Mega Evolutions in a Pokemon Addon

[low summit]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6sQXjM8G1mM

[dense jetty]

copyright takedown

[gentle schooner]

I wish it would happen especially since he's selling the addon which I'm pretty sure is illegal

[rugged hull]

it is

its Nintendo's assets

[gentle schooner]

He's so scummy he legit has 2 copies of the addon. A watered down free one and a 30 dollar premium version with better mechanics and more features

But claims it would be too hard to make the free one the same

[leaden crest]

oh yeah he is using actual assets 💀

[low summit]

which ones?

[leaden crest]

Names & Sounds

[halcyon ginkgo]

https://tenor.com/view/nba-gif-15687325833433865178

[rugged hull]

and the word pokemon

• pokeball

• the models, they resemble pokemons which are all liscensed assets

[leaden crest]

🥲

[fervent shuttle]

jealous much

💀

[sweet dawn]

I am pretty sure if that was the case pokefind, cobblemon, pixelmon, phoenix sc's pokemon map, LogDotZip pokemon only one command and so on wouldn't exist.

And I am pretty sure it's allowed.

[leaden crest]

https://www.reddit.com/r/Games/comments/6n6zxc/minecraft_pixelmon_mod_development_is_ending/

[sweet dawn]

They were taken down for using the exact same assets from the game.

[leaden crest]

As soon as you make money off it you can be sued

[leaden crest]

He does too

[sweet dawn]

If it was that simple digimon or palworld and those server or mods i mentioned wouldn't exist.

[leaden crest]

Just because its not models doesn't mean its not assets yk

digimon isnt using copyrighted assets or do they?

[gentle schooner]

He does not own a copyright to pokemon so therefore making any form of income off of it is illegal plain and simple.

[sweet dawn]

So cobblemon should be taken down?

They make an income.

[obsidian nebula]

Isn't it donations?

[gentle schooner]

Are they selling the pack....

Curry is selling the pack

[sweet dawn]

But that counts too right?

[obsidian nebula]

It's not really the same thing

[sweet dawn]

It's optional you can play it on the server

You don't have to pay

[gentle schooner]

Doesn't matter dude

[sweet dawn]

You said you had to pay

[gentle schooner]

Yes to get the addon you do. Stop defending curry like holy crap

[sweet dawn]

I am not

[gentle schooner]

Yeah u r

[sweet dawn]

How come?

[gentle schooner]

U come to his defense every time

[sweet dawn]

Wut?

[long sentinel]

https://tenor.com/view/espresso-classy-pinkies-up-sips-tea-sipping-gif-7250101

[gentle schooner]

Simply by the option of purchasing the pack is illegal as he doesn't own a copyright to be able to do so

[sweet dawn]

I don't really defend anyone, I just find it kind of questionable when someone says something about 1 entity without mentioning the others that do the exact same.

[gentle schooner]

Show me others that sell the pack

[obsidian nebula]

How much does it cost

[sweet dawn]

There are many forms of selling

[gentle schooner]

He sells it for 30 bucks

[sweet dawn]

Pokefind sells ranks and items

[obsidian nebula]

Just the addon? For 30?

[long sentinel]

Were changing it soon. And i had to push for that

[sweet dawn]

Cobblemon gets donations through patreon other sources.

[gentle schooner]

I've said it from the very beginning that is scummy

[sweet dawn]

If i recall it's if you want to self host it.

Else you don't have to pay

You can just hop on their server

[obsidian nebula]

So you're paying for not a watered down version?

[gentle schooner]

Ur completely missing the point

[sweet dawn]

But I mean self hosting always coet money

[gentle schooner]

Correct

[sweet dawn]

Yeah basically for self hosting

[gentle schooner]

There shouldn't be 2 different versions

[obsidian nebula]

What if I just wanted to play locally with all those features

[long sentinel]

Ok and i somewhat agree but with people out their like shiftery we dont want code being stolen. Legit the only reason its like that

[gentle schooner]

Then don't make it public at all then.

[sweet dawn]

So you aren't okay with people making stuff free?

Or public

I am confused now

[gentle schooner]

You really are an idiot. If your worried about people stealing your code then don't make it public

But if your gonna make it public don't force people to pay to experience it fully

[sweet dawn]

You don't have to pay

I am pretty sure

[gentle schooner]

Did you ever think that maybe people would want to play with their friends and not have to wait for a spot on a server

[long sentinel]

Legit premium is only for people who wanna make their own server. It has server features likes crates and shit. You dont have to buy it if you dont want to

[sweet dawn]

Hmmm

[gentle schooner]

Dude I watched his video where he said the showdown battle system and a few others are premium only

[sweet dawn]

So it doesn't affect the gameplay?

