Graphics General

[white willow]

i dont like the fact that you have to do janky work arounds for things that should just work

i just wanna make a resource pack, and have it work as intended. not have to jump 10 million hoops just to get villagers to look right

thats unreasonable

[rancid seal]

Villagers aren't that hard to fix tho. But it would be better if they did some kind of vanilla rtx resource pack with those fixes. Makes sense. But I think the main problem is that some rendering methods, like overlays, are just not supported by technology?

I don't know how to describe it

[white willow]

im saying this never shouldve been a problem

villagers should just render correctly

same with any mob that has rendering issues

we shouldnt have to fix it with some weird render controller nonsense

asking for a functional product is a perfectly valid ask

[rancid seal]

Villagers are not displaying correctly because overlay textures are not supported.

I can agree with you if we are talking about cats. Somehow using alpha channel with cat material makes light go trough cats body, so no shadow is getting dropped.

[white willow]

VV everything just works out of the box. you dont have to do any weird work arounds because they for whatever reason chose to not support overlay textures or whatever else is a problem

VV just works. RTX doesnt just work, and it hasnt worked right since it released

these are problems rtx LAUNCHED with, that never shouldve gotten past release

[rancid seal]

Maybe. I enjoy RTX, because fixing stuff is not that hard for me.

[white willow]

for me its not a matter of it being hard or not. its the fact we have to do it at all. my point is we shouldnt have had to figure out these fixes. they never shouldve been issues

if you have fun fixing these things, cool. thats nice. i dont. and we shouldve have had to and thats my take on it

[rancid seal]

I think this happend because mc RTX was created to show what nvidia cards can do. It wasn't optimized for gameplay, so we have those issues.

However, to fix some of those issues, we need any kind of vanilla rtx resource pack

I am not sure why there is no overlay textures support

At least it makes sense if we are talking about some stuff like grass...

[white willow]

im not really sure when the cross texture blocks broke but they used to just work

[rancid seal]

Oh, and one more thing. I enjoy not only fixing those things. I enjoying using interesting ways (refraction, materials) to make unique style of entities that look better with rtx. For example, glowing entities. A lot of resource packs doesn't nothing with entities at all.

[rancid seal]

Because they are using different blockshape nowdays. You can just set blockshape back to "cross_texture" in blocks.json and grass will render fine

Like: they work just fine

But sadly, you need to make a fix for them in rp, even though you need to write 3 lines of code... or 1...

[scarlet gust]

I enabled Threaded Optimization and set the Power Mode to Prefer Maximum Performance and I went from 30 FPS with 1% lows of 5 FPS to 150 FPS with 1% lows of 120 FPS

[robust warren]

💀

[scarlet gust]

I think you meant gold_block.png

[robust warren]

Stephen need fix mer

[scarlet gust]

Yeah that MER is terrible

[robust warren]

the reflection is too strong like glass so the albedo becomes faded

[tribal trail]

vibrant visuals has no rough reflections

screen space reflections are always like a mirror

[willow needle]

it should still be possible to get around it with dark blue

[pine egret]

Could you guys explain to me why does vibrant visuals looks objectively worse than Java edition shaders yet still performs worse?

[willow needle]

and can be combined with red to produce reflection but not to the point of glass

[pine egret]

It was understandable back when it was named deferred technical preview

But I checked today vv and I’m kinda disappointed

At this point it’s just better to use rtx mode

Im talking about pc players of course

[pine egret]

Also vv melted every phone I tested

iPhone 14 Pro Max, iPhone 11 and iPhone 17 pro

On rtx 5050 laptop i had more fps with rtx than vv

Oh and also Xbox series s had some trouble running it

[limpid sequoia]

yes

[limpid sequoia]

it's just for testing and i'll patch it

[severe grove]

Ok

Sudah di export sm dinamain grass_top_mer. Abis itu ngapain?

[limpid sequoia]

[willow needle]

Need more metalness but dont look like glass

[limpid sequoia]

and i don't think i have to draw something by hand

i'm going to uninstall Pixel Studio

[wise hinge]

?

bro deleted

lol

[limpid sequoia]

i did

from 8 AM to 9:13 AM

[scarlet gust]

RTX vs Vibrant Visuals

(I accidentally had my render distance on 8 chunks for RTX)

[limpid sequoia]

[languid mirage]

yeah for some reason I had to do the Opposite (always running prefer maximum Perf.)

but it didn't even fix it for long. idk what to do or say. Might just never touch Preview on my PC until i get my 5900XT* or 5950X.

If i get poop performance with that - I will genuinely flip shit

Until then - Java and Bedrock (release version) will be the only things I touch on PC.

if im not on Preview - its perfect. 200 FPS at 1080p with RTX on Bedrock.

Preview just refuses to perform the same

[blazing whale]

Why very long?

[limpid sequoia]

i have no idea why is it

[blazing whale]

is it finished now?

[limpid sequoia]

yes!

[blazing whale]

Wow

[robust warren]

it's like iron

[limpid sequoia]

i had no idea

[iron moon]

I wish rtx could have custom point lights.

I'm so sad rn

[neat musk]

Vibrant visual?

[quick nymph]

Yes.

[severe grove]

Yea

[neat musk]

What's the name pack of that vv?

[rancid seal]

This one uses custom vv shader, which is not a resource pack.

[neat musk]

How?

[rancid seal]

Shaders.

You can do a lot of stuff with shaders

[neat musk]

Like Mirai?

[rancid seal]

Yep.

[neat musk]

Do you know what vv shader he uses?

[rancid seal]

The one thing I hate about vv is there is a small gap between grass blocks and grass light can go trough.

[rancid seal]

No, I don't use vv

[quick nymph]

Looks like mirai based on the lights but don't know for sure.

[severe grove]

Vanilla Vibrant Visual

With additional of 11 other pack

[quick nymph]

Seriously that looks very different. Do coloured pointlights not have proper emmisive brightness

In vanilla VV

[neat musk]

If I may ask, what are they?

[severe grove]

No, i mean the Vibrant Visual pack name is litterally "Vanilla Vibrant Visual"

[quick nymph]

Ohh, okay. That's why they are so weak.

[severe grove]

Yea

[neat musk]

Can you give pack vanilla vibrant visual?

