1.20.80.23 - Preview

[plucky swift]

It is very different

[old shoal]

Like, extremely different

[fringe cave]

Most likely the moderators would want it too

[pale kelp]

Attach a pack so they can reproduce

[old shoal]

1 sec, I'll show

[plucky swift]

also can you do this? I cant rn

[plucky swift]

do they accept mediafire?

[pale kelp]

Just upload it as a zip file

[plucky swift]

its 50mb

[pale kelp]

How

[plucky swift]

Add-On big

[fringe cave]

Would be a good idea to make a single item pack for them to test with

[plucky swift]

I am unable to do that rn

blockbench

[fringe cave]

Yeah using that to make a custom pick

[scenic widget]

It really isn't the same. I KNEW something was off whenever I swung my custom items.

[scenic widget]

UGH. Do not remind me. 3d attachables first person swinging sucks. I thought I had the rotation wrong. I understand now that the animations are different (for some reason)

It always looks as if you're hitting someone with the flat of the item instead of the edge.

[fringe cave]

Ok I just tried it out. So there is a difference. But really? significant? They're almost the same

[deep sapphire]

yeah Idk I have zero issues with it

[plucky swift]

It bothered me a lot

[fringe cave]

Attachables have significant difference. Not this

[plucky swift]

This is a big difference

[fringe cave]

No it ain't

[plucky swift]

they need to be the same animation

[scenic widget]

Perhaps. But there is no reason for custom items even without attachables to have a different swing animation. That can't be intentional, cuz it's unnecessary.

[fringe cave]

I agree they should have the same animation, but saying they're significantly different is an exaggeration

[plucky swift]

Its been like this since 1.16.100 items. Stable items before that version used vanilla swing anim

[scenic widget]

Can you send a video of a normal item and a custom item (without attachables) with mining fatigue so we can see the different swing animations?

[fringe cave]

I think the same is true for attachables

They were fine until somewhere around that time. Even vanilla ones

[plucky swift]

The attachable swin anim is bad

[old shoal]

If you want to try the animations, here's the pack

[old shoal]

Just the fact that the attachable faces towards the player during swing is irritating

[plucky swift]

Herobrine and I were not going crazy

[old shoal]

^

[fringe cave]

I agree the attachable swing is significantly different

I was talking about custom non-attachable items

[old shoal]

ah that

Yeah, I do see a difference there.

Here's the full pack

[scenic widget]

Btw, how does one use armor trims on items?

[shell willow]

How is in the MS docs.

[scenic widget]

Sorry I should have been more specific. I mean custom items. Not normal items lol I know how that works.

[plucky swift]

I can help

[scenic widget]

Really?

Then please!

[shell willow]

In the docs

[scenic widget]

I cant find them tho.

[plucky swift]

Yea. My armor uses trims. We can go to #1067869136606220288 You can make a forum and I'll guide

[scenic widget]

Alright.

[shell willow]

https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/minecraft/creator/documents/addcustomitems?view=minecraft-bedrock-stable#custom-chestplate-with-vanilla-armor-trim

[scenic widget]

Thanks.

[scenic widget]

Made it!

[scenic widget]

Though a forum here would be useful for people who do not know about these docs (especially since several people seem to respond faster to posts here than actual docs. Lazy? Maybe. But I can't change em.)

[shell willow]

huh

Duplicating information here in forum is a horrible IDEA. Don't do it. We have the wiki.bedrock.dev and msdocs for a reason.

[wild dirge]

Sometimes someone needs an extra lil help! Asking the question in your own way may be the difference between getting something and not 😀

[shell willow]

totally ask the question. Don't duplicate the information. No one is updating forums and things change too fast. If you duplicate the information in forums today it will be a liability in 6 month when it's outdated. People should not be rewarded for being lazy.

Go to the wiki or MS Docs. Don't be lazy.

[scenic widget]

I think you misunderstood. (and I shouldn't have used the word forum) I am not saying duplicate the information. A small post or summary about which component to use + an example of how it works is good. Especially for those who don't know about the docs.

And I'm not doing this for me. I already read the page.

[shell willow]

Sure. But thats the entire goal of the wiki. You should simply join the OSS and just help update the wiki so everyone beneifts. IMO But I'm a nobody, so don't listen to me.

the discord search is usesless most the time.

FYI I've tried this is why I know

I have 3 years of forum help posts and they are all useless now

1 because discord time to display old content could be 20 minutes if ever

I don't think search, searching forums right now even.

So a guide in #1072983602821861426 would be a better place for it

[wild dirge]

Someone might not learn best via the wiki or ms docs? If someone asks and some answers then it's all guchi

[vivid lantern]

Idk about you, but #usage message already explains where to ask questions. I do see a benefit of having each component explained, but not on Discord as that is way to limited to the few thousands of people here. Some people might not have access to Discord but do to the internet, so the ms docs and wiki.bedrock.dev are much better places to have that type of information

[coral flare]

Yes and if you make your pickaxe in 32x32 instead of vanilla résolution, it will be bigger

This is also a common issue with a lot of vanilla items that have this animation issue and also a render issue with higher resolution texture

[junior dew]

if you use format 1.10 for your items the swing is normal 🐿️

[plucky swift]

then I need the rp item stuff?

