1.19.80.20 - Preview

[pseudo slate]

And they'll probably fix it before 1.19.80 release

[runic ember]

i don't think so because BlockSignComponent.getText() returns the text

[solar blaze]

Editable signs?

[karmic narwhal]

It will be possible but not now

but in close future

[karmic narwhal]

Read our changelog #1083407818545172560 🎉

[pseudo slate]

Oh so it works but setText no?

But

It's not client sync

So it does not show the text to you

[solar blaze]

oh just saw, sick!

[karmic narwhal]

It does but not client synced

[pseudo slate]

But maybe is in the sign NBT

[pseudo slate]

YEAHH that's what I mean

They should fix all client sync problems lmao

If you set text and then get it and you get the text that you can't see but you set it

Means is not client sync, is not that it doesn't work

Like setScore problem

[runic ember]

@minecraft/editor-utilities
@minecraft/server-wrapper

[karmic narwhal]

server-wrapper 💀

[hidden iris]

I haven't looked this morning yet, but any chance you can make sure these are put into GitHub? Tomorrow I'm going to go through and catalog and make sure we capture everything on our internal systems. Thank you! ❤️

[runic ember]

No problem!

[short monolith]

thx, that's cool

[storm rose]

Whats the second one for?

[runic ember]

both of them are used for making the tools for Editor Mode

Entity Spawner tool (I know that the audio is a bit broken because i've been messing with the settings of Xbox Gamebar)

[storm rose]

Did you achieve this using a behaviour pack or by modifying the games files?

[runic ember]

Using a behaviour pack

[storm rose]

To modify the user interface aswell?

[hearty hare]

Haha, this was the first thing I made, too.

[runic ember]

lol

But that’s not the first thing i made

[hearty hare]

Oh, nice.

Yeah, I see others.

[storm rose]

Are you checking the script files for documentation on how it works?

[runic ember]

This is the first thing i made

[runic ember]

Script files

[proud haven]

Mine does the same sound bug

[runic ember]

Xbox Gamebar sucks

[proud haven]

Fr

[cunning mesa]

Hey hey don’t diss my recording software

[proud haven]

It don't have good sound and output lags so idk

[cunning mesa]

I’ve never had a problem with it. All the videos I record use it

[runic ember]

Could be because i messed with the settings or because i removed something from the system files or could be a driver issue

[cunning mesa]

I haven’t the foggiest idea

[runic ember]

Managed to fix the audio issue

[proud haven]

HOW

[runic ember]

Messing with the settings

[proud haven]

I never have luck with it

[hidden iris]

Nice work!!

[runic ember]

Thank you ❤️

[hearty hare]

King, were you lazy with names like I was with mine? (There're some broken localizations for a few entities…)

[runic ember]

I was going to make a tool that modifies the sign’s test but found out that setText() was broken

[hearty hare]

I wanna clean mine up… eventually.

[mellow moon]

bruh awesome

[kindred maple]

I tried creating a type definition package for @minecraft/server-editor.
It's a work in progress, but I hope it helps.
https://github.com/Lapis256/unofficial-server-editor

[runic ember]

Yeah

I think i found another bug

Found another bug

But it’s harmless

[runic ember]

Oh cool, i was thinking about making my own type definition but then decided to continue messing around with editor mode

[magic dawn]

Hopefully the devs provide their d.ts for server-editor module within the next preview updates

[rancid light]

editor api can access these

ui controlling

[misty dagger]

So with @server-editor we can access device types?

[rancid light]

i think now we can access full keyboard mouse etc

bcz that file contained references to all keyboard button codes

all a-z 1-0 etc

[runic ember]

Correct but only in the Editor Mode menu

[rancid light]

dark truths

[misty dagger]

What is this

[misty dagger]

Woah!!

[magic dawn]

only in editor mode

[runic ember]

The used modules for making the tools for Editor Mode

[misty dagger]

Ohhh. That kinda sucks

[rancid light]

however i think block highlighter is not good

[misty dagger]

Typings?

[magic dawn]

they've not released them yet

[runic ember]

setText() doesn’t update the signs’s text

[misty dagger]

Isn’t that the whole point

[misty dagger]

Server-wrapper?

[runic ember]

Yeah which means that’s a bug

[runic ember]

Looking through the code i noticed that @minecraft/server-wrapper has almost the same classes as @minecraft/server

[rancid light]

project export is a command

[misty dagger]

Oh, dang

[rancid light]

another cmd

[runic ember]

The /project export command has 3 export types: project, template, world

[hidden iris]

That's one of many reasons we have separate tool mode vs. crosshair - to free up keybindings for extensions

[misty dagger]

So is it in the plan to add key bind support for script api?

Or is this just for editor mode

[rancid light]

i dont think its for normal gameplay type

[hidden iris]

Can't speak for script API, but editor extensions will have keybind customization

[rancid light]

ui controlling may move to normal script api but for controls its highly doubtful

[runic ember]

i made it so when you pressed E it spawns a creeper at your cursor's location

[rancid light]

or may a separate ui and keyboard type library that cant communicate with normal script api but still can be used across all game

[misty dagger]

I’m guessing bedrock editor is becoming a extreme version of world edit. So is there plans for stuff like geometric shape buildings, and block masks where you can specify a list of blocks to be used.

[rancid light]

first of all that block list thing needs to be made better

add icons, allow selecting states etc

[misty dagger]

Also a way to export sections into .mcstructure would be something really cool. With this a way to input .mcstructure into the editor would bring a lot of creativity.

[misty dagger]

Yes

[rancid light]

also drop down selection is weird, idk whats missing in drop down but it doesnt feels good

i mean ui

[runic ember]

yeah ik

[rancid light]

file access in editor mode lol would be far better than anything

[hidden iris]

Lots of plans with brush and blocks - palette, masks, etc.

[runic ember]

This is how it’s supposed to look like

It’s missing that dark spot at the bottom

[misty dagger]

Yes I feel this would be such a simple feature that would open the gates to so many new things. Also making the selection for the editor mode not restricted and being able to export any selection size into a .mcstructure

[rancid light]

imagine importing png or 3d object files and creating a structure using it

blender etc

[misty dagger]

Idk about that

[storm rose]

http requests, web sockets

[rancid light]

ahh dedicated serverr

[storm rose]

yeah my bad

are they only present in bds due to security reasons?

[rancid light]

yes

[runic ember]

People can grab your ip using it

[rancid light]

nope

[storm rose]

maybe the game could warn you that a behaviour pack is using these features

[rancid light]

http requests etc always run on server

[runic ember]

they can

[rancid light]

not on clients

so how

[runic ember]

send a request to a server

and the server gets the client's ip

[rancid light]

i mean script is running on host

and not other connected players device

[rancid light]

so how their ip will be recorded

[runic ember]

I’m talking about the host

[rancid light]

thats simple thing, happens in bds as well

and its not the main concern i think

[hearty hare]

Okay, guys.

New channel or just a new tag on #1067535382285135923?

[rancid light]

i think they did it bcz they mainly focused on scripts for marketplace purposes

[hearty hare]

I've been given a thumbs-up from Mojang.

[runic ember]

New tag because it’s still ScriptAPI

Thank you devs ❤️

[rancid light]

and they want to discourage marketplace creators on making addons connect to internet

[hearty hare]

Example code and notes at https://discord.com/channels/523663022053392405/1083451192333574164

I lazily mapped out most… if not all… of the existing API.

[rancid light]

btw why i am stuck in trial in preview

[rancid light]

btw for those who dont know
you can switch btw editor mode and normal mode at any time

[hearty hare]

Control + Tab?

