1.20.30 broke world features | Bedrock Add-Ons | Page 1

tepid wing Sep 19, 2023, 8:23 PM

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I checked the changelog but I'm not really sure how to make features compatible with this update. any help is appreciated cause I barely know what I'm doing when it comes to features and feature rules :)

[FeatureRegistry][error]-Copy of superfalt | arc:scatter_big_blueshroom_feature | The feature uses the feature type 'minecraft:scatter_feature', which is considered internal and thus not compatible with this engine version of the game.

grand valve Sep 19, 2023, 8:28 PM

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tepid wing I checked the changelog but I'm not really sure how to make features compatible ...

1.20.20 min engine version

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try that

tepid wing Sep 19, 2023, 8:33 PM

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grand valve 1.20.20 min engine version

that seemed to work, thank you!

upper belfry Sep 20, 2023, 3:20 AM

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grand valve 1.20.20 min engine version

In the bp manifest? - I'm experiencing the same issue

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Just tried setting the manifest value but same issue

signal sequoia Sep 20, 2023, 3:44 AM

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upper belfry Just tried setting the manifest value but same issue

did you turn on Custom Biomes experimental?

upper belfry Sep 20, 2023, 3:48 AM

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yep

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signal sequoia Sep 20, 2023, 3:51 AM

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ohm I dont know, its working for some people and not for some

grand valve Sep 20, 2023, 5:55 AM

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upper belfry In the bp manifest? - I'm experiencing the same issue

ye

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try changing the format version of the features to 1.20.30

upper belfry Sep 20, 2023, 7:58 AM

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Unfortunately still no luck

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I'll try figure it out but currently too busy

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very sad

sullen night Sep 20, 2023, 8:57 AM

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im having same issue

viscid arch Sep 20, 2023, 9:35 AM

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Change to 1.20.30 in "min_engine_version" (manifest.json)

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I did this and it solved the problem, I hope yours is solved too

signal sequoia Sep 20, 2023, 4:08 PM

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viscid arch I did this and it solved the problem, I hope yours is solved too

no, isnt working

last wagon Sep 20, 2023, 6:16 PM

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signal sequoia no, isnt working

Did you change the features’ format versions too?

terse trout Sep 20, 2023, 10:11 PM

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i have change

format_version
- feature
- feature_rules
min_enginge_version
to 1.20.30 but dosn't work
(the files I'm talking about are files for custom biomes )

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log say not définition found for this folder

{
    "format_version": "1.20.30",
    "minecraft:conditional_list": {
        "description": {
            "identifier": "ken:biome_overworld/block_picker_autumn_tree2"
        },
        "conditional_features": [
            {
                "places_feature": "ken:biome_overworld/autumn_tree2",
                "condition": "t.biome_idx == 0"
            }
        ]
    }
}

signal sequoia Sep 20, 2023, 10:26 PM

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last wagon Did you change the features’ format versions too?

conditional list was removed, thats the problem

signal sequoia Sep 20, 2023, 10:26 PM

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terse trout log say not définition found for this folder ```js { "format_version": "1.20...

conditional list is now deprecated

last wagon Sep 20, 2023, 10:26 PM

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It’s not even in exp toggles anymore?

signal sequoia Sep 20, 2023, 10:27 PM

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last wagon It’s not even in exp toggles anymore?

Nope its literally removed

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why? I dont know what is the replacement? no one! use Scatter features

last wagon Sep 20, 2023, 10:27 PM

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cry_about_it

terse trout Sep 20, 2023, 10:27 PM

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so for the biomes it's finished?

signal sequoia Sep 20, 2023, 10:27 PM

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this is from microsoft docs

last wagon Sep 20, 2023, 10:28 PM

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I mean, you could just pair an aggregate feature with scatter features that only return their iterations if the condition was met

signal sequoia Sep 20, 2023, 10:28 PM

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terse trout so for the biomes it's finished?

biomes are broken since 1.17 xD

signal sequoia Sep 20, 2023, 10:28 PM

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last wagon I mean, you could just pair an aggregate feature with scatter features that only...

yes, but lag

last wagon Sep 20, 2023, 10:28 PM

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But still, conditional lists were so convenient

signal sequoia Sep 20, 2023, 10:28 PM

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yeah

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I asked to Kayla if it will be a replacement she answered "I dont know" xD

terse trout Sep 20, 2023, 10:29 PM

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I made biomes with conditional
but if it's removed
i can't make...

signal sequoia Sep 20, 2023, 10:29 PM

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terse trout I made biomes with conditional but if it's removed i can't make...

do what xorkent said, aggregare feature with scatter feature

terse trout Sep 20, 2023, 10:29 PM

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ooh this is possible?

