General Discussion

[wet shell]

Tomorrow

[lapis sierra]

ok

[charred geode]

but why will it take 2 weeks? releases happen randomly in any day.

[rough path]

Usually occurs two weeks after a new cycle begins on a tuesday

[charred geode]

those are releases and previews pushed in the same day

[rough path]

When we say releases we dont mean hotfixes

[charred geode]

1.20.60 wasn't a hot fix

[rough path]

Im so confused, your screenshots are proving my point though

.22 is the 3rd installemnet for the 1.20.70 preview cycle, hence two weeks after 1.20.70 began. 1.20.60 was released two weeks after 1.20.70 began

[charred geode]

it doesn't matter much anyway, even if 1.20.70 got released tomorrow i can still delay patching my addon by a week

[celest sluice]

What?

[rough path]

Creative only it appears

https://twitter.com/ibxtoycat/status/1762895012415570242

Andrew (Toycat) (@ibxtoycat) on X

"Mojang recently began work on Hardcore worlds for Bedrock and are working to eliminate bugs. Hardcore in Bedrock will remain in testing until the team feels confident that the experience will be just as smooth for players on Bedrock as it currently is on Java"

HARDCORE IS…

Twitter · Feb 28, 2024, 5:38 PM

Tada

[toxic horizon]

hmm

[limber tiger]

where did this came from?

[rough path]

I have a feeling where, but I cant disclose due to my

[limber tiger]

Okay but where did this information and quote come from

[rough path]

😐 Dog I just said it's

[limber tiger]

aah it was a reply to me

[hasty grotto]

probably some secret place us peasants cant see

[limber tiger]

My bad

[rough path]

But fortunately seems like they've given permissions to disclose about it

[hoary forge]

Damn

[limber tiger]

We won't see it until a while if they just started dev on it

https://x.com/ibxtoycat/status/1762895446077259952?s=20

make sense

[chrome plover]

https://twitter.com/minecraft0news_/status/1762898746935767253 💀

Minecraft News (@minecraft0news_) on X

⚡Hardcore Mode is coming out to a new #Minecraft: Bedrock Edition Beta/Preview version tomorrow!

Source: @ibxtoycat

Twitter · Feb 28, 2024, 5:53 PM

[rough path]

...

[toxic horizon]

💀

[heady sable]

Dude couldn't wait

[quasi wedge]

[hoary forge]

yeets self from the window

[wet shell]

Whyy

He deleted it

Lol

[rough path]

https://github.com/MicrosoftDocs/minecraft-creator/commits/main/ whoo! Docs fixes

[plush wedge]

Nah this is just item stack components. I wouldn't expect to see item type components for a while in Java

[wet shell]

uhhhh https://x.com/ibxtoycat/status/1762893411567247511?s=20

Andrew (Toycat) (@ibxtoycat) on X

Minecraft just made a HUGE announcement about bedrock, I'm working on seeing if we're allowed to share this right now :)

Twitter · Feb 28, 2024, 5:31 PM

first marketplace addons what now?

[rough path]

Scroll up in this channel

[wet shell]

hardcore i guess

🤷‍♂️

i’d rather have deferred announcement on minecraft yt

[stiff carbon]

hardcore mode

ecko already posted about it

[obsidian lark]

It's more like they broke every datapack and a few things are impossible now.

[quasi wedge]

Are datapacks not versioned?

[languid tinsel]

yay doc fixes!

[magic fossil]

Preview day soon

[rough path]

@west storm

[west storm]

2nd week of skipping Deferred updates, they're working on something big that means

[rough path]

XD not everything is deferred lol

[west storm]

Yeah I know but last week's beta changelog didn't include any changes to deferred, and Java got Dog Armour changes today, 1 week delay again, also happened with Wind charges, but it's fine they're working on deferred too

[heady sable]

Last week changelog was a smaller beta which usually means no new content and they are wrapping up the cycle. Wait until 1.20.80 cycle starts to see new deferred changes (though that is not guaranteed)

Also Preview will be tomorrow, see: https://fxtwitter.com/minecraft/status/1762871012608111052?s=46&t=LgAKDuPwA2XUPI-eYAYXzw

[obsidian lark]

Nope.

"Backwards compatibility" on Java is running the old version.

[rough path]

Haha

[carmine kettle]

Saying data packs are not versioned is not strictly true either—they do have a version number, and it does affect how the pack loads

They just don't keep backward compatibility and often include breaking changes

[devout barn]

1.20.80 preview tomorrow seems likely I think
Since wolf armor changes will come in a preview tomorrow
And Hardcore has been announced for Bedrock, which I assume to be coming in experimental very soon, maybe even tomorrow

[devout barn]

and the pack numbers are harder to keep up with
No X.X.X numbers... just X lol

[carmine kettle]

Where was hardcore announced?

[toxic horizon]

There was this
https://twitter.com/ibxtoycat/status/1762895012415570242

Andrew (Toycat) (@ibxtoycat) on X

"Mojang recently began work on Hardcore worlds for Bedrock and are working to eliminate bugs. Hardcore in Bedrock will remain in testing until the team feels confident that the experience will be just as smooth for players on Bedrock as it currently is on Java"

HARDCORE IS…

Twitter · Feb 28, 2024, 5:38 PM

don't know what other things have been said about it

Don't know where he even got the info from I think

[rough path]

From channels is all I can say

[plush wedge]

Dang only 4,535 days to port that feature, must be a new record!

[quasi wedge]

Wonder how many random death bug fixes we'll see

Because I thought the major ones had been fixed about a year ago

[wet shell]

imagine hardcore releases the same time as deferred

[toxic horizon]

Haven't actually got any random damage, neither has anyone I know

well, actually

unless they're flying and stop flying

like if they land smoothly, they'd still sometimes take damage

[quasi wedge]

The big one was random damage building up on scaffolding

[toxic horizon]

oh, another big one they fixed I think is damage not registering, then that damage being applied at another time you take damage

Like if you fell but didn't take damage

[devout barn]

the hardcore hearts will be extra shiny

[wet shell]

Wait a minute

This gives me an idea

What if mojang made a major update specifically for bedrock where they add deferred and hardcore

And other parity things

Like better together 2.0 or something

Idk

Just an idea

[celest sluice]

Many were fixed in 1.20.60

[charred ocean]

yes

here are some of the bug reports of those bugs

https://bugs.mojang.com/browse/MCPE-168518

https://bugs.mojang.com/browse/MCPE-120140

https://bugs.mojang.com/browse/MCPE-175791

https://bugs.mojang.com/browse/MCPE-170522

hope this helps

[heady sable]

MCPE-120140 is listed 3 times

[plucky cliff]

I want to see what new will come to scripts 1.10 beta 👀
Btw I want lives to get ruined and Mojang should introduce life breaker 2.x.x script update by end of 2024

[charred ocean]

yeah my bad.

didn't notice that 3 bug reports resulted to be under one.

