⌨coders-cave

[next lotus]

then it's useless why would it return infinity, the function is supposed to return the maximum of the parameters but returns Infinity when no arguments? cant it just throw an ArgumentException or something pretty bad design

or maybe just return null lmao

[barren shale]

false information

[hasty bane]

i mean if its math max it returns the maximum value of... math?

[next lotus]

oh in that case create a huge number so huge it will throw an overflow that's makes more sense

[main brook]

which is why infinity is a thing

the largest number in math is probably

a big infinity

since all infinity aren't the same

[next lotus]

throwing an overflow sounds more natural

[main brook]

eh-

[hasty bane]

sounds more natural

really

[next lotus]

bruh, there's 0 parameters

no exceptions lol

[main brook]

and yet we have 1

right here

right now

also

[next lotus]

wait let me reword that

[main brook]

throwing an exception for max number in a math

is kinda

eh

[next lotus]

dude no we're not throwing exception for max

we're throwing exception for no arguments at all kinda weird

[main brook]

well i mean it make sense to me

how many times will you breathe in your life

[next lotus]

Math.min(/*we expect an array or numbers or something*/) and you're returning with infinity if nothing is in it?

[main brook]

undefined until you die

[next lotus]

id return null so i can check if something wrong did happen

[main brook]

no

it'll be

NaN

not a number

[main brook]

well it doesn't and its by design

[next lotus]

alright ill let this one slip in

[main brook]

smh

usually for number related shit its either relative to the computer or actual math

but eh im not a mathematician

[next lotus]

yeah i get it now Math.min returns the minimum of actuall math

but

why js have null and undefined

[hasty bane]

cuz js bad
yeah i dont actually know

[next lotus]

js is ass to null check

[hasty bane]

it's always been

super weird 4 me

[wet girder]

Js is odd

[hasty bane]

exactly

[wet girder]

it's decent but odd

[hasty bane]

which is why i kinda want to

use as little of it as possible

[main brook]

undefined = something that never existed
null = something that exists but empty

its like having a toilet paper

[next lotus]

var nulledVar = null; // this one is null what```

[main brook]

its either only the cardboard

or no cardboard at all

[next lotus]

imagine null checking

lol

[wet girder]

OH GOSH, VAR

[main brook]

undefined literally means something that doesn't exist

[hasty bane]

i can see undefined being useful... maybe
in cases where you have to check if X was created

[main brook]

ehe well you can just directly === null

[next lotus]

i think its let but only touched js once on a school project xD

[hasty bane]

and where you dont care if its null or not

[main brook]

var sucks

[main brook]

there's lua

who fuck up

on that

[hasty bane]

LUA

NO

banned

[wet girder]

var is the old js way (I think). let and const are what you're supposed to use

[main brook]

null is both undefined and empty value

so you can't check if an object has an attribute

[hasty bane]

https://tenor.com/view/disintegrate-gif-22469816

[main brook]

or the attribute is null

[next lotus]

ah yes the cheat engine language lol

[hasty bane]

the roblos language

horrible

[wet girder]

lua is awful

[next lotus]

also adobe script language

[main brook]

roblox uses Luau

a superset of lua

[hasty bane]

why did they even go with lua or luau

[main brook]

because

easy

[next lotus]

scripting languages are just awful in general

[hasty bane]

smh

[main brook]

they actually want to use C#

[hasty bane]

oh right they

[main brook]

but idk they ditched it

[hasty bane]

exploit child developers
LOL

[main brook]

but js is scripting language

[hasty bane]

scripting language is good

[next lotus]

i still have no idea how js got into server development and how node.js worked

[hasty bane]

js used to be frontend i believe

so someone went

HMM why not make it backend too

[main brook]

node.js basically

runs javascript on your system

[wet girder]

node.js is not fun

[main brook]

not a sandbox browser environment

[wet girder]

php better

[next lotus]

and now here we are talking in an app made in js for some reason

[next lotus]

oh boy

[hasty bane]

rei what's your opinion on node/express vs fastapi

[main brook]

php sucks imo

they're mainly for

[next lotus]

PHP

[main brook]

web

[next lotus]

just

[hasty bane]

php is pain

[next lotus]

i cant even explain

[main brook]

express are outdated

[wet girder]

exactly. It's just for web and so is JS imo

[hasty bane]

interesting

[main brook]

they don't support async function natively too

[next lotus]

i hate php with pure burning passion

[hasty bane]

o

[main brook]

and also

[hasty bane]

WUT

[main brook]

fastapi is good

[hasty bane]

does express just

[main brook]

in some way

[hasty bane]

block every time you do smth

lmao

[main brook]

no

it does the promise

behind the scene

but it doesn't control your route

[hasty bane]

hmm

[main brook]

if you use a promise

so if something fucked up

you won't know

[hasty bane]

wow that's terrible

[main brook]

ikr

also fastapi is good kinda

although i don't like then using Pydantic for the data

[hasty bane]

any python framework that's better?

