1.21.40.22 - Preview

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Minecraft Beta & Preview - 1.21.40.22

It's that day of the week!
A new Minecraft: Bedrock Edition Preview is out now!

Posted on · Sep 18, 2024, 3:59 PM

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first

Bedrock Dedicated Server for Minecraft Preview v1.21.40.22 is out now!

[past radish]

Minecraft Preview v1.21.40.22 is out now on the Microsoft Store!

[sonic meadow]

first

[hard ether]

h

[green anvil]

h

[coral hill]

Happy Preview Day to all who celebrate!

[limber flax]

Yo

[sleek shadow]

We got render distance

export class ClientSystemInfo extends SystemInfo{ private constructor(); readonly maxRenderDistance: number; readonly platformType: PlatformType;}

[buoyant cave]

Happy preview!

[buoyant cave]

Its my favourite holiday

[short blaze]

JIGSAW UPDATED!!

[limber flax]

Oooo

[short blaze]

though i didnt fully understand it yet

[hard ether]

danke @sage jungle <3 (and the scripting team too)

[latent pawn]

wait wait

no

this is cursed

why is the format version inside the object

[green anvil]

also, seems like other stuff is its own file now too

[latent pawn]

😭

[hard ether]

oh god no

[ruby needle]

this is sooo cool

[green anvil]

What

Wait that's cool

[hard ether]

@supple merlin !!!!

[latent pawn]

omg, it's like that for all the graphics features

[hot bronze]

slay

[hard ether]

whyyyy 😭

[latent pawn]

this is not standard at all!!!

[supple merlin]

@dire bridge

[turbid mesa]

Wild

[buoyant cave]

@short cypress You said it was the standard way! 😛

[stone badger]

👀

[short cypress]

Is this a bad design principle for JSON?

[calm crystal]

Erm what the deferred

[latent pawn]

generally, format_version is top-level

[supple merlin]

????

[latent pawn]

it's different from all the other json types

[supple merlin]

CHAT!!!

Chat!!!

[remote mango]

Camera relative movement is huge. I can finally progress with my project.

[supple merlin]

Chat!!!!

[limber flax]

You can negate fall damage now

[green anvil]

I saw

[hard ether]

There is no way

[rapid cliff]

Happy Preview Update \o/

[green anvil]

Let me check

[ruby needle]

cool, cool

[green anvil]

hold on

[stone badger]

time to learn jigsaw blocks

[limber flax]

There is a ui for jigsaw?

[blazing steppe]

JIGSAW

[ionic pumice]

wait what

[ruby needle]

wait

[ionic pumice]

ITS OUT???

[ruby needle]

huh

[latent pawn]

could we please get one more breaking change to move format_version out of that object?

[ionic pumice]

thw jigsaw???

block

[hard ether]

There is but there was no generate button and reloading the world would reset the jigsaw

[limber flax]

OMG

[blazing steppe]

it's coming home

[ionic pumice]

no way

finally

[ruby needle]

NO WAY

[limber flax]

Let's go

[latent pawn]

has the time come?

[ionic pumice]

dungeons lol

[blazing steppe]

i got so much work to do now...

[green anvil]

😔 no generate button tho

[blazing steppe]

soon tho

soon our time will come, poggy

[ionic pumice]

hopefully soon

[short cypress]

For consistency sake, or is there a functional reason that it makes a difference? That wrapper object will never change.

[turbid mesa]

Still no sign of entity.target leaving beta

[latent pawn]

just for consistency

[ruby needle]

i think it's like 2 + 2 on their side to add generate

probably even in the next preview

[latent pawn]

it's just really odd that it's within that object when every other file type doesn't have it in there

[blazing steppe]

the versioning is only for deferred btw right

[blazing steppe]

):

[buoyant cave]

It would be the only json file that follows that format 😦

[remote mango]

Although if you want to get picky about format version consistency, we should have a discussion about manifests and blocks.json

[limber flax]

How are we supposed to use it then

[wicked wraith]

What does this block do?

[buoyant cave]

Which would probably make schema validation templates etc harder as there needs to be a special exception for deferred files

[hard ether]

Probably not yet

[latent pawn]

mainly manifest

[blazing steppe]

we exercise our patience

[latent pawn]

blocks.json is prob going bye bye if the QnA has anything to say about it

[limber flax]

Next preview, trust 🤞

[short cypress]

Thanks for the information/tip! We'll definitely discuss this internally and weigh the pros/cons.

[ionic pumice]

im curious

does anyone know what the realm event is?

[limber flax]

What?

[supple merlin]

Yeah yeah ill data mine it

[buoyant cave]

Nice new features to minecraft:explode 🎉

[ionic pumice]

thanks

[latent pawn]

mark it under a spoiler plz

[ionic pumice]

yeah

[ruby needle]

what?

