1.21.30.21 - Preview

[summer cargo]

they're namespacing block tags now yay

[shadow temple]

Why they dont just use javas tag system....

Or just javas tag

[glacial thorn]

File name?

[ocean viper]

You can find them by searching in the exe file

[dense bough]

I was under the impression they weren't gonna continue using the current tag system

[brave lynx]

These don’t seem any different

from what we have now

[agile spruce]

looks like all I can find as well

wonder what that tool one is?

[dense bough]

What isminecraft:is_digger_item_destructible?

Just neds digger component I guess

[agile spruce]

tool and digger ones are weird

[ocean viper]

Digger is probably any item with digger component?

[dense bough]

ya prob

[agile spruce]

weird that they used "hachet" instead of "axe"

[dense bough]

Maybe translation?

[earnest gate]

Yea I can't get these to work unless my brain isn't braining

[agile spruce]

sorta defeats the purpose of digger at that point

[agile spruce]

is_axe exists

[ocean viper]

They work for me

[earnest gate]

can I see how you did it, please?

[dense bough]

Not sure how there's a dif way to do it

[ocean viper]

"tag:minecraft:iron_tier_destructible": {}

[earnest gate]

Yea, I did that

[brave lynx]

do the vanilla picks work with custom blocks now?

[dense bough]

Okay no idea then

[agile spruce]

are these applied on vanilla blocks? can you reference them in a digger component?

[glacial thorn]

<shaking you roughly>...... what exe?

[ocean viper]

Don’t use both is_pick_item and iron_tier for example

[agile spruce]

the minecraft one

the nearly 1 GB one

it stalled my pc opening it

[ocean viper]

A- In the Minecraft files

[spiral siren]

You guys still need the tags?

[dense bough]

Wouldn't make much sense with the current digger since you would have the same speed for every single block under that tag.

[spiral siren]

Try these:

• minecraft:is_digger_item_destructible
• minecraft:is_hatchet_item_destructible
• minecraft:is_hoe_item_destructible
• minecraft:is_pickaxe_item_destructible
• minecraft:is_shears_item_destructible
• minecraft:is_shovel_item_destructible
• minecraft:is_tool_item_destructible
• minecraft:is_sword_item_destructible
• minecraft:is_mace_item_destructible
• minecraft:wood_tier_destructible
• minecraft:stone_tier_destructible
• minecraft:iron_tier_destructible
• minecraft:diamond_tier_destructible
• minecraft:gold_tier_destructible
• minecraft:netherite_tier_destructible

[agile spruce]

or not???

[ocean viper]

It’s pinned

[agile spruce]

i swear it was bigger

[earnest gate]

yep. I only use the one you gave but iron pickaxe doesn't increase the speed of it for some reason.

[spiral siren]

ah ok 👍

[agile spruce]

I think it's more of a speed modifier

it's not a flat out speed

[sullen hatch]

https://youtu.be/qcDwKiQhnmc

[agile spruce]

each block still has its own break speed, your digger component is a modifier on that

if that's not how it's working atm, then that's scuffed

[dense bough]

The speed object is required though afaik? Does the tag overide that?

[ocean viper]

Nevermind, it needs it but looks like lower tier can still break it faster?

[agile spruce]

you'd still have the speed object

but it's a modifier, not a set time

[dense bough]

Yes yes

[agile spruce]

doesn't matter if the vanilla blocks don't actually use it tho

[brave lynx]

Can someone who is testing it

[agile spruce]

need to test that

[brave lynx]

Check if vanilla tools

now break custom blocks faster

[ocean viper]

#1268596457536229437 message

[earnest gate]

I have both

and I also tested with just 1

[ocean viper]

{
  ...
  "minecraft:destructible_by_mining": {
    "seconds_to_destroy": 5
  },
  "tag:minecraft:is_pickaxe_item_destructible": {},
  "tag:minecraft:netherite_tier_destructible": {}
}

This is what I did

[brave lynx]

If they do nothing then what was the point of them adding them as tags

[ocean viper]

Though an iron pick can still break it faster than bare hand

[brave lynx]

wait wait

an iron pickaxe

[earnest gate]

I'll text again

[brave lynx]

can break a custom block faster

?

[ocean viper]

Yeah

[earnest gate]

Yea no I have the same result. speed is the same.

[remote sphinx]

that confirmed working?

[ocean viper]

Format version?

I’m using 1.21.30

[remote sphinx]

format ver maybe

[earnest gate]

am using 1.21.30

[brave lynx]

Maybe you typed a single letter wrong

[earnest gate]

nop

[brave lynx]

But still how do we make it break at a faster speed

Like instead of just a little bit

[summer cargo]

the digger component in the item defines the speed

[earnest gate]

vanilla tools probs has a multiplier

[ocean viper]

I don't think you can specify a speed for vanilla items

[brave lynx]

So here

Let’s try something out

King since you have it working

Put on the iron destructible one for an iron pickaxe

and give the custom block the tag stone

let me know what happens

[ocean viper]

Nothing happens

[earnest gate]

Yea I can't get them working for some reason.

