⌨coders-cave

[orchid frigate]

And Google is useless once more

It also didnt set any other partitions as primary because thanks windows

[wet girder]

just boot without the stick in

should help probably

[orchid frigate]

Oh right I never got rid of it

Oops

Sorry windows

Ok there we go

[white pebble]

I made my final decision to learn javascript

[orchid frigate]

Fixed it thanks jupe

[white pebble]

thanks for everyone who helped me deciding what to learn!

[orchid frigate]

Nice

[wet girder]

what are you gonna be using it for?

[white pebble]

@wet girder to design some webs, and machine learning after i learn further

[hoary hound]

Machine learning on js?

Most people recommend python for ML

Since there are many libraries that help you when learning the basics

[barren shale]

there's tensorflow.js

but then you have to build your own frontend

most frontends are python

[orchid frigate]

Isnt machine learning low level stuff

In which case I would say basic knowledge of assembly is mandatory and some low level high level language like c or cpp

[hoary hound]

I'm not too well informed but unless you want to make your own libraries for it, ml isn't too low level

At a beginner level that is

If you mean those big tech companies that make the cool AIs than yeah you could be right

[orchid frigate]

Oh wait

I switched computer science with machine learning

[hoary hound]

[orchid frigate]

Oops well

Yea python is for machine learning

Mainly

And some others

[dawn hinge]

!join

join

help

|help

|join

!help

!help commands

[split parrot]

It looks like you don't have any commands to show.

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[dawn hinge]

?join

?commands

?help

[bold rover]

Why

they don't know there's a bot channel

[glad lantern]

I’m about to begin advanced coding, any recommendations for softwares, platforms, exc?

I’m gonna do games

[glad lantern]

Rn I’m gonna use C# and Unity

Moving to C++ for the “advanced coding”

[main brook]

use C++ if you need low level and execution speed

[orchid frigate]

With cpp what are you gonna do

Another game engine or no engine

Idk about engines but for no engine I can definitely help with some basics

Like rendering with graphics APIs

[barren shale]

i dont recommend getting help from haydot

as he made a 1 fps on an empty screen engine

[bold rover]

did haydot got muted

that's strange

[barren shale]

no he just has the bandit role

[bold rover]

Ow

still strange

[main brook]

hi kia

[orchid frigate]

Yes because it had a memory leak

Which i fixed

[barren shale]

mhmm

[orchid frigate]

I FIXED IT

Then I abondened the project because

I moved to vulkan

[barren shale]

mhmm

[orchid frigate]

They removed my bandit role

A part of me has died

😔

[bold rover]

Hi hi

good morning by the way

It's probably not morning but ow well

[main brook]

it was noon

[main brook]

nice bread pfp

[bold rover]

Thank you like usual

your pfp reminds me a popular webcomic

[main brook]

what is it

[kindred panther]

im coder

I know that this chat isnt sandbox related

but is there source code

[barren shale]

obviously no

[kindred panther]

me derp

[barren shale]

you can still use a decompiler

[wet girder]

This is basically normal US CS colleges but free

https://youtube.com/c/cs50

[blissful wedge]

is this the ooga booga cave

[orchid frigate]

Wait

NO

THEY TOOK IT AWAY

AGAIN

Thats it im quietly rioting

Just open it through a text editor like vscode

There are text editors on mobile idk where the .wbox files are tho

[orchid frigate]

Well this chat is as dead as objective C

[ruby shore]

Woo

High-frequency my crew g finish

[orchid frigate]

Ima revive chat by stating a controversial opinion

Vim is actually good because its able to be used in the console

And nano sucks because....it sucks

[hoary hound]

Exiting vim be like

[orchid frigate]

Final stage: stopping the electricity in the entire city

[hoary hound]

[lapis minnow]

Thank you

[hoary hound]

@knotty root @lapis minnow @atomic ibex use #🤖bot-commands

[lapis flint]

wtf

[grand scarab]

?

[lapis flint]

WTF

[wet girder]

the deeper I get into designing and implementing professional programs the more I want to just straight change to cyber security but I already am getting an education in software development so I can just use that as leverage when I inevitably do change my field

I love coding and computers and everything but designing functioning pieces of software is just boring and uninteresting to me

And for sure I'm not gonna be a coder like what my education is sort of teaching to become

[orchid frigate]

Remember

Hackers are always coders first

[wet girder]

That's exactly why I do coding at the moment

[orchid frigate]

I wouldn't have been able to understand how to disassemble and use the info in reverse engineering in the first hour without my os dev knowledge

[wet girder]

and will continue doing it for minimum of 2 years depending if I get to do cyber sec stuff in the army when I have to go there

[orchid frigate]

Hi

[wet girder]

Heya

[hoary hound]

