General Discussion

[wet shell]

Only one I like is skye graphics

[hoary forge]

Deferred is not shaders too

[celest sluice]

Has anyone else noticed that the marketplace is hosting more and more "shader" texture packs?

[wet shell]

I know that

I meant to help me be patient for deferred

[wet shell]

Yes

[hoary forge]

The word “shader” is now allowed in the Marketplace apparently.

[celest sluice]

One of them was called "shades"

Lol

[hoary forge]

Pretty sure I’ve seen multiple packs use the word “shader” but that’s interesting lol

[celest sluice]

No I saw some with it too

[hoary forge]

here’s one

[wet shell]

What if it’s gonna be used for deferred packs 💀

[rich vault]

Or something else

Like texture packs. Or fog packs

[rich vault]

Really hope this was just a moderation mistake

[sonic musk]

5 stars must be kids bruh

[sonic musk]

i thought paintings were blocks just like item frames
but they are tile entites

[tropic chasm]

just like item frames

[sonic musk]

i don't think so the painting unrender at a certain distance just like chests
but item frames don't unrender

[tropic chasm]

They are still tile entities

they also had a limit on legacy edition like armor stands and other (blocks), which I find quite interesting

[sonic musk]

okay I was wrong they are block entites

[sleek grail]

I wonder when 1.20.60 will release

[silver flume]

It won't, sorry I cancelled it

[celest sluice]

Minecraft Monthly soon

[celest sluice]

Minecraft Monthly pretty soon

[limber ledge]

~15 minutes left.

[sleek grail]

What's that

[heady sable]

This

[sleek grail]

But what is Minecraft monthly? Is this new? I don't think I've heard of it before

[sonic musk]

Minecraft Monthly is a series of monthly news videos aimed at giving a rundown of newly introduced and upcoming features regarding the Minecraft franchise.

[sleek grail]

Ah

[wet shell]

5 minutes

Til Minecraft monthly

[celest sluice]

Minecraft Monthly very soon

[wet shell]

Minecraft preview for PlayStation announcement?👀

Ok it’s time

Where is da video

[chrome plover]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gbCSAffHr0w&list=PLZHdY_46KnYvl_EPTaV9iSOyAGVBX28uV&index=1

[wet shell]

Yay

[prisma niche]

vault. cool.

[lapis sierra]

Underwhelming

[sleek grail]

Truly

[prisma niche]

the way it works is cool

that's all

[lapis sierra]

They could of came up with something way better

Like a boss room or something

[wet shell]

https://tenor.com/view/rage-angry-gif-25976706

Me when no preview for PlayStation announcement

[quasi wedge]

Me when no banana

[lapis sierra]

Imagine a Copper Golem Boss fight. That'd be cool

[wet shell]

No banana

[heady sable]

Video summary:

• Armadillo retexture, or as they would call it "eye mardillo"
• Mojang loves feedback... they will go insane without it
• Longest staircase being shown in Bedrock (not like it was made before in Java)
• Planet Earth DLC in Education Edition
• Trail Keys can be used for a new block, called The Vault
• The Vault will ejects rewards when unlocked with the Trail Key
• The Vault will generate new loot but only once per player (or probably once per Trail Key inserted)

[quasi wedge]

That is now all of the 1.21 features that have been shown so far

[limber tiger]

It was a pain to watch

[wet shell]

Kingbdogz trolled us

[dreamy bison]

how lol

[wet shell]

Teasing new fruits

[limber tiger]

This person is really cringe

[wet shell]

Like “peeled”

[dreamy bison]

he didn't tho?

[lapis sierra]

Yah he's annoying

For kids tho...

[limber tiger]

Yes

[heady sable]

The eyes peeled was probably a hint towards that you should keep your eyes open and not closed

[lapis sierra]

MEH

[limber tiger]

But it’s really not funny

[dreamy bison]

yeah 'keep your eyes peeled' is a pretty common phrase

[heady sable]

You can make it entertaining without doing too extra

[rough path]

https://tenor.com/view/minor-spelling-mistake-gif-21179057

[heady sable]

Vu is really forcing itself

[wet shell]

I like how he acts like a child

[lapis sierra]

Okay this feels like another low effort update.

[limber tiger]

Yes

[heady sable]

What mistake?

[wet shell]

Imagine deferred is part of 1.21

[lapis sierra]

Shut

[rough path]

Trail key?

[wet shell]

Probably not

[rough path]

🤯 inb4 this tech replaces elytra item frames on end ships

[limber tiger]

Honestly I’m really gonna think mojang is not putting as much resources as before

[heady sable]

You would need a Trial Key lol

[quasi wedge]

Idk, depends when they're releasing the update, if it's supposed to be in the middle of the year we have new stuff that can pop up

[limber tiger]

Like with the aquatic update or nether update

[dreamy bison]

honestly if it does end up being smaller update idc if it ends up being a earlier release

[lapis sierra]

I'm %80 sure everything they've shown it all there is.

[sleek grail]

Still better than 1.10

[dreamy bison]

and, yeah, even if it does release in like summer as usual, there is still plenty of time left

for new features

[rough path]

Not necessarily a trial key

[sleek grail]

What makes you so sure?

[celest sluice]

Definitely not

[wet shell]

First of all how are we supposed to even find a trial chamber if they’re buried underground

[lapis sierra]

Oh yah forgot another gimmick feature no one will touch

[dreamy bison]

archeology and cherry blossoms were both announced for 1.20 later then january

[sleek grail]

Weren't armor trims announced later on too? I guess that fits into archeology

[dreamy bison]

armor trims were announced around this time last year

[sleek grail]

Ah

[chrome plover]

trial chambers don't really fit into the game imo

[celest sluice]

We'll at least the trial key has a use now I guess

[limber tiger]

Let’s hope they have more in the chamber because 1.21 is not good at all

[sleek grail]

Why so?

[dreamy bison]

they are certainly quite different

might just be a recency thing ?

[lapis sierra]

I think the trial chambers are kinda ugly. I don't like the whole copper theme.

[rough path]

Im gonna be honest, Im more interested in mc as a game engine than a survival game now

[celest sluice]

My guess is that this is 50-60% of the update revealed

[sleek grail]

Crafter def doesn't feel like an MC thing

[sleek grail]

Me too

[lapis sierra]

Same

[chrome plover]

yup this. They are very different than other structures in terms of loot and replayability. Not sure why they wouldn't have redone spawners and loot chests in other structures aswell. Now the trial chambers just feel a bit out of place

[lapis sierra]

I gave up when the "Wild" update only added one biome and changed none of the rest.

[dreamy bison]

erm actually it added two biomes

🤓

[lapis sierra]

Mangrove Swamp and what?

[sleek grail]

Deep dark

[heady sable]

Deep Dark

[celest sluice]

TBF it was only 6 months betwee 1.18 and 1.19

[sleek grail]

Really? Wow

[lapis sierra]

THATS NOT WILD THOUGH. ALSO WAS FROM CAVE UPDATE.

[heady sable]

I agreed, but it officially falls under 1.19

[lapis sierra]

Capital scream

[celest sluice]

The deep dark is pretty wild

[dreamy bison]

if they hadn't split caves update wild update may have been larger with a full year development

[prisma niche]

Well they had their reasons.

because of some stupid virus

[dreamy bison]

100%, just thinking about 'what if'

[prisma niche]

I blame the virus, not Mojang

[lapis sierra]

Not wilderness though. It's underground.

I only count mangrove swamp

[sleek grail]

They addressed 1.17's split pretty well, less so far stuff afterwards so I blame em for that

[heady sable]

The Vault/Trial Chambers would perfectly fit the Wild update to be honest, but sadly that update is almost 2 years old

[celest sluice]

But it's not "wilderness" lol

[sleek grail]

I wonder how much time went into 1.16 considering 1.15 was the bees update

[heady sable]

I thought the Wild Update as in "We throw some random things together that Minecraft needs)

[chrome plover]

sharks please 😎

[sleek grail]

I thought that's what 1.20 was

[celest sluice]

My best guess is that they worked on both at the same time

[dreamy bison]

honestly that's why i think the more general themes like 1.20 are better then more specific themes

[heady sable]

1.15 was the Parity Update for Bedrock (which got merged with 1.16), only 1.14 was the Buzzy Bees update

[sleek grail]

I was referring to the Java numbers, I'm aware that bedrock didn't have a proper 1.15

[lapis sierra]

The annual tradition of adding a useless mob that sits there and does nothing.