[spiral siren]

try removing the minecraft namespace?

[earnest gate]

Alrighty

[ocean viper]

Pretty sure the minecraft namespace is required

[spiral siren]

doesn't hurt to try.

[brave lynx]

The speed is still faster than your hand right?

[earnest gate]

Still no worky

[ocean viper]

Nope

[brave lynx]

with that setup?

[remote sphinx]

it worked for me

[earnest gate]

How 😭

[dense bough]

Not working for me

[ocean viper]

I tried with only stone and iron_tier_destructible

Same speed as hand

[earnest gate]

send me your entire block. I have to be doing something wrong.

[agile spruce]

without is_pickaxe_item_destructible?

[remote sphinx]

ok

[ocean viper]

Yeah

[brave lynx]

What is the one that sped up your speed

[agile spruce]

u prob need that

otherwise it won't know the tool

[ocean viper]

You do but iron_tier_destructible doesn’t do anything

no matter the tier

[agile spruce]

hm

[dense bough]

Yah no work

[ocean viper]

Wooden pickaxe will still mine faster

[remote sphinx]

seems to be rather buggy rn then

[brave lynx]

but with what tag

what tag does that

I also don’t get why mojang didn’t just make it so that the block tags we have make vanilla blocks mine them faster lol

[ocean viper]

is_pickaxe_item_destructible

[brave lynx]

try that with the stone one

[ocean viper]

Specifying the tier changes nothing, every pickaxe will still mine faster no matter the tier but at different speeds

[remote sphinx]

maybe if you just use the tier tag? idk

[brave lynx]

this makes no sense

[ocean viper]

It will mine at the same speed as hand

[dense bough]

Safe to say this implantation is.. lacking

[brave lynx]

These new tags don’t seem to be helping much

[shadow temple]

Why dont they just use javas tag

[ocean viper]

I love Java’s tagging system

[dense bough]

https://tenor.com/view/nicolas-cage-you-dont-say-oh-really-sarcastic-gif-16222959

[brave lynx]

I don’t get why they didn’t just make it so that vanilla tools are effected by the block tags they gave us

[dense bough]

Be too easy

[brave lynx]

At least as a temporary thing until they make a new system

It makes no sense that they’d add in these new tags and have it do pretty much nothing at all

[earnest gate]

Idk but these tag stuff wants to work for some people

[brave lynx]

Even if you get them to, they don’t seem to be very useful

[dense bough]

is_pickaxe_item_destructible works for me

[brave lynx]

Yes but that seems to be the only one

[dense bough]

Did anyone try turning on toggles just in case?

[ocean viper]

I already have the toggle on

[brave lynx]

@earnest gate

[earnest gate]

toggle?

[shadow temple]

Thats why i asked you to test it lol

[brave lynx]

upcoming creator features

[shadow temple]

I dont pull things out of my ass

[ocean viper]

I know I know

[earnest gate]

:/

experimental. I mean, that's fine.

[ocean viper]

Really disappointed about the redstone component not working

[brave lynx]

I have a theory

I think it’s like the tick component (custom components)

[shadow temple]

Just like custom components in the first prwview

[ocean viper]

Mhm

[ocean viper]

hmm

[dense bough]

Well I guess basically everything we were excited for is broken lol

[brave lynx]

Yep seems so

and we have gotten no messages from the devs either on either of the features so far

[agile spruce]

so tier tags don't functionally do anything?

[brave lynx]

But hey we got far

[brave lynx]

nope

apparently not

[earnest gate]

It's experimental

UCF

[ocean viper]

Tiers don’t do anything

[brave lynx]

What was the point of these things then

[agile spruce]

what about when those tier tags are used in digger?

does it allow referencing vanilla ores?

[dense bough]

Maybe they did not provide the tags cause it wasn't ready. Was it suppposed to even be in changelog?

[ocean viper]

Don’t think vanilla stuff use them yet

[agile spruce]

vanilla items reference the pickaxe tag, so worth giving blocks a shot

[earnest gate]

I can finally retire them

[agile spruce]

[dense bough]

Which tag you using?

[earnest gate]

Did you enable Upcomming Creator Features?

[dense bough]

me?

[earnest gate]

yes

[dense bough]

Yes

[ocean viper]

minecraft:is_pickaxe_item_destructible

[earnest gate]

Tiers do nothing but is it a bug maybe?

[ocean viper]

Looks like it

[dense bough]

Yah okay same thing I was using

[brave lynx]

They added that ability there but no way to actually define the speed

[dense bough]

ik how to fix...

complain on twitter

[brave lynx]

Or at least change it with a tag

[earnest gate]

I wonder how long it will stay experimental

[agile spruce]

so to be clear, all you need is "tag:minecraft:is_pickaxe_item_destructible": {}?

