⌨coders-cave

[main brook]

and other protocols are based on those

two

http v1/v2 are based off TCP

while http v3 ate based off UDP with quicc

websockets are tcp

most realtime media are transported with udp

and TO MAKE IT ASYNCHRONOUS

os offers functions for polling fds

like

epoll for macos

select for linux

and iocp for windows

(iocp is a pain to implement)

those will block a process/thread until the list of fd's are ready to be read/write

and the rest is handled by the os I/O

[orchid frigate]

wdym by the os IO

Hardware IO?

[main brook]

i probably mean

the lower level

stuff

like

there's an internal I/O happening

with the socket

[orchid frigate]

ok wait lets define IO

input/output

[main brook]

yes

they're in charge of the socket

reading and writing

sending

[orchid frigate]

so we input what and output what to what

[main brook]

and receiving

[main brook]

packets

we receive packets

but

[orchid frigate]

Networking is bad a computer doesnt need to connect to the internet

[main brook]

we're not receiving it yet

until we specifically

receive it

as in calling the function

otherwise those are still at the host buffer

[main brook]

it doesn't usually

but the network adapter

its another story

[orchid frigate]

why did people make so many damn protocols

just let it be "Aight ima send you these bytes making this thing"

single simple protocol

not all those udp things

I sound like a grandpa that used to develop the first computer lmao

"Those damn kids making all that networking jazz back in the day we had to write the bytes to everything ourselfs"

"And create our computers out of sticks and rocks"

[wet reef]

.

[orchid frigate]

..

[uneven jacinth]

…

[cloud solar]

....

[wet girder]

I learned basics of networking with this:
https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLIhvC56v63IJVXv0GJcl9vO5Z6znCVb1P

haven't really needed anything more

[orchid frigate]

The thing is just theory wont be enough

I will need to dive deep into documentations to find the right ports to different parts of the network hardware

Which always brings great pain to a man

😔

Luckily enough I will first learn filesystems because fuck the internet amirite

[wet girder]

sounds fun

[orchid frigate]

yes except I dont even know what manufacturers...manufacture them

nor if their documentation will have ports

nor if where they would put that

I would say it would take me up to 10 hours to find that

[next lotus]

networking is izi :)

[main brook]

yes

for hs

us

[harsh orbit]

tek nerds of worldbox

how do i fix wifi reciver problems

[wet girder]

what's your WiFi receiver model and what's the problem?

[harsh orbit]

mediatek

its not the wifi

[wet girder]

doesn't tell me shit. I need the exact model

and I need to know what's the problem

[harsh orbit]

wifi 6

mt7921

[wet girder]

and what's the problem with it?

[harsh orbit]

unnatural ping

and slow speeds

its not the internet

[wet girder]

You can try installing new drivers

[harsh orbit]

i did but nothing changed

do i have to reset it?

wdym

1 year

[wet girder]

I'd say it's the internet. Can't seem to find any reasons in Google why it would be the receiver

[harsh orbit]

well its not the internet

ik that for sure

every other device works

[wet girder]

have you checked the ping on other devices?

[harsh orbit]

yes

[wet girder]

You can try this:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Xg8X-CunQak

[harsh orbit]

my previous laptop which could barely run had less ping

and it used the same wifi

[barren shale]

That’s why you only get laptops with intel Wi-Fi cards

[wet girder]

This is what school does to your github

[bold rover]

Hellish 28 contributions?

[wet girder]

my teacher made me do stuff from here
https://lab.github.com/

[next lotus]

people who cant code be like

fix my wifi

fix my printer

fix my fridge

[hoary hound]

oh, so you are a programmer?

[wet girder]

how tf do you setup mongo db on debian

[barren shale]

then hack this facebook account for me

[orchid frigate]

Ah so you are a programmer?
Pls fix the TV its not working

"mom im a programmer I look at colorful words all day I have no idea how this works"

[bold rover]

Ow

[next lotus]

please

stop using db

dbs are just stupid hardware hogging garbage

better write your own using List and local file

[wet girder]

I would but Speciesbox was made to use mongodb and recreating the whole db with the dp dump without mongodb is time consuming

[next lotus]

had a server using mysql as db for weeks i had nightmares about random 500s happening in my db and turns out mysql was overloading hard

[hollow bronze]

store everything in new lines on one big text file

[next lotus]

wrote my own db using collections and local .json and its faster and lighter

[wet girder]

there is 40mb worth of text made to be used in mongodb

[hollow bronze]

like existing text?

