🎲game-room

[hollow garden]

Qevie are you suffering from a CK2 burnout

[silent smelt]

Apologies for the delayed response as I was concluding my previous session. I hope to provide you with the attention you deserve in our next interaction. Based on the information provided, it appears that you are located in a rocky and densely forested area with significant fog.

[west path]

yep

[silent smelt]

I'm neither of those

[wild mason]

Erm no copypasta

[silent smelt]

I'm a humble man with natural abilities

[midnight ocean]

mods if not abusing their position was a challenge

[west path]

Why are you hungarian

[silent smelt]

I'm not but I wouldn't mind being

[cunning niche]

@silent smelt take me to monte carlo

[spring bison]

mod team says they hate copy pastas but then proceed to do that a few minutes later

[hollow garden]

Copypasta banned

[west path]

why did your nose just grow

two times

[silent smelt]

no because I'd get arrested in customs for trying to smuggle a child or smth

[west path]

this mf is pinnochio

🤥

[midnight ocean]

👽

[silent smelt]

I'd be forced to admit you to tax administration

[hollow garden]

I mean not all the mods are the same person

[midnight ocean]

they are actually

[hollow garden]

Real

[cunning niche]

Im not a child pal

[silent smelt]

imagine having to like

[hollow garden]

Banan you are like 12 don't lie

[west path]

you are still legally a child

its the law

[west path]

real

[midnight ocean]

@wild mason Question did you allow banam to get to the promised land because you felt bad for him

[silent smelt]

tax administration and customs asks you to admit your belongings

[cunning niche]

im not

[silent smelt]

and you tell them you brought over a child

[west path]

@midnight ocean RIG THE VOTE TO NORTHWEST

WE LIVE THERE

[wild mason]

No he genuinely just explored and ended up there at the cost of most of his people and abilities as a society 😭

[hollow garden]

@silent smelt adopt banan when

[midnight ocean]

how do we know its a good event

[cunning niche]

@silent smelt i’ll take you to dubai if you take me to monte carlo

[hollow garden]

Very balanced tech tree
The steampunk ones get agriculture stone tools and tribes while the magical ones get spells, runes and herbs

[west path]

we dont

we gamble

[midnight ocean]

it could be a plague or somth

[west path]

thats the point

[hollow garden]

It's explosion

[silent smelt]

I was in Dubai 4 times already

[hollow garden]

@cunning niche

[west path]

we roll the dice acnaq

we just keep gambling

[midnight ocean]

do you think it was the right play

[west path]

gambling always works

[hollow garden]

Did I send this already

[west path]

99% of gamblers quit before they hit it big

[cunning niche]

Dubai is amazing

[hollow garden]

👽

[wild mason]

Depends on what he does from here

[hollow garden]

Real

[cunning niche]

💔💔 ana ba 3ayat yasta

[silent smelt]

idk

maybe yeah

[hollow garden]

Dubai is so overrated

[spring bison]

you are basically saying each of them can just make up their own rule list

[silent smelt]

English only

[midnight ocean]

probably fuck it up but tbh his earlier situation was pretty bleak

[hollow garden]

Sharm better

[cunning niche]

Nope

[silent smelt]

Is that the village you live in?

[cunning niche]

No im saying it is amazing

[hollow garden]

that's kind of how it is though?

[hollow garden]

😢

I'm gumball

[spring bison]

tfym

[hollow garden]

you are Darwin

[wild mason]

Kind of fun we had Cosmic and him migrate, it adds more depth to the world IMO. Like IRL romani people coming from Central Asia

[midnight ocean]

theres a guide mod most mods just do what they want a lot

[hollow garden]

Sharm is the best tourist resort on the red sea

[cunning niche]

@silent smelt abu dhabi or dubai

[silent smelt]

Romani people were deported and that wasn't fun

[spring bison]

I am deply saddened by your actions

[silent smelt]

abu dhabi

[west path]

cooked

[midnight ocean]

I think it kinda was a good idea and I would have done it too and moved southwest probably if I hadnt already dug my feet in

[cunning niche]

Fr

[midnight ocean]

yes

[silent smelt]

Who are you kidding bumi hollis

banam carried your event

free actor

[midnight ocean]

true...

He actually always has

he is the most dramatic and wacky mw player

[west path]

@vital latch you never told me if rgd

[west path]

heretic

[vagrant ginkgo]

@midnight ocean can i join as a bandit gang that exclusivelyt harasses acnaq

[elder arch]

Can someone host a terraria server instead

[midnight ocean]

no

[elder arch]

🤯

[midnight ocean]

can someone host that rimworld server I give up

[west path]

Acnaq is the host he has the power of host bias

[quick idol]

H chat what did i miss

[west path]

@midnight ocean hop on qud we should no life it rn

[vagrant ginkgo]

btw @midnight ocean rate this minecraft skin i made for eye

[midnight ocean]

what hell naw If I want to play a long term game rn its gonna be kenshi

I dont feel like playing qud rn

[west path]

you can beat qud in 2 hours

[elder arch]

Is it multiplayer

[silent smelt]

did he fall in water paint wrap

[west path]

no

[midnight ocean]

can im not that good

[vagrant ginkgo]

no its based off that one purple eye pfp he wears

[midnight ocean]

And I like taking a while on my runs

[west path]

i got to level 13 in 30 minutes

[quick idol]

Not enough eyes

[silent smelt]

You should also make me a skim

Skin

[west path]

ur just a skull issue

[vagrant ginkgo]

nope

[west path]

on classic mode btw

[silent smelt]

5 usd

[midnight ocean]

earlier levels are very easy to get 👽

[quick idol]

Skull issue?