[earnest gate]

yes

[ocean viper]

Yeah

[dense bough]

ye

[brave lynx]

Well

my life is complete now

Except for silk touch waterlogging pick block

But I can pretend

[dense bough]

{
    "format_version": "1.21.30",
    "minecraft:block": {
        "description": {
            "identifier": "ihg:block"
        },
        "components": {
            "tag:minecraft:is_pickaxe_item_destructible": {},
            "minecraft:material_instances": {
                "*": {
                    "texture": "cobblestone",
                    "render_method": "opaque"
                }
            },
            "minecraft:destructible_by_mining": {
                "seconds_to_destroy": 5
            }
        }
    }
}

Texture doesn't work but whatevs

[agile spruce]

need geo

[ocean viper]

You need the geometry

[agile spruce]

material instances only works for geo

[dense bough]

It's a test block

idc

[ocean viper]

Fair

[agile spruce]

"minecraft:geometry": {
  "identifier": "minecraft:geometry.full_block"
}

is it identifier?

[dense bough]

ik lolk

[agile spruce]

can't remember

[dense bough]

Ppretty sure

[ocean viper]

It is

[brave lynx]

yes

You don’t even need it though

[agile spruce]

for material instances you do

[brave lynx]

just add it as a value

[ocean viper]

Also you don’t need to make it an object if you’re only specifying the identifier

[brave lynx]

as in

[agile spruce]

oh that's what you mean

[dense bough]

"minecraft:geometry": "geometru.stuff"

[brave lynx]

lol

[brave lynx]

yes

[agile spruce]

why's it in object form then?

is there other args?

[ocean viper]

culling rules and bone visibility

[shadow temple]

Bone vsibitly and culling

[dense bough]

ye

[agile spruce]

ah right

[shadow temple]

Like icon

[agile spruce]

forgot visibility got moved there

[brave lynx]

Can’t wait to have some fun working on custom leaves

[quartz gale]

the shovel is a new pickaxe

[agile spruce]

icon gave me a headache

they removed the syntax then added it back

[brave lynx]

That with the new tag?

[quartz gale]

yep

[agile spruce]

interesting

[brave lynx]

odd

Yeah I don’t think this feature was meant to be here yet lol

[dense bough]

My theory is it was on changelog by mistake

no way it was meant to be out

[brave lynx]

Well it works

kind of

[dense bough]

kinda-ish

[brave lynx]

is this enough for you to come back

lol

[dense bough]

No

[ocean viper]

Me when no redstone 😭

[brave lynx]

dang

[earnest gate]

I thought mojang would never do this to be honest.

[dense bough]

same

[brave lynx]

I’m super happy

[agile spruce]

they have a reason to push for stuff like this now

[ocean viper]

They had to at some point

[dense bough]

marketplace Add-Ons

[agile spruce]

||marketplace add-ons suffering||

[shadow temple]

Disappointed in no parity for tags

[ocean viper]

OOPS

[agile spruce]

java tags at some point would be amazing

probably not happening though

[brave lynx]

Unfortunately we still can’t determine silk touch and can’t determine what pickaxes can break what and get loot with tags

[shadow temple]

Tag parity...they had a chance to do with the destructible but nope

[agile spruce]

I assume it's just because they'd have to redo their tag system

[shadow temple]

I just meant the name

[agile spruce]

ah

I was refering to the actual system

idk why they didn't parity the names

[shadow temple]

Both would be great yes but i knew it wont happen so im focusing on the name

[agile spruce]

that's much better

they're missing sword though?

unless it's just cropped

[ionic eagle]

Such a tag system may be less feasible with Marketplace's add-ons restrictions though. Before I touch that, let's briefly discuss how such a hypothetical tag system might work

[agile spruce]

ah, so that's where those ideas came from earlier

[shadow temple]

Aside from what i suggested?

https://discord.com/channels/1138536747932864532/1215478326811168860

[shadow temple]

Yeah i dont pull things out of my ass

[pine forum]

It's even better because those behaviors are not hardcoded, they're just referenced by the tool component that you can use however you want

[agile spruce]

I completely missed the compatibility part, guess you'd need to have some sort of merging ability for that

[sharp heath]

custom or data-driven?

[agile spruce]

a simple way could probably be prefixing the ids with + or - depending on if they should be removed, or just having separate keys for adding and removing with lists in each

handling for potential conflicts there would just be done based on pack order, like other add-on things

[ionic eagle]

As a standalone system tags don't have any compatibility issues. Say a pack for the Marketplace makes a tag that only includes vanilla blocks and other blocks made in that pack—it has no interactions with other packs, and all is well

I assume the bit people want from tags is modifying vanilla tags. e.g. a "pickaxe mineable" tag that makes any block listed inside mine faster with a pickaxe

[agile spruce]

The problem is when you start referencing vanilla tags, right?