[wet girder]

yes

for speciesbox

[hollow bronze]

that part sounds way easier than trying to rewrite the code to a different system kek

I guess you'd probably want to load it through mongodb to convert to another though

[wet girder]

I'd love to put it to firebase

idk how easy that would be

[hollow bronze]

I'm a big fan of json

but I've only used it for like games and mods type stuff

[orchid frigate]

My only experience with json is writing building options for rust

So I would say its pretty good

[hollow bronze]

its pretty straight forward in my experience, in accessing, exporting, importing, etc

[pallid fjord]

I saw the game code when it crashed

[tidal elbow]

what a job does to mine

i cant upload ss

goddamn

github.com/amcwb

[cloud solar]

what do u think abt error 1?

||i mean http message code||

[orchid frigate]

what do u think about page faults?

||im talking about page faults||

also @cloud solar wanna stream

[main brook]

like

1XX

i think those are

just operations

like sending data or something

more of a log

i think

[cloud solar]

[barren shale]

that would work if you have a stable server and your app is small

[barren shale]

firebase super ez to use

i recommend

[wet girder]

I just need to somehow convert these fucking bsons to json and upload those to firebase

then I need to change all of the code referencing the database in speciesbox code

and then I can host speciesbox

lot's of work to do

[errant trail]

yeah

me too

[wet girder]

I don't usually do projects that I could really show in public. As either I am just fucking around with something new and the project would be embarrasing af or I am doing something that doesn't make sense to share the code for security reasons

[wet girder]

but if anyone wants to work on speciesbox I'd appreciate help ;)

[errant trail]

dont share credentials and only share codes

ez

or you should just make the things secure even if you show it so they cant just look at the code yknow

[hoary hound]

I'd help ya if I didn't have that thing to finish, or else mastef will kill me

I know for a fact that if I try to handle more than one project at once, I don't get anything done

[barren shale]

what language ?

wtf is speciesbox anyways

[hoary hound]

#📖sb-info

[barren shale]

too much for me

my brain is

[hollow bronze]

js, (suffering)

[barren shale]

was it too hard to not use ts at least

[hollow bronze]

like other RPG bots but based on worldbox is easiest to explain

[wet girder]

it was made by nikon not me. Speciesbox is quite nice if you get over the js

[barren shale]

we can do some magic

make it ts

[wet girder]

if ts support discord api and firebase sure

[barren shale]

im using ts with firebase

[wet girder]

gud gud

[barren shale]

i think firebase is written in ts

[wet girder]

lmao

[barren shale]

cuz its better

i can convert everything

[hollow bronze]

make it a c# bot

https://tenor.com/view/pepe-laugh-kek-intensifies-kek_intensifies-gif-10111909

[barren shale]

bro

big brain

[hollow bronze]

actually there is c# api somewhere but good god if anyone knows if its any good

https://github.com/discord-net/Discord.Net

[barren shale]

api for what

for discord

[hollow bronze]

nah for bots

looks like it has a decent following

[barren shale]

i hate using wrappers

[hollow bronze]

you'll hate candy

[barren shale]

what's c a n d y

[hollow bronze]

https://tenor.com/view/candy-sweet-candies-delicious-yummy-gif-5769440

that stuff

[barren shale]

i dont hate this

[hollow bronze]

they come in wrappers

kek

converting from js to c# tells me it would be awful to do

you can already do this (its called github)

[barren shale]

@wet girder what do you think ?

C# ?

[barren shale]

||stackoverflow||

make a base class that you can inherit from

[hollow bronze]

i have a stack overflow tshirt, its the least I could do

[barren shale]

do they ship to syria ?

https://tenor.com/view/korea-slap-kimchi-gif-8906520

spam ?

[hollow bronze]

pretty sure they dont even have a store anymore

[barren shale]

looks like spam

[barren shale]

so how much ?

[hollow bronze]

you can buy some random amazon one though

cant you just google it

easier to look at examples in my opinion

if you think google sucks you're going to be in for a long one when it comes to coding

as it turns out the structure built off of code has lots of good info about code

[barren shale]

public abstract class Shape
{
  public abstract float GetArea();
}

public class Rectangle : Shape 
{
  public int Width { get; set; }
  public int Height { get; set; }

  public Rectangle(int width, int height)
  {
    Width = width;
    Height = height;
  }

  public override float GetArea()
  {
    return Width * Height
  }
}

[hollow bronze]

overrides are rad

I've used it with some unity game stuff and its noice

[barren shale]

coding on discord chat is not as bad as i thought it would be

[hollow bronze]

discord has markdown which is noice

[barren shale]

abstract classes are the best

[hollow bronze]

I had some discord plugins when I had betterdiscord that improved it a bunch too

[barren shale]

betterdiscord

[hollow bronze]

now I just use the web browser because quite frankly I barely use discord

[hollow bronze]

the equivalent of modded discord

[barren shale]

mhm

[hollow bronze]

essentially lets you add plugins that change/add things to discord

lots of great ones

[hoary hound]

isn't it against discord TOS tho

I've never installed it for that reason

[hollow bronze]

discord claims that for legal reasons

but they don't punish anyone

if you self-botted for instance they may ban you, but thats not what betterdiscord is about and also doable by various other ways

equivalent of minecraft saying modding minecraft is against TOS or whatever, and them not doing anything against it.