[severe grove]

From Mcpedl

Or cubier discord sever

(Vanilla rtx server)

[severe grove]

https://mcpedl.com/vanilla-pbr

[severe grove]

Btw you must use minecraft beta to get good lighting

[neat musk]

May I have the map that?

[severe grove]

I don't how how to export map, since export map feature only on laptop or pc

[neat musk]

Perfect ao

[neat musk]

Ok

[severe grove]

Damn, what pack is it?

[neat musk]

Its Mirai 2.11 bro

[severe grove]

Wait, it have a update?

[neat musk]

Yes you Want to?

[severe grove]

Yes, but it need mb loader, and i use minecraft beta and mb loader didn't support mc beta

[neat musk]

Yes, the shader also supports 26.10 but the Beta version also supports it.

[limpid sequoia]

1 hour

[wise hinge]

[limpid sequoia]

[limpid sequoia]

Sunset

Everything has it time

[wise hinge]

dense fog

[limpid sequoia]

yep

[rancid seal]

Why do you use multiple fog packs and PBR packs, if one overrides another?

[severe grove]

Idk

[limpid sequoia]

Pale Garden

[silent zealot]

DAMN

[white willow]

Very similar to my new one

[limpid sequoia]

i think i should have a new theme

[white willow]

I might make night a bit brighter. My monitor for whatever reason is quite bright

Pain of not having an OLED

[limpid sequoia]

nice night

my monitor only has 60 sRGB

[white willow]

Dang

My monitor just has bright darks

So things that don't look dark on my monitor are really dark for others

[limpid sequoia]

it looks good to me ngl

[white willow]

Idk im looking at it on my phone and its near pitch black outside the moonlight

[limpid sequoia]

ahhh i see

[limpid sequoia]

warm

[noble tulip]

Do you have a link for enhanced fog remastered?

[languid mirage]

Because he doesn’t know what they actually do - or how to use them.

He just sees fancy pack and wants to add it to his list.

[white willow]

im pretty sure this has been mentioned before but uh... fog doesnt render over banners

well it sort of does? just really weirdly depending on angle

[pale urchin]

Never heard about this issue before

[white willow]

ok depending on where/how you place the banner it sort of renders over

oh now heres where it gets even weirder

depending on where youre looking... it changes... (ignore how bright the fog is, please do not comment on that, i know its bright, but it shows off the issue nicely)

[scarlet gust]

RTX vs Vibrant Visuals

(I accidentally had my render distance on 8 chunks for RTX)

[scarlet gust]

I am closer than ever to making RTX look like Vibrant Visuals

Now there's almost no difference

The Vibrant Visuals sky is no longer pale now

Still have to fix the saturation problem

Too much saturation looks like this while too little saturation makes hues shift

At least that's how it works with Vibrant Visuals

I will be fine-tuning the saturation until it looks good

[severe grove]

I get it from tiktok

I have the link but it disseappear

But you can download Enhanced Fog v1.3.1 from MCPEDL

[fluid holly]

when we getting this update 😫

[limpid sequoia]

Refined Global lighting

[wind pollen]

Nice

[limpid sequoia]

thank you

[rancid seal]

...And accidentally gave no time for vv to load

[rancid seal]

Why don't you use volumetric fogs to make sky more blue?

Like, here I have it

Also, volumetric fogs are sometimes making things look worse, you can try lowering the density

[rancid seal]

Not the fan of leaves

[willow needle]

no problem, the important thing is that I can make this with art

[rancid seal]

I mean, if the goal of the project is to show how much stuff can be created with art, this is fine.
Or... I think I just have different tastes.

[willow needle]

This is a mix of Realism and Art, so it doesn't matter if people don't like it, because usually it's full Realistic in other textures (depending on taste)

[rancid seal]

Right now, I stopped working with my realism rtx resource pack project. But I would definitely change the blockshape of blocks, because default ones sometimes don't fit with realistic textures.

[limpid sequoia]

[limpid sequoia]

:doggy_smurk:

[wise hinge]

:doggy_smoke:

[rancid seal]

:my_cat_sleeping:

[limpid sequoia]

:slap_my_face:

[rancid seal]

:ok_ill_do_it:

[limpid sequoia]

:how_dare_you:

[rancid seal]

:yk_how_it_goes:

[limpid sequoia]

:dảk:

[limpid sequoia]

-# I'm hanging out so i'm working on my phone

[severe grove]

99,99% accuration

[quick nymph]

Bro managed to make rtx and VV look terrible at the same time.

[limpid sequoia]

[severe grove]

What pack is it?

[limpid sequoia]

Those pics i've taken on phone

[quick nymph]

Their pack, serene visuals, I think

[severe grove]

Ok

[quick nymph]

Uhm ok?

[rancid seal]

I was better to send this tk catgamer 😭

[limpid sequoia]

Silent Hills

[limpid sequoia]

[rancid seal]

@limpid sequoia , pls, try my rtx rp one day when you have free time, cuz I tried yours 😭

:doggy_smurk:

[limpid sequoia]

alright

[scarlet gust]

What did I do wrong?

[limpid sequoia]

huh?

[scarlet gust]

Here's some context

[limpid sequoia]

i was just commenting

[scarlet gust]

In what way did I make RTX and Vibrant Visuals both look terrible?

Just wondering

[limpid sequoia]

i can't tell

[quick beacon]

Reshade DoF preset

[wind pollen]

[limpid sequoia]

[wise hinge]

:doggy_dof:

[languid mirage]

The only thing I’ve never liked about High rez packs - is the leaves never look great.

Like - your texture is really nice. don’t get me wrong.

I just hate how much space is always between the leaves of High rez packs.

[quick nymph]

Very true

[rancid seal]

In my opinion, high res packs should change blockshapes of some blocks

I don't have high res pack yet, but in my normal pack, i already use this thing

[half nacelle]

How do you guys get the Godray so sharp? This is the best i've been able to achieve.

[white willow]

Depends on many factors but it's primarily fog density

Oh sorry fog density and henyey_greentein_g

Just examples. I think the second image is using much lower density than first and third

[half nacelle]

Adding Henvey Greenstein should probably work, since the density is already quite high; I'll test that thx

[white willow]

I recommend 0.65

[rancid seal]

By the wy, whaat is henyey_greentein_g? I saw this thing suddenly appeared in fog configuration, but I haave no idea what i this about. Does it work with RTX?

