If im setting up a gdt
#⌨coders-cave
barren shale
GDT Schwimmkurse und Triathlontraining - Erreiche jedes Ziel mit uns - für Anfänger und Fortgeschrittene - Schwimmkurse und Schwimmtraining für jedes Level.
im joking
gdt is obviously gas discharge tube
orchid frigate
It is located somewhere in memory and is usually rodata for safety
orchid frigate
I need therapy with yo mom
orchid frigate
maybe Grand dictionnaire terminologique?
Grand dreft tauto
tidal elbow
Mostly react tbf
Wasm is exactly as the name says
Web assembly
Its a compilation target
orchid frigate
well by web assembly
I see
assembly
but somehow the registers are...web
somehow
main brook
its basically just
system code ran on a website
you don't write wasm
you just write code and compile to wasm
you can even like
use ffmpeg on client side
ripe prairie
Well I'm not supposed to be here
next lotus
then why are you here
orchid frigate
all of these warnings are unused vars
that I made and forgot they existed so I made new ones
which is even sadder
orchid frigate
you have to error catch everything
well you have to consider the fact that like 50% of the things I do in it is not very easy to error catch
because good luck catching an error while writing to ports
barren shale
oh fuck
i deleted my ray marching implementation in rust
I cant show you how good my rust code is
barren shale
yes i can
doesnt mean i will
maybe
idk
if im bored
mgiht do
it took me a day last time
i just couldnt clear the console to make it interactive because rust doesnt like windows terminal
orchid frigate
noone likes windows terminal
its slower than literally any other terminal in existance
and its way too different
next lotus
then there comes powershell which only use is for exploits
barren shale
tbh no body cares
knotty root
@knotty root don't sing the entire ABC that's spam
Now stop.
And why are you saying it in coders cave?
This is for coding and programming
orchid frigate
you git gud
barren shale
you git gud
I’m already gud unlike u
cloud solar
hi
orchid frigate
I’m already gud unlike u
u r so nt gud omg
cloud solar
i try to create that shape, can somebody maybe see whats wrong?
verticies:
verticies[0] = new Vector3(-planetSize,-planetSize);
verticies[1] = new Vector3(-planetSize*1.5f,0);
verticies[2] = new Vector3(-planetSize,planetSize);
verticies[3] = new Vector3(planetSize,planetSize);
verticies[4] = new Vector3(planetSize,-planetSize);
traingles
mesh.triangles = new int[] {0,1,2,0,2,3,0,3,4};
cloud solar
nvm problem solved
main brook
and its way too different
doesn't even use UTF-8 by default
lethal egret
i would post my code if i could
why cant you
errant trail
why cant you
his code probably sucks
maybe he uses Haskell 🤮 🤮 🤮 🤮 🤮 🤮 🤮 🤮 🤮 🤮 🤮 🤮 🤮 🤮 🤮
gleaming vault
𝚒𝚝 𝚍𝚎𝚙𝚎𝚗𝚍𝚜 𝚊𝚌𝚝𝚞𝚊𝚕𝚕𝚢
orchid frigate
Guys what is your favourite thing to do in coding
I will go first
My favourite us to read 20 pages of documentation just to realise that it provides no fucking example code and translating the thing written in the pages could be wrapped in 3 fucking sentences
distant wraith
Guys what is your favourite thing to do in coding
Stealing code in stackoverflow.
barren shale
My favourite us to read 20 pages of documentation just to realise that it provid...
my favorite thing is to tell you that none cares about anything you do
lethal egret
his code probably sucks
yeah unlike the based LOLCODE language
lethal egret
Guys what is your favourite thing to do in coding
using the same libraries and apis that self driving cars use to cheat in a roblox tycoon
steel heath
barren shale
using the same libraries and apis that self driving cars use to cheat in a roblo...
none uses python for self driving cars
tidal elbow
none uses python for self driving cars
id disagree w. that
they most definitely use it, likely with tensorflow / similar for machine learning / training
tidal elbow
My favourite us to read 20 pages of documentation just to realise that it provid...
mine is to correct the code of colleague who dont read the docs
and do stupid ass shit
next lotus
My favourite us to read 20 pages of documentation just to realise that it provid...
so, javadocs?
zinc dagger
e
barren shale
they most definitely use it, likely with tensorflow / similar for machine learni...