[vagrant ginkgo]

i'll consider it

[midnight ocean]

it becomes harder at like 40

[silent smelt]

ok 10

[west path]

you beat the game at like level 25

[vagrant ginkgo]

just gimme time to make my own first

[midnight ocean]

Pretty sure it was 35

[quick idol]

Have you heard of the rat king curse

[west path]

no

25

[midnight ocean]

no what

[west path]

you beat the game at level 25

[silent smelt]

okay

[west path]

not 35

well

i did beat the game at level 25

[quick idol]

Being rat king makes it painfully slow to level up

[west path]

you beat the game at level 37

[midnight ocean]

Like I said I like taking time on my runs

I wanted to get the best gear

[west path]

ok acnaq then you should play kenshi and make a sleeper cell of hivers in the holy empire

[midnight ocean]

and I did a bunch of side quests like creating plud

[wild mason]

SESSION ONE EVENTS

NORTHERN TRIBES ENDURED THE WINTER, AND THEY MANAGED TO ENDURE IT WELL

THE PEOPLE OF EIRA AND AND KAB'ARIYA WENT ON EXPEDITIONS TO FIND NEW, PERMANENT HOMES

ZIPPE BEGAN CULTIVATING LOCAL FRUITS

Kiba-Seiuchi-Nab-Alfazi DISCOVERED OBSIDIAN, BUT WERE UNABLE TO EMPLOY IT AS TOOLS AS MENTERR

CIDRON BEGAN FISHING AND HARVESTING CLAMS AND LOBSTERS, USING THE SHELLS TO KEEP THEIR TEETH FROM BECOMING OVERGROWN

PUTROS BEGAN LIMITED CULTIVATION OF MUSHROOMS AND BEGAN TO CREATE SPECIAL AXES FROM RIVERBED STONES.

THE NOMADIC ARIMANOI PEOPLE MIGRATED DEEPER INTO THE ASPENS

THE KRO'GAR AND CIDRON PEOPLES CREATED POTTERY.

SEVERAL TRIBES BEGAN WRITING IN ARCHAIC MANNERS WITH CARVINGS ON WOOD AND STONE

[wild mason]

Anything I missed

[midnight ocean]

Im currently on my UC op arc

[west path]

didnt death invent pottery

[midnight ocean]

I kidnapped Tengu and almost brought him to spring but he escaped after I was attacked by a black gorrillo

[west path]

thats pretty significant

[silent smelt]

this chat isn't immune to flood 🤓

[quick idol]

I finally have food, the tribe is livable!!!

[west path]

text walls are allowed if theyre related to a mw ☝️

[quick idol]

I will eat it all

[midnight ocean]

istg if you delete that

[west path]

toast said so himself

[silent smelt]

alright so 1 hour tomeout

Major warn

[west path]

on you?

[quick idol]

Timeout and major warn jarz

[silent smelt]

bumi hollis you're done for

[vital latch]

circumstancial

[midnight ocean]

do you want this pinned

[west path]

peak

[midnight ocean]

since this is basically a map update

[west path]

acnaq why would this be pinned 😭

[wild mason]

Not really

[quick idol]

Session two im gonna invent war

[silent smelt]

I am just kidding

[midnight ocean]

"Since this is basically a map update"

[cunning niche]

Season 2 ima get horses and dip the fuck out to somewhere that has a coast

[silent smelt]

build monaco

[midnight ocean]

no become the mongols the opportunity is right there

[silent smelt]

your only chance is to be a city state

[quick idol]

ACCEPT YOUR LOCATION BRO

😭

[silent smelt]

ercan I have a question

[wild mason]

Once he reaches the coast I swear he's gonna say "Nah I hate this let me sail on rafts wherever it takes me" 😭

[silent smelt]

if you submerged underwater would the sea level rise to a point mount everest would sink?

[cunning niche]

Nope

[quick idol]

ask

[midnight ocean]

Bro just wants to travel

[silent smelt]

if you submerged underwater would the sea level rise to a point mount everest would sink?

[quick idol]

Then he ends up in resourceless tundra

[cunning niche]

My whole goal was to get horses

And go somewhere with a coast

[midnight ocean]

yes

[cunning niche]

And then develip

[midnight ocean]

whats the point of horses if you become coastal

[west path]

youre in a lucky spot

wait

wait

[quick idol]

idk azerbaijan is landlocked (caspian sea is clickbait its NOT a sea)

[spring bison]

@silent smelt what are your predictions for world war 3

[west path]

didnt banan have severe winters

[wild mason]

Which your people have no reason for, so to them you are literally killing your people and trekking 100s of KMs for a creature only your leader thinks is real

[midnight ocean]

I think hes in the east

[west path]

@cunning niche was your winter mild or severe

[west path]

honestly i think so too

[silent smelt]

I think Vladimír Putin will DDOS eye x

[cunning niche]

Mild

[silent smelt]

And then kamala norris will

[west path]

nvm u might be in the south as i expected

[silent smelt]

She

[quick idol]

Atleast my people dont think im insane 😭

[silent smelt]

She will declare war on springfield

And China will get provoked

Attack the usa

[quick idol]

bananamia is crazy

[west path]

do i seem unreasonable to my people

[hollow garden]

It's starting from north korea

or Pakistan

[west path]

or am i like some divine visionary to them

[quick idol]

I seem very reasonable to my people trust

[silent smelt]

@spring bison ultimately I think kenya will win ww3

[midnight ocean]

this is what I think banan did

[quick idol]

Im the best leader they ever had

[cunning niche]

Wanna know where i am?

[silent smelt]

I think ww3 Victors will be kenya, Jordan and maybe nepal

[west path]

he created manneva 2?

[quick idol]

You dont either

[west path]

yes

[silent smelt]

It will depend on the circumstances but

[midnight ocean]

my brush was way too small

[silent smelt]

These 3 have high odds rn

[west path]

no i see it

im js trolling lol

[midnight ocean]

He might have went east actually and not west

[west path]

honestly this feels really plausible

@cunning niche you have no mountains

[hollow garden]

@wild mason do you use the soft falcon brush btw

[cunning niche]

Wait why did i send it here

[west path]

😭

[silent smelt]

Tbf banam could build a nice metropolis near the bay

Monaco

[west path]

banan thats the wrong location btw

[wild mason]

For what?

[quick idol]

Banans full journey just got leaked

[west path]

you went through mountains

[midnight ocean]

banan there are zero mountains in that ss

[west path]

so youre further up north\

[midnight ocean]

you are way off

[west path]

REAL

[hollow garden]

For the outlines

[hollow garden]

REAL

[west path]

@cunning niche why did you take this journey

[hollow garden]

Qevie dreams of doing this

[wild mason]

Dry Bristles Eroded 6.55 Pixels

[quick idol]

~bt

[hardy saffron]

@quick idol: It opens at 18:55.