[wet girder]

if you want to translate all of the code

[hollow bronze]

(so all of the work)

[barren shale]

first i would like to know how long is the code

[hollow bronze]

kek

[barren shale]

i dont want to say yes and then its 20000 lines

[wet girder]

too much

thousands

[hollow bronze]

I'd rather make a new bot than ever have to translate one

[barren shale]

how much is too much

[barren shale]

im not gonna translate it literally

but i still need the game logic

[hollow bronze]

lots of game logic

[barren shale]

@wet girder i need to see

[hollow bronze]

technically you don't need the code for logic

just play the game

kek

[wet girder]

I can invite you to the GitHub repo

[barren shale]

if im not doing it in C# ill still do it in TS

[wet girder]

just tell me your GitHub name

[barren shale]

HamzaNa1

please dont laugh at my code from 5 years ago

[hollow bronze]

shall I make another github for this

kek

[hoary hound]

looking back at my old code makes me cringe

which is good

because it means I'm better now

[wet girder]

yep

[wet girder]

invited ya

[barren shale]

so what do i do

xd

[hoary hound]

make bot work

[barren shale]

how do i accept the invite

[hoary hound]

ez

[wet girder]

there are issues I have made

[wet girder]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[hoary hound]

you should have received an email

[barren shale]

maybe

but i didnt

[hoary hound]

do you use a secondary email on github

check all of them

spam folder

[barren shale]

nothing

[hoary hound]

unfortunate

[wet girder]

after I've put everything to another bot. Atm it has the bot tokens that have quite many perms

[barren shale]

@wet girder u sure u invited me

[wet girder]

hmm

[barren shale]

im too good ?

[hoary hound]

hamza is just a collective hallucination

[barren shale]

@wet girder

https://github.com/HamzaNa1

here's my github

ask youtube

[hoary hound]

googling is a skill you need to learn berry

[barren shale]

INVIIIIIIIIIIIITEEE

[hoary hound]

essentials

[barren shale]

with google

you can learn a new language

in one day

[hoary hound]

the basics at least

[barren shale]

ANYTHING

[wet girder]

Github hates you it seems

[barren shale]

racism

[wet girder]

I have never had any problems with anyone else

[hoary hound]

too much C# in your repo

[wet girder]

do you have invites disabled or something?

[wet girder]

It's 100% JS

[barren shale]

i never knew they existed

[wet girder]

https://tenor.com/view/crying-emoji-dies-gif-21956120

[hoary hound]

lol I was talking about hamza

[barren shale]

wait

does my account need to be pro ?

[wet girder]

nope

[barren shale]

that's probably why

my account is flagged

so even if i use a vpn

doesnt work

[wet girder]

ah

that's sad

[hoary hound]

that sucks

[barren shale]

anyways making a new account for this

[wet girder]

lol

[hollow bronze]

all hail the vpn

[barren shale]

@wet girder

my new account

NotHamzaNa1

[hoary hound]

genious

[wet girder]

done

[barren shale]

got it

[hoary hound]

The second part of my programming course is java lmao

I hate java for some reason

I'd get c# over it every day

[wet girder]

Java is just bad version of C#

[barren shale]

java is a worse version C#

[barren shale]

this man knows

[hoary hound]

tbh I like OOP but java is just.. ugh

[barren shale]

@wet girder

so what do you need help in

[wet girder]

check the issues

I have most my ideas there

[barren shale]

and why firebase instead of mongodb

[wet girder]

mongodb sucks

[barren shale]

[wet girder]

and I don't want to set it up one old version of server debian

firebase easy

[barren shale]

firebase limited

to 50k reads

unless you gonna pay

[wet girder]

I don't need more

[barren shale]

u sure

[wet girder]

should be totally fine

[wet girder]

quite

[barren shale]

i kinda of want to C#

but

hmmm

jupe you know C# right ?

[hollow bronze]

trust me you dont want to convert all of that

[barren shale]

or do i

[hollow bronze]

you dont

[barren shale]

but what if i want

[hollow bronze]

then you're masochistic

[wet girder]

of course

[barren shale]

maybe

[barren shale]

you up for it ?

making this better ||(with C#)||

its gonna take like 1-2 weeks

but i think its worth it

[hollow bronze]

good luck with that

[wet girder]

we need to get the bot asap

[barren shale]

is it not working right now ?

[hollow bronze]

I'd recommend you just enable the bot for now before you go writing an entire new system

[wet girder]

I haven't setup mongodb on the vps

[barren shale]

doesnt it take like 5 seconds with docker ?

[barren shale]

i thought it was on

[hollow bronze]

even then, I'd weigh the options first

[wet girder]

I don't think the vps lets me do that too easily

[barren shale]

what os ?

[wet girder]

2 year old debian server

never done anything else on it other than hosting amp with discord.py

[barren shale]

https://docs.docker.com/engine/install/debian/

install docker

[wet girder]

it's none of these

[barren shale]

what is it then

[wet girder]

I don't remember. Gotta check when I am home

but it wasn't any of those

[barren shale]

ok so you have the data dumps from the old database ?