nope, they use C/C++
you dont need tensorflow when you have a unicorn company
barren shale
i dont think their ml code is open source
hollow bronze
if you read into some articles lots of them note that both python and c++ are used
hollow bronze
not sure how thats not using python
barren shale
alright then
they are using python
they are not running python
even tensorflow
its really C++
and it has a python wrapper
nobody would write ML code in python its just too slow
samething with numpy
hollow bronze
its an interesting balance between time and speed
having speed in an autonomous car would probably be pretty essential I'd imagine
barren shale
it takes around 10 seconds for you to loop through a 500x500 array in python
i dont think that's good
since you have like 10 images of 1000x1000
at least
now do it 20 times a second
xd
hollow bronze
that said python is much faster to write for the same program
and pretty much the go to AI language atm
barren shale
yeah but its all wrappers that's why its not very bad on small scale
hollow bronze
I imagine you'd have to know both languages if you're working on the project either way atm
orchid frigate
this took me a day to make but it was worth it
the big number generator can create numbers ranging from -a few trillion to +a few trillion
it took me the entire day to set up the code right and a few hours to wait it out over a few attempts
RandomOS coming soon 😳
distant wraith
barren shale
this took me a day to make but it was worth it
this is clearly not working
the current year is not 2034
cosmic hamlet
Greg is life
orchid frigate
the current year is not 2034
Im reading the time through the RTC on an emulator
None of that info is correct
I just use it to generate random nums
Besides its a miracle it gives me anything
orchid frigate
Most CMOS batters are dead anyway
orchid frigate
when it takes you all day to generate a random number
It would take you a month to do that yourself
With a bootloader from scratch
And a kernel
barren shale
that's not making a random number generator
that's making a bootloader and a kernel and a random number generator
probably would take me a week
or less
orchid frigate
Ok but I dont remember asking
barren shale
Ok but I dont remember asking
you already told us that you have dementia before
tidal elbow
yeah but its python converted to C++
that;s... not a thing
tidal elbow
yeah but its all wrappers that's why its not very bad on small scale
even as almost entirely wrappers, it's good on a large scale
ive done a lot of ML python work
orchid frigate
@tidal elbow so considering you are someone quite familiar in the field I will ask
could I somehow get a job as an os dev
or are they like
not existant
I have looked at some but all of them are linux distros
tidal elbow
i mean
you could get a job in a company perhaps developing OS-level things for like
certain IoT tech, or even shit like washing machines
but most OS stuff is done on linux distros by either contributors, the foundations themselves or sponsoring companies
for OS stuff you'd have to go for microsoft, apple, a foundation or companies that sell certain machines with computer chips in them (washing machines, coffee machines, fridges, etc)
orchid frigate
hmmm interesting
tidal elbow
foundations include https://www.linuxfoundation.org/about/careers/
orchid frigate
Because I have pretty much been studying OSs for my entire programming career and thats all I know
ok thanks for your help
tidal elbow
Because I have pretty much been studying OSs for my entire programming career an...
self taught or uni?
personally self taught so i dont know much of the uni stuff
orchid frigate
me too
hollow bronze
eh no limit to what you can do even if you have done lots of OS stuff
tidal elbow
https://www.quora.com/How-do-I-build-a-career-in-operating-systems @orchid frigate too
Quora is a good shout for any questions like that
Embedded developer, that's the word i wanted
That would be a very good entry point for OS stuff
And the vast majority of commercial companies will want them
barren shale
self taught + uni = 
tidal elbow
bru
im fully self taught
got myself a raise and bonus within 5 months of joining hahaha
usual pay review is yearly
barren shale
havent learnt anything new in uni yet though
tidal elbow
im 19 and get paid £2k a month so im comfy
barren shale
well that might be okay or great depending on where you live
barren shale
oh that's not too bad
barren shale
yeh
tidal elbow
im on £30800
tidal elbow
lmaoo what job do you have
barren shale
tutoring
barren shale
tutoring pays good
but there are downsides
because you never know when ur gonna get new students and when will old students have enough
its more of $2000 but fiver's 20% fee is just 
unique rose
next lotus
why y'all have problems with money
when you can just bot adfly and get 100$ a day
lol
main brook
that's exploiting
barren shale
Yeah your account will probably be banned before you can withdraw
next lotus
not quite
distant wraith
New channel type? 
tidal elbow
New channel type? <:flushedCat:975029429652848660>
yeah lol
i have ss of it
in the discord developers guild
@distant wraith
hasty bane
New channel type? <:flushedCat:975029429652848660>
...thread only?
