1.20.60.21 - Preview

[spare flame]

I wonder how lower end devices are going to handle it

Poggy, just looked into the description of his video and the comments, do not see a link

[light tundra]

Lower end devices could just use lower settings I'd imagine.

[spare flame]

Yes, but I’m wondering how they will look and handle with those settings, currently from what I tested the lower settings don’t really do anything

[light tundra]

Even disable it if needed

Believe me, the lower settings definitely sacrfice some resolution for performance

[spare flame]

Which makes sense

[digital glacier]

That tree feels special

[spare flame]

^

I got it from the dl by finding it, but I’m just saying I don’t think he a link in his video

[digital glacier]

Dl has the updated one

[spare flame]

Yeah I know, but I’m saying he used it in his video and never gave credit to it through a link

Volumetric fog kills my fps for some reason

But RTX doesn’t kill my fps

[civic raft]

Is absorption responsible for the rays?

[digital glacier]

Test it

I have mine set to 0

I believe scattering is

[fathom sorrel]

you don't use absorption at all?

[digital glacier]

nope

why should i

[light tundra]

Your FPS looks capped in a way

Does the performance improve when you disable volumetric fog?

[digital glacier]

what is ur values?

[fathom sorrel]

for which fog

each biome will eventually have its own unique fog

so I have a lot of different fogs

[tired orchid]

Will try it out soon

[civic raft]

Waiting for the underground lighting bug to be fixed before tackling underground fogs

[spare flame]

It’s capped at 144 because I set it back to medium

[spare flame]

Yes dramatically, but mainly I have issues on high and ultra

I have a 3070 though, and RTX runs fine with volumetric fog

[digital glacier]

one that looks best

I don't mind

[civic raft]

Meanwhile me and my 5fps

[fathom sorrel]

one is pink, the second is green, the third is blue, another is orange and there is even rose gold

and each one looks completely different

idk if they are the best, but the absorption allows me to get beautiful and much better colors

[digital glacier]

do not tell me that is rgb values 💀

or those stuff use that

[fathom sorrel]

it is

well kinda

[spare flame]

Ive been wondering, why don’t you turn down the emissiveness of the ores poggy

Could just lower down the green amount and it would be fine

[digital glacier]

Doesn't work

Bern a bug since deferred

[tired orchid]

alright I'm currently now installing this preview thing nevermind something broke

any packs I could try

[digital glacier]

This makes no sense lol. The docs say that it's the amount of light being absorbed an- this hurts my head

But how are your rays so clear?

Like here

[civic raft]

Sadness

[light tundra]

Blood mist

[civic raft]

The blood of my enemies

[night saddle]

Hope they add beforeEntityHurt and the ability to cancel it to scripts soon, I nearly recreated shields 🦤

[civic raft]

https://vxtwitter.com/SmokeyStack_/status/1730371705602732245?t=kUIJ8QIX8bYp5HkiofzfYA&s=19

[magic walrus]

I saw it leaking through mountains and stuff as well in some of the screenshots that were sent in here

[silk thorn]

Make sure to ping Kayla 20 times so she knows

[subtle flicker]

oh I KNOW

[civic raft]

I will admit...the light leaking looks pretty cool

[subtle flicker]

it has it's own unique feel alright!

[silk thorn]

meh

uniquely bad

Not criticizing you I just think it ruins the entire experience of being underground lol

[humble geyser]

Over in the Minecraft RTX discord we already have a bunch of great resources that would fit right in here if such a channel were to be created. Sounds like a good idea to me.

[spare flame]

Nobody seemed to give a response on the idea, so I’d assume that’s already being taken as a no by the moderators

Otherwise RTX would have had its own forum awhile ago

[civic raft]

Not yet™️ was the consensus last time

[civic raft]

What kind of resources are you talking about?

[spare flame]

If your in the BetterRTX server
https://discord.com/channels/691547840463241267/1006724115417276526
https://discord.com/channels/691547840463241267/1007126023323783308
https://discord.com/channels/691547840463241267/1006719529910546583

Just a few examples

[humble geyser]

We also have some key information about the texture atlas dimensions for HD resource pack creators

I think CyberAxe created a video ranting about not being able to find that information anywhere else

lol

[spare flame]

I’d like to see a official dev resources channel, where not just anyone can post in it

[humble geyser]

Agreed. It'd be great to see a finely curated dev resources channel

[spare flame]

The current one is kinda random

[civic raft]

🤷 might as well just contribute to the wiki

[spare flame]

Why not both?

[civic raft]

Not a fan of that idea

[humble geyser]

If I were to contribute I feel like the information I have would require creating a whole new section

[spare flame]

Your knowledge is beyond our minds comprehension

😂

[humble geyser]

But if that's permissable then I'll eventually get started with that

[civic raft]

https://discord.com/channels/523663022053392405/1179978731121541150 Opened a feedback for a deferred rendering channel. Leave your thoughts and feedback there

[spare flame]

Upvoted

[obsidian copper]

Me who plays on switch and iOS and can’t enjoy the sweet new graphics for Mcbe yet

[velvet sierra]

chef kiss best i have ever done

[silk thorn]

Every screenshot I see is super foggy

[silk thorn]

Did a sandstorm happen?