Is it just a way to make an income for the server

Like these cobblemon servers

https://cobblemon.com/en/servers

[sweet dawn]

Really?

Hmm

[gentle schooner]

Yeah

[long sentinel]

All showdown does it make battles 100% accurate you dont have to buy it thats why public is their.

[sweet dawn]

So let's get this straight

[gentle schooner]

But why should they be different

The battle system should be the same across both

[long sentinel]

We all know why...

[gentle schooner]

Then don't have it be public as I've said. If yall so worried about it then don't have download

[sweet dawn]

You got a public version of the addon with no way for you to monetize with and a paid version so you can make money with if wished.

[long sentinel]

This the reason why

[gentle schooner]

Then don't have a public download and just have the server problem solved

[sweet dawn]

https://cobblemon.com/en/servers

So it's basically like that?

[long sentinel]

Even if we only have a server you still have a problem with us so theirs no winning with you man😅

[gentle schooner]

My problem is with the p2w bs and selling the pack

[long sentinel]

Legit as we talk im redoing shop completely

[gentle schooner]

Pokemon should not be able to be bought period.

It creates an unfair environment

[sweet dawn]

He's not wrong tbh

[long sentinel]

Doesnt pokefind and all other pokemon server do the exact same thing?

[sweet dawn]

I mean he ain't wrong either

[long sentinel]

Besides yours of course

[sweet dawn]

Like these servers do it too

[gentle schooner]

Yes and I don't agree with it at all with them either

[sweet dawn]

https://cobblemon.com/en/servers

They are also featured by cobblemon

[gentle schooner]

I've called pokefind out on it repeatedly as well

[sweet dawn]

What about those cobblemon servers?

Most of them sell pokemons

[gentle schooner]

Any pixelmon server that sells Pokémon should either be shutdown or be forced to remove them

[sweet dawn]

They are featured by cobblemon

And that makes it a little worse tbh

[long sentinel]

Look man out of everything thats not changing at all. But ive been working on the new shop for about a week now and its less pay to win. Also their will be daily rewards and other ways to get keys without paying so boom problem solved

[gentle schooner]

Selling Pokémon is a scummy period.

[long sentinel]

Ok i agree as well but legit every other server does it. Only way to fix it in my opinion is by making it to where f2p players can get it more

Which is what im doing right now so please man just calm down😅

[gentle schooner]

And honestly regarding this I don't care for any other bedrock pixelmon server. I only care about mine. If all others were shutdown I would just laugh.

[fervent shuttle]

💀

[sweet dawn]

Why do you care then so much about this one?

You always reply to it.

[fervent shuttle]

max player count of 30 players 💀

[sweet dawn]

🤔

[gentle schooner]

Bro I ain't the only one that has called him out u r just blind

[sweet dawn]

I mean you are the only one here that talks about it 24/7

When you look at the message logs

[gentle schooner]

Really look at the first comment

[obsidian nebula]

That's an exaggeration

[sweet dawn]

I know 😆

[long sentinel]

Look im getting sick of this man. I told you how im trying to fix it to the best of my ability

[sweet dawn]

Learned it from the above mentioned master

Anyway

Now I want to play minecraft story mode for some reason

But sadly they took it off netflix

[long sentinel]

But anyways ima go plan more stuff out ttyl @gentle schooner

[gentle schooner]

Na we won't talk later

[leaden crest]

BoMBOcla

Didnt know he was even selling the pack holy😂

With sounds and everything thats crazy

Id actually stop before someone reports you, they can take your life savings

[long sentinel]

I havent made any money off of this addon at all. I do everything for free

[leaden crest]

Idk he said the owner sells the pack

[long sentinel]

Ok? im not the owner im the manager i do everything i do because i like the project and the community. I dont need payment

[obsidian nebula]

Why aren't you being paid?

[long sentinel]

Because i dont want to. Ive been offered but ive refused. All the money that is made goes right back into the server and i make sure it does.

[fervent shuttle]

one thing i will say that if this was a issue then mcpdl would have taken the pack off the site and the server due to not wanting to be acquainted with the discord or addon in general, this also would go for other packs and other issues that go with it.