[wet girder]

it's in the GitHub

[barren shale]

ok ill convert them to json

and then we can try firebase

[wet girder]

we'd just need to change all the mongodb code to firebase code

idk how much that is ngl

[barren shale]

ill check it out

@wet girder do you know how i can read these dump files

[wet girder]

You have to either transformer them into json or use mongodb

[barren shale]

hmm

the cooldowns dump only have one thing in it

ok the users one is huge

10 mbs

nvm it has only one user

which is nikon

@wet girder

are you sure these are the right dumps

or is the online converter im using is bad

ill try another one

[wet girder]

That's what Nikon gave me

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[barren shale]

ill try using mongodb's converting tool

if that gives the same output then nikon fucked up

@wet girder they are the right ones

[wet girder]

good

[hoary hound]

I agree with igniz, you also have to take into account analyzing the current system, developing a new one that works good on C#, write it, debug, test, etc. It took nikon months to do everything

[hollow bronze]

also currently looking at c# version myself and woof is it brain numbing

probably because im used to the python version, but slowly making progress

only took 300 hours

and like 80 lines of code

not too bad actually, I just need to get in the habit of using async tasks more often

[next lotus]

what is

firebase

[orchid frigate]

A base

Thats on fire

[next lotus]

i made

a youtube downloader site

xD

[orchid frigate]

A site where you can download YouTube?

[next lotus]

it automatically finds the video/audio content in the webpage

and downloads it

it works on basically every website that has media

[orchid frigate]

Nice

[next lotus]

ofc its written i c# what else

[orchid frigate]

I have no idea how these sites work

[next lotus]

wanna see it

[orchid frigate]

Like how they find media

Sure but I wont understand anything

[barren shale]

yeah but nikon was making something new

[next lotus]

its currently hosted in my own pc

[barren shale]

we will copy

[next lotus]

194.233.71.142:80 put this in your webbrowser

[barren shale]

ez hacked

[orchid frigate]

I will make sure to scan your ports

[barren shale]

dont put this in your browser

[next lotus]

dw

i own

5 routers

[hoary hound]

Tf you doing with 5 routers

[next lotus]

for more ip addresses ofc

[barren shale]

that's not how it works

[next lotus]

nono

[barren shale]

you need multiple internet connections

[next lotus]

i own different internet plans each

yeah

[hoary hound]

Bruh

[barren shale]

yeah but you can just have on ip address

and use different ports

[hoary hound]

How much do you pay for that?

[barren shale]

[next lotus]

internet is cheap here each are on 10mbps

[orchid frigate]

Why tho

[next lotus]

10mbps is like 5$ a month lmao

[hoary hound]

So you pay 25 a month to get more ips?

[barren shale]

for no reason

what do you even need more ips for

[hoary hound]

Unless you are doing something shady

[next lotus]

our neighborhood is very close

[main brook]

my neighbor doesn't have wifi 💀

[barren shale]

still doesnt make sense

just vpn

[orchid frigate]

Im doing something shady but dont tell anyone

[next lotus]

so basically everyone doesnt really care if someone have their wifi password

[barren shale]

https://tenor.com/view/sneaky-bitch-old-elaine-stritch-shady-gif-17672515

[orchid frigate]

||I plant trees near my apartment to make shade||

[hoary hound]

Was trying to make sense out of it but there isn't much

[next lotus]

you cant really trust vpn

[barren shale]

a vpn is less than 25$ a month

[next lotus]

in the end the endpoint server's isp can pretty much steal see your traffic

[barren shale]

you can

[orchid frigate]

20$ = 40 bucks in my country so fuck vpns

[next lotus]

what's the point of using vpn if the services like reddit, google etc.etc. is still logging your info on their site

[barren shale]

use a safe browser

and a vpn

[next lotus]

if you want actual privacy you might just fake your identity

[orchid frigate]

Yea use tor

Duh

[next lotus]

ohyes safe browser == tor

lol

[barren shale]

tor is too slow

use librewolf

open source

[orchid frigate]

Fuck it

[barren shale]

firefox clone but with all the bad settings disabled

[orchid frigate]

Make your own

[next lotus]

i +9999999 this

i use tor everyday and just

[barren shale]

[next lotus]

its a hassle to turn javascript on and off

[hoary hound]

I just use duckduckgo

For stuff that I don't use Google for

[orchid frigate]

My man is more of a masochist than me

[next lotus]

and when javascript is on yuo'll have anxiety if the site can get your public ip via js

[barren shale]

i mean if you are going to use librewolf and a vpn you can just use google

and feed them false information

[next lotus]

and what's worse is that the servers are in fukin europe like dude i live in asia and i get like 3 times the latency

[orchid frigate]

So a few days ago I found out that rust has its own os development libraries

[next lotus]

rust in linux coming soon

[barren shale]

latency does not matter if you are not playing games

[orchid frigate]

So when I started using it my dev speed wnt into the clouds

Like I got double faults and interrupts working in a day

This took me a month in C

[barren shale]

https://tenor.com/view/your-mom-spy-tf2-team-fortress2-sheesh-gif-21838783

[orchid frigate]

So rust is officially very pog

[hoary hound]

So when are you releasing AmongOS

[orchid frigate]

With this dev speed

[barren shale]

AmongsOS

[orchid frigate]

In an year

[next lotus]

SussyOS

[barren shale]

https://tenor.com/view/doubt-intensifies-gif-14242619

[orchid frigate]

I just need to do...paging which isnt that hard, filesystems which will be a struggle and cmd

And I can count it as a working os

[orchid frigate]

Might be less than that

Really matters how fast I learn filesystems and partitioning and if rust can help me

[orchid frigate]

Bad phrasing

I already got a working os

Not a functional os

[hoary hound]

Filesystem?