[magic walrus]

clean your glasses

[silk thorn]

Not wearing them rn

The Deffered Lightning is def looking better with volumetric fog and lighting but still has a long way to go imo

The day doesn't seem bright enough for me and the nights aren't dark enough

If I set it to Midnight I shouldn't be able to see almost just as well as it would be during the day

Okay no more complaining 😭

[civic raft]

Save it for 1.20.60.22 smh /s

[velvet sierra]

best i can do is this , i can't seem to get it better without being super foggy

[civic raft]

I finally underdtand scatter and absorption

[silk thorn]

Are they going to have it where you don't have to have it really foggy?

To show the godrays

[civic raft]

RTX

[silk thorn]

That rtx?

[velvet sierra]

i think there should be ray strength in atmospherics

[silk thorn]

Something else that I think would be nice is to preserve the shadows from chests even if their out of view.

Also for other client entities

[velvet sierra]

oh yeah that would be cool and shadown itself is bugged in defferred

[humble geyser]

That's been possible for a while and has been implemented for everything except players and block entities in Defined PBR, as well as a few other packs

[silk thorn]

Block entities as in chests?

[civic raft]

Entities just lack support

[humble geyser]

Chests, beds, banners

[silk thorn]

Ah

[humble geyser]

Signs too, I believe

[silk thorn]

Well we need support for all of those

Including entities

Me need shadows

[velvet sierra]

signs and hanging signs and bell cannot use PBR or texturesets :/
armor stand too

[silk thorn]

Hopefully they add it

They fixed candles right?

[velvet sierra]

nah :/

[silk thorn]

I thought they put off light right or something

I saw while back

[velvet sierra]

no i meant PBR candle can't use pbr

[silk thorn]

Ah

Well, with all their doing with deffered I can see them fixing that

[humble geyser]

Yeah candles haven't been able to use PBR since the day they were implemented

[humble geyser]

I am hoping that long term issues like this one aren't neglected nearly as much with the new rendering features as well

[velvet sierra]

in this preview change log they fixed a z fighting issue
which improved vines and stuff

[silk thorn]

Deffered can't be abandoned easily like rtx was

[velvet sierra]

also warden PBR used to work in 1.20.30.20 idk what they messed up but it's not working anymore

[hallow vessel]

with deferred shaders can we finally have dynamic lighting that are smooth?

[silk thorn]

Okay gn everyone

[velvet sierra]

they can't and they won't
i think minecraft rtx is the worst compared to other games with rtx

[silk thorn]

Better rtx is good

Makes it a lot better

But yah regular rtx suck

[velvet sierra]

ngl minecraft rtx was a tech demo for nvidia

[silk thorn]

To sell more gpu

[velvet sierra]

yes promotions and stuff

[velvet sierra]

i just turned on clouds
this looks very nice

[tired orchid]

any packs I could try with this fogs thing

can't find anything

[velvet sierra]

i don't think the packs are out yet
poggy pack should be out i think

[velvet sierra]

i am at checkered lands with super fog

[spring plinth]

i have mine but it’s still not out yet because it’s still not where i want it to be

[velvet sierra]

yeah mine is too it's super foggy with the rays for me

i am at striped lands

[spring plinth]

a couple of screenshots from my pack during different times of day

[tired orchid]

I suppose I'ma get some random pack or make one myself then

I wanna see but at the same time there's no option.

[digital glacier]

I'm updating my pack later with some stuff

[rare grove]

this is so cool

[digital glacier]

teach me

[rare grove]

scattering is the main toggle that affects god rays

[digital glacier]

scattering also causes this when value is high

[rare grove]

yeah, as expected

[spare flame]

I’m surprised nobody saw the 5 fps but me 😂

I don’t get how the 2 settings high and ultra for volumetric for kill the fps so badly when RTX has fog way more insane than this and it doesn’t kill fps, I know I said that before but I’m just hoping to see optimization next beta

[velvet sierra]

is this a bug or intended why is weather not available for deferred under density

lava and lava resistances doesn't report any errors

[fathom sorrel]

i can send you mine in dm

[digital glacier]

can't deny it looks cool

[sacred ingot]

I don't think you know, you should for sure be told more

[fathom sorrel]

i hope clouds will be upgraded too

[digital glacier]

you can make clouds have their own effect on fog

[civic raft]

Absorption just takes away the rgb values from the sunlight, scatter intensifirs it from whag i can tell

So if white light hits your fog, and your absorption values are 1,1,0 your fog will be blue

[velvet sierra]

wait what i thought it would be yellow it absorbed red and green

[digital glacier]

so fr no point to increase those values

[velvet sierra]

any way it seems that vol fog for deep dark isn't possible?
there isn't a deep dark config in the biome client
I may have to add the config my self

[river mulch]

According to the docs absorption doesn't support rgb and instead uses luminance of supplied color

[velvet sierra]

eh not really if you wanna change the color of the fog

[digital glacier]

The fog already takes the color of the sun

[velvet sierra]

really? i must have missed it because i use white

[digital glacier]

yea, it's really cool how it takes the color of the sun by default

[river mulch]

Also absorption doesn't just decrease volumetric rays, it also absorps color emitted from objects. So for example if absorption is high and scattering is 0, terrain will just become very dark at distance

[digital glacier]

I just leave my absorption at 0

the main effects of the rays are max_density and scattering

[civic raft]

then why does my fog change color

[civic raft]

Which means only blue is left...