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im going to try this

signal sequoia Sep 20, 2023, 10:31 PM

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same

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I will try xd

terse trout Sep 20, 2023, 10:31 PM

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@signal sequoia I just replaced "minecraft:conditional_list" with "minecraft:scatter_feature"
or it's not same files?

signal sequoia Sep 20, 2023, 10:32 PM

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no, it isnt

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see the docs

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you need to set the conditions in iterations in the scatter individually

last wagon Sep 20, 2023, 10:33 PM

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Like I said, less convenient but still functional

terse trout Sep 20, 2023, 10:54 PM

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@last wagon
ok it's work's
but i have question
it's possible to ensure that the custom biome does not entirely take the biome selected in the feature_rules?

last wagon Sep 20, 2023, 10:55 PM

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sorry youre gonna have to word that differently cuz i got no clue what youre asking me

terse trout Sep 20, 2023, 10:55 PM

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ok i exlain step by step

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i have change conditional_list by scatter_festure

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and it's work

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but

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I have selection plains in feature_rules to display my custom biome

last wagon Sep 20, 2023, 10:57 PM

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ok that part

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you lost me there

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what

terse trout Sep 20, 2023, 10:57 PM

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and my custome biome takes all the plains biome place

last wagon Sep 20, 2023, 10:57 PM

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oh youre using a biome filter?

terse trout Sep 20, 2023, 10:58 PM

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yes that's what a guy told me to do

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{
    "format_version": "1.19.50",
    "minecraft:feature_rules": {
        "description": {
            "identifier": "ken:biome_overworld",
            "places_feature": "ken:biome_overworld/determinant_overworld"
        },
        "conditions": {
            "placement_pass": "before_surface_pass",
            "minecraft:biome_filter": {
                "all_of": [
                    {
                        "test": "has_biome_tag",
                        "value": "plains",
                        "operator": "=="
                    }
                ]
            }
        },
        "distribution": {
            "iterations": 256,
            "x": {
                "distribution": "fixed_grid",
                "extent": [
                    0,
                    15
                ]
            },
            "y": "q.heightmap(v.worldx, v.worldz) - 1",
            "z": {
                "distribution": "fixed_grid",
                "extent": [
                    0,
                    15
                ]
            }
        }
    }
}

last wagon Sep 20, 2023, 10:59 PM

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oh ok, well theres no reason a biome filter should change its functionality across updates, you should be all good

terse trout Sep 20, 2023, 11:01 PM

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if you say so
but I don't understand why by just changing conditional_list by scatter_feature my custom biome take all place of plains biomes

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my block_picker feature with the change

{
    "format_version": "1.13.0",
    "minecraft:scatter_feature": {
        "description": {
            "identifier": "ken:biome_overworld/block_picker_overworld"
        },
        "places_feature": "ken:biome_overworld/enchanted_plain",
                "iterations": "v.o = q.noise(v.originx/128, v.originz/128)*0.25;v.px = v.originx/256 + v.o;v.pz = v.originz/256 + v.o;t.r = 0;v.n1 = 999;v.n2 = 999;v.i = 0;loop(9,{    v.x = math.mod(v.i,3) - 1;    v.z = math.floor(v.i/3) - 1;    v.p2x = math.floor(v.px) + v.x;    v.p2z = math.floor(v.pz) + v.z;    v.rx = 0;    v.rz = 0;    v.p3x = math.mod(v.p2x*0.1031,1);    v.p3y = math.mod(v.p2z*0.1030,1);    v.p3z = math.mod(v.p2x*0.0973,1);    v.p3d = v.p3x*(v.p3y + 33.33) + v.p3y*(v.p3z + 33.33) + v.p3z*(v.p3x + 33.33);    v.p3x = v.p3x + v.p3d;    v.p3y = v.p3y + v.p3d;    v.p3z = v.p3z + v.p3d;    v.rx = math.mod((v.p3x + v.p3y)*v.p3z,1);    v.rz = math.mod((v.p3x + v.p3z)*v.p3y,1);    v.d4x = v.p2x + v.rx - v.px;    v.d4z = v.p2z + v.rz - v.pz;    v.d2 = v.d4x*v.d4x + v.d4z*v.d4z;            (v.d2 < v.n1) ? {        v.n2 = v.n1;        v.n1 = v.d2;        t.r = v.rx;    } : {        (v.d2 < v.n2) ? {            v.n2 = v.d2;        };    };        v.i = v.i + 1;});t.d = math.abs(math.sqrt(v.n2) - math.sqrt(v.n1));t.biome_idx = math.floor(t.r*4);return 1;",
        "x": 0,
        "y": 0,
        "z": 0
    }
}