I'm not sure what kind of field I want to get into

[orchid frigate]

After starting to learn how easy a normal C file is to break I understood how hard it is to code

[hoary hound]

Machine learning is interesting but the math kinda scares me away

[wet girder]

I'm 90% I want to do cyber sec

[orchid frigate]

There is no math really

[hoary hound]

It's like all math

[orchid frigate]

Its just learning how to deal with hexadecimal

[hoary hound]

Statistics

I mean the theory

[orchid frigate]

No

[wet girder]

just read few messages up

[orchid frigate]

Fuck theory amirite

[hoary hound]

[wet girder]

ai theory is 100% just statistics which is math

[hoary hound]

Yup

[orchid frigate]

No there is theory and you gotta know it but still

WAIT

[wet girder]

and big portion of ai is theory

[orchid frigate]

MACHINE LEARNING != COMPUTER SCIENCE FUUUU

[hoary hound]

Lool

[wet girder]

lol

[orchid frigate]

Second time now

[wet girder]

CS is way too broad concept ngl

[hoary hound]

I'm going to call it AI from now on ok

[orchid frigate]

They took it away damnit

[hoary hound]

That's what I was thinking

It's so broad you are not even sure what you are learning anymore

Or why

[orchid frigate]

Without a SINGLE bit of explanation

Im mad af ngl

[wet girder]

Some stuff inside CS don't really align with each other yet they need each other to function

[wet girder]

yep

[hoary hound]

Well if you ask mastef he will give you a whole paragraph on why your opinion is stupid

[orchid frigate]

Idk but reverse engineering has thought me string == bad very bad

[wet girder]

There's 5 CS fields in my vocational school and they are all completely different but still under the same name

[orchid frigate]

Will it be valid

Cracking a program that has strings is pretty easy

[hoary hound]

I once tried reverse engineering Google sheets api

It wasn't fun ngl

[orchid frigate]

[wet girder]

Everything is easy after you understand it, it feels like

[orchid frigate]

Sounds fun to do

Ima try it

[wet girder]

I remember that lol

[hoary hound]

Lol

Glad I found an easier solution

[wet girder]

but it worked out

[hoary hound]

Ehh

I use Google apps script now

[orchid frigate]

Idk whats wrong with me but I like to do everything the hardest way possible and do the hardest things

[hoary hound]

Using the reverse api was a bit impractical

[orchid frigate]

Like instead of climing the hacking ladder I will just say in day 1 "fuck it im hacking google"

[wet girder]

lol, quite obviously but it seems fun to do

[hoary hound]

Yeah it was fun but after a while I became stressed because the more I dug, the less I understood. So I just changed approach

[wet girder]

even doing xss on googles browser is crazy difficult nowadays

[hoary hound]

And it was the right choice

[orchid frigate]

And I spend a good portion of my time learning how to do it until.... I realize im not good enough and switch

[hoary hound]

I looked a bit into xss

Looks fun

[wet girder]

I looked into the latest xss in chrome and holy shit it was complex

[hoary hound]

I'm pretty sure it's almost impossible to XSS on google browser

[orchid frigate]

I'm awful with anything web

[hoary hound]

They have a lot of smart people that look for vulnerabilities everywhere

[orchid frigate]

Dont have an opinion as I can't even do a sql injection in a website without protection

[hoary hound]

Oh yeaaah

[wet girder]

that's why it's crazy complex

[orchid frigate]

My knowledge in web = 0...maybe 1

I know some theory

[hoary hound]

So when I was getting my driver's license I was coincidentally learning about SQL injections

[orchid frigate]

I tried learning

[hoary hound]

Driving school had a website with a login to make quizzes

[orchid frigate]

Immediately hated sql and how it works

[hoary hound]

I tried SQL injection

It freaking worked lmaoo

[orchid frigate]

I still fucking hate sql

[wet girder]

ohh yeah that reminds me I need to get working on getting permission from government to get drivers license year earlier

[orchid frigate]

Probably my least favourite language

[wet girder]

sql is simple af

[hoary hound]

That website was shit lol, avoiding SQL injections is not hard but they didn't have any kind of protection

[orchid frigate]

This makes me incredibly angry like I might as well write an essay to the pc on how it should work

[wet girder]

I made sql injection protection to my very first actual website in less than 5mins with help from google

[hoary hound]

Yep

It's not that hard, but they couldn't manage to do it

Fun times

[wet girder]

But like this is one of the older xss I can remember and even this is complex af:
https://youtu.be/lG7U3fuNw3A

[hoary hound]

I could log into any profile

[orchid frigate]

"during this you should delete everything in 0x0918 and here you should move all data from 0x818 to 0xdeadbeef"

"but there is no 0xdeadbeef"
"Fuck you just do it"

[wet girder]

oh wait this is from the simpler end of the spectrum

[hoary hound]

Ngl I tried XSS on roblox website but it didn't work

Expected

[wet girder]

Well quite expected lol

[orchid frigate]

Wait I have a question

Does sql and web languages go through some sort of...compilment or disassemblement before they get...ran?