[west storm]

I don't how people managed to get bugs like that, I never experienced those Random death bugs neither on Android nor on Windows in the last 8 years, most of the victims of that bugs were either unlucky or playing on a console💀, I think consoles have skill issues with processing server side of Minecraft, because the Desync bugs happen when the world lags and TPS drops

And then Java players get a reason to call it Bugrock, failing to understand that Bedrock is Multiplatform

[west storm]

Some were fixed in 1.20.60 and some were fixed in the last 2 years, and as Mojang stated they're gonna hunt down every single random death bug before implementing hardcore

[past wharf]

The worst for me is that Java players judge a game with mods made by the community. It always has been something I don't understand

[rough path]

Copying this from Twitter:
1.19.80 began on March 8th 2023. Could we see 1.20.80 today or next week? If so, will it be our last 1.20.XX cycle before we move to the 1.21.XX cycle?

[toxic horizon]

to be fair to the Bedrock devs, the modding & add-on community has been getting very good recently

Like they've done a lot of work in not a lot of time to make the API's very good and people can nearly make Java level stuff from add-ons, some people have made Java level mods from add-ons

[past wharf]

Not necessarely about bedrock, the fact that they and also Minecraft use mods like an argument for the game whereas it is ≈ 100% community related. People with their comparaisons should compare add-ons power with data packs power and not add-ons power with java mods power
The Minecraft Java community has always been matrixed by mods to the point that they consider mods as an element of their game, I tolerate that but what I do not tolerate is that they make it an element of comparison with the other game

[charred ocean]

Wait. I seen it on twitter thinking it was 1.20.80 in the first letter. Then i realised it's 1.19.80 lol

[toxic horizon]

fair

[charred ocean]

yeah

although bedrock addons are basically a mix of java's datapacks and mods combined.

(basically not needing any mod loader to load up mods. Just straight up in game)

[past wharf]

Afterwards you are the technical community so you probably (99,99999999999%) know it

[toxic horizon]

Currenty add-ons aren't on level with Java mod power

they probably won't ever be because it's not C++ being used to do add-ons

But add-ons are still very good in what they can do

Yes, it is very annoying seeing/hearing Java players compare their mods to our add-ons

Our add-ons used to be primitive compared to Java mods, but they've gotten a lot better

[celest sluice]

There's a lot of things to look forward to as well

[toxic horizon]

We have our own Scripting API now which allows us to make even better stuff

[toxic horizon]

exactly

Add-on APIs are nowhere near complete yet

[magic fossil]

we already have Javascript an actual programming language

[magic fossil]

Yessssir

[toxic horizon]

yes, but the APi isn't complete yet

[magic fossil]

Exactly and who said they aren't going for something like a c# or c++ api next ?

[celest sluice]

And it's more of an interface to what Mojang allows us to modify. Mods have no such restrictions

[toxic horizon]

and it won't be as fast as using C++ because JavaScript still has to be compiled into compatible code

[toxic horizon]

ye

And with Add-ons, people can actually make money

Unlike Java which, I don't know if they can

Im pretty sure from like Forge they can

[past wharf]

You can't sell data packs ?

[toxic horizon]

no

[magic fossil]

No

[past wharf]

Weird

[celest sluice]

Can you sell texture packs?

[magic fossil]

datapacks are for now basically only command bundles

[toxic horizon]

wait sell?

[rich vault]

Pretty sure add-ons can't be sold either. EULA is the same

[toxic horizon]

I thought you meant steal lol

[toxic horizon]

On the Marketplace they can

[magic fossil]

they are also intended only for mapmakers to make maps easier without needing shit tons of command blocks

[toxic horizon]

But outside of the marketplace, no

[rich vault]

I mean by hobbyists, like on java

[magic fossil]

Ever heard of JIT ?

[celest sluice]

Not all platforms support it 😔

[magic fossil]

JIT in Add-Ons is the only black magic we need to do everything

[toxic horizon]

no, can you explain what it is?

Is that the compiler?

[magic fossil]

It compiles Javascript code directly into machine code

[rich vault]

*not exclusive to JS

[magic fossil]

making it almost as fast as c++ code ,making our resource burden being almost null

[charred ocean]

oh yes. For ex.
https://www.planetminecraft.com/data-pack/minecraft-but-pigs-teleport-you/

[toxic horizon]

interesting

[toxic horizon]

It's the whole JVM range isn't it? Like Rust, Kotlin, etc?

[magic fossil]

Yeah ,datapacks api is made for mapmakers

Actually ,not an api

[charred ocean]

yeah. Not an api ig

[magic fossil]

They dont have anything other than commands on tick json

[toxic horizon]

it's still an API isn't it?

[charred ocean]

i have more datapacks on my pc but haven't uploaded em

[toxic horizon]

Datapacks do have more than commands?

[magic fossil]

.

[celest sluice]

Data packs are more than commands though

[rich vault]

^ they have vanilla shaders

[magic fossil]

its just commands minus command block being execute in the background

[celest sluice]

You underestimate data packd

[toxic horizon]

in the snapshot yesterday they changed a lot of stuff from NBT

[charred ocean]

they do accept java code as well to execute since it is being made on a code editor

or let's say an IDLE

[magic fossil]

Yeah because bedrock commands are trash

😦

[celest sluice]

What? What features use that?

[toxic horizon]

Datapacks has components, like our JSON files

They used NBT

[charred ocean]

Basically what commands do. But you can also use in form of code as well

[celest sluice]

I don't recall data packs being able to use Java code

[toxic horizon]

Here's a list of new components and changes in the new snapshot https://feedback.minecraft.net/hc/en-us/articles/24531969592077-Minecraft-Java-Edition-Snapshot-24w09a

[past wharf]

Only thing I prefer it is the shorcuts like /gamemode c
It should be in java too

[magic fossil]

Don't be confuse ,it's java code being "compile' into .mcfunction files and commands

[celest sluice]

And stuff like /music /fog /playanimation

[magic fossil]

Yeah ,those are java commands tho

Our commands sucks so much 😦

[toxic horizon]

those aren't

[magic fossil]

we are stuck with their 1.13 commands syntax

[past wharf]

/camera

[toxic horizon]

I've seen some people using the math function in commands,

[celest sluice]

Pretty sure those are parts of Java commands

[toxic horizon]

all of these have been in commands?

[charred ocean]

you can put this code under a json file and put it in a datapack to run

    "type": "minecraft:crafting_shaped",
    "pattern": [
        "###",
        "# #",
        "# #"
    ],
    "key": {
        "#": {
            "item": "minecraft:oak_planks"
        }
    },
    "result": {
        "item": "minecraft:leather_leggings",
        "count": 1
    }
}```

[celest sluice]

Yes

[magic fossil]

Yes

[charred ocean]

^^^

[celest sluice]

Think of them like the components used in our give item commands

[magic fossil]

They are commands ,like i said their commands are MUCH more powerful than ours

[charred ocean]

yeah

[magic fossil]

they can modify nbts with commands

[charred ocean]

true

[celest sluice]

Yeah like that

[toxic horizon]

ye, but they're removing NBT's from datapakcs aren't they? Isn't that what the new syntaxes and changes are?

[magic fossil]

datapack commands are like their own langiage

[magic fossil]

yeah yeah

they are using something similar to our command syntax now

[toxic horizon]

and moving to JSON?

