1.19.60.26 - Preview

[glass rivet]

https://feedback.minecraft.net/hc/en-us/articles/12150896518669-Minecraft-Beta-Preview-1-19-60-26

[fallen wyvern]

first

[thorny swan]

Yay

[fallen wyvern]

Release BlockPlacementFilterComponent outside of experimental toggle in JSON formats 1.19.60 and higher

[short locust]

SCOREBOARDS ALREADY

YES

[fallen wyvern]

what this means?

Reverted an experimental change to animation controller command deferral within the “Upcoming Creator Features” experiment

[soft surge]

YESSSSSS

[safe mantle]

what.

The UI no longer flickers on Android when the keyboard pops up```

[soft surge]

Scoreboards with GameTest 😱

[visual belfry]

Could be related to the changes they're making where commands run at the end of the tick.

[safe mantle]

Honestly that happened in 1.18, but not really in 1.19. I uh, double fixed?

I don't see flicking UI on stable anymore. well cool I guess

[sand timber]

how i can define dummy player in scoreboard objective

[echo wasp]

someone messed up scripting api changelog again as usual, gonna check the typings brb

[minor kernel]

FINALLY

[pulsar grotto]

I see duplicate logs

[regal brook]

Use a dummy player scoreboard identity?

[echo wasp]

funny enough you can’t create a scoreboard identity

[sand timber]

ya

[minor kernel]

Really hope they made more changes to OreUI

I can’t wait for the day mojang allows us to make our own UIs using and i know i said that a lot but I can’t wait

[regal brook]

Then I suppose you should initialize then beforehand. That may not be an option in all circumstances though

[pulsar grotto]

Ive seen people doubting that

I hope what you say actually happens

[high imp]

If they fixed the input delay bug, this will be a HUGE UPDATE

my friends deleted bedrock just because of input lag

lol

[echo wasp]

it’s a bit annoying but ig that would work

[high imp]

Can you tell me where is the minecraft-ui folder ?

[echo wasp]

what

[sand timber]

huh

[minor kernel]

Which one OreUI or JsonUI

[high imp]

OreUI

[minor kernel]

/data/gui/dist/hbui

[high imp]

okay thanks

[minor kernel]

Np

[visual belfry]

I know you could already do this, but the scoreboard additions to scripting will make those scoreboard sidebars you see on servers a lot easier to make.

[sand timber]

minecraft-ui lol

[sand timber]

yes, but there is that problem with dummy player identity

fike players*

or idk

[visual belfry]

Can't make those? Would be very problematic if you couldn't.

[sand timber]

i havent tried

[high imp]

Well I thought Ore UI folder was called minecraft-ui 😄

[sand timber]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[echo wasp]

required dependency:

• pc
• node
• react
• all mojang react modules
• html
• css
• js

[minor kernel]

Or they can allow us to create UIs using Beta API/Script API

[sand timber]

Creator API

[echo wasp]

oh wait no not js.
.jsx and .tsx

[honest folio]

What is BlockPlacementFilterComponent

[minor kernel]

You can use .js in react

[pulsar grotto]

that would probably require a lot of work

i believe the legacy scripting api had some hbui stuff

[high imp]

Java Edition: Java.

Bedrock Edition:
Engine: C++
Scripting: JavaScript
Add-ons: Json
UI: HTML, React, JS
Unofficial servers: Java, PHP

[rigid flame]

I see scoreboard methods 👀

[sand timber]

nope

that was dynamic JSON-UI

[pulsar grotto]

oh

[sand timber]

like JSON-UI

[pulsar grotto]

My bad

Sorry

[rigid flame]

It was direct HTML iirc

[sand timber]

thats OK, np man

[rigid flame]

Hummingbird UI should be React

[sand timber]

😂

[sand timber]

if both running on client then why react?

react is for server framework

[rigid flame]

Idk

That's what I remember so far

[minor kernel]

iirc HummingBird is the name of the framework they are using

[rigid flame]