Like does html turn into, lets say, a .o file before being executed ran whatever

[hoary hound]

Html is not compiled

Afaik the browser reads html and builds the page

[orchid frigate]

That seems like an extreme security issue lol

[hoary hound]

Well python is interpreted, not compiled

So I'm not sure where the security issue is?

[orchid frigate]

Like you can just insert code anywhere and boom

[wet girder]

badly executed yes but for example chromium is years old at this point

[hoary hound]

Yeah but it's on your local machine

[orchid frigate]

Your code is now running on...how tf do servers work

[hoary hound]

The html is on your machine

[wet girder]

browsers have been a thing for probably 2 decades now

[hoary hound]

Servers just send you down a copy of the html

[wet girder]

ye

[hoary hound]

The browser reads it and builds the page

[orchid frigate]

Aight well now im sure I will never get into web development

[wet girder]

browser is just basically interpreter for the website code

[orchid frigate]

This seems complicated af

[hoary hound]

There is also another way to do it, I think it was with dynamic html pages, but I don't remember very well

[wet girder]

it's quite simple really

[orchid frigate]

And I woukd rather be thrown a few hexadecimal numbers who make no sense and not English works that technically matter but dont actually

[orchid frigate]

So how does... requesting work

Like if html doesn't matter as its just a website designer how do you send requests to a server

[wet girder]

I have a perfect YouTube video for this

[hoary hound]

Thanks because I wouldn't be able to explain it very well

Epic emoji fail

you didn't see anything

[orchid frigate]

You are forgetting the logs

[hoary hound]

Shush

[orchid frigate]

🤫

[wet girder]

This is technically more networking related than browser but these 3 videos explain it perfectly with a deeper look
https://youtu.be/CRdL1PcherM
https://youtu.be/3kfO61Mensg
https://youtu.be/oIRkXulqJA4
but the middle link should be enough for the basic question

[orchid frigate]

Ah network Chuck I learned how to use proxies from him

[wet girder]

I love his videos

[orchid frigate]

Then I uninstalled linux and forgot

[wet girder]

every video of the free CCNA series is a gem

the linux for hackers series is also a gem

[orchid frigate]

I miss linux so much 😭

[wet girder]

dual boot

[orchid frigate]

Yea

But recently my teachers decided to tell me fuck you and rain everything at one go at me

That's why I havent been coding either I constantly have a big ol' headache

Anyway this convo went to shit so uhh im leave

Cya

[wet girder]

cya

[half warren]

User reported to the proper authorities!

[grand scarab]

@atomic ibex don't flood.

[tranquil oar]

Sorry

[vapid briar]

French devs out Here?

[orchid frigate]

We barely have English devs even less French devs

[fair oriole]

Gm

[vapid briar]

Yeah it’s very difficult to find some

[knotty root]

I need help

i have a project coming up and I decided to use computer engineering

the thing is idk what to make

has to do with biology physics or chemistry

[barren shale]

maddox is from belgium

[hasty bane]

webdev is pretty cool

but

its a bit too messy 4 me

[orchid frigate]

Exactly

Its like these things may matter but not really and then you can change this but it wont actually do anything its just strange

Trying to find a vulnerability in a website is like trying...sec

Ok clear that though changed my mind

[barren shale]

#817762451293470730

[wet girder]

I'm only 9 hours late to answer but I'mma answer anyways. Webdev is ok, I just don't like making websites without frameworks

[barren shale]

nobody does

[main brook]

i make my website

raw

[barren shale]

you stupid

you think you cool

jobs think you stupid who didnt learn any framework

[orchid frigate]

With what

Without code thats like telling me your computer has a problem without elaborating any further

Jeez you really improved your coding

[knotty root]

Guys

I have my acc back

Finally

Its been a year

[orchid frigate]

But a lil problem there are a few variables that I dont see there origin

I have been for a month because im too lazy to download linux but anyway

Ummm first of all kinds random tabs sometimes like with userHP -=5;

Bot that thats a code problem just makes it kinda hard to read

Anyway

Is this the main function

Ok so whenever you type attack both the info and the attack appear

[robust spoke]

What is this

[barren shale]

Post it on pastebin

So I can see it on phone

[orchid frigate]

Screenshot me output because its either wayyy to early in the morning for me to be looking at code or there isnt an apparent issue

[barren shale]

Yeah and what is the output you are expecting

[robust spoke]

Wth are this codes

[orchid frigate]

Its called programming

Your computer runs on them

Ok wait

Does the program ever loop

Return ro the info if statement

[barren shale]

Go to pastebin and paste it their

[robust spoke]

Oh

Am mobile

'-'

.^.