[charred ocean]

it's actually considered coding when you can put commands in a datapack as well :D

[celest sluice]

JSON used in commands yes

[toxic horizon]

ok

[magic fossil]

No they aren't moving to JSOn,they are adding them to commands syntax

[magic fossil]

mcfunctions counts as a lang on github i mean XF

Their purpose ,origin and intentons are different so you cant really compare

Datapack = Commands Bundle for map makers so they won't ever need for a space in their world for thousands of commands blocks and you can use the commands you write between worlds

Add-Ons:official "Modding API" for the game that inspire to make up for Bedrock lack of a "Forge"

[charred ocean]

oh yes. But what im telling is about actual coding thing i said

lol

[magic fossil]

the ONLY reason the Script API exist is because we don't and will never have a third party Modding API like Forge or Fabric

make in mind the original name for the scripting api is the 'official modding api' and is still sometimes used

[past wharf]

Mmhh I still think the comparaison between data packs and add-ons is better than the comparaison between mods and add-ons because both are build in the real game and permit to customize it.

That was why I complained before*

[magic fossil]

Still they are made with different purpose,intention in mind and expectation along with end goals being different.

in other words...not comparable

[charred ocean]

also yeah i kinda like the datapack system tbh

it makes the world itself a command block all around technically

[magic fossil]

I respectfully disagree ,add-ons are more comparable to mods than with datapacks because the addon api was developed with the end goal in mind to being an official modding api for bedrock....

[celest sluice]

*cough* amethyst

[charred ocean]

kinda sad that nbt got thrown out in java snapshot yesterday. Curious what/how the new is and it how it works

[charred ocean]

yeah. Left it in a corner lmao

seems like i could make a meme wait a sec

[toxic horizon]

Amethyst is doing very well for the limited resources it can use

they're just making their own stuff resources to build on

[charred ocean]

there

[toxic horizon]

Don't you need to learn C++ for Amethyst?

I don't think Freddie has implemented any kind of support for other languages atm

[charred ocean]

hm

[sonic musk]

I am sorry but we gotta cry for a little more
amethyst still needs a long way to go for now

[charred ocean]

he has twitter account but ain't using it anymore as he did delete it from his personal devices

[toxic horizon]

he has a Discord for the Project

They're up to v2.2 atm

[charred ocean]

yeah

also

https://twitter.com/NikMC01/status/1763211861603086701?s=19

NikMC (@NikMC01) on X

For all the minecraft bedrock modding communities out there

Twitter · Feb 29, 2024, 2:37 PM

[lethal pumice]

beta day is today amirite?

[celest sluice]

Yeah

Let's see what they got

[sonic musk]

incoming

• Fixed a variety of crashes that could occur during gameplay

[magic fossil]

Amethyst mods ares not cross-platformable tho

[celest sluice]

?

[stoic orchid]

Preview Notes:

• as requested by the community, all creator features are being held back until 1.22

[celest sluice]

Oh phew I thought it was bad news

[rough path]

🥳 whooo, HCF lives on

[stoic orchid]

nope - just me being a jerk

[toxic horizon]

woo

[rough path]

The year is 2026, HCF is still a toggle

[toxic horizon]

Everything we ever wanted in 1.22 😀

[chrome plover]

data driven toggles when?

[rough path]

Looking forward to the docs fix update today 😄

[toxic horizon]

lol

[rich vault]

https://tenor.com/view/yippee-happy-yippee-creature-yippee-meme-yippee-gif-gif-1489386840712152603

[magic fossil]

Woo Hoo

No changes until 1.22 !

[magic fossil]

you'd have to try harder

:3

[celest sluice]

JSON UI:

[sonic musk]

so new preview today : )

[celest sluice]

You misspelled "no"

[stoic orchid]

yeah we should be good for a preview today

[celest sluice]

Dang you couldn't play along? 🥹

[sonic musk]

creator features.
I don't think optimizations counts

[stoic orchid]

uhh I mean... no preview, ever?

[celest sluice]

Thanks

[prisma niche]

Small preview

[toxic horizon]

damn

[stoic orchid]

small but scrappy

[sonic musk]

so new beta then : )

[magic fossil]

are previews and snapshots always suppose to be close to eachother ?

[celest sluice]

Dang it you got around it

[magic fossil]

yes.... 😦

[stoic orchid]

I don't have a lot of connection with the Java folks (due to timezones and stuff), but what I've seen is for big Vanilla changes, they try to line up the release of Bedrock Previews and Java snapshots.

[magic fossil]

I can tell because the java devs yesterday at Minecraft Commands at snapshot release was like "who is kayla"?

[toxic horizon]

On Monday someone that works for the scripting part was asking about some bugs for scripts, the wording he used though seemed like it was for this week, then he edited the message after to remove that part

so hopefully new stable today?

[stoic orchid]

Sliced knows me. Agnes knows me. A few of them KNOW ME! I swear.

[celest sluice]

😂

[sonic musk]

We know you.

[celest sluice]

We don't count

[toxic horizon]

damn 😔

[stoic orchid]

https://tenor.com/view/got-game-of-thrones-you-know-nothing-jon-snow-ygritte-gif-14613130

[toxic horizon]

Why am I reading that in a Scottish accent

[eternal shoal]

[toxic horizon]

"you knuw nuting Jon Snuw"

[magic fossil]

Have you heard of Gegy tho 🤔 ?

[celest sluice]

They have scottish vibes

[stoic orchid]

Of course

[toxic horizon]

I've never seen the show or anything about it xD

[magic fossil]

false... !

[celest sluice]

Just the way they look

They look... scottish

[toxic horizon]

ye, the woman looks scottish

[magic fossil]

Boq ? 🤔

[toxic horizon]

or maybe a Brummie

[stoic orchid]

nope

[celest sluice]

Who's that?

[stoic orchid]

Where do you all interact with Java devs?

[magic fossil]

Java team developer

[toxic horizon]

who is Boq?

[magic fossil]

Minecraft Commands ,they even have your own equivilant there

[rough path]

Kayla waking up at 3am to hop into a meeting with sweden team

[stoic orchid]

Who is my equivilent. I'm interested 🙂

[magic fossil]

idk ,because they seems to be structure very different from you guys at bedrock team

[toxic horizon]

named kaylia?

[rough path]

ChatGPT?

[celest sluice]

You say there's an equivalent but can't name them?

[magic fossil]

idk.... XD the random mojangsters that lurks in the chat ?

[hasty grotto]

dang

[toxic horizon]

There's a lot of Mojangsters here who lurk xD

[magic fossil]

no ,they will wake up at 3am to meet with the american team

[stoic orchid]

wow, harsh. I never expected to be called out as a lurker

[magic fossil]

Navi 👀

Mammer

[celest sluice]

Hey! Listen!

[charred ocean]

never knew a banana AI model would become a jerk

[sonic musk]

I am listening

[magic fossil]

can i send a link here Smokey ?

[celest sluice]

Nothing just a reference to Navi's profile

[rough path]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1019692489596215388/1209577674780180501/image.png?ex=65f0a87e&is=65de337e&hm=1a8429e41175303628f57dbef4319d9978a7befe5ecb4f0fc3d801abbe45b8fe&

See? She lurks

[toxic horizon]

Spock speaks the truth

[sonic musk]

Veka is typing...

[toxic horizon]

uh oh

[celest sluice]

kmb too

[sonic musk]

Developer on Minecraft at Mojang Studios.

[toxic horizon]

kmb who?

[devout barn]

how about omnipotent being that can summon a preview at will? or break all addons if you so wish 😈

[magic fossil]

Navi see everything 👀

[sonic musk]

kmb600

[celest sluice]

:(

[hasty grotto]

way better than the other navi

[devout barn]

:(

[hoary forge]

Wait, who are you again? /s

[toxic horizon]

fr

[toxic horizon]

who?