[heady sable]

We are in BOA so I use Bedrock ✨amazing ✨ versioning scheme

[rough path]

BOA?

[celest sluice]

I think the armadillo could be useful for spider farms.

[heady sable]

BAO

[dreamy bison]

Bedrock Onns Add

[sonic musk]

I feel the same
I had hoped for a vault room but the block is fine ig

[sleek grail]

Did anyone predict it?

[heady sable]

Not on Bedrock with the slow ahh pathfinding

[dreamy bison]

i feel like vault room would be weird cos how would they stop you just mining around it

[celest sluice]

Now I want to build it just to see

[chrome plover]

I would've thought the trial key would be used to unlock copper doors to go into other rooms

[celest sluice]

Pickaxe:

[chrome plover]

yup that's the problem

[celest sluice]

Then people will just call it useless

[lapis sierra]

I thought it was to unlock a boss

[sleek grail]

Something like a locked room wouldn't really work well in Minecraft

[sonic musk]

could just do like a custom properties where the room has a property of bedrock while locked

[lapis sierra]

A giant copper golem

[celest sluice]

Not a good idea. What if you want to build there

[heady sable]

The concept of the Vault is very useful for mapmakers and multiplayer, however I don't see how the Trial Key is helpful with that combined. It would be great if Vaults were to replace the chests in other structures as well (or the Elytra in the End City)

[sonic musk]

unlock it then. you can build what you want afterwards

[celest sluice]

But I don't wanna unlock it 😭

In serious though, I get your point

But I'm still not a fan of unbreakable blocks

[lapis sierra]

https://twitter.com/justnobodyrn/status/1750918743801069685

Nobody (@justnobodyrn) on X

Do you like the use of a trial key to open the vault block?

What https://t.co/sUd1ufBz7c think would of been a better use for the trial key?

Twitter · Jan 26, 2024, 4:28 PM

[sonic musk]

the trial chambers is like a map to me
i would love to have vault rooms of some sort that can only be unlocked via a key

[rough path]

https://twitter.com/MinecraftNewsUA/status/1750914836492378224?t=kKgSCIydcM8lWEzzHH40Ig&s=19 Im finished

Minecraft News (@MinecraftNewsUA) on X

A hint for #Fortnite X #Minecraft has been confirmed - "The Vault", tne new block for unlocking the rewards in Trial Chambers!

Coming soon to Snapshots, Previews and Betas!

Twitter · Jan 26, 2024, 4:13 PM

[prisma niche]

💀

[chrome plover]

💀 no way

[prisma niche]

bro Fortnite?

[sleek grail]

Where does fortnite tie into this

[prisma niche]

Fortnite has vaults where you get loot from chests

[sleek grail]

Oh

[prisma niche]

you require either a key, keycard or medallion to open them.

[celest sluice]

Y'all keep taking about unlocking vault rooms, but with vaults have a chance of just spawning a horde on you?

[prisma niche]

I hope

[celest sluice]

You might get loot, or you might get trouble. No need to make a room 🙂

A "trapped vault" if you will

[chrome plover]

mimic chest

[sonic musk]

bruh wtf is going on in this guy head

[celest sluice]

Btw, reminder that the loot ain't final, so vaults and spawners will most likely give different things

Anyway, off to the feedback site to suggest trapped vaults

[quasi wedge]

max enchanted diamond gear

[sonic musk]

if you can log in ofc

[sonic musk]

chainmail armor pls

[quasi wedge]

I'd rather it give several logs or other building blocks

armor progression is bad anyways, I don't need more iron or diamond junk

give me a stack of planks

[celest sluice]

Sorry meant discord
https://discord.com/channels/1138536747932864532/1200482937930522625

[devout barn]

Other structures could have a different unlock item. Vaults don’t necessarily have to be exactly the same as in the trial chambers

And hopefully in data packs and add ons you can customize them, where you can also set the unlock to nothing

[rough path]

Yep, kingbdogz mentioned it in mcia

[devout barn]

That server must be going wild rn lol

I bet everyone’s asking where are the promised bananas

[celest sluice]

MCIA?

[hoary forge]

MC Ideas Academy, It’s a discord server.

[hoary forge]

Poor David

Banana man won’t have any bananas in the game

[willow sequoia]

Do you see, Banana Man

[chrome plover]

Hopping over on the white hot sand

[elfin flower]

aight time to deactivate my twitter

[toxic horizon]

if only they added some of the stuff from the Planet Earth II DLC to actual Minecraft. Like the Sheeps, the Bison, the Deer, Seals

Isn't Education Edition C++? Or compatible with C++?

[celest sluice]

Education is just Bedrock but for Education

In fact the DLC is also available on Bedrock

[toxic horizon]

ye

[limber tiger]

https://x.com/minecraftnewsua/status/1750955238817681546?s=46

Minecraft News (@MinecraftNewsUA) on X

Fun fact: #Minecraft Trial keys stand for the Omega keys?

Source - Transformers: Prime Series

Twitter · Jan 26, 2024, 6:53 PM

OH HELL NAH😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

HELL NAAAAAAAH

[heady sable]

This account is quite the joke, I honestly don't get them

[prisma niche]

They're doing this to get reactions/attention

[limber tiger]

This account is truly the worst one ever

[stoic junco]

I’d rather they announce minecraft is adding geometry dash

[chrome plover]

imagine if everything they tweet about becomes true

[devout barn]

Hey well, only possible because of the tech foundation that add-ons can build on top of, courtesy of the developers :)

[hoary forge]

CraftyMasterman?

I feel like I’ve seen that in one of his videos

[fading gull]

what is the name of the particle that appears when the lightning bolt is summoned?

[elfin flower]

lightning bolt is technically not a particle.

[teal acorn]

it is a entity

[wet shell]

Me when deferred on iOS:

[elfin flower]

2030

[acoustic zephyr]

🍊 today?

[sonic musk]

it could be

[toxic horizon]

Whats today?

[sonic musk]

1.20.60 stable

[toxic horizon]

Oh. Sweet. Hopefully

I can't wait for the block culling thing in stable

[heady sable]

Probably not since we only have had the first 1.20.70 preview last week

[sonic musk]

yeah I am just saying what could be

[heady sable]

My guess would be next week, although usually it is the same week as the 3rd preview of the new cycle (.22 preview). But since they have had a holiday break in between things could be different

[rotund pivot]

No

[stoic orchid]

It isn't 1.20.60 day today

[heady sable]

In the next hour there will be a post on a certain platform (named after the 24th number in the alphabet) about this manner by a person that goes by the name "MinecraftNewsUA"

[stoic orchid]

Breaking news. Ice cream is the best dessert.

[sonic musk]

no

[willow sequoia]

Xqaeter- I hate that social media platform. Too many ywieks on there.

[austere mirage]

Tomorrow?

[wet shell]

next week

[lapis sierra]

The way I see it I have one more week where I don't have to fix my Add-On

[toxic horizon]

lol

[celest sluice]

Same

[toxic horizon]

or a week to be fixing it to have it up and ready

[elfin flower]

me making sure that my json-ui stuff didn't break

[limber tiger]

can this dude close his account

[cerulean quarry]

the icons looks actually pretty nice

[rough path]

Why?

