1.20.30.20 - Preview

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👀 What if you were

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i can prove that we are in a simulation

[inland meteor]

BTW you can get this look by changing the bloom configuration in the renderer folder

In the game files

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I don’t want to mess with the game files yet, maybe later

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pls don't if you do copy og files and store them somewhere

[inland meteor]

This kinda reminds me of Wii games

[coarse scaffold]

I always make a backup of the full preview lol

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nice

[inland meteor]

It would be so awesome.
It would be so cool.
If beacon beams and lightning bolts could create their own bloom!

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that’s why i have almost 100Gb of saved versions

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not nice

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You can’t use PBR on beacon beam sadly :<

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nah i’m fine with that

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nice

[inland meteor]

They could have hardcoded emission for all I care

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:<

[inland meteor]

As long as they're bright

[night linden]

Slime look weird with shader

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it’s not shaders

[inland meteor]

Transparent objects don't do the whole "multiply colour" thing

You know like stained glass in real life

I think they should consider doing that

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Yeah

[inland meteor]

Also, has anyone filed a bug report yet on the bump map normals not pointing the right direcionts

[coarse scaffold]

I don’t know

[night linden]

this is the power of ray tracing

[wind pulsar]

why do you compare rtx to something that was literally "too early"?

that's like comparing to finished to unfinished

[coarse scaffold]

Yeah, this is the first technical preview

[night linden]

sorry im a rtx lover

[wind pulsar]

java shaders would already beat rtx the hell out of it.

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ok so i love my sister I ain't bragging about it duh

[night linden]

I don't think so and if I do, the graphic cards have to work 10 times more than RTX

[coral hornet]

ya, bc RTX is not developed anymore

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[night linden]

I think they are developing the shader API to the end because only a very small part of the players can use RTX at all, but who are done with it, they will certainly continue with the RTX development

[wind pulsar]

you don't need an rtx to make them looks nice looking, even non-rtx shaders is more better than bedrock rtx.

[night linden]

But because 2500 shader cores bring the same performance as 20 RT cores on my graphics card, I believe that RTX is the future for 3D games

when rtx is on

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bro don't argue with him anymore

[wind pulsar]

people out there has motion blur, cool looking water and underwater and better player shadows in first person while bedrock has none of those

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i know you love rtx but you cant just rub it in the face of people who can't enjoy rtx also that shit is abandoned by mojang

also i know why you mad you mad cause shaders getting more love than rtx

[night linden]

ok

[coral hornet]

like, i am saying If Mojang rush with RTX then it could do really good job with that, only issue is that shaders are more customable, so ppls can found somethng what they love, for example RTX is really constant and there are not many features what is possible to change...

i dont like when minecraft is too realistic

so i dont like RTX that much

but its nice looking

[night linden]

no thats not true i also like the fact that mobile player can have beautiful grafic

[coarse scaffold]

Mojang might add features from RTX into deferred which will make it 10x better than RTX

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so what is the point of you arguing then

[night linden]

This ends in a shader battle😅

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and this is only the first technical preview and there are already people who prefer deferred over RTX

[brave birch]

I don't really like how vanilla rtx looks, but if it was more customizable like deferred it would be great. The better rtx mod has stuff like wavy water and a new sun angle which make it look very good

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you can't compare rtx to shader becasue it was never the same

rtx is made for realistic lighting which never fitted the game it looks cool and all

[brave birch]

I hope they do that but I think their main priority is working on deferred since it is available for so many more devices

Wait I misread the message lol

[coral hornet]

if you have RTX chip then its way more better performed thats one of PROs what is only RTX based

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there is a spider

[wind pulsar]

there's both rtx and shader mix on java which, absolutely 10x better than bedrock rtx.

[coral hornet]

ya, but no one wants to burn his PC

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i want to

[wind pulsar]

you can cook with it though

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Imagine cooking eggs with a pc

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some one cooked meat on a cpu

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I think I’ve seen that

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Energy Recycling

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110%

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i've seen a few they look delicious

i just wanna bite the motherboard

kingdark thank you man

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that cpu probably a goner now I think

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is it possible to use meat as thermal paste

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No problem ^-^

[wind pulsar]

thermal paste aren't edible.

[fiery jackal]

Perfect

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you can't eat thermal paste but can you thermal paste the edible

[fiery jackal]

Brb

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it is currently 11pm and i am high

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🐴

[wind pulsar]

I think you ate too much thermal paste

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maybe i am thermal paste

[fiery jackal]

Ayo

[wind pulsar]

yeah no this sounds sus

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you said "I think you ate too much thermal paste" and i said "maybe i am thermal paste" did i eat myself

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https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/807536321483505694.gif?v=1&size=48&quality=lossless

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nah i amma got to sleepp

[coral hornet]

good night

[fiery jackal]

Good night happy dream and uhhhhh keep the bug bite away?

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#off-topic

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Just move to #off-topic

[night linden]

Do PBR textures work with texture variations

[cold geode]

Isn't there a NoAI tag in commands?