[rough path]

While a lot of people are here. You should checkout https://twitter.com/mikeamm/status/1762563121296859332?t=RwjPl1gQMGqCIim-8ef5SA&s=19

Mike Ammerlaan (@mikeamm) on X

Part 2 of building the Chill Dreams Add-on:

https://t.co/WMmRTfh3qZ

Here I cover a bit of the TypeScript code that what used to implement the dream flyover ... and wax a little metaphorical.

Twitter · Feb 27, 2024, 7:39 PM

[charred ocean]

hmmm

[sonic musk]

@devout barn is a discord user who is in this server.

[toxic horizon]

Never heard of them, there's 14k people, so might have missed them

[magic fossil]

Java Team need to know about you 🙂
https://discord.gg/QAFXFtZ

[rough path]

Oh we hit 14k?

[rich vault]

Just checking to see if someone mention shaders, nothing to worry about

[charred ocean]

i actually knew about the server but I don't remember why i left it

[sonic musk]

Your memory is

[devout barn]

:((

[magic fossil]

How are we smaller than our Java equivilant 😭

[toxic horizon]

actually, I have a relative photographic memory

[magic fossil]

We didn't ,our Java equivilant did.

[eternal shoal]

omg, there is another kayla?

[stoic orchid]

oh geez. tryashtar is a mod. I'm doomed.

[hasty grotto]

you appear in my dreams

[eternal shoal]

kayla 2.0?

[rough path]

He is a modder 🥁

[toxic horizon]

v2.0*

[devout barn]

technically Bedrock has commands, so Bedrock community is still bigger 😉

[toxic horizon]

not the real tryashtar

v2

[rough path]

https://discord.gg/pytC8zKHPn 8 more

[sonic musk]

good. do share some knowledge . I become smarter everytime you type

[toxic horizon]

oh so goddamn close

[lethal pumice]

brb posting to twitter "Minecraft dev confirms there will no longer be public beta testing for Minecraft"

[toxic horizon]

minecraft news account will def post that

[magic fossil]

It's over 😭

[stoic orchid]

Thankfully everyone knows to not beleive anything I say.

[sonic musk]

minecraft news might be faster

[toxic horizon]

ye lol

[hasty grotto]

i wonder if its malice or a language barrier

[devout barn]

I'll not believe anything you don't say

[rough path]

kayla, you think you can get 9 more mojangsters to join so we can hit 14k

[magic fossil]

Yeah but that is the unofficial datapack dev server 👀

[toxic horizon]

Seems just a overly enthusiastic minecraft enjoyer

[magic fossil]

Yes yes yes

[sonic musk]

I will not beleive anything you say.

[chrome plover]

kayla gpt can just generate 9 more instances of bot accounts

[hoary forge]

Pretty sure she’s just a ChatGPT NPC

[devout barn]

break all of java's datapacks and make them use scripts instead 😈

[magic fossil]

You had beef with him ?

[magic fossil]

Make Java uses Bedrock

[stoic orchid]

BAO?

[magic fossil]

How about that

[rough path]

https://tenor.com/view/bao-pixar-gif-12122440

[magic fossil]

Yes yes yes ,get the Java team to join aswell !

[rough path]

Bao is now my baby

[lapis sierra]

More devs we can complain to.

[hoary forge]

^^

[rough path]

Also since its leap day, does this mean preview will contain more frogs

[devout barn]

but also we can influence the java devs behind java players' backs 😈

[devout barn]

leaping to permanent death perhaps

[sonic musk]

ngl blue frogs would be cool

[magic fossil]

Yes yes

[lapis sierra]

Get rid of custom super flat worlds because bedrock doesn't have them. PARITY!

[magic fossil]

This day is special once in 4 year

[prisma niche]

Why do I feel like today's preview is gonna be early?

[magic fossil]

Everyone should treasure it

[sonic musk]

we need amplified parity

[stoic orchid]

because I'm posting early? But, no, the Preview won't get posted early.

[rough path]

Me omw to scare kayla so she delays the preview

[prisma niche]

[magic fossil]

If it's not early...why is it called preview ?

[toxic horizon]

because it's a release to showcase

[lapis sierra]

I get it... reverse psychology. 😉

It ISN'T coming early

[sonic musk]

this is an interesting way to look at it

lmao

[stoic orchid]

ok, let's all settle down a bit 🙂

[magic fossil]

😦

[sonic musk]

I did

[cerulean quarry]

Early? Preview

?

[lethal pumice]

kayla, will there be any trace of hardcore in this preview?

[sonic musk]

no

[stoic orchid]

not my department

[cerulean quarry]

Kayla, 1.21 drop today?

[sonic musk]

bruh they just said it will be in dev for a time

[lethal pumice]

Oh, thanks

[celest sluice]

hardcore is not a creator feature :)

[rough path]

read that as apartment lol

[celest sluice]

No matter how many times you say it is

[rough path]

What is a creator feature... new YT video idea

[stoic orchid]

oooo that's a good video idea

[magic fossil]

I think nobody ever asked this before but....why isn't Xilefian here ?

[rough path]

We banned him for leaving floating trees

[lapis sierra]

Why would they?

[magic fossil]

time for more philosophical questions.

[magic fossil]

good good.

[celest sluice]

I thought it was for arson

[scarlet carbon]

Bee cuz xilefian is busy lurking at minecraft commands

[sonic musk]

damn should've just time him out

[rough path]

i would be banned from here if that was the case

[lethal pumice]

Is addons his department?

[lapis sierra]

No

[celest sluice]

just technical stuff in Bedrock in general

Think backend stuff

[hoary forge]

Make Xilefian create add-ons so he can join BAO

[sonic musk]

damn i just thought of this
are glass blocks in minecraft hollow or full.

[devout barn]

Didn't Minecraft tweet that the wolf armor changes are coming to preview today?

So I'd imagine it's a substantial one

[lapis sierra]

Custom Dimension Add-On

[rough path]

They said soon

[magic fossil]

is xilefian a girl or a weeb ?

[hoary forge]

Yes!!

[devout barn]

They said tomorrow on the tweet yesterday

[magic fossil]

Yes yes

[rough path]

Shhh let me gaslight people

[devout barn]

lol

They said 2025 actually

[hoary forge]

1.21.80.20 next year?! 👀

[magic fossil]

1.30 when

[lapis sierra]

No 1.20.137

[wet shell]

Can someone explain to me what this means

[celest sluice]

No more creator features until the next next major update

/j

[wet shell]

Oh

[stoic orchid]

This is just a bad joke. Folks here were telling me to stop releasing features so they could pile up and release together.

[wet shell]

Ok

Anyway

[celest sluice]

I thought it was funny... 😶

[hoary forge]

A very good idea imo

[magic fossil]

That's a good idea tho.

[wet shell]

Im working on a community made deferred trailer

[stoic orchid]

Why? Then we don't get community feedback as we go.

[wet shell]

Since y’all supposedly watch those

[celest sluice]

Still joking?

[magic fossil]

Yes

[celest sluice]

Ok

[magic fossil]

or am i

[lapis sierra]

Nah I want changelogs that take a couple hours to scroll down

[magic fossil]

😆

[magic fossil]

That sounds cool

[molten axle]

||rustle||

[celest sluice]

Hi

[lone oasis]

Hello fellow bedrock edition enjoyers mmyes i love scripting

[hoary forge]

I have an idea, why not bring Java edition’s changelogs writer over to Bedrock so we can have changelog parity?