[junior dew]

yeah gross

also i think the swinging animation looks weird because its not using the item swing animation, instead its just following the arm swing

[plucky swift]

ew

[vapid root]

Don’t y’all wish the yearly April fools update would come to bedrock

In preview or in addon form

[tall temple]

I mean, the problem with that is I doubt most April fools updates would lass certification on the various platforms they're for

[teal idol]

April fools updates are nowhere near as important to be worth going through all the extra hurdles that Bedrock updates have to go through, just for a one day joke

[pale kelp]

release a brand new app that receieves one update a year

[teal idol]

Ah yes my favorite game, Minecraft April Fools Edition

[teal idol]

Also even if they did something like this, it'd be quite different on Bedrock than Java
Because it definitely wouldn't be worth committing parity to

[teal idol]

Maybe they can finally release the redacted edition for an april fools 😏

[pale kelp]

Messing with the assume_symmetry field. Trying to document things for a yt video

Funnily enough, since you said the new property defaults to true, and I also tested it, i came to a few conclusion from my testing, please feel free to disprove me

👀 @wild dirge pinging you as well since we talked in DMs and you mentioned you messed with this

[pale kelp]

One very specfic use case I can think of is that you have the basic and an upgraded "tier" that is unlockable if you obtain something, you can still craft the basic tier if you flip the pattern but by default it defaults to the "tier" one

[deep sapphire]

oh I need to use that

I had to change the recipe a ways back because the content log error was annoying

@pale kelp What takes priority if you manually put them into the crafting window?

[pale kelp]

See the screenshot of my notes. The first id based on alphabet

[tacit hedge]

didn't know you were staring a yt channel too

lol

[deep sapphire]

where are examples of onUse for items 😢

[pale kelp]

I have one...just private waiting to be pushed

[deep sapphire]

does it work?

I'm getting errors trying register the custom component

[pale kelp]

Works for me

[deep sapphire]

Is it not just json "minecraft:custom_components": [ "runecraft:use_on" ],

in the components?

[pale kelp]

Make sure 1.20.80 format version

And turn off HCF toggle

[deep sapphire]

oh

don't think I can do that.

well this sucks

items with use_duration just don't work with anything 😦

[pale kelp]

You need use modifiers

[deep sapphire]

{
  "format_version": "1.20.80",
  "minecraft:item": {
    "description": {
      "identifier": "runecraft:enhanced_grow_potion_1"
    },
    "components": {
      "minecraft:custom_components": [
        "runecraft:use_on"
    ],
      "minecraft:tags": {
        "tags": [
          "grow",
          "tier_2",
          "last_sip"
        ]
      },
      "minecraft:icon": {
        "texture": "grow_potion_1"
      },
      "minecraft:use_animation": "drink",
      "minecraft:use_modifiers": {
        "use_duration": 1.5
      },
      "minecraft:max_stack_size": 1,
      "minecraft:food": {
        "can_always_eat": true
      }
    }
  }
}```

I mean use duration

[pale kelp]

Works for me

[deep sapphire]

I wasn't clear lol

It disables on_use

and on_use_on

maybe it's that it's a food item doing that

[pale kelp]

Yes

Bc my items has use modifiers and custom components work

[deep sapphire]

sucks, completely unusable then

can't interact with my blocks using my potion to change them since you can also drink the potion

[pale kelp]

What are you trying to achieve

[deep sapphire]

Needed to detect my potions being used on sponge blocks

otherwise I have to go the crafting table route which isn't really how this system should work

There isn't any override option for food either

[pale kelp]

I would wait for on use duration complete

Your food component doesnt seem to be doing anything anyways

[deep sapphire]

That would only fire after the potion is drank

[deep sapphire]

It's needed to be able to consume it

[pale kelp]

You can just set it via scripting

[deep sapphire]

Hmm

Guess I'll take a look at it later today then

[deep sapphire]

Why does HCF need to be turned off for items? Blocks don't have this issue

Not that it matters much I guess, after seeing that content log I'm going to spend the next week updating everything to 1.20.80

[pale kelp]

Different schema validations

[forest pulsar]

Do you guys think the next preview will be 1.20.90 or 1.21

[pale kelp]

1.21.0.20

[forest pulsar]

Alright, was just wondering because of the HFC stuff

I wonder if they’re going to get rid of the upcoming creator features one next after that

Do you know where I can find a list of the stuff each toggle adds in?

[pale kelp]

Nah, i feel like its gonna be the beta apis

[forest pulsar]

Oh shoot, right. I forgot APIs are like, what, 70% complete now?

[deep sapphire]

I think upcoming creator features and beta apis will always be there

as the temp holder for new things that are meant to be introduced within a few preview cycles or less

[forest pulsar]

Beta api one I can see staying as they’re will always be new script features to add in

Same with the upcoming creator features honestly

[umbral tendon]

Who says there's an end?

[wild dirge]

There will always be more apis!

[forest pulsar]

I meant 70% complete with what’s currently there 😂

I hope they continue to make lots more as there’s so many possibilities with them

[fiery yarrow]

70% is about right. (of current beta to stable progress)

[pale kelp]

99% when

[wild dirge]

How long do we get to stay on 70%? As in is progress as fast as new api request meaning we never leave 70%

[fiery yarrow]

My hope is we hover more around 90%

[golden mica]

PlayerInteractWithStuff pretty please 👉 👈

[vivid lantern]

As long as HCF exists 😁

[pale kelp]

As a creator though, i enjoyed that 50% bc it was so much new stuff coming it at once. Ofc that led to HCF and whatnot

[fiery yarrow]

sigh - trying...

[haughty silo]

You are doing great. Faster creator updates in the last six months than in the last six years. Keep up the good work, we all appreciate it.

[errant lance]

HARDER

kidding

:3

[potent seal]

❤️