[velvet sierra]

yeah 💀 i forgot blud

[digital glacier]

so really, if you want rays = you need a lot of fog

[velvet sierra]

Luminance is calculated as follows:

Luminance=RGB∙[0.2126, 0.7152, 0.0722]```

[civic raft]

There we go rgb

Tada

[river mulch]

It probably just multiplies scattering color by 1-absorption, but for actual volume calculation uses single luminance value

[civic raft]

I was referring to the fog colour in my original message

[river mulch]

Eh, it gets confusing. Volumes really have 2 colors, one for scattering and one for absorption, so I wasn't sure which one you were talking about

[velvet sierra]

mojang need to add keyframes to the fogs or smth
my beautiful cherry grove now looks like a creepy 😭

[light tundra]

keyframes for what property?

[digital glacier]

I just finished my script to simulate that

[velvet sierra]

idk i would like the a property to turn off or adjust the intensity of the fog i suppose

"fog_strength": {
    "0.0": 3.0,
    "0.25": 1.0,
    "0.5": 0.0,
    "0.75": 1.0
}

[digital glacier]

they would need an id of the fog in there

[velvet sierra]

yeah

[digital glacier]

I am happy with how mine looks

[light tundra]

Oh I see the problem. Ambient sky light

This happens in caves too

[digital glacier]

spot the ray

[light tundra]

Center slight left

[velvet sierra]

so do i need to increase the ray leight strength or smth

[digital glacier]

🏆

[light tundra]

I'm not sure if it's something that can be fixed at the moment. The ambient sky light has constant influence throughout the fog and can't be controlled so easily

[velvet sierra]

:/ yeah i am not really good with vol fog either but hopefully the weather child object work in the vol fog too
now it's bugged or wasn't added?

[digital glacier]

This is hopefully just a temp thing

[civic raft]

I just need molang

[digital glacier]

not worth spending weeks to perfect the fog

They're going for a realistic approach

[civic raft]

Please let me use molang

[digital glacier]

i need that

[river mulch]

we need that

[digital glacier]

they would first need to make vol fog have smoother transitions

but so far, the fog is great

and I will use my script untill they add molang

time to tweak my sun colors once more

[silk thorn]

I really think they're going for marketplace Deffered Packs

Would make sense since it's a lot more acessible then ray tracing

[velvet sierra]

yeah ngl this would be a huge moment for bedrock

[digital glacier]

we will still make the best deferred packs for free

[silk thorn]

I wouldn't buy them lol

[digital glacier]

yea just make ur own

[silk thorn]

or use yours

in my experience the community actually keeps resource packs updated better than the marketplace

[fathom sorrel]

yes, but when you want the fog to be blue, pink, green or orange, this is useful

[obsidian copper]

My cousin says when deferred comes to his PlayStation he will be playing Minecraft every day

[light tundra]

I want preview to come to PlayStation

[obsidian copper]

I want preview to come to switch

[velvet sierra]

tell your cousin to wait 6 months

[light tundra]

That too

[obsidian copper]

I did

Wait

6 months?

[light tundra]

Much more progress will be made in the middle of the year

[obsidian copper]

Hopefully

[light tundra]

But I predict will release later than that even

[velvet sierra]

yes

[obsidian copper]

Probably august

Hoping for a august release for deferred

[velvet sierra]

with a toggle ofc

[obsidian copper]

Will 1.20.70 be the last update for 1.20?

That’s what Smokey stack said

[light tundra]

Could be, could be not

[potent harbor]

Finally got to install the beta on my android phone :D

[potent harbor]

Although we still got betas up and running, I think it would be better with previews coming to android as well

[tired orchid]

tested some deferred stuff on this version

apparently not sure if it was just me or not but I barely see fogs

maybe it's just the pack I have

[light tundra]

What was the fog density?

[tired orchid]

but the fogs is there

[potent harbor]

i can't even run shaders to test em on my phone coz it has a freakin mediatek processor

but the phone is midrange considering it's specs it has only leaving the processor

[tired orchid]

Idk how to check that

[digital glacier]

it's noticable when fog quality is set to between medium/ultra

(need a pack too)

[light tundra]

I think they have a pack

[tired orchid]

I have it at medium

[potent harbor]

it has like 8GB ram, 64mp camera, a long lasting fast rechargable battery, etc but the processor goes hard

[tired orchid]

using @fathom sorrel's pack rn.

[potent harbor]

i think i should probably try this beta maybe

now

where deferred packs

which one should i try first

[tired orchid]

the disappointing thing is the glowing effect still not there on android

though performance wise, actually seems to be improved a lot.

I could now use render distance on 12 without dropping down to 10fps below

[light tundra]

I haven't used beta in a while because I can't be bothered to join and leave the beta program. It's one of those things I won't miss

[digital glacier]

using ultra shadows and ultra fog really hits performance

[tired orchid]

turned my shadows and fog into ultra

i can now see fogs

at the same time uh I randomly getting the entire world black.

not sure why but rejoining the world sometimes fixes that.

[velvet sierra]

foggy bug effect

[silk thorn]

@digital glacier Update verification file

[digital glacier]

bro fr exposed me

[tired orchid]

managed to snap some screenshot.

