⌨coders-cave

[worn palm]

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[barren shale]

@sacred iron then clean it up >:(

[orchid frigate]

No u >:(

[wet girder]

I hate doing css for professional looking websites

I've only done css for the navigation and I already have 33 lines of css

and every single line of css takes minimum of 5 minutes

Cascading Style Sheets

basically the language used to tell website how it should look

[orchid frigate]

Sounds familiar

@knotty root Yoooo YesVeryNice🍤

Good

Trying to fix a stupid bug that makes 0 sense

Hbu

You think?

Ehy

Ehy*

Whya*

Hy*

WHY*

Hoa*

Hows*

How

School and programming dont go together unless you are in a school fir programming

You can balance them out

Some time for programming some time for school

I do that

And i get... mediocre grades

Programming is cool because you can screw around with the computers and annoy your IT teacher

We were learning about drivers and she asked "has anyone downloaded a driver before?" I felt cool and said "I have downloaded and written a driver" she still hates me lol

I almost broke her os once she really doesn't want me to use a computer

Eh

She will know I did it

And the principal is pretty bad so she will like expell me

Haydot

Learn fast?

Fastest way I know it:

Think of something you want to do

In programming

like make a game

A website

Whatever

Dream high if you want and think of something amazing you want to do

Html is really boring yea

Anyway

So start a project of that thing

Lets say...

A game

If you wanna make a game

Go to unity

Create a project

And start programming

Whenever you get stuck search the internet

Thats how I learned

..why

Bo

No*

Thats bad

Very bad

You cannot learn programming by yourself

There are things you cannot learn all by yourself

This is how you get stuck

By refusing to accept help

Remember accepting help is not a sign of weakness but a sign of strength

You gotta know how to use help

Dont just copy paste the code you saw

Understand it

And write it the way it works for you

Thats how you learn

Otherwise you are wasting your time

All python devs do

Python doesn't use many brackets so switching from python to a c-like language is sometimes annoying

Its not really about learning

Its about practice

And experience

Experience is the most important thing

The only way to get experience is by coding regularly

1.5 years of activity and two applications

Impossible to tell considering you havent showed me your skill

Idk how good you are

[clear roost]

Ку

Вы зачем на английском говорите

[tiny whale]

@clear roost здесь на английском разговаривают только

#817762451293470730 нажми там на емодзи флаг России и можешь общаться на русском в том чате #🇷🇺-русский-чат @clear roost

[main brook]

hi

[wary coral]

Hello, I would like to know which software WorldBox has been developed with Thank you.

[orchid frigate]

Hello

[orchid frigate]

Wdym by software

Os? Game engine?

Language?

[wary coral]

Langage and game engine

[wet girder]

Unity engine with C#

[wary coral]

OK thanks

[wet girder]

HOLY SHIT. I tried to fall asleep and just realized how to fix a bug that's been annoying me and stressing me the whole day

[hasty bane]

based

[orchid frigate]

Thats very pog when it happens

[orchid frigate]

@knotty root im randomly.gonna ping you here for no reason what so ever

[burnt mural]

Lol

[hollow crane]

Lol

[hoary hound]

That's usually how it works, or during bathroom breaks

I go for a walk sometimes, that works too

You just need to take your mind off the problem

[half warren]

⚠ Warned ЖАБА - ТЕЛЕВЕДУЩИЙ#5517

[orchid frigate]

I have been fighting the same bug for 4 days

Its like a corruption because it only appears in some conditions, and in the next few runs, boom

it appears in completely different conditions

its like trying to solve a rubik's cube who's walls turn different colors every 10 seconds

[orchid frigate]

Also

Just tried wine with wb

Its running... surprisingly smoothly

I thought wine was completely shit but its not bad

[main brook]

i found out this thing called

celery

sounds cool

[exotic vessel]

Ah yes... The nerd cave

[floral crystal]

Tf in gods nerdy ass channel is this...