[white willow]

It does not work in RTX

It controls the distribution of fog. It's a specific parameter of what's known as a phase function. The larger the number, the more condensed the fog is towards a point (in this case the sun)

It controls the strength of directional scattering if that makes any sense

Just some mobile screenshots. In this case 0.65 is condensing it near the sun so there's not much backwards scattering (I believe mojang should split the phase into forwards and backwards but whatever) and allows for sharper rays basically

With a lower hg_g the fog would have less forward power, and be more spread out

[white willow]

To elaborate on what i mean with the forward and backwards, I've personally been fond of doing

//dual phase function calculation
//basically creates a positive and negative version and adds them
//using a random number for example
float phase = forwardPhaseMult * hg(VdotL, 0.65) + backwardPhaseMult * hg(VdotL, -0.25);

[tropic rampart]

remember that the series S reflections, which worked great back when VV was behind an experiment in previews, are still broken. >:(

[rancid seal]

Is this beautiful enough?

[rancid seal]

And that

[quick beacon]

This one's in ultra-wide. It's funny how this DoF preset on ReShade makes it not look like VV in a way.

[quick beacon]

I love how RTX looks, and this just looks stunning

[blazing whale]

No

[rancid seal]

Ure now.blocked, and you will sit in the block list!!!

[rancid seal]

Sometimes I feel that RTX was just designed to be used in realistic looking maps, especially adventure ones

[blazing whale]

🗿

[willow needle]

Nope, need reduce fog and saturation

Just my opinion

[scarlet gust]

Yes

[tribal trail]

He can’t reduce saturation

It’s rtx

[willow needle]

yes it's true because it's vanilla, but there's still better RTX if he wants

[tribal trail]

iirc he prefers vanilla

so it's not an option

[willow needle]

Ok no problem

[wise hinge]

sky is unique and pretty
lighting too

[robust warren]

No

[wise hinge]

[limpid sequoia]

https://tenor.com/view/no-the-office-michael-scott-scream-gif-16929305

Fourth 🗿 🗿 🗿

[wind pollen]

[rancid seal]

Saturation? Never.

I've increased sky and colormap saturation, because I like it ig

[rancid seal]

Who are you

[rancid seal]

But I see I need to work with fog

[limpid sequoia]

[rancid seal]

I did kinda increase saturation in my resource pack. Sky and colormap saturation

But I will lot return it back, cause I love it. But I think im kinda terrible at doing fogs. They are cool but they are bad at the same time

And I hate color mixing, the most terrible thing happening to me

[wise hinge]

rtx needs color grading customization

[robust warren]

I'm human 🙃

[rancid seal]

I mean I made bright yellow fog, but after some customization it suddenly became green

It looks good in forests, tho.

[blazing whale]

🗿

[wise hinge]

i mean vv level of customization via rp

[blazing whale]

@limpid sequoia

[rancid seal]

Do you think I know what it is? Im the person who never worked with vv

[wise hinge]

work with vv and you'd love it.
We can adjust saturation, gamma for example :p

[rancid seal]

Nooo.

No.

[wise hinge]

[rancid seal]

And no.

I will never let myself replace rtx with vv

[robust warren]

you need to learn

[wise hinge]

Have you never tried to work on vv...?

[rancid seal]

Never?

[wise hinge]

ever? english ahh

[rancid seal]

I've never tried tonwrok with vv

[robust warren]

[wise hinge]

[rancid seal]

Sorry, I meant I never worked with it

But yep, never.

Or ever.

Idk.

[wise hinge]

your pfp is cute

[rancid seal]

Thank you ig

[rancid seal]

Naww man

[robust warren]

?

[rancid seal]

I don't need to learn it I mean.

[robust warren]

Why not

[rancid seal]

Why do I need to learn vv when I don't work with it

[limpid sequoia]

[limpid sequoia]

wot is dat language

yuoray?

[rancid seal]

Typin eith screen keyboard one

[limpid sequoia]

now i'm making PBR

[wise hinge]

grayscale, invert

[limpid sequoia]

no invert (sorry for pinging)

i'm just taking refinements for polished blocks

[wise hinge]

ah smooth material
no invert moment

[limpid sequoia]

yes

[limpid sequoia]

2 hours for this

[willow needle]

If you already know the technique, it will be finished in 2 minutes.

and later the technique can be implemented on realistic textures so it's much easier

[limpid sequoia]

i'm noob Pro Max

[willow needle]

It doesn't matter if it takes a long time because of trial and error, the important thing is that you understand each function.

[rancid seal]

2 minutes

[limpid sequoia]

@willow needle 2 minutes

[rancid seal]

1.5

[limpid sequoia]

fair

[rancid seal]

:doggy_smurk:

[limpid sequoia]

is it funny?

[rancid seal]

yes

no

[limpid sequoia]

yeo

i'm in mood again

[willow needle]

Nice

[limpid sequoia]

thank you^^ now i understand

[wind pollen]

Another day in an SMP
(Upgraded base behind me)

[limpid sequoia]

[wise hinge]

rename to doggy smoke

[rancid seal]

Do that

[wise hinge]

[limpid sequoia]

fine!

🚬

[limpid sequoia]

rename to if you know you know

[rancid seal]

Need something more interesting...

[limpid sequoia]

now what would you say to me to try your project

[rancid seal]

My cat is cute

[limpid sequoia]

nope

again

[rancid seal]

And my cat saw my rtx resource pack

[limpid sequoia]

one more time

[rancid seal]

idk

[rancid seal]

Test it ig

Nothing to say

[limpid sequoia]

i'm not fine so i'll test it later

[quick beacon]

Moar DoF

[tribal trail]

oooh

thats a nice way to increase saturation

[rancid seal]

Thank you ig

[limpid sequoia]

is this too warm for pre-sunset?