[latent pawn]

gotta keep the surprise for those who don't wanna know

[buoyant cave]

Add support for custom items with the "minecraft:block_placer" item component to use the referenced "block" as the icon for the item Oh nice qol change

[supple merlin]

I always do

[supple merlin]

Why are you late

[buoyant cave]

BECAUSE I WAS IN STANDUP

PLATFORM TYPE AND RENDER DISTANCE AAAAHHH

[sonic meadow]

*max render distance

Different thing

[ruby needle]

wait we can now get if player is in mobile or pc?

or OS?

[gilded crystal]

is the wind_burst component going to get obliterated since explode now does everything?

[latent pawn]

what sort of benefit does knowing platform type give?

[ruby needle]

a really cool addition for servers

[sonic meadow]

Controls and default performance

[gilded crystal]

IT WORKS :D!

[ruby needle]

so they can put mobile and pc players in diff places

[supple merlin]

Nah

[ruby needle]

?

[sonic meadow]

??

[latent pawn]

controls isn't guaranteed (I played xbox with keyboard), and memory tier is prob better for performance

[sage jungle]

/**
 * @beta
 * Describes what kind of platform is a device.
 */
export enum PlatformType {
    /**
     * @remarks
     * Specialized gaming device.
     *
     */
    Console = 'Console',
    /**
     * @remarks
     * Personal Computer (PC).
     *
     */
    Desktop = 'Desktop',
    /**
     * @remarks
     *  Handheld device such smartphone or tablet.
     *
     */
    Mobile = 'Mobile',
}

export class ClientSystemInfo extends SystemInfo {
    private constructor();
    /**
     * @remarks
     * The max render distance for the device in chunks.
     *
     */
    readonly maxRenderDistance: number;
    /**
     * @remarks
     * The platform type of the device.
     *
     */
    readonly platformType: PlatformType;
}

[ruby needle]

cool!

[supple merlin]

Please please test tags and fuel

I would rn

[trail imp]

Happy Preview, everyone!!

[supple merlin]

But im away

[grand creek]

huhhhh

[trail imp]

Banana day

[gilded crystal]

wdym? shouldn't fuel still work

[latent pawn]

way sooner than I was expecting

[supple merlin]

Thats what i meant

[gilded crystal]

or are you wanting to make "blocks" now work as fuel

[wicked wraith]

so now you can use the block as the icon of the item that has the "block placer" component?

[night relic]

I don't really get what would be the use for it tho

[latent pawn]

is the render distance returned the player's render distance setting, or the effective render distance due to the server render distance possibly being lower?

[gilded crystal]

yes, whatever the block identified in "minecraft:block_placer" is will become the 3D icon of the block if no icon is specified

[night relic]

I've never needed to do that in 4 years

[astral glacier]

seems like a step closer to replacing block items

[gilded crystal]

witerwawwy make mob heads

[latent pawn]

I assume it's the former, but that might be a bit odd to work with

[blazing steppe]

can make blocks that have item components now

[wicked wraith]

Moved PlayerInteractWithEntityBeforeEvent and PlayerInteractWithEntityAfterEvent from beta to 1.15.0```

finally

[blazing steppe]

like fuel

[limber flax]

ohh that's huge

[blazing steppe]

more medium sized in my opinion

[night relic]

Hmm true for mob heads. Though I don't know what else you could do.

[supple merlin]

Thats what im askimg koala to test

[gilded crystal]

do I really need to test that? It's still an item so it should work

[supple merlin]

This is Bedrock we're talking about

[limber flax]

yea it should

[astral glacier]

the default block item will still be given in some cases like pick block so that isn't properly possible

[night relic]

Hmm what happens if you set it to a block your not supposed to get like bubble column?

[gilded crystal]

well tags definitely work

[limber flax]

it feels targeted

[trail imp]

Uh oh... Someone's head is getting used as fuel

[limber flax]

why is the llama head looking away

[gilded crystal]

because that's how the model is rotated, It's not something I ever managed to fix

[limber flax]

offset rotation?

[gilded crystal]

because it's technically rotated right in the players hand

[supple merlin]

Lets...fucking...go

[gilded crystal]

It caused problems last time I tried

[limber flax]

works for me

[limber flax]

you should have to also change the rotation in permutations accordingly

[astral glacier]

that's because there's a bug where custom blocks are rotated 180 degrees in third person by default

[limber flax]

[supple storm]

!!!!!????

[gilded crystal]

what is the identifier of the end portal goo

[vocal totem]

CLIENT SCRIPTS LETS GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[astral glacier]

no

[latent pawn]

?

[green anvil]

😔 my SSR configs got reset after 10 previews

[trail imp]

Where was that even mentioned? What???

[limber flax]

weird

[stone badger]

huh????

[gilded crystal]

lol

set it to end_portal

[limber flax]

iirc that's not a llama head

[remote mango]

Am I a fool? I seemingly cannot make camera presets, I keep receiving this content log error:

[Camera][error]-Camera Preset file cameras/presets/cool.json has unrecognized fields: minecraft:camera_preset, align_camera_and_target_forward

[vocal totem]

They started to release client scripts, ClientSystemInnfo class

[hard ether]

That's not client scripting?