[fair oriole]

Hello fellow coders~ UwU
I would like to say that our midnight sleepy time sleep over -wo will be held this Friday 🥰 see you all there nya!~ oxoxo

Ps- don't forget to bring your coding knee rainbow high socks because it's going to get freaky 😳😳😳

[bold rover]

No one is a Femboy here if you're interested

[hasty bane]

that's what you want to think

everyone who enters coders cave automatically receives a crate of programmer socks

[barren shale]

why would you use wine

worldbox is out on steam

[orchid frigate]

Because proton sucks

Every game I run on proton either doesn't run or runs with 100+ graphical glitches

[orchid frigate]

Good morning unemployed dave

Pleasure to see you here as always

[orchid frigate]

I understood 20% only of what I just read

[hoary hound]

Programmer socks
https://www.reddit.com/r/ProgrammerHumor/comments/m65v85/why_are_c_programmers_like_this/

[wet girder]

I've had 0 problems with proton

are you sure you're using the right version for each game

proton is mostly wine anyway so it should as well if not better than wine

[wet girder]

But worldbox has native linux support

why tf would you use wine

[orchid frigate]

It does?!

I have had a shit time with unity games so I just figured unity doesn't work on Linux

[orchid frigate]

50% of my steam library doesn't run on proton

Im gonna buy rust today

[wet girder]

it does but I think it's quite hard to port games to linux

[wet girder]

have you looked at protondb for them?

[orchid frigate]

Yea some of them have... questionable reviews

But like every game on protondb is a 50/50 in terms of reviews

it runs but with a catch

It maybe I just play the most windows based titles

[wet girder]

you just have to mess with what version of proton you're using but I can assure that proton will be good as Valve is working on it more than they've ever worked on anything as that will determine success of steam deck

[orchid frigate]

Yea valve is great

I heard about their linux support

All their games work flawlessly

But rip all battleeye games

[wet girder]

I'm pretty sure the only reason steam deck runs on arch is because valve wanted an excuse to work on Linux support

[orchid frigate]

Arch

Arch is great for now

[wet girder]

well they got easy anticheat to work with proton so they will get that working too for sure

[orchid frigate]

Eac is.... questionable

It works on some games but not well from what I heard

[wet girder]

funny thing is that easy anticheat has native linux support but no games just use it

[orchid frigate]

And r6 doesnt have ut 😔

[wet girder]

It's garbage

better than vac atleast

well all anticheats are garbage

it's impossible to make nongarbage one

[orchid frigate]

People will always find a way to cheat

It just slows down the process

Csgo for some reason randomly crashes the entire fucking pc for some reason

To the point I need to cold reboot

And dmesg is useless sometimes

[wet girder]

linux support for it breaks time to time

[orchid frigate]

Other then that linux has been pretty nice for now...and I forgot to buy a usb fuck

I have 10gb in my root folder

[wet girder]

well I gotta go make this fuckin website but if you ever wanna play cs just ping or dm me as I've been grinding it a bit

[orchid frigate]

Ok i just started playing...again

I did play before but I never took it seriously

[wet girder]

I try to get global elite with one of my irl friends

[orchid frigate]

Nor will I ever take it seriously most likely i just play for fun

[wet girder]

we take it way too seriously lmao

[orchid frigate]

I used to do that in rl lmao it was great

[wet girder]

We're both gn 1 now but I've only played like 180 hours so I'd say that's pretty decent

[wet girder]

It's very fun but also very frustrating

[orchid frigate]

I once played rl with a friend who was worse then me but he grinded the game like he was a pro we played a tournament and the entire time I threw he was so angry it was great

[wet girder]

lmao

[orchid frigate]

Anyway ima go now because ite called and im walking in a whit ton of snow

[wet girder]

cya

For some fucking reason my school expected me to create responsive and professional looking website in 4 hours

I'm 1/3 done if we don't account for responsiveness and I've used like 6 hours so far

nothing is responsive yet and making everything responsive will take like 20 hours

so finishing will take probably around 32 hours of my holidays

plus make my nights sleepless because of stress

[hoary hound]

what are you using to make the website?

like, any framework?

[wet girder]

We're allowed to use HTML5, CSS3, JS and PHP

nothing else

[hoary hound]

bruh

[wet girder]

because it's for a fucking competition

[wet girder]

bruh indeed

if I would've been allowed to use react and bootstrap I'd be done already probably

[hoary hound]

making a professional looking website without any framework lmao, that's a suicide mission

[hoary hound]

indeed

[wet girder]

Well mostly for my sanity

the website looks good on my pc atleast

[hoary hound]

let's just hope different resolutions don't fuck up everything

[wet girder]

it also has 173 lines of css and I hate css

[orchid frigate]

I dont get why they do that

Wouldnt in a real job you be able to use anything?