Might be wrong

[minor kernel]

Mojang calls it OreUI

[high imp]

Imagine watching videos in-game thanks to Ore UI

[rigid flame]

What does it use internally though

[broken drift]

Scoreboard
Added setScore(ScoreboardObjective, ScoreboardIdentity, Number)
Added getScore(ScoreboardObjective, ScoreboardIdentity)
ScoreboardObjective
Added setScore(ScoreboardIdentity, Number)
Added getScore(ScoreboardIdentity)
Added removeParticipant(ScoreboardIdentity)
ScoreboardIdentity
Added setScore(ScoreboardObjective, Number)
Added getScore(ScoreboardObjective)
Added removeFromObjective(ScoreboardObjective)```
finally

[pulsar grotto]

gameface is the webview

i think

[minor kernel]

OreUI

[raven flare]

pok

[rigid flame]

That would be amazing if it is possible via OreUI

[echo wasp]

ye they did that internally with the touch control selection

[broken drift]

know we just need everything thing else

[pulsar grotto]

are hbui and gameface 2 different products?

[rigid flame]

I meant what does OreUI use internally, mb

[high imp]

That's true! Now they need to add to the marketplace for map trailers!

[echo wasp]

React

[rigid flame]

Oh

[sand timber]

can we create dummy/fake players? or u havent tried yet

[pulsar grotto]

when the touch controls screen was accessible in xbox the video didnt play

[broken drift]

you might with https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/minecraft/creator/scriptapi/minecraft/server-gametest/simulatedplayer#sendtestskin

[echo wasp]

oreui not scripting api

[broken drift]

i know

[minor kernel]

Watching videos in game using SimulatedPlayer? 🤣

[rigid flame]

Why use a simulated player

[broken drift]

you can pair it with mojang net and watch youtube

[short locust]

yay preview is already downloadable

[visual belfry]

Vanilla Java creators really just need Json and functions. However if you want to be on the bleeding edge, add fonts and GLSL.

[short locust]

time to obliterate runCommandAsync from my scripts

[rigid flame]

Lol

[broken drift]

you still cant do gamemodes or gamerules

[pulsar grotto]

funny how java gets resource pack shaders while bedrock removes them

[minor kernel]

Oh cool so the Preview is out

[broken drift]

or set item permisions

[rigid flame]

Waiting for the day when you can create custom dimensions

[sand timber]

ya, its on the way for my pc

[high imp]

custom biomes, dimenstions and features are came to Java first

[visual belfry]

In my eyes, they're a bandaid over missing features.

[high imp]

it's time for bedrock

[sand timber]

or just cutom commands

[rigid flame]

Oh and that

[minor kernel]

Custom Dimensions are China builds of the game

[rigid flame]

And off hand, and many more stuff

[sand timber]

cusotom dimensions never, bc of marketplace and low performed divices lol

[pulsar grotto]

bedrock?

[sand timber]

ya

[minor kernel]

Custom biomes are broken currently iirc

[rigid flame]

Why is there a China version of Bedrock

[pulsar grotto]

why not?

[ornate lynx]

Cuz China

[minor kernel]

For Chinese people

[pulsar grotto]

theres even chinese angry birds

[minor kernel]

There was a Chinese version of Fortnite

[short locust]

ahh now I need example documentation for the scoreboard api

is it attached to player

[high imp]

A friend told me that the China version has the following features: Custom effects, custom enchants, and add-ons in python language.

[short locust]

or is it a world.

[honest folio]

[ornate lynx]

Correct

But

[minor kernel]

Now end of convo this thread is for the Preview

[sand timber]

python bad :[

[ornate lynx]

Chuna is less dynamic

[pulsar grotto]

Oops

[rigid flame]

The what

[high imp]

they have both json and python

[visual belfry]

Because China has weird requirements for games and businesses.

[rigid flame]

[ornate lynx]

^

[sand timber]

and what about JS?

