🎲game-room

[rose cape]

me an intellectual: bow should host bowistan

[frank latch]

oh no
the hurricane knocked our internet out

[spring bison]

this is the dumbest idea ever

[wraith quarry]

so Bosnia can get sea access

[rose cape]

just host on fishes wifi 🤫

[wraith quarry]

yes

[frank latch]

Fish doesn't have wifi

[rose cape]

@wraith quarry true?

[quick idol]

Talk bad about him quick

[spring bison]

no

[quick idol]

I think hes bad at war thunder

[wraith quarry]

i dont

[rose cape]

why

[wraith quarry]

because im lazy

[rose cape]

how are you talking rn

[wraith quarry]

internet

[frank latch]

He's terrible at war thunder
and only just realized now, 1200+ hours in that to have fun in the game
you don't need to grind for planes

[rose cape]

do you have ethernet

[spring bison]

he is elon must

[wraith quarry]

yes

[frank latch]

what must elon?

[rose cape]

@frank latch use fish's ethernet

[spring bison]

Elon Must is the richest man in the world

[quick idol]

crazy

[wraith quarry]

@frank latch I will use my sword

to stab u

[frank latch]

it's made of wood 👽

[spring bison]

,roll 20

[haughty inlet]

paradox_interactive

:game_die: You rolled 20

[wraith quarry]

no its not

guh

[frank latch]

oh right
that one

[spring bison]

@frank latch 100 points of damage, you die

[frank latch]

[frank latch]

,roll 20 Block with my own sword

[haughty inlet]

builderofworldz

:game_die: You rolled 3

[frank latch]

[quick idol]

Why didnt you use your bow

[frank latch]

no arrows 😔

[quick idol]

Hit him with the bow?

[frank latch]

ah
yes

[spring bison]

@frank latch your sword flings back at you and you take 1000 extra damage

[frank latch]

real

[wraith quarry]

rate this sword

[frank latch]

,roll 20 Hit fish with my bow

[haughty inlet]

builderofworldz

:game_die: You rolled 19

[frank latch]

LET'S GO

[quick idol]

,roll 20 overthrow lebron

[haughty inlet]

ercanramanov

:game_die: You rolled 18

[frank latch]

carpet doxxed

I know your address

[wraith quarry]

i know your address

[quick idol]

He also knows your address

[frank latch]

nuh uh

[spring bison]

if this rolled a 21 it would have worked

[quick idol]

,roll 20

[haughty inlet]

ercanramanov

:game_die: You rolled 162

[quick idol]

is that enough

[spring bison]

no

[quick idol]

,roll infinity

[haughty inlet]

ercanramanov

Invalid argument provided.

Usage:
roll [max number or options to choose from]

[frank latch]

,roll 21

[haughty inlet]

builderofworldz

:game_die: You rolled 7

[spring bison]

if this rolled a 163 it would have worked

[quick idol]

,roll infinity, infinity

[haughty inlet]

ercanramanov

:game_die: infinity

[frank latch]

,roll infinity, not infinity

[haughty inlet]

builderofworldz

:game_die: not infinity

[frank latch]

[quick idol]

@spring bison this enough?

[spring bison]

if this rolled a infinity+ it would have worked

[knotty cosmos]

real

[frank latch]

,roll 20 Nuke Lebron

[haughty inlet]

builderofworldz

:game_die: You rolled 20

[spring bison]

didnt roll a 21

so it dosent work

[frank latch]

,roll 21

[haughty inlet]

builderofworldz

:game_die: You rolled 4

[frank latch]

,roll 21

[haughty inlet]

builderofworldz

:game_die: You rolled 10

[frank latch]

grrr

[pine copper]

Someone is mad, what’s wrong?

[frank latch]

I didn't get to nuke Lebron

[pine copper]

Sad day for us all than 😔

Better luck next time

[fallow lark]

I think it's funnier shorter

[hollow garden]

This ending was disheartening

@spring bison I fixed the country

but I got a worse ending

the fucking supreme court impeached me 😔✊

[brazen tendon]

Putos de Mierda

[hollow garden]

Real

[marsh lance]

😭

Did anyone host today

[hollow garden]

Look at this tho pat

[hollow garden]

Blumi

[hollow garden]

PAT PAT PAT

hi hi hiii

[prime compass]

Kleź!?

[hollow garden]

@wild mason when are you hosting ilkella again

We are starving blumi

please

[prime compass]

The question is

[hollow garden]

I'm going to go red

[prime compass]

When are YOU hosting

2032?

[hollow garden]

the communist revolution must spread to sordland

[hollow garden]

Soon

[prime compass]

☭

[hollow garden]

Maybe next Thursday

[prime compass]

Soon could mean 2 months

[prime compass]

What time

Hm

[hollow garden]

The usual

[prime compass]

At 8?

Cant we do on friday frfr

[hollow garden]

no I have plans on Friday

[prime compass]

Real

[marsh lance]

KLEZ KLEZ KLEZ

[marsh lance]

GOOD LORD

WHAT DID YOU DO

[spring bison]

how is bro finishing so many playthroughs this fast

[spring bison]

manage the economy with common sense

🤯

[marsh lance]

Yes but i never thought that this would be possible

[vital latch]

ok game room im at the dentist

brothers going first I have time to dread what may happen

if I have cavitys my social security number is 72018649183639174

[midnight ocean]

If it’s a good dentist it will take like 5 minutes and you won’t even realize it’s ivermectin

[midnight ocean]

Brush your teeth

[lucid oriole]

@pulsar lake Wish me a happy birthday

[vital latch]

I do but not enough

[lucid oriole]

I don’t brush my teeth because I don’t eat

[midnight ocean]

How do we know it’s really your birthday

[lucid oriole]

it isn’t

[vital latch]

SAD birthday

[midnight ocean]

SAD NONBIRTHDAY

[spring bison]

what

[frank latch]

~bt

[hardy saffron]

@frank latch: If I have a toothache, my social security number is 72018649183639174.