[main brook]

if you want you can use django

[hasty bane]

pls no
not a fan of django

[main brook]

it has both wsgi and asgi support

oh oki

[hasty bane]

yeah it's kinda

weird

[main brook]

there's like

flask for micro app

[hasty bane]

im thinking something inbetween

[main brook]

maybe sanic?

either way they all don't matter that much but still play a big role

what's important is which program are you gonna use to run it

[hasty bane]

as in?

[main brook]

like there's uvicorn, gunicorn

[hasty bane]

oh

which one do you think is better
i've been using uvicorn so far

[main brook]

i use gunicorn with uvicorn worker

for production

[hasty bane]

hmm

why?

[main brook]

because

you can actually control how many workers your app runs at

on runtime

with gunicorn

you can scale it on the go

[hasty bane]

oo

thats pretty neat

[main brook]

yea

also i don't hate express

i just dislike its design

there's other newer framework

like nest.js

most js framework are for frontend app nowadays

like angular, svelte, vue, react

i usually combine both

backend and frontend

with nginx

and proxy

[hasty bane]

react is interesting

i've looked into a python alternative but

[main brook]

i have my backend with multiple framework

[hasty bane]

No

only thing i rly saw is IDOM and that looks

as raw as it gets

[main brook]

there's also

[hasty bane]

and just not good

[main brook]

unicorn

made by the django team

its python but frontend

[hasty bane]

ooh

so

wait

[barren shale]

most framework have both backend and frontend dude

[hasty bane]

does it have the Cool React Real-Time Updating And Other Neat Stuff

[main brook]

probably?

[hasty bane]

hmm

[main brook]

not sure never used it

its probably still in beta

[hasty bane]

ik that

[barren shale]

if you wanna die use nextjs

if you wanna live use sveltekit

[main brook]

i like to use svelte

i can basically make shit tons

using svelte

its so useful

[barren shale]

yeah svelte is so much better than react their shit

[hasty bane]

noted

[main brook]

the only thing bugging me is the

onMount

[barren shale]

what's with it

[main brook]

for stuff like Websocket connection

those goes into onMount

so any browser related stuff

it goes in onMount

[hasty bane]

so i should try doing fastapi with svelte

[main brook]

if you have a function that binds with the DOM

that function runs on the browser environment

instead of the render environment

[main brook]

you could

[barren shale]

sveltekit

[main brook]

i have one in my storage

[barren shale]

has all the api fuckery

svelte is only frontend

[main brook]

also

use svektekit

sveltekit*

its svelte but on crack

and it support multiple routes

[hasty bane]

gotcha

[barren shale]

its basically svelte but with backend

[main brook]

even better you can build your Svelte app into a static app

so its literally gonna be just files

no server

[barren shale]

that's what frontend only means

[main brook]

with the magic of "adapters"

usually Svelte app runs on a server

cause server rendering

and stuff

[barren shale]

yeah if ur using sveltekit

[main brook]

time to sleep

[undone coyote]

u sure there is sleep for a coder

u SURE?

cause i call

[slim vapor]

Will you guys make Mods for mobile

[cloud solar]

its that hard its almost impossible

i mean in some cases

[slim vapor]

Ok

You guys could atleast try

[next lotus]

not impossible but very hard, in pc bepinex literally make you modify the game as if you have the project file

in mobile unless you do memory and reverse engineer you can but hard

and takes too much time

[orchid frigate]

Every time you guys say js I cant stop thinking about the assembly instruction

And I get flashbacks from when i had an error because I put js and not jz

That took me 3 days to fix

[hollow bronze]

not the correct channel for this

please read the topic

[hasty bane]

it's always like this

literally needs a captcha

[hollow bronze]

we could ban worldbox and sentences that contain mod and mobile together

for lower levels

[compact pike]

Hi

WHAT

@hollow bronze THE FUCK

[wet girder]

lmao

[compact pike]

The what

[hollow bronze]

add to bot plz

[compact pike]

Ayo wft

@hollow bronze

[wet girder]

would make sense

[hollow bronze]

everytime I use this channel and see a worldbox thing I lose a braincell

[wet girder]

@compact pike don't flood

[compact pike]

Ok

[hasty bane]

this

[compact pike]

Sry

[slim vapor]

Most of the world box players are on mobile

[compact pike]

Yes

[hollow bronze]