[ornate lynx]

No

[pulsar grotto]

Wooo new update

[high imp]

no probabily

[pulsar grotto]

very good update

[regal brook]

Scores are stored per world. You can access all scoreboard identities, including players

[broken drift]

print('why');

[pulsar grotto]

best update of 2023 yet

[high imp]

lol

[lone geode]

oh nice placement filer is out of experimental

[short locust]

so it is world.

[regal brook]

Yes, I just said that

[broken drift]

can you add a fake scoreboard participant

[sand timber]

imagine c++ server API

[sand timber]

i dont think so, not yet

[broken drift]

opk[efwpokefwkop[wefklpwefwef

[high imp]

Since China version have it, we also need custom enchants and effects.

[visual belfry]

Imagine native scripting.

[echo wasp]

Get fake player identity from other scoreboard objective and assign it to another scoreboard.

[broken drift]

you still have to run a command

[sand timber]

cant create

[echo wasp]

initialise it first with commands

[broken drift]

can ScoreboardIdentity be a string?

[echo wasp]

no

[broken drift]

for a db you still to have to have run a command every set/save

[high imp]

can someone check if they finally fixed the input delay

[regal brook]

Are you not able to?

[sand timber]

we will get it in the future (fake players) constructor

[visual belfry]

If it only works with players, it's funny that they only implemented the least used feature of scoreboards.

[broken drift]

this update only removed the delete fake player side not the addn so scoreboard dbs where buffed 50%

are they better than entites nametag or item idk

[minor kernel]

I don’t think i can because I don’t have input delay but happy to see that bug finally fixed

[paper kindle]

We also don’t have to use runCommandAsync to set scores, which is huge

[sand timber]

last is that fake player creation, and best db will e scoreboard one, in my opinion

[broken drift]

is Reverted an experimental change to animation controller command deferral within the “Upcoming Creator Features” experiment refing to hpow commands aare handled

[broken drift]

minus slow world loads due to a bug maby or how they store them

[sand timber]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

ya

[broken drift]

with caching speed doesnt realy matter other than save/set

[sand timber]

loading speed is that last speed what i looking on

[paper kindle]

Fantastic beta. Can’t wait for the release 👏

[broken drift]

still want every inventory acceabled

we cant we access most entites mainhand

[sand timber]

same, i am so excited of new features, ||Where is client scripting?||

[paper kindle]

[broken drift]

they might have to convert the entire game first

[soft surge]

I doubt input delay bug is fixed by this, but it could somewhat fix it. Input bug is caused by several systems failing to work, causing the system to be delayed. VSYNC could be the issue, but seeing that this bugfix was for another bug, I wouldn't have very high hopes

[high imp]

what you guys want to see in the scripting

[high imp]

yeah this is why I asked

[regal brook]

I sure hope the new scoreboard additions are thoroughly tested by the enthusiastic scripting folk 🙂

[soft surge]

I mean, it was after the fill command, one of the most asked command here

[eternal orbit]

I also don't experience input delay. I don't understand how this only affects some people. :/

What are the requirements?

[paper kindle]

Absolutely

[high imp]

do you have an ARM device ?

[soft surge]

Yeh. I used to have the input delay, but after changing some videosettings, it didn't happen (VSYNC off,, limiting my FPS, anti aliasing and texel low, etc.)

[eternal orbit]

Only android

[crude pond]

I observed it yesterday with anti-aliasing set above 4. Turning that setting alone down fixed it. Switching to V-Sync being off also can cause input delay.

[high imp]

I thought the input delay was causing only on windows

but I'm not sure

[eternal orbit]

I only heard of input delay on Windows too. I was just saying my Android is the only ARM device I have.

[paper kindle]

D’you think .60 will release next week?

[high imp]

ah okay

fun fact is that

I "sometimes" notice the input delay

[eternal orbit]

Hm. I'll have to try that. I always have AA disabled

[high imp]

while sometimes not

[sand timber]

Huh?

