1.20.30 - Stable

[midnight dawn]

aahh my brain!!

minecraft_legacy:blah blah

much better

[bitter shore]

Or just minecraft:legacy_blahblah to keep everything consistent

That way every vanilla feature shares the same namespace

[tardy musk]

Interesting. So I'm looking at the game files now, so legacy don't have their own feature files, but are used by feature rules

[lone parrot]

Yea

[high mist]

That's why I'm a little bit angry, the generations haven't had any progress, also be angry it's not a solution, so that's i want a good answer

but I guess there is no other way

[midnight dawn]

waiting for Hytale

[high mist]

lol

[midnight dawn]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1141568924157235220.png?v=1&size=48&quality=lossless

[tardy musk]

Moving to stable is and will be a painful process for a good amount of experimental people

[bitter shore]

Y’all need to be patient with custom biomes. They’ve literally said they’re aware of it and want to fix it, but it’s not gonna happen for a while.

[tardy musk]

At least now we can do more things without needing an experimental toggle

[tulip egret]

Elaborate

[tardy musk]

Downside is you can now do slightly less even with an experimental toggle 😂

[high mist]

☝️

[tardy musk]

For me not having to use toggles is nice.

But I fear for any Beta APIs I'm using 👀

Not the first time it had its nerf

[bitter shore]

Look on the bright side: All the features that are finally out of exp are safe and secure thanks to backwards compatibility

[tardy musk]

That's the upside I described!

Remember when they removed runCommand in favour of runCommandAsync?

[jagged blaze]

setLore my beloved ❤️

[bitter shore]

Yeah, but a little less broadly

[high mist]

Idk, I like the API but most of the changes have been for that, and not for other things

[jagged blaze]

…and then added it back (just so people would stop using it everywhere, I presume)

[tardy musk]

Well that's their current focus. They'll move to other things as we go along

[high mist]

ye

[tardy musk]

Yeah, that was just an example. There have been other nerfs for sake of stable

Like the equipment component only working on players

(for now anyway)

[jagged blaze]

True

[midnight dawn]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/748678229346484235.png?v=1&size=48&quality=lossless

[tardy musk]

Say no more. I understand everything now

[high mist]

wdym

[tardy musk]

But I guess what we should remember is that just because a feature was removed from experimental, doesn't mean it's gone forever, or the functionality of it

Who know? Maybe they are considering an alternative for conditional_list

Like with that bone_visibility on blocks

[midnight dawn]

"I dont Know" - Kayla

[tardy musk]

That's why I said maybe

[midnight dawn]

ah bone_visibility use permutations in the code, I used several blocks with bone_visibility and I got a message that I used many permutations in the world, more than 65k

[midnight dawn]

yeah, maybe

[tardy musk]

Also why I anticipate a more fleshed out response

Maybe they just need to ask the team about it

[midnight dawn]

An answer like "I have to consult with the team" would have calmed me down more.

[high mist]

It probably won't be of much use, but hey, I consider my project lost. 👍

[tardy musk]

Yeah I agree "I don't know" wasn't a good response

Very vague

[midnight dawn]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1141464953782534144.gif?v=1&size=48&quality=lossless

[tardy musk]

I mean, you could still attempt that alternative

Then see if it's lost 🙂

[midnight dawn]

try scatter first

is better than nothing

your better end addon is amazing

[high mist]

❤️

[tardy musk]

Stay determined. I did

👍

[plucky venture]

Apparently realms are broken with addons? is there a fix to what i'm trying to get to work?

• So basically, I just released an update for my anime brawlers realm and all the behaviour packs arent loading, the items, ect... but the resources work fine. However if I set the realm's save to the old version before I updated it, it works completely fine and all my items are there....? (I havent changed the manifest or anything-) Does anyone know if there's a fix to this, if so.. how do I fix it?

[jagged blaze]

Update changed a few things with items & blocks

[plucky venture]

But the old version/save still works completely fine If I set it back to that, except for the script which is outdated, the items and such are all there, in the new update I havent updated the items at all, I've only copy pasted and renamed basically, its all the same code basically.... so why arent the new behaviours loading but the old ones are???