[limber tiger]

he has been trying to say this are real icons

but two of them are not

[cerulean quarry]

just two of them? Damn thats pretty OK

there so many ppls saying that 1.22 will be end update lmao

[limber tiger]

well they can say that not all of them are real

[dreamy bison]

didn't he also impersonate devs

[rough path]

Did he say that? I thought it was just reposting from a video

[rough path]

Yeah

[limber tiger]

well I looked at the ore ui textures files

and I cant find the controllers ones

[rough path]

Did he say it was from the textures files?

Just ask him where he gets the image

[chrome plover]

I think those icons relate to this "leaked development version" he tweeted about before https://twitter.com/Funny_Anar/status/1751970433535000694

[elfin flower]

I mean thay probably are, the lead Ore-UI team did a presentation on how it works aswell shows the UI designs, icons and such.

[limber tiger]

but is this a real thing

[chrome plover]

🤷‍♂️

[elfin flower]

well considering those icons that exists in the game, probably.

it's more like a concepts

not everything get added into the game

[hoary forge]

I’ve seen that tweet like earlier today

[hoary forge]

The controller one is not a real icon, but imo leaving images with almost to no context is not great.

[elfin flower]

it probably placeholder some kind I suppose but yeah, I wouldn't trust that twitter person either

[rough path]

Used to be against the dude...but then I learned hes just a kid...like all Mojavatar users pretending to be a dev is

[celest sluice]

He used those icons in a settings menu concept he posted earlier

That he made

[elfin flower]

kinda make sense since that account is kinda impersonation with made up assets

[celest sluice]

The concept wasn't too bad, but it didn't have the description texts the create/edit world screens have so felt kinda, empty?

[elfin flower]

the only thing that triggers me is that one of their "new hud ui coming" thing uses terrible json-ui .png files or more likely photoshopped to look that bad

[rough path]

well...hes banned from mc discord so haha

[hoary forge]

He DM’d me a couple of times before, one time was him wanting me to be in a group with him so I can share the stuff I find in Minecraft

and where exactly

[elfin flower]

basically trying to make you feed them contents

I can see that scheme somewhere

[stoic orchid]

I know Minecraft secrets. Did you know that Minecraft worlds are made of cubes?

[celest sluice]

And did you know that the sky darkens when you look at the sun?

I don't recommend it though

[rotund pivot]

did you know you can fall off the world if you walk far enough?

bet ya didn't 🙂

[stoic orchid]

like in real-life?

[rotund pivot]

good question

[languid tinsel]

Did you know Minecraft contains chickens?

[hoary forge]

Did you know that Mojang has a kayla?

[tropic chasm]

Did you know that real people created and work on Minecraft?

[celest sluice]

Did you know that Minecraft was made on a computer?

[teal acorn]

Did you know Minecraft was made with 3 cookies, 🍪++

[past wharf]

Did you know that before the grass on bedrock was superior and now it is as boring as on java 😭?

[celest sluice]

Don't remind me

[elfin flower]

Did you know that pocket edition got ported to raspberry pi?

[chrome plover]

Guys did you know that minecraft isn't being developed by notch anymore

[celest sluice]

Cmon man that's obvious. Give us something that's actually not well known

[tropic chasm]

You can find cows in Minecraft.

[celest sluice]

🤩

[tropic chasm]

Why does that sounds like something a tip would say when loading a world

[toxic horizon]

Wait what??

[elfin flower]

Did you know that bedrock screams at you for leaving floating trees?

[tropic chasm]

DONT LEAVE TREES FLOATING

[celest sluice]

Oh, I always had that muted so I forgot about it

[tropic chasm]

you monster it says too? Or is that for killing dolphins

[celest sluice]

Yes

Don't hurt dolphins.
You monster

[tropic chasm]

lol

another reason to kill the fake sharks

I mean-

[chrome plover]

So Have yall heard the news yet?
They're removing herobrine next update which means my automatic herobrine farm will break

[celest sluice]

Cry about it

[chrome plover]

Just mojang making bad decisions smh my head

[dreamy bison]

the earth is a dodecahedron

[devout barn]

Imagine being okay with Mojang telling us how to play the game. We deserve herobrine!!!

[willow sequoia]

Thanks

[eternal shoal]

Impossible

I was sure it was made of triangles

[ionic ocean]

Ah, shit. We're way past the Preview for this, so I guess I'll note this here.

I was looking forward to some of the new performance improvements to blocks presumably coming in 1.20.60, but I can't fully opt in to them. The new minecraft:geometry.full_block built-in geometry is bugged: it won't rotate with the minecraft:transformation component in permutations.

That means that all full, rotatable blocks (things like furnaces, observers, etc.) will have to continue using less performant custom models, probably at least for a month… maybe longer.

[ionic ocean]

Actually, minecraft:transformation is just fucked:

• Collision and selection box can be made to go out of the block space.
• Translation is inexplicably measured in full blocks instead of model units like the collision and selection box components.
• Translation isn't oriented the same was as the collision and selection box components. Translation uses world orientation: units get more positive from bottom-northwest to top-southeast. Collision and selection units get more positive from bottom-northeast to top-southwest.
• There's no configurable pivot point for any of the operations.

Actually, it might just be philosophically bad, too. The individual operations (translation, scale, rotation) are all bundled as a single component, and none of the fields support Molang, so you have to copy this component into all combinations of states if you would need some independent mixture handling of operations.

I think this has to be the worst component in the entire game.

[sleek grail]

Collision and selection box can be made to go out of the block space.
Believe they're Kayla mentioned knowing this

I'd asked someone about it and they said they'd talked to Kayla

[hasty grotto]

speaking of grass

did they remove foliage rotation at some point?

[elfin flower]

they didn't I think

[celest sluice]

Preview day

[sonic musk]

hopefully we get deferred on ios @wet shell

[lethal pumice]

Beta day?

[wet shell]

probably not but i hope

[dreamy bison]

rare example of eddy not expecting deffered on ios

[quasi wedge]

full, rotatable blocks can use the "minecraft:placement_direction" block trait. That being said, I don't think there are any alternatives for scale and rotation.

[hasty grotto]

because we're getting deferred rendering on nintendo switch

i looked at the files and its totally happening today

[celest sluice]

Lol

[ionic ocean]

Well, yes, that assigns the block state, but you still need to have permutations with minecraft:transformation, right?

[quasi wedge]

"permutations": [
            {
            "condition": "query.block_state('minecraft:cardinal_direction') == 'north'",
            "components": {
                "minecraft:transformation": {
                    "rotation": [0, 180, 0]
                }
            }
        },
        {
            "condition": "query.block_state('minecraft:cardinal_direction') == 'south'",
            "components": {
                "minecraft:transformation": {
                    "rotation": [0, 0, 0]
                }
            }
        },
        {
            "condition": "query.block_state('minecraft:cardinal_direction') == 'east'",
            "components": {
                "minecraft:transformation": {
                    "rotation": [0, 90, 0]
                }
            }
        },
        {
            "condition": "query.block_state('minecraft:cardinal_direction') == 'west'",
            "components": {
                "minecraft:transformation": {
                    "rotation": [0, 270, 0]
                }
            }
        }
        ]``` ah.. that's right

[celest sluice]

Lol

[quasi wedge]

Haven't tried using any of the new predefined geometries yet

[celest sluice]

It sucks that some components don't work properly on players. Namely the step height and jump ones

They function on the server side, but the client remains unchanged

[wet shell]

https://tenor.com/view/sad-gif-7523306793289960933

[lapis sierra]

Preview when?

[quasi wedge]

Who ordered before damageEvent?

[rough path]

Womp womp, seems like bedrock isnt getting vaults this week

[quasi wedge]

It's not preview time yet

[prisma niche]

I think I know what smokey is trying to do with that message

[hoary forge]

¿nehw weiverp

[sonic musk]

you sure?

[prisma niche]

^

[quasi wedge]

🤦‍♂️

[chrome plover]

oh I just realised lol

[sonic musk]

anyway java snapshot is out rn

[prisma niche]

I could be wrong

[quasi wedge]

did they finally announce it being discontinued?>

[sonic musk]

https://www.minecraft.net/article/minecraft-snapshot-24w05a

[rough path]

wdym

[prisma niche]

📸

if you know, you know

[rough path]

😛

[charred ocean]

oh well im back for update checking time

[celest sluice]

Now it's just preview when

[azure spade]

When Preview?