[echo wasp]

https://www.npmjs.com/package/@minecraft/server/v/1.1.0-beta.1.19.60-preview.26

[high imp]

what we need to understand here

[sand timber]

operator without commands?

op commands

and yes i have activated cheats

[eternal orbit]

That he'll never give you u

[soft surge]

Try another world @sand timber

[sand timber]

i will

[soft surge]

If it happens again, make a bugreport

[sand timber]

ik

[sand timber]

so i have refreshed permission like op>member > op and still same

i will try new world

[crude pond]

OMFG, I'm getting more that 72 FPS in Minecraft for the first time in forever.

It's a Christmas miracle!

[paper kindle]

[minor kernel]

YOO

[short locust]

dxdiag??/

[high imp]

OMG, I'm getting more than 500 fps, wow!

[minor kernel]

In game or the main menu?

[high imp]

I was joking

[sand timber]

me 31 fps lol, ||settings for quite pc||

[visual belfry]

I lock my FPS to 60 because if I don't, my PC starts working a lot more than it needs to (Fans start ramping up too).

I have a feeling it's not optimized for high core count CPUs.

[soft surge]

Even with my 3060 I don't get that in main menu

[sand timber]

same also i have old laptop lol

[crude pond]

Nothing interesting in the files except perhaps that tall grass got its own block loot table.

Well, there are a ton of developer client references (as always) in the UI files. I'm sure someone who's into that kinda stuff can look into that.

[high imp]

it's too strange that the game switched from PE to BE more than 5 years ago but in the game files it still called minecraftpe

[visual belfry]

Jira still calls it MCPE too.

[high imp]

yeah

[crude pond]

Oh, I should also note that getting into a world usually takes me ~26 seconds. I'm seeing world load times of <15 seconds in this Preview.

[high imp]

oh

[soft surge]

Changing the name would probably mess up a lot of the code

[high imp]

I turned off vsync

[short locust]

26 seconds? holy cow

I'd die of boredom if it took that long

[high imp]

Looks like this is a performance boost preview

[pulsar grotto]

Maybe they have big worlds

[paper kindle]

My worlds crash every other time I load them if I have any pack applied at all

[crude pond]

It's not even my computer. It's Minecraft. I went back to 1.16 the other day. World load times were like 3 seconds reliably.

It's pretty crazy how much performance we've lost on Bedrock.

I'm guessing… 1.18?

[hidden pasture]

@rigid flax the changelog doesn't mention the new debug command - https://github.com/ScriptAPIOSS/docs/commit/96b80da087331a2ab571b653a0a8e8783bb90bc6#diff-382809d835a430f590ebcf615ce23e0bd9a03e2ad13d5d506cc240dd978e2864R3369

[short locust]

hmm

anything change with structures?

all 8 of my structures just started getting errors saying they don't exist all of a sudden

[eternal orbit]

The.

What?

[high imp]

debug command ?

[hidden pasture]

script debug command

[short locust]

'

[hidden pasture]

doesn't look like it's meant to be secret, should be available to use

[eternal orbit]

Oh those? Those aren't new though.

[visual belfry]

Pretty sure that's been around for a while.

Let me check

[echo wasp]

it’s been there for like a few versions

[eternal orbit]

I used those a lot. They definitely aren't a part of this update.

[hidden pasture]

Weird, they've only just appeared in the commands dump...

you sure you're not using some kind of variant of the game? 👀

[eternal orbit]

What's the syntax.

[hidden pasture]

maybe it's just appeared in BDS

[echo wasp]

no it’s been in stable since 1.19

[eternal orbit]

Maybe

[hidden pasture]

weird.. I guess it was compiled out of BDS?

Still worth the changelog

[echo wasp]

no, but it can be enabled/disabled depending whether if you have gametest on/off

[high imp]

This preview maybe gave us more news about Render Dragon json files since we found some codes in the previous preview

Colored lighting?