[midnight ocean]

@wild mason is this real btw

[hollow garden]

what opens at 18:55

[west path]

nvm what banan sent was correct

hes there

[quick idol]

guys manneva 2 session 2 at 18:55 tommorow

[west path]

and hes east not south of us

@midnight ocean we might be balling here honestly

[spring bison]

bananan

[quick idol]

Why are yall doing location reveals

[west path]

unless pat is on our continent (pat is a creature of destruction)

[west path]

trade fr

[midnight ocean]

blumi isnt responding so I think I doxxed bananam

[quick idol]

i hate trade

[spring bison]

we can build an railway with this

[west path]

no

banan doxxed himself

he just sent me his location

[quick idol]

What would you call it

[midnight ocean]

was I right

[spring bison]

bananaway

[west path]

he was far south

[midnight ocean]

oh ok I was off

my logic made sense though right

he moved from tundra to steppe

[quick idol]

@midnight ocean @west path i bet you 2 are somewhere here

[midnight ocean]

real

[west path]

real

[wild mason]

Where do you think BOW and Fish are

[west path]

we already know each others not very precise locations btw

so we ball

[quick idol]

The cursed bottom right

[hollow garden]

Real

@midnight ocean do you believe him

[wild mason]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/894413839993565279/1286330434229112912/caption.gif

[quick idol]

Can you tell where i am based off this picture of my land?

mapwars geoguessr

[west path]

Yes.

[spring bison]

I arent

[west path]

You are in rore 2

northeast

next to a river

🥱

[quick idol]

where tf is rore 2

[midnight ocean]

this is all Ive got btw

you literally cant tell where I am from this

[west path]

yeah i dont fucking know either bro

i have NOTHING

[wild mason]

Ercan if he could infer things 🤫

[quick idol]

smh my red is better

[midnight ocean]

Nah I kept my ancient acnaqia red because I liked it

[west path]

not northeast

[midnight ocean]

my red beat your red last time btw

[west path]

northwest

[quick idol]

Im not a rore fan

[quick idol]

I was allied with DECAFA and BANAN bro

[west path]

color wars when

[quick idol]

I had the worst people on my side

[midnight ocean]

doesnt change the fact you still got cooked I was fighting on my own the eastern alliance barely helped me and they were also low key dinguses

[quick idol]

We could have capitulated you but our unreliable ass allies cut support randomly

Its so crazy

[wild mason]

@midnight ocean Would you eat this with @midnight ocean ?

[quick idol]

This mw i will NOT trust BAD people like banan

[quick idol]

he works for the devil along with decafa

[spring bison]

you are an evil person

[midnight ocean]

this was so peak

[quick idol]

I did nothing evil

[quick idol]

Why not

[midnight ocean]

we have no clue if there even are any so I think yes

[balmy epoch]

mid

[wild mason]

Because what if one is mean and kills ur nation 😢

[midnight ocean]

just make half of them relatively weak tribes

[wild mason]

Do you not remember the system I added

[quick idol]

i can bribe them with olives

[wild mason]

😭 😭

[midnight ocean]

yeah but that doesnt affect power level

just diplomacy

[balmy epoch]

all of it became mine

[wild mason]

OK, would you rather be neighbors with a powerful mercantile state or a mid-level zealot state?

[balmy epoch]

and you became a puppet of the islamic puppet master

[midnight ocean]

half of it and what tf did you even offer neckrop for him to give up the most valuable land in the empire

[balmy epoch]

nitro

[midnight ocean]

Mid level zealot since their actions will inevitably lead to a war where I can easily frame my nation as just and with good military strategy I can conquer them

[quick idol]

The mercantile guys are less likely to fucking kill me if i trade with them atleast

[hollow garden]

Powerful mercantile

[midnight ocean]

thats so dumb bruh

[wild mason]

Im gonna disrupt trade today I feel quirky 🤪

[hollow garden]

They will probably be way more chill

Then the zealots

[wild mason]

That is still a war you'd have to deal with.

[quick idol]

Its fine i'll just tell them the gods disrupted trade

[midnight ocean]

Chill is lame

[balmy epoch]

i had an extra nitro

that i didn’t need

[wild mason]

https://tenor.com/view/cool-cat-cat-cool-cat-vibes-cat-vibing-cat-chill-gif-15988853437823086763

[midnight ocean]

The mercantile state will just control you though most likely

[quick idol]

acnaq thinks war is a good idea as a late neolithic tribe just starting the mw

barbarians fr

[midnight ocean]

no matter what you are at risk of subjugation

[quick idol]

zippe is the only good nation

[wild mason]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/522561390330904587/1195463100506316886/attachment-7.gif

[midnight ocean]

are you still waiting to get let into qud

it took me like a week

[west path]

qhar

what r uyapping about

[midnight ocean]

Mercantalism is bad

[quick idol]

He thinks it'd be better to be neighbors with a zealot state than a mercantile state

its so crazy

[wild mason]

Yes

[spring bison]

👽

[west path]

what

how

[spring bison]

👽

[west path]

alien

@midnight ocean why is this

[quick idol]

and he says its because he wants to go to war and invade the zealot state

👽

[midnight ocean]

East india company

[west path]

that uhh

wouldnt look good

[west path]

uhhuh

what about it

[midnight ocean]

It would if it was a defensive war

[quick idol]

would any of yall ally with this guy who literally wants to go to war already

[midnight ocean]

which seems pretty easy to get out of a zealot state

[quick idol]

And its been 1 session

[midnight ocean]

when did I say I wanted to go to war

Im just saying war is fun

[sullen pawn]

can u guys to to the aw discord and play my mw :/

its dead

[midnight ocean]

bro I have barely made any improvements to anything war related this session

[sullen pawn]

which sucks

[west path]

@midnight ocean they reinvented the wheel

[quick idol]

Im not touching that cursed land

[midnight ocean]

no host map wars here

[midnight ocean]

W

[quick idol]

Host mapwars HERE

[west path]

when are we playing this?