[wise hinge]

[limpid sequoia]

[willow needle]

Remake sandstone + AO

[wise hinge]

lighting is not too warm ig? but
tbh it feels weird to me when the lighting has a warm color(approximately over 55% saturation?) and the horizon color is blue

[limpid sequoia]

i got it

[limpid sequoia]

the horizon is purple but lighting made it to blue

[wise hinge]

there are some color mismatches

[limpid sequoia]

tried a few hours and got nothing good

[wise hinge]

[willow needle]

Final result sandstone with directx normalmap

[limpid sequoia]

shadow acne

[wise hinge]

[limpid sequoia]

FOV 70 pic

Pink Sheep 💅

[wind pollen]

[wise hinge]

[limpid sequoia]

[willow needle]

cut sandstone

[wise hinge]

cat sandstone!?

oh

cut :3

[long ruin]

cat

[willow needle]

cat

[wise hinge]

[blazing whale]

cat

[wise hinge]

[limpid sequoia]

dat

[wind pollen]

[wind pollen]

Real cat here

[limpid sequoia]

[wind pollen]

[limpid sequoia]

i hate the clouds

[limpid sequoia]

[rancid seal]

Dont hate ur life

[scarlet gust]

That’s called hue shifting

[scarlet gust]

Why do the clouds in the 4th screenshot look like that

[scarlet gust]

Is it possible with accurate hitboxes?

[scarlet gust]

What the heck is henyey_greentein_g?

[scarlet gust]

Wdym? I made them look good. This is what RTX and VV usually look like.

[quick nymph]

That is highly debatable. You made both graphics modes look insanely washed out

[scarlet gust]

VV looks a bit washed out due to a bit too much saturation and not enough contrast, but RTX is completely fine.

[scarlet gust]

:adlib:

[rancid seal]

Sorry man, im annoyed, I will block you

[tribal trail]

No, it just his yellow fog +purple sky make it look blue

[scarlet gust]

That would make red
cmyk(0%, 100%, 100%, 0%) is #ff0000, which is red

[white willow]

It is a parameter that controls how condensed the fog is towards a light. It only works with VV

So if you set the number higher (like 0.65), fog is more packed towards lights, meaning there's stronger scattering at the sun or the center of a point light rather than more evenly spread

RTX uses 0.4 for its phase function

[limpid sequoia]

i don't care about that

[long ruin]

Real

[limpid sequoia]

[limpid sequoia]

i'm don't code the clouds now do i :)???

[scarlet gust]

What did the blocked person say?

I need context

[limpid sequoia]

i haven't blocked him

[scarlet gust]

Who haven’t you blocked? More context is needed

[limpid sequoia]

why don't u read it

[scarlet gust]

Because it’s a blocked message

And Discord isn’t letting me read it

[silent zealot]

Grow up dude.

[long ruin]

Literally

[tribal trail]

[wise hinge]

[limpid sequoia]

[blazing whale]

pawslight blocked cat gamer 🗿

[limpid sequoia]

poor fing 🗿

[blazing whale]

🗿

and you've blocked me twice 🗿

[limpid sequoia]

🗿

[limpid sequoia]

good

[blazing whale]

Nice normalmap

[limpid sequoia]

cutest ever

[willow needle]

trying to make a realistic vanilla texture

[silent zealot]

MY PC

[willow needle]

well i only use RTX 3050 4gb 🗿

[silent zealot]

Oh.

https://tenor.com/view/starman-superman-super-man-theres-a-starman-there-gif-11906140510431067153

MY PC

[rancid seal]

Oh, we have similar GPUs

Not saame

But similar

[limpid sequoia]

SHIny

💀

[willow needle]

you need reflection distortion

[limpid sequoia]

i need

[rancid seal]

Actually, performance when using high res normals and low res isn't different

[limpid sequoia]

same same but different

[rancid seal]

3050 ti 4 gb

[willow needle]

With AO

[limpid sequoia]

i used dark red

[rancid seal]

I love those horizons

And RTX clouds are not broken so far

[pale urchin]

That looks extremely blue

[rancid seal]

Naaww man its fine

I don't want to return this ugly pale default sky

My blue sky looks better. A lot of rtx resource pack don't even focus on it, and there is ugly pale sky...

You can compare resource packs that do nothing with pale sky with mine, if you want

I can do side by side comparement with regular sky and what I have in my rp

[scarlet gust]

Cat RTX 1.13 and Cat Visuals 0.5.2 might come out sooner than I originally thought
I was assuming the updates would take 6 or 7 years but this looks almost complete

[rancid seal]

What the

[quick nymph]

Sorry, I mis clicked again when I was scrolling

[rancid seal]

Why did you remove that cute reaction (((

[quick nymph]

I didn't mean to react in the first place

[rancid seal]

Me when I have 0 vv packs be like

[languid mirage]

YOOOOO

60 FPS againnn

imma try a new world lol

YOOOO

what is this sorcery !?!

[pale urchin]

I wonder if it was related to the revert of volumetric lighting from blocks

[limpid sequoia]

[wise hinge]

[limpid sequoia]

it should be with 16 not 64

[wind pollen]

[blazing whale]

need to be darkened a little more

[limpid sequoia]

yeah sure

[limpid sequoia]

[languid mirage]

Im pretty sure I was still having performance issues on preview before that was added.

However that is still a possible reason.

[limpid sequoia]

[limpid sequoia]

"max_density": 0.15,
"zero_density_height": 87,
"max_density_height": 30,
"uniform": false
should make this more foggy

[quick nymph]

@viscid skiff would you mind explaining why you went ahead and stole code from some newb variants, stole assets from anywhere you could get your hands on, rebranded "your" shader with clickbait everywhere, then proceeded to say that you made several features when they either already existed in the newb x legacy or were entirely coded by AI? Nothing in that shader is yours.

[viscid skiff]

Sorry, but isn't Newb licensed under MIT?

[quick nymph]

It is, my points still stand.

[viscid skiff]

And I do make modification on them, so it not just reupload?

[quick nymph]

I never said it was a reupload

[viscid skiff]

Also, it's not stolen from Newb Variants, it built on the source code.

Maybe you should elaborate which feature you mean and what I did wrong there?

[quick nymph]

Where did you get that black hole code?

[rancid seal]

[viscid skiff]

I made it using Antigravity. I don't stole it.

What makes you think I'm stoling it?

Here the before and after my final one.

The left image is the first iteration.

