Server Form without reload anim

[shy parcel]

I have seen people do this.

@azure trail Longing

[azure trail]

@shy parcel you should be able to remove the anims from the screen itself. I haven't messed with the server form yet, but if you find the screen element (search base_screen, try putting "$screen_animations": []

@shy parcel here's what the base_screen anims look like:

"$screen_animations|default": [
      "@common.screen_exit_animation_push_offset",
      "@common.screen_exit_animation_pop_offset",
      "@common.screen_entrance_animation_push_offset",
      "@common.screen_entrance_animation_pop_offset",
      "@common.screen_exit_animation_push_fade",
      "@common.screen_exit_animation_pop_fade",
      "@common.screen_entrance_animation_push_fade",
      "@common.screen_entrance_animation_pop_fade"
    ],
    "$background_animations|default": [
      "@common.screen_exit_animation_push_alpha",
      "@common.screen_exit_animation_pop_alpha",
      "@common.screen_entrance_animation_push_alpha",
      "@common.screen_entrance_animation_pop_alpha"
    ],

So you can add/remove any you want

[shy parcel]

I had tested this before by modifying it directly in base_screen and I swear I still had annoying lag, thx you!

[shy parcel]

Im sad that you didnt say you missed me, I guess you dont remember, there are many in line, right?

[shy parcel]

When I open the menu, the life/hunger/inventory disappears, I tested removing one by one and the animation continues, I wanted the background to continue after opening the menu, is there a way?

[azure trail]

I do remember lol

[azure trail]

There should be a screen property/variable for that. To render the screen below (i.e. hud screen). I would check the ui_common screen. I forgot what the property is called

[shy parcel]

I saw your message earlier, searched for it but didnt find it

[novel iron]

Could you try these codes? It's work for me to remove pop in/up animations from server form ui.

{
    "namespace": "server_form",

    "[email protected]_screen": {
        "$screen_content": "server_form.main_screen_content",
        "$screen_animations": [],

        "button_mappings": [
            {
                "from_button_id": "button.menu_cancel",
                "to_button_id": "button.menu_exit",
                "mapping_type": "global"
            }
        ]
    }
    // ..........
}

[shy parcel]

Look you inventory, he has animation

[shy parcel]

I dont want him to disappear

[novel iron]

you want player can't close the form?

If it is correct, set "button_mappings" to an empty array?

or just like this?

{
    "namespace": "server_form",

    "[email protected]_screen": {
        "$screen_content": "server_form.main_screen_content",
        "force_render_below": true, //set true to render last ui that under the form
        "$screen_animations": [],
        "button_mappings": [
            {
                "from_button_id": "button.menu_cancel",
                "to_button_id": "button.menu_exit",
                "mapping_type": "global"
            }
        ]
    }
}

[shy parcel]

How could I do this?

[shy parcel]

Is this

Thx!

Wait, render all last ui, Other menus for example?

I will test it later, thx you

[novel iron]

{
    "namespace": "server_form",

    "[email protected]_screen": {
        "$screen_content": "server_form.main_screen_content",
        "force_render_below": true, //set true to render last ui that under the form
        "$screen_animations": [],
        "button_mappings": [ // set array of button_mappings to an empty array
            //{
                //"from_button_id": "button.menu_cancel",
                //"to_button_id": "button.menu_exit",
                //"mapping_type": "global"
            //}
        ]
    }
}

[shy parcel]

thx for all!

[devout goblet]

that works, but it still updates a small delay later. Is there a way to update it instantly?

[novel iron]

Not sure that work, but you could add cache_screen under the third_party_server_screen control to test your result.

{
    "namespace": "server_form",

    "[email protected]_screen": {
        "$screen_content": "server_form.main_screen_content",
        "force_render_below": true, //set true to render last ui that under the form
        "$screen_animations": [],
        "cache_screen": true,
        "button_mappings": [ // set array of button_mappings to an empty array
            //{
                //"from_button_id": "button.menu_cancel",
                //"to_button_id": "button.menu_exit",
                //"mapping_type": "global"
            //}
        ]
    }
}

[devout goblet]

Do you think that would remove the transition delay?

[novel iron]

Do you mean the transition process when the server form is opened?

[devout goblet]

yes, or when a button is clicked to open another form

[novel iron]

I guess this field could helps the player to get a faster response when reopening the UI afterward.

[devout goblet]

just tested, and it's a nope

there is still a 0.5s delay for the animation (which doesn't exist) to play

[novel iron]

When the vanilla UI is opened for the first time, the opening speed is affected by the complexity of the UI controls.
· The more controls a UI screen contains, the slower the creation speed.
Or
· The larger the size of the total image resources a UI screen uses, the slower the creation speed.
In addition, one more question:
The speed conclusion you got in the previous test comes from opening the UI for the first time or opening the UI repeatedly?

[devout goblet]

it's not lag

or amount of buttons

it's a fixed 0.5s for the animation to play

the same happens when closing the form

it lingers for around 0.5s while you have the ability to move, since an animation should be playing

[novel iron]

Is it work?

{
    "namespace": "server_form",

    "[email protected]_screen": {
        "$screen_content": "server_form.main_screen_content",
        "$screen_animations": [],
        "$background_animations": []
    }
}

[devout goblet]

that works! although there is a slight flicker

which I assume is the load time

is there any way to negate this?

I did use "cache_screen": true,

like maybe if I kept the delay for a much shorter time

[novel iron]

I think a slight flicker is inevitable if you must manually close the server-form UI before opening it next time.
Because it is caused by the logic of opening the UI immediately after it is closed.
Then this process is done by your client telling the server to do such an operation. The communication time required for this operation is small, but it will be noticed if your standards are high.
And I think the main purpose of cache_screen is to improve the speed of the client opening this UI next time.