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i’m pretty that’s only in java

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In java yes in bedrock I don't think so mate

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/summon entity ~ ~ ~ NoAI

Wait lemme check

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Nope

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yeah.

Right.

they really gotta get commands in parity lol but it isn't the top in the priority anyway.

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pretty sure when you put the enderman in a cobweb then he can't teleport

combine this with slowness and there you go stationary enderman

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Anyone have issues enabling PBR? I can enable RTX in regular Bedrock edition but in Minecraft Preview I keep getting the error: resourcePack.incompatiable.graphics.pbr

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You’re on pc right?

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Yes

I tried deleting and re-installing the preview version a few times

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Check if Minecraft is running in DX12

If it is then it should say D3D12 at the top

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hmm it seems to be running DX11

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What GPU do you have?

Because there’s an issue with Intel iGPUs where Minecraft runs in DX11 even though the GPU supports DX12

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Ah! My GPU is Intel(R) UHD Graphics 630 and It's NVIDIA RTX 2060

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i think its running on dx11 for a reason bc i have lower fps on dx12

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You can force mc to run with dx12 by using this https://github.com/ddf8196/BetterRenderDragon

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Minecraft is using his iGPU instead of his external GPU

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You have to make Minecraft use High Performance in the Windows settings

#off-topic message

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thanks! That did the trick.

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No problem ^-^

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emissivity works great! Not sure about metalness though (like reflective surfaces etc), seems to be something they are still working on.

correction, it does seem to work! I'm just looking at it a bit wrong

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Hey so, how do you think Mojang will handle miscellaneous stuff like particles?

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emissive particles my beloved

[inland meteor]

yes

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i just had a great idea thank you

also one thing im noticing is that when you have a ton of glass it looks like trash

like nausatingly blurred

i had to look away

[inland meteor]

Oh that? That's mipmapping

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? that wasnt the example I was using, that was me showcasing it

[inland meteor]

Oh sorry, I was answering this

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ah

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fiaxable?

[inland meteor]

Yeah, just set the mipmap levels in the terrain texture json to 0

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also froglights and shroomlights give off no light for whatever reason

[inland meteor]

Looks like it does

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which is odd

it gives off very little light

[inland meteor]

That's how all full block light sources are atm

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:(

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My panorama here is more proof deferred rendering uses Lumen. Daylight cycle is false, same time of day, same player position. Light will be darker when you directly look at the source, but looking away will not affect light brightness.

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is it possible that rtx uses lumen

minecraft just copy pasted lumen from rtx to shaders :/

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RTX uses the heavy Lumen. Deferred uses a lighter version of lunen

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so mojang just copy pasted lumen from rtx and bata bing bata boom shaders

lol

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also thanks you poggy for telling me that entity pbr exist

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you just made the whole mob glow

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Cuz it's a glowy boi

I also made Jeb sheep glow

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is that the texture set again?

i properly need to learn texture set

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https://twitter.com/XxPoggyisLitxX/status/1688155433960198144?s=19

XxPoggyisLitxX (@XxPoggyisLitxX)

Someone had to make Jeb's hair more amazing! This shader is coming together nicely by the way😉. Note: This won't be part of my Shader. This is just a showcase. Thanks to @xKingDarkYT for helping out!

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nah you gotta light the surroundings first you did the sheep face dirty💀

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Finally! After many restarts i got BetterRD to launch my game using dx12!

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after that you dont need to use the bat file

you can just launch normal preview and it will use dx12

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Due to https://bugs.mojang.com/browse/MCPE-166351, if you use an intel integrated GPU, Minecraft will not use Directx12, please use https://github.com/ddf8196/BetterRenderDragon/releases to force Minecraft to use Directx12

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it just intel igpu i thought it was vram

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If you can find other bug reports that would be great

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all i have is lighting bug reports

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https://bugs.mojang.com/browse/MCPE-173938

should i also light the while lines

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galaxy ninja staring at me

[humble oxide]

I might try something again.

[limpid rune]

That's auto exposure, and you can probably disable it by editing average_luminance.json file in renderer folder

[humble oxide]

I tried but I need admin perms for some reason, and when I do it denies:/

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you can you need to use iobit unlocker

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Welp

Alright

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also copy the file you need to edit to the desktop

back up the og file

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Not data driven yet?

[limpid rune]

Nope

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after you edit the file right click and click show more option

then you will have this

warden is done

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then unlock and copy to the render folder

also if you have the old file or og file you need to delete that

if you dont delete and you will just be replacing it and wont be successful

he look like a kid in super hero costume 💀

caught sun on body

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exp orb we up

[humble oxide]

No one has tried what I am gonna try

Might not work, but might try

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oppenhimer in minecraft💀

what are you doing?

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I'll reveal when it works or fails

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this look like washing machine on steroids

[humble oxide]

ok you can't make particles glow, reflective or rough..

had to try it

[ripe jetty]

Are the colors of lights hardcoded? The docs never mentioned a way to change them.