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maybe "iterations"

last wagon Sep 20, 2023, 11:03 PM

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that's what you changed the conditional_list to?

terse trout Sep 20, 2023, 11:04 PM

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{
    "format_version": "1.13.0",
    "minecraft:conditional_list": {
        "description": {
            "identifier": "ken:biome_overworld/block_picker_overworld"
        },
        "conditional_features": [
            {
                "places_feature": "ken:biome_overworld/enchanted_plain",
                "condition": "t.biome_idx == 0"
            }    
        ]
    }
}

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before it's look like this

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i have replace
"conditionnal_list" by "scatter_feature"
delete "conditionnal_feature": [
{

and replace "condition" by iterations

last wagon Sep 20, 2023, 11:06 PM

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im about to eat dinner so i wont be able to help, but all you needed to do was make an almost empty scatter feature with iterations set to "t.biome_idx == 0"

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copy-pasting chungus's determinant feature to the next thing down the line isnt gonna do anything but add more unnecessary computational bloat for the game

terse trout Sep 20, 2023, 11:07 PM

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last wagon copy-pasting chungus's determinant feature to the next thing down the line isnt ...

ohh i see

terse trout Sep 20, 2023, 11:08 PM

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last wagon im about to eat dinner so i wont be able to help, but all you needed to do was m...

Enjoy your meal

upper belfry Sep 20, 2023, 11:25 PM

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Ahh the conditional list is what was breaking my setup too then

terse trout Sep 20, 2023, 11:42 PM

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last wagon im about to eat dinner so i wont be able to help, but all you needed to do was m...

{
    "format_version": "1.20.30",
    "minecraft:scatter_feature": {
        "description": {
            "identifier": "ken:biome_overworld/block_picker_overworld"
        },
        "places_feature": "ken:biome_overworld/enchanted_plain",
        "iterations": "t.biome_idx == 1",
        "x": 0,
        "y": 0,
        "z": 0
    }
}

like this?

terse trout Sep 20, 2023, 11:59 PM

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@upper belfry
if you didn't repair
what I sent above works

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ty xorkent

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juste xorkent

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for multiple

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like this

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{
    "format_version": "1.13.0",
    "minecraft:conditional_list": {
        "description": {
            "identifier": "ken:end_biome/block_picker_end"
        },
        "conditional_features": [
            {
                "places_feature": "ken:end_biome/nebula",
                "condition": "t.biome_idx == 0 && (math.abs(v.originx) > 200 || math.abs(v.originz) > 200)"
            },
                        {
                "places_feature": "ken:end_biome/luminotics",
                "condition": "t.biome_idx == 1 && (math.abs(v.originx) > 200 || math.abs(v.originz) > 200)"
            },
                        {
                "places_feature": "ken:end_biome/eclipse_heart",
                "condition": "t.biome_idx == 2 && (math.abs(v.originx) > 200 || math.abs(v.originz) > 200)"
            }
        ]
    }
}

last wagon Sep 21, 2023, 12:24 AM

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terse trout ```js { "format_version": "1.20.30", "minecraft:scatter_feature": { ...

yep

last wagon Sep 21, 2023, 12:29 AM

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terse trout ```js { "format_version": "1.13.0", "minecraft:conditional_list": { ...

basically, instead of a conditional list, you're now gonna have an aggregate that does basically the same thing, so you'd turn the above feature into:

{
    "format_version": "1.20.30",
    "minecraft:aggregate_feature": {
        "description": {
            "identifier": "ken:end_biome/block_picker_end"
        },
        "features": [
            "ken:end_biome/nebula",
            "ken:end_biome/luminotics",
            "ken:end_biome/eclipse_heart"
        ],
        "early_out": "first_success"
    }
}```
and then each "biome feature" will need an additional scatter feature in front of it with the iterations set to whatever the condition was before, that way if the condition fails, iterations returns 0, placement doesnt occur, and the aggregate moves on to the next feature if appropriate

terse trout Sep 21, 2023, 12:32 AM

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last wagon basically, instead of a conditional list, you're now gonna have an aggregate tha...

and to take this into account ?