[molten axle]

Ohhohoho yes JavaScript what a beautiful language my, my... Yes.

[magic fossil]

we have been invaded 😱

[prisma niche]

Okay what's happening?

[hoary forge]

hm

[lapis sierra]

There are new people.

Strange

[celest sluice]

Sorry guys. I let them in

[magic fossil]

i mean kayla lead the "bedrock invasion"

this is their response.

new java datapackers are cool tho

[lethal pumice]

I don't like java changelogs.. Maybe because I am too used to bedrock changelogs..?

[magic fossil]

😦

[molten axle]

Whatever do you mean? I have been here for 3 long years. I'm a dedicated member of this community!

[lone oasis]

^

[lapis sierra]

Okay.

I've never seen you before

[lone oasis]

That means we've done our job right

[rough path]

😂 Last message was in 2022

[celest sluice]

Weird thing he actually has joined the server 3 years ago

[molten axle]

Then it's working.

[stoic orchid]

welcome!

[lapis sierra]

Yah I noticed.

[molten axle]

I got fired from my Bedrock team 🥲

[lethal pumice]

Am i new here?

[magic fossil]

why 😭 ?

[lapis sierra]

Relatively

[toxic horizon]

damn, I'm even newer

[molten axle]

They said they didn't have a project for me to work on

[magic fossil]

what was your specialty ?

atleast they paid you

[quasi wedge]

eating

[magic fossil]

No

[toxic horizon]

who said anything about being paid?

They're like Mojangsters, they don't get paid

they're hobbyists 😎

[molten axle]

Gameplay development, I had just finished making my first addon for them and they put me onto a game that had no feasible way to be finished or a chance of success and I told them that and so they stopped that project and I was out of a job

[quasi wedge]

why I will never join a team

[molten axle]

Anyway now that I've gained all of your trust through my seniority and sad life story are there any recent Bedrock secrets a long time Add-on developer such as me should know?

[toxic horizon]

want to work together?

[quasi wedge]

no

[toxic horizon]

I can then fire you 🥺

[toxic horizon]

but... but...

I wanna fire

[magic fossil]

I need YOU to join Lum Studio 😋

[toxic horizon]

Let me be your arsonist 🙏

[quasi wedge]

Please stay #on-topic

[toxic horizon]

oki

[magic fossil]

Kayla is a lurker

[molten axle]

Goodness me!

[toxic horizon]

anybody know what the preview might have?

[molten axle]

What perchance else is happening

[toxic horizon]

New 1.9.0 Scripting API?

🙏

[celest sluice]

Well we have this ritual

[limber tiger]

Is it a good or bad news ?😭

[magic fossil]

we say 'brrr skibidi dop dop dop yes yes'

[sonic musk]

Don't let this conversation distract you from the fact that new preview hasn't dropped

[molten axle]

Perchance you can tell me about it?

[celest sluice]

"preview when"

[chrome plover]

have you heard of the preview banana?

[toxic horizon]

sorry bro, I suggested 1.22 for all 😔

[magic fossil]

😦

[rough path]

Yo, do you mind if I turn this into a sticker in BAO?

[magic fossil]

off with his head !

[chrome plover]

feel free to lol

[molten axle]

||That is our secret directive - why kayla brought us here... ||

[molten axle]

Ahhhh... Perchance.

[limber tiger]

Let’s hope they start .80 preview series today

[sleek grail]

Mind if I ask which team?

[molten axle]

Of course, the distant cousin of the infamous Snapshot Frog

[magic fossil]

1.20.80 ?

[molten axle]

I had an NDA and I don't want to check what the terms are so I can't/won't say, sorry

[charred ocean]

Everyone's partying nicely here lol

[sleek grail]

An NDA to not say the name of the team you're working with? Well alr then

[celest sluice]

Preview's closing in

[sonic musk]

https://tenor.com/EIhy.gif

[magic fossil]

wdym by 'gameplay development' i'm sorry but i havent heard of the term before.

[sonic musk]

How you play the game is gameplay

[charred ocean]

okay might have to go. Will check everything tmr morning

See ya. Gn from India

[molten axle]

That was my title yeah, I was the primary developer on an Add-on that released on marketplace and was going to do a game but it didn't pan out

[chrome plover]

pheonixSC moment

[celest sluice]

Australia

[molten axle]

Perfect... Our takeover will be complete by then Have a good night!

[celest sluice]

Time zone moment

[sonic musk]

It would be good if I could set an alarm when preview drops I am about to fall asleep

[molten axle]

Could probably code something like that

[worthy gulch]

No preview today?

[lapis sierra]

be patient

[molten axle]

Anyway I like how this server's new feature discussion channel is just as off topic as #snapshots in MCC

[azure spade]

When Preview?

Ladies and Gentlemen, it is with great honour to announce that it might be preview day

When do Previews usually happen?

Previews usually occur on a Wednesday or Thursday between <t:1703692800:t> and <t:1703700000:t>

Feb 29, 2024, 4:02 PM

[worthy gulch]

Just asking

[molten axle]

Good to know that some Minecraft aspects are consistent between versions

[worthy gulch]

Sounds good thanks smokey

[rough path]

🤣 The children yearn for new features

[molten axle]

||Greetings fellow agent, you too are here for the takeover? I don't think they suspect that I'm from Minecraft Commands||

[rough path]

So this channel is 50% speculation, 40% Minecraft news

[magic fossil]

Then how did you get fired ? 🤔

[molten axle]

We have an old graph we like to use from my home country

[worthy gulch]

I think there will be some water modifications 👀

If not it's a bunch of bug fixes or hard-core mode

[magic fossil]

Is that a potrait of BAO first president ?

[rough path]

People do love water improvements for Deferred

[worthy gulch]

Idk I prefer color grading lol

30% of the shader relies on the color grading

Estheticly

[rough path]

😂 Im pretty sure the first BAO owner's pfp is just the default pfp

[worthy gulch]

Do you see mods on the market place a good step?

Add-ons*

[rough path]

A step in the right direction yes. Massive congrats to those involved on making this happen

[wet shell]

Immersive railroading addon on marketplace when

[worthy gulch]

Well in my opinion if they take care of the addon market place well enough bedrock will become super good

[fluid wadi]

This is very accurate to us too

[rough path]

😂 Haha, does MCC have forums for each snapshot or do y'all use the peasant text channels

[worthy gulch]

But if it becomes a cheap click bait area it will become as a huge downfall

[lone oasis]

It's one text channel because we simply have elephant memory

[molten axle]

Whoops packed the wrong gun

I mean

[charred ocean]

no. bed time moment. I don't own a personal room to stay awake

[magic fossil]

we need this for BAO

[molten axle]

Do not insult our beloved #snapshots

[magic fossil]

glory to....default pfp guy ?

[charred ocean]

yes as always haha

okay. actually good night now. see ya!

[worthy gulch]

Also @rough path sorry for bothering but is bedrock moving away from components with the updates they're providing? Or are we still getting limited

[molten axle]

Alright I'm late for class. Perchance I'll return

[magic fossil]

we need a portal to phoenix server-

[fluid wadi]

School moment

[molten axle]

https://tenor.com/view/perchance-typing-white-guy-tapping-albania-gif-24986313

[rough path]

What do you mean?

