotation()

[valid wharf]

I cannot wait to upgrade all my code to v2.X.X when it comes out 😛

[mortal rampart]

Generally (and it's not 100% consitent) "cheap" things to calculate are properties, and more "expensive" things to calculate are methods/functions

[azure charm]

Tbf even in C++ you dont use setters/getters too often

[jagged spire]

I love the slate block

[minor cosmos]

Made a "target-lock camera," improved by the new player input API. Regrettable that I cannot have a fixed boom-type camera natively track a target, but I guess this works well enough

Movement permissions are disabled, and I apply knockback to the player to move them. Rotation to the target is converted to a direction vector, and some additional vector math calculates the final direction that the player should be pushed in

[runic onyx]

that’s kinda cool, and trippy at times

[minor cosmos]

I need to make some additional changes to ensure the player maintains (more or less) the same distance from the target when they strafe around it

[fervent musk]

the problem with using knockback is knockback resistance

[minor cosmos]

Yea, it is unfortunately not as controlled as I would like.

If I were to develop beyond this proof-of-concept, I need to seriously consider the pros and cons of using the local player actor vs some other entity for the character's position.

The player actor works so well for visuals, but it is also very restricting.

The pig there is my attempt at putting a position on-screen with as minimal interpolation as possible. It's pretty close, but it does stutter.

It is animated purely with Molang. Its actual position is negated, then I control the model's location with actor properties.

[fervent musk]

yeah
the camera stuff are mostly used for different kinda of game play and you may not need to deal with armors
or you can just use dummy entity as a player, depend on the use case

[fervent musk]

nice

[north fiber]

I have always been wanting to create a good working train link system for minecarts. I have tried a few things but it never worked good enough. I suppose I can try again.

Some things recently are helpful

And camera will be fun to play around woth

With*

[dense forge]

It would be great to be able to integrate the aimassist cursor with the new input APIs.
While I could create my own cursor, it wouldn’t be client-side only, which could be a significant drawback in certain situations.

[fervent musk]

there is no player instance in playerButtonInput event?

[valid wharf]

https://stirante.com/script/server/1.17.0-beta.1.21.50-preview.28/classes/PlayerButtonInputAfterEvent.html

[fervent musk]

thanks