[ocean viper]

Custom block with vanilla items

[agile spruce]

a hybrid of java and bedrock would probably work for handling that stuff

you'd define vanilla tags in your block

then if you want to reference a vanilla block, you'd make a tag file

and technically nothing's stopping you from also defining your custom tags in your block file

[ionic eagle]

To make sure I understand how tags (as of this preview) work: We just got new tags that, when defined on a block, make that block mineable with increased speed by the given tools

[agile spruce]

the problem there would be what to do when you have a custom tag file, but also reference that tag within your block files

[agile spruce]

yeah, that's what's been added, though a bit broken atm

[earnest gate]

I think so.

[ionic eagle]

So that's in the case of a vanilla tool breaking a custom block, OK

Was there support for the opposite? A custom tool breaking a vanilla block

[earnest gate]

Digger?

[agile spruce]

the minecraft:digger component is what we have for that

[earnest gate]

yep

[agile spruce]

the problem is that we don't have tags for all vanilla blocks

[earnest gate]

What we got today is huge and I never thought we'd get it.

[ionic eagle]

I agree, I think a suitable file-driven tag implementation could work like this:

• Custom tag files are created in the tags folder. Tags include a list of block IDs or other tags. These are referenceable in commands, item components, block components, entity components, recipes, etc. and this solves issues with minecraft:digger.
  • Vanilla tags would not exist. See below.
• To access hardcoded vanilla behavior, we have the tag components ("tag:minecraft"). This gets verbose, but it would expose just the pieces that players need.

I don't like the second bit, but when I think of how tags can potentially replace contents with "replace": true, I don't see a way to support both exposing vanilla behavior in tags and Marketplace restrictions. Vanilla tags, if they exist, should probably be immutable in Bedrock

[shadow temple]

Unfortunate really, data driven blocks would solve a few issues. Lets say i want to remove mineable by pickaxe for certain blocks

[pine forum]

Addons are already forbidden from doing random stuff that packs can do, I don't see why simply forbidding replace couldn't be an option

[ionic eagle]

Could be ... should be simple enough to test for too

[agile spruce]

The problem here is that tags can be added and removed based on permutations, having them defined in a separate file for custom blocks makes that very difficult unless specifying blockstates in that file is allowed

I guess the easy way around that is to give us the command syntax for blockstates inside that file.

[ionic eagle]

Perhaps tag files could use conditionals with object syntax?
Scratch that, horrible idea

[pine forum]

tags can be added and removed based on permutations
😳 what

[ionic eagle]

Honestly I think adding and removing tags at runtime is asking for trouble. That idea is unheard of in Java Edition

[agile spruce]

it's not really any different from having two different blocks though, it's like red wool vs white wool

since it's bounded to block states, you always know all the valid states the block can be in

[ionic eagle]

This seems OK

Does Java have that? I forget

[agile spruce]

no idea, haven't touched datapacks since 1.12 1.14

[shadow temple]

Is that a good what or a bad what? New info to you?

[spiral siren]

the NPM versions for latest preview aren't out yet ☹️

[shadow temple]

Trouble how? Its like entity tags no?

[agile spruce]

just remembered that there's two types of entity tags on java

[spiral siren]

there is?

[agile spruce]

are the tags defined in files refered to as anything different?

[agile spruce]

the file ones that let you reference a group of entity ids

[ionic eagle]

There are "entity type tags" that are similar to the block tags (tag files) we've been talking about

[spiral siren]

Tags on Java are dynamic, if a registry exists, it supports tags.

[ionic eagle]

Not to be confused with "tags applied to entities with /tag"

[summer cargo]

bedrock equivalent would be type families?

[shadow temple]

Which can be dynamically changed via CGs right?

[summer cargo]

yes
although i doubt the arrays merge

[agile spruce]

they don't

[shadow temple]

So i see no reason why blocks shouldnt. Only issue i do have with the javas system is based on permutations which i already explained in the feedback post

[ionic eagle]

It's a slightly different system, mechanically. Families are not some defined registry that exists somewhere, they are more like tags applied with /tag.

Tag files are compiled once on world load and remain static thereafter.

[agile spruce]

they can be /reloaded, can't they?

[ionic eagle]

Yea, if you made changes to it

I should say "on pack initialization" to be specific

[agile spruce]

we need more /reload abilities on bedrock

[surreal pasture]

Kayla mentioned before that she really wants to implement that because she knows how important it is for the workflow, but she currently has no idea when it can be implemented (due to complexity)

[ionic eagle]

I believe Majestik was suggesting being able to mark a block as conditionally eligible for a block tag (file). Which he has a good point with block states, those should all be knowable on pack load

[shadow temple]

Could use the syntax for setblock no? In the tag json file?