[karmic narwhal]

i dont think so we should have this seperated as Editor is separated from default minecraft also pack is called extension and cant be used in normal worlds

yes in editor extension u can use Minecraft APIs as well

[rancid light]

while its running use chrome url or windows run and enter this minecraft:?Editor=true

[runic ember]

You can create a shortcut in the desktop to launch it easily

[rancid light]

yes , more easily is pin that shortcut to task bar at position 1 and use win key + 1

lol

[karmic narwhal]

me -> Win + R

xd

[rancid light]

win r and enter if its the last used cmd in run

the laggy setttings screen is still laggy

[runic ember]

The settings screen is not laggy for me

[rancid light]

lol

[rancid light]

entering is laggy

[mellow moon]

i think we should get an editor mode forum / discussion channel

[hoary galleon]

It's being discussed 🙂

Most llikely wont happen till v0.4

[runic ember]

https://discord.com/channels/523663022053392405/1083451192333574164

[karmic narwhal]

Fluid fill test

[rustic galleon]

custom brush?

[karmic narwhal]

ya

[rustic galleon]

it's insane, love it

did you try to see if the .mceditoraddon file extension works correctly?

[hoary galleon]

Oh nice, share it on Twitter or something!

Just the vid

[karmic narwhal]

@hoary galleon You could if u want just some little credits

i could do shorter video if u want

[hoary galleon]

👀 You no like the Bird App?

[solar blaze]

Discussion App

[hoary galleon]

I love test:1 down

[karmic narwhal]

just no one would see it on my account xd

u are pretty followed so u can flex wit BAO community

xd

[hoary galleon]

Will do, your Twitter is the same linked in your bioe correct?

[karmic narwhal]

ya

I have problem xd

[rustic galleon]

ono

[karmic narwhal]

Here is another fancy video

I gtg but i will add also some settings

for it

[runic ember]

It doesn’t work yet

[rustic galleon]

oh ok too bad

[karmic sage]

Wow you guys are making some really cool stuff already

Makes me want to get into scripting lol

[hoary galleon]

Welcome to the family

[rotund quail]

Better add a max distance, lol

[karmic narwhal]

ya default is 100

but should be manageable

[karmic sage]

Okay cool custom blocks work

[hoary galleon]

👀 Well...let's see how well classic water plugin trends on the bird app

[karmic sage]

tag me

[karmic narwhal]

but performanc ist that good but still ok

[karmic sage]

Gets progressively worse

[karmic narwhal]

i talking about JS APIs

[rotund quail]

With my addon's fill command, it has a chance of stopping the script entirely on large radii.

[karmic narwhal]

lets see tomorrow what i will be able to implement its still better fun then basic addons 💀

also thx for Cici and xdark they helping with api testing

[runic ember]

No problem

[hidden iris]

Anybody come across frozen lightning in the Editor yet? 🙃

[runic ember]

i have

[hoary galleon]

I uh...experience "ghost blocks"

[runic ember]

pause all actors then spawn a lightning bolt

[runic ember]

i accidentally spawned too many and made minecraft freeze

[hidden iris]

ghost blocks?

[hoary galleon]

😅 Not the right word but after leaving an area and the game coming back into the game, into the area, the world seems to reset then the blocks start popping up

Which kinda slows down my game

[hidden iris]

Hmmm interesting, seems like something with chunk loading?

I'll make a note of that

[hoary galleon]

Oh yeah, most definitely, anything you edit just seems to reset then wait a minute it comes back

[karmic sage]

I haven't come across any issues with lightning

[runic ember]

Pause all actors then weather to thunder or spawn a lightning bold

[karmic sage]

I'll try that in about 16 hours

[twilit cipher]

Classic would like a word

[gaunt jackal]

this will be so useful for some of the create mod features I want to implement

[mellow moon]

  "format_version": "1.13.0",
  "minecraft:tree_feature": {
    "description": {
      "identifier": "minecraft:cherry_tree_feature"
    },
    "cherry_trunk": {
      "trunk_block": "minecraft:cherry_log",
      "trunk_height": {
        "base": 7,
        "intervals": [ 1 ]
      },
      "branches": {
        "tree_type_weights": {
          "one_branch": 10,
          "two_branches": 10,
          "two_branches_and_trunk": 10
        },
        "branch_horizontal_length": {
          "range_min": 2,
          "range_max": 4
        },
        "branch_start_offset_from_top": {
          "range_min": -4,
          "range_max": -3
        },
        "branch_end_offset_from_top": {
          "range_min": -1,
          "range_max": 0
        },
        "branch_canopy": {
          "cherry_canopy": {
            "leaf_block": "minecraft:cherry_leaves",
            "height": 5,
            "radius": 4,
            "wide_bottom_layer_hole_chance": 25,
            "corner_hole_chance": 50,
            "hanging_leaves_chance": 16.6666,
            "hanging_leaves_extension_chance": 33.3333
          }
        }
      }
    },
    "cherry_canopy": {
      "leaf_block": "minecraft:cherry_leaves",
      "height": 5,
      "radius": 4,
      "wide_bottom_layer_hole_chance": 25,
      "corner_hole_chance": 50,
      "hanging_leaves_chance": 16.6666,
      "hanging_leaves_extension_chance": 33.3333
    },
    // Kinds of blocks the tree can be placed on.
    // We want all kinds of "dirt" blocks: dirt, grass, podzol, mud, etc.
    "may_grow_on": [
      {
        "tags": "query.any_tag('dirt')"
      }
    ],
    // Whatever kind of "dirt" the tree gets planted on, it will be replaced
    // by an actual Dirt block if it isn't one already.
    // NOTE: Coarse Dirt is a state of Dirt, so it will stay as Coarse Dirt.
    "base_block": [
      "minecraft:dirt"
    ],
    // This is used when checking the volume the tree is going to be placed on.
    // Dirt around the placement area doesn't block the tree from being created.
    "may_grow_through": [
      {
        "tags": "query.any_tag('dirt')"
      }
    ],
    // This is used when actually building the tree (trunk and foliage).
    // Air and leaves (and snow on leaves) can be replaced.
    "may_replace": [
      "minecraft:air",
      // Sadly no tags for leaves yet
      "minecraft:leaves",
      "minecraft:leaves2",
      "minecraft:azalea_leaves",
      "minecraft:azalea_leaves_flowered",
      "minecraft:mangrove_leaves",
      "minecraft:snow_layer"
    ]
  }
}

cherry tree feature JSON file

for those interested in how the trunks and canopies work

[runic herald]

Just woke up. and there is a alot of stuff 👀

[dapper cosmos]

With the former pot, we decided that the pot's neck would clip with blocks so it would be extra flexible to build with. However, we've had some Z-fighting issues which means that 2 objects are in the same exact position and this causes flickering. With this new block model we prevent that and the pot looks a little bit more complex!

I like how complex it looks

Overall banger preview tho

[karmic sage]

I admire your dedication to RTX and all it's problems. I myself have given up on it.

[native forge]

1.19.80?!

🤯

[short laurel]

i really just wish minecraft is a game engine like roblolx and hytael

idk about hytael tho

[karmic narwhal]

but looks like every Extension in Editor Mode must implement own undo redo🤔

[storm rose]

same

[karmic sage]

Hmm

Know what would be cool..

A offical (free!!) store for Editor Mode Extensions

Would have to be approved stuff ofc

[storm rose]

Yes!