"t.biome_idx == 0 "``` ```js
"t.biome_idx == 1 " ``` ```js
"t.biome_idx == 2 " ```

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oooooh

regal valley Sep 21, 2023, 12:35 AM

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Make a scatter feature put the condition in interations towards each condition and join them with an aggregate feature

terse trout Sep 21, 2023, 12:36 AM

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I have no idea how to do this

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ok the translator did anything

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@regal valley

{
    "format_version": "1.13.0",
    "minecraft:scatter_feature": {
        "description": {
            "identifier": "ken:end_biome/block_picker_end"
        },
      "conditional_features": [
  {
       "places_feature": "ken:end_biome/nebula",
       "iterations": "t.biome_idx == 0 && (math.abs(v.originx) > 200 || math.abs(v.originz) > 200)"
       },
       {
       "places_feature": "ken:end_biome/luminotics",
       "iterations": "t.biome_idx == 1 && (math.abs(v.originx) > 200 || math.abs(v.originz) > 200)"
       },
       {
        "places_feature": "ken:end_biome/eclipse_heart",
        "iterations": "t.biome_idx == 2 && (math.abs(v.originx) > 200 || math.abs(v.originz) > 200)"
        }
     ]
    },
  "x": 0,
  "y": 0,
  "z": 0
}

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like this?

regal valley Sep 21, 2023, 12:44 AM

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No no

terse trout Sep 21, 2023, 12:44 AM

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oh...

regal valley Sep 21, 2023, 12:44 AM

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terse trout ```js { "format_version": "1.20.30", "minecraft:scatter_feature": { ...

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That will be your first biome

terse trout Sep 21, 2023, 12:44 AM

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i need make 3 block bicker

regal valley Sep 21, 2023, 12:45 AM

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last wagon basically, instead of a conditional list, you're now gonna have an aggregate tha...

Then you join each condition to

terse trout Sep 21, 2023, 12:45 AM

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with 3 different biomes

last wagon Sep 21, 2023, 12:46 AM

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regal valley Then you join each condition to

Each condition goes in its respective scatter feature in the aggregate

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So for example, t.biome_idx == 2 would go in the iterations of the scatter feature ken:end_biome/eclipse_heart

terse trout Sep 21, 2023, 12:47 AM

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oh really

regal valley Sep 21, 2023, 12:48 AM

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@terse trout Just change the ids

📎 determinant 📎 chorus_forest 📎 blossoming_spire 📎 block_picker

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📎 amber_land

terse trout Sep 21, 2023, 12:54 AM

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regal valley <@500426239400476689> Just change the ids

im going to try

terse trout Sep 21, 2023, 1:11 AM

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regal valley <@500426239400476689> Just change the ids

Nice it's work's

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and finally, the nether

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it's the same?

terse trout Sep 21, 2023, 1:38 AM

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@regal valley i need help one last time for this evening

regal valley Sep 21, 2023, 1:38 AM

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Yeah?

terse trout Sep 21, 2023, 1:38 AM

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for nether

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it's same

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?

regal valley Sep 21, 2023, 1:39 AM

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I haven't achieved it either

regal valley Sep 21, 2023, 1:39 AM

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terse trout it's same

The problem is that you would have to use above top solid but it will not cover 100% of the ground

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You should use vegetation patch even if it damages the shape of the biome a little

terse trout Sep 21, 2023, 1:40 AM

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do you have an exemple?

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I had another question
if we put "grounded": {}, for structure in the nether
where does she appear?

signal sequoia Sep 21, 2023, 5:31 AM

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@last wagon I used "iterations": "query.has_biome_tag('taiga') ? 1 : 0" as a condition in scatter feature, do you know why is not working? :/

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I need to make a scatter only work with a certain biome

terse trout Sep 21, 2023, 10:22 AM

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regal valley The problem is that you would have to use above top solid but it will not cover ...

i have make my nether biomes
and it's work's

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i have question how to make tree in nether

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tree or simple structure spawn on the floor

last wagon Sep 21, 2023, 2:38 PM

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Ghost ping? SlimeThonkBlue

signal sequoia Sep 21, 2023, 2:39 PM

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last wagon Ghost ping? <:SlimeThonkBlue:875215255381360660>

same

terse trout Sep 21, 2023, 2:39 PM

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no I just wanted you to come and answer if you have time
I often delete my pings so that my messages are more visible
sorry if this bothered you

last wagon Sep 21, 2023, 2:40 PM

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Oh, all good

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I’ve actually not done much with surface features in the nether, but I would guess a snap to surface feature would work, assuming that hasn’t changed since I last used it…2 years ago probably.

terse trout Sep 21, 2023, 2:43 PM

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I created a structure and I'm trying to generate it on the ground with grounded {},

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but I don't understand why it doesn't appear...