As long as it works

[wet girder]

well kinda

sometimes you need to use a framework the company is already using

[hoary hound]

I mean in school they made us make websites with only html, css, js and php, but they were very basic, and the teachers were mostly interested about the website working rather than looking professional

[orchid frigate]

Ah makes sense then

[orchid frigate]

This is why I dont enter coding competitions

[hoary hound]

that's true, but at least they use a framework

[wet girder]

yep lmao

[hoary hound]

tbh I don't feel confident enough to enter coding competitions, also I don't have a lot of spare time soo

[orchid frigate]

1. I cant make websites for shit because i have never used html nor anything for web development
2. Its not productive and there is obviously.going to always be that kid who just copied all the code from some github repository

[wet girder]

I entered through school so school has to make me time for this plus I get treated like an important person by my school because I am representing the school in this competition

[hoary hound]

I mean I too participated in a hackaton thanks to my school, heck I even won a 100 € amazon gift card, but I don't think I'd be able to do it on my own

[wet girder]

fair enough

I have to make this now

for fucks sake this is becoming ridicilous

how tf do I do this

[orchid frigate]

Do you have to participate

[hoary hound]

lorem ipsum

tf is latin doing there

[orchid frigate]

If you dont have to you obviously dont like it so why participate

[wet girder]

Kinda hard to stop now

[wet girder]

well my teacher kinda forced me because I am the top student in my class but I also didn't really want to say no

I didn't think I wouldn't be allowed to use frameworks

[orchid frigate]

I have been there

But I always say no

And all my teachers hate me for it

[wet girder]

it's just placeholder text

[hoary hound]

oh

[wet girder]

I have like 6 word documents of text that needs to be in the website

plus 20 images

and 2 wireframes of the website

[orchid frigate]

Whats a wireframe

[hoary hound]

sounds like a lot of boring code to write

[wet girder]

exactly

[wet girder]

it's basically just like example of how stuff should be arranged in a website

"A wireframe is a layout of a web page that demonstrates what interface elements will exist on key pages."

[orchid frigate]

Ah

So a design thing

[wet girder]

ye

there's also a design guide for the website

that tells fonts and colors and such

1 third of the points are given by how well you followed the wireframe and design guide

[orchid frigate]

I really hope I dont need to learn web development at one point because it seems complex as shit

[wet girder]

Everything is

But front end web development is just not fun

[orchid frigate]

Atleast at low level the most complex thing are hexadecimal values being...stupid

[wet girder]

or well any front end development is rarely fun

[wet girder]

In front end development it is people wanting completely stupid things

[orchid frigate]

did you know that 0x50 != 50?!? Why?!?? Noone fucking knows!!! :)

[wet girder]

lmao

[orchid frigate]

And the os dev wiki is....i dont wanna say garbage but its not good

Outdated af and rushed

It also explains everything you do this code why? Because I said so afterwords to build a cross compiler you gotta run these very specific sketchy af commands which fuck up your compiler and maybe os! Gl with finding these commands tho lol ;)

[hoary hound]

well that's because hexdecimal values are not the same as decimal, right?

[orchid frigate]

Yea its like kinda complicated because 0x00 may or may not be different then 0x0

[hoary hound]

like 10 in hex should be A

iirc

[hoary hound]

what

[orchid frigate]

A-10
B-11
...
F-16

[orchid frigate]

It may also just be a byte thing

Because 0x00 is a single byte

While 0x0 is... technically half a byte

[orchid frigate]

Fuck proton is letting me down again

Rust keeps crashing

[wet girder]

change proton versions

[orchid frigate]

nah they removed linux support two years ago

guess I will need to dual boot windows afterall

[lapis flint]

[fierce epoch]

i just dont find any good documentation about it thats it lol

[lapis flint]

so there is two docs

mongosh which is just default shell

and driver

it is different for each language

you need to find your language driver docs

[fierce epoch]

also

you see when you do this :

[lapis flint]

what

i dont use schemas

[fierce epoch]

what do u use then

[lapis flint]

ok, we have db object, right?

[fierce epoch]

hmm

[lapis flint]

then you jsut use

db.collection("name of collection").find({id: "this is id"})

for example

to set

so

wait

you need js docs, right?

[fierce epoch]

wait wait

for speciesbox for example, someones gold -, you will store it as a JSON wont you ?

or BSON

[lapis flint]

Yes, but

[lapis flint]

the same

but you using schemas

i think it is for define

how db should looks like

https://docs.mongodb.com/drivers/node/current/quick-start/

start from this page

if you are

on node js

this is for you

this is api https://mongodb.github.io/node-mongodb-native/4.1/

ask anything

[fierce epoch]

from now on, i was connecting my bot in my index file through this to the db

[lapis flint]

oh mongoose

never used

it is not just mongo db

it is wraper on mongo db

you need to search for mongoose docs

it is absolutely different

[fierce epoch]

you just use mongo db ?