[eternal orbit]

That was updates ago

I need to update and see if there's anything

[high imp]

Wasn't it in 1.19.60 previews?

[eternal orbit]

Yeah. I mean within the previews.

[high imp]

yeah check if there are news

[eternal orbit]

Imma eat first. My phone is also hungry.

[high imp]

lol

[echo wasp]

no cuz the script debugger command also comes with gametest debugger extension https://marketplace.visualstudio.com/items?itemName=mojang-studios.minecraft-debugger

[visual belfry]

My own documentation of the commands say it was added around 1.17.30.25.

[hidden pasture]

weirdddd. client or bds?

[visual belfry]

Client.

[hidden pasture]

Yeah I think it got compiled out accidentally

or maybe on purpose, realms...?

[echo wasp]

I mean they can be disabled with server properties

[visual belfry]

What's strange is that last preview, I couldn't even get /script to show up.

[hidden pasture]

This is why we can't have nice things

Data miners out here

[umbral crescent]

mb should I delete?

[hidden pasture]

🤷‍♂️

[rigid flax]

sounds like this is a false alarm? Ben just not keeping up with changelists?

[umbral crescent]

here i'll get rid of it, don't want to ruffle any feathers

[soft surge]

Happy preview day Kayla \o/

[hidden pasture]

Nah it was 100% a new addition to the docs dump, we're just thinking it was maybe compiled out for BDS

[rigid flax]

Happy Preview Day everyone!

[brittle patio]

eh, i will delete it tbh

[hidden pasture]

Happy preview day Kayla!

Bet MS headquarters is always buzzing on wednesdays

[visual belfry]

You can't delete my memories.

[umbral crescent]

Happy Preview Day!

[crude pond]

No update to preview branch, huh?

I'm guessing there's nothing to see anyway.

[paper kindle]

Any ETA for when .60 will release?

[brittle patio]

no

[paper kindle]

Sadge

[brittle patio]

the wandering trader trade and tropical fish json file is still in the wrong folder

[crude pond]

What's the most Previews we've ever had for a minor release?

[brittle patio]

for ref

[brittle patio]

1.16.210

[umbral crescent]

the normal cadence is a bit disturbed by holidays existing, so you can't even really predict well this time round.

[brittle patio]

the tropicalfish.json one are supposed to be in the spawn_rules folder and the wandering_trader_trades.json are supposed to be in the trading/economy_trades folder

actually, i just gonna create a bug report

[high imp]

Happy preview day! I will be very happy if one day the OreUI and Render Dragon team will come here to discuss/Q&A with us

[rigid flax]

maybe one day when there's something to talk about!

[high imp]

Do you think if we will be able to edit OreUI this year ?

[visual belfry]

Yesn't

[high imp]

Yesn't

[umbral crescent]

not quite... hummingbird is the older version. Gameface is the sequel, so to speak, that they use right now.
oreUI itself is a react components library designed to work on Gameface, web, CEF, etc.

[umbral crescent]

you already can, if you know the right techniques :D
been possible to play around since the 1.16.200 days at least
though the code's overall structure in minified form seems to shift a bit every couple minor releases

[severe basin]

When 1.16.100+ blocks come out of EXP hopefully they will add more stuff.

Nice beta overall.

Okay bye

[high imp]

But I mean within the resource pack, not the game files

So we can distribute to everyone

[umbral crescent]

🤷‍♂️ who knows when that'll happen

[high imp]

we can create shaders with render dragon too

but only with editing the game files

there is a special render dragon discord server where they distribute the render dragon shaders

I tested and it works nice so far

but it is in beta

[pulsar grotto]

does it start with a y?