[latent pawn]

do you have the toggle on?

[trail imp]

Yeah, it's not

[latent pawn]

that property seems to be locked behind a toggle

[vocal totem]

Bro that's client info it's an advancement

[remote mango]

Yea, I do

[astral glacier]

more block solidity separation?

[trail imp]

That's still not client scripting

[long lichen]

lmfao

[remote mango]

The main object being an unrecognized field is concerning

[latent pawn]

we already had this class last preview, and it's not evidence of client scripting

[vocal totem]

Didn't say it was that good it's just a start

[hard ether]

Client scripting is separate though, it would run on the client rather than the server.

[latent pawn]

it's just giving info about a player's client

[trail imp]

^^^^^^

Both King and Majestik are carrying this convo

[vocal totem]

And that's part of it

[latent pawn]

it's not

as king said, client scripting is running on the client

any server APIs are unrelated

[vocal totem]

This may be a start of it, there has never been anything with the word client in the current scripting API before.

Whatever tho

[latent pawn]

client is just a word to describe the player's game

[remote mango]

Oh of course, I asked Minecraft to update and it didn't install 40.22

[vocal totem]

Ok?

[limber flax]

what's this

[latent pawn]

deferred rendering files

[hard ether]

The client just sends some information to the server upon joining it, and they're just allowing us to access it.

[stone badger]

i uh dunno, the first thing that comes into my mind when i see "client scripting" is stuff thats entirely client sided
and this one doesnt seem like one

[limber flax]

ahh

[ruby needle]

i don't personally think it's client scripting
if i were mojang, i would put it in @minecraft/client module

[latent pawn]

they're adding identifier to a lot of things, hope that means we can trigger different effects using them

[hybrid fulcrum]

hi

[green anvil]

Guess who's pack is already updated

[vocal totem]

Yeah I guess so but it might be a start. I mean, maybe this is just some classes that they will add and then release client scripting? Idk I just said it's a start.

[long lichen]

damn

[mellow niche]

damn
time to rewrite my bot

[ruby needle]

just accessing this info is not enough to be called "client side scripting"

Client side scripting should interact with the client, not get info from it

Ye, it may be the start

[latent pawn]

if I recall correctly, that was a module over a year ago that appeared for a version or two and then vanished

[trail imp]

Quite the speedrunner lol

[latent pawn]

if we see that again, then I'll think client scripting is coming

[vocal totem]

That's what I mean

Just might be the start

[hybrid fulcrum]

W

[vocal totem]

Tf

Never noticed bout it

[spark gyro]

The server API has tons of things that interact with the client before this

[vocal totem]

Tho it they bring it back

That means something

[latent pawn]

it was data-mined

never in-game

[vocal totem]

We might be getting client scripting soon

[spark gyro]

Lol, no

[vocal totem]

That's crazy

[ruby needle]

well, we hope

[hard ether]

It's still a thing actually

[vocal totem]

Ye

[hard ether]

They just removed @minecraft/client-ui

[latent pawn]

is it? thought it was removed since then

[ruby needle]

yea, i remember that

iirc it still exists but is not usable

[latent pawn]

ahhh

guess it's just been sitting there stale then

[trail imp]

That's good

[sonic meadow]

Are there any docs for client biomes yet?

[green anvil]

Seems to me that all biomes are now in the RP biomes folder

@sonic meadow

[sonic meadow]

Does end still use sky color?

[green anvil]

{
  "format_version": "1.21.40",
  "minecraft:client_biome": {
    "description": {
      "identifier": "the_end"
    },
    "components": {
      "minecraft:sky_color": {
        "sky_color": "#000000"
      },
      "minecraft:fog_appearance": {
        "fog_identifier": "minecraft:fog_the_end"
      },
      "minecraft:water_appearance": {
        "surface_color": "#62529e"
      }
    }
  }
}

[supple merlin]

Hell yeah

[sonic meadow]

Are there any sound definitions in those files?

[green anvil]

Not from what I can tell right now.

[ruby needle]

custom biomes fix soon? (probably yeah)

[gilded rune]

BETA DAY

[spark gyro]

I just realized something. Wouldn't this make client biomes the only json in RP that uses components?

Besides old block/item JSONs from 1.10

[limber flax]

W

[sonic meadow]

particles?

[spark gyro]

Oh. Right

Silly me

[green anvil]

Also I really feel like they're gonna use the client biomes files for deferred's per-biome stuff.

[rapid cliff]

Spawn rules can limit spawning to certain blocks. They did it for fish (not spawning in bubble columns), hoglins (not on nether wart blocks), so it's nothing new

[remote mango]

OK, I got the camera to register. Seems align_camera_and_target_forward is not supported in the 1.21.40 camera schema currently

[dire bridge]

sheeesh

[sonic meadow]

I wonder what's the reason for locking max rendering distance query to client side-only, since we have an equivalent scripting api...

[ruby needle]

yea, pretty weird

[astral glacier]

how would the server know which client to get the max distance from?