[spring bison]

a conqueror appeared in scandinavia

[frank latch]

that was a terrible bad translate
do better next time

[vital latch]

close enough

[spring bison]

the vikings have conquered all of scandinavia

[frank latch]

southern Norway and most of Demark

[spring bison]

👽

[vital latch]

those are also vikings

[spring bison]

they are vikings

[vital latch]

just independent ones

[spring bison]

alien

[vital latch]

[frank latch]

it must be united though

[spring bison]

as soon as the guy with the conqueror trait dies it will collapse

[frank latch]

as any good empire does

[spring bison]

lie

[vital latch]

not all empires must die eventually

[vital latch]

the world is unpredictable

for all we know we couldn't even be real human beings

we could all be hallucinating our entire life

[spring bison]

what

[vital latch]

one big drug trip

[vital latch]

life is just organized chaos

it seems to make sense

it doesnt make any sense

[spring bison]

alien

[frank latch]

the reason there is chaos
is because we try to bring order to chaos
yet the chaos is actually order

[spring bison]

this yap is alien

[vital latch]

chaos can be order but order can't be chaos

[frank latch]

exactly

[spring bison]

chaos cant be order

[vital latch]

yes it can

[frank latch]

yes it can

[spring bison]

then order can be chaos

[frank latch]

it can't though

[vital latch]

if chaos is completely random shit with no rhyme or reason, it can infact chaotically end up being order

[spring bison]

it can because if chaos is order then order is also chaos

[vital latch]

but order can't be chaos because order blocks off chaos as an option

[marsh lance]

My theory on what bow means is that chaos is the natural form of life, the only order comes from artificial creation

[vital latch]

but chaos doesn't block out order as an option

[spring bison]

schizo talk

[vital latch]

order can only be chaos when chaos is order, and therefore chaos can be order but order can't be chaos

[frank latch]

I was just yapping and having fun
it's not necessarily supposed to have an actual meaning

[spring bison]

this is Nietzsche level talk

[marsh lance]

The chaos of life itself already has its own order, that being ecosystems, environments, and biology, but that natural order is surrounded by the chaos of just basic existence

[spring bison]

lie

[marsh lance]

Did you even read the message holy shot

[spring bison]

the ecosystem is natural yet is an type of order

[marsh lance]

How do you read that quick

[spring bison]

if anything falls off order the whole system collapses

[marsh lance]

MFW I SAID THAT IT WAS A NATURAL ORDER 😭😭

[spring bison]

ok my brain is hallucinating

the self-sabotage is insane

[marsh lance]

You immediately said “lie” after i send my message vro

[vital latch]

life is naturally orderly, only through breaking that rule and embracing chaos entirely will we ascend

[spring bison]

Nietzsche level message

[vital latch]

stop talking in english

[spring bison]

you should do a how to make no sense course

[frank latch]

and a type of chaos

[vital latch]

its a sociatal construct

we must toss children onto random islands and have them grow up alone

[marsh lance]

https://tenor.com/view/yuji-yuji-itadori-jjk-jujutsu-kaisen-anime-gif-17420200129893998883

[vital latch]

as therefore they will be uninterupted by societies rules and come up with the only truly unique ideas

[spring bison]

this means that everyone in this chat is getting thrown into random islands

[marsh lance]

They will DIE bro 😭

[spring bison]

thats the point

[marsh lance]

Even you?

[spring bison]

also lie

[vital latch]

🥱

[vital latch]

net gain if even one survives

[spring bison]

im 12 billion years old

[vital latch]

we'll finally be able to reinvent the wheel

and unlock a entirely new tech tree for it

[spring bison]

@vital latch is Friedrich Nietzsche

confirmed

@vital latch why did you do this

[midnight ocean]

What’s cappebing

[midnight ocean]

This was such an L warn btw

Potato has the downright weirdest warns

[midnight ocean]

This was an L on my part actually because I watched it happen and didn’t warn for it

Do you remember Dale

You were around during his era

[spring bison]

is that the real one tho

[spring bison]

yes

[midnight ocean]

He sent something stupid like “repost if you hate gays” in Royal tavern and cosmics dumbass copypastad it

[spring bison]

insane

[midnight ocean]

The Royal tavern iq debuff is real

[spring bison]

royal tavern users have a brain drain

[frank latch]

I solved lights out in minecraft!

[midnight ocean]

It affected me too though because as a full active mod I saw that and all I did was alienate react

[vital latch]

kind of

[lucid oriole]

they playing radiohead at my gym oh my lord

[spring bison]

what was this btw

[midnight ocean]

Oh yeah I got in a bit of a disagreement with the admins

I was eventually able to blackmail them to let me back in

[vital latch]

it was because I asked to get banned so I could get a life

[frank latch]

how were you ever able to get mod?

[vital latch]

and used a prank i did awhile back with (x) as an excuse

[midnight ocean]

I was a good guy in 2023

Being a mod changes you

[spring bison]

insane

[rose forge]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/781573144699600926/1292975203957215292/Minecraft_24w40a_-_Singleplayer_2024-10-07_18-20-04.mp4
I love minecarts

[lucid oriole]

@short turret do u need any help with the medieval map

[midnight ocean]

This was the only time I’ve ever been genuinely moderated and it was by sea wolf. It was completely stupid and not my fault btw

[vital latch]

you used to be sitting in a dnd moral corner with me 😔

[midnight ocean]

I’ve always been pure neutral wdym

Maybe I was lawful good at one point

[vital latch]

we could've been the chaotic good of worldbox

[midnight ocean]

Ok I was never chaotic good

[lucid oriole]

i took multiple tests and they all put me on the border between chaotic good and chaotic neutral

[vital latch]

I had you at neutral good when I did the moral alignment chart that was never finished

[midnight ocean]

Your ass is chaotic neutral you are not good

[lucid oriole]

What bad have I done?

Nothing

What good have I done?