[molten axle]

I'm hopefully getting a free bagel 😎

Perchance.

[worthy gulch]

Coding wise are we getting closer to Java? Or are they taking us to a limited way of coding the addons

[sleek grail]

No

[magic fossil]

But

Ur a builder

[sleek grail]

The way addons work, we'll always be limited to what's been given to us

[worthy gulch]

Doesn't matter

I'm asking as a consumer

[magic fossil]

Javascript should extend our limits to the sky

[worthy gulch]

They're not opening up to make it open source?

[sleek grail]

It does help a lot but still not as much as java

[lone oasis]

Java devs laughing in source code access

[magic fossil]

close is good enough

close enough is good enough

[lone oasis]

And that is how we solved the traveling salesman problem

Might try bedrock dev again considering I'm here

[stoic orchid]

Happy Preview Day everyone

[chrome plover]

🥱

[toxic horizon]

It's official, Kayla said it

[rough path]

Time to datamine

[toxic horizon]

damn

You do illegal things??

[wet shell]

But there isn’t any preview

[inland geyser]

Sniff sniffi smelll banana

[stoic orchid]

Did Thomas forget to hit the button again?

[wet shell]

https://tenor.com/view/thomas-and-friends-thomas-angry-mad-not-happy-gif-24980395

[lapis sierra]

Why Thomas always forget?

[wet shell]

“You have caused confusion and delay Thomas”

[limber tiger]

Fire Thomas 😂

[inland geyser]

😂😂😂

[wet shell]

Preview where

[azure spade]

When Preview?

Ladies and Gentlemen, it is with great honour to announce that it might be preview day

When do Previews usually happen?

Previews usually occur on a Wednesday or Thursday between <t:1703692800:t> and <t:1703700000:t>

Feb 29, 2024, 4:02 PM

[eternal shoal]

we need Preview

[toxic horizon]

soon

[rich vault]

awaits in the distant future

[toxic horizon]

Mysterious wooshing sounds

[stoic orchid]

Here's a preview preview: https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/minecraft/creator/documents/customcomponents?view=minecraft-bedrock-stable

[prisma niche]

yes!

[cerulean quarry]

🔥

Wow

[chrome plover]

😱

[toxic horizon]

oh damn

[eternal shoal]

slay

[rich vault]

:0

[toxic horizon]

an actual custom component api

[magic fossil]

Holy shit

:0

[cerulean quarry]

damn thats creazy!

[wet shell]

What’s this?

[cerulean quarry]

read docs

[prisma niche]

Custom block components

[toxic horizon]

yep, this preview already insane

[wet shell]

What does that mean

[chrome plover]

that's amazing

[plucky cliff]

there is a bug with items

[wet shell]

What can you do with that

[toxic horizon]

and the preview isn't even out yet xD

[plucky cliff]

we cant override minecraft:item rp entities

[inland geyser]

[plucky cliff]

i am talking about item entity and not item itself

[half depot]

Idk how any of the scripting stuff works but that's cool to say the least

[rough path]

Wait what!!!

[wet shell]

I don’t even know what this means

[celest sluice]

You know how blocks and items have events?

[quasi wedge]

NORWAY

[wet shell]

Not really

What kind of events

[magic fossil]

we are no longer bond by what components mojang give us for blocks

we can do whatever we wants

[toxic horizon]

ye

[celest sluice]

Events are like custom actions that a block can do

[cerulean quarry]

Not included in this version maybe?
https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/minecraft/creator/scriptapi/minecraft/server/worldinitializeafterevent?view=minecraft-bedrock-experimental

[wet shell]

Nice

[toxic horizon]

within API capabilities*

[cerulean quarry]

or types are not updated

[celest sluice]

Except override vanilla blocks 🥹

[eternal shoal]

https://feedback.minecraft.net/hc/en-us/articles/24509955193229-Minecraft-Beta-Preview-1-20-80-20

[toxic horizon]

1WOOO

[magic fossil]

Yeah except that ,but we have more power

[toxic horizon]

I was about to paste it xxD

[prisma niche]

no way

THIS IS REAL

[cerulean quarry]

😭 Added ‘minecraft:custom_components’ block component under the Beta APIs feature flag

[wet shell]

YESS

[cerulean quarry]

looks like its only for custom blocks

😔

[magic fossil]

Mammer

[prisma niche]

@stoic orchid excuse this ping, but are there docs for this?

[toxic horizon]

wait, since the 1.20.80.x cycle is out, will 1.20.80 be today?

[half depot]

LEAF SSS

LESS GO

[half depot]

it's a start

[eternal shoal]

:c

[inland geyser]

Where yall getting yar info

[plucky cliff]

i think items too

[inland geyser]

Nvm

[cerulean quarry]

damn structure apis are creazy!

[prisma niche]

[eternal shoal]

:c x2

[stoic orchid]

they are drafted, I'll see if they are in the queue to release today

[cerulean quarry]

Structure
Renamed class StructureTemplate to Structure
Added read-only property size: Vector3 - Returns the size of the structure in blocks
Added function getBlockPermutation(location: Vector3): BlockPermutation | undefined; - Returns the block permutation at the given location within the structure
Added function isValid(): boolean - Returns false if the structure has been deleted
Added function getIsWaterlogged(location: Vector3): boolean; - Returns whether the block at the given location is waterlogged

[rich vault]

@tropic chasm I believe that should be a decent alternative to your proposed block & item event changes

[chrome plover]

@inland geyser

[prisma niche]

Thanks ❤️

[wet shell]

Will these new deferred features be automatically compatible with the pbr pack im using rn?

[half depot]

I'd imagine it's just an included thing for now

[cerulean quarry]

guys move here

https://discord.com/channels/523663022053392405/1212804711040679947

[languid tinsel]

Who are you again?

[rough path]

The person who will ban you

[languid tinsel]

You've been in a very threatening mood lately

[rough path]

Maybe I am grumpy

[magic fossil]

Not enough emojis and pepe stare ,i miss goofy smokey 😭

[sleek grail]

Much better imo

Though I still wonder how performanet queued ticking will be

[plush wedge]

😭 Nooo, I am chill, I swear

[magic fossil]

ur not

[plush wedge]

u r band >:(

[wet shell]

Case oh be like :

[tropic chasm]

Will give it a deeper look when I get back home, looking good so far, but haven’t been able to read it in detail

[toxic horizon]

cool dude messages next

[tropic trout]

Docs will be coming when we expand the feature to TextureSets as a whole.

[tropic chasm]

They literally just added that block component for me 🤯❤️

Right Kayla? 😛

[stoic orchid]

absolutely!