[orchid frigate]

Ok I dont have alot of time to examine it because. Of school but I think the problem is the program looping and password constantly being == info but not sure because once again I have school to attend

Gonna take a second look later if you need it

[barren shale]

@knotty root you want help?

Then post it on pastebin

And send me the link

[orchid frigate]

No not a bin file

Like the website pastebin

[barren shale]

https://pastebin.com/

[orchid frigate]

Ok ima go now bye

[barren shale]

This does work

I need syntax highlighting

Just take a picture of the code

Use the snipping tool

To take a picture of the code

[wet girder]

win+shift+s fastest way

I'm in school, can't rn

just wait

[barren shale]

So

What is wrong

Then there’s no problem

So what is the output you are getting

Can you screenshot the console

And post it here

And what do you want the output to be

Then remove every console.writeline problem solved

Next case

Password is equal to info

So it’s obviously gonna type info

Replace every pin with password

Yeah

Ur mum

Ok then

Wait 6 hours

Until I’m home

And I can use my laptop

Bye I have a lecture

[orchid frigate]

@knotty root ima look at your home again when I also am home

Yes I'm looking at your home

[orchid frigate]

Um currently looking at your home

Its quite nice

[hoary hound]

Watchu need help with

Alright just a sec that I get on pc

what's the problem with this output

ok I need to run it on my machine because I'm not understanding it very well

@knotty rootdoes it get stuck in an infinite loop?

ok it makes sense

basically what you did here is a do while right? Once password is set to "/info" at the beginning, it will keep repeating that cycle as long as password is "/info". The problem is that inside this cycle, password will never be changed, hence the loop goes on indefinitely

What happens when you exit the while

Does the game end?

I mean

Is it supposed to end after you exit the while?

Is that your intent?

Then why is there a do while in the first place

[wet girder]

I was just gonna say that

like that but exit the loop when the user input is correct

do while and while can both do the job

[barren shale]

@knotty root the best way to fix it

is to remake it

[noble plank]

no clue what any of that means but here have a baby nft

[lone escarp]

Is there a modding scene for this game?

[orchid frigate]

Hamza you have reasently gotten so many good opinions on stuff I can't believe it

You are starting to think like me

Like that was a genuinely good advice

Aight just got home

And yea they fixed it

[exotic vessel]

Ah yes... The Nerd Cave

[main brook]

hi how to code

help pls i want to hack insta and fb

my acting skill is a masterpiece

also for some reason

in python

you can do a in statement for a generator

like

1 in (i+1 for i in range(10))

idk if it consumes the entire generator

or like

idk

[barren shale]

always have been

[wet girder]

my internet does not like me hosting apache server on it lmao

it just straight up crashed after I put apache server online

[orchid frigate]

Why does python look so confusing

[main brook]

that thing is called

a comprehension

its inline of a simple for loop

[main brook]

lmao

[orchid frigate]

Uhhhh follow my steps

1. Have Linux, preferably arch because thats what I know best considering I spent like a month in Linux and im too lazy to install again
2. On linux terminal, run sudo pacman -S cmatrix
3. Run cmatrix
4. You are hacking NASA

[main brook]

i hack nasa with html

technically i can

[orchid frigate]

Thats what real hackers do

[main brook]

because Cross Site Scripting

[orchid frigate]

Hello Gerry

That's your name now Gerry

[main brook]

hi both of you

[orchid frigate]

I was thinking more of converting html to CPU instructions but considering I dont know anything web yes I guess that also works

Now that I think about it any language can theoretically be assembled

Even html if it had an assembler

So assembly isnt special fuck yea fuck you assembly

[barren shale]

there's something called web assembler

that's how you run C# and C++ apps on the web

what

string input;
do {
  Console.Clear();
  Console.Write("Enter Input: ");
  input = Console.ReadLine();
} while(input != "Correct Input");

[main brook]

hi

[barren shale]

hi

[orchid frigate]

You could also have an infinite loop

Which checks every time its ran if input == wanted input

And break when it is

Which is the exact same slower version of what he said

Dont worry about it just use what he said its better

[orchid frigate]

YOOO THE KALI TERMINAL IS SICK

It has like text highlighting and shit its awesome

The arch terminal was boring af

And Kali feels so much more like an actually finished os

[orchid frigate]

Aight installed kali

The installation went perfectly

So I can code now :)

[main brook]

haydot

@orchid frigate

you know those are shells

that makes it

looks awesome

there's like

[orchid frigate]

Yea

[main brook]

zsh and fish

you can change your own shell

so-

arch with cool terminal

is possible

[orchid frigate]