[remote mango]

For anyone wondering: align_camera_and_target_forward must actually be align_target_and_camera_forward. Then it works

[sonic meadow]

Ig that would be a good way to encourage usage of API and discourage everything else... Hold on, I need to find my tinfoil hat

[spark gyro]

It could be context based, so it only works in player-used molang

[latent pawn]

yeah, wonder how they're going to go about it though

one component per each file type?

or one big deferred component?

[remote mango]

Ahh, it works so well, but we still cannot use target_entity with minecraft:third_person_boom. So close!

[trail imp]

😭
https://github.com/MCMrARM/mc-w10-versiondb

[latent pawn]

meanwhile: https://github.com/MinecraftBedrockArchiver/Metadata

[trail imp]

Would I even be able to use it with the launcher I use?

[remote mango]

Setting align_target_and_camera_forward to false lets you move "forward" independently from the camera. You can sprint in any direction by double-tapping that direction. Also disables using mouse input for player rotation

[latent pawn]

ik MCMrArm launcher supports custom urls, but idk if it'll work with that one in specific

[trail imp]

wbfviwerbglirehwbgvew

I have to re-compile it 😭

[latent pawn]

you'd have to rewrite a bit of code

[trail imp]

That too

That's it guys

[latent pawn]

I have my own launcher

[trail imp]

I'm coding my own launcher (real)

[long lichen]

thats cool

[timid musk]

ooooh

[trail imp]

Would be useful, though

[latent pawn]

(my launcher is not using the repo I sent though, I should really switch to it)

[trail imp]

You should

[mellow niche]

huh
dose the player actually rotate then or is it just an animation

[remote mango]

Looks as if the player's y-rotation changes depending on movement direction

Said movement direction is still relative to the camera direction, but not locked forward

[spark gyro]

Huh. Snappy

[remote mango]

Is a bit snappy, yes. Could probably be improved by adjusting a client side animation

[mellow niche]

look a little like @stone badger addon

[gilded rune]

Alr see ya later everyone

[supple merlin]

Hell yeah

[trail imp]

Gotta love this preview

[gilded rune]

Jigsaw is being updated on bedrock!

[trail imp]

About time!!

[spark gyro]

Is there a point in putting this in How to Play when you need to make a behaviour pack to make custom structures?

[trail imp]

in-game documentation (real)

[supple merlin]

Better ingame docs than external

[timid musk]

just to make sure

[spark gyro]

Might as well document how to make addons in there too

[supple merlin]

Its still teaching how to use blocks

[timid musk]

is Jigsaw block now working like Java?

[supple merlin]

Completely different

[spark gyro]

Jigsaw blocks are only useful with addons

[supple merlin]

This is teaching how to use an ingame block

[supple merlin]

Doesnt matter?

[spark gyro]

Yes

[timid musk]

ah fuck, so they don't actually make us possible to generate a vanilla structure?

[supple merlin]

Why are you against it?

[spark gyro]

Because it's pointless

[supple merlin]

It really isnt

More docs is good

[neat nest]

jo finally jigsaws are useful

[spark gyro]

This only benefits people who work with addons, and those people rely on external documentation

[supple merlin]

So what?

Its still teaching how to use an ingame block

[spark gyro]

This is useless to anyone not working with addons. And those who do don't use how to play

[supple merlin]

Which is the purpose regardless if its for addons only or not

[supple merlin]

So what?

[spark gyro]

So it's pointless to have it there

[supple merlin]

Only the mc community would complain about docs

[spark gyro]

It would be better if it were in the microsoft docs online

[supple merlin]

Why not both???

The existence of ingame does not mean it cannot bein ms docs

Its much easier to deploy ingame first than writing the ms docs

[spark gyro]

There's no point of it being ingame is what I'm saying

[supple storm]

All the How to play is pointless then, just works to make custom guides from addons

[supple merlin]

.

[remote mango]

Then you bring bad faith into the argument

[spark gyro]

The how to play section is for general gameplay. Everything you see in it applies to the average player

[supple merlin]

People will see the jigsaw and wonder whats it for. Then if they see the how to play, theyll understand ah, its for addons. Which might help kickstart their joruneu

Any help or push to expose people to the api is a good thing

[spark gyro]

They'll think it serves some purpose ingame, which it doesn't

What would be helpful is if how to play had an external link to addon documentation

[supple merlin]

In the inevitable jigsaws allow you to roll vanilla structures what then?

[supple merlin]

They can add both yes

But since the docs arent up yet...

[spark gyro]

It still requires an addon for it work at all

[supple merlin]

Not in Java, so why not Bedrock? Im saying when we do get the ability to place vanilla structure

[spark gyro]

If it can place structures ingame by itself, then fine

[supple merlin]

Yes....future proof bc why not?