[quick nymph]

Oh, and by the way a report is being filed on your curse forge post rn

[viscid skiff]

What did I do wrong? please explain I want to know

The main point of that shader is to gave the anime feeling of outline

The entire shader source code even publicly available under MIT license.

Even the outline and modifications there is

[quick nymph]

It's entirely click bait

[viscid skiff]

What?

[rancid seal]

[quick nymph]

"Fully optimised version fixing peformance issues on all devices" "anime style" "advanced lighting and atmosphere" "flourescent endstone" "Gravitational Lensing: Light from the background stars and nebulae bends realistically around the event horizon."

The list goes on.

[viscid skiff]

Those are description on GitHub README. Not on marketplace like CurseForge.

[quick nymph]

It doesn't matter where they are.

[viscid skiff]

If it were clickbait, I put it on marketplace description.

[quick nymph]

You have similar just shortened version on cf description

[viscid skiff]

No.

[quick nymph]

Whatever, you can deny all you want.

[viscid skiff]

Just tell me what I did wrong. You accuse me of something I never did.

[quick nymph]

I have been told not to continue this here.

[viscid skiff]

That what I've been thinking since your first message wrongly accusing me.

[quick nymph]

After the wise words of arc, I will leave it to newb staff instead.

[limpid sequoia]

needs more fog

🌫️

[wise hinge]

[limpid sequoia]

whyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy

jungle blah blah

[wise hinge]

flashbang green fog

[limpid sequoia]

yep! because i had no choice

-# sorry for pinging

[willow needle]

Vanilla realistic with normalmap directx and using pink mer color mix between roughness and metalness like @limpid sequoia

and also use AO

[limpid sequoia]

yummy

[severe grove]

🔥🔥🔥

[wind pollen]

End Fog Ahhhh

So peak🔥🔥🔥🔥

[limpid sequoia]

thank you

[limpid sequoia]

thank you

[limpid sequoia]

Green

[blazing whale]

green

[limpid sequoia]

Jungle theme

[rancid seal]

[limpid sequoia]

[rancid seal]

[limpid sequoia]

i've forgot to try your pack

🗿 🗿 🗿

[rancid seal]

😭

[limpid sequoia]

wow

[languid mirage]

Ouuu

[limpid sequoia]

[graceful iron]

Why does the normal map look so noisy?

Are you generating from a heightmap?

[limpid sequoia]

i used Blockbench

[graceful iron]

It shouldn’t be that noisy then

unless they also allow the generation of normals from height

[rancid seal]

If only mojang fixed end flashes in rtx

They are kinda working starnge

[languid mirage]

Doesn't look different

[rancid seal]

Poluted world

[half nacelle]

I don't think the "pale" sky of Bedrock is bad
Btw i think a darker blue sky would go better with a cold biome, along with a whiter fog, or greener grass to match.

[rancid seal]

Pale sky you can see in ray tracing is ugly for me. I will never return it back.

Every single overworld biome fog in my pack is working with the sky, making it more blue

[scarlet gust]

Why did you use a normal map instead of a height map

Can someone fix my Vibrant Visuals config?

[long ruin]

Lmao what is that last pic

[scarlet gust]

Must have been the wind

[long ruin]

It's their personal preference

[scarlet gust]

@graceful iron The sky was too pale so I tried to fix my Vibrant Visuals config by reducing contrast and now it looks like trash. Please help.

My old config vs my new config

[willow needle]

Gold block

Raw gold block.

[half nacelle]

I don't know much because I've never been experienced or anything like that, but I think you could directly modify the sky in the biome client or change it to something more vibrant like ACES or Hable.
Reinhard is a bit too "safe" from what I know.

[half nacelle]

Ts is so goated ☠️

[white willow]

don't mention aces to him. You'll get an hour long lecture about why it sucks because colors change as they get brighter

[long ruin]

LITERALLY

[white willow]

This kid loves to talk about hue shifting constantly

[long ruin]

[half nacelle]

I didn't know☠️, btw I'm not a big fan of Aces either, but I don't hate them, I just think they have "Samsung-like sharpness", very strong

[white willow]

I get it, I do. I have been having some gripes myself witb hue shifting but it's in a completely dofferent project. VV mostly handles it fine

[white willow]

Just trying to save you cuz this dude has been going on about it for like a month or 2 now at least 😭

[white willow]

Welp

Here it comes

[half nacelle]

But is it okay?

And you're displaying sRGB, which isn't the best image type and isn't what screens generally use.

[scarlet gust]

I am NOT using the Academy Color Encoding System. Instead of colors desaturating to white after going above the value of 255, they shift to the right of the hue spectrum, so red shifts to yellow and blue shifts to magenta. In real-world scenarios, red will only usually shift to orange and blue will only usually shift to purple, but that is still hue shifting, and hue shifting is not worth it when better tone mappers exist like Aggregate eXposure. Red shifting to orange of yellow is acceptable because when something gets extremely hot, it shifts from red to orange to yellow to white to blue, but blue shifting to purple or magenta is not scientifically possible in the real world. The bottom right image is the result of infinite color temperature, and as you can probably tell, not even that can shift to purple or magenta. The Academy Color Encoding System also suffers from only having three perceivable hues (Cyan, Magenta, and Yellow) after a certain brightness, unlike Aggregate eXposure, which preserves those hues. As you can probably tell, the Academy Color Encoding System has many issues and is extremely overrated. The only times when you should ever use it are when there are no other options.

[long ruin]

Auuuugh

[tribal trail]

[scarlet gust]

The Academy Color Encoding System is NOT okay, as it shifts hues, crushes the hue spectrum to three tones, and doesn’t follow the Rayleigh-Jeans law.

[half nacelle]

In fact, these vibrant colors and the "Neon Vomit" are what makes the industry use ACES and the reason Reinhard has been abandoned since the PS3.
Technically, yes, Reinhard is better at it, but that's what makes Reinhard bad for what you want in the sky color; he makes the colors too washed out because he tries to be as safe as possible.
He tries to stop the "neon vomit," but this causes him to lose his vibrancy, become too pale, and lose the saturation of things.
That's why ACES is so loved and used; in addition to its S-curve in relation to light and shadows, it brings out extremely vibrant colors aggressively to improve quality.
This even has a name, Color grading, or do you think movies are made with colors to imitate reality or are too "washed out"?