Yea but like... I don't got an excuse

So I will just use one automatic @main brook didnt ask + ratio + dont care + cancelled

Ok now that thats dealt with we can proceed

[main brook]

[orchid frigate]

Jeez a new os feels like a new phone

The first hour you are careful not to break it or fill it with garbage

Afterwords you just break it and fill it with garbage

[wet girder]

More like a new computer Imo. Everything runs differently plus what you said. My PC's performance is completely different in Linux than in windows. There's a big drop moving to Windows but it's probably not as noticable on better hardware

[bold rover]

hi

like usual

[wet girder]

I just wrote 150 more lines to make one single line of text on my website responsive

I will have like 1500 lines of css after making the whole website responsive

[orchid frigate]

Ok now thats annoying

Like I would have gone insane if I had to do that

[orchid frigate]

Kali has been running... kinda slower than I expected

[wet girder]

well it is meant for only hacking

[orchid frigate]

Compared to arch its slow but compared to windows its fast af

[wet girder]

and to be used on vms

[orchid frigate]

But arch is literally barely a functioning os tho

[wet girder]

well you gotta set it up yourself

[orchid frigate]

Yea

[wet girder]

if you set it up to be barely working then yes

[orchid frigate]

Its like a higher level bare metal

It was pretty good tho but definitely not a good main os

Its just too...minimal

Yea thats a good word

[wet girder]

my friend uses it as his main OS

he has used dozens of hours to set everything the way he likes it

which is very admirable

and I'd love to do that as well

[barren crown]

hi guys any of you use unity?

[wet girder]

A bit

[orchid frigate]

Good thing I installed it for that

[wet girder]

bad thing you installed it as your main os

[orchid frigate]

I have been pretty keen on hacking recently but I havent been able to use any of its tools because...well reverse engineering

[orchid frigate]

Not particularly main just a half main

Plus now I understand linux installation way better

So I can pretty much change whenever I want

[wet girder]

fair

I don't recommend Ubuntu or !Pop_OS

I don't like them either at all

[orchid frigate]

I know ubuntu is an os made to be like a main os but what does pop_OS specialize in

Like whats it for

Because I have heard most distributions have their uses

Individual

[wet girder]

to be used by anyone whether they are new to linux or not

[orchid frigate]

Ah so kinda like ubuntu

[wet girder]

it is not good for intermediate to professional level use of linux

works fine if you don't want to change anything majorly

[wet girder]

but does its job better

[orchid frigate]

Hmmm ok

Will keep that in mind

[orchid frigate]

I... I fell in love with python

After creating a key generator and comparing how difficult it was in c

I still prefer c but python definitely won a place in my hearth

[wet girder]

I've fallen in love with C++

and I haven't written a single line of C++ in months

[hoary hound]

I hate c++ because I have to do an exam with it, but I understand that it's a cool language

[wet girder]

Everytime I write something in C# I always miss something from C++

[hoary hound]

like?

[wet girder]

I missed pointers today. They're so damn useful in random times

also I just like C++ syntax more

[hoary hound]

pointers

[wet girder]

Pointers are hard and bit annoying but I still love them

[hoary hound]

it's less fun when you have to balance a binary tree with them

[orchid frigate]

pointers are amazing

They are like a blessing to all C languages

[orchid frigate]

Uhhhh

People talking about the c languages

Pointers

Linux distros

Ans yea thats it

[clear bobcat]

I used to work with C++ so much

Very fast and very useful for programming in general

I did a lot of Computer vision and loved OpenCV + C++

[main brook]

hi

[bold rover]

morning 👋

[main brook]

hi kis

kia

[orchid frigate]

hi rei

hi kia

[barren shale]

hi hamza

[orchid frigate]

Jo hamza

👋

[main brook]

when your brother university friends are so SOOOOO clueless about os but the professor decided to make them use linux without even knowing what the fuck does any commands even means

they don't even know how to like

change directory

but its cool

i helped him

basically upgrade his ubuntu from a 3 year without update

also

i found out

termux stdin sucks

for some weird reason

in python

if you do input()

it doesn't take SIGINT

until the stdin has consumed a line

but

sys.stdin.readline()

works

it didn't halt the SIGINT

so it errors out with Keyboard Interrupt

[dusty aspen]

Hello

[hasty bane]

hey i know uow to do that!

its cd!!

[barren shale]

yes happens everytime

god damn you brother's university

[orchid frigate]

That must have taken a long time for all the things to upgrade

Like the..mm

Uhhh

The...