Much

[midnight ocean]

Give an example

[vital latch]

if I came back to it, you'd be pure neutral

[midnight ocean]

He’s chaotic neutral

Pure neutral doesn’t provoke half the map in a map wars for a challenge

[lucid oriole]

I tithe 18% to the church

[midnight ocean]

The church just came up with that as a way to get more money btw

Become a Protestant

[lucid oriole]

i’m atheist

[lucid oriole]

also a lot of protestant churches still do tithes

[spring bison]

bro literally just summoned out of nowhere

[midnight ocean]

What cringers did they not read the 99 theses

[rose forge]

ew

[midnight ocean]

NSO come back

[lucid oriole]

Tithing as a moral responsibility vs. requirement of the church

[marsh lance]

You did too lil bro

[spring bison]

lie

[lucid oriole]

https://tenor.com/view/dog-fire-i-think-it-hurts-tiny-stupid-gif-6873816306338304371

[midnight ocean]

Didn’t the Catholic Church say it was a moral responsibility as well or no

[lucid oriole]

this will happen if you do Not tithe

Hell. is full of sinners

[vital latch]

cult summoning noises

[lucid oriole]

@wild mason we can do stuff whenever in the skyrim one right

[midnight ocean]

Improve navy

I miss being able to just say improve navy in manneva it just worked

[lucid oriole]

what if i hosted right now

[midnight ocean]

I’m in class

[lucid oriole]

Leave?

[midnight ocean]

No it’s important

[lucid oriole]

are u in college

[midnight ocean]

Just cause I can leave doesn’t mean it isn’t important

[marsh lance]

Ok i tried to search it up you genuinely have no life bro 😭

[spring bison]

👽

[marsh lance]

I went back to the first month you were here and I couldn’t even scroll to the bottom 😭

[marsh lance]

With the highest respect because im no better

[spring bison]

what

[lucid oriole]

ur on ur phone

Clearly not important enough

[marsh lance]

It kept going

[spring bison]

oh you're on mobile

right

[midnight ocean]

It hasn’t started yet

[marsh lance]

😥

[lucid oriole]

allegedly

[midnight ocean]

Shouldn’t you be in college too

[lucid oriole]

Nope!

[midnight ocean]

Your wasting your talents on map wars

You could genuinely study sociology or something

[marsh lance]

So chat is it true im a mcsauce alt

[midnight ocean]

I have zero clue who mcsauce is

[vital latch]

yes

[lucid oriole]

The biggest reason why I’m not doing community college is because I think I’d kill myself if I had to do 4 more years of academic work

[spring bison]

who the fuck is that

[marsh lance]

Nso said i was mcsauce alt many months ago

[spring bison]

this was peak

[midnight ocean]

That’s understandable but like the potential pay increase though

[lucid oriole]

I make 150k a year ☝️

[midnight ocean]

Top ten lies

[marsh lance]

Evil cosmicua

[frank latch]

as what if you don't mind me asking?

[midnight ocean]

A schizophrenic

[vital latch]

sitting in your moms basement doing map wars?

[frank latch]

real

[frank latch]

isn't that positioned already filled though?

[spring bison]

I should do one of these battle royales again

[midnight ocean]

Technically saves him 150k in housing costs

[vital latch]

must have rich parents

[lucid oriole]

I will be soon

I’ve been waiting for an apprenticeship for a few months 😢

[vital latch]

good point

[midnight ocean]

In what

[lucid oriole]

Electrician

[spring bison]

the house alone is atleast a million dollars

[midnight ocean]

That’s a massive W I have a friend who’s doing that too

[lucid oriole]

Electricians can make up to 100k a year starting out btw

[midnight ocean]

It’s a tough job

Underrated

[lucid oriole]

Literally the cushiest trade

High pay + easy work compared to everything else

[midnight ocean]

Not cushy compared to most 9-5s though

[lucid oriole]

It pays way better though

[midnight ocean]

Yeah it’s a W

[lucid oriole]

I literally cannot do a job where I’m not doing something

[vital latch]

the cushiest job is druggie btw

[lucid oriole]

after i relapsed i was working at a gas station and it was the most grueling work i’ve ever done

[frank latch]

dealer?

[midnight ocean]

I mean you can actually do something in a 9 to 5 but like who actually does stuff in those jobs

[frank latch]

or just

nah

[vital latch]

no using

[frank latch]

ah
I see

-200k a year

[spring bison]

get into drug cooking instead of studying for a job

[midnight ocean]

Breaking bad spread the myth that you can actually make money with meth

[spring bison]

North Korea:

[midnight ocean]

Cocaine is way more valuable there’s a reason the cartels turned Gus down

[lucid oriole]

You can but networking + distributing is impossible if you don’t know what you’re doing + they misrepresented the drug industry, Walter’s meth wouldn’t be valuable because it gets people higher, it’d be more valuable because you can put more filler into it and have way more product

Nothing you don’t make yourself is going to be 99% purity

Every step of the way someone cuts it to make a profit

[midnight ocean]

Also Gus was in an extremely special position

Most of his money wasn’t even from the drug trade it was from his legal chicken business

[lucid oriole]

Yep!

[midnight ocean]

That allowed him to finance and also transport the drugs easily

[frank latch]

👌

[lucid oriole]

I’m pretty sure by the time it hit the streets, it wouldn’t even be blue anymore

[midnight ocean]

The only reason he was even doing that was to get back at the cartel

[midnight ocean]

It wouldn’t even be blue in the first place if it was as pure as they say

Pure meth is clear

[lucid oriole]

No

The chemical process they used made it blue

[midnight ocean]

The blue would come from impurities though

[lucid oriole]

Different molecular structure I’m pretty sure

[midnight ocean]

They’ve said this themselves

[lucid oriole]

Like how it’s bound together

[midnight ocean]

They only kept it blue cause it looked cool

[sullen pawn]

im hosting

[lucid oriole]

dgaf

[lucid oriole]

i’m not a chemist 🤫

Can U provide a source for this this is actually interesting

Also, like

Even if Walter was fucked up and needed the money

He’s an incredibly talented chemist

He could literally find a better paying job than what meth would give him

Not necessarily at Grey Matter btw

Idk why he’s working at a high school when he has the credentials to get a job literally anywhere ❓

[sullen pawn]

what if i.. hosted this

who are the mw regulars here

[midnight ocean]

I just looked it up rn but originally it was just from the very reliable YouTube shorts

[lucid oriole]

Give me Punjab

[frank latch]

@sullen pawn I declare war on the Red Alliance in America

[midnight ocean]

Don’t take my word for it take Kai smiths

[sullen pawn]

what?