Ladies and Gentlemen, it is with great honour to announce that it might be preview day

When do Previews usually happen?

Previews usually occur on a Wednesday or Thursday between <t:1703692800:t> and <t:1703700000:t>

Jan 31, 2024, 4:02 PM

[sonic musk]

preview might be tomorrow

[wet shell]

maybe focused on deferred 👀

[charred ocean]

no i will prove that they are made of circles as well

[eternal shoal]

i hope

[wet shell]

reflections maybe?

[prisma niche]

Maybe next week

[sonic musk]

👀 yo?

[prisma niche]

Maybe they surprise us

[celest sluice]

They're always focused on deferred

Different teams anyway

[wet shell]

sad that i won’t get to play it for another few months 😢

[eternal shoal]

I need to transfer my normalmaps to deferred soon, I'm just waiting for deferred to be refined enough to make more work on it worthwhile.

[sonic musk]

android people gonna suffer from this move
unless you gonna make separate version

[prisma niche]

I bet reflections will only work if a texture uses a metallic map.

[celest sluice]

That wouldn't make sense imo

[eternal shoal]

why

[prisma niche]

RTX does that

[celest sluice]

That would exclude water for instance. And plastics can be shiny too

[prisma niche]

Idk how they'd make it work with normal maps

[celest sluice]

Reflect based on the normal?

[eternal shoal]

🤨

what do you mean

[sonic musk]

DirectX and Opengl platfrom differences
their normals are different
bump in dx is hole in opengl

[celest sluice]

It's something they already do but for point lights and directional lights

[charred ocean]

im back again

[eternal shoal]

it doesn't

[prisma niche]

I was looking at the MS docs, but I'd assume those blocks have reflections auto applied

[eternal shoal]

no

[rough path]

What difference between reflections and metallic

[celest sluice]

metallic surfaces just reflect a lot and tint too

dielectric surfaces also reflect, but not as much

[eternal shoal]

RTX doesn't have any auto applied pbr

[prisma niche]

That's interesting

what causes those reflections?

[celest sluice]

Isn't reflective by default?

[celest sluice]

basic PBR

[sonic musk]

yeah idk about reflections
only value for mirrors/reflections is 255,255,255

[prisma niche]

I will say RTX looks way better

[sonic musk]

unless i am mistaken here

[celest sluice]

PBR isn't just the textures. It's the way graphics is calculated

[eternal shoal]

zero roughness (blue channel)

[wet shell]

still no signs of preview

[prisma niche]

ohhh. That makes sense.

[celest sluice]

Wouldn't that make it emit light too?

The format for "PBR" textures is MER
M - etallic
E - missive
R - oughness

Red green and blue channels respectively

[eternal shoal]

it used to be like that, then I remember that in some versions everything was matte, then it was different and now idk

[grand void]

I wanna say "Beta when?", but, ig I'm in wrong timing

[celest sluice]

I almost thought...

[wet shell]

you got me there for a second

[hoary forge]

LOL

[eternal shoal]

but it is not the case that some specific blocks have properties set

[elfin flower]

feels like no beta today

[wet shell]

i guess so

[azure spade]

When Preview?

Ladies and Gentlemen, it is with great honour to announce that it might be preview day

When do Previews usually happen?

Previews usually occur on a Wednesday or Thursday between <t:1703692800:t> and <t:1703700000:t>

Jan 31, 2024, 4:02 PM

[rough path]

Y'all, calm down

[celest sluice]

No 😔

[elfin flower]

print this to y'all shirt

[heady sable]

Oh no.. the Preview hasn't been here for 43 minutes 😱

[wet shell]

https://tenor.com/view/sad-cry-emoji-funny-emoji-why-gif-20325239

[eternal shoal]

It works the same with deferred lol

[sonic musk]

for deferred yes

for rtx no
from the docs if we want mirrors
we have to use the 255 for all channels

[celest sluice]

Do metallic objects not emit light?

[sonic musk]

problem is that when green channel have even value of 1
it seems that both red and blue channel is ignored

[eternal shoal]

mirrors are a special case

they are even rendered completely separately from any reflections and work in a very strange way

[hoary forge]

LOL

[celest sluice]

https://tenor.com/view/yippee-happy-yippee-creature-yippee-meme-yippee-gif-gif-1489386840712152603

[rough path]

Erm technically mirrors reflect light thus are emissive /s

[wet shell]

yesss

[prisma niche]

don't know what is real anymore

[celest sluice]

Erm actually, it doesn't make light 🤓
Merely bounce light in its surroundings like any other non emissive surface

[grand void]

Doesn't look right...

[wet shell]

wait is it fake?

[dreamy bison]

not there for me

[wet shell]

😭

[rough path]

my led bathroom mirror does so checkmate

[limber tiger]

yes it LMAO

[celest sluice]

I want to do something bad

[heady sable]

Because it is photoshopped 🤦‍♂️

[limber tiger]

go ahead

[celest sluice]

😠

[upbeat surge]

pls dont do it again((

[hoary forge]

Be patient y’all. It can still release in a few minutes.

[limber tiger]

yeah fr

[heady sable]

Y'all should be more careful on the internet

[rough path]

Mods, ban these clowns for getting peoples hope high

[prisma niche]

you got it sir

[cursive pond]

I wouldn't lie to you 😦

[hoary forge]

@languid tinsel stop being lazy!!

[heady sable]

Uhm...

[sonic musk]

oh no

[elfin flower]

tactical nuke incoming

[rough path]

https://tenor.com/view/troll-troll-face-gif-25116980

[sonic musk]

💀

[heady sable]

1.70.20 when?

[wet shell]

looks like preview will be tomorrow

[prisma niche]

Real or Cake?

[upbeat surge]

😄

[celest sluice]

Stop

[wet shell]

https://youtu.be/OyGfdaacGyE?si=_Her9nQC_fpRYTbT

[chrome plover]

time machine

[wet shell]

skip to end

[rough path]

Never bc they alwas skip .20s and merge em to .30s

[celest sluice]

Darn

[grand void]

https://feedback.minecraft.net/hc/en-us/articles/23458154786829--Not-Minecraft-Beta-Preview-1-20-70-21 😈

[sonic musk]

💀 i clicked it so fast just cuz i saw 21

[rough path]

Womp womp, seems like bedrock isnt getting vaults this week

[celest sluice]

Or a preview for today 😦

[prisma niche]

or a late preview

[sonic musk]

yeah lmao

[pure gull]

I think because today is the celebration of 2nd year anniversary since Minecraft Preview announcement.

[prisma niche]

like last time

[celest sluice]

How long did we wait that time?

[cursive pond]

So to celebrate there is no preview

[hoary forge]

🍌

[prisma niche]

for me it was around 7:17 PM

[hoary forge]

:3

[celest sluice]

What time is it for you now?

[prisma niche]

6:53PM

[hoary forge]

last week 5:37pm for me, now it’s 5:55pm

[hasty grotto]

leaked dev build screenshot

[upbeat surge]

:3

[celest sluice]

11:57 AM for me now

[celest sluice]

I'm not clicking that

[chrome plover]

Do you see Banana man?

[hasty grotto]

high poly models with realistic fur simulation

[austere mirage]

beta tomorrow so

[languid tinsel]

No

[hoary forge]

;w;

[stoic orchid]

What day is it today?

is it Tuesday?

[chrome plover]

BANANA DAY, ... right?

[hoary forge]

hello kayla!!

[eternal shoal]

your last one

[stoic orchid]

wow.. tough crowd

[rough path]

its shoulders and back day ma dudes

[hoary forge]

kayla, you will be missed

[prisma niche]

I think it's Monday

[celest sluice]

Welp

[hoary forge]

Shoulders coming to Minecraft, confirmed?!