God fucking damnit I forgot

End of Ted talk

[main brook]

it took like

idk hoe long

most of them are downloading the packages

and initializing the initramfs

the unpack part is quick

[upper wren]

~ definetraits lucky, attractive, pyromaniac, strong, wise, genius, giant, fast, tough, agile, content, kingslayer, honest,

[barren shale]

#🤖bot-commands

[hasty bane]

he defines traits you can not stop him

[orchid frigate]

I like your nickname

[hasty bane]

yes

[orchid frigate]

very important discussions here in #⌨coders-cave

[bold rover]

Important things

[main brook]

important things!!

[orchid frigate]

Important things!!!!?

[main brook]

important things?

[hasty bane]

@main brook opionion on comptia

[main brook]

what's

comptia

[barren shale]

its a non profit company that gives out it certifications

although its a very company

[hasty bane]

why is it sus

[barren shale]

it used to support right to repair

but for unknown reasons its now against it

amongsus

[hasty bane]

true

im more curious abt the certificates themselves tho

because stuff like comptia a+

looks like a god damn scam

200 bux

per attempt i believe

and the practice materials

do not match the real deal

unless you pay for proper practice materials

which means you pay more than 200 bux for the certificate

[barren shale]

tbh

you dont need any of this shit

[orchid frigate]

My opinion on the subject is that

I have no idea what it is nor what does it do

But I give it w fair 5/10 👍

[barren shale]

your opinion the subject

does not matter

[orchid frigate]

Write me a 100 word essay on why

No

1000 word

I want a full explanation

[barren shale]

how about

one word

you suck

oh wait

nvm

[orchid frigate]

Ok

Write me

An essay

On why I suck

[barren shale]

1000 words ?

[orchid frigate]

So that I can better myself in the future

And not suck

10 - 100 - 1000 whatever im not your English teacher

[barren shale]

done

[orchid frigate]

0 words?

[barren shale]

1000

https://pastebin.com/rr22Vf8d

here

[orchid frigate]

But like

[barren shale]

you can check iff u want

[orchid frigate]

Thats not

Helpful

[barren shale]

sounds like

a you problem

[orchid frigate]

You see you say I have a fault and clearly dislike me because of it so I give you a fair deal

Where you tell me what the fault is

I fix it if I can

Boom

Everyone happy

[barren shale]

i dont hate anyone

you just suck

[orchid frigate]

Ok

Fair enough

I will keep sucking then...ok thats very badly phrased I will keep not doing good then

You brought me into this trap didnt you you planned this

[barren shale]

what

no

you just suck

[orchid frigate]

In what

Do I suck

[barren shale]

life

[orchid frigate]

Coding being a person be more explicit

[barren shale]

what

[orchid frigate]

Sounds interesting

Ok how is the game going

That you were making

[barren shale]

what game

[orchid frigate]

The game that you and Borat I think were woking on

[barren shale]

as i said before you suck i stopped working on it since i dont have time

[orchid frigate]

How does me sucking have anything to do with the game

[barren shale]

i didnt say it did

[orchid frigate]

Jesus did I ruin your career or something why do you keep bringing it up

[barren shale]

bringing what up

[orchid frigate]

https://c.tenor.com/NfdAkhvy3AEAAAAM/buzz-no-signs-of-intelligent-life.gif

[barren shale]

maybe true in your room

[orchid frigate]

Your mom

[barren shale]

unless there's someone else in it

[barren shale]

that's inappropriate

[orchid frigate]

Yea

And

?

[barren shale]

wow

[orchid frigate]

Are you gonna ban me or smt

[barren shale]

pathetic

[orchid frigate]

Thats like

The most random insult ever

[barren shale]

i feel sorry for you

[orchid frigate]

Cool

And?

Anything else to say

[barren shale]

you suck

[orchid frigate]

I heard that before tell me something new

[barren shale]

you suck

[orchid frigate]

Adding more spaces doesn't mean its new

[barren shale]

it does

[orchid frigate]

Ok it does kinda but thats not the point

[barren shale]

it is

[orchid frigate]

The point is .

laugh track plays

[barren shale]

very miserable

[orchid frigate]

Very miserable

[barren shale]

that's you

[orchid frigate]

Minor spelling mistake

[barren shale]

no

[orchid frigate]

No*

[barren shale]

you are

very sad

[orchid frigate]

Also this is the most off topic we have been in a while

[orchid frigate]

Im actually feeling quite happy with my life

So I would disagree

[barren shale]

of course

feeling happy

does not

make you

look not

sad

[orchid frigate]

Are you a therapist or smt what does that even mean

[barren shale]

it means

when people

look at

you they

feel sad

[orchid frigate]

Why

[barren shale]

because that's

how you

look

and sound

[orchid frigate]

Ok tell me why

So that I can better myself but you wont and you will just keep repeating random shit because you dont have a valid answer

[barren shale]

i do

i just

dont have

to tell

you

[orchid frigate]