[midnight ocean]

never

[west path]

it is still a war cuh

casualties would halt your development

[quick idol]

Dont be like me in manneva 1

[midnight ocean]

they do but depending on the land the zealot nation has it could be worth it

And wars allow for leaps in military tech

[quick idol]

What if you dont win

[west path]

mercantile state is 🤤

[spring bison]

@hollow garden 😔

[west path]

the trade would be so good

[midnight ocean]

If I cant beat an npc nation (I probably cant tbh) I deserve it

[sullen pawn]

i lowkey dot dot dot aka elipses might switch servers

[west path]

what if you lose the war

considering how the zealot nation could have a more capable military

[quick idol]

npc nations actually do shit this time

[sullen pawn]

@covert citrus @hollow garden @wild mason

[quick idol]

Also they are a zealot state

[midnight ocean]

Also I can probably get allies

[quick idol]

who

[sullen pawn]

@ancient coral

[spring bison]

this is a modern concept

[midnight ocean]

its easy to get allies for a defensive war against an aggressive nation

[covert citrus]

leave me ALONE

[spring bison]

also that is because nations fund their tech sectors more in a war/ cold war scenario

[ancient coral]

Wsp

[sullen pawn]

im switching servers

for this mw

[ancient coral]

Why

[midnight ocean]

Since when? Military techniques have always been pushed during times of war all the way back in rome they were inventing new stuff when they were losing

[sullen pawn]

aw server is dead

[wild mason]

Would you rather be neighbors with a mercantile state or a zealotous one

[ancient coral]

More busy than dead

[ancient coral]

What

[spring bison]

thats because they decided to put more time in research

not because of war

[balmy epoch]

WHY IS OSMAN HERE

[midnight ocean]

your leaving out the power difference thats the most important part

[ancient coral]

Bitch I been here

[wild mason]

A state fanatically obsessed with spreading their religion or one who wants to primarily trade and import exotic goods and culture

[sullen pawn]

MAPWAR!!!

CHOOSE NATIONS

[ancient coral]

I meant like
Why this question

[midnight ocean]

Keep in mind the zealotous state is only mid in terms of power while the mercantile state is very powerful

[west path]

0 votes

[wild mason]

Because it was the topic and I was curious on your view

[west path]

declare war on the red alliance in america

[quick idol]

Only acnaq would want to be neighbors with a state fanatically obsessed with spreading their religion

[spring bison]

where are you getting this information from

👽

[west path]

no

[midnight ocean]

It was literally in the original question

[west path]

this could be flipped

[midnight ocean]

read

scroll up read

[ancient coral]

Obviously the mercantile state? The zeolotous state would be constantly aggressive. The mercantile state would be an improvement in trade and a better choice to be friendly with

[midnight ocean]

powerful mercantile or mid level zealot

[spring bison]

how does a question help your argument

[west path]

ok

so

powerful mercantile state you can leech off

🤑

just coup them and take them over

[midnight ocean]

It depends on your playstyle

[west path]

you get massive money

[ancient coral]

The stronger a mercantile state is, the more likely you'd get good shit from them if you're friendly with them

[midnight ocean]

If you like war and conquering stuff then an easier to conquer and justify state would obviously be more fun

[spring bison]

I would border the powerfull mercantile state

[west path]

Nah im a schemer

[ancient coral]

Powerful merchants!

[west path]

im taking an aggressive stance on nationalist factions within the great nation of Rizia in suzerain im being very aggressive 👍

[west path]

ok my schizophrenia has partially returned

@midnight ocean im so back

[quick idol]

Acnaq literally just wants war fr

[ancient coral]

@balmy epoch Why you here

[midnight ocean]

and also at what point is it leeching and at what point is it just being a client state

[wild mason]

I think a Mercantile state would generally be easier to conquer as long as you kept their standards and culture intact, whereas a Zealot state would have constant insurgency and would put up a bitter war before, if they ever, surrender

[ancient coral]

Then the neighbors arent the problem 👽

[west path]

case to case basis

[hardy saffron]

@wild mason: As long as they remain true to their goals and values, I believe that trading empires will be easy to attack, brave empires will continue to fight hard, and wars will be brutal.

[ancient coral]

Doesnt matter, good stuff is good stuff

Religious state wack yo

[midnight ocean]

This is assuming the people are just as zealous as the government which can be true but at the same time a country being focused on mercantalism doesnt mean they cant be very adept militarily like look at britain

[wild mason]

Lets take this scenario to you barely being kingdoms since that is when it is most likely to happen

They would be VERY RELIGIOUS in all likelihood

[west path]

why are you expecting that the nation with the aggressive religious policy isnt religious

also i think all zealots are just gonna collapse as we reach the renaissance era because their religious aggression would result in other powers just wiping them out

[midnight ocean]

Ok think about it like this: Ireland bordered Britain which is the definition of powerful mercantile state. And ireland was exploited af

[quick idol]

When do we reach space age and visit manneva 1

[west path]

ireland was conquered by britain

for a good part of their history

[midnight ocean]

Being mercantile doesnt mean passive

If they see your land as valuable they will try to get it

[west path]

Acnaq

ireland was under the UK for over 700 years

or well england

[marsh lance]

Funnily enough the opening theme of All Quiet on The Western Front movie was playing in the background by my teacher when i read this in school 😭

[wild mason]

Honestly if you are friendly with a Mercantile state who has a good military I do not see how that is bad fo ryou?

Like

[marsh lance]

https://tenor.com/view/pig-falling-funny-eating-spaghetti-gif-27487222

[west path]

not if youre friendly with them

[wild mason]

They will probably protect you to ensure their trade is upheld

[midnight ocean]

key word is friendly the original question just says borders

they could be mean

[west path]

if they wanted your land they wouldnt try to be friendly cuh

[west path]

why would you seek aggression with a mercantile state

and what makes you think that their focus would be on a military

if you could surprise them with a war you could get rid of them before they become a problem

[marsh lance]

https://youtube.com/watch?v=U3MN_no4yh4&feature=shared

[midnight ocean]

bro the whole point Im making is that the NPC is the one that can be aggressive or exploitative

[west path]

ok why did you just poorly phrase your own point ill rephrase it

You believe that mercantile states may have ulterior motives in comparison to zealots, which are very straightforward and easy to understand

yes?

[midnight ocean]

yes plus the difference in power is a big part of my decision

[west path]

but, if you are in the mercantile states good graces i do not see how they would see to your destruction

[west path]

a nation becomes distrustful when it is given a reason for distrust

[west path]

a powerful mercantile state has more things to trade

and are a valueable ally

they can replace some of your goods shortages

[midnight ocean]

Good graces can change on a whim, and who knows if that something you can even acquire in the first place?