[limpid rune]

There's a vanilla_lights file in renderer folder that lets you change them, however it's not currently possible to do via resource packs

[ripe jetty]

That's unfortunate. I hope they add a way to add/modify lights.

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bro is realizing the mistakes

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no work

still need admin perms

windows 10 pro btw

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wait

you can access the renderr folder right

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yes

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check the dms mate

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Did

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late but you mean it did work

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I helped him, he was doing it wrong lol

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ok

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Hey guys I just wanna clarify ,is the defered settings is only avail on phones with Snapdragon right?

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The deferred renderer only works on Adreno GPUs I think

Mali GPUs crash the game

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Aderno?

Wait

[humble oxide]

Adreno is the newer mobile GPUs from what I've gathered

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Adreno

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Ohhh

[wind pulsar]

no?

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So if I had an old Snapdragon phone I could still play

[wind pulsar]

nevermind it kinda is.

mali-gpu exists in 2005 and adreno exists in 2008

[cold geode]

i have reached home.

:D

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has anyone managed to make RTX style mirrors yet with the new pbr features yet 🤔

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no

[humble oxide]

Not possible

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I guess metalness can only get you so far xD

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there is entity pbr

[limpid rune]

Currently the only things reflected are light sources like point lights and sun/moon. Metalness and roughness affect intensity and "size" of those reflections

[inland meteor]

For mirrors to be a reality, Mojang needs to implement a form Indirect lighting for specular reflections

think SSR and cubemaps and planar reflections

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would it hit performance

[inland meteor]

Yes. But depends on how well they cheat it

out of the three I highlighted, planar reflections are the least practical here

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if you were get the ssr from a game which game would you get

[inland meteor]

I don't play enough of other games. I just know how the technique works 😅

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oh okay they gotta add some good upscalers my fps is horrendous

[ebon hound]

What do you mean by lumen? Are you referencing the unit or something else, cause it seems you just mean that the game is making use of auto exposure

[humble oxide]

Yes

That

[humble oxide]

btw I wanna disable that to take cool panorama pics

[inland meteor]

Play around with this file in the renderer folder

That handles auto exposure

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i need someone to confirm a bug

there is upscaling bug

if you disable upscaling when you are in a world and then quit the world

then exit the game and launch the game then entered the world

the upscaling is enabled even tho toggle is disabeled

you will know this because the ghosting affect happens eventho toggle is disabled

[humble oxide]

i did a few times

[inland meteor]

Could also play around with tonemapping

Like, disable auto exposure and adjust tonemapping

[vestal scarab]

I have a question actually..

is fullbright now possible with the new "shaders"

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what do you mean by full bright

[vestal scarab]

like no darkness

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not yet

[vestal scarab]

or gamma 100 in java before it got fixed

[pliant crag]

AHHHHH

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there are some things we need to access

[twilit egret]

both are old

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I have a theory on why only snapdragon GPUs work

Because they only had snapdragon to test out the shaders

[wind pulsar]

Adernos are easy to develop for.

Mali are sort of difficult.

that's also why Adernos got most support from devs and most games were optimized for it.

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Also adreno GPU are said to originated from amd

[humble oxide]

Adreno performs real well

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We have no info on mali and other GPUs yet but adreno looks good

[humble oxide]

Mali sounds new

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Also I have adreno and it has opengl es 3 but it only use 1.0

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Mali has been there it just that people that make arm CPUs tend to make their own Gpu

Only mediatek seems to use mali gpu

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I chill with 8 cpu cors in my phone 💀

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I think it has to do with android 9 as I use 8

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my eyes

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Me too

Adreno 506

[wind pulsar]

Mali was really old, and still difficult to work with.

[humble oxide]

I got adreno 665

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Nice

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Kinda mid

[wind pulsar]

what was that based on

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This

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Also mali is made by arm and now reserved for mid range as new imortalis GPU is for flagship

[wind pulsar]

the soc?

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Better than me

He meant cpu

[wind pulsar]

well in general for mobile devices, that's soc.

it's a mix between cpu and gpu.

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Yes

Mine is snapdragon 625

I think I should force install android 9

[wind pulsar]

it's not about android though

snapdragon 625 was too old for that.

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No it has opengl es 3

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people can run deferred on android 8 though, and also wasn't opengl es 3 a SOC thing?

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Mojang said requirements are open gl es 3 and android 9

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Yes it is

[wind pulsar]

shouldn't be the problem if you can play minecraft on Android 8

though yeah android 8 below are missing split-apks or some android 10+ api things

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Yeah I just googled it and soc was released on 2016
That's old 😂

[wind pulsar]

the score are 100k, that is like.

really low-end.