NEWS FLASH, THIS CHANNEL ISNT FOR WORLDBOX OR WORLDBOX MODDING

is that clear enough

[wet girder]

I'm just gonna do it. I doubt anyone's gonna get mad at me as this channel already is kinda under my ruling lol

[compact pike]

Its Not Mistake🎇ITS A MASTERPIECE🎇

Jelly Bean

[hasty bane]

not only is it under your ruling but
literally everyone doesn't like random rebrs coming in with wb mod suggestions

[slim vapor]

Jelly bean

[hollow bronze]

I would recommend finding chat messages previously sent to make sure you cover the basis

[compact pike]

@slim vapor ayo

[hasty bane]

I think just locking this for people under a certain rank could work too tbh, would be a lot less effort too
unless there are people who join servers just to see if they have coding channels

[compact pike]

[hollow bronze]

eh

just level restrict those words

[compact pike]

[hollow bronze]

problem solved

but it doesn't stop people from spamming

[compact pike]

[hollow bronze]

like they are now

[hasty bane]

eh that's a normal moderator problem

[hollow bronze]

true

[hasty bane]

they'll handle it :)

[compact pike]

You Guys Are

[hollow bronze]

better than people posting the same thing over and over

[compact pike]

Me?

[hollow bronze]

less annoying when its just random gibberish than when its the same question 178 times

[compact pike]

Its Me?

I'm The Problem Here?

[hasty bane]

might want to add something that tells people to check topic or w/e, otherwise people might get confused and start trying to bypass

[hollow bronze]

Im thinking mobile + mod when both in a sentence, and worldbox when in a sentence and that'll probably cover most cases

[compact pike]

[hollow bronze]

and yeah needs to message them

not that some of them are able to read

[hasty bane]

lmao

[compact pike]

Hey

...

World Box...

[hollow bronze]

if you don't have anything coding related to say move to #🌎general

[compact pike]

Oh I Have Coding Ideas

Can I say then?

Here?

[hollow bronze]

only if they're not worldbox related

[wet girder]

https://tenor.com/view/sad-face-cute-oh-god-gif-13312360

[compact pike]

Then coding what

[hollow bronze]

in general, now off you go

[wet girder]

he got kicked

[hollow bronze]

good riddance

[hasty bane]

kek

[wet girder]

completely unrelated kick but still got kicked

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[hasty bane]

oh wow scam link

[hollow bronze]

judging by scam links he's probably hacked

kids ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[hasty bane]

yep

I wonder how many people on the server are underage

[hollow bronze]

should wonder how many people here are age

[wet girder]

probably should be asked the other way around lol

[hollow bronze]

coders-cave is less that at least

[hasty bane]

at first i thought that was a bit of a pessimistic take but yeah you're probably right

[hollow bronze]

not a lot of young people inherently code

[wet girder]

fair

[wet girder]

Surprisingly lot do tho. Atleast in Finland

[hollow bronze]

I mean like under 14

[austere ore]

thats some sus phrasing

[hollow bronze]

or under 15

in general

not country specific

[wet girder]

in general probably true

[hasty bane]

i started coding when i was 14

[wet girder]

idk really

[austere ore]

93% of people in general

[hasty bane]

around 14,5

[wet girder]

I started coding when I was like 7 or 8

[hasty bane]

nice

[hollow bronze]

I programmed from the womb

[hasty bane]

i tried since i was maybe 12

but didn't get into it

[hollow bronze]

I programmed since I was 16

later than the initial hobby things you pursue as you start exploring

I did music first

[hoary hound]

I don't remember to be honest, but must've been around 15

[hollow bronze]

I also enjoyed writing

but music was what I did from like 12-15

or rather instrument playing

[hasty bane]

music is pretty cool but also kinda difficult imo

[hollow bronze]

art in general

[hasty bane]

ye

[hollow bronze]

no direct defined way of doing it, guidelines yes

[hoary hound]

Recently I've been thinking if I should find other hobbies

I mean, I really like programming, but that's all I do

[hollow bronze]

you can be like me and have lots of hobbies and be bad at all of them

kek

[austere ore]

instead of programming you could try coding

[hollow bronze]

the point is fun so eh

[austere ore]

its programming, but a shorter word

[wet girder]

I have enough hobbies. Firefighting or well trainings, programming which is becoming more of a work than hobby and video gaming is more than enough for me

or well I do other computer stuff as well

[hoary hound]

Hobbies aren't generally competitive (unless you make them so) so having fun doing them is the most important thing

[hasty bane]

im really interested in like

hardware

i just remembered we still have the old 1gb ram desktop

[hollow bronze]

Yeah, depends where you wonder and what you do though

[hasty bane]

no one is gonna use that so i think i could do stuff with it

[hoary hound]