[rotund oyster]

i really like the new death screen

[pallid quail]

Ig the good old "just use scripting" wouldn't work here this time

[midnight dawn]

lol

[tulip egret]

https://discord.com/channels/523663022053392405/1153346026472751145 cough Mojangsters please consider this

[velvet surge]

Mojang suck

[tulip egret]

Elaborate

[topaz heron]

It's opposite day

[tardy musk]

Why do you love gravel

[pastel oracle]

First time? 😅

[tardy musk]

Oh wait this is your very first message in this server :D

[pastel oracle]

The Java devs give similar responses to us on Minecraft Commands.

[tropic sundial]

Agreed

[pastel oracle]

Sometimes they're direct, but other times they don't want to promise anything.

[tardy musk]

Let's congratulate Tomas for staying silent on this server for several months 🎆

[lilac comet]

[tropic sundial]

how about no

[velvet surge]

Yes

[civic forge]

anyone has any issues with fancy graphics option on android whereas the game stutters and crashing after 10 mins or so?

(Includes memory leaks)

[slate hill]

I dont use any of these and now none of my stuff is generating :(((

[tardy musk]

Updated min_version ?

[slate hill]

I cant use lower min_versions now?

Im using 1.19.50

[tardy musk]

Try upgrading to 1.20.20

That's where the features are stable now

[slate hill]

Ok

thank you so much

[midnight dawn]

like this? (video not mine)
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/855090088325021736/1154158464310988932/Minecraft_2023-09-20-15-47-52.mp4

[civic forge]

No

Stable releases, not preview or deferred.

[high mist]

probably is ur device

[civic forge]

actually not just me

alot of people has that issue too on my telegram.

even my old budget phone has it

[analog cave]

are they all mali

[civic forge]

probably

but I'm pretty sure all of my budget phones were mali

I went ahead and asks couple of people about it and seems to have exact issues, mali to be specific.

I don't see people with snapdragon having that issue though

[analog cave]

hmm mali seems hard to work with or mali has too many gpus

[civic forge]

reminder that this issue occurs in 1.20.10+

It does not occur on below that

even 1.20.0

It still playable with fancy graphics off nonetheless.

[analog cave]

it's either mojang reworking the inners of renderdragon

[analog cave]

W

[civic forge]

it's just fancy graphics issues on mali somehow

turning it off fixes that issue entirely

[analog cave]

we just to need wait fabulous graphics from java to come lmao

[civic forge]

we don't

deferred is our fabulous graphics.

[analog cave]

it is so much better than fabulous but a WIN is a WIN

[civic forge]

guess what

[analog cave]

what

[civic forge]

this fancy graphics where it causes memory leaks and crashes somehow still there on the latest preview

[analog cave]

bruh i thought my dad was coming back

[civic forge]

( already made a bug report for it though )

[analog cave]

link? to upvote

[civic forge]

https://bugs.mojang.com/browse/MCPE-175112

If this doesn't get fixed

I might as well stuck with fast graphics eternally

[analog cave]

i have also seen some bugs but bug reporter doesn't updated it

upscaling bug and light bugs

[high mist]

idk, in my android no problems

[analog cave]

does your device use snapdragon

[high mist]

srry but i don't know what's that

[naive trellis]

Those are not really comparable tho

[high mist]

OMG sprunkles

hi

[analog cave]

i mean the cpu or the soc

[high mist]

ah, srry, let me check

[civic forge]

Somehow found another fix and this time might be a good one as for now

Toggle fancy graphics on and off during in-game/sessions, the game should be stable enough as for now even with fancy graphics on does not fix.

[analog cave]

?

[high mist]

uh i forgot

[analog cave]

lmao

[high mist]

SnapDragon 680 Octa-core

6 GB RAM

[analog cave]

that's why

snapdragon doesn't have much problems

[high mist]

[lilac comet]

monke

[analog cave]

"I am Proud to be a Nerd" -🤓

[lilac comet]

https://tenor.com/view/nerd-emoji-nerd-emoji-avalon-play-avalon-gif-24241051

[analog cave]

thanks

[lilac comet]

np

[lilac comet]

🤡

[runic sun]

the low input latency option is disabled and i can't see the vsync toggle at all, but the input still feels snappier than before 🤔

[thorny bobcat]

not really

if I remember correctly fabulous graphics fixes some transparency issues

[civic forge]

I don't think we have transparency issues on bedrock though

water still rendering behind the glass

[thorny bobcat]

issues with water, sign text, slime, banners, glass, glass item, clouds, ice

[pallid quail]

Candles too

[lucid galleon]

portal block

[civic forge]

honestly I never seen those so it doesn't really affect me that much

[civic forge]

They changed that screenshot.