[spring bison]

like nobody

[sullen pawn]

wait im gonna redraw europe

[spring bison]

most people only play mws that they are already in or are "popular"

[sullen pawn]

plz never refer to people who type in a discord server alot as "popular"

[spring bison]

im talking about the mws

not the individual

[sullen pawn]

oh

[midnight ocean]

Chirality is such a cool word

[lucid oriole]

https://www.financialsamurai.com/do-you-make-as-much-as-a-union-worker-electrician/ btw

[wraith quarry]

just saw this in french class

this is my new favorite french word

[spring bison]

why is bro on french class

[wraith quarry]

to

learn

french

??

[spring bison]

that

is

not

what

I

meant

??

[midnight ocean]

I have a friend studying something related to this and he blew up the circuits of an entire room of girls trying to fix their lamp so it’s harder than some people may think

All the electrical outlets stopped working

[lucid oriole]

It isn’t hard if you aren’t stupid

My mind is like

Oriented for math and sociology

[spring bison]

he is just stupid

[lucid oriole]

Idk how to describe it but those 2 I pick up on very well

I could’ve been a theoretical physicist in another life

like sheldon

[midnight ocean]

I mean all he had was a screwdriver and he did genuinely fix it but he got too overconfident and tried add something and then it exploded

[wraith quarry]

electricity is hard to understand imo

[midnight ocean]

Real

[lucid oriole]

quantum level yeah

I don’t think it’d be too hard

[spring bison]

he probably messed up the energy regulation making all of the room's electricity go to the lamp in one go

[midnight ocean]

Do you have any idea what you just typed out

[spring bison]

yes?

[lucid oriole]

@midnight ocean what are you majoring in

[midnight ocean]

@lucid oriole how far along are you in your trade/studies

[lucid oriole]

I’m waiting for a position to be open for an apprenticeship

[midnight ocean]

Majoring in we will cross that bridge when we get to it

[lucid oriole]

It takes months

Huge waitlist

[midnight ocean]

Do you have any knowledge or experience you’ve built on your own

[lucid oriole]

the way it works in oregon u can only have one apprentice at a time

[lucid oriole]

Nope!

[midnight ocean]

Idk anything about being an electrician but I’m sure that wouldn’t hurt

[lucid oriole]

I studied economics for mapwars and it made me a communist btw

[midnight ocean]

You should just do economics

[lucid oriole]

I know nothing about that career path

[midnight ocean]

Requires college tbf

[lucid oriole]

also more of the same problem with law

[wraith quarry]

poor bro interpreted it wrong 😔

[lucid oriole]

i will kill myself if i am required to do

[lucid oriole]

Shut the fuckup

[midnight ocean]

Law just sucks

[wraith quarry]

no 👽 '\

[spring bison]

lets remove the law

[wraith quarry]

anarcho-capitalism would be great

[midnight ocean]

Not the law, law

[lucid oriole]

People very rarely get punished for perjury 🤔

[midnight ocean]

Yeah because it has to be proven right

[spring bison]

LAST TO SURVIVE THE PURGE IN 24 HOURS WINS 1 MILLION DOLLARS

[lucid oriole]

The rate at which people get punished for perjury is dropping at the same rate that corporations are facing large amounts of lawsuits 🤔

what does this mean

[wraith quarry]

'dem libruls just dont understand how great anarcho-capitalism will be
the socialist propaganda has corrupted them, they cannot see logic

[midnight ocean]

Large corporations my beloved

[frank latch]

"your honor, I did indeed not kill my twin brother"

[lucid oriole]

I would die on the front line for John D. Rockefeller

[frank latch]

what if more than 1 person survives?

[spring bison]

EA should buy the US government

[wraith quarry]

yes

[spring bison]

1v1 on fortnite

looser dies irl

[wraith quarry]

okay but seriously
we need another president like Teddy Roosevelt 🙏

[frank latch]

and... more than 2 people?

[wraith quarry]

I pray

[midnight ocean]

The stupidest argument I have ever heard for a corporatocracy was “corporations love making money so why would they do anything bad if it meant they lose money” like bro have you ever played an Ubisoft game

[spring bison]

1v1v1

[wraith quarry]

we need somebody good

[frank latch]

free for all?

[spring bison]

yes

[lucid oriole]

You would call him a radical and worry about the future of this country under socialism

[spring bison]

on fortnite

loosers die irl

[wraith quarry]

okay bro

[frank latch]

so just fortnite
but they die irl

[lucid oriole]

a ubisoft game

not an

A Ubisoft game

[wraith quarry]

ong

[lucid oriole]

the “you” sound doesn’t need “an”

[wraith quarry]

not to mention the number of times corporations have literally started mini-wars against unionizing/striking workers

like, who do you think the workers will be

🤯

the people

[midnight ocean]

The guy was also an Elon musk Stan

[sullen pawn]

the store didnt have tooth brushes today

[lucid oriole]

Wow!

So what you’re saying is we should

[sullen pawn]

freaking port riots

[lucid oriole]

Kill them

[wraith quarry]

will you shut up

[lucid oriole]

Have U read Das Kapital

Buddy

Neither have I

google wage theft

[frosty drum]

Hello chat

[midnight ocean]

If Marx was so communist why didn’t he steal from the rich and give to the poor

[frank latch]

Hello Skillerz

[wraith quarry]

ngl it's not the port riots

[sullen pawn]

what if i hosted here

[sullen pawn]

ok in all fr i havnt been effected yet

[lucid oriole]

what if i.. Killed you

[wraith quarry]

because he was a broke bum who was butthurt about being broke

[sullen pawn]

i'd die

[midnight ocean]

Real

[frank latch]

isn't that cus companies built stockpiles?