[orchid frigate]

Its running so it is working

[hoary hound]

How low level do you want to go?

[orchid frigate]

Considering im making a os

Very very

Low level

I dont got a choice

I could use ext4 but I will need to learn it

Easier to make my own

[barren shale]

you think it is

until it isnt

[orchid frigate]

If I decide to implement ext4

I still need to code it

So I will need to learn it

[hoary hound]

The thing with making your own stuff is that can break easily

[orchid frigate]

And considering its probably very big its not worth it its better to design my own

Even the os dev wiki agrees

Ah fuck now I need to work on usb

This will be a struggle indeed

[orchid frigate]

@cloud solar if you wanna stream ping me as Im gonna be free all day

being sick sucks but atleast I have time for coding

[sturdy void]

My unreal engine in stuck at %67

[main brook]

L

[orchid frigate]

L

[main brook]

big L

[orchid frigate]

L

[cloud solar]

L

[hoary hound]

Γ

[barren shale]

ل

[cloud solar]

דּ

[orchid frigate]

🇱

[woven nebula]

F

[split snow]

J

[storm marsh]

UwU

[echo oyster]

لـ

[wet girder]

w3schools

[errant trail]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/395646588682240020/953615017712975902/858106422511665162.gif

with great power comes with a great responsibility

wow spiderman reference

stack overflow but not stack overflow

search it

its like a documentation for all programming language

[barren shale]

@knotty root youtube

bestest

[main brook]

its

a www

school

for mostly about programming

[barren shale]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gfkTfcpWqAY

start with this

[orchid frigate]

sure

is it on github

@knotty root

no I meant is the project on github

ok how do I see it

brb

im back

link to where

ok im waiting

[next lotus]

microsoft docs

i dont learn everything right away

all i do is when i encounter a problem or if i dont know something

i google it

[orchid frigate]

noone does

everyone googles

programming is wayyy too huge for one to know everything

and considering pretty much everything is on the internet why know everything in the first place

@knotty root You did the github stuff yet?

ok whats your github

put a link it will be easier for both of us

Last time I tried to search someones github I found some strange nsfw projects and some awful code

why

why is it in a zip file

to this day I have no idea what get; set; does

or why it exists

[hasty bane]

[orchid frigate]

I dont do c# okay

And yes I know it gets and sets but gets from where and sets....to the var???

this reminds me I havent put anything on github in a long time

I should do that

@knotty root wanna check my github out?

ok

I will run it later when I get a way to run c#

but I like the codes they seem clean

But I have no idea what clean means in c# so idk

I have so many projects and most of them are old and really bad so bare that in mind
https://github.com/IHaydot

Good luck stealing it

running them requires about 20 minutes of work to set up a building env

each

im pretty sure I have a guide on how to do it on some

but I might have not pushed it to github

os dev when? @knotty root

you said you would but you didnt

well be faster

I want to not be the only one in this chat 😔

feels lonely

@barren shale check out his github

give your educated opinion

[errant trail]

yes

[hasty bane]

i havent seen a good example of get/set use yet but

they're interesting

[orchid frigate]

Keyboard interrupts go brrrr

dont mind reality breaking in some parts

[wet girder]

on what?

[native lynx]

Hi

I have a suggestion

Mods for phone

By

*bye

[wet girder]

What project?

[wet girder]

The zip file?

[hoary hound]

man this sucks

oh nvm there's triple quote

even better

[wet girder]

I can't check it right now. I'm in the bus going home

[barren shale]

yes very nice

[barren shale]

bro

what

public = property
private = field

stick to this

[hasty bane]

aight

[hoary hound]

iirc the point of getters and setters is to have more control when an instance's properties get modified/read, like you can add checks before changing the actual value of the property, for example

at least that's what I remember from 3 years ago

anyway I fucked up my python environment by uninstalling every pip package

today is a good day

what project

you named your repo the same as your username

huh

[wet girder]

I can't get the project working on visual studio 2022

[hoary hound]

I just opened it in vs code lol

anyway

First thing I see is that you used abstract to define some Item class methods

and then you override them for the various weapons

but if they are the same for every single weapon, there isn't really a need to do so

for example Equip()

Unless you want to make it different for every single weapon, you should just make it a normal method in Item, then make all the weapons inherit from Item

Info() makes sense since it's different for every weapon

[barren shale]

wait

did he upload the project

in a zip file

[hoary hound]

[barren shale]

[hoary hound]

[cloud solar]

can someone help me with cmd console in dms?

nvm, fixed now

[spiral sonnet]

Why is this not working

That code in the red circle

(It's a simple problem isn't it?)

[spiral sonnet]

Here's what happens

It was supposed to display that message when energy is 0

But it doesn't

[spiral sonnet]

Here is the code

[hollow bronze]

the last message?