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Also poggy said adreno 665 he meant snapdragon 665
There's no such thing as adreno 665

The GPU on snapdragon 665 is adreno 610

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💀

[wind pulsar]

you would need roughly 285k score and above to run deferred about 15fps with 3 deferred render distance though

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For 15 fps is crazy my phone about to blow up my hands

[wind pulsar]

most modern low-end devices has that score

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I need to buy a new phone

Mine is mi 5x

[wind pulsar]

devices with snapdragon is expensive nowadays

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It doesn't even have a global firmware

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Old flagships are gold

Except for updates

When shaders come out on iOS it's gonna be really optimized

[wind pulsar]

my theory about android requirements for deferred

Minimum:

• Android 9+
• Least must have 250k+ score
• 720p might give reasonable performance
• Game optimization/tuner may be needed for to low resolution
• Adrenos only for this beta/preview because mali-gpu does not work

Recommend:

• uh just em. get flagship that is not 2018.

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Recommend just instantly works

I hope they implement a good upscaler for phones

[wind pulsar]

Samsung S9 or 10 should do

unless you somehow got exnyos on it

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S7 about to be fire literally

🔥🔥

[wind pulsar]

Note 7 is literally gonna be c4

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Lol

[wind pulsar]

that's actually explodes.

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Yes

[wind pulsar]

S7 is fine though. it's just note 7.

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I would like to buy it

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Android 12+ sort of has one.

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What is it?

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well it's called uh game mode or something. you can tune your stuff on stock android or pixel devices

if you can't, there's ADB commands for it

and that what I did

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Oh very interesting

Is it in dev mode

[wind pulsar]

Other OEMS like samsung probably implemented it better even before android 10

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Probably

[wind pulsar]

well it's a feature for stock android and pixel devices, no dev mode. though if you can't use it or can't find it, ADB commands is there.

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The only thing that Samsung can't do better is exynos

[wind pulsar]

let's bring that to #off-topic I suppose

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Ok

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does every one has that or is it my RPs?

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https://bugs.mojang.com/browse/MCPE-174082

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Delete the ui folder

You copied some files from another pack didn't you

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nope

I don't even have the deferred preview on

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What

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I'm just playing ol' regular RTX

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Which pack are you using

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DefinedPBR

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That's why

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oh yeah it messes with the settings UI

VSync toggle right?

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Defined pbr hasn't been updated for preview yet

So you can just delete everything in ui folder except debug screen.json

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Yep

[fiery jackal]

Imma send this to someone at 3am

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you’re evil

[fiery jackal]

This is how i release my pent up anger from my bullies 💀💀💀💀

Jk jk

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hmm

[inland meteor]

I have just made a realization. Inside the renderer folder is a file called platform_configuration.json. In it is a config for each platform Minecraft is available on.

I see PS4 but not PS5, which makes sense since there isn't really a "PS5 version" of Minecraft.

Xbox is different. There are configs for both Xbox One AND Series S|X.

[graceful tulip]

It would make sense to finally have a Series S|X version with these new render dragon features

Perhaps that would coincide with a Marketplace launch of graphics packs for those consoles to download

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in order for xbox to have a Series S|X version logo it is gotta be optimized

the question is, is mojang going to do that

[graceful tulip]

might be their long term plan but Kayla has said render dragon features are still very early in dev so I don’t think anytime too soon

anyways good because we know how announcing graphics upgrades has gone in the past for mojang lol, especially for console

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yep also xbox and ps5 has been out for 3 years now they ain't optimizing so:/

the closest we saw to the xbox optimized version was the ray tracing leak

[graceful tulip]

I wonder how did that even work I thought you needed an RTX pack for ray tracing to work

same with the deferred renderer now

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it did you just need to play online with a friend on pc that has rtx pack enabled

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oh right

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rtx coming to the phones as phone manufacturers introduce ray tracing to phone chipsets(it's not)

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ayo i have an idea

i want to install the preview into wsa

success

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nooo

[twilit egret]

great idea

3 bedrock editions

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fps at 60

[wind pulsar]

me when android emulator

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is there any way to make the beam glow?

when dragon get healed by crystals

[wind pulsar]

wednesday tomorrow

or what I would like to call Thursday

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nah divorce wednesday goes hard

ngl

so what preview dropping tomorrow

?

[humble oxide]

Finally got MC to install on my phone. Time to check performance

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hope it won't turn into a stove

[humble oxide]

5 FPS

Meanwhile I play fortnite mobile at 90FPS

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damn

gpu thingy is snapdragon 665 right

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excited for the optimizations that are about to come

||and hopefully custom shader support||

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poggy

[wind pulsar]

probably 855.

you can't even run fortnite mobile with 665 anymore.

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true

[wind pulsar]

not really playable but

epic game straight up cut you off so you can't play fortnite mobile even launching the game

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playable is a stretch

[wind pulsar]

I actually bought my budget phone to play fortnite mobile but eh, they replaced fortnite unreal 5 after I bought so. well, can't even play it

it went from supported to unsupported real quick

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damn that's rough

why aren't they working?

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Time to mess with shaders

[humble oxide]

You'll have fun!

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Oh no Im not here to have fun, im here to make cursed things

[humble oxide]

Have you seen my blind shader?

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Probably? Idk

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just make it dont show it

[humble oxide]

Worse than light mode

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i should sent it to my epiliptic friend

[wind pulsar]

me when flashbang'd my face

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Nice

Anyone here mess with pbr though for entities? Is it tge same process/files as blocks?