[civic raft]

I love the slow chunk loading in preview

[velvet sierra]

broo what pack are you using the wood looks soooo nice

[tired orchid]

I love having everything at ultra aswell turning off upscaling and using native resolution (ultrawide 1080p) on a mid-phone somehow got me 9fps

[silk thorn]

dang the volumetric fog on ultra really drops my fps

even on a 3080

[digital glacier]

happens when shadow quality is ultra

[silk thorn]

That what I said

[digital glacier]

you said fog on ultra

[silk thorn]

yah

[digital glacier]

yah

[magic walrus]

get it right bucko

[digital glacier]

that + ultra shadows really kills fps

[potent harbor]

me with an android device crying in the corner

[fathom sorrel]

Prizma, it some custom textures

[light tundra]

I really like how leaves look in deferred. It's not sub surface scattering but it's nice

[velvet sierra]

very nice I wanna eat the oak log looks like chocolate

[tired orchid]

Mali-gpu are already fixed though

[velvet sierra]

you were right after all

now i just need to figure out if black fog exist

[fathom sorrel]

what gpu do you have?

[civic raft]

im always right

[light tundra]

They just don't crash

[velvet sierra]

eh debatable

[light tundra]

Name one time they were wrong

[tired orchid]

yeah they no longer crash although eh, shadow mapping issues are still there

that's why I kinda look up abit so I don't see those weird shadows

[velvet sierra]

💀 i found this i know this doesn't count but #1067876948858118185 message

[tired orchid]

funny bug I found

this is main screen aswell global resource pack btw

[velvet sierra]

prolly wrong text or screen

[potent harbor]

ikr. idk why it dosen't run on my phone though as if it's unsupported

[tired orchid]

what's your SOC?

[digital glacier]

1070

[potent harbor]

SOC?

it's a device with a mediatek processor unfortunately

[tired orchid]

system on chip or where your CPU/GPU would be

[potent harbor]

a low end one ig

[tired orchid]

I see

[potent harbor]

maybe i will try loading it up like rn or tomorrow morning

wait lemme try if it's possible rn

[tired orchid]

actually that's mid-range SOC

Not a low end.

[potent harbor]

okay so uh.

[potent harbor]

oh ok

[potent harbor]

I'm using the one from mcpedl (already had applied it in main menu itself)

guess that's one of the outdated versions maybe

any other packs i could try?

you guys got any .60 packs rn? @velvet sierra @civic raft

ik poggy is not done with his stuff

[civic raft]

Nothing released

[potent harbor]

ah yeah knew it ig

[velvet sierra]

working on it rn mine is trashed af but gonna release it rn

[potent harbor]

just need a temporary pack to test and see if deferred is actually working on the phone

i have tested it on pc though so it's fine

[civic raft]

Then just use my pack rn

[potent harbor]

.60 supported?

[civic raft]

You just wont get volumetric fog

[civic raft]

Yes

[velvet sierra]

smokey

[potent harbor]

that's all i want

no fog needed xD

[velvet sierra]

can i limit my pack to 1.20.60.21?

[civic raft]

No, you can however make it 1.20.60+

[potent harbor]

just need to test something

[velvet sierra]

yeah thanks

[potent harbor]

the game still says a no no

i have made sure everything is on

[civic raft]

You have to be in a world and turn on the experimental toggle

[potent harbor]

done that already

From putting a pack to toggle. Everything!

[potent harbor]

That is infact taken while in a world

idk maybe the device is unsupported itself

[tired orchid]

you might wanna check your soc gpu requirements

[potent harbor]

where?

[tired orchid]

check GLview extension app from playstore

[potent harbor]

k

i can check though but i already am getting a feeling that my device might be unsupported

[tired orchid]

then find this on "OpenGL feature" list

should be at very bottom of that list.

[potent harbor]

oh dang it

[tired orchid]

oh yeah that's definitely explains it

Deferred requirements are 256 above.

[potent harbor]

yeah i already knew that it was not supported

atleast my laptop runs with like idk 20-30 fps atleast

[tired orchid]

kinda strange

[potent harbor]

that's fine though.

[tired orchid]

because your gpu is somehow runs better than mine

[potent harbor]

15-20?

[tired orchid]

well in terms of rendering.

[potent harbor]

mine dosen't even have a graphics card lmao

[tired orchid]

I meant the phone gpu

[potent harbor]

yeah, smooth performance though

i kinda like that

[tired orchid]

for now your opinion is to use a preview/beta that does not contain mali-gpu fixes

which, that's where the requirements exist

[potent harbor]

right gn. gotta go

[potent harbor]

k

[mellow cypress]

Mine is also 512 but my game crushes when loading deferred Renderer

[velvet sierra]

is it mali?

[tired orchid]

minimum requirements for this on a phone was

• 4gb of ram
• must have atleast 256 of MCWGI (long text so not gonna do that)
• 720p screen
• Mali-GPU and snapdragon GPU.

[mellow cypress]

geoforce

[velvet sierra]

android 9 and above

but android 8 works too so

[tired orchid]

Android version shouldn't be matter

since jesus christ there's aren't snapdragon 8 series on android 6

as long your SOC reaches the requirements I guess you should be good to go

[velvet sierra]

yeah

[mellow cypress]

render I'm stupid

[velvet sierra]

💀 bro using powervr

[tired orchid]

powervr aren't supported

[mellow cypress]

but this stupid phone can support vscode

XD

[tired orchid]

every phone besides iOS can do that

[mellow cypress]

huh

[unreal geyser]

yeah just add the entry to the biomes client file

[velvet sierra]

yeah it's working now

[light tundra]

Will the fog be black?