[high imp]

a y ? no

[pulsar grotto]

oh nvm

[high imp]

it starts with Ye

[minor kernel]

Got it

[umbral crescent]

we're talking about programmers here :P Axiomatically, names are never perfect

[minor kernel]

VSync enabled: Locked at 60 FPS
VSync Disabled: Locked at 120 FPS

[gentle crypt]

.getParticipants.find -> ScoreboardIdentity

[broken drift]

Thats how you get it not define it

[gentle crypt]

Yes

[broken drift]

Someone should check if properties on the player are still faster then scores with the set api

[short locust]

setScore is bugged

It only sets the new scoreboard value after the world has been exited

[broken drift]

Great

[sand timber]

i will try give me sec

[bronze oyster]

Uhhh, anyone else notice the new block loot table for tallgtass

[broken drift]

ill msg dark after I test

It

[short locust]

oh

it's working but it isn't

It's a display bug

[paper kindle]

Scoreboard through script tho

[brittle patio]

first time seeing that on a block

content btw:

  "pools": [
    {
      "rolls": 1,
      "entries": [
        {
          "type": "item",
          "name": "minecraft:wheat_seeds",
          "weight": 1
        },
        {
          "type": "empty",
          "weight": 7
        }
      ]
    }
  ]
}```

[bronze oyster]

Yeah, finally we can edit block loot tablr? Kayla pls

[crude pond]

#1062772907954155580 message

😛

[brittle patio]

there is actually a parity issue regarding that drop, it's quite minor but it was fixed way back in Java's Buzzy Bees update

[short locust]

The bug is that/scoreboard objectives setdisplay does not update until the world has been reloaded

The scoreboard IS being updated though

[bronze oyster]

Haha, curse my poor eye vision

[short locust]

scoreboard and an associated value that uses that score.

[brittle patio]

It's this one. Bedrock parity ticket: https://bugs.mojang.com/browse/MCPE-126947

[short locust]

after hitting an entity

[bronze oyster]

Wait, are tallgrass the normal ones or the tall spruce ones?

[short locust]

on world reload

[brittle patio]

idk quite complicated

bedrock ids for tallgrass are like into one

[bronze oyster]

Programming naming convention be like

[sand timber]

problem is that, Script is server sided at all, and scoreboard changes aren´t synced with clients when u use Script API, commands always sync with clients when they are used, like /op and setOp

[short locust]

that's problematic

[bronze oyster]

Well, I expect to see .70 in Feb

[brittle patio]

.70 dev should start in Feb, not next week imo

There is actually one issue that they should be fixed by now in the beta

[bronze oyster]

totally not a perfect opportunity to introduce editor mode since its a new cycle

[bronze oyster]

Which is

[sand timber]

Seee

[brittle patio]

i hate the fact that people haven't verified if the fixes is applied or not during the whole development and the team went like "oh it is fixed!"

stop adding weight on my back plz

i'm not your mother watching lil bugs

[bronze oyster]

Wai

[short locust]

good thing I don't display anything like that

[echo wasp]

It’s either very specific or very simplistic

[short locust]

but that ruins the use case for it for anyone who displays things with scoreboard objective display

they'll have to still use runCommandAsync Ig

[broken drift]

Still

[sand timber]

u can clearDisplaySlot and then show it again for sync with clients

[broken drift]

It still should update

[sand timber]

ya, but that´s best what we can do now

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[nimble harbor]

Where is the shears check?

[gentle crypt]

Client side script api rn

[sand timber]

i dont think so

[gentle crypt]

i think so

[paper kindle]

Oh, so scoreboards do update, just not client side?

Like display slots

[short locust]

yeah

[paper kindle]

Epic

So it’s only slightly broken, not fully broken.

[short locust]

yeah, still works

[eternal orbit]

Anyone else noticed you can't see your custom skin in-game?

[visual belfry]

Can confirm. I don't see my skin or cape. I'm just using a regular skin and not one made through persona.

[eternal orbit]

I already filed a bug report. Want a link?

https://bugs.mojang.com/browse/MCPE-165965

[strange sigil]

Lol first they break custom materials for players, now they break skins in general :p

[knotty elm]

Yeah, there was a lot of concern about running commands from an ac breaking nearly all marketplace content I believe

[knotty elm]

https://react-facet.mojang.com/

[rigid flax]

yeah we got some pretty strong feedback on this change, and reverted it.