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yes but if you messes up you mess up

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Thats to be expected

Do heightmaps work on entities?

[humble oxide]

You saw my twitter

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Maybe? Ive liked many tweets about shaders

[humble oxide]

You liked a few of mine

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should work but not tried it

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RGB sheep

Won't be part of my pack

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you still gotta make fun packs but i won't forget you did the sheep face dirty

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I can utilize subpacks I just realized

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yes

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Should make it easier to test different concepts without making a new manifest for each one. Ik i can use git branches but that wont help me compare

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i hope they can allow us to make like texture set list

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Wdym

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right now we have to make a new texture set.json for every mob

i just want it to be in one big file

i dont think height maps are working for entity

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Oh thats what you mean

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https://tenor.com/view/tiny-jens-jeb-minecraft-tiny-agnes-nooo-gif-23685860

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does it work for you

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Havent tried out yet

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if you tried it out pls let me know

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How is it that the min renderdist is 8 chunks when i turn on defferred preview

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are you on smartphone

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Nope, laptop. I should have clarified that my complaint is in normal graphics my min is 5 chunks, logic would dictate the min renderdist would be lowered due to higher power needed

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thats the limitation in deferred

i can only go 8 ,12 ,16,24

cannot go 9

the numbers in between

[wind pulsar]

uh mine has 3 deferred render distance minimum.

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you are on phone?

[wind pulsar]

yesn't

yeah I saw the value after my game crashes

[graceful goblet]

What i mean is how is it that normal graphics can go lower renderdist than deferred graphics?

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i dont know mate i think they just copy some code from rtx

phones are the exception

[wind pulsar]

by that I mean, I can see the value of what deferred render distance are. but at the same time I'm on a phone with mali-gpu and can't use deferred.

[bold badge]

very confusing

[wind pulsar]

the power of dumping json-ui

[bold badge]

oh i was like howw?

[wind pulsar]

you can unhidden stuff soo yeaaaa

I think I'm about to be their watchlist

[bold badge]

watch them back

[graceful goblet]

Oh, you can make fullbright?

[humble oxide]

Someone in my Twitter comments called a PC gpu a 3d chip

Under my shader on android tweet

Mojang just need to optimize for mobile

[graceful goblet]

😂

[scarlet mauve]

Works as full bright for me

[severe finch]

I'm crying of jealousy

[bold badge]

why

[severe finch]

I CAN'T PLAY MINECRAFT WITH SHADERS(IF ITS RELEASED NEXT YEAR)

[bold badge]

why

[wind pulsar]

?

[graceful goblet]

Why?

[wind pulsar]

don't have beta/preview?

[severe finch]

I CAN'T BUY A PC OR LAPTOP TILL THEN

[wind pulsar]

there's mobile version

[severe finch]

Yes but it crashes in my phone

I don't have a Snapdragon phone

[wind pulsar]

wait for another beta/preview releases in tomorrow

perhaps they might fix it

just be patient

[severe finch]

THEY RELEASING TOMORROW?

How do you guys know these things?

[wind pulsar]

wasn't beta/preview releases every Wednesday?

[bold badge]

we are wizards

[severe finch]

Ohhhh I just learned that

[severe finch]

Damn I want to be a wizard too

[cold solar]

Sometimes Wednesday sometimes Thursday, sometimes never!

[wind pulsar]

yeah, well. we'll see what can they offer tomorrow

if they don't, I guess you'll have to wait another wednesday

[severe finch]

I can't wait till they add custom death messages

[bold badge]

you must wait for the council approval

[severe finch]

Okay lol

[bold badge]

after talking with the councill you will now be ranked as fire wizard

[bold badge]

deep dark city pic look cursed

[coarse scaffold]

Yay!

[graceful goblet]

How do you use texture set for entities

Getting minecraft:texture_set not valid here for entities

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{
    "format_version": "1.16.100",
    "minecraft:texture_set": {
      "color": "cave_spider",
      "metalness_emissive_roughness": "cave_spider_mer"
    }
  }

[graceful goblet]

Yeah thatd what im doing

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what is the name of the texture_set file

[graceful goblet]

Entity name.texture_set.json

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what seems to be the problem

[graceful goblet]

Content log/crash

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try this

put this in textures/entity/spider

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if it crash you may have problems with your device

[graceful goblet]

🤔 it works with blocks but the moment i edit entities it crashes

[bold badge]

try the spider that i gave

[graceful goblet]

Yeah works now, must be some cache issues or mc being mc

[cold geode]

Back home again :D

[bold badge]

only spider works or does other entities work

[bold badge]

nice

[graceful goblet]

Entities now all work

[cold geode]

So what stuff has been going on?

Just checked twitter and came back

[bold badge]

not all entities but most of them

[coarse scaffold]

interesting

[wintry pecan]

I’m having trouble getting the warden to work

it’s all black except the heart

[bold badge]

which part of the warden

[cold geode]

Someone should put a tutorial for making shaders lol

[coarse scaffold]

Nah

it will become outdated very quickly

[cold geode]

ik the docs page is enough though

[bold badge]

can you show me the _mer.png for warden

[cold geode]

yeah Ik that though. But it would give the idea on where to start and how to them make them.