[tropic chasm]

I knew! 🫶

[lapis sierra]

It's gonna be awesome

Especially when it's all stable

I'm so tired of stuff breaking : (

[hoary forge]

I cannot wait for it to become stable

[tropic chasm]

I can’t wait to get home and read the docs 😊

[plucky cliff]

we are making this much progress in api
meanwhile entity permutation waiting for a news from mojang be like

https://tenor.com/view/waiting-waiting-patiently-waiting-for-you-waiting-on-you-gif-15489516379864441176

[lunar musk]

Lol

[finite jolt]

🤔 arent entity permutations just properties

[charred ocean]

was just casually watching ecko's video and i encountered this. Seems like this went unnoticed by people?

i guess someone in the deferred team noticed it by now. Right? @tropic trout

[sonic musk]

It's a feature
It's meant to improve text readability

[cerulean quarry]

👆

lmao

[elfin flower]

This reminds me of banner always rendering on top, so basically. banner can hide players name and always visible behind the glass

[toxic horizon]

just found a speed bug 😎

Idk how to explain it though

I just sped up by doing something but I'm trying to do it again but I can't replicate it

[sonic musk]

Adderall kicking in be like

[finite jolt]

😈

[toxic horizon]

https://imgflip.com/i/8hlxgy

[south bay]

.cancel = true

[sonic musk]

What would be "Minecraft afterEvent"

[toxic horizon]

The full relase of the game

[sonic musk]

Wouldn't that just be Minecraft

[toxic horizon]

yes

[sonic musk]

Ngl presentEvent would be Minecraft and afterEvent would be Minecraft 2

[rough path]

Did we talk about this?
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/752025256377450546/1213150508693458984/IMG_0166.jpg?ex=65f46d74&is=65e1f874&hm=dbcbe5b12818a1a63e4554fdfbd61731ccdc1439ebf8186ed67034c8d6161eb8&
https://www.minecraft.net/en-us/article/mob-menagerie-glow-squid

[prisma niche]

what

[ionic ocean]

An update to glow squids in the next few months… or 1.21?

[prisma niche]

Why do I feel glow squids are actually gonna emit light

[sonic musk]

Maybe I would like a glow squid boss

[quasi wedge]

I will use glow squids as a torch replacement

[elfin flower]

portable torch.

[devout barn]

We were worried about the squid uprising but what we failed to see coming is the glow squid uprising

[rough path]

Nah, after some talking with other people, theyre referring to IRL glow in the dark stuff. Not in mc. As for the new update its 1.21

[limber tiger]

could it be possible to see the release of 1.20.70 next week?

[rough path]

Nah, two weeks

Stable Releases usually releases during the week of a .22 preview

[tropic chasm]

Do you think the block stuff will be stable in two weeks also?

[rough path]

no

[ionic ocean]

Which stuff?

Custom components?

[hoary forge]

I'm guessing custom components

[tropic chasm]

yeah

sometimes I have big expectations

[hoary forge]

They won't be stable for at least a while

[tropic chasm]

What is a while

[hoary forge]

A couple of months?

[rough path]

Fall2024?

[tropic chasm]

Okay, not a year, that’s good

[ionic ocean]

I don’t think we will ever see a situation like HCF again, at least not under current leadership.

[rough path]

Hopefully

Unless we annoy kayla too much and shes in a trolling mood

[rich vault]

Just never let community experiment with new features

[stoic orchid]

Custom Components will take a bit longer than smaller features. But definitely not expecting anything like HCF again.

[tropic chasm]

kayla would never delay anything block related more than needed

That’s why I’m getting connectable block trait next preview

[rough path]

If kayla decides to retire then she'll create HCF 2

[stoic orchid]

The target for features and APIs is, Beta/Preview for 1-2 releases, then stable. Unless the feature is undergoing change and iteration or is experiencing bugs.

[stoic orchid]

That's a great idea! It'll be the next person's problem.

[tropic chasm]

Next person’s feature*

[rough path]

😔 playerInteract

The Bedrock Engine does not want players to interact with it...as an introvert, I get that

[stoic orchid]

A bunch of stuff happened here. We're learning, trying to get better.

[tropic chasm]

https://tenor.com/view/starwarsday-gif-5413758

[rough path]

Understandable, Im just curious at what exactly happened in the code to prevent its stable release... 👻 maybe the game just wants us to use experimental forever

[devout barn]

hey well things happen that can delay full release, game dev is tricky at times

[tropic chasm]

Okay time to test onsetp

[languid tinsel]

Hahha

[stoic orchid]

As an FYI, just to set expectations. Custom Components are likely going to bounce out of next week's Preview so we can fix a bug or two. They should return a week or two later and we'll continue iterating with you all.

Still glad to have them public now, so at least you all know what we're doing.

[magic fossil]

What about BlockEvent ?

[rough path]

And return with two bugs! Whoo game dev /s

In all seriousnesd thanks for the heads up. We appreciate yall especially for getting HCF stabilized and bringing a compromise of json and scripting

[magic fossil]

How many updates are left until they are fully gone ?

[stoic orchid]

Our plan: We won't deprecate the rest of Holiday Creator Features until Custom Components is stable.

[magic fossil]

Until ALL event listeners are out ?

[rough path]

If I had to wager, since they alr put a roadmap out they want to get all of those working in beta apis before releasing the whole thing as stable

[stoic orchid]

That's the plan, yes.

[wet shell]

Deferred rendering reference?

Glow squids do glow in deferred

🤷‍♂️

[lapis sierra]

Reminds me of /placefeature

I'm sure custom components will be back soon like you said though : )

[celest sluice]

You're assuming deferred will be ready by then

[wet shell]

I’m not saying it will be done by then

Well in optimization terms

But they could have a trailer maybe

In a few months

[wheat wasp]

Kayla I have feedback I'd like to give related a recent update but it's half marketplacy and half updates related. I'm not sure where who to give it to or where to post it. Any advice?

[hasty grotto]

then the devs will have the combined breath of millions of minecraft players blowing down their necks

[half depot]

It's best to keep deferred kinda on the down low

No need to publicly announce it because then it'll lead to insane traffic and community pressure to release

And a trailer hoo boy

It'll give the impression that it's almost ready to release

Not a good idea even from a marketing standpoint to make a trailer yet

[hasty grotto]

*sdgp flashbacks*

[half depot]

Exactly

I'm sure they've learned from that

Nothing wrong with us knowing about it, but a trailer with deferred in its current state is a Nono. (Not saying deferred is bad. Saying it's just heavily unfinished)

[charred ocean]

never

[magic fossil]

@rough path can you give @tough geode mojangster role ?(sorry for the ping to you both 😭 )

[charred ocean]

damn. welcome @tough geode to Bedrock Addons

[magic fossil]

we have a java mojangster here finally :D

[charred ocean]

@magic fossil invited gegy. Ain't it?

[magic fossil]

Yes

[charred ocean]

right lol

[magic fossil]

I tried invite boq aswell but he's not interested

i am suprised how few java mojangsters are here lol

[hasty grotto]

well

[magic fossil]

given xile is in MCC

[hasty grotto]

bedrock

[hasty grotto]

xilefian?

[magic fossil]

and kayla is also in MCC(because of me :O)

[magic fossil]

yes yes

[hasty grotto]

are they not in this server?

[charred ocean]

wait a sec. who do you meant by boq?

[magic fossil]

a java mojangster

[charred ocean]

oh ok lol

also didn't knew silentwis had a discord server too

[silver flume]

Me when I

[charred ocean]

joined his server today

[magic fossil]

who is silentwis

[magic fossil]

Me ,singhandledly connecting the Java and Bedrock Creator communities:

[charred ocean]

silentwisperer

[charred ocean]

go ahead. Might as well give a hand in it

[magic fossil]

oh

Bedrock version of Mumbojumbo

[charred ocean]

yea

i mean mumbo is a technical machines guy meanwhile silent is a redstone farms guy

[magic fossil]

boq was not interested ,i invited kayla to mcc

now gegy is in bao

[charred ocean]

i know about kayla

[magic fossil]

it's all coming together

[charred ocean]

and gegy now too

yeah

Parity invasion between java and bedrock community servers

java in bedrock and bedrock in java

[magic fossil]

that sounds like....