[chrome plover]

sad that they're shutting down the kayla gpt server center

[prisma niche]

😔

[wet shell]

deferred ios day

[celest sluice]

It's "be sad on Wednesday"-day

[eternal shoal]

android 🔛 🔝

[rough path]

Real af

Android supremacy

[pure gull]

Today is the last day of January

[lapis sierra]

Was there no preview today? I've been out.

[celest sluice]

No preview

[eternal shoal]

finally someone smart

[lapis sierra]

@languid tinsel Release the preview NOW

[sonic musk]

Oh shit I forgot about yesterday

[hoary forge]

Linux supremacy!!

[stoic orchid]

BeOS forever

[cursive pond]

But sometimes I need to run the game 😦

[chrome plover]

official support for bedrock on linux would be a dream come true

[pure gull]

HyperOS forever

[eternal shoal]

🤨

[livid jasper]

I have a PC at Home with Windows xp

[hoary forge]

all they need to do is open source bedrock :3

[eternal shoal]

HyperOS is android

[sonic musk]

Never gonna happen

[pure gull]

Yes, it is kinda a new operating system from Xiaomi

[livid jasper]

We need bedrock Server compiled for arm

[cursive pond]

But they won't 😦

[hasty grotto]

unless

wouldnt it be really bad if

[hoary forge]

mhm meaning no Bedrock for linux :<

[hasty grotto]

someone were to steal someones laptop

[eternal shoal]

it's not, it's a skin for android, just like OxygenOS, oneui and more

[hasty grotto]

and that laptop happened to have bedrock source code

[cursive pond]

There could be bedrock for Linux just like education edition for macos

[eternal shoal]

even harmonyos is android

[hasty grotto]

ohh what a tragedy

[celest sluice]

Then they lock you from their systems

[sonic musk]

Hmm and the thief went to jail

[livid jasper]

And bedrock dedicated Server For arm to Run IT on Raspberry pi

[hasty grotto]

yes

[cursive pond]

Pocketmine can probably run on raspberry pi

[sonic musk]

Bedrock for mac make sense rn

[pure gull]

Oh ok, it seems like a different name code of Operating System for Android like MIUI etc.

[cursive pond]

There was for a brief time before they disabled it and apple made side loading iOS apps on Mac impossible

[chrome plover]

i hope linux becomes more prominent in gaming, then mojang might consider it

[cursive pond]

I doubt they ever would. Currently all purchases are routed through the store of the game (e.g. Nintendo on switch)

[austere mirage]

So preview today ?

[pure gull]

I don't think Snapdragon 8 Gen improves Minecraft because of deferred preview

[sonic musk]

Not sure anymore

[hoary forge]

It’s definitely tomorrow

Previews are not usually this late

[sonic musk]

Yeah I don't see a pattern of snapshots and previews releasing on the same day lately

[quasi wedge]

pretty sure Kayla said it would be tomorrow

[quasi wedge]

If today is Tuesday, tomorrow is Wednesday (Preview)

[prisma niche]

Yes

[celest sluice]

Nice code reading

[quasi wedge]

I'm something of an intelligent species

[hasty grotto]

watch a minecraft news post suddenly popup

[languid tinsel]

It's the day I remind you that we appricate you! duhhh

[hoary forge]

We do? (I’m just kidding)

[stoic orchid]

😦

[hoary forge]

kayla is probably one of the coolest Mojangsters

[prisma niche]

Ight, see you lads tomorrow at this time

[magic fossil]

I am a bit curious ,do you frequently play community made addons ?

[hoary forge]

@stoic orchid thank you for being with us ❤️

[stoic orchid]

Sometimes! Though I do admit that MCPEDL download steps make it harder than I'd like. Anything you think I should check out?

[prisma niche]

I got one for yah

[rough path]

Kayla being forced to play our addons with our jank workarounds

[stoic orchid]

haha - of COURSE I play Poggy's Luminous Dreams!

[celest sluice]

Get Mojang to buy MCPEDL

[prisma niche]

What about my Add-On

[hoary forge]

I think he’s talking about Better on Bedrock, I worked on that one too

[prisma niche]

me and my pookie

[stoic orchid]

What value would we bring to this? How would the community react if this happened? What are the ways we could ruin this? - these are the sorts of questions that need to be asked before even considering a course of action like this.

[magic fossil]

can you check out my addon Gaia dimension when it's out ?

[rough path]

Mojang already has the marketplace

[stoic orchid]

sure! just ping me when it's available

[rough path]

Oh no...kayla is about to die from cringe bc youre using a workaround /s

[magic fossil]

Poggy you're famous !

[prisma niche]

Better on Bedrock :)

[celest sluice]

https://tenor.com/view/kronk-emperors-new-groove-well-you-got-me-gif-13478646

[magic fossil]

OFCCC

[stoic orchid]

Never heard of it. 😛

[prisma niche]

[cursive pond]

MCPEDL is not going to go away unless addon creators become ok with making less money on a platform like modrinth. Which isn't going to happen.

[prisma niche]

Time to send you it

[cursive pond]

Even though it's all kind of peanuts in the first place

[magic fossil]

Mhafy ships ?

[chrome plover]

I love peanuts

[quasi wedge]

In what world do you think you would make less money on Modrinth?

[cursive pond]

Modrinth has a single unobtrusive banner ad per page and a user base that skews towards using ad blockers.

Where is the money going to come from?

[quasi wedge]

You can't even make money from MCPEDL right now unless you're part of their "beta" program

[magic fossil]

about Gaia ! it's originally made by a talented Java developer ! we have been bringing it to bedrock for over a year now using your addon API(thanks you and the team for all the good works ❤️) it's a very cool mod and soon to be a cool addon ,you surely should play it when given the chance :D

[cursive pond]

Yeah but you can daisy chain adfly and linkvertise links

[quasi wedge]

Those aren't friendly user experiences

[cursive pond]

Modrinth isn't going to allow that since they host the content

You're right it's not

[quasi wedge]

Which is great ^

[cursive pond]

Yep

And that's why many addon creators aren't going to use it

[magic fossil]

Also we won't be monetized so there won't be stupid adlinks either 😛

[celest sluice]

I know 😔

[quasi wedge]

Where is the data that supports this?

Everyone who has seen Modrinth can't wait for it to be accessible to bedrock

[cursive pond]

Yeah people who don't make you step from link to link will have no problem migrating

[magic fossil]

How is Modrinth better than mcpedl ,i don't understand ?

[chrome plover]

better ui

[celest sluice]

I never used modrinth so it's alien to me

[rough path]

Typical, small indie group going against Overwolf round 2

[cursive pond]

I doubt you'll see a single one with daisy chained ad links migrate. No I don't have any data to support that. But if you think modrinth can somehow provide a higher payout with a single banner ad then I'm not really sure what to say.

[elfin flower]

BeOS mentioned

[magic fossil]

more assymetrical version of forge vs fabric

[prisma niche]

It's way better

not a lot of ads

nice UI

[elfin flower]

same

[magic fossil]

no advertisers are stupid enough to pay for that.

[chrome plover]

I feel like most people won't be downloading their addons from mcpedl anymore once there's a significant amount of creators on modrinth

[cursive pond]

Well yeah of course no one here would download from mcpedl if they had a choice

The question is will you have a choice

[magic fossil]

mcpedl is just old and famous

it have the legacy

and trust ig

[quasi wedge]

I don't trust mcpedl

[cursive pond]

All I trust is that half the addons on there are going to try to get me to install malware to get to the download link xD

[quasi wedge]

they deliberately implemented a feature that makes you have to wait to download an add-on directly from their site and paywalled direct access

[ionic ocean]

God, it's such a terrible user experience.

Sad that there isn't a good platform for Bedrock hobbyists and creators. It's not like most of these things are desgined to bring in money anyway.