Yes a powerful mercantile state would be a good ally, but if they are more powerful than you, its likely that they will be more of a vassal master

[west path]

both true but both ignore the glaring solution

just

[balmy epoch]

i’ve been here longer than you’ve been alive

[west path]

invade them before theyre prepared

[spring bison]

acnaq you are not onto anything

[balmy epoch]

invade poland for helping ukraine

[midnight ocean]

If you want to be possibly exploited by a more powerful state for trade good than be my guest

[spring bison]

👽 👽 👽

you are not onto anything

[midnight ocean]

They are the ones with the position of power, they arent gonna give you good deals

this is historically what happens with mercantalism

[wild mason]

Yeah but... spices?

[ancient coral]

I know yo momma

[midnight ocean]

Ask india in the 1600s if they like being under the influence of a powerful mercantile country

[wild mason]

OK Acnaq consider you are in a position with a really rare spice THEY want
You are the stronger one here.
Is this a scenario that you are friendly to them?

[midnight ocean]

No. They show up at your ports with gunboats and threaten to level your capital and theyre getting the spices the easy way or the hard way

[spring bison]

this is a lie??

[midnight ocean]

👽

[wild mason]

Acnaq I said YOU would be the stronger one who could probably do that to them.

[midnight ocean]

Ohhh I thought you meant that in relation to your ownership of the spices. If your stronger than them yeah obviously they would be a better neighbor

[marsh lance]

Everyone stop bullying acnaq, he’s just a poor critterb

[wild mason]

We just want to comprehend his hatred of trade

[spring bison]

1600's india was not under european control

[marsh lance]

True..

[wild mason]

Who cares if some natives die if you get those sexy spices 😍

[spring bison]

what are you talking about

[midnight ocean]

Im going into this thinking that the country you have is on the same level of power of the zealots and below in power to the mercantile

[marsh lance]

I won’t be able trade anyway so i guess i hate it too

[marsh lance]

Unless im tradinf with other menterr

[wild mason]

You can trade though

[midnight ocean]

they were still already being exploited

[marsh lance]

No because im forming a hyper-racist theocratic dictatorship thats why i can’t

[spring bison]

👽

[wild mason]

Imagined the Dellan are dwarves and the Menterr are Orcs

The Orcs might want metal from the Dwarves they cannot make themselves, and the Dwarves might want the unique fungus the Orcs grow

[wild mason]

https://tenor.com/view/big-eyed-cat-stare-cat-giant-eye-cat-gif-26545953

[marsh lance]

Im trolling gang but yeah you are making sense rn

[spring bison]

trade deal and diplomatic relations =/= being exploited

[marsh lance]

https://tenor.com/view/right-now-it’s-just-that-everything-feels-right-sorry-amanai-gojo-sorry-jjk-gif-6689060642723775612

[midnight ocean]

Pretty sure the french east india company literally just tried subjugating people in south asia to get their goods

mfs will alien without actually looking stuff up

[spring bison]

you didnt

[west path]

yes

i love spices

[west path]

ok but isnt that 17th century

[midnight ocean]

I said 1600s

[spring bison]

the company was on the brink of bankruptcy

[west path]

ok

[spring bison]

actually it did go insolvent

[west path]

i wonder how colonialism would fare in this mw 🤔

[wild mason]

OK I don't get this point. If Google was on the brink of bankruptcy would it make it any less bad for themt to subjugate a Native Reservation?

[midnight ocean]

Yeah because the british helped defend the Indians I think

France just got cooked

[spring bison]

if you are talking about slave trade yes they did slave trade

[midnight ocean]

I wasnt even but yeah slavery is bad too

[spring bison]

then idk what you are talking about

[midnight ocean]

Honestly the chance of a mercantile nation using slaves is just as high as a zealous nation using slaves

[spring bison]

taking my messages out of context and adding your own

[spring bison]

literally every nation in the world used to do slavery

[wild mason]

What

[spring bison]

you completely took my message out of context

[midnight ocean]

Real but the europeans went crazy with it in the 18th and 19th centuries

[wild mason]

I am not taking the 🎣

I know I didn't

[spring bison]

thats because they were on a colonizer mindset

[spring bison]

you literally did

[midnight ocean]

Which imo was driven by mercantalism

[west path]

not all and not entirely

it was more so 16th and 17th centuries

[spring bison]

that was driven by power

[midnight ocean]

I just meant the bad europeans

[midnight ocean]

You cant tell me that mercantalism didnt go hand in hand with colonialism

[west path]

thats when we started colonizing the americas en masse and there were plenty of them going around

albeit it was most active at the 18th century

not 19th

[spring bison]

no?

[midnight ocean]

ok now your just being not right

[spring bison]

mercatilism was used in colonization

but it didnt go hand in hand

[west path]

sort of

[spring bison]

what are you talking about

[west path]

considering how shitty europe was at the time people thought of the americas as a new frontier

[spring bison]

venice was mercantilist yet it wasnt colonizing

[west path]

they also held undiscovered resources which gave them an economic edge over asia

that they could use in trading

[midnight ocean]

mostly they just wanted the resources

[west path]

which allowed them to secure their treasured spices

[spring bison]

Genoa was mercatilisit yet it wasnt colonizing

[west path]

and they themselves were luxuries

[delicate dome]

Hoiiyya

HOIIYYYYAAA

[west path]

No actually! the land was extremely useful and people found new jobs

[wild mason]

https://tenor.com/view/джокер-joker-jonkler-gif-2048036744282099155

[midnight ocean]

thats because like who even is genoa

[wild mason]

Jonklers

[spring bison]

also the "colonization" that happened during that time in india is mostly stablishing trade ports for easier spice trade

[west path]

the main driving force of colonialism and settlement was the 'new frontier aspect' where people could leave their old lives behind

[midnight ocean]

the hypothetical said the mercantile nation had to be powerful

[west path]

and start anew

[west path]

this is tru

[delicate dome]

I came up with this name before the meme

You know

[midnight ocean]

jobs harvesting the resources to trade back to the europeans

[wild mason]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-amazed-funny-surprised-camera-gif-25640741

Welcome to game room

[midnight ocean]

And as soon as they started becoming independant you know what happened

[spring bison]

just because it is powerful dosent mean it wants to colonize you

[west path]

some of them were also just... regular civilian jobs same as in europe?

yes there were lots of resource based jobs but thats

in every society

and not all resources were shipped off

the most exploitative colonies were the spanish ones iirc

[midnight ocean]