[sterile fulcrum]

64 of chests for sure! and full stack of bread as vvell

[civic forge]

that one diamond chestplate

and 64 creeper spawner on the left side of creeper.

[amber cosmos]

Does anyone know why the addons I previously installed aren't working

[proper shell]

Hi! Sorry for the delay in responding to this question 🙂
Unfortunately, it was not part of the released feature rules this time, but it's something we are looking at. It's great to hear that conditional_list is important tho!

[lucid galleon]

hello anjku!

[topaz heron]

Did my suggestion for the full Block Destroy time list go anywhere? : (

[tardy musk]

That's good to hear. Was there anything that prevented y'all from just keeping it under the experimental toggle?

[lone parrot]

ok so I guess block properties are bugged

• I get an error log saying set_block_state did not find the defined property

[topaz heron]

They work for me

[proper shell]

Hi 🙂

[lone parrot]

can i see how you use it?

[lucid galleon]

how are you?

[lone parrot]

I even checked their docs to see if I did everything right, and I did

[proper shell]

That's a good question. Generally we are trying to clean up our experiments which may mean we make some hard decisions in order to keep things current.

[lone parrot]

So it is never returning?

[tulip egret]

Never say never

[proper shell]

So far so good!

[lucid galleon]

I’m glad to hear-! :D

[lone parrot]

yea idk my properties are not being defined/read

[tardy musk]

They're looking at it. the world gen modders have spoken ☁️

[lone parrot]

bring back bioms

[tardy musk]

Slow down buddy

ol pal

[tulip egret]

https://discord.com/channels/523663022053392405/1153346026472751145 only if this is considered

[lone parrot]

What stable changed how block properties work?

I guess this is what happens when u update ur format version after 3 years

[stoic spindle]

imagine

[mint bane]

Can anyone here explain to me what changed?

all my structures and features using vegetation patch and snap broke

[tulip egret]

Read the changelogs

[mint bane]

What does that mean??

I do not understand

[mint bane]

So far I don't understand what broke

[tulip egret]

You need to use min engine version 1.20.20

[vestal brook]

It means they are no longer behind the custom biomes toggle

[mint bane]

Is this inside manifest.json?

[vestal brook]

And use a min engine version

[mint bane]

Or within the json of each feature?

[vestal brook]

Manifest

[tulip egret]

Both

[mint bane]

in the manifest I am using 1.19.50

My vegetation patch is on 1.16.0
My snap to surface is on 1.17.0

Until 1.20.15 everything was working perfectly

What should I change??

[high mist]

I LOVE U

thats a good answer

[tulip egret]

.

[mint bane]

all?

manifest, Vegetation, Snap all for 1.20.20?

[midnight dawn]

Thank you for your response!

[mint bane]

@tulip egret now it's working

Friends

[regal shell]

Mojang moment

[mint bane]

I wanted to understand

because the

"minecraft:wearable": {
"slot": "slot.armor.chest"
},

Using

"minecraft:allow_off_hand": true,

No longer showing the item equipped in the left hand on the character's chest

Is it now no longer possible to equip items in the left hand and appear in the chest slot? Or did they change something

[limber orbit]

All methods with noise currently use that ;v

[slate hill]

why is chunk refreshing so slow in the newer updates

in 1.12 (only ver i test) when turn on and off smooth lighting, it is instant

in the new versions it takes a few seconds...

[midnight dawn]

after 1.18 (caves and mountains update) is slower

[slate hill]

gonna try and pin point which version started this problem

ok it seems between 1.16.221 and 1.17.0 it became slow 😬

[plucky pelican]

Not all, there's a few ones using scatter features instead of conditional lists

[limber orbit]

The few that do it are super lagged with the new noise methods they used condition list because it was easier and so many features were not needed 👆🤓

[bitter shore]

Not all worldgen that uses noise needs to use a conditional list

[limber orbit]

I'm not saying that you have to use it, I'm saying that it's easier since you don't need to have so many features.