[mellow niche]

@remote mango how do i set align_camera_and_target_forward state

[remote mango]

It must be done through a camera preset. Read this introduction to camera presets if you haven't set one up before: https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/minecraft/creator/documents/camerasystem/cameracommandintroduction

Then in the properties within "minecraft:camera_preset", set "align_target_and_camera_forward": false

[mellow niche]

oh
i thought it is a command thing

thanks

[remote mango]

I have decided that, while the new camera-relative feature is cool, I still need one more thing to start on my project, and that is a way to combine target_entity with camera-relative movement

[trail imp]

Much better launcher

[drowsy geode]

Hi 👋
The Jigsaw block changes are a step in the path to data-drive jigsaw structures for creators (to make custom structures and structure sets that generate like vanilla structures). The block itself is a great way for players to dip their toes in to creating. There will absolutely be more official documentation in the learning portal that will be available as other features are released over time. We are hoping to release the combined functionality in the first part of next year.

[trail imp]

Is this the year for Minecraft Bedrock Edition?

[green anvil]

This is exciting!! :)

[drowsy geode]

Every year is the year for Minecraft Bedrock Edition!

[trail imp]

:D

[green anvil]

Curious, the block right now is still pretty useless due to no generate button, correct?

I mean, the answer might be obvious haha ^^'

[spare marlin]

You're lucky this update got pushed fast, there's usually a delay of up to 24h

[trail imp]

Yeah. The MC W10 version switcher didn't update their list since like a week 😭

[drowsy geode]

Well, you need to define the structure pools and have a way to hook them into the system to generate the structure, so yes. The design here will allow us to test all that internally in bedrock to make sure it's working. You'll see more ways to use that block release in experimental soon.™️

[mellow niche]

was that how it work?
i thought you just save it with a structure and that structure execute stuff as it get loaded

[spare marlin]

That because I was supposed to add last week's Preview but instead readded the one from two weeks ago... 😅
But yeah we're only 4 updating the list so it really depends on our irl schedule
You can check the option "Download form Microsoft Store" to get automatic updates but it makes the app slower.

[rapid cliff]

Imagine relying on MrArms switcher to update to Preview... couldn't be me 💁‍♂️

[green anvil]

Oh that's awesome! And I assume it'll work similar to Java Edition? Or will Bedrock have its own way of doing it?

[frigid fiber]

This but unironically

[drowsy geode]

That's top secret!
We're working with the Java team in an effort to do the right thing that works across platforms to let more folks do more things. 😉

[green anvil]

👀

[trail imp]

W

[drowsy geode]

Honestly, the Jigsaw block and structure system is VERY complex. I don't even know how it works. 🤷‍♀️ That why I surround myself with people much smarter than me!

[remote mango]

Story of my life

[hard ether]

I’m very excited for jigsaws.

[green anvil]

I believe in you guys!! ^^

[spark gyro]

Has anyone checked to see if sky colour works properly in the the end yet?

[green anvil]

I can check for you

Still the same as last week

[night relic]

I'm curious if the jigsaw will support custom structures

[green anvil]

In what way?

[supple merlin]

Why wouldnt it?

[remote mango]

Forewarning: Do not combine ease with minecraft:follow_orbit and camera-relative movement. Each time the camera is applied the camera direction is set to the player's rotation, which can be nauseating if applied every tick

/camera @p set test:relative ease 0.05 in_out_cubic

[supple merlin]

Whats the result?

[night relic]

Has it been confirmed?

[supple merlin]

Im just trying to think. We cant edit vanilla structures, what else could it mean?

[remote mango]

(Take caution if you are photosensitive)

[gilded crystal]

can't edit YET

[sage jungle]

I didn't think I was, but after that video I am realizing that maybe I am lol

[night relic]

If we can use custom structures do you think they would include .mcstructure support as well or stick with .nbt like Java.

[supple merlin]

Oh dear.... you dont have the speed effect right? Thats interesting

Docs are updated

[sterile oak]

MAX RENDER DISTANCE QUERY

TYSM MOJANG

[spark gyro]

Could you link the camera json?

Paste I mean

[remote mango]

{
    "format_version": "1.21.40",
    "minecraft:camera_preset": {
        "identifier": "test:relative",
        "inherit_from": "minecraft:follow_orbit",
        "align_target_and_camera_forward": false,
        "radius": 5
    }
}

[frigid fiber]

I've been so lazy reading the camera changes, if anyone wants to post a big document of all the new camera features with examples and videos since say /camera got added, I would be so happy

[supple merlin]

Sounds like an Ersatz or Sprunkles thing to pester about

Or Ciosciaa

[remote mango]

I'm flattered

[frigid fiber]

I guess an easier project would be this: right now I only use cameras for scripted cutscene paths, any improvements to that I should be aware of?

[pure gale]

I'm a bit late, but could this mean we're like 1 step closer to being able to work with jigsaw blocks?

[supple merlin]

Yes

[silent canopy]

With the jigsaw being worked on and custom components being stable maybe custom biomes are making a comeback?

[mellow niche]

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[remote mango]

There are only a limited number of applications of camera for gameplay scenarios currently.