[velvet sierra]

I can't seem to get it to be black
i haven't tried too much with the black fog

[light tundra]

No scatter; all absorption

[velvet sierra]

yeah it might work

[digital glacier]

I found the fog looks better with upscaling disabled

[light tundra]

Odd.

[tired orchid]

upscaling seems to be abit better here tbh

I don't see any ghost pixels anymore, well barely

[obsidian copper]

is it me or does that look like super duper graphics pack?

with the new fog feature

[subtle flicker]

getting closer, for sure.

[obsidian copper]

What

[subtle flicker]

That wasn't confirming anything

[obsidian copper]

[alpine yew]

Once people are able to recreate the so promised "super duper graphics pack", the developers will stop developing game as that was their final goal /s

[subtle flicker]

just agreeing with you that it was looking closer

What if the "super duper graphics pack" was the friends we met along the way?

[obsidian copper]

Btw idk if you can answer this but where is the super duper graphics pack now?

Is the code stored somewhere

[subtle flicker]

it's stardust

[pastel shuttle]

I really hope to see SDGP comebacks when Mojang is ready. An official graphics pack would be cool for the community.

[obsidian copper]

I’m sure mojang will release an official pbr pack

On marketplace

Or other content creators will

[pastel shuttle]

Don't care when or if they release, we just need an official shader pack and that's it

[obsidian copper]

Me and my cousin will be playing all day

[civic raft]

Me who named my pack Super Duper Graphics Pack

[obsidian copper]

Make it look like super duper graphics pack

[pastel shuttle]

Mojang cancelled SDGP due to poor performance on different devices, but now they finished working about Render Dragon Engine on all platforms after almost 5 years of working & we're now in the second phase: graphics upgrades capabilities & performance improvements. Next step should be an official graphics pack.

[civic raft]

Official Graphics Pack youre already using it

[pastel shuttle]

Thank you!

That was fast! lol

[pastel shuttle]

I haven't checked your pack but I saw some tweets

Does it changes only the graphics or the textures too ?

[pastel shuttle]

Btw, before the SDGP, they may do one more important thing: the next-gen updates for consoles and ray tracing.

Imagine if they combine the ray tracing with the SDGP lol

[silk thorn]

Mojang Space Update Confirmed!

[subtle flicker]

Ooooo! That'd be fun!

[silk thorn]

Imagine how awesome it would be if you could build a rocket and go to the moon

Then you can build a orbital cannon and destroy entire continents!

Then Interstellar travel where you can find habitable planets and haarvest them for their resources.

[civic raft]

Graphics only

[silk thorn]

Then finally a Interstellar war with a Alien race that lasts centuries and kills billions

[obsidian copper]

Man I wish I could play deferred

[civic raft]

Kayla takings notes on what NOT to add to Minecraft

[silk thorn]

I think an Orbital Cannon would be a GREAT feature

[pastel shuttle]

Make a texture pack too I remember SDGP was also changed all textures

[civic raft]

Hahaha, no

[pastel shuttle]

lol

[silk thorn]

To texture pack or Orbital Cannon?

[civic raft]

Texture pack, no idea what an orbital cannon is

[silk thorn]

Take a look at that and tell me why it wouldn't be a great feature for Minecraft

[civic raft]

Kayla using that to destroy HCF

[silk thorn]

If they have to remove block events and stuff at this point I'm fine with it

[civic raft]

[silk thorn]

I'm pretty tired of complicated blocks these days

the stable blocks are actually really nice

I did a few hundred blocks for the marketplace and it was actually a really nice experience

[subtle flicker]

No Block's Sky: A Minecraft Space Game

[night saddle]

zoinks

[obsidian copper]

Clickbait youtubers rushing in here as fast as they can:

https://tenor.com/view/forrest-gump-running-me-when-im-late-tom-hanks-gif-5144739

[light tundra]

Multi layered clouds when

[obsidian copper]

Yeah

[subtle flicker]

Clouds and water improvements will be a while

[obsidian copper]

Deferred new features announced

[light tundra]

Lol

[subtle flicker]

I mean.. you can probably guess that the water isn't really done in it's current state lol

[magic walrus]

world.afterEvents.playerInteractWithLiquid 🥺

[light tundra]

I'm glad we can agree on that 🙂

[obsidian copper]

Ik but will it be more realistic once it’s finished

[sacred ingot]

I want it in my life

[subtle flicker]

But I'm definitely going to keep the light cutting through ground bug 😛

[obsidian copper]

I don’t mind that

[light tundra]

https://tenor.com/view/thanos-memoji-gif-23490017

[obsidian copper]

It’s free night vision

[subtle flicker]

Can't make deferred too bug free.

[light tundra]

First thing marketplace makers will upload (Night vision pack)

[sacred ingot]

Write that down, write that down

[light tundra]

Oh no you don't it's my idea

[night saddle]

year 10 waiting for entity equipment to detect mobs for scrip

🦃

[obsidian copper]

https://tenor.com/view/write-that-down-taking-notes-school-universities-university-gif-17937210

[sacred ingot]

Does spellrune look even prettier now with fog? 😮

[obsidian copper]

Does addons support deferred?

Like will custom blocks and entities work

With deferred enabled

[subtle flicker]

Pretty sure folks have already been doing that

[light tundra]

Same way with RTX

[subtle flicker]

Better than RTX, actually, because deferred has fall-back options for when there is no PBR material

[light tundra]

Ye

[sacred ingot]

Quick someone link me to a deferred pack

[subtle flicker]

Poggy? Ping!