[lapis flint]

Yes

server

and driver

defaults

[fierce epoch]

ok

and you're hosting the bot on a tier server

[lapis flint]

wdym tier server

its just windows server

like default windows

but not on my pc

[fierce epoch]

rasperry ?

[lapis flint]

on hosting

[lapis flint]

just host

[fierce epoch]

k

thanks bro, may i ask u for some stuff if im stuck stepbro ?

[lapis flint]

Yes

[fierce epoch]

is this what the documentations calls a document ?

[lapis flint]

Yes

document is one item in collection

[lapis flint]

So how its going?

[fierce epoch]

uh i successfully did a command to create a user with given arguments in a slash command

[lapis flint]

Good!

[fierce epoch]

but now im strugguling with a weird error that has nothing to do with mongo

i think atleast

[lapis flint]

what

what is the error?

[fierce epoch]

i have a js script that push all commands to my main

deploy-commands.js

[lapis flint]

so its described

[fierce epoch]

String value did not match validation regular expression

[barren shale]

https://tenor.com/view/fbi-calling-tom-gif-12699976

[hoary hound]

[wet girder]

how tf do you make website responsive without creating 2 versions of it

My website breaks completely on phone and I just can't figure how tf it is even possible to make it work without spending as much time on it as I did on getting it working on pc and laptop

[orchid frigate]

Have you tried googling

Im sure the internet has 1000 stuff for frontend

[wet girder]

There is million answers and none go hand to hand with eachother

everyone seems to have different opinions

[orchid frigate]

I would just go with the top answer and try it

Or try different stuff until it works

[wet girder]

I have 135 lines of HTML and 205 lines of CSS, it's not that easy with this codebase

and I am still finishing one of the things before I really start working on responsiveness

so both will probably get around 20-40 lines more

[orchid frigate]

Frontend seems like the worst thing ever

[wet girder]

yes

absolutely

I fucking hate front end

[orchid frigate]

But I wanted to ask werent you learning hacking

[wet girder]

I will never do this shit again

[orchid frigate]

Because i have been kinda interested reasently

[wet girder]

well yes but I don't have time

I can give you some materials tho

but only in dms

[orchid frigate]

Ok that would be pretty nice

[wet girder]

lemme gather all my materials

[main brook]

hello

how to code

[orchid frigate]

1. Turn on your computer
2. Turn off your computer
3. Go outside and meet friends

Im a bad good coder so I know

[main brook]

lmao

[orchid frigate]

4. Incase you cant follow step 3 due to lack of friends, follow step 5

5. Make friends by going out and meeting new people

6. Incase you are shy, you will have to put a confident mask on your self

Well I was like that before

But I realised that didn't get me anywhere

So I pretended to be confident and went out like I can beat anyone up

Made a shit ton of friends that way

People like woke people who are willing to do dumb shit

So thats exactly who I became

You dont have to become that you can just pretend you are that way

It still works

Its just harder

I understand i used to be the same way

So i suggest getting your self esteem up by...well meeting peoole

Or doing some very simple things

Like walking confidently

Making yourself look nice

Doing some small workouts from time to time

But anyway

So how is programming going

Have you learned new stuff

Take it slow

Learning programming is really difficult at first so its not going to take little time

Its mainly good for game dev in unity

So i HIGHLY suggest you learn that

And also get yourself used to a terminal

You might have to use it at some point

Which tutorial

If its a really long 4 hour one I dont suggest you finish it

They are good for learning the basics sure but sometimes they are...way too much info all at once

Its really difficult to get a grasp of everything and remember what you saw

[hasty bane]

I've heard smth along the lines of css being annoying to get to work on everything

[wet girder]

that is for sure correct

css is always annoying tho

[hasty bane]

rip

[wet girder]

I have 215 lines of css just for main page and it'll double after the website has been made responsive

you need way too much css

and writing css is a nightmare

none of it makes any sense

[hasty bane]

you're not allowed to use stuff like reactjs, right

[orchid frigate]

I hope css isnt worse to write then makefiles

I swear they are more complicated then the program they run

[wet girder]

if I was I would not be complaining constantly lmao

[hasty bane]