• With free cameras, /camera <player> target_entity <target> can set a camera to follow an entity every frame
• Follow orbit camera is like third person but you can set positional view offsets (relative to camera) and entity offsets (relative to entity)
• This preview just now introduced camera-relative movement, which for all intents and purposes works like third person but the player's rotation adjusts to their movement direction
  And a couple more that I probably forgot or didn't mention

[supple merlin]

Intriguing

Even the internal files are being restructured

[spark gyro]

How do I set up presets again?

[silent canopy]

Does that have anything to do with differed?

[remote mango]

BP/cameras/presets/file.json

[supple merlin]

Oh?

YAY, all biomes now have their own client file

[latent pawn]

gotta toss a bit of snake_case in there too

[gilded crystal]

oooh time to check something

[pure gale]

Many thanks

[spark gyro]

I wonder if there are more components

[frigid fiber]

Can you clarify a bit about the third one? One of the small issues I had with custom third person cameras was how pressing W was always relative to the player, not the camera. Does this help kind of pull them into sync like in a normal third person RPG-type game?

[supple merlin]

For?

[spark gyro]

Oh the reply didn't work. I'm talking about client biomes

[supple merlin]

Unfortunately i couldnt find anything using string search in the .exe

WaterAppearance and FogAppearance are the only ones that are new

Almost got baited...

Every biome json file got updated and so did features....

But it was just for the flatenning

LOL???

The Github samples show the how to play jigsaw section but the ingame one does not???

Success

[frigid fiber]

I'm glad these client properties made it to scripting, molang is nice and all but you can't really show text with it

[wicked wraith]

Can this be used to create large structures? for example the woodland mansion?

[trail imp]

Who isn't :D

[trail imp]

W

[supple merlin]

Wait...you dont even need block placer?

[latent pawn]

for?

[supple merlin]

Ok no you deffo need it...it doesnt register the block, cant setblock

Ah pick blocking still doesnt work

[wicked wraith]

since the last version there are folders with the name "__brarchive" What does this mean?

[supple merlin]

They're just zipped folders

Damn

[sterile oak]

What file is that

[supple merlin]

This is my own generated

Ots what i expected...o thought it overrode the itemstack but it does not

[latent pawn]

what was your render distance set to when generating this one?

and was that your max render distance?

[supple merlin]

16

[latent pawn]

aw

well there goes my uses for that

[supple merlin]

Were you expecting to get their renderdist?

[ionic pumice]

did anyone figure out what the realms thing was

[latent pawn]

yeah

[supple merlin]

Copy pasted from last week ot seems

Couldnt find any assets

[ionic pumice]

rip

[brazen night]

i wish they let us change the max render distance

[copper hill]

what does it? it is for any custom items to use a geometry or do I have to create a block that uses tha geometry and then specify it as icon? or it is just for the block items?

[spark gyro]

You can make an item that looks like a block and places the block on use

[supple merlin]

Otherway around?

[spark gyro]

What? Make a block that looks like an item?

[copper hill]

so I cannot still make wearable items like chestplate to looke like the 3D on hand?

[spark gyro]

You can already do that with attachables

[copper hill]

with attachable you can do only when equipped to the body, on hand I can only use the icon, or m I wrong?

[supple merlin]

Well, i mean both works

Unfortunately, pick block is still bugged it seems

[spark gyro]

You know how tridents have a 3d model when you see them in your hand? Well the same can be done with custom items

[supple merlin]

Really got excited. Regardless a step in the right direction

[copper hill]

yea but that only works with weapons that is actually on the place it supposed to be, on hand... but dont work with wearable equipments

[spark gyro]

I see.

[icy sparrow]

hot

[spark gyro]

So, is it that you can register an item and block with the same name, and the item has a block placer, the item is the one that shows up in give commands and creative inventory?

[supple merlin]

Correct

But if you dont have block placer you cant do setblock at all

[spark gyro]

That makes sense

[supple merlin]

But pick blocking makes it give the block form

[spark gyro]

And if you mine it, do you get the block, or the item?

[supple merlin]

Didnt test

[gilded crystal]

They don't even need to have the same name

it will just inherit the block icon from whatever block is in block_placer

[coral halo]

3d custom items inside the inventory?

wait,

[spark gyro]

I know, but I say same name incase there's any behaviour in that scenario

[gilded crystal]

they'll all show up in commands, I think you'd just have to specify that they don't

[spark gyro]

So what if they have the same name?

[coral halo]

item & block

damn,

[gilded crystal]

like they're both runecraft:llama_head_brown?

[spark gyro]

yes

[supple merlin]

Only the item shows up. And if block placer isnt specified then you cant setblock

[gilded crystal]

mine is the opposite, only the block is showing up

[supple merlin]

How do you know its the block?

[gilded crystal]

I can't put it on my head

[supple merlin]

More testing needed

[coral halo]

wait a moment, my brain isn't braining..

is that used for rendering the item 3D inside the inventory or something?

[supple merlin]

Skulls

[gilded crystal]

what was the thing where you can disable something being available with commands/creative?