[agile spruce]

that's what I suggested

[ionic eagle]

Potentially. It's a leap from Java's tag system but I fail to see any major consequences for it

Other than verbosity. Imagine defining specific vine/redstone wire states

[agile spruce]

functionally, it should be no different from just having ids since you know all possible states

[agile spruce]

I assume you'd be able to just leave out states you don't want to check and it won't check for those

[earnest gate]

I just realized we don't have one for axes.

[agile spruce]

hatchet

[earnest gate]

Fancy.

[ionic eagle]

That's not behavior in vanilla currently, is it? Though it would be cool to have support for it

[agile spruce]

it is, these tags behave as the tool of choice for mining something

the hatchet tag would be used on wood and logs

[ionic eagle]

I mean that one doesn't need an axe as a prerequisite for obtaining a block, unlike pickaxes and their tiers

[agile spruce]

tier tags are not functional in this preview, that would also likely be handled by the loot table and not a tag

[ionic eagle]

R.I.P. functionality

[agile spruce]

the functional tags are the ones beginning in is_ in that list

they just mark the tool of choice to mine something faster

[agile spruce]

though idk how many of them are actually functional, apparently a shovel is a pickaxe

[summer cargo]

"hatchet" breaks the consistency with tag names which is annoying

[agile spruce]

very

[shadow temple]

When has Mojang ever been consistent

[agile spruce]

still exp, please change that while it is

[ionic eagle]

Wait they actually called it "hatchet?" Oh man

[agile spruce]

for some odd reason, yeah

they already have an is_axe (for items) tag, so idk why they did that

[ionic eagle]

Might be more accurate. b-but mah precedent

I hope all these kind folk have been reporting issues they see to the Jira bug tracker c:

[agile spruce]

where would the hatchet thing even fall? bug? feature request?

[ionic eagle]

I dunno. But it can't hurt to try anyway

[summer cargo]

constant dev pings

[spiral siren]

@earnest gate did you get them to work?

(sorry for the ping, just curious)

the block tags

cause I got something to work

[earnest gate]

Yea. I enabled UCF

[ocean viper]

The tags do work but buggy

Which is sad :<

But they were at least added

[earnest gate]

Yea! And I am really happy :3

[spiral siren]

how are they buggy?

[earnest gate]

the tier tag doesn't work

[spiral siren]

the tier tags aren't supposed to change the speed

[ocean viper]

You can’t specify which tier can break the block and I think even the shovel can break with the pickaxe item tag

[shadow temple]

Thats a waste then

[spiral siren]

On Java, they have something similar to the tier tags, but they're only used for the block drops

[earnest gate]

I had the same idea.

[spiral siren]

you can still break obsidian faster with a wooden tool

it just won't drop the block

[ocean viper]

This is Bedrock, not Java D:<

Give us more stuff!! /s

[earnest gate]

How do you even test block tags in a loot table?

[spiral siren]

🧿

[chilly gazelle]

eh, this is a feature I'm just going to wait for it to be stable before messing with

[spiral siren]

I don't think we can currently sadly

[earnest gate]

Aww, sad :(

[chilly gazelle]

only thing I really trust messing with are scripting beta's

[shadow temple]

Our loot table for blocks are severely limited

[earnest gate]

:(

[ocean viper]

Still drops on Bedrock

[shadow temple]

I would love this
https://discord.com/channels/1138536747932864532/1248784862068867123

[pine forum]

Having the correct tool for the drops still increases speed in Java

[chilly gazelle]

I just think loot tables need to be completely redesigned

[spiral siren]

?

[ocean viper]

The tier tags do absolutely nothing

[agile spruce]

still have no idea if anyone tested those in digger

my minecraft is being stupid

[pine forum]

Good news, it happened in 1.14, bedrock just forgot

[pine forum]

Demo command:

/give @p apple[tool={rules:[{blocks:"diorite",correct_for_drops:0b},{blocks:"andesite",correct_for_drops:1b}]}]

Andesite mines faster

Now all the vanilla tools buff it even further with speed. It's not really clear to me why the hardcoded bonus still exists, but I suspect bedrock would have it too.

[earnest gate]

Seems like the shears one also doesn't work.

[ocean viper]

Doesn’t seem to do anything :<

[agile spruce]

don't know what those would ever be used for then

unless the items themselves have those tags

name is pretty weird for that to be the case though

[earnest gate]

^w^

[prime pulsar]

Why do they put so much more effort into the editor than scripting apis

[ocean viper]

Editor has a separate team

[shadow temple]

Editor uses the scriptingAPI

[agile spruce]

I wonder how much of editor is editor-specific

[remote sphinx]

you got it to work = D

what was causing the issue?

[brave lynx]

What did it get to work?

the collision?

[remote sphinx]

maybe upcoming creator features wasn't enabled

i think these tags need it

[brave lynx]

oh

I didn’t even realize

He got the pickaxe to work

[earnest gate]

I am so used to HCF being needed for stuff 😭

[remote sphinx]

rip

[shadow temple]

90% of the time i just assume UCF is needed now

[brave lynx]

bedrock dev has to catch up with all the new features lol

[earnest gate]

🙏 so glad HCF is gone though.