w
why?
huh
okay
bold rover
This looks way better and organized
hasty bane
^
hasty bane
better than stage channels at least
uneven jacinth
Ooh discordjs stuffs going on here now?
hollow bronze
looks like threads if they were done properly lol
hardy plover
So, this is the lands they talk of?
main brook
what?
next lotus
interpreter moment
next lotus
why does .toArray() in java loses its collection type
like bruh i swear everytime i write java code it just keeps getting worse who seriously writes on this garbage lmao
rigid magnet
Hi
cloud solar
Hi
orchid frigate
like bruh i swear everytime i write java code it just keeps getting worse who se...
People who know how to write in the language
Which is clearly not you
next lotus
People who know how to write in the language
yes they do and their productivity is slow as hell in java
in C# a list of strings called with .ToArray() returns an array of strings
java being the garbage it is returns a fukin Object[]
dont get me started with the shit ton of types for one simple type, like dude what is this bloated trash even people are confused which to use
in C# we only have one single Date object to use anywhere and it does the thing
orchid frigate
Sometimes I wonder
Why is octal a thing
Google says its used in the different architectures in programming
But I have yet to even hear of it
knotty root
in C# we only have one single Date object to use anywhere and it does the thing
don't trash Java, it is not a bad language you just can't use it, or you didn't learn it properly, I'm a C# coder myself, but Java ain't bad 💀
next lotus
don't trash Java, it is not a bad language you just can't use it, or you didn't ...
you need more experience in c#
knotty root
why would I need more experience?
next lotus
hmmmm lets see
knotty root
I think you don't even know what Java is for
next lotus
I think you don't even know what Java is for
i think you dont even code
knotty root
o yea sure
next lotus
cmon pull out your github let me see some
next lotus
alright it all makes sense now
knotty root
yeah sure, if not uploading to github = complete beginner + not even know how to code
nice mentality + logic
orchid frigate
@knotty root dont listen to him
he is the microsoft fanboy of the channel that is only here to advertise microsoft
knotty root
it's alr I won't get mad at some random guy in a big server
knotty root
he is the microsoft fanboy of the channel that is only here to advertise microso...
I ain't gonna lie C languages are awesome, but Java is not bad at all 😄
knotty root
I think he trashtalked Java because he saw a youtuber who trashtalked it
orchid frigate
I never use c# because its not compiled and too high level
knotty root
but I pretty much only use c++/C
both are good and very fast 😄
orchid frigate
ye
knotty root
I never use c# because its not compiled and too high level
the only C language I know is C#
knotty root
I'm more likely a front end "developer"
orchid frigate
some of my opinions are quite based too
orchid frigate
I'm more likely a front end "developer"
Im the literal opposite of that
I work on the lowest of levels
like os level
knotty root
that's gotta be hard an painful
orchid frigate
not alot of money in the field but its interesting
orchid frigate
that's gotta be hard an painful
everyone says that but if you use the right things
its not more difficult than using a very big library
unless you wanna do things from scratch
then its....its painful
next lotus
@knotty rootdude you're a complete beginner lmao
front end developer sure wow cant beleive learning html took me 3 years
orchid frigate
front end developer sure wow cant beleive learning html took me 3 years
bruh I can also flex on you with a thousand things I know and do on a daily basis but I dont call you a beginner
next lotus
:((
orchid frigate
it has a wordy syntax
next lotus
i know but
knotty root
front end developer sure wow cant beleive learning html took me 3 years
XDDDDDDDDDD
that's why you don't know shit about Java
It took me like max 6 months to learn
knotty root
I think its worse than rust
well they are a littile bit different
used in different scenarios
next lotus
ohfuc friendly fire
next lotus
i dont know where
barren shale
you're moth'er
distant wraith
Message command.
cloud solar
Message command. <:Jerry:543929090974023690>
In what language u doin it?
Like the bot
distant wraith
Python.
cloud solar
Is there any tutorial ?
cloud solar
https://github.com/Pycord-Development/pycord/blob/master/examples/app_commands/c...
Thonka
cloud solar
Nah, phone.