[light tundra]

Luminous Dreams (sorry no link)

[obsidian copper]

Someone already made a night vision deferred pack on mcpedl

[light tundra]

Upload it so that console players can get it for 200 minecoins

[sacred ingot]

Ahh poggy has not updated the pack yet 😦 Oh wait mayybe 👀

@digital glacier I want fog! ❤️

[obsidian copper]

That makes me wonder what kind of deferred packs people will make for the marketplace

I wonder if they will make custom adventure maps with it

Like rtx

[light tundra]

Most likely it will be full texture packs with shader like looks

[obsidian copper]

I’m more excited cause I showed deferred to my cousin and he says we’re gonna play Minecraft all day lol

[digital glacier]

They seem to have increased point light

[digital glacier]

the link on MCPEDL is updated :)

[civic raft]

For a moment i thought you were talking about realms and cloud computing

[digital glacier]

||join my server for the BP||

[civic raft]

Im actually torn about this bug 😂 the more i look at my ancient city acreenshot the more i want to keep it

[civic raft]

Mines

[sacred ingot]

The cubes look really good, in my spare time I might make some of the blocks emissive

[potent harbor]

alright just woke up

so good progress huh

[silk thorn]

By removing clouds?

(Sorry for second ping, first message got messed up)

[subtle flicker]

https://tenor.com/view/bob-ross-paint-painting-happy-clouds-gif-6059866

[sacred ingot]

Whoops I put your RP above the games RP Poggy 🤣

Exposing our terracotta

[silk thorn]

ngl I think the clouds look bad in vanilla, rtx, and deffered

[civic raft]

I turn off clouds

[silk thorn]

me too

[subtle flicker]

I will give the cloud artist your feedback. They will be crushed.

[silk thorn]

Pretty sure you guys have been using the same cloud texture since the start

[digital glacier]

Poggy is testing a new fog for his script

[subtle flicker]

oh, so you're saying they haven't been doing their job? Wild accusations!

[obsidian copper]

Has mojang tested deferred on any other platforms yet?

[sacred ingot]

The sun be so bright it shines through buildings

[digital glacier]

i forgot how to fix that

that happens with fog so moj got fix

[sacred ingot]

The sun is just shining as bright as Kayla ✨

[civic raft]

Good, let their rage flow through them and make something spectacular

[silk thorn]

Maybe get a new cloud artist. Or just make the clouds a lot more... cloudy

[subtle flicker]

harsh!

[sacred ingot]

The clouds are iconic

[silk thorn]

For everyone turning them off

[civic raft]

I think procedural generated clouds would be better

[silk thorn]

yah

less blocky too

[subtle flicker]

procedural, how?

[magic walrus]

world gen for clouds

[silk thorn]

Give us source code and we will show

[sacred ingot]

Custom biomes? Nah procedural clouds

[silk thorn]

hell ya

[subtle flicker]

custom geo clouds. then ya'll will hack it to do all kinds of crazy stuff

[sacred ingot]

US?!

NEVER!!

[subtle flicker]

I'm ON TO YOU!

[magic walrus]

no. I will just make the clouds look like funny amongus

[civic raft]

As far as Im aware in Java, it uses a png that has the cloud pattern. I think it would be nice to see randomly shaped patterns

[silk thorn]

Never stopped me from changing client side assets on the server events

[sacred ingot]

Quat

[civic raft]

https://tenor.com/view/yes-oh-men-in-black-gif-14582381

[sacred ingot]

Isn't there a cloud.png on Bedrock? I'm pretty sure we removed clouds directly where the dropper was on the mob vote event

[silk thorn]

Pretty sure

[civic raft]

Listen, just bc I make addons, doesnt mean i know everything

🤪

[sacred ingot]

yeah clouds.png

[civic raft]

.jpg when

[subtle flicker]

Look, just bc I work here, doesn't mean I know anything.

[silk thorn]

I know everything

[sacred ingot]

Can anyone spot where the dropper was?

[silk thorn]

ooh asset leak

even though I already have it

[sacred ingot]

Exactly 😛

SMH archiving our RP

[silk thorn]

private repo

[civic raft]

Thomas bouta email ms to take down the repo

[silk thorn]

I have the 2022 Server Test which is actually really rare

Was only open for a few hours I think

@sacred ingot Pls no take down

have mercy

[civic raft]

Yo i managed to get 10fps in deferred

[obsidian copper]

I remember back in 1.20.12 I had an attempt to try deferred on my crappy laptop I had the screen at the lowest resolution and was using better render dragon to enable deferred and it was at 10 FPS

It crashed a few minutes later

💀

But in those few minutes I was so happy

And satisfied

[sacred ingot]

Congrats!!!

[light tundra]

Android?

[civic raft]

No windows

[light tundra]

😶

What GPU do you have?

[civic raft]

Not a good one

[silk thorn]

gtx 1.000

[civic raft]

Huh interesting, tou cant use ; while in a boat

[velvet sierra]

yeah it had been a bug for rtx seems it got moved to deferred for a free bug

[spare flame]

That’s what I like to see

Stare at a block the whole time and you’ll get 15!

Oh, and hopping on what you guys were saying earlier about the clouds, it would be cool to be able to altar them. Or make your own, especially when we get custom dimensions. While we have the ability of custom sky box’s, they technically aren’t physically there

[velvet sierra]

nope

[light tundra]

Nope?