By what I'm doing, I know I will turn programming into my job, and then I will be left with nothing else, so I'm thinking about getting new hobbies

[hollow bronze]

eh

no min or max on hobbies

exploring is good though

[wet girder]

hardware is intresting but I love software way too much. Lower level I go the more I like it

[hollow bronze]

good idea to major in comp sci then

[hasty bane]

low level is interesting but HARD

[hollow bronze]

I hate low level

[hasty bane]

comp sci is mmm

idk

[hoary hound]

Same except I don't like low level

[hollow bronze]

comp sci is very in depth like that

[hasty bane]

from what I've seen here

[hollow bronze]

I have a friend that's currently do shader coding by hand

[wet girder]

that's kinda fair enough. I just personally feel like I've tried everything I really want to so I feel happy with what I have

[hollow bronze]

for one of his beginner classes into compi sci

[hasty bane]

most of the education in uni regarding comp sci is just

Math and How To Use

[hollow bronze]

I also despise math

it doesnt function in my head

[hoary hound]

Ha ha

[hasty bane]

aforementioned math

[hollow bronze]

so yeah I didnt go for comp sci lul

[hoary hound]

Math is all I've seen in the past months

[wet girder]

I study in vocational school software development so idk how many options I'll have after this lol

[hoary hound]

And I frickin hate it

[hollow bronze]

college algebra is as hard as I'll do

[hasty bane]

bonus point for pun

but for me algebra is nice
fuck geometry though

that stuff is terrible

[wet girder]

I love math, math is just so damn fun. School just makes it interesting if the teacher isn't really really good

[hasty bane]

go do data science xddd

[hoary hound]

I miss the "fun" part in math

[hollow bronze]

nope, even a good teacher can teach me math I still won't process it like I do other things

[wet girder]

data science sucks. It's mostly statistics and it's not that intresting. It feels like after you've learn it there isn't much left to learn in the field

[hollow bronze]

something inately in my head

[hasty bane]

stats is bad

hate it

[wet girder]

That's fair enough, math is something some people get and some just don't for whatever reason

[hollow bronze]

I am excellent at science (when it removes the math), history, english writing/reading, and about any other subject than math lul

[wet girder]

There's probably something cool behind it

[hasty bane]

I can do math

like

not bad at it

But learning the theorems in geometry and all that?

Get out

[wet girder]

I'm stupidly bad at calculating but good at harder math

it's funny really

[hollow bronze]

which is why I really didn't like the idea of doing college classes jammed with loads of math

since the only bachelors in coding had like nonstop them (in my area)

[hoary hound]

I 100% agree with this

[wet girder]

I ger like 6 or 7 from the "easy" calculation tests and always 10 from hard math exams

[hoary hound]

I guess that's kinda what I'm doing right now lol

[hollow bronze]

more recent on the mind

[wet girder]

we had a whole course on basic calculation and I almost failed it lmao

[hollow bronze]

My math teachers were better than everyone in the class simply because they remember basic stuff like long division and adding much faster than we could

[hasty bane]

my math teacher used to be a uni math prof

[wet girder]

they've just done it so damn much it's stuck in their heads

[hasty bane]

she's a math demon

literally solves everything instantly

it's mental

[hollow bronze]

my math teachers had been like 20+ years of math teaching

I think I got 1 off day per math class every year

[hoary hound]

I never really hated math tbh, it's just that I've been filled with nothing but math for half a year... It's hard. At least in high school we had other subjects that would break the monotony, now it's all. fucking. math

[hollow bronze]

work on work

[wet girder]

My math teacher in lower secondary school had 30 years of experience as math and science teacher and like 6 years of school experience in a school about mostly math and teaching so he was good at it

really good

[hollow bronze]

our teachers were wizards, we just didn't have time to learn nor the appropriate guidelines to do so

[wet girder]

We had time in lower secondary. Not in high school tho

[hollow bronze]

it was basically cram and forget

[wet girder]

high school classes suck

80mins of pure pain

[hasty bane]

hs is just prepare for exam

[wet girder]

per class

[hollow bronze]

heh we had 90

you bet i was staring at the clock on the wall

[hasty bane]

Oh hell yeah dude

clock my beloved

[hollow bronze]

these days I just have to turn in things by the end of the week on midnight and that's literally all I do

college way easier on time

kek

[hasty bane]

i literally have time strats for getting through the day

[hollow bronze]

speedrunning irl

[wet girder]

Well I'm doing high school and software development vocational school so it's even harder but the classes in high school teach literally nothing and are boring af so I just play video games when the teacher is just talking

because everything is in the internet nowadays so we're allowed to have laptops in class

or well required

our books are also in the internet

which sucks

[hollow bronze]

we didnt have laptops in class

I have piles of math work on paper

and english work

[hoary hound]