Sucks

[wet girder]

I forgot my spotify audio on this but wtf is this

wtf obs

now

I hate front end web development

[fierce sedge]

XD this is what i felt when started to code frontend

[orchid frigate]

As a low level dev I have never felt this

But im sure its bad

[knotty root]

ddd

[quick belfry]

time for me to make worldbox mods

[quaint halo]

Hey smart people i need help

Do you guys no how python requests work

[umbral forum]

This channel is so inactive the last message was a year ago

[barren shale]

you shouldnt learn programming like other things

you wont remember anything if you do it that way

the best way to learn programming

is to program things

and use google

why would you learn how to do math fast when you have a calculator

why would you remember everything when you have a book that has everything

programming isnt learning languages or remembering syntax

its all about the way you think about problem solving

and knowing how to find stuff on google

[orchid frigate]

^that

[main brook]

nice dad joke

[main brook]

yes

i know how it works

but im not smart

[knotty root]

What should I do with a virtual server

[hoary hound]

Host something

[knotty root]

...

[lapis flint]

@fierce epoch

imagine

you have array with embeds

[fierce epoch]

what, image ?

[tiny whale]

Imagine

He meant

[fierce epoch]

wait maybe with an interaction create

hmm

[lapis flint]

pressing next button = index + 1
pressing previous button = index - 1
limited by 0 and arrayLength - 1
Then you just attach to message embedsArray[index]

[orchid frigate]

What language

[lapis flint]

js

[orchid frigate]

Idk js

[lapis flint]

no need

button collector

[fierce epoch]

i dont want to use a collector

[lapis flint]

just button collector

[lapis flint]

??

this is made exactly for this things

[lapis flint]

why?

[fierce epoch]

its destroying my brain

[lapis flint]

No, collectors are ok

[hoary hound]

what are collectors?

like arrays?

lists?

[orchid frigate]

I assume they collect input and handle it

[crystal zinc]

Nerd cave

[knotty root]

Is this were the mods go?

[barren shale]

JavaScript more like easyscript

[barren shale]

Hi

[tropic dagger]

It's more of this

Programming is just a measure of one's ability to use Google.

[main brook]

its really

unnecessary

and most of the times

you don't do list(range(x))

unless you really need it

[loud kelp]

maybe
<p> hello world </p>

that would work

[barren shale]

Random random = new Random();
int randomInt = random.Next(0, 10) // Random int between 0 (inclusive) and 10 (exclusive)

[hushed lark]

this is way too true

[orchid frigate]

I have started to learn reverse engineering and

Its insanely fun

But really difficult

[barren shale]

oh so you already changed

?

[foggy beacon]

wait

Fuck I'm tiredd

Sorry

Scratch that

[barren shale]

k

[foggy beacon]

I'm just used to calling it with a var and not typing it like calling a class lol

I'm stupid

[barren shale]

yeah

that's just preference

i prefer using the type

[silk cargo]

hey, Im trying to spawn a human on click but I don't really get which function to use for that.. Anyone knows?

need to get a pStatsID of it but cant find it 😅

[barren shale]

@silk cargo #🔧modding-talk

[silk cargo]

Oh Thanks 🙂

[orchid frigate]

I fucking knew you were gonna say that but I came prepared

The knowledge I got from os development is helping me a ton with this

Like makefiles, assembly, c and the terminal

[barren shale]

doesnt mean that you didnt change

[orchid frigate]

Ok yes I did change

Or not

I still work on the thing

But I use it for learning

[barren shale]

id give this another month

[orchid frigate]

Nah

More like

29 days

[potent knoll]

Use-tradeiditor command

[fierce epoch]

It’s some function that wait a certain time for a specified interaction UwU

[main brook]

wait

are you like

why not use

a custom wrapper over the function needed

or something

like

i just make a waitFor()

in the Client

that literally listens to an event once

and return the args

[proud spruce]

@main brook Nice Pfp 👏

[main brook]

thanks

uwu

[hoary hound]

ok I was completely off track lol

[main brook]

isnt it actually a class

like

MessageCollector

[orchid frigate]

Alriiight I got myself a usb

Time to... I dont know what I wanna do

[bold rover]

Save things

[orchid frigate]

I kinda want to dual boot windows and either arch or kali but....

Idk I could also do windows on a vm

Is windows for gaming on a vm worth it?

[bold rover]

Depends

[orchid frigate]

On?