In other words, it's no use wanting perfection while also wanting something vibrant in the sky; sometimes, imperfection is the "formula for success."

Hey bro, why are you giving a "color physics" lesson in Minecraft? ☠️🙏

[half nacelle]

Now, if you want to keep this, you'll have to accept your pale sky.

[scarlet gust]

Here’s an older version of my config that didn’t look like absolute garbage, but you guys said it was “too desaturated”, so I reduced the contrast and now it looks like trash.

[scarlet gust]

Aggregate eXposure is the perfect tone mapper, but Reinhard is the closest to it when it comes to Vibrant Visuals.

[half nacelle]

Could it be because you're using Reinhard? That it's too safe?

[scarlet gust]

I will accept the pale sky and continue to work on my config. I will probably contribute to use Reinhard, but I wonder if there’s a way to force Vibrant Visuals to use AgX or Aggregate eXposure.

[half nacelle]

Yay, I made him accept himself gys
Btw I also wanted to force a color grading like Uchimura (I get along very well with it, for me it's good for vibrant colors), but unfortunately isn't possible.

[wise hinge]

[limpid sequoia]

yeh

[severe grove]

I'll use it for my global resource pack, perfect

[limpid sequoia]

i'm glad you like it

[languid mirage]

Honestly - "World of Colours" update name should've been saved for the addition of coloured lighting lol.

Truly a world of colour now.

[tropic rampart]

true.
we need world of colour part 2.

[blazing whale]

Vibrant cat

[wise hinge]

Correct

I am a cat

:3

[rancid seal]

Realistic end -> no light sources = completely darkness

[rancid seal]

Remade trailer cherry biome ambience

[tropic rampart]

rabit

bnuuy

[limpid sequoia]

rtex sadar no lag no clickbait

[rancid seal]

Lmao do you want me to get 120 fps with my 4 gb GPU

[limpid sequoia]

yeah

[rancid seal]

No u

[limpid sequoia]

just change the voltage

[rancid seal]

Did you try my ultra artiex sadar?

[limpid sequoia]

not this time

i'm working on my project

[rancid seal]

me too, working hard

Working for already 2 hours without stopping today

[limpid sequoia]

me 8 hours already

because i'm not going to College today

[rancid seal]

13:00 was the time i got breakfast, right now its 15:32 for me. And I have to go to the college today

[limpid sequoia]

PaLe

[wise hinge]

[limpid sequoia]

🗿

[willow needle]

Blue

[limpid sequoia]

green at daylight

night is blue

[willow needle]

Not good

[limpid sequoia]

it should be gray

[tropic rampart]

blue garden :3

aqua garden?

[limpid sequoia]

Stephen's Garden

[limpid sequoia]

wait wat

13:00

really

[rancid seal]

Yes, smth is wrong?

[limpid sequoia]

at that time u should use lunch

[rancid seal]

Bro I sleep as well as cats do

Went sleep in 01:30, so I got up at about 13

[rancid seal]

My lunch was 20 minutes ago btw

[limpid sequoia]

[rancid seal]

Yep, sleepy sleepy cat is being sleeepy sleepy cat

[limpid sequoia]

lmao

[rancid seal]

:doggy_smurk:

[limpid sequoia]

emotional damaged

[rancid seal]

Whyy

I used emoji but it seems i cant use it

[limpid sequoia]

[half nacelle]

It's good

I meant that technically the pale biome shouldn't be a greenish-gray, but in survival mode it actually looks much better than a gray sky because the biome is pale.

It would only slightly bring the color of the sky closer to blue and leave the blue of the night a lighter shade of blue.

[half nacelle]

[limpid sequoia]

[languid mirage]

thats a vibe

24 chunk render in the nether with adjusted fog.json.
1440p.

3070TI fucks

low gpu util too bc my cpu is poopoo

[rancid seal]

I hope Ill do emissive entities for defuault rtx soon

[languid mirage]

just use BetterRTX ?!

[rancid seal]

No

Default RTX

[languid mirage]

mojang is mean and wont touch RTX anyway. why bother doing some jank stuff

Better RTX is BETTER

[rancid seal]

Bro, I am a resource pack creator, I can't use Better RTX

[languid mirage]

this doesn't make sense

[rancid seal]

It does

[languid mirage]

elaborate ?

RP and BP work with RTX.

sooo....

[rancid seal]

Things work and look different in default RTX and better RTX.

My resource packs focus on default RTX

[languid mirage]

whats an example of something that is negatively impacted by using BRTX ?

in your pack

[white willow]

The only major difference tbh is how fog is handled but even then you can now make a preset to make it perfect with RTX

As well as options to allow resource pack normals

[white willow]

Set fog asymmetry value to 0.4 and boom identical

[white willow]

Although some things that I've worked on haven't been added to the preset creator yet (like customizable range for the vanilla water scrolling normal)

[languid mirage]

didn't think there was any real difference lol. you can force mipmaps on/off to fix animated textures.

PBR is the same.

BRTX just improves on and adds things RTX is missing. Doesn't make it look different unless the preset is custom + RP.

[white willow]

Before even when making from preset creator, fog was always different. You couldn't control the asymmetry pattern. (Or better known as henyey_greenstein_g (no we can't make it work from resource pack sadly)

Default BRTX uses an asymmetry of 0.075 whereas RTX uses 0.4

Which gave very different results but other than that it's mostly identical to RTX

[languid mirage]

ah, thats kinda gay.

but good that it's adjustable now. No reason not to use it for pack creators

[white willow]

The creator website was going through a long overhaul so it just never got added

Oh there is one thing I wanna restore as well which is the default RTX cloud range. Make a toggle for extending it

Because that's also forced on

I get having preferences and liking vanilla RTX style. But with the new creator options you can basically get it back to how default looks and still get all the nice BRTX features and fixes 🤷‍♂️

But to each their own

[rancid seal]

The first issue was mentioned before, fogs. For example, in my resource pack I make the environment look like I want to, but in Better RTX, it doesn't look the same. Also, my reflective iron golems don't work with better RTX

Also, you know that Better RTX fixes some bugs. Some bug fixes RTX does can be re-done with using aa resource pack. Those are entity materials in general. But when I ue better RTX, i caan skip those bugs that happen in default RTX, and not to do a fix for it.