[velvet sierra]

how? i did it and did not get that

[light tundra]

Show me what values you used for fog

[velvet sierra]

{
    "format_version": "1.16.100",
    "minecraft:fog_settings": {
      "description": {
        "identifier": "lynx:fog_deep_dark_custom"
      },
      "volumetric": {
        "density": {
          "air": { 
            "max_density": 0.009, 
            "zero_density_height": 20.0, 
            "max_density_height": 10.0 
          },
          "water": {
            "max_density": 0.004,
            "uniform": true
          },
          "lava":{ 
            "max_density": 0.004, 
            "zero_density_height": 200.0, 
            "max_density_height": 100.0 
          },
          "lava_resistance":{ 
            "max_density": 0.004, 
            "zero_density_height": 200.0, 
            "max_density_height": 100.0 
          }
        },
        "media_coefficients": {
          "air": {
            "scattering": [0.0, 0.0, 0.0], 
            "absorption": [1.0, 1.0, 1.0]
          },  
          "water": {
            "scattering": [1.0, 1.0, 0.2], 
            "absorption": [0.0, 0.8, 0.6]
          },
          "cloud": {
            "scattering": [0.025, 0.03, 0.035],
            "absorption": [0.08, 0.04, 0.04]
          }
        }
      }
    }
  }

[potent harbor]

im alive again

[light tundra]

I'll try those soon

[light tundra]

This is what I used

"volumetric": {
      "density": {
        "air": {
          "max_density": 0.1,
          "uniform": true
        }
      },
      "media_coefficients": {
        "air": {
          "scattering": [ 0, 0, 0 ],
          "absorption": [ 1, 1, 1 ]
        }
      }
    }

[velvet sierra]

can't see to do it prolly my illuminace is higt or smth

[light tundra]

Try increasing the density

[velvet sierra]

ok

[velvet sierra]

it's working now thanks sis

[velvet sierra]

new friend screen look kinda nice

[civic raft]

Goddamn, someones popular

[velvet sierra]

💀 i haven't talked to them for 2 years

[potent harbor]

Send a full screen snappy

[potent harbor]

yeah that looks neat

and new addition as well considering we haven't had the ability to view the friends we added on xbox out of game.

[velvet sierra]

from the first pic to this pic i changed my gui form 0 to -1
so i gained one and a half friend to see witout scrolling

[potent harbor]

sad that it is not available for everyone though (including me)

[velvet sierra]

lol i haven't see the new death screen after enabling render dragon for a while now

[potent harbor]

wait what?

it is available in game even with RD but won't show up unless you have addons enabled in a world

[velvet sierra]

idk if that just me or deferred is messing with me

[potent harbor]

yeah i guess the deferred pack is messing with you lol

the oreUI death screen will only appear if there are no addons applied or addon experiments are enabled

[velvet sierra]

you can't have any resource pack applied either it seems
i disabled all my RP packs and this is reappearing again

[silk thorn]

dang Smasher really into keeping his info private

[velvet sierra]

ofc I can't let anybody see me

[potent harbor]

yeah. RPs count as well.

[jolly drum]

is this pack public or under active development?

[velvet sierra]

both

[jolly drum]

oh yea? Where i can download it?

[velvet sierra]

https://mcpedl.com/poggy-s-luminous-dreams-deferred-renderer-shader-pack-beta/

[jolly drum]

ty!

[velvet sierra]

i don't know if he has updated mcpedl version to have the new volumetric changes

[fathom sorrel]

It's the same fog as in RTX

If someone has worked with fog in RTX, they will have no problems with fog in deferred

[light tundra]

I wonder what it looks like when someone is in a world you can join

[velvet sierra]

hmm

[light tundra]

So I had a second account friended together with mine and have it join a world. It appeared in the old friends menu but nothing in the new one. I was only able to join when I explicitly gave an invite.
But maybe it has something to do with the other account being on 1.20.41. 🤷‍♂️

[velvet sierra]

hmm it shouldn't , in the old ui it would show the version the friend is playing at so
either this isn't implemeted in the new ui or they only show if it is in the new version

[velvet sierra]

the sun is teleporting

have you guys experienced this?

[velvet sierra]

it's not happening at the new world now

[obsidian copper]

Beautiful

I Can’t wait for deferred on iOS

And switch

So I can finally play these graphic packs

[velvet sierra]

ain't coming to the switch

[light tundra]

It could

[velvet sierra]

yeah it probably could and it can
they just need to optimize it reallllllly well

[digital glacier]

Vol fog on mali is bad lol

[velvet sierra]

you mean for perf or graphics?

[digital glacier]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1181518763317788712/1181518764223778876/Minecraft_2023-12-05-15-45-45.mp4?ex=65815a18&is=656ee518&hm=4aeeb4c527847e4cf6878ee855f389ded7b29a4b5a057c0279aa37b2641a1908&

[velvet sierra]

damn

at least the perf stayed the same all through out the settings

[tired orchid]

Never seen that issue before

I've tuned that slider actually alot during testing and never seen any graphical glitches.

[light tundra]

You Mali?

[tired orchid]

Yep, mali.