[bold badge]

nah even the microsoft documentation is lacking

[cold geode]

yeah. I mean like at a very small corners.

[coarse scaffold]

👀 time to start making our own documentation???

[graceful goblet]

Nah

Wait for 1.20.40

[coarse scaffold]

:<

[bold badge]

"minecraft fandom wiki flashbacks"

[cold geode]

maybe i could make one.

I have the capacity of making videos but I'm just not able to because of the amount of time i get lol

can't even do my own programming stuff in this gap of time i get.

[bold badge]

you should not make about in this time frame

this is very early

[cold geode]

Yeah. True though.

I mean i just said i could make one but it dosen't really mean i will make one lol

[bold badge]

are we skiping to the 1.20.40 or do you mean shaders are coming in 1.20.30 stable?

[cold geode]

No

This will be a beta-only thing for now.

[wintry pecan]

not sure if I did it wrong

[bold badge]

check the dm

[graceful goblet]

Neither, I mean by the time 1.20.40 is stable shaders should be more fleshed out

[bold badge]

very wrong

[cold geode]

Get me docs page. I think it's in the pins.

Might read it by the time my food order comes.

[bold badge]

this very little

i needed to go to nvidia but come on microsoft this is your own game

also it should be in this form metal - emissive - rough

also emissive and metallic is the same color in the documentation which effed me up

[bold badge]

if it's pbr read the nvidia page

[ivory coyote]

this current shader feature is still not optimized right? So this will be playable soon in low end devices?

[wind pulsar]

there's is no such a thing that it'll be playable on low-end devices without limiting the graphic to very minimum.

[pliant crag]

For sure not stable in 1.20.30. This is a technical preview on 3 of the platforms. Lots more work to do!

[tardy seal]

Sorry, I don't understand. What is the issue with our docs?

[bold badge]

these are the same it should not be the same

also it would be nice have metallic first because M_E_R

[humble oxide]

I has no issues with these docs

The images makes it easy

[bold badge]

your brain> my brain

i am a text kind of guy

[scarlet mauve]

You can submit issues to the github for the docs

[humble oxide]

Green=emissivity
Blue=roughness
Red-ish=reflectiveness

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M = metalic = R = Red

[humble oxide]

I say reflection

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E = emissive = G = green

R = roughness = b = blue

[bold badge]

same

but as we are going with mer with is equal to m=metalic e= emissive r=roughness

[bold badge]

in the metallic one it should be Uncheck the green and blue channels so that red is the only one with a checkbox

[limpid rune]

Hey @tardy seal. I was messing with shader code and found a fix to the shadows bug https://bugs.mojang.com/browse/MCPE-173922. But I'm not sure if bug tracker is an appropriate place to post that or there's some other place / person to whom I can direct that information.

[humble oxide]

cozy 10FPS

[graceful goblet]

Testing

Ebic image no upload

@tardy seal Saw the little tweet thingy you, poggy, and dark had on twitter regarding waves. API exposed should be noise intensity between 0-1 for wave intensity for water if possible

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Water Waves?

[graceful goblet]

Currently all we can do is set thr roughness or heightmap for water and cant mimic waves

[bold badge]

We are just faking water Waves

Would be nice if we have wavy water from better rtx

[inland meteor]

👀

[humble oxide]

nice embed

https://twitter.com/XxPoggyisLitxX/status/1688917016965763072

XxPoggyisLitxX (@XxPoggyisLitxX)

So @xKingDarkYT and I tried to mess with the water again. We tried several stuff, but we feel water without a heightmap looks better. Let us know what you think. (The water with no heightmap is smooth)

Twitter · Aug 8, 2023, 2:16 PM

[humble oxide]

above

[bold badge]

Water with height map looks cursed and cool at the same time

[storm mural]

kinda reminds me of lego water

[bold badge]

Yeah you are right 😂

[celest wave]

The water without heightmap seems way too smooth

If the transparency could be more that would be better imo

[bold badge]

I think you can do that in biome client file

[inland meteor]

Realistically normal maps would be better for this.

Infact, Minecraft uses one for RTX 🤔

[tardy seal]

Yeah I think normal maps are what I would gravitate to myself. But always worth asking what you all think 🙂

[crude glen]

extra maps

[bold badge]

Wave maps

[humble oxide]

I'm happy with whatever, as long as I am able to make my foliage wavy and have my water wavy :)

[graceful goblet]

I jist want to mimic wind

[bold badge]

Put a noise map and connect it to texture set

[inland meteor]

Since we're on the topic of waves, maybe we can make a simple solution for this. It's obvious we want to be able to make waving water and foliage yes? Well we should have the ability to define waviness per texture, defining speed, frequency and amplitude.

And off topic of that, colored transparent shadows would be nice too.