Same, I think I threw it all away in some box somewhere in the house

[hollow bronze]

yeah our "Tech" classes sucked

[wet girder]

Thankfully I have tech stuff in vocational school where actual tech professionals are teaching and they're super chill

[hollow bronze]

I did a 2 year course (sort of like vocational i suppose) of one class on digital type stuff (photography, filming, etc)

amazing teacher

he retired the year I left

The class I looked forward to going to

the only one

[wet girder]

Whenever I have vocational classes it feels like I'm not even in school because high school is such pain

in vocational I get to just code and chill with friends

[hollow bronze]

in terms of programming though? we had nothing

not that there are any programming jobs here (worth anything)

lul

[wet girder]

lol, where I live whenever new promising programmers join the field companies quite literally fight over them

especially when senior devs change jobs

my dad left his old workplace few years back and he didn't even need to reach to companies to get a job

just change work status in linkedin

[hoary hound]

Weeks after getting out of high school I started getting tons of job offers in my email inbox, but of course I decided to turn that down for... more math

[orchid frigate]

Im kinda worried that in the future when I need to get as job

Things will be so advanced low level devs wont be needed

Because everything low level will be managed already

[wet girder]

I've been reaching out to companies to get internship place and it's not fun

most companies aren't really welcoming for students in vocational school

[hoary hound]

Why though?

[wet girder]

But I have a place that I'll get for sure that's fullstack web development for a really tiny company. So I'll just create them home page for free and they let me see what the company does in return and tell my teacher how I did

[wet girder]

They want university students or University of applied sciences students

they're "way more capable" apparently

even though css takes pretty much no skill

just patience

[hoary hound]

University student here, that's bullshit

[wet girder]

lmao

[hollow bronze]

trust me there is lots

[orchid frigate]

omg I hit jackpot

[hollow bronze]

unfortunately yes, people will landlock jobs to uni level stuff for no reason lmao

[orchid frigate]

If I get good at this

[hollow bronze]

I have uni friends, and they aren't magically more competent

kek

[hasty bane]

yep that's also the case in russia

[wet girder]

it's just completely idiotic when the same companies are complaining that there isn't enough devs

[hollow bronze]

its good for understanding stuff

[hasty bane]

ig it has to do with just

[hollow bronze]

but I mean

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[hasty bane]

the people setting the requirements having no real idea of what a programmer actually does?

[hoary hound]

maybe, just maybe

[wet girder]

In bigger companies it seems to be so too often

[orchid frigate]

I saw what linux kernel devs get yearly and I have to say

The salary has made me study linux more in-depth

[unreal lion]

A

[eternal tinsel]

@stone fractal How did you learn how to code? I’m trying to learn

[next lotus]

youtube tutorials

[slim vapor]

@stone fractal

@stone fractal

@stone fractal

[hasty bane]

just walks in

pings maxim

disappears

[bold rover]

Goodbye

[next lotus]

your mobile will die too

its java

the browser js or nodejs

either way it doesnt matter this exists

search droidscript in google play lol

cant send links here

[barren shale]

java runs most of the shit on your phone

[knotty root]

hello

i think html is programming language

[half warren]

Ban <User:Mention/ID> [Reason:Text]

[-d d:Duration - Duration]
[-ddays ddays:Whole number - Delete Days]

Invalid arguments provided: Not enough arguments passed

[next lotus]

thats why all the shit in my phone are slow

[wet girder]

https://tenor.com/view/po-dies-dies-of-death-teletubbies-gif-23885910

Hyper Text Markup Language

Completely unrelated but this is the kinda shit we have in math

just weird calculations

nothing fun

[orchid frigate]

x²+3x+7=0

This is what we are solving rn

[wet girder]

that's just easy lmao

[orchid frigate]

Yea not when you bring in like 1000 different ways to do it

Ans then your teacher tells you you suck because you didnt use that one thing

[wet girder]

we are told thousand different ways but we're allowed to use any way we want

if we get the right answer

[orchid frigate]

I wish that was the case here

Anyway

Html is like

Cool i guess idk

Idk where I was going with that

Alright bye

[forest atlas]

Do we have Iranians here?