[supple merlin]

Best example

[gilded crystal]

is that not a thing anymore

[coral halo]

having custom skull items that can be used to place the skull block and be able to equip them?

[supple merlin]

Yes

[coral halo]

jeez that's soo useful

fun fact,
i could have done that using scripts

luckily for me i wasn't really interested in having custom skulls.

[gilded crystal]

now if only they could fix the rotation

[spark gyro]

Right. Wait, so if only the item form shows up, how do you know that it's the block you got when block picking?

[supple merlin]

Video in 30m

[blazing steppe]

15m remain

[supple merlin]

Ah, interesting, i fiddled around now and fixed the no block placer not registering the block

Annoyingly....

We need that swappable property from Java's wearable

And pick blocking:

[sage jungle]

wait thats illegal

[supple merlin]

[coral halo]

interesting..

[gilded crystal]

weird, so yours was giving you the item instead of the block, and mine gave me the block instead of the item

[supple merlin]

The head item display transform now makes sense

[buoyant cave]

Nice hat

[gilded crystal]

now waiting for the add-on where someone built a script that turns all blocks into mob heads

[supple merlin]

Please do not make me distracted

[gilded crystal]

I know you can do it

[supple merlin]

I have many things to do right now...please no

[rare cape]

Am I the single who don't like the jigsaw ui ? I think it's not at all intuitive compared with the structure block which is a lot

Also it's not oreUi style 😐

[spark gyro]

I don't think they're at that stage to give blocks Ore UI menus 🤔

[supple merlin]

Furnace will be the first test subject

[coral halo]

also, what does that jugsaw do?
probably a structures thing idk about it

[spark gyro]

It's for making custom structures

But we don't have that ability just yet

[coral halo]

huge structures like fortress?

[rare cape]

you see, the interface don't help to understand how it works

[spark gyro]

Yeah

[coral halo]

i think it basically not working at all

[spark gyro]

Not like features

[spark gyro]

How would you suggest they do it?

[rare cape]

no but it's the same problem in java, also in my memories java structure block ui is as clear as jigsaw

[craggy tartan]

How is the UI unclear? It can't show anything because it's used to generate structures.

[coral halo]

does anyone know how it works tho?

[rare cape]

idk I just find the structure block ui too good and it's probably possible to make something easier to understand

[coral halo]

if it can load multiple structures at the same time to load huge structure, i will be using it on my next project

so, how it works?

[rare cape]

me idk but the ui doesn't make me interested with compared with the structure block

[craggy tartan]

Jigsaws help with structure generation. They're used to chain a bunch of structures together to make things like villages.

[coral halo]

yes, i need to do something like that

in my next project, maybe next year,

[craggy tartan]

Could probably use it as a dungeon generator too.

[gilded crystal]

It's name is a hint, jigsaw puzzle

[coral halo]

jugsaw >

so, they changed the jugsaw UI, maybe in the 1.25 update they will make it functional

[rare cape]

Also it's me or the render of water is broken ?

[thorny egret]

Probably since they switched to client biomes and they don't use water surface transparency

Has anyone noticed the destructible tags aren't working?

[supple merlin]

In this preview?

Or did it start last

[thorny egret]

I'm not sure, I've just noticed today it doesn't work 😭

[stone badger]

MY DREAM CAME TRUE

HOLY SH

[rare cape]

ghost ping

[edgy trench]

Do you know the bug report number for this I can’t find it

[supple merlin]

They said it was fixed in 1.21.30

You can use the new display transforms for custom blocks anywqys

[edgy trench]

I am in game rn and the blocks are still facing the wrong way

[gusty furnace]

When is the 1.21.40 release expected to come to stable?

[supple merlin]

Who knows

[calm crystal]

Probably 2 weeks after the first 1.21.50 preview comes out

[gusty furnace]

Based on the start and end of 1.21.30, it looks like they go about a month

So probably late October

[wicked wraith]

I saw something like that in last week's snapshot, can the image say that it will also be possible to do this in Bedrock?

[grave quest]

aint now way they split all up

I am cooked

[stone badger]

god damnit

[spark gyro]

Someone had to do it

[stone badger]

seeing eating animation with a block makes me wonder more how the anims for first person items even work

[spark gyro]

Do you need an attachable for this to work properly?

Looks like something that shouldn't need an attachable to work

[stone badger]

yeah, considering carved pumpkins...

[hard ether]

LETS GOO!!

[hard ether]

You do

It’s still technically an item qwq

[spark gyro]

this feature is almost perfect. It just needs to work properly with block picking and when worn on the head.

Oh, and the give command too. It shares the same problem as block picking

[trail imp]

Yummy 😋

[trail imp]

Never thought I'd see you so excited for someone eating dirt /j

[spark gyro]

This is more of QOL, but they should also revisit use priority. It's not so intuitive when you can place the block and consume at the same time. If you're going to place, you do it without attempting to eat it.