I feel like my english is cursed

[half nacelle]

I wish I had a computer for Shader 😔

[half nacelle]

You're talking so much about RTX that you're going to start speaking the RTX language.

Careful

[rancid seal]

Ray traced rain drops in RTX

[half nacelle]

It's very foggy and there are no shadows, is that normal for RTX? (I don't work with RTX shaders, only Vibrant Visuals)

[rancid seal]

I don't work with rtx shaders too?

And why there should be shadows anywhere? In rel life, shadows are mostly visible under the objects when it's rainy

That's exactly what happens in RTX

I work with rtx resource packs, not with shaders

[half nacelle]

In the trees below, there seems to be no shadow on them.

[half nacelle]

Actually, I think it's looking good, but I think the rain has too much fog for the Cherry area, which is more open.
By the way, having said that, it's also quite common to see this in rain effects regardless of the shader type; it's just my opinion.

[rancid seal]

[willow needle]

Raw iron

Raw copper

[severe grove]

Guys, is RTX 5060 8GB VRAM enough to run Minecraft RTX? Cause next year maybe i'll buy a better pc

I look 8gb vram is bit bad in 2026

[severe grove]

Or i should buy 12gb vram?

[blazing whale]

i'm only have RTX 3050 4gb

[severe grove]

And is it can run Minecraft Ray Tracing smoothly?

How much FPS do you get?

[blazing whale]

40-60

[severe grove]

Oh ok, maybe it's enough

[blazing whale]

even our team made realistic textures using only RTX 3050 4gb

[severe grove]

Bugdet gpu but it can run rtx smoothly. Damn

[blazing whale]

The most important thing is to adjust your needs and financial capabilities

[severe grove]

Yea my target is 11M rupiah

Hope i can get rtx 5060 from it 😅

[limpid sequoia]

Stephen's Garden~

[scarlet gust]

Even an RTX 2050 4GB or a Radeon 660M can technically run it, so an RTX 5060 8GB should be fine. I own an RTX 3080 16GB, and that GPU averages 150 FPS with 1% lows of 120 FPS.

[limpid sequoia]

i have just made a glitch

[wind pollen]

https://tenor.com/view/wow-cat-chat-juju-juju-cat-gif-16905771

Nice PBR

[wise hinge]

imagine hand drawing heightmap

[rancid seal]

Love doing that

[wind pollen]

G̶o̶o̶d̶ i̶d̶e̶a̶

[limpid sequoia]

i did it before

🗿 Inverted B

😖

[wind pollen]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-bruh-annoyed-gif-21339312

[limpid sequoia]

[severe grove]

Alright 👍

[robust warren]

this is just me agreeing that the heightmap is good

[robust warren]

for the door handle part it must be fully prominent and use the color #ffffff on the heightmap

[limpid sequoia]

thanks for ur advice

[robust warren]

what resolution is this?

[limpid sequoia]

u mean in game setting or MER?

[robust warren]

your texture

[limpid sequoia]

it's 16x

[robust warren]

For the hinge, it seems like it's still a bit inward, you need to fix it.

[limpid sequoia]

because i've inverted B channel

[rancid seal]

The feeling of minecraft trailer

[severe grove]

Yo it's too bright

[limpid sequoia]

My love:

[severe grove]

Bruh, when will RAM price gonna down

[robust warren]

Just fix your pixel in heightmap texture

[rancid seal]

4 pixels

[limpid sequoia]

6

7

[rancid seal]

4

[limpid sequoia]

before i shoot you

say: 6

[rancid seal]

4

[rancid seal]

[severe bronze]

what is this conversation in the graphics channel

[limpid sequoia]

dawg

[limpid sequoia]

this is a conversation

[rancid seal]

:doggy_smurk::doggy_smurk::doggy_smurk:

[limpid sequoia]

dawg

[rancid seal]

I will ray trace you :3

[limpid sequoia]

I'll Vibrant Visuals you

[rancid seal]

oh nah

[limpid sequoia]

[rancid seal]

I want to see ray traced stephen le

[limpid sequoia]

In your dream

[rancid seal]

and raytraced :doggy_smurk:

[limpid sequoia]

shoot

[rancid seal]

I will download those emojies for things I need...

[limpid sequoia]

[rancid seal]

I will send you ray traced :doggysmurkW: if I have free time

[limpid sequoia]

i'm married VV

[wise hinge]

end.

[half nacelle]

The tracks are very cartoonish😔
Goated texture for grass btw

[half nacelle]

Is it a realistic shader? The textures are VERY good and realistic.

[blazing whale]

nah this Strawberry Deferred V4 Rewrite with Vanilla Realistic texture + AO

[severe grove]

Wait is NVIDIA RTX Pro 6000 Blackwell and AMD Ryzen Threadripper Pro 9995wx can handle Minecraft?

[half nacelle]

Btw the textures are really good ngl

[white willow]

Yes but I see no reason to get those for a gaming based pc

Those are workstation cards

[blazing whale]

thank you

[half nacelle]

How long does it take to create a texture like this? ☠️

[severe grove]

Ofc

[blazing whale]

5 to 10 minutes for our team Strawberry Graphics and the one who made it @willow needle

[white willow]

Depends. Sometimes you get it right first go and it's 5-15 minutes sometimes you gotta keep going back and redoing then it takes an hour

[severe grove]

And, can Nvidia GeForce 256 can render a 4k film? Like Avenger:Doomsday?

[half nacelle]

It's a very short time considering the level of detail in the texture, impressive.

👏👏

[white willow]

I'd say that some improvement could be done here. It looks just, really noisy. I think the normal is just too strong, especially for VV

[blazing whale]

thank you

[white willow]

I'd recommend running a small blur over the height input layer, that will blend pixels better and cause less noise

[blazing whale]

Thank you for the advice

[white willow]

Or well whichever one is adding the like detail noise if you're doing multiple heights, cuz I also see "heightmap like details"

[white willow]

Love to see the new sticker getting use

[limpid sequoia]

hehe

[blazing whale]

but if it's like this we need to spend 6-8 hours for just a few realistic textures

[half nacelle]

☠️

Goats

[blazing whale]

so it looks like there is a heightmap because it is based on the heightmap :v

we make it from heightmap and then shape it in such a way

[half nacelle]

I personally think heightmap detail is cool, especially on metal; it adds a beautiful and striking level of detail, particularly in Minecraft.