[odd onyx]

literally, this is so awful

[magic fossil]

they still need to pay their employees somehow

[quasi wedge]

They make plenty of money off the site

[rough path]

Return of Sumi

[quasi wedge]

Not only that, there are other ways of generating revenue through a paid subscription that don't involve throttling and damaging the free user experiernce

[cursive pond]

Assuming modrinth starts allowing bedrock content I'm sure the legit people will move, but the ones that already try to pump ads ads ads certainly won't...

[elfin flower]

funny enough, there's one time where the progress bar just go 1% up by one second and it takes me half of 2 mins just to go direct link.

[magic fossil]

isn't mcpedl implementing a point system like cf ?

[rich vault]

And no adequate way to get compensated for your work either, since you can't sell addons or mods, at least not if it becomes too profitable

[quasi wedge]

They've been working on built in ad revenue for 2 years at this point

[rough path]

Funny since both mcpedl and CurseForge are owned by the same company

[cursive pond]

Mcpedl is somehow worse than CF ever was, but I'm not sure if that's just the demographic that consumes the content being different or what

I mean CF was never great but I at least wouldn't describe it as outright malicious

[prisma niche]

Their reward program is releasing sometime

[quasi wedge]

yeah in 2025

[magic fossil]

It's hard to find direct advertisers tbh

[rough path]

https://x.com/SmokeyStack_/status/1745797275987624226?s=20 Once again bringing this up

SmokeyStack (@SmokeyStack_) on X

🤦Why is it so hard to download add-ons these days from MCPEDL. Most submissions have download links that lead you to a redirect, that require you to download things, then redirects you to the actual file. I get y'all want money for your work...but this is not the way

Twitter · Jan 12, 2024, 1:18 PM

[prisma niche]

nope. I can't tell you because I am part of it. It is secret

[cursive pond]

I mean yeah but what is the way then? Paywall your addon is the only one I see.

[quasi wedge]

actually signed up for that lol

[prisma niche]

yea. Wanted to see the rates and stuff

it's shocking

[chrome plover]

Tbf they do have rules against having to download things and stuff like that

[rough path]

Dont have ad links that forces you to download malware and/or set up a patreon and/or get a part time job

[rough path]

And yet 😉 this slipped through

[cursive pond]

And no one enforcing them

[quasi wedge]

The issue though, when you are relying on third party links, is that there is no system to catch when the poster updates the link to add additional steps

Which is what a lot of them do

[chrome plover]

yup and I hear their support team isn't the best for reporting things

[quasi wedge]

There's also nothing to catch when the 3rd party link decides they're going to make you do additional steps regardless of what you set up, which is what Linkvertise has done

[cursive pond]

So basically paywall the addon behind a patreon? Which I'm fine with.

Part time job I don't really get. That's just saying make money somewhere else xD

[rich vault]

Can't legally sell add-ons or mods. Look at what happened to physics mod, it used to be paid on patreon and would bring XXXXX$ a month, before the dev had to make it free due to mojang request

[rough path]

I meant patreon as a support system like sneak peaks or early access etc

[chrome plover]

I think the issue is that mcpedl was allowing ad links in the first place. Now they can't just disallow it because their whole site would collapse even if it causes them many problems with moderation

[cursive pond]

How is early access not just selling in the eyes of the Eula?

[magic fossil]

Yeah ,but most paywall addons are too expensive for the majority of the addon demographics

[cursive pond]

I mean regardless if you're small enough nothing will happen... worst case scenario they say stop

[cursive pond]

Well then we're back to ad links :p

[rich vault]

Wouldn't early access be considered selling it? It's tough to draw a line with this kind of stuff, and where there is uncertainty there is risk. Like would physics mod have been taken down if it was selling just early access to updates, but was as profitable? Ig we'll never know

[cursive pond]

Also were they doing something else bad? Like why are plugins able to sell with no issues but that would be taken down? Were they bundling actual Mojang code or something?

[rough path]

🤷 Afaik early access/sneak peaks is fine

[rich vault]

I don't see a 100% risk free strategy to make a living off of add-ons as a hobbyist. It's possible with java shaders since they're technically additions for a minecraft mod like optifine or iris, not minecraft directly, but its nothing like that with add-ons or BE shaders

[cursive pond]

That's kinda my position... the answer is kinda just are you ok with doing it for free.

[magic fossil]

10$ is a week worth of food here where i live XD i can't imagine paying for patreon ,i would starve.

[ionic ocean]

They could implement their add-ons on a map and find a publisher, I guess…

[sleek grail]

I mean now that addons are coming to marketplace, they could do that too

It'll be easier as a map isn't needed now

[ionic ocean]

Yeah, I saw the lang files. But when?

[chrome plover]

aren't publishers mostly a scam that take a huge cut?

[rough path]

Soon™️

[cursive pond]

I do always find it a tad amusing how protective people will be over a single json file, the structure of which is basically legos, versus massive code bases like paper, viaversion, geyser, etc that are just free and under very permissive licenses :p

[sleek grail]

The lowest I've seen is 15%

[chrome plover]

oh that's not too bad ig

[sleek grail]

Usually around that 15-25%, some include advertising and keyart some don't

[quasi wedge]

I wish the marketplace would go the route that Fortnite has for it's creator experience

[cursive pond]

The experiences word 🙂

[sleek grail]

What's that about

[quasi wedge]

Anyone can pretty much create their own maps and post them

approved creators get money based on playtime in their map

[cursive pond]

The mineplex spin off thing is trying to do that lol

[chrome plover]

I don't think mojang wants free maps on the marketplace, they're making too much money with the way it is

[cursive pond]

Seems too easy to exploitable when you start getting into cashing out and conversions

So I can see why they wouldn't want to deal with that aspect of it either

[quasi wedge]

There are always bad actors, but that's why you have to be approved to make money

[cursive pond]

I mean more the image of the platform

[quasi wedge]

I don't see how it would hurt the image of the platform, roblox does the same thing

[cursive pond]

And the image of Roblox is good?

[quasi wedge]

It allows creators to actually get their content out there

using 3rd party sites to promote your work to a very small subset of people sucks

If anything, allowing that would drive competition up on the marketplace.

That being said, I don't see that ever working because of the current pay model that the marketplace has.

[chrome plover]

yea the marketplace would have to be completely redesigned

[cursive pond]

Why compete when you have a platform enforced monopoly on consoles :p

I do wonder of consoles would even allow such a system... some of the platforms have very quirky rules about user generated content

[quasi wedge]

yeah, and no one likes that monopoly

[cursive pond]

Yeah, but it is 😦

And Microsoft is at least a third of it xD

[charred geode]

why???

[cursive pond]

Because they own Xbox?

[charred geode]

this ^

[charred geode]

sorry it took me a while to scroll back to the message

[stoic orchid]

So like, no seriously, what day is it today?

[past wharf]

wednesday

[cerulean quarry]

No beta to day?

🤨

[rough path]

The 21st night of september

[stoic orchid]

Need to figure out what day it is first!

[cerulean quarry]

I am not sure either

🤷‍♂️

[past wharf]

for japaneses, it is thursday

[chrome plover]

https://tenor.com/view/monday-garfield-calendar-gif-12783783

[dreamy bison]

january

[charred geode]

yes

[rich vault]

for some people it could be night ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[charred geode]

it is

[rich vault]

what night is it today??

[cerulean quarry]

Chat GPT solves it!

[charred geode]

that doesn't make sense

how could a today be a night

[cerulean quarry]

To get the system time and date in assembly language, you can use the Int 21h interrupt. The AH register should be set to 2Ch to get the system time and date. The CH register will contain the hour, CL register will contain the minute, DH register will contain the second, and DL register will contain the hundredth of a second 1. Here is an example code snippet that demonstrates how to get and display the system time:

org 100h
mov ah, 2ch
int 21h
mov dl, ch
call itoa99
mov ah, 02h
mov dl, ':'
int 21h
mov dl, cl
call itoa99
ret

itoa99:
push bx
push ax
xor ax, ax
mov al, dl
mov bl, 10d
div bl
add ax, 3030h
mov bx, ax
mov dl, bl
mov ah, 02h
int 21h
mov dl, bh
int 21h
pop ax
pop bx
ret

This code snippet uses the itoa99 subroutine to convert the hour and minute values to ASCII characters and display them on the screen. The itoa99 subroutine takes a single argument in the DL register and returns the ASCII characters for the two digits in the BL and BH registers 1.