[brave lynx]

yes, things are better now

[dim dew]

The day of reckoning has almost arrived

I cannot wait to see the chaos when 1.21.20 releases

[shadow temple]

Wdym?

[brave lynx]

It’s been outdated for a while

[earnest gate]

I am prepared as one can be.

[brave lynx]

or at least so i’ve been told

[shadow temple]

Oh you mean the wiki

[candid zenith]

😭 NOO MY BEAUTIFUL BUT PAINFUL HCF IS GONE ALL THOSE DAYS I SPENT WORKING ON PROJECTS BECAUSE OF HCF

[dim dew]

SOme guy I dev with hadn't heard of the removal before today

Bro lives under a rock fr

[brave lynx]

yeah

[earnest gate]

Woah lol

I already experienced part of it with custom item components and HCF.

[dim dew]

He asked my why I am using custom components when item event ones are easier to use

[earnest gate]

How did he not know? qwq

[shadow temple]

Are they easier though?

[earnest gate]

Horrendous

[dim dew]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

I do love the tileability of CCs for sure

and that js is a lot more flexible than json lol

[unreal otter]

Sorry for You, now You need to pass your things to custom components

[molten surge]

Huge update

[thick carbon]

man.

it looks cool though tbh, anyways is there any deferred pack as for now that fixes the world being dark?

[earnest gate]

I updated mine 45 minutes after the preview dropped.

[thick carbon]

where do i get it?

[earnest gate]

I can dm it

[thick carbon]

yeah sure.

[spiral monolith]

you can now take screenshots outside of realms it seems

[hallow crystal]

I know it shouldn't look like this, but this looks "art-y"

[steep junco]

Ong just need that hit before event

But still a great preview

[floral jolt]

yooo the breeze jumping was finally made usable!

[solid hornet]

WE STILL NEED SATURATION APIS!!

[glacial thorn]

yeah, we still need a lot of things...

one thing at a time tho... enjoy the journey!!

[solid hornet]

(mainly for java regeneration)

[ember shuttle]

YOO

i can finally see custom block as an actual block

and not some soft block

very epic

[earnest gate]

It feels really nice to mine a custom block with a vanilla tool.

It almost feels wrong too

[ember shuttle]

yeah

[earnest gate]

Like I can't believe it's actually here.

[ember shuttle]

because its been like

3 years?

[earnest gate]

When was 1.16.100?

[ember shuttle]

it was like 2021/2020

[earnest gate]

Yea, long time.

[ember shuttle]

i was so pissed that every addons that have custom block is mineable with literally anything

but now

[earnest gate]

This new feature is experimental under upcoming creator features.

[ember shuttle]

yeah

probably 1.21.3?

[earnest gate]

Maybe it'll be stable by then.

[ember shuttle]

playing a modded minecraft bedrock with addons with block expansion is enjoyable now

lets goo

[shadow temple]

Nov 2020

[shadow temple]

1.21.30

[chilly gazelle]

Doesn't even impact me since all of the vanilla tools are obliterated in rc

The vanilla tool thing is actually one of the things that initially made me go that route though

[molten surge]

modding on mcbe always felt weird to me like

everything being mined at the exact same speed felt like the block was made out of "plastic"

instead of it feeling like actual stone

[molten surge]

huh

wdym vanilla tools are obliterated

[chilly gazelle]

They don't exist in my add-on

Not being able to do custom ore loot tables that worked with silk touch made me do scripting, not be able to make vanilla tools mine custom blocks made me do custom tools

I wonder if I still would have eventually done these things if the functionality had existed

[molten surge]

this is why i had an api lmao

at least w the new update i'll be able to remove the "check for tool tag" from things

[quiet plinth]

Huh so the main menu has a new profile button

[shadow temple]

"New"

A/B testing for a while now iirc

[quiet plinth]

Neato

It also has a screenshot gallery button

That's why the screenshot button's available in all worlds now

[mellow ocean]

I hate the realms button being in the main menu
They're just shoving it down everyone's throats, being in world creation was enough already and it just ruins the clean look of the menu imo

[woven patrol]

What’s wrong with it

Java edition has a realms button on the main menu too

[molten surge]

and no one presses either

[thick carbon]

honestly i wouldn't like it either

java's button placement is honestly good at it whereas bedrock just. literally has a flat large button that would nearly cover the screen.

not only that, the realm button looks like it was made to gain some attention too.

purple-ish button that somehow eh, out of places

[molten surge]

meanwhile the marketplace button

[thick carbon]

marketplace is even worse. though they seems to done it right and also has indicator on which new contents is there with efforts.

meanwhile the realm button is just there and is only a shortcut for it.

i would place it as around notification and achievement buttons

[mellow ocean]

Different colour, giant, ruins the menu orientation completely
It actually fits on java, and on java it’s literally the only way to access it

It’s completely different

[real spindle]

I need a sintax example, plz

[mellow ocean]

I missed this - awesome!