[runic ember]

Hytale*

[rotund quail]

Looking at the feedback page for the new death screen, half the feedback is "keep the old one". 😐

[hoary galleon]

The feedback website is actual trolls

[rotund quail]

And twitter

Must be where they came from

[hoary galleon]

Yeah, Ive only seen genuine feedback on discord, reddit, and yt. The other socials are absolute trolls

[storm rose]

Some people say the new one looks like a cheap mobile game

some point out the green colour

the font

the lack of an exit button

[hoary galleon]

I think its hella fire 🔥

[storm rose]

same

[rancid light]

i got 1.19.80 preview changelog in 1.19.63 lol

[granite lynx]

Yeah me too

[ancient furnace]

Bedrock is slowly becoming a Game Engine

And the new Editor Mode in my eyes it’s something like “Minecraft Studio”

[short laurel]

yea i kinda like that

[short laurel]

it sure really look a game engine layout lol

unity, roblolx studio

[ancient furnace]

Yep. The only big missing features are the ability to customize graphics and worlds/biomes

And also we should be able to make custom keys but I think it will be possible soon since mobile just got the new touch controls

[short laurel]

yeah, it still missing some features and very limited

minecraft players are just so creative i cant imagine what it will look like if minecraft is very customizeable

community*

[ancient furnace]

Soon we will see it

In my mind I always saying “Bedrock will become the best version of Minecraft by the end of 2025.”

[short laurel]

i think bedrock will be better than java if it has less bug and more customizeable

[ancient furnace]

This is what they are trying to do.

[short laurel]

you can just see from fps comparison and the best thing about bedrock is its crossplatform (being able to join friends without server, etc)

[ancient furnace]

Yeah, and within 2-3 years it will be the best version of modpacks too

[short laurel]

i hope so (if they dont always limit things and things for more customizability)

[ancient furnace]

Bedrock will get a huge mod community due to higher FPS on mod packs

Java players willl just get lags

[hoary galleon]

[ancient furnace]

I agree

@runic ember hi friend

Are you planning to share your editor work

[runic ember]

Hello 👋

[runic ember]

Soon

[finite sundial]

Even with scripting, Bedrock still lags behind what modding on Java can do. It'll probably be like that for a long time.

[ancient furnace]

is it a server-side lag or client-side ?

[finite sundial]

"Lag" as in it lacks capabilities.

[ancient furnace]

Ah

Well I didn't say any specific time

[finite sundial]

I can see Bedrock becoming more of an engine though.

[ancient furnace]

I just say modding and more things will be much much better on bedrock by the end of 2025.

(If they continue on the current speed)

[finite sundial]

One can hope, but I always set my expectations low so I'm always surprised.

[hoary galleon]

I have no expectations except for more toggles

[ancient furnace]

I have no expectations on shader/graphics modding except for more toggles too

[hoary galleon]

https://twitter.com/SmokeyStack_/status/1634193640284200961?s=20 👀 But uh, why no one talking about what the hell this is

SmokeyStack (@SmokeyStack_)

I haven't seen people talk about this on Twitter, but the renderer folder got updated again not only to include the fix with RTX lights being white, but also some new shadow config files.🤔Could this be linked to the rumoured RenderDragon API, or is this just another RTX thing

Twitter · Mar 10, 2023, 2:05 PM

[finite sundial]

At least Bedrock seems to have a direction it's going in. I can't say the same about Java and I've been making content for it for ages.

[ancient furnace]

Actually we already talked about that

[hoary galleon]

😛 link please so I dont have to scroll

[ancient furnace]

.

[hoary galleon]

Oh lmao, I shouldve scrolled up a bit more, also 😛 you didnt link the tweet so how was I supposed to know

[ancient furnace]

why I need to link the tweet since I uploaded the screenshots from someone

anyway 😄

Back to topic, I really hope they're working on RenderDragon API

If they won't, it will be the biggest missing feature on Bedrock

They are also working on the OreUI API but we still don't have any info about it

Oh, how many APIs?

• Scripting API
• Editor API
• Render Dragon API
• Ore UI API
• What's next?

[runic ember]

I didn’t want to talk about it because i still don’t think we are getting Shaders yet

[hoary galleon]

😛 so I can praise the OP

[runic ember]

You forgot about Client API

@minecraft/client is in the files so that means that we are getting a Client API

[ancient furnace]

I guess it is made to add more options to our video settings and more

And also it reminds me of adding hacked clients lol

[hoary galleon]

HCF and other add-ons

[ancient furnace]

HCF?

[fierce magnet]

Holiday Creator Features

[rancid light]

which file

[runic ember]

The .exe file

[rancid light]

then it will probably come but i am thinking what it will do, run scripts on client devices or return players as users rather than player so that keyboard event, device type etc, or is it ore ui related

[runic ember]

I actually don’t know what it will but i think @minecraft/client-ui is gonna be used for OreUI

[storm rose]

Did the legacy scripting api have client side stuff?

[rancid light]

and if ore ui is going to be released so i think there would be rp side scripts too

[rancid light]

yes

but that doesnt start with @ i think

[storm rose]

it had some ui stuff right?

[rancid light]

yes

[storm rose]

How capable was it?

[rancid light]

they didnt made progress with it

i mean never updated it as they doing updates now

[storm rose]

Was it just simple grey buttons?

[rancid light]

so yes we can say that was bad

[rancid light]

html

[storm rose]

Oooo

with css too?

[rancid light]

there was html and js

i dont remember about css

may be inline support or file mode support was there

[haughty drum]

We at GM1 already treat Minecraft as an engine 😀

[stray owl]

😀

[runic herald]

Progress for 3rd party shader support. It looks like people at mojang has done some work on it.

However can't expect to come sooner but later.

[rancid light]

this means a new experimental toggle

will this keep increasing or decrease too

[hoary galleon]

More toggles!

[rancid light]

sniffer and next major update should be same, why separate

[mellow moon]

there is gonna be an armor trim toggle too

[rancid light]

do they like adding experimental toggles, or wanted to highlight to players the sniffer

[rancid light]

latest beta edits player armor model

[mellow moon]

cool

[hoary galleon]

That's bc of z fighting issues

[rancid light]

yes, there are no cubes in it lol

[runic herald]

Maybe not most likely but expected.

[rancid light]

why not

its common route that every new feature first comes in experimental

like a simple sniffer mob is behind experimental

[hoary galleon]

🤔 Editor mode isnt a toggle

[runic herald]

That's what im saying too

[rancid light]

you launch it in special way

[hoary galleon]

😛 still not an experimental toggle

[rancid light]

you can use all script features without turning on experimental

[runic herald]

3rd party shader support is related to modding just like texture packs

You don't turn on a toggle to make or run texture packs in game

It iz what it iz.

[rancid light]

may be they wont be supported as global resources

like experimental queires

[storm rose]

Not exactly 3rd party shaders

more like "visual differentiation"

[runic herald]

Whatever.

But it is related to shaders though

[runic herald]

They will be. Shaders are something that can be used under global resources.

ok GN.

[rancid light]

queries are also something that can be used there, but we cant use experimental queries there

[gusty vessel]

I got them feature rules

[mellow moon]

yeah i found the feature files too

[gusty vessel]

They were under the experimental (next major update) toggle

[mellow moon]

the canopies are really intriguing

an the trunk is nice too

[rustic galleon]

@hidden iris I have a super important and intelligent question about the Editor.
We're not sure how the call the thing on the Minecraft Wiki
Is it Minecraft Editor, Minecraft Bedrock Editor or just Bedrock Editor?

[karmic narwhal]

hat about Editor Mode

[rustic galleon]

that too

[magic dawn]

Minecraft: Bedrock Editor and Minecraft Editor, both are used in minecraft-editor readme

[rustic galleon]

but on docs and twitter hash it's just Bedrock Editor

[ancient furnace]

Call it Minecraft Studio since the community will do so interesting things

[rustic galleon]

Minecraft Community Brushes Mode

[ancient furnace]

I guess Mojang did not created the editor mode just for building. Building is just the beginning. They could release more things in the future like the replay mod. Remember this: they started with GameTest Framework and then renamed it to Script API, so they may do the same thing.