[sullen pawn]

SHUT THE FUCK UP

[wraith quarry]

yeah
the port strikes won't start affecting us for a while

[sullen pawn]

KARL MARX IS A SIGMA

[frank latch]

so
it shouldn't affect us for a bit

[wraith quarry]

you sound like an echo

shut up

[sullen pawn]

why don't they just.. compromise

[frank latch]

you're an echo

[lucid oriole]

Actually Marx wasn’t even the founder of communism, communist doctrine existed long before Marx wrote Das Kapital and the Manifesto was the work of not only Marx but a convention of communist thinkers from all over western europe

Also maybe if you

[wraith quarry]

nuh uh

[lucid oriole]

Read Marx

[wraith quarry]

yap

[lucid oriole]

You would know

[frosty drum]

W

[midnight ocean]

Jesus was the first communist he told people to give to the needy

[wraith quarry]

this is why religion is evil

fr

[lucid oriole]

Christian communist movements are so funny to me

[frank latch]

I should read his manifesto

[wraith quarry]

actually

I do wonder

[lucid oriole]

The Manifesto is a very good read

[wraith quarry]

why is most of christianity, at least in the U.S
against communism

like

it doesnt inherentely go against any christian beliefs

[lucid oriole]

It doesn’t just talk about why the capitalists are stinky and evil but also about the origin of the bourgeoisie and why things are how they are

[midnight ocean]

Because religion has always been tied with conservative politics

[lucid oriole]

Because modern christianity is a tool of the ruling class to destroy their political enemies

[midnight ocean]

Especially evangelical Christianity

[wraith quarry]

ah

so ideology

[lucid oriole]

No. Christian movements have traditionally been in line with supporting the layman against oppressive forces

[midnight ocean]

Back in the 1900s Christian’s complained about everything that’s become normal today like woman being able to dress normally

[midnight ocean]

Not in America

[lucid oriole]

It wasn’t until evangelical movements in the 50s and 60s that Christianity became intertwined with conservative ideology and not until later that it became inseparable with neo-conservatism

[frank latch]

hey
in 100 years the social climate will change similarly

[midnight ocean]

In 100 years we’re all gonna be dead due to a war or mass disaster

But if not then yeah

[wraith quarry]

in 100 years we're all gonna be dead from old age

[midnight ocean]

Maybe not all of us

Actually we’re all high ranks yeah

[lucid oriole]

Those christians were by far the minority 🤫 the prohibition and women’s suffrage movements were intertwined with Christianity and especially the moral aspect of Jesus’s teachings

Same with the civil rights too actually

[midnight ocean]

I mean it’s literally built into the Bible with how hard they shame Eve

[lucid oriole]

MLK was the son of reverend

[lucid oriole]

They literally don’t btw

[midnight ocean]

They made the woman be the stupid one to eat the apple

[lucid oriole]

Certain translations do but the ultimate word of God supports the idea that adam and eve are equals

[vital latch]

2 small cavities not a problem yet

[spring bison]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/548359749343641620/1228166608619311174/RDT_20240411_1221532296292698612128417.gif

[midnight ocean]

Bro what brush your teeth got damn

[vital latch]

brother on the other hand has 6 and 2 need filling so I win

[midnight ocean]

When was paradise lost written I’ve only read synopsis but I remember in it they don’t treat eve and Adam equally

[lucid oriole]

Idek how many fillings I have

[vital latch]

apparently the problem was more so a lack of flossing

[wraith quarry]

brsh ur teeth

[lucid oriole]

that’s.. not in the christian canon

[midnight ocean]

Oh it’s always a lack of flossing

[wraith quarry]

bros do not take care of themselves 😭

[midnight ocean]

Nobody in America cares about the Christian canon

[frank latch]

Life expectency might be higher
who knows

[wraith quarry]

idek how I don't have cavities

i dont floss

i've never gotten one

[midnight ocean]

Half of American Christian’s haven’t even read the entire bible

[frank latch]

[spring bison]

cavities only appear because of eating certain things

[wraith quarry]

like what

[frank latch]

Cosmic and his brother only eat candy

[lucid oriole]

What destroyed my faith in the Christian God was the fact that he is meant to represent the ultimate moral authority and that all he does is inherently moral

That does not line up with the actions he takes

[wraith quarry]

ah yes

the holocaust was moral according to that line of logic

[lucid oriole]

Can you fucking read holy shit

[midnight ocean]

Remember the one time in the bible where a guy collects firewood on the lords day and they stone him to death for it

[frosty drum]

I knew someone who had 6 cavities in one appointment

[spring bison]

I dont know for sure but its not too wild to assume its mainly processed goods

[lucid oriole]

No..?

[vital latch]

I deadass eat cheese and bread

thats almost it

[midnight ocean]

I think it was in numbers

[frank latch]

French:

[lucid oriole]

Of course 😭

God also orders a genocide in numbers

[spring bison]

genocide

[midnight ocean]

Yeah numbers was written by a psychopath

If god is real and is just then why does France exist

[frank latch]

why does England exist?

[wraith quarry]

cus of the devil

[midnight ocean]

The devil who is just a part of god btw

[wraith quarry]

tho idk why god doesnt just kill the devil 🤔

[midnight ocean]

If France is part of god then god sucks

[wraith quarry]

is there any reason why in the bible

[sullen pawn]

game room

[frank latch]

we should read it

[midnight ocean]

Probably a few bad ones

[frank latch]

Garlic

[midnight ocean]

Bible reading club real

[sullen pawn]

its not his job

[frank latch]

I sort of mean

it

[lucid oriole]

No?

[sullen pawn]

if he were to expel the devil he might aswell just allow everyone into the kingdom of heaven

[wraith quarry]

why doesnt he

[spring bison]

because it is a canon event

[lucid oriole]

satan is satan and god is god

[frank latch]

ah
makes sense

[sullen pawn]

the devil is an evil, but a nessesary one
without the devil there would be no temptation to sin

[midnight ocean]

Either god is all powerful or Satan and humans have free will and he is not all powerful

[wraith quarry]

how is that necessary guh

[sullen pawn]

a man must earn his way into heaven by proving he deserves to be there

[sullen pawn]

heaven is literally eternal happiness and bliss, you don't get in it for free

[wraith quarry]

that's stupid

[sullen pawn]

??

no it isnt??

[frank latch]

I deserve to be there

[spring bison]

this is literally hellish

[wraith quarry]

if it's an all knowing and all loving god why must his subjects suffer for literally existing

[sullen pawn]

if god allowed all souls into heaven, it would become corrupted

[frank latch]

oh wait
heaven?
nvm

I'm not getting in there

[midnight ocean]

This would be fine except for the stupid part where you have to be religious and Christian to be truly moral in gods eyes

[sullen pawn]

they dont suffer for existing, they suffer for sinning

[sullen pawn]

(theres no proof god said that btw, just those who mis-translated his words)

[spring bison]

spending all of eternity in blissfull happiness is hellish

[wraith quarry]

life isnt all sunshine in rainbows whether you sin or not

[midnight ocean]

???