Lmao

Lamest excuse ever

[barren shale]

no

that's you

[orchid frigate]

Kinda sad

Ngl

[barren shale]

reflecting yourself

on others

is a

sign of

being sad

[orchid frigate]

Mr hamza the therapist here

Telling us his knowledge

And secrets

[orchid frigate]

Besides when did I do that

[barren shale]

lying to yourself

saying that

you didnt

do things

[orchid frigate]

Will you tell me or bring up another excuse like "my internet died"

[barren shale]

that you

actually did

another sign

[orchid frigate]

What sort of things

[barren shale]

of disperation

[barren shale]

this

[orchid frigate]

You know since this conversation has started you have not given a single straight answer

[barren shale]

i have

[orchid frigate]

Everything was just digging further and further into a rabbit hole of meaninglessness

That im happy I wasted your time with

[barren shale]

you didnt

i did

[orchid frigate]

Because clearly you just wanted to waste mine

[barren shale]

wong

[orchid frigate]

So atleast I returned the favour

[barren shale]

wrong*

[orchid frigate]

Now if you would excuse me

I have more important stuff to do

[barren shale]

sure you

do

like crying

i assume

[orchid frigate]

No more like studying talking to people

[barren shale]

step 1

open mouth

step 2

talk

[orchid frigate]

And enjoying life instead of listening to your sad attempts at whatever the fuck you are doing

You used to be so fun to talk to now you just seem miserable yourself

[wicked heron]

🍿

[barren shale]

reflecting again

[orchid frigate]

Yea im reflecting at the time you weren't what you are now and idc what your therapist said but that's not bad you should.do it from time to time

[barren shale]

makes

no sense

i guess

you really

need that

studying

[orchid frigate]

Studying what

[hoary hound]

What the fuck are you guys on

[orchid frigate]

Phycology like you

[barren shale]

talking to

people

and spelling

[orchid frigate]

He just started saying random shit that made no sense and refused to give actual answers

Which is a pretty good sign of trolling ngl

So im returning the favour by wasting his time just like how he wasted mine

[barren shale]

you think

but jokes

on you

[hoary hound]

I did in fact waste my time reading this chat

Goodbye

[orchid frigate]

Ima also go

I dont think I wanna listen to more of this its not productive

And its pretty sad

[barren shale]

you are

[orchid frigate]

Well idk what happened

But after this conversation

My windows will no longer boot

So thanks

You really did waste my time and now I will need to reinstall

[hasty bane]

install linux @orchid frigate @orchid frigate @orchid frigate

[orchid frigate]

I have kali

On dual boot

Also fixed windows

Turns out hard turning off during an update wasn't a good idea

Or is it called like

Cold....reboot

I guess

Idk

[hasty bane]

yeah dont turn off window during upda

i had my laptop get stuck in download

and it just kept going until battery died

[orchid frigate]

It even tells you that when its doing it but in my defense it never said its updating

[hasty bane]

so i spent a few hrs debugging it

[hasty bane]

My least fav feature is auto update on restart

[orchid frigate]

Yea that sucks because when it started doing it it was stuck in one place for like 10 minutes

So ofcourse I cold reboot

[barren shale]

its not like you can choose the option to not update on restart

[hasty bane]

wHOA

where it at

[barren shale]

you literally get 2 buttons

one is called Update before restart

[hasty bane]

oh

[barren shale]

one is called restart

[hasty bane]

oh no

[barren shale]

click restart

[hasty bane]

i didn't get that in like

[barren shale]

doesnt update

[hasty bane]

the shutdown menu thing

it was just normal restart

[barren shale]

the normal restart

is in the shutdown menu

[hasty bane]

yes

is it supposed to do update

[sullen tapir]

What’s the next world box update?

[severe ivy]

worldbox 3d

[sullen tapir]

Really?

[severe ivy]

no

idk

[hasty bane]

@lapis flint question about bot

how many people are registered users and how much space does the user info occupy? im guessing you use sql for it but im curious at what point you need proper storage instead of just keeping in memory.
working on a small project of my own and not sure if I'll screw myself long term by not having a DB

[lapis flint]

i dont use sql db

i am using mongo db

its json like db

all data rn is just 5mb

you can check some info by using _world command

[hasty bane]

oh wow

looks like there's no point in a db for a bot unless you're going for smth massive

good to know

[lapis flint]

No, its still db, but not sql-based

[hasty bane]

Yeah i know

just

I'll probably be keeping data as pandas dataframes

will test the thing later today

but i think setting up a proper db for what im doing is a bit overkill

[lapis flint]

new bot in which i am working right now i am just using json as data collector. Just saving data to file as json, because this bot will just on one server and needs to keep only settings about this server

so yes, if you dont need to keep many data units, better to use something lighter than db

[hasty bane]

Probably going to keep data in memory as dataframes when its running and have it read on startup and write on shutdown

[wet girder]

What if it crashes?