[light tundra]

Interesting

[tired orchid]

Maybe perhaps my mali-gpu is seems newer than that one from the video.

but nonetheless, I have 0 graphical issues with volume fogs

[velvet sierra]

mojang really need to add separate glare shapes and mie start for moon and the sun
i am fuming with how mie start is the same for both sun and the moon

[velvet sierra]

i got this too

[formal bay]

Hey

looks like i am pretty late xd

Wait nvm xd

i thought new beta released xd

[velvet sierra]

lmao hopefully it releases

[potent harbor]

the usual bugrock

[velvet sierra]

does than mean we celebrate bugs in bedrock by saying
"bugrock" cuz we are saying like bugs rock

[potent harbor]

yk what. let's keep calling it bugrock

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/924261341408137237.gif?v=1&size=40

[velvet sierra]

it has always been bugrock

[inner rivet]

and always will be

at least until mojang fixes the desynchronization of the client with the server

[spare flame]

Honestly it’s been getting better and better. They’ve fixed almost all of the major issues I’ve seen

[spare flame]

Played around a bit with shaders, found a few things

Water is almost invisible/no detail when in the day time (No volumetric fog, happens with it too at night)
Sun has a circular light
Blocks in another players hand and dropped on the ground are almost HD-looking

[velvet sierra]

water thing might be pack dependent

[spare flame]

fair, havent looked into other packs

[velvet sierra]

what pack are you using

[light tundra]

Also the fact that reflections haven't been worked on yet

[velvet sierra]

yeah they have been in the files kinda hidden away for a while

[spare flame]

Poggys, but ive heard Kayla say something about the water being bad, they shouldnt be normally in a state like that

Btw, isnt one of the RTX issues that the sun light is round?

[velvet sierra]

Water is just bad but the water being really clear is the pack not Minecraft

[spare flame]

No trust me, it has the normal water texture

[velvet sierra]

Idk I have that issue as well with my pack

[velvet sierra]

Nah it's not like this

[spare flame]

i guess so

[velvet sierra]

Nvm i was wrong sorry

[spare flame]

Another thing I hate, the detail of things get completely ripped out when theres emmision

[velvet sierra]

Yup

[spare flame]

And when you get close, it just looks wrong

No other way to describe it but then a screenshot

[velvet sierra]

Oh heightmap or pbr

Yeah that sucks

[spare flame]

Thats all I have to say on shaders though, otherwise everything else is amazing (Minus the massive fps drops as soon as you go to ultra quality on an rtx 3070)

[velvet sierra]

Not shaders btw it's deferred 3rd party shaders look better than this

[light tundra]

I think it has to do with the tonemapper used

[spare flame]

I call them shaders but you get the point 😂

[velvet sierra]

Way ahead of deferred

[spare flame]

Whatever’s used it shouldn’t look like that

I’m just hoping they fix these issues one by one

[obsidian copper]

Me too

And technically default deferred is a shader

Like every other rendering pipeline

[velvet sierra]

yeah but from the one who creates the packs that people can use
shader pack and deferred pack way diff in code

[obsidian copper]

Pbr packs isn’t shaders but they do enable the shader

So basically a shader enabler pack

[potent harbor]

got access to the friends drawer on mine (android beta)

looking neat

[formal bay]

ya, i like it too

[proper crypt]

well, im not surprised that its still in beta

[magic walrus]

I feel like instead of having a "search for players" button that would then open up another menu, it would be easier to just have the search bar there and auto filter based on text entered. It would take up the same amount of space as the button and be easier to access.

[sacred ingot]

The Friends (0) would indicate online friends

[formal bay]

ya, but i think there should be total count

[light tundra]

What's the point in that?

[formal bay]

friends

()

number

number of friends

-> friends count

[light tundra]

Yeah but it's more useful to see the number of online friends

what's the point of seeing the total amount?

[formal bay]

ya that will be under that number

like offline tab but green

[light tundra]

So two numbers at the top? Wouldn't that be confusing?

[formal bay]

is it already confusing?

i dont thing so

[light tundra]

I think we're not on the same page

Are you suggesting that the top should look like Friends (total friend count) (online friend count)?

Rather than currently Friends (online friend count)?

[formal bay]

thats my point

[light tundra]

Are you saying to remove the top number?

[formal bay]

no top is total friends count

[light tundra]

Speaking of friends list, I wonder what they'll do for joining someone's world

The old friends tab was replaced with the realms tab

And you can join players who you're not even directly friends with

[spare flame]

Is the profile images not matching the person a mc bug?

[spare flame]

I like that idea

[spring plinth]

eh, that would require new components

[formal bay]

ya but its more likely they stack it into panel just online on top

[spare flame]

Yeah I’d like to see that

[formal bay]

ya, ik it will be more like online players dropdown or something

and under online the offline dropdown or idk

@light tundra In my opinion it should be total, but you can prefer something different of course

[light tundra]

I just personally think there's isn't a need to see a total amount. Knowing the number of online players is more important

[formal bay]

in that case i prefer removal of number in title

and keep just online friends and offline

[velvet sierra]

Same I agree just say Friends

The number is irrelevant there unless you wanna know how many friends you have

[spare flame]

I’d just like to see something like that image, so that you can join a friends game or something

[trail osprey]

I know its been awhile since this was posted, but just want to say this helps so much with making complex behaviors - simple.

So here's a big thank you and the whole team! For making my job easier 🙂

[humble geyser]

Took about a year but I did get it done!

[fathom sorrel]

What the sigma

[vital tulip]

got confused while reading the messages until i noticed the dates

[spare flame]

where’s is it?

and wow that’s great

[humble geyser]

Under the content sharing section