Custom Material Help! How do you not render entities behind it? | Bedrock Add-Ons | Page 1

dim girder Apr 7, 2023, 9:06 PM

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Custom Material Help! How do you not render entities behind it?

I am attempting to learn how to go about doing this, I have attempted removing DisableCulling

My current material looks like this.

"hide_entities:entity_alphablend": {
          "-states": [ "DisableCulling"],
          "+states": ["DisableDepthWrite"]
}

Currently it renders entities behind it, how do you disable this, I'd like cull out entities so they don't render behind my model of cube plane.

sick robin Apr 7, 2023, 9:41 PM

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DisableDepthWrite is at fault probably, since you're not writing to the depth buffer and entities that render after aren't aware that they're behind your object

dim girder Apr 8, 2023, 12:06 AM

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Alright, I'll attempt removing that and see if it resolves the issue.

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Same issue.

"hide_entities:entity_alphablend": {
          "-states": [ "DisableCulling", "DisableDepthWrite"]
}

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the barrier entity in the back is still showing.

sick robin Apr 8, 2023, 8:15 AM

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Blending materials are rendered very late, you need a material that can render early. If you inherit from entity_static and add DisableColorWrite, it should render earlier than all other materials

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Then you can render the same geo but with alphablend material, which would have color

dim girder Apr 8, 2023, 11:02 AM

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This is my current material

"hide_entities:entity_static": {
     "-states": [ "DisableCulling", "DisableDepthWrite"],
      "+states": ["DisableColorWrite"]
}

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I think, I am misunderstanding the last part you mentioned.

dim girder Apr 8, 2023, 11:22 AM

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I'm unsure how to do what you described "Then you can render the same geo but with alphablend material"

dim girder Apr 8, 2023, 11:54 AM

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Alright, I now understand what you mean now by rendering on the same geo using a second index in the render controller materials.

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But the issue is still present, here is what I have.

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Materials

    //hide1
    "hide_entities1:entity_static": {
      "+states": [
        "DisableColorWrite"
      ]
    },

    //hide2
    "hide_entities2:entity_alphablend": {
    }

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Render Controller

      "materials": [
        {
          "*": "Material.hide1"
        },
        {
          "*": "Material.hide2"
        }
      ]

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Still rendering the backend.

sick robin Apr 8, 2023, 1:17 PM

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By rendering second time I meant either duplicating cubes in the geo and assigning another material to them or adding a second RC that'd render the same geo but with different material

sick robin Apr 8, 2023, 1:18 PM

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dim girder Render Controller ```json "materials": [ { "*": "Materia...

This setup doesn't render geo twice, it assigns material hide1 to all bones and then re-assigns it to hide2, so you're basically only rendering hide2 once

dim girder Apr 8, 2023, 2:01 PM

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sick robin By rendering second time I meant either duplicating cubes in the geo and assigni...

Alright so duplicate the geo, assign the second material.

sick robin Apr 8, 2023, 2:04 PM

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Yeah, I should've been more clear originally, sorry

dim girder Apr 8, 2023, 2:07 PM

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Like this right or do you mean like in another render controller?

      "materials": [
        {
          "hide1": "Material.hide1"
        },
        {
          "hide2": "Material.hide2"
        }
      ],

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I'm now targeting a bone called "hide1" and "hide2" each having a cube.

sick robin Apr 8, 2023, 2:08 PM

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That should be fine

dim girder Apr 8, 2023, 2:09 PM

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Okay, that hides entities behind it now like I wanted, but now the main model is invisible.

sick robin Apr 8, 2023, 2:12 PM

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Didn't know about the main model. Can you describe in details what you want to achieve again?

dim girder Apr 8, 2023, 2:20 PM

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Alright, to fix the issue I had to move the second cube out of the first one.

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just a little.

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So the rendering order worked it was hiding the texture because it was behind the other material.

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Works, thank you so much! This is such a useful method.

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Been needing this for ages!

sick robin Apr 8, 2023, 2:26 PM

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dim girder Alright, to fix the issue I had to move the second cube out of the first one.

You also should be able to fix that by changing depthFunc on second material to Equal, without moving any cubes

dim girder Apr 8, 2023, 2:27 PM

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Oh didn't think of that.

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Thanks, I'll try that in a few.

dim girder Apr 8, 2023, 2:49 PM

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"Equal" caused Z-Fighting.

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so trying the other few.

sick robin Apr 8, 2023, 3:02 PM

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Strange, it shouldn't. Are the bones exactly and completely the same?

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Position, rotation, scale, everything should match, it should be an exact copy of the bone

dim girder Apr 8, 2023, 3:05 PM

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There was a pivot -0.02 off on the second bone, good catch!

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Yep that worked.

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Shows mobs, but doesn't show its self on the other side of each border face.

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That's perfect!

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Thank you Again Veka!

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Lately you've been a real life saver lol. 😅

tall spindle Apr 8, 2023, 3:08 PM

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very neat

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i’ve always thought materials were like hard coded but i’ve never actually tried to use them so

thorn lark Apr 8, 2023, 3:10 PM

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Afaik you can change and create custom entity and particle materials, ik you can’t change terrain or sky materials tho (I tried ;-;)

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But yeah they’re surprisingly customizable

sick robin Apr 8, 2023, 3:12 PM

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dim girder Shows mobs, but doesn't show its self on the other side of each border face.