[wraith quarry]

methanphetamine

[midnight ocean]

It isn’t if your happy all the time

[sullen pawn]

but if you are able to resist sinning or to not sin thru the horrors of life, you are earning your ticket into heaven

[spring bison]

lie

[midnight ocean]

If your happy how can you be unhappy

[wraith quarry]

why cant the entire universe just be heavan, no suffering, no sin, just eternal bliss and happiness forever

[sullen pawn]

less than 100 years of trying for eternity with all of your friends, pets, family

[frosty drum]

Are we talking about the Bible

[frank latch]

Gambling, Alcohol, Drugs:

[sullen pawn]

because an evil soul would come along and ruin it for everyone

[spring bison]

you will literally be stuck in this state for all of eternity

[midnight ocean]

Atheists gotta stop using this argument btw theists have adapted to it like bacteria to penicillin

[spring bison]

you will live thro the timespan of multiple universes

[sullen pawn]

god didnt create temptaiton he merley found out how to adapt to it

[frosty drum]

Garden of Eden

[wraith quarry]

why can't there just not be an evil soul

an all powerful entity should be able to stop that from happening 😭

[midnight ocean]

So there’s things in the universe not created by god

[sullen pawn]

because then we wouldnt have free will

[frank latch]

±

dang it

[marsh lance]

Honestly truth

[wraith quarry]

we dont need that

[frank latch]

£

[sullen pawn]

god wants us to have free will, if we have free will we will be able to sin

[sullen pawn]

😭

if we dont have free will theres no point in living

[frank latch]

do we have free will?

[midnight ocean]

Why does god want us to sin

[sullen pawn]

god litro gave us free will because its a great thing to have

[marsh lance]

I’d rather live a life full of real happiness and real experiences other than eternal bliss

[wraith quarry]

that's fine

[sullen pawn]

yes

[marsh lance]

That sounds like an illusion

[frosty drum]

Animals in Zoos:

[sullen pawn]

you can have free will and be trapped

[frank latch]

how can you be sure?

[spring bison]

tbh the bible dosent define everything in the religion

[sullen pawn]

because i can raise my left arm whenever i want

[marsh lance]

No free will = no point in living
No point in living = having free will

[midnight ocean]

What’s your opinion on the idea that every thing that happens can be predicted by what happened before dating back to the original expansion/creation of the universe

[frank latch]

you were definitely raising your left arm after or before you said this

[sullen pawn]

i a ctually hanvt raised it :p

[marsh lance]

Im banning having a left arm

[sullen pawn]

a tiger in a zoo can choose to roar, or to not roar

thats free will

[midnight ocean]

I’m so happy my class is pure yapping so I can focus on discord instead

[sullen pawn]

it still must obey the laws of physics

@visual plover help me educate these people plz

[marsh lance]

L BAD STUDEN

[midnight ocean]

I am literally taking yapping 101 rn im not even exaggerating

[visual plover]

About what?

[marsh lance]

In a religious viewpoint, you must understand it as like, a trial almost

[midnight ocean]

I am taking yapology

[sullen pawn]

they are saying that god should just get rid of sinning and the devil

[marsh lance]

If you prove yourself stoic and faithful you will earn eternal bliss

[sullen pawn]

and im explaining why he wont

[wraith quarry]

skip the trial, just give me the product
i didnt sign up for the trial

[visual plover]

God created man without sin

[frosty drum]

Until Revelations

[visual plover]

Its because of man we have sin

[midnight ocean]

@visual plover garlic claims god did not make sin but didn’t he make everything

[marsh lance]

And during your mortal life, you are tested time and time again, temptations by evil and the devil or demons and such

[sullen pawn]

im saying that if god removes sin, man looses his free will, god does not want us to loose our free will because he is kind

[frosty drum]

On Easter we should recite the entire bible

[visual plover]

I agree

Without sin, there is no free will

[frank latch]

yes
but
theoretically
(note, I'm not trying to start or argue against any religion or belief, I just think this could be an interesting conversation)

If everything that happens before you determines the environment, genes, mental pathways you were raised in or with which causes you to make decisions certain ways because of that.

Is that free will?

[sullen pawn]

yep

[midnight ocean]

Isn’t it weird that the only point of free will is to sin though

[visual plover]

Although God created Adam and Eve without sin

[sullen pawn]

thats not the only point

[marsh lance]

But, if you resist the “trial of life” and remain faithful and true you basically are balling

[wraith quarry]

it kinda is

[visual plover]

It is Eve/Satan to blame for sin

[midnight ocean]

Then how are free will and sin inseparable

[visual plover]

Then once man was banished to earth from Eden, sin expanded and became worse and worse over time

[wraith quarry]

then god should kill satan and everybody can live happily

[frosty drum]

They gave themselves sin by eating the fruit from the tree of Knowledge

[wraith quarry]

nobody has to die or suffer in the world then

[sullen pawn]

because we have the OPTION to sin, it is our job to resist the temptation

[visual plover]

Guess what? He banished him to hell for a reason

Satan is not why we sin

[wraith quarry]

banishment =/= killing

kill satan and no more temptation

simple

[sullen pawn]

god is kind, he did not want to kill satan but satan needed to be punished

[frank latch]

This chat doesn't look like it's intellectual anymore
it's just a religion debate

[visual plover]

Why would an all loving and merciful God kill someone or something just because he disagreed with God?

[midnight ocean]

Didn’t Satan literally make Adam and Eve eat the apple

[wraith quarry]

yes

[visual plover]

Yes

[sullen pawn]

its a respectful debate though

[visual plover]

Which unleashed sin unto man

[frosty drum]

But they had a choice not to

[sullen pawn]

eve shouldve resisted though

[marsh lance]

Isnt satan also just like, the judge of hell, isnt lucifer the guy that does all rhe work

[sullen pawn]

^

[wraith quarry]

if a merciful god understood what it'd do to humanity he would

[frank latch]

yes
respectful
but there aren't any profound or meaningful points or logic outside of belief or religion

[visual plover]

Lucifer/Satan is not the judge or ruler of hell

[midnight ocean]

Is it not literally in the Bible that he tricks people into sinning

[visual plover]

He is in hell like everyone else

[marsh lance]

Crey zee

[sullen pawn]

thats how the media portrays it though

[visual plover]

😭

[sullen pawn]

so alot of people r confused

(i agree with u btw)