But if you're not aiming at a block, it's fair game

[grave quest]

they gotta fix this fast

i can't use water editing

[hard ether]

https://fxtwitter.com/gegybeans/status/1770463668959932524

[trail imp]

Tastes good as well /j

[supple merlin]

I didnt need

Mines automatically rendered

Are you using the built in geo?

[spark gyro]

Yes

[supple merlin]

Wack, didnt have that problem

Could you send your code here

[spark gyro]

Actually, wait I'm not using any geo, I'm relying solely on blocks.json

[supple merlin]

Another blocks.json L

Try again with the geo component

[spark gyro]

Ok now it works

So it's just /give and block picking that have issues.

There's also now the oversight of the fact that the wearable component forces you to have a max stack size of 1, so you can't have a block with a normal stack size and be wearable at the same time

[supple merlin]

Oh you're still having /give issues?

[spark gyro]

Actually, no, I'm not

I guess I didn't test it properly

[supple merlin]

There is a tiny workaround I can think of, havent tested it:
On Use -> Custom Component trigger -> replaceitem

[limber flax]

In what way is /give not working

[spark gyro]

nevermind. It's working fine

[limber flax]

-# huh

[spark gyro]

I was testing with dirt, so I must've confused the identifiers

That's what I get for gaming past 12

[supple merlin]

Haha

[spark gyro]

So it's just block picking then and the max_stack_size/wearable conflict

[limber flax]

I am honoured to have my name mentioned in the Minecraft's code

[supple merlin]

@spark gyro if you have time right now, could you try this workaround? But there's still the issue ig of not able to shift click. Can you shift click vanilla skulsl onto your head?

[spark gyro]

Yes

And I can't try the workaround rn, sorry

[limber flax]

Iirc you can't shift click skulls on your head

[spark gyro]

Yes you can

[limber flax]

Oh

[limber flax]

But can you do it when you already have a helmet on

[spark gyro]

That's a different action you're asking about. If you have helmet on, you can't shift click anything into the slot

Also, I just noticed something. The custom item doesn't have that smooth animation when hopping from one slot to another

[limber flax]

Ic that's why I mistaken it with shift clicking skulls

[astral glacier]

only for the UI afaik, not in hand or on head

Fixed a bug where all custom blocks were rotated 180 degrees in the UI

[ancient schooner]

Why

[trail imp]

That's worse 😭

Unless they have more options

[supple merlin]

standards

[limber flax]

WHY

[ancient schooner]

"no" | "yes" | "maybe" | "kinda"

[trail imp]

"kinda" LMAO

[limber flax]

just add "nuh uh" at this point

[trail imp]

I'm dying LOL

[supple merlin]

"Yes but only on certain circumstances that is hardcoded and cannot be reimplemented via filters"

[ancient schooner]

The perfect option

[limber flax]

where is it in the code

[ancient schooner]

1.21.40.22 -> parrot, ocelot, cat and one other file

[limber flax]

ok thanks

[cosmic jacinth]

That's sick! And good to see u

[stone badger]

it does look sick

imagine the potentials

[dusky crow]

wait wait wait, so this mean that it can place a block without needing a script??

[limber flax]

It uses the block_placer tag

[dusky crow]

oh

well still handy

[hard ether]

It’s always been a thing, they just allowed us to have a block as an icon

[ruby needle]

it was always there, and was not a hcf feature

[pure gale]

Is there a list of all the new vanilla items we can edit?

[ancient schooner]

Anything you can see in the vp's iirc

[supple merlin]

And the windowsapp

[ancient schooner]

Right yeah that too

[pure gale]

Where can I find said files?

[drowsy walrus]

Window Apps Folder

The Window Apps Folder has additional files, not available in the VRP/VBP downloads.

Location: ProgramFiles/WindowsApps/someminecraftfolderuwp

How to get Access: https://www.maketecheasier.com/access-windowsapps-folder-windows-10/

Sep 20, 2024, 12:02 AM

[supple merlin]

@pure gale

[pure gale]

Thank you very much

[supple merlin]

Wow there's no more default for the client biomes I realised. You have to specifically tell the biome that it uses the fog_default one

[thorny coral]

thats cool

we can make block as a fuel now

by faking it using item and block placer

[limber flax]

Can we add item custom components though

[blazing steppe]

i don't see why not

[ancient schooner]

I wonder how those'd work if the block has an onPlace and the item has an OnUseOn

I wonder if they're hoping that people just don't use them together?

[latent pawn]

don't see why it wouldn't just trigger both

[ancient schooner]

Yeah, I imagine that is the case

[untold nacelle]

Is the jigsaw block working then?

[supple merlin]

No

[untold nacelle]

Ripp

[untold nacelle]

U have Any idea when it cld be?

[spare marlin]

Hopefully "first part of next year" - Mojang

[untold nacelle]

That's too FARRR

I WANT IT NOW

[limber flax]

Not that far

[green anvil]

Y'all would probably also have to learn Jigsaws when they're out too.

[limber flax]

That means 6 more moths

(Idk)