[wet girder]

#✈international-chat would be the correct place next time

[hasty bane]

dam bro

0⁹⁹⁹

[wet girder]

0

https://tenor.com/view/dog-doggo-cute-math-formulas-gif-17580986

internet just randomly crashed for a minute lmao

[hasty bane]

mek

kek

[orchid frigate]

Mek

[hasty bane]

mek

[orchid frigate]

mek

[main brook]

or use termux

also

i agree that running java on your phone

will unalive your phone

trust me

the jre itself is like

1gb

a clang and c++ cost like

600mb in total

and building shit on your phone

cpu = 99%

[hasty bane]

phones aren't rly that good for codes

[main brook]

true

[hasty bane]

its usable but

[main brook]

until you unlock its full potential

[hasty bane]

laptop / desktop better

[main brook]

can you put your laptop in your pocket

[hasty bane]

no but i can put it in my backpack

[main brook]

extra baggage

but each one is good in its own way

[hasty bane]

yeah kinda

[main brook]

not kinda

[hasty bane]

i would use a phone for like

[main brook]

also

[hasty bane]

small stuff

[main brook]

phone shell sucks ass

it uses

dash

[hasty bane]

gtg for like half an hour

[main brook]

shell

oki

[hasty bane]

gotta Walk

outDoors

[main brook]

why

[hasty bane]

goin home smh

[main brook]

oh

[wet girder]

only programming thing on phone I do is ssh to amps vps

I carry my backpack pretty much everywhere anyways and laptop doesn't take that much space in it that I can just carry my laptop everywhere

and I have a HP elitebook g8 so it definetly doesn't take a lot of space

[knotty root]

im just kidding

[wet girder]

ye I know but still: *dies*

[main brook]

you can actually hack using html

or basically

code a fuckin bot

with it

you just need a compiler

that compiles html to machine code

[wet girder]

well sql injection uses html tags to inject js or atleast sometimes

[main brook]

yes

<function name>
    <params param1 param2>

    <output param1 param2>
    <return param1 param2>
</function>

<name 1 2>

[hasty bane]

xss go brrrrrrrt

[orchid frigate]

You install node I think

If it isnt pre-installed

But I have no idea what node is so

[main brook]

nodejs

just do

pkg install nodejs

for vanilla js

just write some html that has a <script>

and a working js code inside it

open the file in a browser

done

[errant trail]

wrote in python php and tried c++

[next lotus]

so that explains everything

[errant trail]

what

also why are you acting like i legit stan js

im just joking

you can easily tell lmao

[next lotus]

oh xD sorry i bad at sensing sarcasm

[errant trail]

i sense sacarsm in there

[next lotus]

no totally not

[barren shale]

you first grader or somethin ?

[errant trail]

lol he is acting like he knew then he stopped

he would have not said something if he knew

[main brook]

me when

[hasty bane]

thats just quadratic equation isnt it?

[main brook]

i have no idea what's that

im still struggling with pythagoras theorem

because my math teacher is ass

[hasty bane]

you gotta be joking

[main brook]

no

im 8th grade and I don't know what the fuck is pythagoras theorem

[hasty bane]

wew

[main brook]

but i know shit tons about compurers

1 + 1 = 10

10 + 10 = 100

[hasty bane]

you should prob learn pythagorean theorem

[main brook]

no

[hasty bane]

it is pretty useful

and it is also

very simple

[main brook]

how simple it is

its something like

uh

c² = a² × b²

and then

shit tons of symbol appears

[hasty bane]

nah its c^2 = a^2 + b^2

c is hypotenuse

[main brook]

oh oki

[hasty bane]

a and b are the other two sides

[main brook]

what the heck is a hypotenuse

[hasty bane]

the diagonal part

[barren shale]

bro u first grader ?

[main brook]

ah

oki

you teach me faster than the fucking teacher

so its like

c² = 1² + 1²

[hasty bane]

hold on

[main brook]

so its 1

because

sqrt of 2

is

uhm

1

or something

wait no

THIS IS CONFUSING

[hasty bane]

[barren shale]

its the square root of two

1 + 1 = 2

c^2 = 2

c = sqrt of 2

ez math

[barren shale]

3 4 5

6 8 10

[hasty bane]

3 4 5 is certified hood classic

[barren shale]

a a a√2

these are common ones

[hasty bane]

@main brook you should look up stuff you're doing in math class on the internet

[main brook]

well oki

[hasty bane]

i assume you'll still have to do some sort of exam

[main brook]

the teacher deceased my confidence

[hasty bane]

once you're out of hs or w/e

yeah bad teachers suck

[main brook]

im on middle school

lmao

[hasty bane]

not sure how your education system works

but you gotta catch up

[barren shale]

school easy

college

even easier

your mum

fat

[hasty bane]

for some ppl

for a lot of ppl really

school isnt hard

you just need

to constantly do

a shit ton of repetitive work

and i hate it so much

i cant do it

[barren shale]

its not a shit ton

[hasty bane]

it is a shit ton here

[barren shale]

1 hour a day is enough

i thought it was a shit ton here

[hasty bane]

x to doubt

[barren shale]

everybody says its a shit ton here

[hasty bane]

what country?