I guess you mean the "You've arrived at the junkyard"

= 0 means it will do that code if its 0 or greater

since its 0, it'll tell you that

need to replace >= 0 to > 0

that said you're subtracting 20 from the energy so shouldn't you have "20" energy as the minimum

energy >= 20

depends on whether you want negative energy or not, but that's just up to you

[spiral sonnet]

I don't want negative energy

Oh

I understand it's all becoming clear to me now

Thanks

It feels great when a problem is solved

Dayum it gonna be real big

I gonna have to spam random.randint to get that work

It would be good if there were any other ideas

[orchid frigate]

If statements in python are so...wordy

Like i instead of && you have and

Also no brackets which looks confusing af to me

[hoary hound]

Lua does the same

[orchid frigate]

Rust is also able to do that

But I cant get used to it

I still use symbols even when I can change them

[orchid frigate]

@barren shale hi

[barren shale]

who

[orchid frigate]

Me saying hello to you

:)

[cloud solar]

hello

[orchid frigate]

Hi

Stream?

:)))

[barren shale]

https://tenor.com/view/your-mother-great-argument-however-megamind-your-mom-yo-mama-gif-22994712

[orchid frigate]

Please say hi to my mom

:)))))(

[barren shale]

im getting a new laptop next month

with an rtx 3060

gonna fry it on some ai stuff

:)

[orchid frigate]

Ai stuff?

You dont get a 3060 for ai stuff

[hollow bronze]

the tradeoff is that its more understandable

[barren shale]

yes you do unless you want a 3090

[orchid frigate]

You get it to use insane Minecraft shaders

[hollow bronze]

at least it was when I was learning programming

[barren shale]

and that i guess

[hollow bronze]

you uh need lots of vram for ai stuff

[orchid frigate]

Or insane gta shaders

Or insane shaders

[barren shale]

it has 6 gbs

[hollow bronze]

yeah the 3060 gaming moment is mostly for gaming

[barren shale]

and i do RL mostly so i just want the tensor cores

[hollow bronze]

need like loads of vram for the decent ai models

[barren shale]

yeah but i cant afford a 3090

so i got to do with this

its still better than running on cpu

[hollow bronze]

well a single 3090 wouldnt help either

[barren shale]

it depends

RL stuff

[hollow bronze]

you can do some of the lower to maybe some mid models probably

[barren shale]

dont really need a lot of vram

[barren shale]

i mean its a laptop

[hollow bronze]

vram issue goes down over time as they optimize

[barren shale]

its not gonna be the best

but its better than a CPU

[hollow bronze]

but I know for like text gen stuff a handful of the models were just better off ran from collab since I dont have 16 gb of vram laying around

[barren shale]

my current laptop has a 1050 with a fried power delivery ic

which makes it a laptop without a gpu

i dont do these text gen stuff

i just make RL agent and let it play snek

i like watching it

:)

[hollow bronze]

why are you laptop gaming instead of pc

[barren shale]

because in syria

electricity

bad

also i need a laptop for university

[hollow bronze]

probably could say that about a few things

in syria

[barren shale]

few more like every

[hollow bronze]

kek

[barren shale]

like dogs sitting barking behind the wall of my room

all night

[orchid frigate]

Sounds very comforting

I bet you get good sleep

[barren shale]

yes until i wake up at 3 am because israel wanna bomb us at night

just bomb us in the morning

[orchid frigate]

Well call israel

[hollow bronze]

migrate elsewhere probably

[orchid frigate]

And tell them "no you dont bomb us >:("

[barren shale]

im probably gonna move to the uk after i finish university

i have a cousin there

ill go get a masters degree in ai

and then sleep all day long until i die

[hollow bronze]

well the weather is usually rainy in the uk

good for sleeping

opportunities for education for sure

[orchid frigate]

The uk more like

The uk

I couldnt think of a joke

[barren shale]

my reasons are english and i have a cousin there

[hollow bronze]

english

[barren shale]

yeah

[hollow bronze]

isn't that a little of everywhere

[barren shale]

us and canada are too far

and i dont have relatives there

australia is too scary

so i think the uk

[hollow bronze]

I feel like europeans know english

[barren shale]

yeah but im not gonna live in germany speaking english

[hollow bronze]

probably not

speak Arabic im sure they'll get you

[orchid frigate]

Why are you scared of kangaroos?