I use calculator
proven kestrel
I use phone too
barren shale
imagine using phone for coding
distant wraith
No PC.
barren shale
tell me you use a keyboard at least
next lotus
programming on phone...
distant wraith
Keyboard?
next lotus
dont tell me you're using onscreen keyboard
distant wraith
🥶
next lotus
salute
next lotus
no just buy a laptop in general lol
distant wraith
Nah.
barren shale
buy a bluetooth keyboard
next lotus
i can barely debug on a 1366x768 screen like just how do you do it in a 7 inch screen
distant wraith
I just code for fun. 
barren shale
did you just compare resoultion and size
barren shale
I just code for fun. <:dankJerry:975742675431096370>
doesnt mean you cant spend 15$ to make it even more fun
you can probably find something for less
distant wraith
when was the last time coding was fun
I like messing with Discord bot.
distant wraith
Message command. <:Jerry:543929090974023690>
Also, here's a dumb code I made.
@bot.message_command(name="Get embeds as JSON")
async def A(ctx, message):
A = message
if A.embeds:
for (B, C) in enumerate(A.embeds):
await ctx.respond(
file=File(
fp=BytesIO(
bytes(f"{C.to_dict()}", encoding="utf8")
),
filename=f"{B+1}-embed.json",
),
ephemeral=True,
)
else:
await ctx.delete()
weird pycord user
hollow bronze
classic pycord with having 50 indents of gibberish to do a simple task
then again that was one of the first programming things I did, and so I have memories of being terrible at it
distant wraith
Replit.
distant wraith
At start?
At making account?
Create a repl.
Select a language you want to make bot.
Like Python or Java.
next lotus
Create a repl.
YOU USE REPLIT ON PHONE,???
at first i thought it was ok bc u might be using an app as an ide but
distant wraith
hasty bane
classic pycord with having 50 indents of gibberish to do a simple task
Just Use Disnake
im surprised dpy havent released v2 yet
next lotus
just use Discord.NET
the gentleman's library for building discord bots :)
discord.net > dsharp
hollow bronze
im surprised dpy havent released v2 yet
probably because the owner had the whole ordeal with discord and quit development for a while
I've used js, python, and c# for discord bots and quite frankly I could use any of them interchangably and not really care
wet girder
when dpy v2 comes out it will make making discord bots with python viable again lol
distant wraith
hollow bronze
the one thing is accessing newer content
I know dpy wasn't as fast to access that as js was officially
wet girder
there's so much new and good stuff that dpy doesn't have that it's painful
hollow bronze
but I could do 3rd party python stuff on top of it and access it
hollow bronze
there's so much new and good stuff that dpy doesn't have that it's painful
most of the new stuff is pretty much a game changer for the bots
bots used to literally just read messages and maybe make an embed
no buttons, dropdowns, slash commands
and all of the new new stuff thats coming out
shame that it took them so long
wet girder
yep
hollow bronze
getting to play with the code?
in some ways yes
in other ways:
oh fuck thats a bug, and thats not right, and AAAAAAA
wet girder
coding is not that fun but programming is fun af
hasty bane
just use Discord.NET
that also works
can you send me a slash command example for discord net because what i've seen melted my eyes
crimson pelican
There's a difference between coding and programming?
wet girder
coding is just writing code. No problem solving, planning etc.
Programming is a bigger combination of things to do
when you code you just turn already planned software architecture into code
but in programming you first have to think how tf something works
then write it to code
distant wraith
what is *this*
barren shale
what is *this*
fluent api
barren shale
Why tf is the id a ulong
cuz discord
hasty bane
fluent api
long
hasty bane
would be longer without it
oh shit that's subcommands
you're actually right
lmfao
fuck
i thought it was some kind of option thing adder
hasty bane
dude this is actually looking good
im considering quickly moving my disnake project to discord.net
while its still small
next lotus
what is *this*
wtf are you doing
cant you put all of these in a loop literally the only thing changing is A, B and C
next lotus
Why not have negative IDs
ids should be positive
orchid frigate
ids should be positive
Why
half warrenBOT
🔇 Muted DANI#6840 indefinitely
hollow bronze
what is *this*
yeah uh I made stuff on my end to simplify a lot of that
when messing with .net discord
since c# is pretty good at that
mostly because I didn't want a billion lines of code for like 10 commands
knotty root
you guys willl probably kick me for asking this here but why does the game force a low framerate at 18000 people for me ?
i assume you'll actually know why
hollow bronze
you guys willl probably kick me for asking this here but why does the game force...