[barren shale]

all i did is 1 hour

every day

syria

[hasty bane]

🤔

[barren shale]

we have the lowest acceptance rate in colleges

if you dont get 235/240 you cant become a doctor

and they only have 1000 spots in the university

[hasty bane]

tbf you might be right

[barren shale]

its just that nobody puts consistant one hour everyday

maybe more

but not that much more

3 hours is enough

i did 1 hour and i got 212/240

[wet girder]

hmm so you're as old as Luug so

[hasty bane]

im in russia

and in i think a top 100 school

[barren shale]

you just have to be consistantly putting effort

if you stop for one day

you are fucked

doesnt mean you should stop

[hasty bane]

the uni acceptance rate is smth stupid like 95%

[barren shale]

it means you should try to not sstop for one day

[hasty bane]

but the pressure is real

[barren shale]

out of 200k people only 1k can become doctors

when there's like 20k who wants to

or even more

[hasty bane]

hmm

Well

[wet girder]

less

[hasty bane]

Unis have a pretty high total exam score requirement for doctors here iirc

not just that but

[barren shale]

so that's 0.005:1 acceptance rate

[hasty bane]

people get thrown out during first and second year

[barren shale]

there are no exams in unis for us

[hasty bane]

oh w

wait

[barren shale]

you just need to get the highschool grade

[hasty bane]

i meant

[barren shale]

cuz its a shitty system

[hasty bane]

Highschool exam

at the end of highschool you have one huge exam called like

the United State Examination or w/e

[barren shale]

i almost failed in biology which made my score really shitty that i couldnt go to computer science college

[hasty bane]

that basically decides what uni you can go to

[barren shale]

yeah we have that

[hasty bane]

rip

it sucks

[barren shale]

yeah i had to pay for a private university

and almost didnt get in

just because i got a shitty mark on the biology exam

[wanton smelt]

I have a riddle

[barren shale]

nty

[wanton smelt]

How many minutes does it take to say water

[hasty bane]

sucks

[barren shale]

nobody cares

[hasty bane]

was bio a requirement?

like for every uni?

[barren shale]

all of them are

[hasty bane]

wow

holy shit

that is stupid

we here have

[barren shale]

they dont care about how much score you have per class

[hasty bane]

2 mandatory exams

math and russian

[barren shale]

they just care about the sum of the scores

[hasty bane]

and any number of exams up to you

[barren shale]

i need 230/240 to get in computer science

[hasty bane]

people usually go for 1-3

[hasty bane]

sheesh

[barren shale]

i can lose a sum of 10 marks

only

[hasty bane]

looking at NSU rn i see

[barren shale]

doesnt matter where

[hasty bane]

265/300 is the requirement

[hoary hound]

that sucks

[hasty bane]

that's 1. math
2. computer science / physics
3. russian

[barren shale]

i lost 17 in biology cuz its a thicc book that you have to memorise every word in like a doctor

[hasty bane]

i hate shit where you just have to absorb huge amounts of trash

[barren shale]

id still be down 3 marks but at least i wouldnt have to try so hard to get in a private university

[hasty bane]

because it might pop up in an exam

[hoary hound]

to get in uni I had to take an exam about various subjects and get a minimum score, the highest the score the highest the chance to get in

because there are a limited amount of available spots

[barren shale]

bro if they made a computer science exam to get in computer science college

i would be the first one in

[hoary hound]

so even if you pass you are not guaranteed to be accepted

[hasty bane]

it's called smth like informatics here but yeah its basically cs class

we start from stuff like scratch, then pascal then python

[hoary hound]

the exam was a bit wider, ranging from math, logic, science (like chemistry and physics) and literature for some reason?? lol

[hasty bane]

learning basic programming concepts like arrays, loops, functions along the way

[barren shale]

and here the government universities which are free

are monopolized

[hasty bane]

[barren shale]

they are not going to expand the universities so people have to go to private universities and pay a shit ton of money

they accept around 1000-2000 people per faculty

sometimes less

[hoary hound]

that smells like corruption

[barren shale]

its syria

so

[hasty bane]

for free per year?

or total

[barren shale]

yeah once you get in its free

you have 8 years to finish

[hasty bane]

yea we have that here too

8 years?

holy shit

why

[barren shale]

yeah its a 5 years degree

so they give you 8 years

if you keep failing

they kick you out

[hasty bane]

oh

i see

i thought it was a 8 years degree like

lmfao what

[barren shale]

no

doctors get their degree after 6 years

but usually study another 5 years

to specalize in something

[hasty bane]

yea that kinda stuff exists here too

[barren shale]

some of them study for another 10 years

[hoary hound]

holy shit

[hasty bane]

if they accept 1-2k per year per faculty though

thats kinda op

[barren shale]

neurologist studies for about 15 years

before he becomes a doctor

[hasty bane]