[barren shale]

yes and koalas

[barren shale]

germany is like 20% arabs now

[hollow bronze]

australia and new zealand are nice, but import prices of like tech stuff is more expensive

[barren shale]

that makes it a no for me

thats a deal breaker ngl

[hollow bronze]

kek its not like 3x the price, its like 500 vs 700 usd

[barren shale]

what do you mean i have to pay 50$ dollars for my 1100$ graphics card

in syria

every car is taxed 300%

[hollow bronze]

graphics cards cost way too much everywhere atm

[barren shale]

for some reasons

[barren shale]

going down tho

[hollow bronze]

thankfully

[barren shale]

doesnt matter

laptop gang

[hollow bronze]

here you can buy hunks of junk for like 5 thousand dollars

[barren shale]

what

[hollow bronze]

it may barely run

but it does run

[orchid frigate]

I wish I had a laptop

[hollow bronze]

its around 20-30k for a brand new vehicle if you dont add anything

[orchid frigate]

computers are nice but being able to move everything anywhere would be amazing

[hollow bronze]

I dont go anywhere

therefore I dont need much more than a crappy laptop

for when I do go somewhere

I've never had a practical purpose for a laptop

[orchid frigate]

I have a nice enough pc that can run pretty much anything at lower graphics but

no games

like I cant find good games

[hollow bronze]

then get a mid tier pc

oh games

theres lots of games

even more if you pirate tm (this is sponsored)

[orchid frigate]

I can buy games and I have many games but all of them dont require what I have

[wet girder]

I paid 400€ for my pc and my pc can run any game minimum of 30 fps so I'm happy with it

[orchid frigate]

And the new games are shit

[hollow bronze]

too high end for you?

[orchid frigate]

like awful

[hollow bronze]

if its too much graphics just get a mid tier pc

they're not expensive

[orchid frigate]

Im not that high end im mid tier just the games nowadays are really bad

[hollow bronze]

having a moderately decent build is so nice

[hollow bronze]

even if you dont like new games, there are like decades worth of games

[hoary hound]

play streets of rogue

cool game

cody told me about it

[orchid frigate]

every company is trying to milk every penny from the consumers and delivering nothing in return

[wet girder]

my school gave me a laptop and it's quite nice to do some computer stuff anywhere you go so I'm not complaining about having it. I rarely use it but when I do, it's useful af

[hollow bronze]

he doesnt ever shut up about it

[hoary hound]

lmao

I know he did some modding stuff there too

[hollow bronze]

we have a dedicated one here too, but its just for projects and work when I need to do them and nothing more

[orchid frigate]

anyway so I have been using the same linux distro for a full month

time to change

[hollow bronze]

dont buy the garbage then lmao, there are tons and tons and tons of amazing games

[orchid frigate]

True true

[hollow bronze]

I've been playing loads of elden ring and its a large enough company, absolutely love it

[hoary hound]

I don't even know what the last AAA game I bought was

I'm all for indie games

[wet girder]

The rules for my laptop are that before I leave my school the laptop is primarily for school stuff so it needs to always be ready for school stuff and always connected to schools network

besides that we can do whatever we want

[hollow bronze]

the quality of a game is how good it is regardless of who sells it

[orchid frigate]

linux mint was cool but it is honestly boring af to use to the point I no longer wanna use it

[wet girder]

I play few bigger games and then mostly indid

[orchid frigate]

so im going to linux bare bones 😳

[hoary hound]

kinda same yeah

[orchid frigate]

The only games I play actively rn are

gta online and geometry dash

and maybe for honor if im extra bored

[hollow bronze]

https://tenor.com/view/linux-kali-linux-arch-linux-arch-girl-gif-24642405

[hoary hound]

linux users memes are hilarious

[wet girder]

I bought the bundle for ukraine thing from itch.io and me and my friends have fallen in love with just testing random games from it because you never know what you find and they're surprisingly good

[orchid frigate]

Why do I feel so offended by this wtf

I dont get offended by anything on the internet but this meme

[wet girder]

I play LoL, Minecraft vanilla and modded and a lot of smaller games I've gotten for free or from some bundle

oh yeah also csgo

[orchid frigate]

is going to make me write an essay why its wrong

[hoary hound]

ngl since I finished Omori I've only been playing streets of rogue

still looking for a new game

[hollow bronze]

twitter users

[orchid frigate]

I think your opinion is wrong because you are an awful human being and I hate you
-twitter user

[hollow bronze]

love when twitter users argue about nothing to solve nothing

purely to be angry and nothing more

[hoary hound]

you wish twitter users were that tame

[hollow bronze]

everytime I log in they're complaining about a non-issue (or an issue that they made up) and then fighting other users about it

[hoary hound]

twitter users on their way to write a 30 long tweet chain about their opinion just for joemama11 to reply with L + ratio

[orchid frigate]

"here is why this random person caused world hunger:

1. They said Im annoying (im not)
2. uses racial slur"

[forest meadow]

damn u guys seriously dislike twitter users

[orchid frigate]

noone likes twitter users

[hollow bronze]

twitter users dont like twitter users

what do you expect

[orchid frigate]

twitter users dont like twitter users

[hoary hound]

the internet generally doesn't like itself

[forest meadow]

facts

[orchid frigate]

anyway this chat

has gone

offtopic af

[hollow bronze]

twitter is a social media

social media are backed by code

[hoary hound]

https://tenor.com/view/how-did-we-get-here-team-aps-yu-gi-oh-how-did-we-come-to-this-how-did-we-get-to-this-point-gif-17830184

[hollow bronze]

twitter has some cool bots

I recommend following random twitter bots that generate stuff they're funny

the only reason I use twitter is for that

[orchid frigate]

I recommend uninstalling twitter for -200 depression

[hollow bronze]

who installs twitter

its a web page

[orchid frigate]