it forces a low framerate, probably because its lagging from having so many people
knotty root
i checked with the game running in windowed and task manager at the same time
my cpu is like 30% used
and my gpu even less
its 45 frames at 8000 people
hollow bronze
optimization and usage from dev's end I believe
knotty root
optimization and usage from dev's end I believe
oh okay
hollow bronze
does the same for me
knotty root
thank you for the help
hollow bronze
i looked into it, but I couldn't find anyway on our end to fix it
hollow bronze
here is something that may or may not improve fps
knotty root
alright
hollow bronze
you kinda prove it
gfx-enable-gfx-jobs=1
gfx-enable-native-gfx-jobs=1
to the top of worldbox\worldbox_Data\boot.config
for game stuff specifically I would advise #🔧modding-talk, but this is sort of a unity thing more than a specific worldbox thing I think, but I'm not super in the know
hollow bronze
yeah that should work
hollow bronze
no idea how much performance
its used in other games, something about letting GPU work harder or more
hollow bronze
yeah should be the bottom three
hollow bronze
yeah that'd probably work
knotty root
alrgiht
lemme boot the game up
and try
you see
hahaa
my gpu is a HUGE bottleneck in my poc
p
pc
but either way it is barely used in this game
that help a lot
hollow bronze
im not sure how unity or multithreading or any of that works when it comes to the performance, but I think its for the developers to try and adjust to get better usage
knotty root
im not sure how unity or multithreading or any of that works when it comes to th...
oh okay
i hope they do
if they play their own game theres no way they dont notice
oh
also
144 hertz not supported?
it says it is
but doesnt work at all
hollow bronze
game is locked at 60 fps
knotty root
game is locked at 60 fps
yeah
hollow bronze
I already talked about it to the dev
knotty root
even with vSync off
knotty root
I already talked about it to the dev
oh thanks
barren shale
why would you need anything more than 60 hz on worldbox
you can't see the difference
hollow bronze
it is smoother
same reason people go from 60hz to 120 or 144 or whatever for monitors
I mean it is straight up noticeably smoother in 144 for me
nowhere as strong as 30 to 60 for me, but it is nice
also another thing is that my fps would drop below 60 when its lagging slightly and thats less noticable when i lock it to like 75 or whatever
wet girder
60hz is bearable but damn is 120 or 144 better
hollow bronze
in my personal experience its just smoother. Worth shelling loads of money over? probably not
wet girder
I can't see lot of difference between 120 and 144 tho
wet girder
in my personal experience its just smoother. Worth shelling loads of money over?...
yep
hollow bronze
i have 75hz monitor as my main and a 144hz as my secondary atm
hollow bronze
144 was my main for a while, but my large one i got so that i now have 2 monitors is larger but less hz
I should probably game on the 144 one but its a pain to move it to the center everytime i do that
wet girder
I wouldn't bother if you don't tryhard
doesn't affect that much
but when tryharding every little bit helps
hollow bronze
I mean its just a nat upgrade, but it wont completely ruin the experience to not
I use second monitor moderately. Extremely useful when making something in blender or unity
reading docs or watching videos while going along
amazes me people do that on a laptop
wet girder
When I do Unity stuff I wish I had 3 or 4 monitors
I have 3 at school and it's really damn nice
wet girder
amazes me people do that on a laptop
my dad only works on his laptop on 1 monitor and I'm amazed how he gets anything done
He works from our sofa mostly lol
And I know he uses like 6 applications at the same time because he showed hes development environment and it's fucking crazy
lol had to take my lunch break an hour early because windows started updating
tbf it did warn me yesterday but I completely forgot to do the update after I was done
hollow bronze
windows is evil
wet girder
working with html elements be like
barren shale
I mean it is straight up noticeably smoother in 144 for me
smoother maybe but the game probably wont reach 100 fps unless you got a pretty good CPU
at least when you got a decent population
barren shale
working with html elements be like
jquery be like
hollow bronze
smoother maybe but the game probably wont reach 100 fps unless you got a pretty ...
not sure good CPU is the issue
I mean technically I guess you could solve optimization by having a god CPU
or you could just work more efficiently
looks like the utilization of the cpu and gpu is maybe lacking. I've tried looking into it but with less than helpful results
but I find having smoother results even if its part of the time is nice
even simply having just above 60 makes it feel less laggy
from my own debugging I found it had lots of its usage simply from code.
main methods like mapbox that is the like father of a boat load of the things in the game
not sure how you optimize that without just going in and trying to shimmy performance out of every method
bottlenecks perhaps? i havent done any unity optimizations myself
wet girder
time to create WorldBox optimization mod and go through the pain 
hollow bronze
eh
maybe make changes to the assembly on my own side
but at the end of the day if I could solve optimization I'd just tell maxim and have him include it
since optimization is an issue they want to solve too
i get kind of a extreme effort to reduce as much as possible as a mod, but i kinda just wanna know what causes it to use as low as it does gpu and cpu wise
wet girder
does WorldBox use more than one core?