NSU over here has 185 free spots for IT faculty

[barren shale]

not really when there's 200k people

[hasty bane]

In total

[hoary hound]

that's... insanely low

[barren shale]

and only a couple of faculties have actual jobs after graduating

[hasty bane]

its p much the best uni here in siberia

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Akademgorodok

[barren shale]

looks cool

[hasty bane]

i've been there

it's really damn cool

clean, benches everywhere

then you go back to novosibirsk and it's just depression

can see it from a pretty good distance

[barren shale]

this is the university i go to rn

[hasty bane]

also looks pretty good

[barren shale]

yeah but paid a hefty price

[hasty bane]

it is how it is

this is the only good pic i can get of the thing top down

all others are just terrible resolution

there's a lot of other science stuff in akademgorodok

including the infamous vector biolabs where they make spooky shit

and store smallpox

[main brook]

no idea who's that

[wet girder]

my little brother, who's also a translator here

[main brook]

oh nice

well maybe

i mean im almost 15

and im in 8th grade

2nd semester

[wet girder]

so as old as Luug

and

[hasty bane]

almost 15? im like half 16

[wet girder]

I'm 16 and a half. Exactly six months until I'm 17 and I can get my driver's license year early because of long school trips

[barren shale]

bruh

yall

[wet girder]

being is good. More time to become good at programming

[barren shale]

yes but no

[wet girder]

well if I don't need to work for longer I have more time to learn new stuff

[hasty bane]

small gang!!

[barren shale]

i dont even work

ez

[hasty bane]

*yet

[barren shale]

never

[hasty bane]

wtf hamza

[barren shale]

wtf ?

[hasty bane]

never work

[barren shale]

maybe when im done with college

then ill work

[hasty bane]

lmao

you might have to

because of issues such as:
food
water
shelter
idk, clothing

[barren shale]

my dad's business is good enough

[hasty bane]

well that works ig

i couldnt just

stick to my parents though

maybe i could tbf

[barren shale]

i mean if you give me a programming job ill work

i searched for them for a bit

[hasty bane]

Yeah that makes sense lmao

[barren shale]

but then gave up

[hasty bane]

no job = no work

[barren shale]

they are very rare here

and they value degrees so much

that they wont give you work if you dont have a degree

[hasty bane]

you could move countries if you get a degree
are syrian degrees valued in places

[barren shale]

im moving the moment i finish college

[hasty bane]

fair

[barren shale]

and computer science degrees dont matter in general

its just an extra thing

that nobody will ask you for but if you have it its cool

[hasty bane]

employers just want A Degree from you

[barren shale]

that's in syria

but in most countries people dont care

they just want experienced people

[hasty bane]

russia

though

actually

im scrolling through jobs rn

and

most actually dont require a degree

just being good at smth

for example

junior c# dev

[barren shale]

send linc

[hasty bane]

its all in russian

lemme translate the requirements rq

[barren shale]

send link

i can read

cyka bylat

[hasty bane]

lmao

уверен?

[hoary hound]

ay wtf

[barren shale]

bro

i can only say cyka bylat

even tho you have the option between french and russian in syria

[hoary hound]

I was looking for job offers and I found one that is looking for a junior dev and they pay 22k-25k a month

[barren shale]

but that option was avaliable after i already selected french

would definetly have selected russian

instead of this baguette language

[barren shale]

bruh

that's not too bad

i mean

that's very good

is this a scam

[hoary hound]

sounds like a scam

[hasty bane]

Expectations in terms of skills and experience
• Knowledge of C# and .NET
• 3+ months of ASP.NET Core commercial development experience
• Working with PostgreSQL
• Understanding or working with ORM - Entity Framework Core
• understanding microservice architecture whatever taht means
• Experience with cloud platforms like Azure, AWS

[barren shale]

yeah done

send link

going to russia

brb

[hasty bane]

lmao

[barren shale]

i like how it says 3 months

instead of 3 years

i like russian jobs

[hasty bane]

https://rubius.com/company/about

think its these guys

but

[barren shale]

bruh

[hasty bane]

the application

[barren shale]

their names

[hasty bane]

seems off

[barren shale]

so russian

[hasty bane]

i mean like the hiring thing

but then again i never really looked at jobs because why would i lmao

[barren shale]

and they are all so tall

wtf

[hasty bane]

tfw one year of python experience hmm yess omw to get job

[barren shale]

if i work there i would look like a dwar

f

[hasty bane]

kek

[barren shale]

where's applications