Also the name “editor” is a very big name and not a word just for building.

[rancid light]

an easy terrain generator for my unity games

level maker*

also for making

2d games

[rotund quail]

The exit button is the only valid feedback I've heard so far

[rancid light]

alt f4

they can add a exit shortcut like ctrl f4 as well

[magic dawn]

They have one, ctrl q

[hidden iris]

Let's go with Minecraft Bedrock Editor!

[hoary galleon]

👀 You've been a busy bee today. Also not Minecraft: Bedrock Editor and just Minecraft: Bedrock Editor?

[hidden iris]

Ah, I see -- my eyes are sleepy! Let's go with the :

Minecraft: Bedrock Editor

[hoary galleon]

👏 Whoo! Consistency unlike Cherry Groves and Archy

[sand gulch]

pfft naming consistency....

[hidden iris]

lol c'mon kayla

[sand gulch]

I'll tell you all what I tell Chloe and the team.. this thing has got to EARN a name first. Let it be free for now 😛

[hoary galleon]

Generating terrain, banner_pattern moment

[mellow moon]

if kayla is an AI is celestialbeans also an ai

is there hidden lore to be uncovered

[runic ember]

Kayla is not an AI, she’s a ChatGPT NPC

[mellow moon]

mb i ain't watch all the episodes of bedrock addons

[hoary galleon]

😵‍💫 Wait..so she's been self advertising then

[sand gulch]

terrible. just terrible

[hoary galleon]

Blockbench would like to sue

[sand gulch]

even worse

[hidden iris]

lmao

[hoary galleon]

😜 OH I know! Editor MODE

[runic ember]

I think Editor Mode is a better name

[sand gulch]

or how about Toolbox Mode!

[hoary galleon]

Crosshair mode is crying rn

[runic ember]

Or how about Tool Mode

[cunning mesa]

That would get confusing considering there’s a client out there called toolbox lol

[sand gulch]

see.. naming is stupid. I vote for no name 😛

[runic ember]

Me too

[hoary galleon]

You're forgetting that Mojang has MC Live, Minecon Earth, Minecon, Minecon Festival

[runic ember]

No Name Mode

[cunning mesa]

“Hey, have you checked out the new features on yet?”

[hoary galleon]

Mojang is as confusing as it can be

[runic ember]

Minecraft Now

[sand gulch]

oh we can be more confusing!

[mellow moon]

wait ur on to something

[rotund quail]

What about just Minecraft Editor?

[mellow moon]

Minecraft : No Name Mode

[sand gulch]

brilliant!

[hoary galleon]

Oh that reminds me 😜 @hidden iris , when v0.4 comes out, will it be noted on the changelog? Is there also a way to check what version of Editor is currently rn like how Minecraft has the version number at the bottom?

[rugged walrus]

Minecraft But Editor

xd

[runic ember]

Minecraft Editor without Mode

[mellow moon]

you can write a YT shorts / tiktok video script for that title

[rotund quail]

MINECRAFT
Editor

[rugged walrus]

eww

[mellow moon]

make sure to have the most annoying voice every

and overreact to everything and allerything

[hoary galleon]

OH like HCF😜

[sand gulch]

quiet you.

[rotund quail]

UCF

[hoary galleon]

Notice how when kayla types, Chloe doesnt and vice versa. 🧐 Lore

[rotund quail]

🤣

[sand gulch]

there we typed at the same time

[hidden iris]

Yup! Each Preview has the changelogs published, and our team will use the Announcements category in GitHub for more detailed release notes. v0.4 will be very clearly noted, as well as all of the links to documentation.

Between now and v0.4, we'll have version numbers like v0.3.X. We're just relying on the Preview build versions - not going to fuss with mapping our minor versions

[mellow moon]

Whatever entity is controlling them can't have two instances of ChatGPT open at once

[runic ember]

Chloe was typing then when you started typing she stopped typing for a sec

[hoary galleon]

🤔 So you're also saying we can have a 0.3.100?

[runic ember]

We do you all have problems with .100?

[hidden iris]

haha next one will be v0.3.1 --> 0.3.2 --> and so on, until v0.4 is ready

[crystal breach]

I thought tool box was just Minecraft editor's original name

So its a different thing

[runic ember]

It is the original name

[hoary galleon]

You sure not 0.3.10?

[hidden iris]

0.3.1-billion

[crystal breach]

Ahh i see

[runic ember]

0.3.∞ when?

[mellow moon]

what about minecraft 2

[crystal breach]

You really think that .100 has magical properties huh

[mellow moon]

i have a fake minecraft 2 game box

[magic dawn]

you might as well use hashes to identify features

those base64 hashes, really cool naming scheme

[karmic sage]

That sounds familiar

[crystal breach]

That was a name from upcoming tool that was seen once during 1.18 preview

[karmic sage]

Yah Ik. was joking

[karmic sage]

that tool is editor mode

[crystal breach]

Just found out today that was edit-
Oh yeah excuse me.

[karmic sage]

lol

[crystal breach]

Im still new here

[karmic sage]

np

welcome to server

air tag jokes are required

[crystal breach]

Fair enough

[magic dawn]

ban air tags

[karmic sage]

Can't ban what doesn't exist

[mellow moon]

it does in scripting

[karmic sage]

What's scripting?

[sand gulch]

scripting was the toolbox mode all along!

[runic ember]

Like fr?

[hoary galleon]

😵‍💫 Yall were really cooking in 2020

[crystal breach]

Say kayla when are we getting a toggle that show all experimental toggle.

[crystal breach]

To think Mojang continued to work with this even when the community was being jerks and calling them lazy

Ngl big respect for Mojang

[sand gulch]

I was still being lazy

[haughty drum]

Can confirm Kayla is always lazy. Unless someone asks her to add more toggles, then she goes Sonic Speed

Or design talks about toggles

[hoary galleon]

.> least "lazy" mojangster, proceeds to churn out amazing features

[sand gulch]

the toggles will continue until toggle morale improves

[haughty drum]

Not once has Kayla ever answered a question from me unless it was toggle related

[sand gulch]

this is true. I always as you to rephrase the question in the form of a toggle

[hoary galleon]

Kayla I found an exploit that could ruin MC forever!!!
crickets
Kayla one of the toggles is off centered
panic mode

[runic ember]

Insert Jeb Nooo Meme

[mellow moon]

explain in toggle terms

[haughty drum]

Kayla this feature broke one of our maps! crickets
Kayla this change that was not behind a toggle broke one of our maps!

[crystal breach]

I guess she has a toggle in her mind for that sort of stuff

😉

[haughty drum]

oh oh no

[rancid light]

What about 0.3.0.1, ...0.3.1.0 .......... 0.4.0.0

[karmic sage]

Can you add a toggle to turn of Gravel?

[rotund quail]

gamerule for disabling block gravity sounds great

unironically

[slim marsh]

the tone almost reminds me of minecraft.net articles whwn they're being sarcastically bad xD

[runic herald]

https://tenor.com/view/triggered-trigger-dumbot-trigger-dumbot-triggered-dumbot-gif-21040137

[runic herald]

After the infinity war.

https://tenor.com/view/infinity-war-avengers-death-cjb1967-gif-18666706

[runic ember]

I don’t know why i got a notification for this even tho you’re not replying to my message

[livid hawk]

Now that you talk about it

Yeah, I would want a Back to Menu button

[runic herald]

lol maybe a discord glitch or something

[livid hawk]

Or I can easily imagine people setting up a repeating command block with kill UltimateSppy765 and me never being able to come out of that endless chain

[shut cedar]

Hello old friends! I have follow y'all from Twitter to here. Do i get to be a new toggle in Minecraft now?