[bitter shore]

I'm saying some situations don't need conditional lists at all

Like columns, or a simple Molang-based heightmap. You're just returning iterations. There's no conditions you need to check.

[broken hawk]

where 1.20.30 lag fix 🤓

[noble talon]

Randomly freezes

[civic forge]

randomly freezes?

[rapid prawn]

Mine's broke, so I'm salvaging my stuff before reinstalling 😢

[broken hawk]

Game tick freezes

[midnight dawn]

thats a problem processing an addon

its not new in this version

[midnight dawn]

in this update the performance was improved

[topaz heron]

I noticed that too.

[runic sun]

renderdragon

that's probably the cause

[slate hill]

No

the problem does not occur on 1.16.221 which is a render dragon (PC)

Forgot to mention this was a win10 thing

[broken hawk]

No it's not. There wasn't a problem before 1.20.30. I even tested it without addons and the lag is terrible especially with villagers. A lot of people already reported it on bugs.mojang.com

https://bugs.mojang.com/browse/MCPE-175100

Look at how many duplicates it got since the 1.20.30 update

[broken hawk]

Try to place at least 2 villagers and 1 zombie and see it for yourself

[sudden oriole]

Finally!

[analog cave]

new icon?

[broken hawk]

https://bugs.mojang.com/browse/MCPE-175100

[lucid galleon]

we’ve been waiting for it since 1.20.20.20 released

[analog cave]

nice

[bronze summit]

yeah simplification hell also struck minecraft

[analog cave]

true it is fine but it does not look gamey unlike 3d grass icon

[bronze summit]

the mobile one?

its not like you cant change it anyways just use processhacker

[analog cave]

hmm

i will try it

[bronze summit]

Resourcehacker*

mb

just need to find out where the .exe is

[analog cave]

thanks for the recommendation will try it

[tardy musk]

mobile Minecraft's icon was always 2d grass though..

[analog cave]

i mixed the launcher and game up

srry

[midnight dawn]

tried! working good for me

[broken hawk]

Good for you. Well, there's a lot of people have reported that issue though

[mint bane]

I wanted to understand because the

"minecraft:wearable": {
"slot": "slot.armor.chest"
},

Using

"minecraft:allow_off_hand": true,

No longer showing the item equipped in the left hand on the character's chest
Is it now no longer possible to equip items in the left hand and appear in the chest slot? Or did they change something

It was working until 1.20.15, in 1.20.30 it changed

Can anyone explain to me what changed?

[naive trellis]

Did you read the changelog?

This sounds relevant:

Items with the "minecraft:wearable" component using the "slot.weapon.offhand" slot will no longer equip when item is used in hotbar
https://feedback.minecraft.net/hc/en-us/articles/19545277817357

[mint bane]

I read it but I didn't understand

[mint bane]

So does this mean that if you equip an item in your left hand, it will no longer appear in the Armor slot?

If that's the case, Mojang screwed me, because I used this system to create items that when equipped in the left hand appear in the chest slot, in attchab

Attachables

[naive trellis]

Those two sound similar ... but the phrasing is slightly different. What I quoted sounds as if clicking the item in offhand slot no longer equips it

Hm, maybe there is something else in the changelog

[mint bane]

What am I trying to say before this happens?

[naive trellis]

Would the item necessarily even need "minecraft:wearable"? If it does not go in the chest slot, just the off hand

[mint bane]

Until 1.20.15 this worked

equipped on the left hand but appearing in the chest slot due to Attachables and wereables

However, in 1.20.30 this is no longer happening

[naive trellis]

AFAIK they did not change attachables

[tulip egret]

Im confused

[mint bane]

Now the character just holds the item

[tulip egret]

Why not just make an attacheable that simulates the chest piece in the attacheable file?

[mint bane]

Because I needed Minecraft:wearable to appear in the slot, only Attachables doesn't work

[naive trellis]

It almost sounds like attachables in the off hand are no longer working—that, or Hiro's attachable definition is no longer valid

[mint bane]

my Attachables codes are working, I use the same ones for Armor, the issue is only in this part of the left hand

[tardy musk]

But that wouldn't make sense though, 'cause the shield still works fine, and its an attachable 🤔

[limber orbit]

._.