[visual plover]

Its the media for a reason

[sullen pawn]

im just saying alot of people think he is because thats what tv shows do

[visual plover]

Satan is not directly responsible for mans sins

[frank latch]

I should read the bible ngl

[visual plover]

Satan influences people into doing bad things but he is not the direct reason we commit those sinful acts

[marsh lance]

He only influences them, man has free will to either resist or embrace evil

[marsh lance]

Yeah

[visual plover]

^^

Exacly

This is where free will comes in again

[marsh lance]

Idk what you guys are on about 😭 garlic is right

[midnight ocean]

He was pretty direct in the garden of Eden

[frank latch]

Fish is yappin

[wraith quarry]

yeah, ngl if there even is a god
i will never understand this

[marsh lance]

Its easy to see when you look at through a tolerant and understanding lense

[visual plover]

It was still Eves choice to bite the fruit

[marsh lance]

Well wdym tho

[visual plover]

(not an apple btw)

[marsh lance]

Allow me to explain

[wraith quarry]

no

please

dont

[marsh lance]

@wraith quarry you have free will correct?

[sullen pawn]

do we even know what fruit it was

[marsh lance]

Why don’t you want me to explain vro

[visual plover]

What do you not understand? I cant try to help explain

[visual plover]

No

[midnight ocean]

Firstly if they weren’t supposed to eat the fruit why was it there in the first place secondly she didn’t know what it was going to do at all

[wraith quarry]

because you won't convince me

im sorry

[sullen pawn]

progress

[midnight ocean]

Ignore fish he’s being a doofus

[marsh lance]

Im not trying to convert you or anything, im not even religious

[visual plover]

God gave Adam and Eve the choice and told them to never eat from the tree as it would "remove" their immortality and unlish sin unto them.

He created it to give them the free choice

[wraith quarry]

that's not what im saying

[visual plover]

"Do you wish to stay in Eden forever?" or "Do you wish to be banished unto earth and have sin"

[spring bison]

huh

[visual plover]

Its all a testament to God loving us so he gives us a choice in all matters

We all have a choice to persue good or evil

[frank latch]

⭐

[midnight ocean]

It was literally inevitable that the fruit would be eaten if they were given free choice and an eternity of time with the fruit they were destined to eat it

[sullen pawn]

does moldova have a coast on the black

[frank latch]

uhh
which nation is this?

[sullen pawn]

the i havnt finished the borders-republic

[sullen pawn]

nope

[frank latch]

So
The EU?

[visual plover]

That implies its inevitable to do any bad action, given enough time. Which isnt true. I will never murder someone no matter how much time I have

[spring bison]

if you give them bessarabia yes

[visual plover]

It doesnt matter if I am alive forever, it is still my choice to do something or not

[marsh lance]

I think both sides here are making good points, but it is easy to understand how free will can be influenced by sin

[visual plover]

To say its inevitable is just a testament to weak will

[midnight ocean]

Idk if I lived for a million years I think I would maybe become crazy enough especially if I have done everything else by that point

[visual plover]

Thats your choice

[midnight ocean]

Imagine being in a Groundhog Day scenario

[visual plover]

Its all about freewill

[visual plover]

I still wouldnt do evil

Its a choice

No matter how much time, its still your choice

[wraith quarry]

I'd nuke earth

[marsh lance]

Unreal

[midnight ocean]

Yeah I know that’s not true you would be surprised how easily humans go crazy a few thousand loops into a day you would be broken

[sullen pawn]

a study was done with rats where they had access to water, and water with addictive drugs
when given things to do in their cage, they mostly just bred and played with toys and played with eachother, almost all the rats took one or two sips of the drugged water and never did again
when given NOTHING TO DO, all they did was breed and OD on the drugged water

Adam and eve were the first set of rats, and instead of accepting their surroundings and being happy they got greedy and did the drugs
(basically the rats tasting the drugged water was just them finding out what it was)

[visual plover]

No matter how many times I relived the same day over and over, I would never kill my mom. I would never kill a kid. No matter what, you have a choice at the end of the day

[visual plover]

Thats a bad analogy

Adam never wanted to eat the fruit

Eve was manipulated

[midnight ocean]

Humans change over time, in an infinite amount of time something that changes should theoretically become everything at some point that’s just basic logic

[sullen pawn]

true 🤔

[midnight ocean]

I think there was another reason the rats ended up like that too

[visual plover]

Well thankfully, thats not how God created us

[frank latch]

I'd honestly be okay with that

[visual plover]

Humans dont live forever

[spring bison]

this is the effect of happiness

[visual plover]

We do when we go to Heaven

But when we go to Heaven, we dont sin

[midnight ocean]

Yet Adam and Eve were immortal

Weren’t they

[visual plover]

They were in Eden. Its very different then a human on earth

And they were directly created in Gods image

Adam and Eve are extremely different to you and I

[spring bison]

in the first they had an easy source of happiness and in the second they didnt which is why they took the drugs as a source of "happiness" instead

[midnight ocean]

How is that relevant

[visual plover]

Are you and I handcrafted by God? No, we are the result of our parents having sex and giving birth. Adam and Eve were directly created by God himself

[midnight ocean]

This is why famous rich people often end up doing drugs or worse btw

[visual plover]

Huge distinction

Also the opportunities and lifes they had in Eden were drasticially different then those here on Earth

[midnight ocean]

Exactly what is the distinction

Besides like looks

[frank latch]

I must like pain or something

[frank latch]

or take things for granted

[midnight ocean]

Also considering human life originated in Africa according to Christianity Adam and Eve were likely dark skin just gonna add that

[sullen pawn]

yep

[spring bison]

I never heard of this

[midnight ocean]

Wdym

[visual plover]

Creation method, they were made fully mature by God himself.

They were created without sin and in perfect innocence, they had no knowledge of Good or Evil.

They had a direct relationship to God himself. They literally talked with him.

They lived in Eden.

HUGE differences

[midnight ocean]

Isn’t it like common knowledge humans first evolved in like North Africa

[wraith quarry]

not necessarily

[visual plover]

Thats okay

[sullen pawn]

jesus was also middle eastern??