[white willow]

These are some old images of stuff I was doing a bit ago. Never intended to release it was just bored

[blazing whale]

for the gold pattern it already looks good

[white willow]

I don't really do that much mc texture stuff anymore tbh

Well ok I do, but I much prefer the shader side of things

[limpid sequoia]

Mipmaps 😖

[limpid sequoia]

[rancid seal]

[limpid sequoia]

who pinged me???

[scarlet gust]

I recommend disabling mipmaps

[limpid sequoia]

Ask Mojang

Creators can't turn it off so how do i??

VV isn't BetterRtex Sadar

it should better when u continue with you "BetterVV"

and make something like 'HueShifting.exe" more PERFECT

bye!

[scarlet gust]

Here’s my config.
{ "num_mip_levels": 0, "padding": 8, "resource_pack_name": "Six Seven", "texture_name": "atlas.terrain", "texture_data": {} }

It works with both RTX and Vibrant Visuals.

[half nacelle]

Sunset temperature acquired-

[half nacelle]

What is this?

[scarlet gust]

If it wasn’t for hue shifting, that would have been either pure red or bright red depending on the tonemapper.

[half nacelle]

He remains the same ☠️🙏

Btw

[scarlet gust]

It’s my mipmapping config.

[half nacelle]

What is that?

Actually, let me remember what it is, but since when has this existed in Minecraft Bedrock?

[scarlet gust]

Since 1.16

[half nacelle]

I looked up what it is, and it's basically texture resolution.

[scarlet gust]

It controls how far away flipbook textures work

Disabling mipmapping makes flipbook textures work regardless of how far away they are from the player

As long as they’re within the render distance

[half nacelle]

Ngl u can create a DOF in Vibrant Visuals with this and overlay it using JS with Raycast

At least in theory, it's possible to create a fake DOF

IDK also regarding the connections between the textures and code in the Resource Pack for JS in Bedrock, so it's only theoretical, I think.

[half nacelle]

Even with the fog, it would be forced and wouldn't look right.
However, I believe this one can be linked, if I remember correctly, with Bedrock's JS.

[tribal trail]

yes you turn it off yourself in a pack

but it's pointless

it makes your game look ugly

[tribal trail]

mipmaps are good

[tribal trail]

so thats good, if it was pure red it would look bad

with colors shifting it looks good

[limpid sequoia]

[limpid sequoia]

"i don't care"

[half nacelle]

I would easily add it as an "inferno" version in my Shader.

[rancid seal]

They are still good for better performance, but you are able to turn them off

[rancid seal]

Sorry mate, it was me

[half nacelle]

That's not wrong, shaders are made to make the game look better, not to create perfect colors.

[limpid sequoia]

i also don't care

[limpid sequoia]

doesn't matter

[limpid sequoia]

tell me nah

[scarlet gust]

But RGB sea lanterns don’t work unless mipmapping is disabled

[half nacelle]

Bro is worried about sea lanterns☠️🙏

Btw i ngl idk

[half nacelle]

Translation: By the way i'm not going to lie i didn't know that.

[scarlet gust]

And I should be. My anarchy server has a lot of sea lanterns and they look like trash unless mipmapping is disabled.

[half nacelle]

But you can probably make a fake DOF (Depth of Field) with that.

I meant, idk if it's possible to activate it via JS, but it probably is possible via a block tag whether you want it to or not.

I killed the chat twice by quoting F DOF, is that a sign?☠️🙏

[limpid sequoia]

/time set 1000

[sonic canopy]

https://feedback.minecraft.net/hc/en-us/community/posts/43831381267469-Please-Enable-vibrant-visuals-on-Google-Pixel-10
Welp looks like I won't be able to run VV on my new phone 😔

[rancid seal]

I was never able to use vv on my phone, old or new

[rancid seal]

Normalmap.exe

[half nacelle]

Google Pixel 10 without support? As if the unsupported Snapdragon 695 processors and the 6s Gen 3 (which only has a 0.1 GHz higher clock speed) not working weren't enough, now the Google Pixel 10 is also having issues.

☠️🙏

Hat Trick Mojang:
Powerful processors without Vibrant Visuals support? Check
Color Grading as Reinhard while AgX and Uchimura are out? Check
No DOF in Vibrant Visuals, with in-game DOF and Blur shaders only incomplete (except for the Blur) for no apparent reason? Check

Hat Trick

Bonus: App/Site for creating Shaders, Mods and everything else, official but without mobile support, forcing everyone to do it the same way they would in Notepad, hoping for a JSON value system? Check

From all the talk I've had about DOF, you can tell that I really miss DOF in Vibrant Visuals ☠️🙏

[rancid seal]

Vv_dof.exe

[half nacelle]

WHY MOJANG, WHYYYYYYY

[half nacelle]

What is that?

[rancid seal]

Dog for vv in exe format

Dof*

Auto-correct

[half nacelle]

Ah

By the way, I'm going to do Raycasting in JS and test my possible Fake DOF (F-DOF) in Vibrant Visuals using Overlay and Mipmap.

[rancid seal]

It is interesting enough for me: will I ever work with vv?

[half nacelle]

It will function as an additional effect per behavior pack.

The basic idea is for it to call a tag that displays Overlay, either by text or more commonly as well, and a general tag list of all the blocks (you'll understand in a moment).
With the Overlay tag, this overlay will create a false blur around the screen, and with the tag for all the blocks (now) I'll use that to activate the Mipmap, since apparently it doesn't activate normally.
It would also work with fog and would be much less work than Mipmap, but I believe it would be too much of a hassle.

That's the basis of the idea, at least, considering the barriers I know and everything else.
It will also activate after the player focuses for 5 seconds, to avoid potential lag and crashes from it reactivating every time it sees a block.

[rancid seal]

In 5 seconds, I am going to sleep as well as my cat.

[half nacelle]

And

[rancid seal]

Ye im closing the discord and turning off VPN rn so I hope I don't miss anything

[half nacelle]

Fun fact: I use a VPN too.

[wise hinge]

[limpid sequoia]