[honest folio]

I thinks alot of big changes are difficult to make due to how much they change about existing packs

I don't really do any scripting stuff but from one person I know who does a lot of scripting for an Addon some of the large changes can be a bit annoying at first

Although with such a large user base it's impossible to find a compromise for everyone

And it is an experimental feature for a reason I suppose

[ashen burrow]

Wait, so is OreUI in the preview?

[umbral crescent]

oreUI has been in release since 1.16

currently production has:
~ the new announcements modal
~ achievements
~ create new world
~ some other smol modals

iirc

[ashen burrow]

Ugh, I am so behind

Is there a place I can go to learn it?

And where can I look at the production instances of it being used?

[eternal orbit]

Simple. By playing the game. Most people have access to the create new world screen. If you go touch settings, there's a button that takes you to a menu to change touch controls. And so on.

[ashen burrow]

Sorry, where can I look at the actual jsx files?

[umbral crescent]

data/gui/hbui

not jsx, compiled minified react

[modern arrow]

setScore

wow

[minor kernel]

It’s actually data/gui/dist/hbui

[umbral crescent]

mb, dropped a folder

[sand timber]

next bate will be still 1.19.60 i guess

[minor kernel]

U sure? Most minor updates have around 5 or 6 Betas/Previews, i still haven’t found a minor update with 7 Betas/Previews

[sand timber]

i sure up to 83%

#879773489601585244 message

[minor kernel]

I could be wrong, you never know 🤷‍♂️

All we have to do is just wait

[sand timber]

👍

[brittle patio]

I think 1.19.60 is a special case like 1.16.210 and 1.18.10 since it got across the holiday period and rarely seeing a January release so...

[brittle patio]

1.18.10 has 7 betas and 1.16.210 has 11

[minor kernel]

I looked only at 1.19

[minor kernel]

Thats why i said i could be wrong

[brittle patio]

Quite unfair tho because the previous 1.19.x cycle doesn't have holiday split in between them

[high imp]

So did you able to check?

[eternal orbit]

Yeah. No new files in that regard.

[obsidian venture]

does that mean theres no longer an input delay of 7 weeks

[knotty elm]

1.16.210 is kind of different because it did not use the new versioning system

[gentle crypt]

What's that? I don't have permissions to see it 😭

[knotty elm]

It's a link to BedrockOSS discord

[echo wasp]

he's banned lol

[knotty elm]

lmfao

[minor kernel]

You are not in the server

[gentle crypt]

Ik

Send pic 😭

[minor kernel]

https://discord.gg/XjV87YN

[gentle crypt]

XD

[gentle crypt]

Nah i don't want to join that sh1t server

I can join with an alt

But i don't want to

[gentle crypt]

I assumed it was Bedrock Oss when it wouldn't let me see the link lol

[gentle crypt]

Tysm you good

[minor kernel]

No problem!

[knotty elm]

But you want to see what was said there, which means you do want to join by extension to be able to see haha

[crude pond]

Oh. I guess that means we can't expect 1.19.60's release until late this month or even February.

[thorny swan]

Nice

[minor kernel]

Yes, and i hope that 1.19.70 will bring a lot of content

[honest folio]

Minecraft trial is INsane

[minor kernel]

It’s the Trial for Chromebooks

[honest folio]

I can tell

Is that new?

I never heard it b4

[minor kernel]

Yes it is, it got added in 1.19.60.26 which is the latest Beta/Preview

[honest folio]

Cool

I wanna try it

[honest folio]

I ain't see it in the changelog

[minor kernel]

That’s because Mojang adds some stuff to the game without mentioning them in the changelog

[honest folio]

Damn

Where can you get it?