[storm rose]

Maybe the pause menu should be able show up while youre dead

Maybe the escape key could let you exit to the menu

[karmic sage]

This is legally binding right?

[hoary galleon]

Depends

Oh wait no, usage of emojis voids any legal contracts, trust

[karmic sage]

Don't worry Beans. We don't expect everything to come to fruition.

[hoary galleon]

😛 we expect tons of naming changes, API changes, and bugs

Is it really a good program if it doesnt have a few bugs in the beginning

[karmic sage]

I love when block light absorption componet is renamed 10 times

[karmic sage]

I would say so. You can tell they spent a lot of time and effort on it. It's already pretty solid.

[hidden iris]

We want to be super transparent with our development of it moving forward -- there's seriously so much we want to do, and we're having a ton of fun!

[hoary galleon]

❤️ It's gonna be amazing, I can't recall the last time Bedrock and the devs communicated together

[karmic sage]

Being on github helps massively. I think Jira kinda.. sucks

[hoary galleon]

😅 More like the Bedrock project on Jira sucks

[hidden iris]

Jira definitely has its place and purpose, but yeah - I ❤️ github

[hoary galleon]

😅 Also holy cow 900K iinternal bugs?

[karmic sage]

Best part is It's free (to a certain amount)

[hidden iris]

Lol the id #s?

[hoary galleon]

I sure hope it's not how many bugs have been tracked internally lol

[hidden iris]

Haha noooooo, that would be bananas

[karmic sage]

Oh beans. What if there was a offical extension store for approved Editor Mode extensions

That would be cool

[hidden iris]

That would be super cool!!

[karmic sage]

Free hopefully

[hoary galleon]

Marketplace moment?

👀 Also might keep a star collection of all editor extensions on github

[karmic sage]

Eh. Seperate

Imagine extensions on blockbench

Actually that would be perfect implementation imo

Okay I made feedback post thingy https://github.com/Mojang/minecraft-editor/discussions/70

[hoary galleon]

Damz, 70 posts alr

Oh reminds me @hidden iris , the extension label on github means what exactly? For API? For the community to make an extension?

[karmic sage]

I was thinking it means official extensions. Not sure

[hoary galleon]

Yeah, the desciprition of github isnt too clear

[karmic sage]

The possibilities of Editor Mode are.. so great

With extensions (or native support) of block/entity data viewing/manipulation I don't think I would ever go back to non-Editor Mode

[hoary galleon]

It isnt the fact that it is powerful that amazes me. its the fact that mojang took the time to make this and made it public use

[karmic sage]

Kayla said Editor Mode doesn't exist

I have no idea what we are talking about.

Guess beans in offline

[hoary galleon]

😛 Well it is a messaging app not an instant response app

[karmic sage]

yah ik lol

[fluid furnace]

Heyo. So about future Editor updates, will they be treated like another game? As in, all Editor changes will be listed in Preview blog posts, or in a separate post on feedback site/Github? And will Editor updates follow Bedrock updates release cycle, or it has its own?

[runic herald]

Well now im back and what is happening here

[runic herald]

yea lol

[karmic sage]

When you change dimensions in editor mode you keep your position right? (Can't test rn)

Oh so it spawn?

[sand gulch]

Since the Editor is part of Bedrock, it will only update during normal Bedrock update cadences. Changes should be listed in the normal Bedrock changelogs.

[karmic sage]

I'll figure it out tomorrow. Was watching a youtube video and wanted to confirm.

[karmic sage]

Editor Mode so cool it should get it's own changelog.

[haughty drum]

Id's are shared across all projects in Azure Dev ops so like web, services, bedrock, marketplace etc so I could see them moving pretty fast

[rancid light]

i think a highlighting it via heading would be enough for changelog (in minecraft changelog)

however as long as edits are just pack based they should provide it via a marketplace extension

like upcoming editor features addon beta

so that people can update editor without waiting for a minecraft update

[haughty drum]

The editor is built into / on top of some pretty core systems which probably keeps it tied down to game updates right now. Plus that Marketplace services don't have support for that.

[rancid light]

i mean if they added a new tool in tool bar

etc

they can provide pack via github then as well

i dont mean editor api related changes

[haughty drum]

that could lead some pretty big fragmentation. What happens if you download the new tool and it gets released in the next update to MC. Do you now have it duped? There could end up being a lot of edge cases there

[rancid light]

duplicate addons with same id and version are detectable and handleable by minecraft

[haughty drum]

It is normally handled it by rejecting the installation of the dupe

Also previews come out weekly, it's not a long time haha

[rancid light]

oh yes.

[haughty drum]

Previews come out faster than the editor team can add new things, unless they are all super sonic

[rancid light]

but it would be useful when minecraft editor comes in release minecraft

[haughty drum]

Then new features will be in preview still 😀

[rancid light]

then at time we would have to wait month or two for updated tools to be in editor

however nvm just do manual copy paste if api is not changed

[haughty drum]

0.4 could be in R20 and 0.4.1 could be in the first preview for R20U1

You'd only need to wait a month for stable features to be in stable

[rancid light]

ok

[tepid skiff]

i hope on 15 March they release 1.19.70 and then maybe also 1.19.80

[mellow moon]

i doubt they would release two updates on the same day

lol

[tepid skiff]

yeah lol

[runic herald]

Its actually fitting anyways lol

[rustic galleon]

Since Editor mode is part of Bedrock, it's translated by Google...
In French it literally makes no sense, especially since it's technical terms

[tepid skiff]

they actually did it.
1.1.0 of '@minecraft/server' module is not beta anymore, it's stable
now we have 1.2.0

ohmygosh this is so exciting

- Minecraft runtime errors are now fired as JavaScript Error objects instead of strings

THEY ACTUALLY DID IT TOO?

User Interface

- Feedback button on the pause menu will now prompt the user with a modal before redirecting to the browser

oh wait it's only just for a feedback button

dang it

i thought they would make a clickable link in chat, forms.

[runic ember]

You forgot about something important thing, Editor Mode

[tepid skiff]

yea it's a great feature

it's like worldedit in bedrock

[karmic narwhal]

xd

[karmic narwhal]

Thats not

[tepid skiff]

huh?

[karmic narwhal]

Its client run time fremework where u can via editor modules add tools

[tepid skiff]

oh

[karmic narwhal]

that tools could be WE

so u can add world edit to Editor Mode

xd

[tepid skiff]

so what happens when we launch the Minecraft Editor Mode from windows shortcuts?

[karmic narwhal]

there are default tools like selection and cube brush

[runic ember]

it launches the Minecraft Preview in Editor Mode

[karmic narwhal]

ya

[tepid skiff]

yeah i know that

ok nevermind

it would be great if they add multi-world support in bds

[hoary galleon]

:0 it's the lurker

[rancid light]

i think custom dimensions would be enough

and dimensions data should be stored in separate folders

[hoary galleon]

Custom dimension is a long way aways

[proud haven]

I'd say custom biomes are enough

[rancid light]

how is multi world easy

then

there are 3 dimensions so some work is already done, + work from april fool update of java edition whereas a pure multiworld type thing work is total zero

[rancid light]

but we cant isolate players in it

[hoary galleon]

They might be referring to this https://feedback.minecraft.net/hc/en-us/community/posts/360040238051-Multiple-Worlds-on-One-Bedrock-Server

[rancid light]

idk why people ask for a multi world instead of dimension

1. if its two worlds
   i) extra ticking
   ii) double item registration
   iii)double block,entity registration
   iv) etc

[hoary galleon]

What?