👍

[rich vault]

that's exactly what I was thinking, everything is very clear now

[magic fossil]

first of febuary

[heady sable]

Got the notification

1.20.70.21 is here

[chrome plover]

wait whaat

[chrome plover]

https://feedback.minecraft.net/hc/en-us/articles/23693972754957-Minecraft-Beta-Preview-1-20-70-21

[prisma niche]

@wet shell

I did read IOS deferred

[cerulean quarry]

Hey Kayla i made i pack for you to get a date and time, its really useful maybe it will arrive to market place as well one day 😉

[chrome plover]

yooo this is monumental for big eddy

[heady sable]

Woohoo!!!

[rich vault]

Shadows :0

[sonic musk]

@wet shell yo let's gooo

[rich vault]

Congrats

[prisma niche]

:O

[sonic musk]

Now he's gonna move on to the switch 😂

[cerulean quarry]

hey mods do you think you can create a post your self?

[prisma niche]

only admins can

[cerulean quarry]

bot is death or something

oh

[quasi wedge]

@rough path it happened

[sonic musk]

I got blinded by his profile

[heady sable]

@hoary forge Update please

Let your bot do the thingy

[chrome plover]

eyy this is real nice

[prisma niche]

:O

[quasi wedge]

can't find the mention, but I think someone asked about trying to get info from the last entity that was hit within the past couple days - week

[sonic musk]

Is it out on ms store?

[prisma niche]

Shadows from point lights. I'll take that over reflections

[prisma niche]

nop

[quasi wedge]

I guess I'll finally take a look at armor trims

[prisma niche]

I did not expect that tbh

[rough path]

I was wrong

[sonic musk]

I did lol

[elfin flower]

I see no mention about shadowmap fix on mali-gpu

time to unexist myself

[rich vault]

Imagine if new features appear in shader code first

[rough path]

#1202325916244508723

[charred geode]

interesting choice of words

how sensitive can people be?

[sonic musk]

Ig kids and stuff

[charred geode]

it's funny that it is a bug report, like, which kid will type the damage command and see the word suggested anyway

[hoary forge]

Looks like it lol

[charred geode]

i still wish we got 1.20.60 today 🙁

[willow sequoia]

Fr

[plush wedge]

I wonder when that damage type is even used

[chrome plover]

maybe when someone does /kill? not sure tho

[ionic ocean]

Which means self_destruct is kinda not a good name

[plush wedge]

Huh, so it is /kill. Java calls that one generic_kill. It seems weird to imply that it's self inflicted when usually you /kill other stuff

[rough path]

Is this part of the docs website youve been working on?

[plush wedge]

One question, can you detect suicide damage in a sensor if it's inflicted with /damage instead of /kill?

[rough path]

https://twitter.com/JORAX79/status/1752780920975933610?s=19

Josh Mulanax (@JORAX79) on X

If your New Year's resolution was to try Minecraft Preview, you have a chance to do so now:

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Twitter · Jan 31, 2024, 7:48 PM

[stoic orchid]

good timing

[wet shell]

hurray

[rich vault]

finally you're here

[ionic ocean]

Don't think there are any discrepancies for the command or scripting interface for damaging

[charred geode]

huh, isn't that "fatal" damage type? why would it be called suicide or self-distruct? it literally means "Self" "Kill"

[plush wedge]

fatal isn't a damage type, any kind of damage can be fatal if it kills

[alpine summit]

isn't it a suicide if the entity damages itself

[charred geode]

would you call player1 using /kill to kill player2 suicide?

[limber tiger]

Hey! I need some help from java players
with my monitor (Oddysey G3), when I go full screen mode on MC, it locks in 60FPS even without Vsync turned on
In window mode it's 120 but full screen it's 60
if any of you has a solution, it would be cool

[elfin flower]

probably windows doing their thing again

I seen familiar problem but on bedrock too

[sonic musk]

what gpu do you have

[limber tiger]

3060

[sonic musk]

try looking in the nvidia control panel

[limber tiger]

already did it

nothing change

[sonic musk]

https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/all/forced-fullscreen-vsync/48107e7d-0f73-4b15-b692-3364cad52f46

this is a similar issue

[sonic musk]

new snap shot https://www.minecraft.net/article/minecraft-snapshot-24w05b

[charred ocean]

yes

[cerulean quarry]

is this going to bedrock as well?

[dreamy bison]

i hope not

[cerulean quarry]

ya, same

jump boost with 255 emplifier is really useful

[dreamy bison]

does that even do anything special on bedrock

either way limitations = cringe

[cerulean quarry]

nah that was joke

[dreamy bison]

lol

[rough path]

MC-118857 - Effect amplifier is read/written as byte from NBT despite being stored as an integer
MC-268172 - Game crashes when saving an entity's effect above 127

This is probably why they changed it

[cerulean quarry]

but its not related to Bedrock

[hasty grotto]

i wouldnt mind limitations if we could turn them off

what if i want to crash my game with the fill command 😡

[cerulean quarry]

lmao

i mean limitation is not same thing as fix

right?

but sometimes you should limit some things

[sonic musk]

finally i have fixed thi s

[sonic musk]

now i just need to find how to fix this

[heady sable]

You can't afaik. I have the same issue with my device. Thought someone said it is due to a version switcher but I doubt it

[elfin flower]

I had that issue on my phone before

though it gone as it own mind so

[south bay]

Im using version switcher too but this also happens on my phone

Also im using BedrockTimize which modifies json-ui so maybe its json-ui related

[alpine summit]

By the way, what's the scripting leader role about

[silver flume]

(I'm going to gaslight you) which one?

kidding, it's so we can have certain admin discussions about script related server things

like how we handle forums and channels and such

[alpine summit]

[tropic chasm]

@ionic ocean Is this it? https://bugs.mojang.com/browse/MCPE-173799

I can only guess it came back in the latest preview versions from your recent messages related to minecraft:transformation. Can’t tell for sure, haven’t tested anything on the previews for a while

[ionic ocean]

Yeah, they absolutely have not fixed this. There are at least a half dozen bugs related to this component.

[tropic chasm]

They did fixed it for stable though

(Well, last time I tested)

Mind adding your discoveries on the report?

[ionic ocean]

I've gotta find time to actually issue the reports, but I can link back.

[stoic orchid]

Pretty confident we fixed this.

If there are critical bugs you're still seeing with this component, please let me know.

Related, we have pivot_point coming soon for this component to help with scale and rotation actions.

[past wharf]

I don't understand, why they did that ?

[toxic horizon]

#1019692489596215388 message

Those are probably why

nobody really uses that high anyways

There isn't really any need to

[lapis sierra]

NICE

[past wharf]

Ah ok

[ionic ocean]

I will gleefully issue reports if new ones are needed and ping you back when that's done.

[tropic chasm]

Yeah, it’s fixed on stable at least, from my last testings

[ionic ocean]

By the looks of it, they fixed this with geometry but didn't fix the collision or selection boxes. The latter is indeed just a single block.

Also, in limiting geometry, they introduced a bug where the component doesn't seem to actually look at compiled permutations, just the original components geometry. That issue's a bit more complicated and needs a full report.

[stoic orchid]

we know about the collision/selection box thing and made the decision that it wasn't going to cause creators to get into too bad of a situation if they accidentally exceeded box size limits.

[ionic ocean]

Huh, interesting. Is that to say it's supported? Like… if I issue mods abusing such, will they break in the future?

I think a good example is the door: just 2 blocks.