I even know how to implement it

And that can potentially even be used in combination with caustics

[inland meteor]

Actually on second thought, perhaps it's best if we only had these variables available from global.json. I can't think of a single case where we'd use waviness outside of leaves and water.

[bold badge]

Everything thing except wave frequency and water transparency should be defined in global.json wave frequency and water transparency should be sliders in game

[inland meteor]

water transparency? Isn't that defined by the texture used and the biome water color?

[bold badge]

You are right I effed up

Then it just wave frequency

[inland meteor]

Here's water with a normal map (it's not animated)

If the normal matched up with the water texture then it would like RTX

[brave birch]

I think it would be nice to define waviness per texture so that custom foliage blocks could also be wavy

[inland meteor]

true I forgot about custom blocks

[brave birch]

unless you could give a foliage block a tag or something to make it have the same waviness as other leaves, and then it would be controlled with the global file

[coarse scaffold]

Oooo

[inland meteor]

Anyone got water normals for RTX?

xD

[coarse scaffold]

Nope

[inland meteor]

Man do I have to generate everything around here? 😤

[coarse scaffold]

Maybe :D

[inland meteor]

Something they should definitely do though is apply the fresnel effect to transparent objects

so that they become more opaque the sharper the viewing angle is.

[coarse scaffold]

Yes!

[inland meteor]

But now that I mention it, there is a lot to do for transparent objects.

• coloured shadows
• fresnel
• refraction
• tinted background

[spring cipher]

Colored light/shadows is a big want

[inland meteor]

I know 🥲

But it's possible in a rasterized pipeline

[coarse scaffold]

yay!

[inland meteor]

this is where I learnt how
https://wickedengine.net/2018/01/18/easy-transparent-shadow-maps/

I'm not telling Mojang to copy code, but at least see how this goes

There's isn't any code to copy anyway 😉

[spring cipher]

4400 messages- wow

[coarse scaffold]

I can't wait to see how the deferred renderer would look like in 2 months from now

[inland meteor]

That's Minecraft Live 👀

[spring cipher]

oh shoot

[coarse scaffold]

Oh that's right

[spring cipher]

yeah they will be trying to wrap this up by then to showcase it

[coarse scaffold]

I tweeted about it and then completely forgot

👀 I wonder if they're gonna talk about Editor mode

[inland meteor]

i'm sure they have more work to do for deferred, even after Minecraft Live

[spring cipher]

editor mode hype is going down 📉

[coarse scaffold]

:<

[spring cipher]

They will probably say at least something during Live

[inland meteor]

I haven't done much with the API yet

[coarse scaffold]

But that's not gonna stop me from working on my editor extensions

[inland meteor]

I'm so lazy 😭

[coarse scaffold]

:(

[inland meteor]

I'd make a great Mojang dev

[spring cipher]

b humbl

[fierce hornet]

bee

[inland meteor]

@tardy seal Maybe you could pass this over to the graphics programmers and give them a few ideas? 👉 👈

[coarse scaffold]

Yes please

[inland meteor]

This article wasn't easy to find

[coarse scaffold]

I have the perfect emoji for that

[inland meteor]

Lol

[coarse scaffold]

I have some weird emojis in my favorites lol

[inland meteor]

Cheaply converting the water texture to a normal map gave me this.

[severe wadi]

Lego!

[inland meteor]

I think I'm happy with this. Just subtle enough for calm bodies of water like Minecraft's

Here's the texture set along with the albedo and normal maps

Just don't try it with flowing water. That's a different texture all together 😅

And if you're curious, this is the website I used to convert the water map texture
https://cpetry.github.io/NormalMap-Online/

[coarse scaffold]

that looks interesting tbh

[bold badge]

working

thanks bro

[coarse scaffold]

it looks a bit weird

[prime gulch]

Is it possible to now change the end sky?

[bold badge]

it may be conflicting with other water files

yo it works now

[severe wadi]

Looking at that image makes me realize that the chestplate model feels wrong

the armor with the deffered looks good btw

[coarse scaffold]

I just got an idea

Thank you kai

[bold badge]

it looks pregnant now that you mention it

[severe wadi]

Always

[coarse scaffold]

pfft

[bold badge]

how you instant reply 💀

[coarse scaffold]

🤷‍♂️ lol

[bold badge]

ayo bro

can we put texture set for end sky

it does not work

[bold badge]

the chest is moving when upscaling is enabled

[coarse scaffold]

iirc same thing happens with boats

[bold badge]

may be tile entity have problems with upscaling

is there a bug report for this

[coarse scaffold]

not sure but you can search

[inland meteor]

If you sneak or hover in third person your character starts to jitter too

[bold badge]

can't seem to find one

i will make it

https://bugs.mojang.com/browse/MCPE-174112

[bold badge]

is there any way to tweak nether

it is incredibily black

[ripe jetty]

I do hope they add a way to tone down the bloom effect. It's so overkill.

[humble oxide]

but that don't work currently right?

[bold badge]

it works

[humble oxide]

wait

but when I tried

my water was invis

[bold badge]

fog file

it is clashing with the fog file

[humble oxide]

fog file?