It means they have the option to and that option was taken pretty often

[west path]

actually i might be wrong here

[midnight ocean]

yeah

[spring bison]

by european kings to expand their power

[west path]

ignoring belgiums congo colony that is

[west path]

but

[spring bison]

Belgian congo only existed because they didnt know what to do with the congo

[midnight ocean]

was what belgium did in the congo even profitable it just seemed evil

[west path]

the land they had settled

wasnt too exotic either

it just had lots of sugarcane and metals

not too much tobacco

that was mostly NA

[spring bison]

seeing the missmanegement
probably not

[west path]

also aztec gold 🤑

[west path]

it wasnt

it was so fucking mismanaged

[marsh lance]

Stop arguing about merchants and establish mega-corporate capitalism and establish cyberpunk 2077 already

[spring bison]

what

it had tons of spices

[west path]

the carribean has sugar

[midnight ocean]

true

[delicate dome]

[spring bison]

also based on this logic nowhere in the world is exotic

[delicate dome]

Jonklering time

[west path]

true

it was pretty goated

[spring bison]

unless you consider the alien colony of australia exotic

[west path]

but aztec gold was a priority i think

[marsh lance]

https://tenor.com/view/джокер-joker-jonkler-gif-2048036744282099155

[west path]

how did the people survive the wildlife

[delicate dome]

🤣🤣🤣🤣

[marsh lance]

https://tenor.com/view/jonkler-hot-chocolate-enesbatur-ruhi-gif-17038082499507565267

[spring bison]

they found and mined tons of silver and gold

not just aztec gold

[west path]

how did they manage to be the most oppressive whilst just getting silver and gold bro 😭

[midnight ocean]

Imagine if the aztecs werent taken out by disease and they actually persisted as a state

[delicate dome]

WHY SO SERIOUS

[spring bison]

because more gold = power

[delicate dome]

BWPHDUDUDUDUD

[west path]

this is just a skill issue on the spanish part

[rose forge]

Events to respond to (didn't get any)

[marsh lance]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/727991494874759259/1141971388429766666/togif.gif

[west path]

uhh they wouldnt survive against modern guns

[west path]

@balmy epoch

[delicate dome]

WHY SO SERIOUS

[midnight ocean]

🤓 🤓 🤓

[wild mason]

I was trying to do that sometimes but I was so behind 😢

[spring bison]

they didnt get taken out by disease btw

it was the europeans and their gunpowder

[west path]

youre trying to make people still using clubs survive flintlock muskets

which could easily get through european plate armor btw

[marsh lance]

https://tenor.com/view/five-dollar-dollar-yapdollar-dolar-xia-gif-17873440995323525365

[rose forge]

Yeah you gotta indicate better when people should send more actions or not

[spring bison]

https://tenor.com/view/crazyoldman-crazy-brainrot-gif-456860555340668160

[midnight ocean]

"The aztecs lost because of the europeans superior technology and guns totally not cause 90% of their population was wiped out by smallpox europeans are just superior" 🤓

[spring bison]

what

[west path]

what

[marsh lance]

Hivemind

[west path]

my brother in christ

[wild mason]

I think I might also stick to 👍 the messages instead of responding to each

[west path]

they got wiped out by the disease

if they didnt

[pulsar lake]

What the deuce

[west path]

they would still die to the fucking flintlocks

[spring bison]

can we hard drive reset acnaq's brain

[west path]

they were technologically inferior

[west path]

literally

[wild mason]

Vague would you rather be neighbors with a mercantile state or a zealotous one

[midnight ocean]

They had armor which was extremely resistant to bullets btw and was lighter than european armor

[marsh lance]

armor doesn’t matter ngl

[pulsar lake]

Mercantile easily

[marsh lance]

The aztecs also have enemies

[west path]

pikes:

[marsh lance]

The europeans took advantage of that

[west path]

during the time of colonialism europeans still used pike and shot

we still had pikes

😭

[wild mason]

Codlu
Mercantile Archetype
Vinthari
Boreal Forest

Inkall
Bardic Archetype
Dellan
Chaparral

Ri-Zheou
Austere Archetype
Dellan
Stone Forest

Sant'Raashi
Warrior Archetype
Menterr
Chaparral

Ethelrl
Shamanistic Archetype
Menterr
Redwood Forest

New NPC states just dropped

[marsh lance]

Also the aztecs had like hundreds of thousands of warriors

[west path]

their ass did NOT fight sarissas in the ancient era

[spring bison]

we need to ban pikes in the next update

[midnight ocean]

Do you think all aztec soldiers were just guys in animal furs with obsidian swords and no battle strategy

[west path]

pike wall

[spring bison]

they are too op

[west path]

my brother in christ

pikes

are

an incredibly effective weapon

why do you think that they were so commonly used

[midnight ocean]

What if the aztecs just copied them and started using pikes just like native americans started using guns in the 1700s too

[wild mason]

Obsidian gets shit on way too much btw. It was what they had and it made more sense for them to use over somehow learning exactly what Europe and Asia did

[marsh lance]

Think for example, Germania from rome total war

[west path]

acnaq thinks otherwise

[west path]

how would they get the method to manufacture them

did they have access to european steel?

[marsh lance]

REAL

[midnight ocean]

Win one battle and steal their pikes

[marsh lance]

Flintknapping is so great

[midnight ocean]

Trade with neutral europeans for their pikes

[west path]

ok but now you have to deal with experienced pikemen who know how to handle the pike better than you

wyd

• the europeans had cavalry

[spring bison]

and... how would this turn the tide of the war for the aztecs???

[west path]

literally

[marsh lance]

How many pikes were typically in one unit

[spring bison]

this is impossible

and unfeasable

[marsh lance]

Acnaq what

[west path]

vro?

ok what

acnaq you need to retake history

actually

[midnight ocean]

Thats basically how the 7 years war went down isnt it?

[marsh lance]

Even the europeans trading WITH the natives weren’t neutral at all

They had their goals

[west path]

NATIVE AMERICA DIDNT HAVE ESTABLISHED INTERNATIONAL TRADE ROUTES

BRO????

ok can we hard drive reset acnaqs brain

literally

[midnight ocean]

Im om 4 hours of sleep

[marsh lance]

Ok real

[west path]

go to sleep

[marsh lance]

Please forgive this critter

[midnight ocean]

But the aztecs could have resisted the spanish if it werent for disease

[spring bison]

even then why is acnaq assuming NATIVE AMERICAN NATIONS have ships able to sail the fucking ocean

[wild mason]

A WAR PRIMARILY BETWEEN EUROPEAN COUNTRIES IN EUROPE AND NORTH AMERICA...???