[hasty bane]

unfortunate

[barren shale]

sql dbs are only used for huge scale

[hasty bane]

autosave to disk once per x hours

[barren shale]

and they dont use them alone

[novel narwhal]

Кто русский

[barren shale]

#817762451293470730 -> #🇷🇺-русский-чат

[novel narwhal]

@barren shale

[lapis flint]

Just as in my json storage method, save for each change

[wet girder]

Amp does that too

we just use firebase because it's easy and pretty much just jsons and if we happen to loose data on VPS we'll still have the data available to us

[hasty bane]

Actually yeah you are right

Nothing is stopping me from writing to file

its not like i cant still store the thing

in memory

[earnest flax]

!rank

[split parrot]

You aren't ranked yet. Send some messages first, then try again.

[barren shale]

@hasty bane you can always switch to a db

doesnt require a lot of work

if its json

[hasty bane]

lazy

[near vale]

which language should i start with ..m a newbie

[orchid frigate]

really matters what you wanna do

make video games? windows application? android applications?

but good first languages are python and c#

and if you wanna do game dev you should try c# with unity

[knotty root]

do you guys know how to download mods thru the discord server?

[barren shale]

#🔧modding-talk

i like how haydot is giving advice

like he is good or smthing

[orchid frigate]

Ok mr im amazing at everything

You give advice

That isnt based around c#

[barren shale]

i never said i am

[orchid frigate]

Its a Challange

Well if you aren't then how would you know im bad

[barren shale]

im better than you

[orchid frigate]

Your logic is as good as you

Lmao

Ok

At what failing

[barren shale]

??

what does that even mean

[orchid frigate]

To be good at failing

I don't know if you know what failing means

But your real good at it

[barren shale]

bruh

that's you

[orchid frigate]

Ok lmao

You are basically no youing me at this point

Kinda pathetic ngl

[barren shale]

bruh

what did i fail at

bruh momentos

[orchid frigate]

I could tell you

But i dont have to

[barren shale]

okeh

your opinion doesnt matter anyway

[orchid frigate]

Its the internet

Your opinion doesnt matter either

Noone's opinion matters

[barren shale]

maybe not for you

[orchid frigate]

Im sure that to you your opinion does but it doesnt to me

[barren shale]

obviously my opinion matters to me

why would it be my opinion if it doesnt

[orchid frigate]

Yesterday you told me about my problems

Lemme tell you about your

[barren shale]

ok type them down

ill go take as hower

and then come and read them

[orchid frigate]

Your ego is higher then a mountain

Its like someone ever praised you but sadly they didnt

[hasty bane]

i literally never fail

i only

[orchid frigate]

You are sad but you dont wanna admit it and thats why you decide to troll on the internet where you can just put a mask and noone will know who did it

[hasty bane]

refuse to win

[orchid frigate]

I could go longer but I have a maths class to attend to

And that's more important than giving you a free therapy session

[hasty bane]

lmao

the haydot hamza war

[orchid frigate]

I dont want a war i wont peace

Like do you think I enjoy this

Being called sad and whatever the fuck else

[hasty bane]

it pretty cringe

HAMZA link your githob

[barren shale]

lazy

[hasty bane]

smh smh

[barren shale]

Lol you said wont

[hasty bane]

hamzaa probably doesnt even write code !

[barren shale]

https://github.com/HamzaNa1

[hasty bane]

o

stuff looks pretty good

@barren shale what is hportaler for

[barren shale]

making maps for a video game

[hasty bane]

🤔 map generator?

[barren shale]

here's the old version made in C#

https://hamzana1.github.io/Portaler.NET/

the new version is hosted privately for my guild

the old version sucked

[hasty bane]

kek

[barren shale]

here's the new one

[hasty bane]

looks better

[barren shale]

blazor is just bad right now

not recommended

[hasty bane]

why is it bad

bad recent changes or is it not ready to compete with stuff like node

[barren shale]

too new

[orchid frigate]

Your mom said wont

[hasty bane]

fair

[barren shale]

still needs more work

and dont use react

[hasty bane]

Initial release 2018; 4 years ago

thats a long time not being ready but

nodes been out for 12

[barren shale]

i just used svelte for the new one

best framework

[hasty bane]

Web is weird

[barren shale]

svelte doesnt have server sided rendering

but i think that jsut makes it less confusing

[orchid frigate]

Ye thats why I stick to the roots

[hasty bane]

server sided rendering

sounds

really annoying

and expensive

just make the user do all the rendering

or something

[barren shale]

server sided rendering looks smoother

allows for single page applications

[hasty bane]

smoother as in

faster?