😬

[charred ocean]

also i wish these 10 days had passed.

[magic fossil]

lesbians ?

[hasty grotto]

what

[magic fossil]

yes yes 😌

[charred ocean]

my irl grind would have finished and i would have returned to learning coding again

[magic fossil]

given Java and Bedrock have communities almost never interacted with eachother despite being in a same game ,i think it's our duty.

[charred ocean]

just completed maths worth 3 huge chapters

[hasty grotto]

we should rename this forum to general

[charred ocean]

Let things be as it is.

for now

Java servers for java and BE servers for BE

[magic fossil]

But we are all Minecraft

alot of the Java communities still believe we are playing with sticks and stones lol

most don't know free community addons exist ,assume bedrock only uses "commands" ect

[hasty grotto]

ive seen many think that you cant even import custom skins

[charred ocean]

i meant the servers don't really need a change (by name)

[hasty grotto]

i meant maybe we're going off topic

[charred ocean]

for ex. it isn't rlly needed to rn to change BAO to something like Bedrock Modbase

i mean sure modbase is also okay but i mean like something else

[magic fossil]

There's already "Minecraft Modding" server

[charred ocean]

yeah.

i mean I don't feel like changing the present names of this server

to something else

[magic fossil]

Still having more Javaers on Bedrock would be cool

[charred ocean]

Javaears more like javanians?

that might go more properly

and bedrockers for bedrock

[magic fossil]

javanians and bedrockers

can we be Javascripters since we make mods using JS ?

[charred ocean]

yeah sure that would go much more better

[obsidian lark]

That's not really true. Most of the Marketplace partners have Java datapack devs in them.

Take Jannis (creator of Blockbench) for example, he has Java mapmaking experience like I do.

[silver flume]

Where's your blockbench equivalent then 🤨🤨🤨

[hasty grotto]

crayfish model creator

[obsidian lark]

Back in the day it was Cubik Studio.

When Jannis started working on Blockbench, I suggested a bunch of Cubik Studio features. Like the quad view and element groups (bones on Bedrock) were my ideas.

Jannis probably remembers that I refused to use Blockbench until it got a quad view. 😅

[magic fossil]

Marketplace partners aren't the most accurate repersentation of the hobbyist creators

[magic fossil]

you sounds old

[carmine kettle]

That's the neat thing: these Marketplace partners Ersatz refers to were once hobbyists. Kinda still are, in a way, they just get paid to make stuff.

I imagine many of them do personal projects on the side like your ordinary hobbyist would

But true. Most of those folk are a different generation of Minecraft creators than the ones here

Heck, they are of a different generation than I am, and I have been making tech for nearly seven years now

[magic fossil]

I would not imagine you to be old-

[carmine kettle]

Not old per se—considering the length of Minecraft's development, a "generation" is about two years on average

The folk Ersatz refers to did Realms mapmaking, which stretches to before I took an interest in 2017. I think Realms runs older than that?

[magic fossil]

I would guess you're older than 20 to be developing for that long

[magic fossil]

I see ,tbh the creator community for minecraft have exist as long as the game existed

[carmine kettle]

Indeed, and that is super cool

[coarse arrow]

I wish there was more opportunities for me to join marketplace as the addon section just released... we as the hobbyists are looking for opportunities to become full time!

[sleek grail]

Join a studio

You can fairly easily get your map published by one of those publishers, don't know about addons

[wheat wasp]

I have an apprenticeship program. Once you're in a for a little while and I'm confident on your skills I can recommend you to partners looking for Jr devs

[coarse arrow]

Partner teams? Good to know, what skills are wanted script api?

[wheat wasp]

I have tasks you can do. Get directed help with and grow your skills. Once your'e at a place I think you can join a team and be productive I can recommend you and see if you're a good fit for that team.

Each team needs something different. Most need a 4x4 devs to work in the weeds more than a race car dev to prototype and script. So first we need to figure out which kind of dev you are. Then work on the base skills for that style.

[limber tiger]

Among the five

3 are done

[past wharf]

Spectator not entirely

[limber tiger]

Well due to some bedrock limitations no but the bases are here

[past wharf]

What limitation ?

[heady sable]

Being able to clip into mobs

[past wharf]

The game can't do that ?

[prisma niche]

Yea you can't spectate entities on bedrock

[past wharf]

Yes ik

[limber tiger]

Or the player view switch

[wheat wasp]

Would you explain this more please?

[prisma niche]

On java, you can spectate entities. I'm spectating an Enderman in this screenshot.

[chrome plover]

Pretty useless feature tbf except for spectating players

[wheat wasp]

so you are seeing from the endermans eyes?

[prisma niche]

yes

you are viewing the entity's camera

[wheat wasp]

could you just tick a custom camera to the endermans head?

[prisma niche]

won't match rotations that way plus won't be able to get these effects afaik

[wheat wasp]

sure sure. Would be cool to have

I normally just make them rideable then hide the player body. But a command would be sick

I like to follow my ai's around to see what they are doign

[prisma niche]

Bedrock's spectator lacks speed control

[wheat wasp]

What does that mean?

[celest sluice]

Scroll wheel go brr

[wheat wasp]

well that clears it right up

[magic fossil]

@rough path ?

@lapis sierra ?

[obsidian lark]

Java does have /spectate. So they could always port that over too.

[lapis sierra]

what?

oh mojang role?

[magic fossil]

Give Gegy the red Mojangster role

[toxic horizon]

we have /gamemode spectator

[obsidian lark]

That's not the same. /spectate makes a player spectate an entity.

[magic fossil]

smokey just straight up ignores me 😭

[lapis sierra]

He saw

[magic fossil]

Gegy still doesn't have her role

[obsidian lark]

https://minecraft.wiki/w/Commands/spectate

[toxic horizon]

yes, ik, but it can be hard to add a whole thing like that from Java to Bedrock, especially when they're 2 different coding languages

[ionic ocean]

Gegy did not want the role. Please do not speak for others. 😦

[obsidian lark]

Languages don't matter.

[lapis sierra]

Not going to force it on them.

[toxic horizon]

how?

[magic fossil]

Oh i did not know that-

she spoke in dms ?

[ionic ocean]

Yeah, that's what I mean. Let us/them/others handle such. But thank you for facilitating… to an extent.

[obsidian lark]

The overall idea is what matters. They can implement it however they want.
Like I know many different programming languages and I can create the same thing in all of them.

[rough path]

When was this added?

[obsidian lark]

A long time ago.

[magic fossil]

Yeah but Java and Bedrock works different internally

[rough path]

Interesting, never heard of it, only knew you had to right click an entity to spectate

[obsidian lark]

https://minecraft.wiki/w/Java_Edition_19w41a

[rough path]

So you could just randomize spectators then

[obsidian lark]

Which doesn't really matter too. Mojang just needs to add it in a way that satisfies their engine framework. If that's not possible, they can modify the engine.

[magic fossil]

They can't change the engine

[obsidian lark]

"modify" was a better word.