[proud haven]

Custom Dimensions are less likely to happen on bedrock since we wait ages for custom biomes

[rancid light]

So then a built-in proxy system

[rancid light]

Bcz blocks item their current priority

[proud haven]

And No, extra world doesn't have extra ticking, all worlds ran on a server share the same ticks, and they don't double registration for items, blocks and entities.

[hoary galleon]

I dont think they understand what hosting multiple worlds mean

[rancid light]

Where u saw this

[proud haven]

Knowledge

[rancid light]

Bruh, each world has its own addons

So its own set of item, block etc

[hoary galleon]

Vanilla

[proud haven]

Hive run fine, and they host tons of maps on their server w addons

[rancid light]

We need to consider all situations not specific

[rancid light]

Their server is built from scratch

Not a bds

[hoary galleon]

You know what, Im gonna stop. Not gonna argue with someone

[rancid light]

Ok

[runic ember]

Hive doesn't use add-ons

[proud haven]

They use jason ui for their uis

eww

[rancid light]

He meant rp only

[hoary galleon]

🤢 JSON UI

[runic ember]

JsonUI sucks, can't wait for a module that allows us to create UIs using OreUI

[proud haven]

html, css and js 😍

[hoary galleon]

🤔 Im still counting oreUI as scripting bc of js /s

[rancid light]

And i am thinking that how will the ui will work with each other.
In json ui we can add controls without complete rewrite.
Is similar thing can be done in ore ui

Bcz it would be useless if you apply 10 ui addons and only 1 of them has its ui edits active

[karmic narwhal]

Client Scripting actually 🥹

[tepid skiff]

wait can you use Ore-UI for Minecraft?

[hoary galleon]

Not yet

[tepid skiff]

dayumm bro he didnt do nothing

[short laurel]

but or ui will lagger than jason ui😞

[hoary galleon]

How?

[runic ember]

Have you seen the new Death Screen

[short laurel]

no

[short laurel]

i just think it logically(not really)

or am i wrong

[runic ember]

The new Death Screen loads immediately

[rancid light]

Ore ui should start technically laggy but eventually its performance will bypass json ui

[hoary galleon]

🤷 Why

[rancid light]

Bcz they constantly developing it unlike abandoning like thet did to json ui

[hoary galleon]

...doesnt mean it will be laggy?

What?

[rancid light]

By lag, just see settings screen load time.
Jow it has increased

[hoary galleon]

🤔 I see no increase in load times for create new world, achievements, or death screen

[rancid light]

Also json ui is mostly c++ and json data

While ore ui is js

[rancid light]

Good pc

[runic ember]

Same

[hoary galleon]

I have the most dogwater pc from 2020

[rancid light]

I have 2010

[hoary galleon]

Time to discontinue it then

Mojang should not adhere to old tech

[rancid light]

But at least i can notice what is faster. And whats not

And js can never surpass c++

[hoary galleon]

🤔 Well I see no noticeable difference os it shouldnt matter

[rancid light]

Bcz you cant match speed of cpu to see which one has faster performance

But c++ is always faster than any high level lang

[hoary galleon]

I fail to see how that counters my argument

[rancid light]

Not going to counter

But just saying c++ is always faster

As long as you dont write shitty code

[hoary galleon]

🤷 Never said it wasnt

[rancid light]

Replying to what?

Lag?

For lag i mean ore ui would be naturally slower than json ui

Due to js and c++

Only high quality code optimization and js writing can surpass that

[tepid skiff]

alright alright

[rancid light]

Or if json ui engine is written badly

[tepid skiff]

to end this once for all, what do you guys prefer? Ore-UI or JSON-UI?

[runic ember]

OreUI

[rancid light]

Ore ui

[storm rose]

Im not sure how to say this but

the buttons dont feel as reactive as they did with json ui

and I miss the old overscroll effect

[rancid light]

Ore ui is good engine but the UI they made redesign of not good

[short laurel]

bro ended the whole argument

[hoary galleon]

I love OreUI's look more

[storm rose]

yes but it looks unresponsive on mobile when compared to json ui

it might make people think it is more unresponsive

[hoary galleon]

🤷 I dont feel any unresponsiveness on my end on my tablet

[storm rose]

sometimes it looks like the buttons didnt register your input immediately because of how the hover effect works

with json ui you could swipe your finger over the buttons and see them update to the green colour immediately

in the new ui that doesnt happen

[tepid skiff]

well soon it might be happening on Ore-UI

and no complains no more!

[finite sundial]

Which is extremely easy to do.
Forgot to pass by const reference? Congratulations, you're making unnecessary copies. Hopefully you're not allocating memory too.

Also, C++ is a high level language too. Same goes for C.

[hoary galleon]

Init low level?

[finite sundial]

No.

[hoary galleon]

😵‍💫 nomeclatures

[finite sundial]

Pretty sure the creator of C++ calls it high level too.

[finite sundial]

Yeah. 😅
I guess it really depends on what you're used to. From a JS perspective it must look low level, but it still has a lot of abstractions and syntactic sugar.

[runic herald]

Hmm

[runic herald]

Agreed +1

Feels minecrafty enough

[finite sundial]

Templates are a good example. It might seem like you can make functions take any type, but you're just autogenerating functions with the generic types replaced (it's more complex than that, but you should get the idea).

[runic herald]

Remembering the temples, i wonder if people at mojang can add more structure IDs for structures to basically split it into desert temples and witch huts etc for bedrock which isn't under parity yet.

[hoary galleon]

They did with Java

[runic herald]

But not with bedrock

[storm rose]

does the command support custom structures?

[finite sundial]

And technically most structures on Java aren't even data driven.

[hoary galleon]

me when wells are a feature and not structure

[finite sundial]

Like why aren't dungeons data driven.

[hoary galleon]

at least your structures can be data driven

[finite sundial]

And we can use jigsaws.

Well, we should be able to. Never tried it.

[runic herald]

Its something i maybe remember but generating structures is possible with datapacks right?

[storm rose]

what are jigsaws for?

[finite sundial]

Yes.

[hoary galleon]

1.21 🥺 customizability update please, we alr have Editor

[runic herald]

1.20 is already becoming a kind of customizability update

[finite sundial]

It's for building structures like villages or bastions.

[runic herald]

Like custom controls soon be coming for bedrock mobile

Editor will be having expandability by its Editor API

(not sure) 3rd Party shader support when it arrives.
Armor trims make armor customizable with almost infinite patterns

[runic ember]

It already has extensions

[runic herald]

I meant expandability. typo mistake*

I wonder if badgerman is a data miner.

[hoary galleon]

Most likely scrapes their web servers and/or receives nda content

[runic herald]

Remember how modbay gets early beta update tweets before getting released?

[crystal breach]

Yeah but aleast she did explain how it happened

Thus it was patched

[hoary galleon]

🤔 How?

[crystal breach]

Brb im going to find the tweet

[misty dagger]

Does this mean all beta api is now in stable?

[hoary galleon]

Not all

[misty dagger]

Or did they only add this to stable

[hoary galleon]

Just those listed in the changelog

[misty dagger]

Oh, so stable is still kinda useless

[misty dagger]

Also do I need to increment my version to 1.2.0?

[hoary galleon]

The modules? Yes if you want to use the beta stuff in 1.19.80

[storm rose]

If they posted nda stuff mojangs enforcement team would have taken down their tweets

right?

[hidden iris]

Yup!

[finite sundial]

Can't exactly remove things from the internet.

[storm rose]

true

but they would have atleast taken some sort of action

like they do with some

certain other stuff

[hidden iris]

Good question, I'll write that better! It means it could be a potential candidate to be written as an extension for the editor. Not to say we wouldn't make it part of the core Editor experience, but it might be possible with creator/scripting API, Editor API, and commands to build as an extension.