Like I know Minecraft is single core and bottle necked af because of it
so could there be something similar with WorldBox?
hollow bronze
im thinking thats possible
which is why im currently pulling up a performance viewer or something so i can see what cores are being used
wet girder
if the cpu usage is like 30% when playing it could be using only one of the cores and pushing that core to it's limits
hollow bronze
yeah thats about right
30%
gpu sits at like 5%
and im not super laggy but like 45-55 fps
which is not optimal
wet girder
WorldBox probably doesn't need to use the GPU a lot lol
hollow bronze
its not as bad mobile wise because mobile moment
but pc you really notice performance
wet girder
yep
hollow bronze
especially when you have a rig like mine which can play modern games fairly decently
tfw ram is my biggest limitor atm
i just need to order more lmao
i keep forgetting
wet girder
tfw ram is my biggest limitor atm
how much ram do you have?
hollow bronze
16
wet girder
yeah lol
hollow bronze
these days im eating like 10 gb doing nothing
hollow bronze
i have 6 cores, neat
hollow bronze
ill probably order some ram and new hard drives
my 2070 will probably last me a few more years
wet girder
Hard drives are kinda obsolete nowadays. SSDs are cheap enough and even sata ssds have big difference to hard drives
wet girder
my 2070 will probably last me a few more years
that's god tier ngl
wet girder
lol
barren shale
looks like the utilization of the cpu and gpu is maybe lacking. I've tried looki...
i dont think its gpu
i think the ai
is too much
and unity sux and multi threading
so you just need to get a cpu with higher single core performance
hollow bronze
hmm
hollow bronze
yeah maybe multithreading
hollow bronze
i need a big map
wet girder
there are coroutines and that's it
that's dumb af
hollow bronze
or populus rather
barren shale
that's dumb af
its very hard to do so they skipped it
i mean there are jobs and stuff like that
so its kinda of like multi threading
but its much harder to do
wet girder
its very hard to do so they skipped it
Would be understandable if unity wasn't the most common game engine used
hollow bronze
something either jobs or similar is used in worldbox
for things like boats for instance
wet girder
doesn't seem to help that much it seems
hollow bronze
maybe just elaborate actions
i dont know if its the same or even similar i just vaguely remember
will have to look
i think its just delegates or whatever so probably not
extreme 28% utilization
on my cpu
on a 20k person map with 20fps
hollow bronze
maybe the answer is simple
code be lag
that said GC.Alloc meant to be making so many calls?
looks like each of the spikes gl alloc goes from like 2k to 20k
When deep profiling is not enabled The GC.Alloc row entry is used as a catch-all for allocations performed under the stack level it is at.
neat
time to continue further down the performance rabbit hole
orchid frigate
I have been researching paging and how to translate physical to virtual addresses for a week only to find out that it is specified in the multiboot documentations that everything is identity mapped and I dont have to do shit about it because of it
I both hate this and like this
barren shale
that said GC.Alloc meant to be making so many calls?
this is what happens when you dont use pools
smh
but i think they are already using pools
why so many allocations though
hollow bronze
in this instance i just needed to enable deep profiler
so i could see the individual methods being ran
basically they group them all together to prevent lag
barren shale
group what
hollow bronze
methods\
all the code that is using resources
so the method has a whole bunch of other methods under it that are ran
without deep profile it just groups them together
barren shale
oh youre talking about the profiler
hollow bronze
yeah
doing that i can see what methods in particular are causing most usage properly now
barren shale
but its not about methods causing usage
hollow bronze
as you can expect actors and buildings
hollow bronze
actually there is one method in the buildings that is causing like 20% of the usage and i dont really know why
but im not actually fixing any of that im just curious
carmine willow
Question: do we know how long until update becomes available for IOS?
daring star
1.14 is out
true quail
@stone fractal when is the update coming out for iPhone?
knotty root
Insta banned
full spire
<@163377168263413760> when is the update coming out for iPhone?