Btw, due to how it works it's not guaranteed to render other mobs behind it. It definitely won't render slimes for example. You're lucky to have creepers visible through.

dim girder Apr 8, 2023, 3:13 PM

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sick robin Btw, due to how it works it's not guaranteed to render other mobs behind it. It ...

It's good enough for my needs, I didn't think this effect was even possible to begin with almost ended up scrapping it.

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But creepers rendering all the basic mobs render and as you said slimes don't.

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Sadly materials are limited in that regard that we can't tell them what we want to render, blocks, mobs, etc.

sick robin Apr 8, 2023, 3:14 PM

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Yeah, they're not very flexible when it comes to rendering order

deft hazel Dec 12, 2025, 6:48 AM

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@sick robin Can u help me in dms?

deft hazel Dec 12, 2025, 7:20 AM

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actually

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u might don't want to help in dms

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here

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i'll show u my issue

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basically it flickers

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sick robin Dec 12, 2025, 9:04 AM

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Idk want kind of materials you're using or how it's supposed to look like, but one way to fix it would be to turn off dithering in accessibility settings

deft hazel Dec 12, 2025, 9:05 AM

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sick robin Idk want kind of materials you're using or how it's supposed to look like, but o...

I uh

deft hazel Dec 12, 2025, 9:06 AM

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dim girder Same issue. ```json "hide_entities:entity_alphablend": { "-states": [ ...

Used this

sick robin Dec 12, 2025, 9:10 AM

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So what's the effect that you're trying to achieve?

deft hazel Dec 12, 2025, 9:12 AM

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sick robin So what's the effect that you're trying to achieve?

i wanna hide everything behind invis scope part

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so it would be visible what am i aiming

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btw scope and hiding parts are separate parts

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{
"controller.render.awm_ocular": "c.is_first_person"
},
{
"controller.render.item.fp": "c.is_first_person"
},
{
"controller.render.awm_fp_scope": "c.is_first_person"
}

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OH

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OH OH

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@sick robin U R GOAT THANKS

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disabling dithering heped!!!!

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sheeesh

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U r the goat,bro i love u(not in gay term)

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@gentle spruce r u spying on me or what

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wtf

gentle spruce Dec 12, 2025, 9:17 AM

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what

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i just found that funy

deft hazel Dec 12, 2025, 9:18 AM

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gentle spruce what

no like

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this post was made 4 months ago

gentle spruce Dec 12, 2025, 9:18 AM

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ok

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years ago*

deft hazel Dec 12, 2025, 9:19 AM

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yeah and i see u in everyo post i comment

gentle spruce Dec 12, 2025, 9:19 AM

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i dont

deft hazel Dec 12, 2025, 9:19 AM

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nvm,yeah,year ago

deft hazel Dec 12, 2025, 9:19 AM

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gentle spruce i dont

crazy

gentle spruce Dec 12, 2025, 9:19 AM

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is it a problem if i just see posts

deft hazel Dec 12, 2025, 9:19 AM

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gentle spruce is it a problem if i just see posts

no lol

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btw what do u think of my RP?

gentle spruce Dec 12, 2025, 9:19 AM

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nice

deft hazel Dec 12, 2025, 9:19 AM

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it's fully RP

gentle spruce Dec 12, 2025, 9:19 AM

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smooth aniamtions

deft hazel Dec 12, 2025, 9:19 AM

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not an addon

gentle spruce Dec 12, 2025, 9:19 AM

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wooo

deft hazel Dec 12, 2025, 9:19 AM

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and even has reload

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imma show u

gentle spruce Dec 12, 2025, 9:20 AM

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reload in bow 👀

deft hazel Dec 12, 2025, 9:20 AM

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deft hazel Dec 12, 2025, 9:20 AM

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gentle spruce reload in bow 👀

well reload part is just for cosmetics and to make it even cool

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i'll add sounds later today

gentle spruce Dec 12, 2025, 9:21 AM

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thats crazy

deft hazel Dec 12, 2025, 9:21 AM

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and will finish scope part

deft hazel Dec 12, 2025, 9:21 AM

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gentle spruce thats crazy

YEAH lmao

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it's only rp

gentle spruce Dec 12, 2025, 9:21 AM

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now replace the arrow with bullet

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change arrow model

deft hazel Dec 12, 2025, 9:22 AM

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gentle spruce change arrow model

yeah

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o btw

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it also has inspect trigger

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to inspect i have to sneak for 0.5 seconds

deft hazel Dec 12, 2025, 7:18 PM

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@sick robin

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Can u help me rq

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it broke with vibrant visuals

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i added pbr to make it looking good

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it seems like it doesn't support translucent textures and transparent with vibran visuals

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btw am still using
"hide_entities1:entity_static": {
"+states": [
"DisableColorWrite"
]
},
//hide2
"hide_entities2:entity_alphablend": {
}

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it works without VV

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▶ Play video

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i rlly need it to get fixed

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it will look so good

sick robin Dec 12, 2025, 7:41 PM

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Materials in VV are buggy and don't work as expected. There is probably a way to do it but it would be very difficult to do and quite a complex effect

deft hazel Dec 12, 2025, 7:41 PM

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sick robin Materials in VV are buggy and don't work as expected. There is probably a way to...

but there's way to do it right?

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cuz before this custom material method i used to use 2 alpha blend transparent cubes

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2nd cube is like 1 pixel away

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and it did work with VV

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