[fickle rock]

crazy

[real spindle]

"functional"? I don't see that they work

I try to put the new tags and it keeps breaking the same

[earnest gate]

Enable "Upcoming Creator Features"

[ocean viper]

The tags are pinned so you can check them

[spiral monolith]

With custom items can you set different destruction times tho

[ocean viper]

You can

You have to use the mincraft:digger item component

[shrewd depot]

Anyone want to help me out? I've tried 6 differen't IPs to join my preview server and nothing works

[hard talon]

google how to find your computers ip

where are you hosting the server?

[shrewd depot]

that's what the 2 blocked ips are :/

[shrewd depot]

locally

my bad for double ping 😭

if this was on stable, i'd already be in the server

but the preview is being weird

[hard talon]

did you run the loopback exemption command?

[shrewd depot]

yup

always do

[hard talon]

with minecraft previews app id instead of regular minecrafts?

[shrewd depot]

how am I supposed to know what the app id is?

[celest dome]

I was testing out this line and it looks like the .addExperience() method gets stuck on the level cap of xp with negative parameters. Is this a bug?

Math.random()<0.5 ? player.addExperience(1000): player.addExperience(-1000);

[celest dome]

Not too sure, but It might be the same one that minecraft debugger extension uses. You can find it in it's description.

[grizzled vigil]

https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/minecraft/creator/documents/scriptdevelopertools?view=minecraft-bedrock-stable#step-2-ensure-that-the-minecraft-bedrock-edition-client-can-make-loopback-requests

There are the id's and commands here 😄

[dreamy epoch]

Is it true? Do vanilla tools work on custom blocks now???

[earnest gate]

Yea!! :D

[atomic vector]

Your asking about the tags?

[earnest gate]

^ video

Tags are pinned here ^^

[dreamy epoch]

LET'S GOOOOO!

[worthy garnet]

epic

[real spindle]

Yes, and it doesn't work for me

[flat vortex]

Is the new world edit screen being updated without being able to go back to the old one?

[ocean viper]

Works fine for me but the toggle to go back will no longer be there soon

[flat vortex]

It doesn't work for me, and also when I installed the new preview it already came with the ore ui screen, I believe Mojang wants to add it as default, right?

[ocean viper]

Yes that is the plan for OreUI

Every screen will eventually have an OreUI equivalent

[olive plover]

I can't wait for that to happen!!

Ore UI is just better

[quiet sail]

The old ui feels like an alpha version of what OreUi is meant to be

It just feels thrown together tbh

[olive plover]

Pretty much, yeah

[thick carbon]

eh, it's a mix bag for me.

[olive plover]

JSON UI is just hell

[thick carbon]

since this thing uses web stuff like html/react, this causes some people devices having performance issues or somehow overheating. which, something json-ui does not have and also pretty fast.

( this also applies to discord's mobile react native, it is still draining my battery like hell. )

[quiet sail]

I much prefer the preview ui over the current stable ui. It just feels more clean

[olive plover]

I had a thought of learning it for an add-on, but never ended up doing it due to how convoluted everything is in a single JSON file

[thick carbon]

Ore-UI is still non-existent in term of ability to modify or change some screens via resource packs.

and I'm probably not gonna wait like maybe more than 2 years for that tbh

[olive plover]

I'd much rather learn React Facet, rather than JSON UI tbh

[thick carbon]

this thing is like, developed in 5 years now and still yet counting.

I'd rather not to have a UI that somehow overheats my phone.

[olive plover]

Plus, having experience with React is a good thing to put in a resume if you want to get a job

Microsoft Edge of all things uses React too

[thick carbon]

internet explorer still exists? lmao.

[molten surge]

I want to make a "guide" of sorts if I ever get good at jsonui
But I fear that the day after is when OreUI releases into beta

[molten surge]

stop using JS for desktop and mobile apps!!!!! it was made for websites!!!!

see this is why society is failing

[atomic vector]

Do you know alot already? I bet it won't be for a few years anyways

[molten surge]

I know the basics so far

[atomic vector]

I need to learn

[molten surge]

all I want is a site to test the UI outside the game

[atomic vector]

But have script api mostly down

[atomic vector]

Alot of people have been wanting that

[molten surge]

i looked up to find one

one exists

[atomic vector]

I agree

Ohhh

[molten surge]

but it's outdatde and buggy

like

[atomic vector]

Awh dang

[molten surge]

i found this repo

https://github.com/KalmeMarq/json-ui-editor

[thick carbon]

meanwhile windows 11's setup/OOBS are literally html in disguise

[olive plover]

Who uses that

[molten surge]

Janeth, 76.