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{
    "format_version": "1.16.0",
    "minecraft:structure_template_feature": {
        "description": {
            "identifier": "ken:nether_biome/pyroclastic_tree"
        },
        "structure_name": "mystructure:custom_tree",
        "facing_direction": "random",
        "adjustment_radius": 8,
        "constraints": {
            "grounded": {},
            "block_intersection": {
                "block_whitelist": [
                    "minecraft:air"
                ]
            }
        }
    }
}

last wagon Sep 21, 2023, 2:54 PM

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I’m in school right now, can’t really walk you through this problem step-by-step at the moment. Sorry.

terse trout Sep 21, 2023, 2:56 PM

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last wagon I’m in school right now, can’t really walk you through this problem step-by-step...

ah ok, there are no problems.
I'm going to wait for you to come home to help me
if anyone has come to help me in the meantime

grand valve Sep 21, 2023, 4:15 PM

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some1 ping me 👴🏻

terse trout Sep 21, 2023, 6:38 PM

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last wagon I’m in school right now, can’t really walk you through this problem step-by-step...

i have copy end files
for the nether structure
dosn't work's

signal sequoia Sep 21, 2023, 10:16 PM

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check you have underground_pass on feature rule

terse trout Sep 21, 2023, 10:17 PM

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signal sequoia check you have underground_pass on feature rule

{
    "format_version": "1.13.0",
    "minecraft:feature_rules": {
        "description": {
            "identifier": "ken:nether_biome",
            "places_feature": "ken:nether_biome/determinant_nether"
        },
        "conditions": {
            "placement_pass": "before_surface_pass",
            "minecraft:biome_filter": {
                "all_of": [
                    {
                        "test": "has_biome_tag",
                        "value": "nether_wastes",
                        "operator": "=="
                    }
                ]
            }
        },
        "distribution": {
            "iterations": 256,
            "x": {
                "distribution": "uniform",
                "extent": [
                    0,
                    16
                ]
            },
            "y": {
                "distribution": "uniform",
                "extent": [
                    -64,
                    255
                ]
            },
            "z": {
                "distribution": "uniform",
                "extent": [
                    0,
                    16
                ]
            }
        }
    }
}

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I have to put this instead of "before_surface_pass"?

signal sequoia Sep 21, 2023, 10:18 PM

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yes

terse trout Sep 21, 2023, 10:28 PM

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@signal sequoia

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{
    "format_version": "1.19.50",
    "minecraft:feature_rules": {
        "description": {
            "identifier": "ken:pyroclastic_tree",
            "places_feature": "ken:nether_biome/determinant_pyroclastic_tree"
        },
        "conditions": {
            "placement_pass": "underground_pass",
            "minecraft:biome_filter": {
                "all_of": [
                    {
                        "test": "has_biome_tag",
                        "value": "nether",
                        "operator": "=="
                    }
                ]
            }
        },
        "distribution": {
            "iterations": 256,
            "x": {
                "distribution": "uniform",
                "extent": [
                    0,
                    15
                ]
            },
            "y": "q.heightmap(v.worldx, v.worldz)",
            "z": {
                "distribution": "uniform",
                "extent": [
                    0,
                    15
                ]
            }
        }
    }
}

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same

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dont appear

signal sequoia Sep 21, 2023, 10:30 PM

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your format versions must be 1.20.30

terse trout Sep 21, 2023, 10:31 PM

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ok im going to try

terse trout Sep 21, 2023, 10:37 PM

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signal sequoia your format versions must be 1.20.30

same....

signal sequoia Sep 21, 2023, 10:40 PM

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do you have your min engine version to 1.20.30?

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in your BP manifest.json

terse trout Sep 21, 2023, 10:42 PM

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signal sequoia in your BP manifest.json

yeo

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all my other structures work

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and I have no logs

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just dont spawn

signal sequoia Sep 21, 2023, 10:43 PM

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ah... I dont know :/

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sorry

terse trout Sep 21, 2023, 10:43 PM

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signal sequoia sorry

I think I will use the tree_feature

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but I don't know how to use it

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and I don't know if we can make custom trees

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I would like something that looks like this

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almost like this

upper belfry Sep 21, 2023, 11:53 PM

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That most likely is not doable with tree features. You could use a structure and some kind of scatter feature to place the ground blocks @terse trout

muted idol Oct 16, 2023, 10:15 PM

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@regal valley puedes ayudarme, tengo un problema con mis estructuras y no entiendo muy bien la conversación

#1.20.30 broke world features