[hoary galleon]

Thanks for the response! Clarity and communication is always appreciated ❤️

[hidden iris]

I also really like 1-word labels, which makes it hard to choose words sometimes 😜

[finite sundial]

I know the struggle. 😅
I try to keep all my labeling short and concise.

[hoary galleon]

Yeah superfuture

[gusty vessel]

Now this chat will be less active due to #old-editor

https://tenor.com/view/crying-emoji-dies-gif-21956120

[granite lynx]

Its already been one of the most active update threads

[hoary galleon]

👀 Well...update threads tend to only be active for a week since a new update drops

[granite lynx]

message count difference is crazy

[gusty vessel]

Lmao

[hoary galleon]

😅 Well most of the messages is us and mojangsters joking around

[gusty vessel]

Half of the messages are from ihategravel asking for another toggle or something air related /s

[slim marsh]

guys im starving

i need new android symbols

😭

[karmic narwhal]

ok

[prime zodiac]

@gusty vessel what's ore ui

[gusty vessel]

Why did you ping me... I am not the person to ask it, but from what I know is that JSON UI is slowly getting replaced by Ore UI, which is more responsive and less of a hassle to make. There are a couple of screens that have been changed to use Ore UI (Edit World screen, Death screen (in this preview), and the "Update Changelog" screen)

I know JSON UI but Ore UI hasn't been "fully" released, it is just being tested on some UI-screens currently and slowly rolling out. We can't edit them to how we use JSON UI for it

[crystal breach]

The only bad thing is that your unable to alter it

Ore ui is fixed on with no customization

[rotund quail]

Has anyone tried editing the files for OreUI beyond textures yet? Or are the files still too hard to change?

[runic ember]

I have modified them before and added and modified some UIs

[echo jasper]

how do you find these files?

[storm rose]

magic

[runic herald]

By extracting either the game apk (Mobile) / Appx (PC) file

[crystal breach]

Witch!!! To the fiery pits with you

[livid hawk]

<Installation_Drive>\WindowsApps\Microsoft.MinecraftWindowsBeta_1.19.8020.0_x64__8wekyb3d8bbwe\data\behavior_packs\editor\scripts\Main.js

[hoary galleon]

Meh

Me who extracts the appx files instead of going ti long path

[slim marsh]

^^^ thank god mojang haven't moved to other packaging formats

[runic herald]

same.

[winged pawn]

New “You died” screen. It's available to everyone in Preview/Beta, except if you have add-ons applied.

hold on

is this mean even Ore-UI death screen is there, could it still able to get replaced by modified json-ui?

[magic dawn]

no

[winged pawn]

oh.

[fierce magnet]

I thought you still can replace with old JSON UI

[slim marsh]

oreUI and jsonUI tech stacks have a subsystem to select which one for each screen

[crystal breach]

[winged pawn]

The expect if you have add-ons applied thing still wondering me though

if you could somehow use the json-ui instead of ore-ui by doing that

or idk, probably a backward compatibility thing

[short laurel]

there used to be a bug where its too long to respawn when the respawn button click

is that fixed?

also this happend in java

probably unfixable? idkikd

[karmic narwhal]

Cooo

coool

[short laurel]

what

[mellow moon]

sick

[winged pawn]

finally

[fierce magnet]

Neutralize block ID is happening wooo

[karmic narwhal]

beta day?

[strong mauve]

Did anyone workout how to use new bone_visibility?

[proper delta]

I personally haven't, but isn't it very similar to part_visibility, just under the geo component now?

[proud haven]

That's still in preview

I'm gonna need the vp so I can give te syntax

@proper delta

It is its own component

So if I'm correct, it'll be

"minecraft:bone_visibility": {
 "*": {
      //material
      //texture
      //a boolean to hide face?
  }
}```

[karmic sage]

No condition?

That would be very inferior

[proud haven]

The official docs have nothing, only that it's an json object. But I'd assume it takes conditions.

[hoary galleon]

💀 Still cant place skulls

[karmic sage]

Hey Kayla! Can we get a example for bone visibility from the awesome devs?

[sand gulch]

sure - on it.

[hoary galleon]

Oh wow full stop

[sand gulch]

it's meant as a replacement for part_visibility - though it's a bit more limited in it's current form. there are some conversations on extending it a bit.

[proud haven]

Kayla, I tried :/

[hoary galleon]

Should we be aware of more component replacement in .80?

[proud haven]

Rotation

[sand gulch]

just this and transformation

[hoary galleon]

Ok, less work for me to update my addons and api

[proud haven]

Ok so same syntax as part visibility, just like my example syntax above.

[sand gulch]

We're getting this updated on the docs page for 1.19.80.

        "identifier": "geometryfilename", 
        "bone_visibility": { 
          "bone1": true, 
          "bone2": false, 
        } 
      }, ```

[hoary galleon]

Nooo not CamelCase

[thorn sandal]

excluse me?

[hoary galleon]

Please nooo

[thorn sandal]

camelCase for Jason?

[hoary galleon]

Eait sorry its PascalCase

[sand gulch]

look - this is what you get for asking for an "out of band" doc paste

[rotund quail]

do_it_like_this

[hoary galleon]

Nooo please no. Nit PascalCase

[proud haven]

doItLikeThisOk

[rotund quail]

notCamelCase!

[hoary galleon]

Youre getting demoted poggy

[proud haven]

[runic ember]

camelCase in json, it doesn’t look good

[mellow moon]

1.20 referense??

camel?? from minecraft???

[karmic sage]

Thanks. I think it definitely needs expanded. The original part visibility is a lot more useful. : )

[sand gulch]

What is the most important thing you think is missing? What is that keeping you from doing?

[karmic sage]

Well. With this you have to use a permutation for different states. I'm pretty sure you can't have multiple of these components and they will override eachother. Getting to the point.. let's say I have 3 bones on my block that are controlled individually, with the old component that would be super easy since each bone is controlled individually with their Condition. With the new component you have to use permutations and have a ton of permutations for each possible state

Hope that makes sense

[sand gulch]

It does. Thank you.

[strong mauve]

It seems that it does not allow molang, when the old part_visibility did allow it. Is it intended behavior or should be reported as a bug

[sand gulch]

It is currently as intended. We're talking internally about how we may extend it's capability.

[hearty hare]

If we have to sacrifice Molang support in Version 1 of the component to get it out… so be it. 😛

[sand gulch]

yeah - the goal was to get it out of experimental - which it is now!

[hoary galleon]

🤔 Interesting, so bone_visiblity is stable?

[strong mauve]

Thanks for the response
We can avoid using molang in the component by using permutations, but it increases the amount of permutations a exponentially, as for example if it depended on 2 boolean properties, would need at least 4 permutations for all possible combinations

[sand gulch]

correct. it's out of experimental in 1.19.80.20 Preview. So it should release in the next stable version.

[gusty vessel]

Out of the HCF toggle?? Oh wait... yeah...

[karmic sage]

Honestly.. I think removing "minecraft:part_visibility" was a mistake. TONS of blocks already use it, it's currently better, and it will break lots of blocks. I get that this is all Experimental and can be changed at our risk. The thing is these features have been in experimental so long they've basically become "stable" features to us.. EDIT WRONG

[hoary galleon]

Well people can always format version their blocks until bone visibility gets expanded

[karmic sage]

Is it a versioned change?

Usually when they remove components they stop for all format versions

[hoary galleon]

They didnt remove it though its deprecated right?

[karmic sage]

We going off the terminology used in changelog.

I will test

[sand gulch]

correct it's deprecated / versioned. we won't be able to remove it for a while because we have those HCF maps in the Marketplace.

[karmic sage]

okay yay

[sand gulch]

And I hear you on things being in experimental for so long that ya'll feel they've become "stable". Never again.