[thick carbon]

probably somebody?

actually who still use MS edge that thing is terrible

[olive plover]

I mean, it's based on Chromium

I don't use it

I use Brave

[molten surge]

same answer as IE

old people

or, forgive me for this word

normies

[thick carbon]

the MS Edge UI is terrible at best though.

that's what i heard from most people who doesn't like edge

[atomic vector]

Lmao

[olive plover]

I like it

[olive plover]

Looks like Windows

[thick carbon]

it's literally a windows product ofc it'll look like windows

[molten surge]

There's like

opne thing i have been wondering about oreui

It has a simple answer but it still kinda confuses me

also, I don't know where I saw this but I'm p sure I saw somewhere that @minecraft/server already has a 2.0.0-alpha in development

[thick carbon]

what is it?

[shadow temple]

Yeah, that's old news

[molten surge]

damn...

can i ask if there's any major differences from the current apis

or is that confidential

[shadow temple]

Stick around and find out

[flat vortex]

However, at the moment it is impossible to edit them, which can break many addons when the hud_screen or chest_screen takes the oreUi

[molten surge]

gonna have to go back to using items to make the ui

[sullen hatch]

items?

[molten surge]

yeah

using a chest then adding items to simulate a ui

[sullen hatch]

Could you show an example?

that sounds sick

[molten surge]

it looks like garbage but sure

nvm it didn't load

[shadow temple]

🥹 I just realized the new tags makes my custom component useless

[molten surge]

the new tags made half my api useless

now all it does is disable silk touch

[analog charm]

And my old digger components too

Don't cry about it

Be happy

(:

[shadow temple]

They're tears of joy

🥹

[sullen hatch]

Can you explain to a no coder or should I not care about it

[shadow temple]

It means Mojang implemented something they should've done a long time ago and I no longer have to create a system on my own.

[sullen hatch]

Thats great

[shadow temple]

Since we got the destructible tags.... im just gonna bump this feedback post: https://discord.com/channels/1138536747932864532/1246645206066135090

[ocean viper]

Hey Mojang, we’re probably gonna need an actual F3 screen if data keeps getting added to the debug info 👀

[olive plover]

I agree with this guy

[vestal hull]

I agree

[sharp heath]

Well, at least for PC

[ocean viper]

Toggle

[olive plover]

"No, we can't! The feature must be available for mobile as well!!"

[ocean viper]

Similar to how the paperdoll works

[olive plover]

That could work

[sharp heath]

well, better something than nothing, but ya, toggle is in-need

[sharp heath]

give me some key binding please 😉

[smoky hearth]

Yessss banners rendering in front of stuff finally getting fixed

[river dust]

Pin this so we can direct mojangsters to it more easily 👍

It will get buried in chat lol

[olive plover]

W helper

[shadow temple]

That's not really pin worthy imo. Better to make a feedback post

Pins should be used for finding undocumented changes

[river dust]

Fair point

[sharp heath]

Well, it was kinda funny pin 🥹

[ocean viper]

https://discord.com/channels/1138536747932864532/1269288888187359254

[olive plover]

All efforts got wasted :(

[remote sphinx]

you should make a feedback post

deletes feedback post

[olive plover]

So sad

[shadow temple]

Its not deleted though?

[shadow temple]

Wasted?

[olive plover]

Yeah. The post got limited because it was a duplicate of another post

[remote sphinx]

yeah that's what i meant

[shadow temple]

Then just add on to the og post?

[remote sphinx]

add on

minecraft bedrock edition reference

[shadow temple]

[olive plover]

Fr

[shadow temple]

Yeah, also the vanilla tags are buggy as most people have said, regardless it's a new era!

[remote sphinx]

yeah it's quite bizarre that they don't work for some people but does for some

[shadow temple]

For me....used the pickaxe tag....but the shovel can also speed up the mining?

[remote sphinx]

that's... really weird..

and also, the tier tags seem to just do literally nothing apparently

[shadow temple]

Just another nitpick with the changelog...why is the component not in codeblocks

[analog charm]

Why would it be

All the others are

At least one had to be wrng

[steep junco]

so when are getting an actual release for 1.21.10 and 1.21.20?

will it all just be in an update for 1.21.30?

[agile spruce]

.30 just started, give them a week or 2

[remote sphinx]

1.21.10 died for our sins

they got combined but will release in a week or two as Majestik said

[steep junco]

no it's gonna be 1.21.40

and then 1.21.50

it will never end....

but no hopefully you're right

a few things that will handy in the update

mostly looking forward to the runjob function being in stable

[remote sphinx]

and holiday creator features removal (;

[steep junco]

that too

@remote sphinx

[remote sphinx]

@steep junco

[steep junco]

https://tenor.com/view/sparkles-and-champagne-sparklesandchampagne-opto_edge-gif-25486986

[remote sphinx]

you was feeling free ig

[steep junco]

yes you said feel free to ping

I let the voices win

[gentle ember]

Did anyone post the block/item mining tags to #1072983602821861426?

They'd be great there.

[earnest gate]

No. I can do that if you'd like me to?