Also it prob needs approval from apple / under review, so a few days
next lotus
apple is greedy af like 30% cut from in app purchases thats why devs stay away from appstore as much as possible
distant wraith
<@163377168263413760> when is the update coming out for iPhone?
Pins and also don't ping dev.
true quail
Also it prob needs approval from apple / under review, so a few days
Okay thx
true quail
Pins and also don't ping dev.
Sorry I’m new to the server
main brook
rule no.1
rule no.2
don't associate #⌨coders-cave with anything slightly technical or related to worldbox
like that one guy who had issue with their steam email and asked help here
next lotus
wet girder
Question: do we know how long until update becomes available for IOS?
wrong channel but probably long time knowing apple
past goblet
.-
next lotus
carmine willow
wrong channel but probably long time knowing apple
Thanks
knotty root
For android when It out the update
distant wraith
So coding related.
wet girder
Wrong channel again but imagine not having 0.14 on Android yet
I've had it for well over a week
next lotus
So coding related.
everything is coding related
you're using a chat app
which is coded
distant wraith
Wrong channel again but imagine not having 0.14 on Android yet
Beta tester
hoary hound
@barren shale pong
hoary hound
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wary lodge
for i, v in moderators
console.log("GIVE US WORLDBOX NOW!!! >:(")
end
then heres one I made
If you've made a working mod for WorldBox you can dm me about it
but wrong channel
real flicker
T
faint anvil
💀 Tryna hack me or what 💀
tiny jungle
Golira
tidal elbow
obtains the wake lock and runs a background service to open up a http page (and a websocket) for our web app to use
wake lock acquiring is probably a bad way to go about it but yeah
errant trail
omg hacker!!!!
main brook
```lua
for i, v in moderators
console.log("GIVE US WORLDBOX NOW!!! >:(")
end
`...
woah a cool hybird of lua and js
very legit code
next lotus
opinions on kotlin ?
another garbage language that utilizes the ancient jvm :)
next lotus
oh no another useless keyword seriously
look at how wordy this is
this is just csharp int square(int x) => x * x; in c# lol
next lotus
just realized if c# is wordy, other languages are the same or even worse
next lotus
```js
square(x) => { x * x };
```
because you dont specify the return value but yeah
a small benefit from a language that isnt type strict
barren shale
next lotus
wait a second
is that async!?!?!?!!!??
you copied that from c#!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
main brook
retardation???? you copied that from c#!!!!
next lotus
retardation???? you copied that from c#!!!!
retardation? is that some sort of library?
tidal elbow
yeah its a way to delay tasks of course
tidal elbow
is that async!?!?!?!!!??
lol js async is just glorified promises
main brook
there's 3 ways
of how async works
the
Future based
Promise based
and Defer based
tidal elbow
python uses defer but can support futures, iirc
tidal elbow
ah, didnt think it would with the gil in the way
main brook
and asyncio
next lotus
bad if it spawns a new thread
main brook
true the GIL suck
next lotus
in c# it only uses one thread as much as possible
tidal elbow
they're all on the same thread lol
main brook
the futures are ran on that same thread
async is 1 threaded
or what you call
green thread
next lotus
but thread pools are like threads waiting to be run
main brook
thread pool are for workers thread
literally meant
to wait
until something
is wanting to be run
multithreading uses os thread
which constantly switch
at blocking operation
you can use processes
but if you spawn more than your hardware can provide
it'll run similar to multithreading
tidal elbow
yeah python does the fake threading doesnt it
tidal elbow
because of the GIL (i saw discussion to remove / adapt for true multithreading but guido didnt wanna)
main brook
GIL is important
otherwise data would be wack
modern server should be built with async
because async is good for long waiting operation
like receiving messages
because it runs other things
while waiting
unlike threads
which just stalls
although async sucks on windows
because the lack of select()
you literally make your own IOCP
and its limited to sockets
no file descriptor
even tho sockets are file descriptor
orchid frigate
isnt async multitasking just the cpu switching between tasks really fast while executing them
thats what I read on the osdev wiki atleast
main brook
async is cooperative
it usually works like this
task 1 -> wait for task 2
run task 2 -> wait for message
run task 3 -> sleep for 1
task 2 received message -> run task 1 from where task 2 is ran
task 3 done sleeping
its cooperative
because the
await syntax
meant you wanna switch
to another task
like waiting for a respond
you await the function
and it'll just schedule a function to be called when the server gets a respond
it works by waiting for file descriptor
so on each iteration