[west path]

ok i gtg

[west path]

literally

[west path]

for like 15 years max

[midnight ocean]

Like its not called the french indian war half of the time

[marsh lance]

I don’t think he said THAT

[spring bison]

and why is bro assuming they have diplomatic relations and know how to communicate with "neutral" european powers to get the weapons

[marsh lance]

Moreso trading with the europeans that came to america, but none of those were neutral

[spring bison]

he meant that

[midnight ocean]

Yeah of course I meant the most obviously wrong thing

[marsh lance]

How can you tella

[spring bison]

well what else would they do them

lol

[marsh lance]

They all had their own power hungry goals

[spring bison]

how would they get to europe

[midnight ocean]

The aztecs could have just gotten in their massive ocean ships and sailed to britain to trade

duh

[wild mason]

https://tenor.com/view/dog-gif-25785387

[spring bison]

in 1500-1600

[marsh lance]

Trade with the europeans that came to america but again thats unfeasible

[marsh lance]

Medieval 2 reference?

[spring bison]

Portugal would never fund the aztecs

England has no reason and no way to

[midnight ocean]

What about britain or france if they knew that spain was actually having trouble with a native kingdom

[spring bison]

France is too busy fighting england

[marsh lance]

They weren’t interested in southern north america and central america

[spring bison]

why would they care and also how would that be of any relevance to them

[midnight ocean]

They would do it just to spite spain

[spring bison]

👽

what

[marsh lance]

The spanish and portugese got there WAY before the other western europeans

[midnight ocean]

real

and true

[spring bison]

there is nothing you can do to save the Aztecs

they were doomed the moment the spanish arrived

[midnight ocean]

Thats only because of disease

[spring bison]

no

[marsh lance]

By the time the natives could trade with the english or french, smallpox would have done its work, and it would have also been the 1700’s

[midnight ocean]

they could have lasted twice as long if it werent for smallpox

[hollow garden]

What if we make it so that the king wasn't stupid and didn't invite Cortez to his palace

[spring bison]

that is because of guns

and the european armies being just stronger than an medieval native american state

[midnight ocean]

Thats just wrong

[spring bison]

they would still die

[spring bison]

tfym

what are you talking about

[midnight ocean]

Guns are one of the least important factors when it comes to the reason the europeans were able to easily beat the aztecs

[spring bison]

this guy clearly didnt read my next message

[midnight ocean]

You just said stronger

But they were only stronger in specific ways

Like they had steel and horses

[spring bison]

ok this is getting nowhere

[midnight ocean]

which was WAY more important than guns because guns at the time SUCKED

[marsh lance]

There were records of natives running off when firearms were first seen by them

Not records i researched myself obviously because im stupid but

[midnight ocean]

Yeah, but once the natives realised that they took like 5 minutes to reload, constantly jammed, and were hard to use in the jungle I promise you they werent as threatening

[marsh lance]

True

[midnight ocean]

And like I said the aztecs actually had a kind of armor which was bullet resistant

[marsh lance]

Is this real

[midnight ocean]

because once again guns at the time sucked

[midnight ocean]

based

How did we go from a map war hypothetical to talking about the aztecs

[spring bison]

least schizo facebook user

[marsh lance]

Didn’t yoy bring it up

[hollow garden]

I wonder which kind of people this guy dislikes

🤔

[midnight ocean]

this is detectives secret facebook account

[hollow garden]

real

[fallen cipher]

@wild mason can I join now

[wild mason]

Oh shit @fallen cipher I forgot

Yeah

Choose a race, name, and color

[balmy epoch]

turks

[wild mason]

#1285747018664509462 has the info

[sullen pawn]

💀

[spring bison]

I hate all types of people equally

[wild mason]

Codlu
Mercantile Archetype
Vinthari
Boreal Forest

Inkall
Bardic Archetype
Dellan
Chaparral

Ri-Zheou
Austere Archetype
Dellan
Stone Forest

Sant'Raashi
Warrior Archetype
Menterr
Chaparral

Ethelrl
Shamanistic Archetype
Menterr
Redwood Forest

Mrekrin
Zealot Archetype
Dellan
Cold Steppe

@queen raptor Thoughts on the new NPC states ( i trust you because kleznam trusts you and kleznam is as pure as Jesus )

[marsh lance]

https://tenor.com/view/discord-star-starboard-emoji-star-emoji-gif-26818533

[spring bison]

wb mfs try not to star every message

[naive swift]

Balkan mentality

[wild mason]

Wronk ping

[marsh lance]

Real

[marsh lance]

I like them

Also real

Kleznam is HALAL

Sometimes he says that i am wholesome, but i do not believe him because he is much more

@spring bison was i schizo or not today talking to acnaq

Are your proud lebanon

[midnight ocean]

Can people stop playing the dellan

theyre like a majority now

[wild mason]

Rats being the majority makes sense

They are inclined to spread way more

[midnight ocean]

there is 100% gonna be racism

[fallen cipher]

There's like only 1 good race

[midnight ocean]

I was right

[fallen cipher]

@balmy epoch are you playing this map war

[balmy epoch]

maybe

[midnight ocean]

I like how nobody is choosing the deer people despite them being easily the most balanced but people just cant stand the concept of femboys

[fallen cipher]

If you do choose the lizard people

[balmy epoch]

too late

[fallen cipher]

The only good race

[spring bison]

im banning you

[balmy epoch]

i chose the deer people cuz they were the closest to human

[fallen cipher]

Are you fucking stupid

[hollow garden]

In deer society this is a MALE

I'm sorry but this is too much

[midnight ocean]

exactly honey bee gets it

[balmy epoch]

yes i just read the names i didn’t read anything else

[hollow garden]

Fakher did you choose viranthi

You know you want to

Project your wants

We all know about them

[fallen cipher]

Race: menterr
Name: Fakherland
Colour: 216577FF

[fallen cipher]

Or just blue

[balmy epoch]

i hate nokotan

[marsh lance]

REAL

https://tenor.com/view/my-deer-friend-nokotan-horns-gif-3732105119613708162

[marsh lance]