[gentle crypt]

Nah, I knew it was something some Minecraft developer like Darknavi had said, that's just why I wanted to see it lmao

I will not say the same thing that I told you there because this server does matter to me

💀

[minor kernel]

I think they haven’t released it yet because they didn’t announce it

[honest folio]

Damn

[high imp]

Mojang has the win32 Bedrock

screenshot from this video https://youtu.be/2X8oVJUyqo4

[eternal orbit]

I thought that always existed

Wasn't that how we circumvented render dragon?

[minor kernel]

No

[eternal orbit]

What did we use?

[minor kernel]

x32 version of the game

[eternal orbit]

Oh wait! I see. Win32 is different from UWP.

[minor kernel]

Yes

[high imp]

yep

it is not related to render dragon

Mojang rewrote a lot of things about Bedrock

Graphics (Render Dragon), UI (OreUI), next step I would love to see it's to switch from UWP to Win32

[minor kernel]

They will probably never switch from UWP but i would love to see them releasing Win32 versions of the game

[echo wasp]

nah that will probably bypass the paywall

I'm guessing they use win32 because it's easier to build and debug the game

[pulsar grotto]

An rtx 3070 and only 20 fps

[minor kernel]

Lol i’ve noticed that too

[visual belfry]

It also works on Xbox. I believe Xbox requires games to be UWP.

[sand timber]

ya Universal Windows Platform so its compatible with xbox, Windows, Windows Phone, Windows 8.1, also its more secured

like for instaling is more secured

[visual belfry]

Windows Phone 😅

[sand timber]

🥹

[minor kernel]

I don’t think Windows Phone supports UWP

But maybe it does

[visual belfry]

It does.

[sand timber]

It has also Windows Runtime

not sys32

but Windows Runtime (WR)

👍

[nimble harbor]

I would love a win32 version of bedrock. I can't stand UWP. UWP apps put their files in the most psychotic place possible, never support symlinks, die when you minimize them, and don't support multiple instances. How annoying

[sand timber]

actualy they can create UWP versions with multiple instalaces and also minimize suspending could be disabled on PC versions

[minor kernel]

I saw someone on twitter tweet about a bug in the game where you can play on Bedrock Edition even if you don’t own it

[sand timber]

but its one build for all WPlatforms

[minor kernel]

That bug will probably be fixed soon

[echo wasp]

you can play trial version, unless you meant the full game

[minor kernel]

According to this tweet: https://twitter.com/max_rm_/status/1603704662305251328?s=46&t=gA_WxGjUAKXyKlY35VU_eg
Even if you download the Trial version of the game you will get full access to everything

[brittle patio]

It's still WIP so not final

[pulsar grotto]

The xbox version isnt uwp anymore

[sand timber]

xbox is only uwp same for Windows Phone

both cant run basic win32

[pulsar grotto]

isnt it using gdk now?

Nvm

i have no idea about this stuff

[strong rose]

YASSSS

[umbral crescent]

no? It also supports something similar but not quite like appxs via gamecore based xvcs (which is what mc uses)

[sand timber]

MC uses UWP packaging for xbox rn

there also Windows APIs for some kind of application for xbox

[umbral crescent]

that is not correct. At the very least for preview, i haven't checked release in a while

[sand timber]

🤔

thats weird

[pulsar grotto]

They changed it for release since october 5th

Theres 2 versions of bedrock for xbox now

[high imp]

Yes

Xbox version recently switch from UWP to GDK version

Maybe they want to rollout to all platforms slowly?

[sand timber]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[umbral crescent]

Well, windows doesn't do xvcs

xvcs are based off of the xbox's hypervisor-layers system

the xvc contains the os and the app - in the case of mc the lightweight GameOS iirc (hence GameCore) - all the layers of the xbox are just various flavored versions of windows

on windows desktop you can choose between misxvc and uwp as far as ms packaging goes

dungeons does the former, mc the latter at the moment

[sand timber]

i get like 1.5x more fps in this preview cool

[umbral crescent]

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