Hope this statement is helpful to you. Right now I don't know how to change it.

[devout goblet]

is it possible to 'hold' the previous ui until the next one is loaded?

[novel iron]

Try it.

{
    "namespace": "server_form",

    "[email protected]_screen": {
        "$screen_content": "server_form.main_screen_content",
        // When set to false, the screen will be rendered even if other screens(ChatScreen, Inventory Screen etc.) cover it.
        "render_only_when_topmost": false
    }
}

[devout goblet]

nah

That doesn't work

good suggestion though!

[worldly osprey]

maybe, disable screen animation in settings

[devout goblet]

Fixed that.

The issue is the loading time now

[devout goblet]

hey, do you know how to create a custom animation? Is is possible to shorten the background animation?

[novel iron]

yeah, but currently I don’t have a pc to test the answer which is true of false . I am taking a vacation now. First, you could find all controls of background animation in ui_common.json. Second, change some of their durations. That’s all.

[tawny gate]

here, I need help on forms

how to make this on world

(scoreboard)

[novel iron]

But don’t change durations of animations in there. You could copy and paste them to the form ui. Then change the durations here, and put the names of controls in background_animation variable.

[novel iron]

Make a horizontal stack panel and only show scoreboard object names and value there.In this example, Trapper is the object name, 9 is the value. Other labels are fixed.

[tawny gate]

Okay..

But what is a Script?

I don't speak English, learn this language.

I speak Russian, and Hebrew.

[novel iron]

I‘m not a English native speaker too. I think you should ask that at script channel.

[shy parcel]

when i click the button my mouse resets, it goes probably to the last button that the form has

when I have to click several times on the same button it ends up going to the end and I click on another, for other platforms like xbox you have to go back to the first button one by one

[shy parcel]

@azure trail can you help me with this?
do I annoy you with the mentions?

[azure trail]

hm I'm not really sure what's causing that since I haven't used forms. Seems like a hardcoded issue if the mouse itself is disappearing between clicks

[shy parcel]

on Xbox, after clicking the last button is selected, which form do you use?

[azure trail]

I'm gonna start using forms but I haven't yet. Just been using NPC screens

[shy parcel]

is there a way to put buttons without limits like server_form?

[shy parcel]

if I were to make a menu like this by the NPC screens, I would have to limit myself to the buttons, is its only defect

[azure trail]

There is but it's kind of scuffed. I would recommend just using forms. I'm not sure what's up with the mouse glitch though

You could disable the mouse for the screen to force them to use buttons

[shy parcel]

it is not the mouse, it happens also by xbox

does not use mouse, uses buttons and automatically goes to the last button

by xbox and mouse or something with "selection"

[shy parcel]

Can you teach me? Please. dialogue without limit button

my npc screen crash with exact 20 index buttons

i love the npc screen but he have this problem with limits

[azure trail]

Removing the limits is just a matter of using the skin buttons. But they can be annoying to work with in multiplayer and they recently limited it so player has to be in creative + operator to use them. I would personally just stick with form. Does the glitch with the mouse/xbox selection happen even with the vanilla forms (no modified UI)?

[shy parcel]

yes

wait

idk if it would be that version 1.20, wonderful....

[shy parcel]

npc screen crash my game even without custom menu, only with 20 buttons

create a npc screen with 20 or 21 buttons, when opening the game closes

[azure trail]

Hmm. Maybe they will fix it in the future then since even the vanilla version is buggy

[azure trail]

Ah, I haven't tested with more than 20

[shy parcel]

before it would work and after trying to open the npc screen, it would close
now it doesnt open at all

but this error is something on the outside

[shy parcel]

max is exactly 20 for me

using "Pocketmine"

before it did not show this error and I could pass the pocketmine limit, but Minecraft crashed

now I cant even see minecraft crash oof

another problem I see in the npc screen is that the text there are limits of digits, now I remembered why I left it

:(

[shy parcel]

tysm for your attention and sorry for anything

❤️

[azure trail]

np! hopefully they can fix the issue with the mouse/button glitching cuz server forms seem much easier to use

[safe bay]

uhm, isnt that second form that shows up after you click e.g. 4th button in previous one? If thats second form, probably default button focus ID is first button and if you would like to select 4th button in this second form, unfortunately its not possible and everything you can do is defining only one button (e.g. first one from the list/grid or close button, whatever)

[devout goblet]

It’s possible to remove though

I’ve done it myself

However, there is a flicker that don’t like

[shy parcel]

Even if the second form is the same?

no matter which one I click, it always goes back to the last button

[shy parcel]

"$focus_enabled|default": false,
"focus_enabled": "$focus_enabled"

the focus problem is this

[shy parcel]

server form

dialogue

[acoustic skiff]

how can I make a command through / ?

[shy parcel]

plugin

[acoustic skiff]

it's a pity(

is it possible to make a form that can be scrolled to the side?

[shy parcel]

maybe try looking around, i never tried

[safe bay]

yes

[safe bay]

and yes

thats not this npc dialogue that isnt made like server form, form will reset everytime you click on something even when next one is literally same

in short, blame the greatest company in world, mojang

[shy parcel]

[burnt briar]

wait how can you change the stuff in the form?

[shy parcel]

?

[burnt briar]

like how are you are updating the form without opening new ones?

[shy parcel]

I am opening

[novel iron]

I don’t see any api for creator to send data to client, and the UI is a part of client. Therefore I expect it’s currently impossible to change form-ui data through other ways except reopening it.

@burnt briar

[shy parcel]

is it possible to walk around with the menu open?

@azure trail "ping me" ;p