[stoic orchid]

they might! but we'll likely have to provide a back-compat option. I certainly wouldn't build a nuclear power plant that depended on it 🙂

[ionic ocean]

Building a nuclear power plant and preparing to cry about it 6 months from now 🫡

[silver flume]

Wait what?? Extending the box isn't considered a bug?? Sick! (I'm going to build two nuclear power plants to one up you cronono)

[stoic orchid]

oh it's still a bug. just not one that we are prioritizing fixing.

the geometry one was something we needed to fix, though.

as always, be careful when building functionality on top of a bug 🙂

[silver flume]

Ah devastating, I'll avoid absuing it then haha

[simple badger]

Lmao

So true

[stoic orchid]

(credit to this classic xkcd comic: https://xkcd.com/2347/)

[wet shell]

may i share my deferred gameplay in here?

[lethal pumice]

beta day?

[ivory rain]

🤏

i hope devs take community developers into consideration when adding features, not just marketplace developers. like people who actually experiment with experimental features, should be praised - if anything.

[silver flume]

I was about to agree with you, then I read your name. So no I disagree @ivory rain sorry bad opinion

[ivory rain]

its alright. i was about to report you anyway regardless of the outcome

[silver flume]

Dang

[ivory rain]

happy bday tho everyday

[silver flume]

Thank you, you too

[hoary forge]

Wait, who’s birthday is it?

[quasi wedge]

Everyone's

[stoic orchid]

The reason why many Mojangers are on this Discord is to listen to and take community sentiment into consideration. If we just wanted to listen to Marketplace partners, we wouldn’t be here 🙂

[rough path]

And we appreciate y'all for listening to the community

[stoic orchid]

And we appreciate you all!!!

[ionic ocean]

Was there a deleted message up this thread?

Oh, I'm dumb. #1019692489596215388 message

Yeah, they're here to listen (when we're not being too rambuctious, LOL).

[magic fossil]

Tbh you bedrock mojangsters are more awesome than your java counterpart ,thanks you for everything 🥰

[past wharf]

Hmmm the only thing that make me mad is when they remove cool bedrock stuff for parity

[magic fossil]

that's why xilefian isn't here.

i hate it when they do that

java should be in parity with bedrock ,not the opposite

[past wharf]

Java have also lots of good features

[celest sluice]

Time to remove the nether roof 😄

[past wharf]

Also on thing I don't like is that they didn't added cool legacy features like great elytras and mainly faster minecarts

[simple badger]

Or it could be like the Amplified Nether mod which just extends the nether all the way up to the height limit

But it does come at a performance cost

[obsidian lark]

There's a community just like this is for Java and the devs listen to our feedback as well.
In fact, the /execute update on both platforms was due to our community's feedback.

[magic fossil]

yeah but java seems much more toxic

you develop datapacks btw ?

[obsidian lark]

I make content for both versions. I just have like a decade of Java mapmaking experience. Started with redstone and now I use datapacks.

[obsidian lark]

The casual community can be kind of toxic, but the creator community is better.

[gusty sedge]

I'd say it should be taking the best from both games. Like, they should've added the cobweb crafting recipe to java rather than removing it from bedrock, but still adding java /execute to bedrock like they did

[devout barn]

add render dragon to java 😈

[obsidian lark]

Rewriting the renderer again so it's more modern would help performance.

They should really consider dropping OpenGL too. LWJGL has Vulkan support.

[magic fossil]

the creator community is extremely toxic to me ,or atleast the modding community

most i know of are litered with trolls ,politics and people hating on bedrock in general

they are very hostile ,unlike most bedrock addon community which are much more chill

[hasty grotto]

what about really old devices?

[hasty grotto]

i remember helenangel saying something like that

but later xilefian denied it

maybe it was miscommunication?

[obsidian lark]

Unsupported.

[obsidian lark]

The Java modding community is definitely toxic (or maybe it's just Forge). Most of the datapack communities I know of are pretty chill though.

[sonic musk]

open gl can't be dropped for another 20 years yet

[obsidian lark]

It is becoming unsupported on more and more platforms. Like it's deprecated on Mac.

The Java devs also like joking about how their new renderer (Blaze3D) is only like 10 years out of date.

[sonic musk]

i am not sure about that
apple really wanted to have their own thingy
but yeah the opengl was updated like what 6 years ago?

[magic fossil]

are they hostile to bedrock ?

[obsidian lark]

There's the occasional joke, but it's not as bad as other places. I'm an admin over on the Minecraft Commands server and most of our staff are Marketplace creators.

[magic fossil]

are they aware that MCPEDL/Free Addons community exist ?

from what i've seen the java community have this misconception that it is illegal to sell free addons and that we are restricted to mcfunctions and changing existing entities

[obsidian lark]

Yes, but we occasionally get people who think that. However, people usually chime in and "educate" them on the subject. 😅

[magic fossil]

or believing that addons and datapacks are interchangeable on both versions.

[magic fossil]

oh ,that's neat 🤔

that sounds more educated and informed than the average forge modding community then lol

[obsidian lark]

I think people are starting to see that addons are more powerful. Like I'll show scripting stuff and people are impressed at how powerful it is.

[magic fossil]

mhafy ship goes brrrr

[magic fossil]

can you dm me a few datapacks community servers ? I'm interested.

[hasty grotto]

how thoughtful

[alpine summit]

wait you guys have ears?? So I got this AWESOME suggestion that you must hear out...

... after this glorious nap I'm boutta partake in

[magic fossil]

@digital frost !

[digital frost]

o/

[magic fossil]

welcome o/

[digital frost]

The only developers of mods I know (& chat with) are from Fabric 😆

[magic fossil]

Fabric have the same problem of being marginalize by forge lol ,but not as severe

you can use #1072983602821861426 for all the things you need to craft an addon :D

[sonic musk]

the reverse shadow

[magic fossil]

llama

[magic fossil]

@digital frost

[ivory rain]

i want a day where we can optionally hide entity shadows in the client rp instead of resulting into drastic unintended measures such as setting the collision to zero

[rotund pivot]

A better solution is to allow us to change the entity shadow size like in java modding

[toxic horizon]

What if they used the dimensions that Minecaft China has?

Isn't Minecraft China also C++?

[magic fossil]

Minecraft china is NOT bedrock

Different codebase ,different team ,different company

China is like a seperate world

it don't have to care about parity,or functionality

[rough path]

Actually it's a separate country

[magic fossil]

there's magic and wizard on the chinese version

[toxic horizon]

yes, but it is also written in C++

There's a Java and Bedrock edition for China seperately

[magic fossil]

You mean pc edition ?

[toxic horizon]

what?

[magic fossil]

in China there's no bedrock or java as far as i know

there's only one china edition

It uses different codebase and is develop by a different team seperated from java and bedrock.

[toxic horizon]

China Edition are country locked versions of Java and Bedrock edition

[rough path]

Could you elaborate what this means though? Are you talking about how Custom Dimensions API is?

[magic fossil]

actually no ,China edition IS a seperate edition that is not bedrock or java.

[toxic horizon]

Yes

[magic fossil]

it have its own marketplace ,ui interface ,features and codebase that is very different from bedrock and java

[rough path]

They could...but...we don't know what the format loosk like. what if it's really badly implemented

[toxic horizon]

fair

the format could be an issue

[magic fossil]

isn't cn edition develop by a team seperate from mojang ?

[rough path]

Not my point

[magic fossil]

not only the format ,the way it's implemented could be very poorly and very rushed ,it also base on a different codebase and api system so it's not comparable really.

[toxic horizon]

What codebase does it use then?

[magic fossil]

cn edition don't have to worry about parity and have full autonomy

it uses its own -_-

not java or bedrock

[toxic horizon]

Yes, ik

It's a localised version of the game

[magic fossil]

you have to ask the cn team for that ,which lives in china and require you to have a chinese citizenship id card ,household registration and number

[magic fossil]

it's...not really.

[toxic horizon]

what is it then :¬/

[magic fossil]

it's minecraft...but very different.

[toxic horizon]

Yes, a localised version of Minecraft

[magic fossil]

what i wanna say is

it's not comparable