[bold badge]

the biome client list .json and fog folder

[humble oxide]

oh that

deffs not gonna make another tweet

[bold badge]

deff not 🗿

[bold badge]

it looks like a meteorite is about to hit you

[humble oxide]

I made my lantern glow blue

wrong reply

discord

[bold badge]

show screen shot

you mean sea lantern?

[humble oxide]

nope

[bold badge]

which lantern?

[bold badge]

bruh i was so excited

you did something in the vanilla light didn't you?

[humble oxide]

i did a thing with game files

[bold badge]

you mean this

beautiful shot

[bold badge]

cursed power vr

[prisma knot]

1.16.100 = 1.18.0 ?

[wind pulsar]

?

[bold badge]

what's that supposed to mean?

[bold badge]

is there any more documentation for atmospherics .json in lighting folder

it looks like a chunk error from rtx even tho there is no error

[inland meteor]

Is that a cloud?

[bold badge]

correct

[inland meteor]

I think clouds should have higher shadow opacity

[bold badge]

yes

also bro

do you know what up with the numbers in the atmospheric file

[inland meteor]

what about them?

[bold badge]

what are those

[inland meteor]

Are all those numbers under mie?

[bold badge]

yes

[inland meteor]

or does it say min

[bold badge]

sorry it says max

[inland meteor]

Those are keyframes. They let you animate the values throughout the time of day

Most of the properties here can be animated

[bold badge]

so 0.0 is a key frame

[inland meteor]

Yeah

And according to the docs, that refers to midnight

Playing around with it would be a good idea

[bold badge]

yeah i should

thanks for the info

[bold badge]

i am going to try adding fsr

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it did not work as it was using taa

[humble oxide]

Add a normal map

[tidal pebble]

I should, but I'm lazy 🥹

[humble oxide]

It's easy

Someone sent a link here which allows you to convert the water textures to a normal map

[tidal pebble]

I know, but making it animate nicely and tile sounds hard

[humble oxide]

It works off the file you give it

Uhh so

[tidal pebble]

I'll try to find it

was it on this channel?

[humble oxide]

Yes

[tidal pebble]

found it

[prisma knot]

shader on "ps5" console?

[scarlet mauve]

Deferred Technical Preview only works on Xbox, Android and Windows 10, see: http://aka.ms/deferredPreview

[storm mural]

for now...

[scarlet mauve]

Yes

[humble oxide]

been cooking

[prisma knot]

Date ?

[scarlet mauve]

Sure, when do you have time? /s

[bold badge]

yes! Have you found a solution yet?

[lusty star]

This is probably equivalent to what Riddick sees 🤣

[rapid wing]

Everyone here is talking about the shaders, when in reality, you should be talking about the GODDAMN REMOVAL OF MINECRAFTITEMTYPES

That is going to break so many addons out there!!!!!

[inland meteor]

What do you use it for?

[rapid wing]

Probably for making some kind of shop or whatever?

I don't know. All I know is that a hell of a ton of addons out there, such as the morph bracelet addon, are going to break completely with this new removal.

[storm mural]

nah shaders cooler i can't lie i'd rather talk about them

[inland meteor]

Afaik, the data with the item IDs is now separate in vanilla-data module. get() and getAll() are in ItemTypes now I think.

[rapid wing]

Okay, I literally JUST said not to ping me.

[storm mural]

wot

[inland meteor]

Look at their name

[storm mural]

fair enuf

[graceful helm]

i just noticed alylica and MLGR Useranme is compeletly oppsite lmao

[storm mural]

lol

[rapid wing]

Actually, now that I think about it, the removal of every single "Minecraft[Something]Types" is going to heavily affect script addons, as now we don't have any documentation of what entities are in the index. I guess it's more "more support", as you can use custom entities and items now.

[graceful goblet]

Is there a replacement?

[humble oxide]

I don't think that's a problem since you no longer need to import Minecraft[Sonething]Types. The new stuff works the same so idk what's the issue.

[rapid wing]

Okay........

[humble oxide]

I might be wrong here

[rapid wing]

Why do people NEVER turn off the ping option when replying?

[humble oxide]

Do you get mad at a ping?

[graceful goblet]

Only thing Ive seen people complain is the removal of itemstack auxval

[humble oxide]

[rapid wing]

Not only do I hate seeing the yellow highlights of others' messages, but I'm also in the middle of another conversation in a seperate server, so I gotta go.

[storm mural]

kinda just feels like the overreaction of the century but you do you i gues

[humble oxide]

I casually chill with 2k pings.

[storm mural]

based

[coarse scaffold]

just bundle the @minecraft/vanilla-data module into one file and start using that

[rapid wing]

Okay, how many more times do I have to tell people not to ping me??

[humble oxide]

Dude, it's just a ping. It doesn't determine your fate.

[coarse scaffold]

it’s not like you’re gonna die or anything if you get pinged

[bright arch]

+9k pings

[coarse scaffold]

0 ^-^

[humble oxide]

🤝