[hoary galleon]

😅 Is there a list somewhere of deprecated and removed components? Might worth putting on wiki. Along with the aux val to block state

[karmic sage]

I think I can list all of the block ones

[sand gulch]

Yeah I don't really want to spend the time documenting changes to things that were behind experimental.

but the community should absolutely be able to figure that out

Block things that are deprecated/planned to deprecate: rotation, breathability, menu_category, part_visibility, unit_cube, breakonpush, immovable,onlypistonpush,preventsjumping,unwalkable

[hoary galleon]

📝 Ok ok

Wait unit cube

[karmic sage]

yah..

[hoary galleon]

???

[sand gulch]

yeah unit_cube is a topic internally

the way I want us to do that is just assume a basic cube if no geometry component is added

[karmic sage]

That would work

[gusty vessel]

If no geometry component is added, it should default to a basic sphere

[hoary galleon]

Oh phew, I thought I was out of the loop for months or something. Well that makes my regolith filter/api simpler

[thorn sandal]

Apparently blocks aren't supposed to work without unit cube

[karmic sage]

Need it for stuff like rotation

[thorn sandal]

but nearly all of my custom blocks until a month ago function without it

No texture references anywhere

no size references

[hoary galleon]

Yeahh Estrongel, youre weird

[thorn sandal]

Like these are what most of my blocks look like

[karmic sage]

using old format

[thorn sandal]

is that why?

One of my newer blocks I made with the same format version

is still requiring material instances and unit cube

[sand gulch]

yeah you can continue to use old format without needing unit_cube

[thorn sandal]

I don't know how it's texture is being defined though

[karmic sage]

blocks.json?

[thorn sandal]

oh

feel like that should be in textures folder

but I guess not since you define other things in there..

Good to know my add-on isn't defying all logic

[karmic sage]

Yah, Add-Ons do somehow do that sometimes

[thorn sandal]

Think it's weird that there are two completely separate areas where you can define the same thing though

[karmic sage]

Ye. I think the blocks.json stuff should be moved to the block. Apparently blocks.json is better for lag though

[sand gulch]

simple blocks are much more performant than custom/advanced blocks currently.

[hoary galleon]

😅 I would be shock if complex things are more performant than simple things

[hearty hare]

Define "advanced".

[sand gulch]

there's work proposed to get custom blocks more performant - but yeah, right now you need to kinda make a call:

• highly customizable blocks for sparse decoration
• simple blocks suitable for worldgen

[sand gulch]

blocks that use the geometry component

Simple Block: https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/minecraft/creator/documents/addcustomdieblock

Advanced Block: https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/minecraft/creator/documents/advancedcustomblocks

simple blocks have face removal like vanilla blocks - which makes them performant when they form terrain. custom geo doesn't have this.

[hearty hare]

It's just face culling? If so, I feel pretty good about how I've set up custom blocks on my teams.

[sand gulch]

nah it's more than that

[hearty hare]

Damn.

[sand gulch]

custom blocks are going to be a lot slower

but again, we're looking at work to make them more performant

[proud haven]

shaped hitboxes

[hearty hare]

Well, godspeed to the team. I'm just glad we can use them at all.

[granite lynx]

If anything I think that would have the opposite effect haha

[sand gulch]

thankfully this area is just work. it isn't controversial like the molang and run_command conversations of late 😛

[proud haven]

If blocks become better = poggy happi :)

[storm rose]

I still see people trying to get block geo fixer

[proud haven]

Ugh, classic

[sand gulch]

no plans to make blocks bigger. the solution here is to data-drive a multi-block solution

[proud haven]

That's fair. I have no issues with 30x30 block sizes.

just that we can't have shaped collision and stair/fences support

[sand gulch]

ultimately Minecraft is a game about 1x1x1 cube blocks. so there's a lot of headwind that would keep us from being a general 3D engine.

[proud haven]

And, why do fences connect to customers blocks and not glass panes? Fences keeps connecting no matter the size of the custom block.

[sand gulch]

we definitely need to do better at letting you all create block types like fences, stairs, etc...

[granite lynx]

Does the breathability component still exist? If so I think that can control that

[proud haven]

The removed support for that component

[karmic sage]

They moved the functionality to the geometry compoentn

idk about the fence thing

[proud haven]

So... huh?

Glass panes refused to connect

But fences connect always

[proud haven]

Custom blocks should have a thing where other blocks like grass can replace it, and have top snow grow inside the block. (For top snow, we use tons of properties)

[karmic sage]

Yah we need a lot stuff

[proud haven]

inventory component

[karmic sage]

hey kayla make your github public and we will add it ourselves

[proud haven]

Items are pretty much done, we just can't make our own Shields, maps and books.

[thorn sandal]

I'm still baffled that we can't set an item to receive Trident enchantments

[slim marsh]

https://twitter.com/Prowl8413/status/1631464514020335617?cxt=HHwWgoCz3ZyVkKQtAAAA

Prowl8413 (@Prowl8413)

It's official! Mojang is no longer supporting RTX as a feature for Bedrock anymore.

They are marking major bugs, like the ones you see below and more, as "Won't fix"...

And they don't even care enough about the community to say anything about it.

Likes

575

Twitter · Mar 3, 2023, 1:20 AM

🤔

rtx life support team probably got pulled onto AGFX or something

[crystal breach]

Hes just rightfully pissed. Still kayla has confirmed that rtx while not worked on for vanilla gameplay it's still being worked on just not for comparability.

With any updates after 1.16

[proud haven]

It's clear that rtx doesn't fully work with 1.20 stuff.

You can see the lighting on the pots is a clear indication that the block doesn't have the textures for RTX

[rotund quail]

None of the blocks were meant to work according to Kayla. The users are supposed to handle that. Like the warden having mickey mouse ears

Likely why RTX won't work without a PBR pack. 😏

[crystal breach]

Exactly

[karmic sage]

The users can't fix not be able to apply rtx textures in the first place.

[limpid rapids]

Don’t forgot rtx being advertised on Xbox series X THREE YEARS AGO and they still don’t have it

[hoary galleon]

It was a tech demo

demo

[limpid rapids]

But remember that preview on series X where rtx was working fine

[hoary galleon]

Like how windows rtx is "fine"

[limpid rapids]

Haha

Fair

[proper delta]

Is this structure not wrong?

development_*_pack should be development_*_packs

[karmic sage]

Yah lol

[sand gulch]

And this is a lesson why graphics are bad on reference pages 🙂

[slim marsh]

just glancing at this what is the shulker vs chest difference supposed to be?

[fierce magnet]

I guess the the shulker is the folder same as the chest, but can be carrying around (like zipped/.mcpack and sent to anyone)? Idk, just random thought

[slim marsh]

oh that'd make sense

[scarlet drift]

Breathability is now determined by Material Instance.

[clever pasture]

Would love this. Currently working on a system for Geyser to put invisible collision blocks on top of custom fences so would definitely be nice if that were not needed xD

[gleaming cargo]

i already made one

with just a tpack

https://discord.gg/93aSefJJdZ

easy w

[rustic galleon]

Is there a way to open the editor with a .lnk instead of .url file?

[karmic narwhal]

idk how these files work so i cant tell you

but u can use basic shortcut

here

sorry this is wrong one

This one

[rustic galleon]

that is a .url, problem is it doesn't specify which app to run

you need to edit it in settings

[karmic narwhal]

ya, it does like you say, its bc its clled from same url base so pc dont know wich app to chosse or it already know

[rustic galleon]

I'd like to know if there is a way to launch is with the UWP-based .lnk

[karmic narwhal]

i will do some test but not sure if thats currently possible wichout minecraft:// base url