[obsidian nebula]

Idk man if I worked on a marketplace map, for example, I'd expect to be paid even if I liked the project

[long sentinel]

Well i dont. I enjoy the project. I dont even do that much tbh to even get payed

All i do is

[fervent shuttle]

all he does is manage, not build, model, or even develope

hes a sad boi

[obsidian nebula]

Managers still play a role

[fervent shuttle]

all they do is run the server

its just expanding his people skill set and he has a life outside of this

[obsidian nebula]

What responsibilities does that include

[long sentinel]

manage staff
manage updates
manage server

(Make sure curry stays on task)

All the payment i need is being around the amazing staff team. They are the best and my time with them is the only payment i need

[obsidian nebula]

What exactly does that entail? Manage is a pretty broad term

[leaden crest]

oh they dont care, they have tons of copyrighted stuff

and they dont sell it which is the part which makes nintendo sue you

[sweet dawn]

https://mcpedl.com/user/mr-taquito/

[leaden crest]

yeah all free

[sweet dawn]

Nope

[fervent shuttle]

you know the addon is free, right?

[leaden crest]

well those weird 3rd party links

[sweet dawn]

The creator makes money from the links

[leaden crest]

i heard different from sm else but doesn't matter anymore imma gts

[sweet dawn]

Yep

[fervent shuttle]

all the payed pack does is give server essentials for players that want the same thing as pokebedrock

[long sentinel]

Well i plan every update like features and bug testing. I also make sure the staff is being fair and acceptable to everyone. And managing the server includes me hopping on time to time checking up on the players and seeing what their gripes and complaints are.

[fervent shuttle]

so all they are buying is essetially plugins for the pack

[obsidian nebula]

Seems like the type of work you should be paid for but your choice I guess

[long sentinel]

I get payed in experience. A lot of the managing skills I've learned here have helped me move up in my actual job.

[obsidian nebula]

Payed in experience is a pretty low bar

[long sentinel]

True but those were my terms curry offered but i refused i wanted the funds to go into the actual server.

[long sentinel]

Anyways ima head out. You have a good day

[mellow ore]

seen people complaining but, tbh game is game bros just making money and i respect it lol

[dense jetty]

Nah bruh

[mellow ore]

nah what

[dense jetty]

If these claims are correct, bro's making money off of assets that aren't his

And from a nintendo exclusive no less

[mellow ore]

yeah but he still has to make it all to be fair

its not like he just ports it straight from a nintendo game

[dense jetty]

That's quite literally how this works bruh

[mellow ore]

?????

i dont think nintendo has minecraft models

[dense jetty]

Ported sounds

Ported assets

[mellow ore]

but itd be a shit mod in the first place if no sounds were used

u see pikachu and he just plays a rabbit sound effect or some shi

if i downloaded a mod and saw that im deleting the mod lmao

[dense jetty]

That's why you make your own sounds 🤦

[mellow ore]

thatd still be awful, whos gona go on mic and say 'Pikachu' in a cute voice

[dense jetty]

Bruh all I see is you defending stolen/ported assets

[mellow ore]

and its funny how were talking about nintendo, of all game companies theyre not known for loving their community to be fair lol

[long sentinel]

Actually we're currently working on sounds right now

[dense jetty]

Good

[dense jetty]

That's why people are so up in arms about this

[long sentinel]

We have been for while but it's hard since theirs over 1000+ pokemon

[mellow ore]

fair but i feel like people are only bringing all this up because they wana get the mod but its behind a paywall, if it wasnt or it was alot cheaper then i doubt thered be any outrage ngl

im not even a pokemon fan tbh so idk why im even here lmao

[long sentinel]

We are making premium cheaper. It was 30$ soon its gonna be 15$

[mellow ore]

fair ig

[cerulean sandal]

Donations and locking features behind a paywall are to different things tbf.

Pixelmon and cobblemon are all free to use 100%, and make money off of donations. To where servers make you pay for things they don’t legally own. There’s a huge difference.

[tough shale]

real

[mellow ore]

are they even locking it entirely behind a paywall or is it just early access?

[cerulean sandal]

I don’t really understand why people lock things behind things because these things are supposed to be open source right? That was the original goal with mods and Addons was it not? I just wish everyone could just get along and not see each other as competition, but instead use eachother to build and make better things

[cerulean sandal]

No it’s an “advanced” version of the mod with more features

[tough shale]

if you wanna play on it you can use it for free, but if you want the server usage stuff (claims, votes etc) it's paid.