[wraith quarry]

North Africa is notoriously not made up of dark-skinned people

[sullen pawn]

the bible never says they were white 🤣

the eurpeans just distorted it that way

[visual plover]

Jesus was dark skinned, Christianity was in Africa before it ever went to europe

[midnight ocean]

Ok so they were without sin but then they sinned how does that work

[sullen pawn]

yep

[visual plover]

Satan

Read the story man

[midnight ocean]

So once again Satan caused sin

[spring bison]

this is what happens when you put white european clerics with the goal of purely strenghtening their position in charge of mantaining theology

[wraith quarry]

dark-skinned people would be more sub-sahara

[midnight ocean]

I just don’t get why Friday and Garlic are saying Satan didn’t cause sin when he literally did

[visual plover]

No lol. Lucifer was jealous of Adam and Eve. He then manipulated Eve into biting the fruit and causing them to now have sin

[frank latch]

sub-Saharan Africa
and some sources claim (Idk about the validity) that humans have origins around modern day Ethiopia.

[visual plover]

You just dont know the story

[wraith quarry]

so they caused sin

[visual plover]

So you are assuming parts of it

[sullen pawn]

this is like saying the wright brothers' paretns created the plane
Without them it wouldve never been created but they didnt create it

[visual plover]

Eve caused sin yes

[frank latch]

but I should do some more research into this

[wraith quarry]

but

they did

guh

[frosty drum]

He didn't cause sin
Eve had the choice to not eat from the tree

[midnight ocean]

The wright brothers parents weren’t like “boys make the airplane”

[visual plover]

Bro you are not helping respectfully

[sullen pawn]

the parents didnt the brothers did?

[spring bison]

north africans are white or mixed

[wraith quarry]

what

?

[frosty drum]

Ethiopia

[spring bison]

most

[sullen pawn]

i suck at metaphors ngl

[midnight ocean]

White wasn’t a thing when humans originated because they didn’t move north yet 👽

[visual plover]

^^

[wraith quarry]

i think it was sub-sahara africa

[frosty drum]

It was Ethiopia

[frank latch]

However, if this is true
Every country has claims to Ethiopia
(this is a joke)

[visual plover]

Sin first came into existence with the rebellion of Lucifer

[wraith quarry]

we evolved from our closest ancestor from Chimps or Apes (I forgor which)

[spring bison]

what

[midnight ocean]

Probably also the Sahara wasn’t always a desert idk the exact timeline though

[visual plover]

Lucifer then manipualted Eve to bite the fruit, bringing sin onto Humans

[wraith quarry]

oh yeah

thats right

[visual plover]

Please just read these books of the Bible

Instead of assuming

[wraith quarry]

the fact the sahara becomes green every 10,000 years is wild

[frank latch]

R.I.P the Amazon

[wraith quarry]

L bozo

[wraith quarry]

but that's still him causing the sin

if x does something to y causing z to happen
x is stil responsible

[visual plover]

Lucifer rebelled against God, bringing Sin into existence

Lucifer caused Sin

[wraith quarry]

yes

[visual plover]

Lucifer manipulated Eve into biting the fruit

Bringing sin to humans

[wraith quarry]

yes

[visual plover]

Very simple

Boom

Your answer

[midnight ocean]

It’s pretty cool actually the Sahara and the Amazon actually alternate

[wraith quarry]

the amazon turns into a desert?

[visual plover]

Lucifer is the origin of Sin

[wraith quarry]

i don't think it turns into desert

at most I'd guess plains

[midnight ocean]

Yeah don’t quote me but I read that somewhere

[visual plover]

Sin is a byproduct of the angels ability to choose. Lucifer chose this.

[wraith quarry]

so the cause of it

[visual plover]

It all leads back to free will

[visual plover]

YES

I never denied this

[wraith quarry]

so satan caused sin

[midnight ocean]

You literally did

[visual plover]

Where?

[wraith quarry]

yeah if god was good he woulda just killed lucifer

or just made the angels slaves

L bozo

[visual plover]

Brotha

Read the bible

Or just dont

[frosty drum]

Eve had a choice to eat the fruit or not

[midnight ocean]

Not directly doesn’t mean he wasn’t the cause

[visual plover]

He isnt?

Eve is

Bro

Read between the lines respectfully

[frank latch]

😭

[wraith quarry]

you just confirmed this guh

[midnight ocean]

So who is responsible Satan or Eve

[visual plover]

For humans sin?

[frosty drum]

EVE

[visual plover]

Or for sin in general?

Sin in general came from Lucifer

[wraith quarry]

no

[visual plover]

Human Sin came from Eve

[frank latch]

yes

I will force you to

[visual plover]

Lucifer manipulated Eve

Indirectly casuing sin unto humans

Therefore not directly responsible LIKE, my precious statement

Read Genesis

[visual plover]

Then stop assuming things and acting like you know the facts?

[wraith quarry]

aactually ngl
if god was good
he woulda deleted humanity and started over 🙏

[visual plover]

The Flood:

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We are turning this argument about who's responsible for sin into a court case

[wraith quarry]

uhh

that didn't kill all of humanity

guh

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I think that's a bad idea

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It's already happening

[wraith quarry]

i mean
like
start over from complete scratch

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I don't think it should be happening

[wraith quarry]

new planet

new species

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Fish is just being Fish

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God chose the least sinful person to repopulate Earth (also, I dont believe the story of the flood is meant to be taken literally)

[wraith quarry]

new angels

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(arguing just because he can)

[visual plover]

Yeah I see this now

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So I can Fish for him

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even if he has no merit

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Did it even do anything humans still sin a lot probably even more then back then according to Christianity

[visual plover]

Not nearly as badly or as commonly as back then though

[midnight ocean]

How bad did the Bible say it was

[sullen pawn]

i am.. complete

i could host this rn

[wraith quarry]

why is russia in pieces

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2025

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and why does the UK own northern ireland

[sullen pawn]

its a what if scenario

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late 2024

[sullen pawn]

(i just collapsed usa russia and china)

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Ukraine wins in September

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The Bible doesnt really go into specific actions but violence and murder were normal and accepted in the majority of the places in the region at the time

Stoning's for example

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wait-

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Please just read the Bible 😭

[midnight ocean]

Stoning was literally done by Christian’s in the Bible what

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@sullen pawn collapse Australia

[midnight ocean]

When I’ve got time in my own life