Vinrathi males during the invention of electricity

[fallen cipher]

@wild mason can you show me the map btw

[marsh lance]

You have made the right and the wrong choice

[midnight ocean]

#1285747018664509462 also its pinned

[wild mason]

Thats not accurate at all I swear I showed you what they looked like

[fallen cipher]

How

[marsh lance]

Right choice: Menterr
Wrong choice: making the most unoriginal name ever

[wild mason]

Can you please choose something different than Fakherland 🙏

[midnight ocean]

by the time we get to the modern age theyre all gonna look like nokotan

[fallen cipher]

Why not

[wild mason]

Their faces have FUR, and are shaped like DEER

[hollow garden]

Shikinonko nokono koshitantan

[marsh lance]

Shhh dont worry blumi, do not spawn him randomly, rig the spinning wheel and spawn him near me, there i will give him his name as slaves 🤫🤫 🤑

[marsh lance]

Real klez

[balmy epoch]

like Adıgə Xəku

[hollow garden]

What are menterr

I forgot again

[fallen cipher]

I'm going to kill you

[hollow garden]

Alien

[marsh lance]

Sop it klez

[spring bison]

I love Brazilian Politics

[hollow garden]

This is my headcanon

[fallen cipher]

https://tenor.com/view/cicak-goyang-gif-25298070

[hollow garden]

You won't be able to change it

[wild mason]

https://tenor.com/view/we-can-make-it-together-virus-wash-your-hands-old-gif-16723492

[hollow garden]

okay I will sopping

[midnight ocean]

10 thousand years of just living like humans will change this

[balmy epoch]

so beautiful

[hollow garden]

What happened

Did another coup happen

[marsh lance]

What did you doa today kleza

[spring bison]

violence in a debate

[wild mason]

https://tenor.com/view/pig-falling-funny-eating-spaghetti-gif-27487222

[hollow garden]

Insane

[balmy epoch]

almost as good as nokhchiycho

[spring bison]

schizo

[fallen cipher]

noooo

[marsh lance]

Please be merciful i’m in rehab

[spring bison]

shut up

[marsh lance]

shut up

[spring bison]

https://tenor.com/view/crazyoldman-crazy-brainrot-gif-456860555340668160

[marsh lance]

https://tenor.com/view/speech-bubble-goku-gif-5369664440390265678

[hollow garden]

NOTHING pat I did NOTHING 😢

[marsh lance]

WHAT

[hollow garden]

Except work on my math work a bit

[marsh lance]

that is okay

Take solace in boring and slow days, for you may never get another chance to enjoy them aswell

[hollow garden]

Lebron

This is haram

[spring bison]

why did my anti-virus start tweaking out

its only this one

my other one is not showing up anything

[hollow garden]

What about you pat

[midnight ocean]

Im in

[hollow garden]

What did you doing today

[hollow garden]

Maybe it's library is not updated

[spring bison]

you lied to me again

[hollow garden]

or a false positive

[spring bison]

btw

[hollow garden]

I'm sorry lebron

[sullen pawn]

Dude

I got into beef with a dude

And people are defending me

[spring bison]

not uncommon

[sullen pawn]

BUT THEY CALLING ME S FRESHMEN

[marsh lance]

Always live mindful of your surroundings and fellow humans!
Live freely and be humble, count your blessings, wether they were bestowed by the divine or by ones close to you or even strangers! Remember to express gratitude!

[spring bison]

extremely rare

[sullen pawn]

Don’t wanna leak snaps

WOOPS

Let me crop it one sec

[midnight ocean]

this is so real

[hollow garden]

so?

[marsh lance]

Lets see uhh. I went school.. tweaked out over geometry, went home, played blumistan, and uhh

Thats it

[sullen pawn]

I’m a sophomore…

[midnight ocean]

never call it blumistan

[marsh lance]

Liar

[hollow garden]

was it a good day in pat days

[sullen pawn]

It’s interesting how sometimes new gen game roomers show it and other times you can’t tell

[hollow garden]

Real

[midnight ocean]

what does this mean

[hollow garden]

Garlic your school rep is not that good

It seems

[sullen pawn]

It isn’t

[marsh lance]

I guess so,m

[sullen pawn]

I’m not popular

[marsh lance]

Just boring yknow

[sullen pawn]

People don’t rlly know who I am outside of other sophomores

[spring bison]

you confessed

btw

[marsh lance]

L leak?

[marsh lance]

Wait.. i did

??

[wild mason]

To

[frosty drum]

Hello chat

[hollow garden]

I mean popularity doesn't really matter

Unless you care about it

[wild mason]

Should I get crunk on the Bob?

[hollow garden]

Hey skillerz

[frosty drum]

what?

[wild mason]

Crunk on the Bob man, crunk on the Bob man

[frosty drum]

Wtf does that mean

[spring bison]

schizophrenic gibberish is impossible to understand

[sullen pawn]

Dude you’re actually so weird

That isn’t even a “oh wow you got me there!” It’s just weird

[wild mason]

You're not welcome in the Pineapple Palace

[spring bison]

You're not welcome in the Pea Palace

[wild mason]

LeBron is a cryptid who lives in walls and starts online arguments from a crusty 1998 MacBook

[spring bison]

https://tenor.com/view/crazyoldman-crazy-brainrot-gif-456860555340668160

[sullen pawn]

why did Lebron fall off so hard

give me 3 reasons how you didn’t fall off

[spring bison]

ok bro

[lucid oriole]

@wild mason is it over

[frosty drum]

LeBron Fell Hard from his prime
From what I heard

[wild mason]

Yeah it's been over for a while

[sullen pawn]

The day you fall off we might as well delete game room

[lucid oriole]

🐺

[frosty drum]

Can I make some actions in dms since I didn't have time during the session?

[lucid oriole]

the blister popped when i was at work

[spring bison]

not hosting mapwars is not an factor in falling off

[wild mason]

I'm gonna have to say no because last time getting commands regardless of what I was trying to do was awful

[spring bison]

why are yall using this fall off term when old me was objectivelly worse

[marsh lance]

Papa lebrona.. can you tell us of your olden days?

[spring bison]

no

🤫

[hollow garden]

Ngl you have risen up

[spring bison]

LITERALLY

[hollow garden]

The old LeBron was intolerable