it'll wait for x
orchid frigate
and it'll just schedule a function to be called when the server gets a respond
why bring a server into this
main brook
no idea
main brook
it'll wait for x
then retrieve the descriptor data
if its ready to be written/read
and call its corresponding function
and in the function it would mark the task as complete
its complex
and i devoted lile
6 month into it
read the source code multiple times
threading is uncooperative
because of its "operation threshold"
after a certain operation or blocking ones
it'll switch
so you won't know which will be run next
in async you can have
121212121212
but in threading
1221122121
processes runs in parallel
orchid frigate
ok well this is something I will need to remember to read 30 times to understand it when implementing it
main brook
basically
async is cooperative Task handling
threading is uncooperative and undefined Task switching
async and threading has its own pros and cons
that's why you usually use them alongside each other
with worker threads
async would run on main thread
and anything needed to be run in background that's blocking
like file handling
it'll be run on the worker thread
on the other hand
Processes are used specifically to spawn new process
a new whole environment
orchid frigate
ok so to understand it better I decided to look into what a task is in reality and this makes a whole lot of sense now
typedef struct {
uint32_t eax, ebx, ecx, edx, esi, edi, esp, ebp, eip, eflags, cr3;
} Registers;
typedef struct Task {
Registers regs;
struct Task *next;
//Probably alot of other stuff but the os dev wiki implementation is very basic
} Task;
a task is kinda like its own...workspace
orchid frigate
its got its own page in memory, registers, everything
orchid frigate
well duh
well thats actually pretty important because that means its got its own virtual memory which is really cool and safe
main brook
its in a heap memory
but
this also introduce
an issue
what if you wanna share that memory
to other Task
orchid frigate
its in a heap memory
Im not sure if the heap defines where the page is or if the heap is inside the page
main brook
python solves this with Context
main brook
Im not sure if the heap defines where the page is or if the heap is inside the p...
prolly the page in the heap
Task are good
very vague statement
tbh
main brook
what
orchid frigate
lemme get ms paint in here
main brook
haydot you're giving a stroke
usually Task doesn't make its own virtual memory
the function itself should do it
since all you need for the Task is
its execution state
and result
orchid frigate
usually Task doesn't make its own virtual memory
wait isnt that the kernel's job
I mean
orchid frigate
you wouldnt want the user to be able to interfere with physical memory
main brook
yes
haydot
i know
i meant the Task isn't required to allocate its own memory
for its data
orchid frigate
tasks are dumb Im implementing them my own way smh
thats how you deal with stuff you dont understand everyone 👍
the interesting thing about this tactic is that each time I do it I end up spending 3 months designing something
main brook
i spend 1 week
orchid frigate
only for it to end up with it being the exact same thing as the real thing
but worse
and unfinished
main brook
👍
orchid frigate
alright well ima send a coffee emoji in chat as a sign that I will be leaving for now
☕
main brook
okie
knotty root
on the debug
distant wraith
Termux?
cloud solar
on the debug
but where
elfin phoenix
All samsung users can now install mods on their phones using samsung dex
crisp hornet
Fuck you group
Ficou bom dia pra vc tbm meu amor e vc como está a vida de jogos de hoje e o dia das mães que Deus abençoe sempre sua vida e sua família e que Deus abençoe sempre sua vida e sua
hoary hound
Ficou bom dia pra vc tbm meu amor e vc como está a vida de jogos de hoje e o dia...
not the right language nor the right channel, please check #817762451293470730
knotty root
is Worldbox in C++, or C#?
wary lodge
is Worldbox in C++, or C#?
it was made in unity bro
main brook
which uses C#
main brook
All samsung users can now install mods on their phones using samsung dex
All worldbox commenter can go do their worldbox related stuff out of this place
would probably be better in #🔧modding-talk
knotty root
it was made in unity bro
ok man chill, didn't know
errant trail
useless fact: my biggest coding project have 350~ lines of code
const func = build[state.obj[id].type].src[event];
if (typeof func != "function") return -1;
self = Object.assign({}, state.obj[id], (self || {}))
return func(self);
```and it is filled with this type of cancerok
hollow bronze
```js
const func = build[state.obj[id].type].src[event];
if (typeof func != "fun...
does it work though?
next lotus
ofc it does its javascript
hollow bronze
useless fact: my biggest coding project have 350~ lines of code
the joy of getting larger and larger projects is testing how good you are at organization
and sometimes remembering what it all does