I install everything

[hollow bronze]

you're a linux user

you get no say

[orchid frigate]

I hate using the internet for social media

[hoary hound]

you are on social media

[hollow bronze]

so you hate social media

[hoary hound]

right now

[orchid frigate]

I mean

[hollow bronze]

because its all on the net

[orchid frigate]

OK let me rephrase

that was badly said

I hate using browsers for social media

thats better

[hollow bronze]

why

[orchid frigate]

its so annoying I have to click more than two times

[hollow bronze]

I used discord's application my pc for a while but at this point its nicer to be a webpage

[orchid frigate]

and sometimes write letters to enter its awful

[hollow bronze]

I also dont get notifs for discord if its on a webpage

so its less addictive

[orchid frigate]

even on linux where downloading discord requires commands I download it

[hoary hound]

that's a good point

[hollow bronze]

speaking of which i need to stop discording for now goodbye

[hoary hound]

I have to manually close discord to avoid being continously distracted by pings

[orchid frigate]

I dont get scared about getting addicted to discord

I usually have to force myself to get on here

[hoary hound]

you talk here a lot though

[orchid frigate]

Yes because writing code alone is boring af

[hollow bronze]

its usually when I get pinged 2 or 3 times when im doing something else, I'd use to go and check it out

now I pop on when I want and read through pings

https://tenor.com/view/jerma-goodbye-chat-goodbye-chat-window-gif-22797273

[orchid frigate]

I would rather talk to people why I code than talk to noone when I code even if its considered less productive

[hoary hound]

https://tenor.com/view/goodbye-chat-gif-23677448

[orchid frigate]

anyways cya

aw fuck I just learned I have to use efi if I wanna do anything productive

aka the buggiest thing I have ever witnessed

UEFI is great unless you are the programmer using it

[north dune]

have you heard about streets of rogue

[orchid frigate]

@north dune Have you heard about this cool game named streets of rogue?

Im personally a malbolge fan myself

Malbolge coder if you will

[north dune]

theres a sequel coming

[orchid frigate]

I have no idea what this game is or what is is about

But gaming 👍

[errant trail]

+[-]

[spiral sonnet]

Dude what

Brainf**k >>>>+++

[ashen slate]

Bro and like 1101010010010101 yea

#code

[spiral sonnet]

That's not brainf**k

[spiral sonnet]

UNCODER IN #⌨coders-cave ATTACK!

[lusty bison]

Harder

[sterile ore]

I know code like 10101101010

[hoary hound]

Yess and it sounds awesome

[cloud solar]

pygame couse why not:

import pygame
pygame.init()
SCREENWIDTH = 800
SCREENHEIGHT = 600

screen = pygame.display.set_mode([SCREENWIDTH,SCREENHEIGHT])
clock = pygame.time.Clock()

GameWorking = True
while GameWorking:
    for event in pygame.event.get():
        if event.type == pygame.KEYDOWN:
            if event.key == pygame.K_ESCAPE:
                GameWorking = False
        elif event.type == pygame.QUIT:
            GameWorking = False

dont thank me, ik that u needed it

[orchid frigate]

Pygame be like:

[errant trail]

ah yes the pygame that makes you do the correct thing when entering a pygame: quit

[cloud solar]

Pygame is such troll that it doesnt allow u to quit it without programming it

[cloud solar]

i have an error in unity(using MLAgents library for making ai) and i get this error on cmd console:

D:\Unity\Projects\MachineLearning\venv\lib\site-packages\mlagents\trainers\torch\networks.py:91: UserWarning: Creating a tensor from a list of numpy.ndarrays is extremely slow. Please consider converting the list to a single numpy.ndarray with numpy.array() before converting to a tensor. (Triggered internally at  C:\actions-runner\_work\pytorch\pytorch\builder\windows\pytorch\torch\csrc\utils\tensor_new.cpp:210.)
  enc.update_normalization(torch.as_tensor(vec_input))

even if u dont program in unity maybe by accident u know how to fix it?

[glad relic]

How do u enter a code so it changes the gameplay on your device

[cloud solar]

its not that easy

[orchid frigate]

Technically it is kinda

You can edit the executable

But thats not what he meant definitely

[cloud solar]

ye propably

[orchid frigate]

@cloud solar wanna stream?

[cloud solar]

i think today nah... maybe tomorrow... i have too much homework tho

it is 23 in my country

and my parents will commit French revolution if i wont go to sleep

[orchid frigate]

ok cya tomorrow then

have a good night

[main brook]

just

ctrl+c

on the terminal

unless you're handling KeyboardInterrupt

[errant trail]

or not use pygame

[main brook]

pygame is good for small-medium

so

no

:D

[summer snow]

Hello. May I ask you a question about the Python programming language?

I'm creating a discord bot but I'm getting an error

[barren shale]

Very useful for structuring

You can always make everything public but then your code would look very bad

Expanding would be really hard

And you won’t get a job

[barren shale]

When you want to use a field or a method only inside the class

Private means it can be accessed only from the class

Hard to explain on phone

[main brook]

yes

but first

how long have you been on python