[cerulean sandal]

This is why I never want to make money off of anything modded base. I always just want things like this to be available to everyone at no cost

[mellow ore]

fair but making a living off donations seems like hell to me, theres barely anyone out there that would just throw money away like that tbh

[cerulean sandal]

True but you shouldn’t be relying on mc modding to be your main income

[steady nova]

Here's your reason

[mellow ore]

Well ive been working on a jujutsu kaisen addon and I plan to make it a paid early access but itll be free for everyone a year or a few months after

[mellow ore]

alot of people dont wana go work at mcdonalds tbh

[cerulean sandal]

Well people like that you just gotta deal with. People will steal, and you can’t prevent that. What’s stopping him from just buying it and flipping it?

[mellow ore]

all ima say is if ur good at something never do it for free

[steady nova]

Btw none of the donations have been spent outside of the server its not making a living

[cerulean sandal]

Well modding a game using assests you don’t 100% own shouldn’t be it either lol

[steady nova]

"People like that you just gotta deal with" so if I come and steal your addon right now claim you yourself stole it all and then send my members to come shit on your server is that ok?

We shouldn't have to do this but he is a toxic terrible individual and if he keeps up his shenanigans he will be delt with.

[cerulean sandal]

No? That’s not what I said at all, stop twisting my words qwixee

[long sentinel]

Guys let's stop. This convo needs to just end😮‍💨

[steady nova]

I'm putting it into context

[cerulean sandal]

I meant people will be people, and you can’t stop that

[steady nova]

So would you be ok rn if I come and steal origins or whtv ur thing is called

[cerulean sandal]

Not that stealing was ok

[cerulean sandal]

No, again stop twisting what I said

[steady nova]

We are doing everything to prevent him from doing that

[steady nova]

So I can't put it into context because it disproves your point?

Doesn't fit your agenda

[cerulean sandal]

Will you stop twisting my dang words, I told you what I meant

[devout pendant]

???

[steady nova]

Mhm sure ok evester keep riding

[long sentinel]

https://tenor.com/view/sips-tea-sip-gif-25933597

[steady nova]

Like a horse at this point

[cerulean sandal]

Who?

[steady nova]

https://tenor.com/view/the-mighty-redcar-redcar-little-kev-riding-horse-gif-12590152

[devout pendant]

Hold on. What is this on about?

[steady nova]

Yk who

[cerulean sandal]

No, I don’t

[midnight briar]

Let's chill out guys 🙂

[devout pendant]

^

[long sentinel]

Finnaly mods came 😅

[devout pendant]

Had to leave my fortnite session for this What is going on?

[long sentinel]

What's your thoughts on the new season?

[midnight briar]

That's #off-topic 👍

[devout pendant]

^

[long sentinel]

😬

[devout pendant]

Ok but seriously, what happened

[steady nova]

Alot to say read up

[long sentinel]

Just people arguing about creative differences. That's the best way to sum it up.

[steady nova]

Can't really sum it up

[cerulean sandal]

I made a comment about my opinion on addon creation and qwixee went out of there way to twist my words to make it seem like I condone stealing

So naturally I defended myself

[steady nova]

Putting words into context isn't twisting words

[devout pendant]

There is so many messages here I can not find it

[steady nova]

Slow poke

[cerulean sandal]

You didn’t put my words into context, you straight up accused me of accepting stealing

[steady nova]

Putting words into context is showing a example on how you yourself would personally feel

[steady nova]

So we can't read ig

[cerulean sandal]

To answer this, I would be mad, but it wouldn’t be the end of the world

[steady nova]

Directly quoting you then Putting a example from your personally isn't twisting

[long sentinel]

🗿

[devout pendant]

There is no need to make a mess about one's opinion

[midnight briar]

Im unsure of what is all this about, but hear me out. We want to make sure this community remains respectful to all members, if we want to give our opinions about something we are always free to, but we have to understand that we must respectful and that there are rules to follow. If someone breaks a rule, we have #tickets to allow users to report others, that way you don't break the rules by causing public, unnecessary dramas.

After all that has been said, please let's leave the topic here and continue with our lives, any further conversation can be moved to DMs. Thank you 🙂

[devout pendant]

^

[steady nova]

It wouldn't be the end of the world if a world class lier 4x your size comes on a project you pour your heart out on just to shit all over it and ruin your project? ...

[steady nova]

My bad I didn't see this message when responding I'll close it on off

[devout pendant]

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