I repeat, a condition list is easier but not for everything, only for certain things.

[tardy musk]

I love emoticons. They make the silliest of faces

[high mist]

😹

[mint bane]

So why is it bugged like this

[gleaming mortar]

BDS is so buggy

[tardy musk]

This isn't just BDS..

[civic forge]

yeah that includes most of devices that uses mali-gpu as current.

turning fancy graphic off is only option to fix that crashes related issue for me

[topaz heron]

How I supposed to make a guide when the Destroy time/explosion resistance isn't written if it wasn't changed.

https://tenor.com/view/confused-wth-wtf-really-meme-gif-17151805

Actual question.

[mint bane]

I managed to solve the problem

[tardy musk]

I made a bug report for the minecraft:friction component. Comes with a video and gametest pack.
https://bugs.mojang.com/browse/MCPE-175437

[tacit mortar]

I am experiencing a weird bug as I was trying to figure out a member's issue.

and
tp @e[type=armor_stand,name=bob] ^^^-1

Acts weird... 1st person and 3rd person (first F5)

tp @e[type=armor_stand,name=bob] ^1^^
and
tp @e[type=armor_stand,name=bob] ^-1^^ 
is fine```

Not sure if was a problem before this release

Am looking to get confirmation before I bother to submit a bug report

[pallid quail]

Wdym by acts weird?

[tacit mortar]

It puts it in the ground

and depending on camera angle for sometimes places where I am

[pallid quail]

Is it an issue in preview?

[tacit mortar]

Stable. I do not have preview

But if you could check preview, I would appreciate it... don't know if it is just ME

I was trying to figure out within an execute how to capture if an armor stand is to the left/right/front/back, one block away... (having trouble helping a member)... when I came across this issue as I was trying to position the armor stand next to me

[pallid quail]

Does this look correct? I'm looking directly forward, with ^^^3 in the command

[tacit mortar]

so you did tp @e[type=armor_stand,name=bob] ^^^3?

hmm, I did not try another number... lemme

[pallid quail]

/tp @e[type=armor_stand] ^^^3

That's what I did

[tacit mortar]

I did it... and in the ground

[pallid quail]

Did you do /tp ~~~ 0 0 before that?

to align the player

[nova flower]

Are you looking down?

[tacit mortar]

oh, he is on ground now..

[pallid quail]

if you look even 1 degree below the horizon, it will clip through the ground

[tacit mortar]

oh dang

[pallid quail]

If that's the issue, this is correct behaviour

[tacit mortar]

Anyone wanting to help... LOL... https://discord.com/channels/523663022053392405/1155909896106164295

[quasi shore]

seems correct, its 3 blocks in front of you

[tacit mortar]

I guess I am always looking downish... and it was ME

[high mist]

lol

[west plover]

bedrock at its finest

[lucid galleon]

that world looks interesting

[high mist]

[high mist]

fr

[topaz heron]

I was looking through the destroy time values for blocks that listed in the changelog.. isn't this wrong? I'm pretty sure these are times if you are to break them with your hand. It defintiley takes much longer then 3.5 seconds to break the lodestone.

[junior solar]

That's not the time it takes to destroy the block with your fist, it's the hardness value, which is a value used in the calculations for destroy times

[topaz heron]

ohh

[junior solar]

If you look on the Wiki, the hardness value for the Lodestone matches up as 3.5

[topaz heron]

How do you calculate destroy time from that?

[junior solar]

Not sure

[topaz heron]

But it says destroy time : (

[tardy musk]

Maybe it's a relation between hand break and something else

[junior solar]

Try searching for "Hardness" on this page https://minecraft.wiki/w/Breaking

"The base time in seconds is the block's hardness multiplied by 1.5 if the player can harvest the block with the current tool, or 5 if the player cannot."

[topaz heron]

I see

[junior solar]

Yea unfortunately that's wrong lol

[topaz heron]

No idea how I managed to calculate the right destroy speed for netherite pickaxe despite not having the right values

[visual warren]

do structure blocks play nicely with custom blocks/entities?

[mint bane]

if there is loot in the chest it does not appear