Ok well already read about it

Fuck no

Im dual booting windows

[wet girder]

if you have a good pc and good knowledge how to create VMs for that purpose it's negligible. Some people use VMs to share a CPU for multiple users and it works great if done correctly but doing it correctly is a profession on its own

[wet girder]

yeah that's way more doable

[wet girder]

I should get few usb sticks myself. I only have one with bootable windows 10 on it and I don't really want to change it's content

[orchid frigate]

Usbs are more expensive then I remember

I got this one for 25 bucks which considering the fact I make 21 bucks a month from school money is a shit ton

Also can we all agree using the word bucks is really cool

It doesn't specify a currency rather it just talks about money

[orchid frigate]

Windows just warned me about their own program (office) trying to put itself on the taskbar....

You never change windows

[knotty root]

!work

$work

a

[grave sluice]

hi guys I’m 100% a programmer look 1010101001110010101100101011

My latest game code

:)

I don’t even know how to use scratch OMEGALUL

[orchid frigate]

I dont know how to use scratch either

Never used it

But it seems like an amazing way for people to learn the very basic thinking of game development and programming

[hollow bronze]

I wouldn't say you should learn programming one way or another, simply do it the way you learn from the best. The way you learn from programming can be applied to lots of other subjects that are learnt differently, of which some people do great in and others do not. It's a person to person thing.

(bit of a late reply but I was scrolling)

[wet girder]

That's really an amazing way to say it. Which reminds me we should maybe have pins with stuff related to programming that most people coming to this channel could find useful just like explaining how to learn programming

[barren shale]

we are very similar in the way we learn, you learn math by solving problems not by memorizing formulas and equations, and its the same way for programming, what i've seen is that people focus on syntax and learning libraries way too much than they focus on their mindset and solving problems and that's a bad way to learn and it explains why the programming market is full, but its not full of good programmers.

[orchid frigate]

Only problem is

Actually not here

[dusky wasp]

Wtf

[orchid frigate]

I agree 👍

[dusky wasp]

Ok bruh

[orchid frigate]

Ok bruh

[dusky wasp]

Ok bruh

[cloud solar]

who of u knows unity?

just curious

[hollow bronze]

The way we learned math in hs at least in mine was memorizing formulas and tricks and then using them to solve problems. This worked great for some people and they did really well and others struggled. I personally didn't like learning that way but some people did.

So the way people learn things best are inherently different for some people at least that's my belief.

[barren shale]

if you memorize formulas in math you will do very badly on an exam, i dont know at what level your math is but high level math is like that

its always practice

[hollow bronze]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

worked for others, was taught the same way into higher maths

I should note that doing the same problems about 700x over was also done

be the equivalent of doing slightly different versions of the same calculator app about 700 times

experience and practice is universal, the way you do that best is different per person is what I'm saying

At this point I don't even know where the argument is anymore so I'm just going to stop lul

A neat VQGAN python setup if anyone is interested: https://github.com/nerdyrodent/VQGAN-CLIP

basically AI generated images from text prompts (that you can run locally if you wanted)

"Coder's Cave"

[knotty root]

:v

[hollow bronze]

"A world shaped like a box"

good article read for it:
https://alexasteinbruck.medium.com/vqgan-clip-how-does-it-work-210a5dca5e52

[main brook]

enlo

how to

program

help pls

also

how the fuck does websocket do the framing

and does sending a socket data concurrently

make like uhm

race condition

like where packets are somewhat

abaaabbababbb

instead of aaaaaabbbbbbb

[bold rover]

Diffusion model is the new trend

you've heard of it?

(Less resource demanding)

Im to tired to give details, Just look up

https://github.com/crowsonkb/v-diffusion-pytorch

Setting them up locally is your own gamble

Rest now,You guy's take care

[hollow bronze]

ah I haven't heard

who is EleutherAI if you know

or rather have you heard of them before? I've come across a few of their things will searching around

the vqgan project I posted I was introduced to months ago I haven't looked into the ai gen stuff since though

[hollow bronze]

Doesn't look too terrible at least compared to other installations I've done with ai stuff

[edgy wraith]

Hey,I am new here ....

[noble plank]

super idol

[main brook]

de xiaorong

[main brook]

im here to state

socket.io is better than using websocket directly

it also uses an

events

instead of handling messages directly

which is nice

[mystic holly]

Is 50 normal price for a 500mb usb stick or am I getting scammed?

[hoary hound]

bruh wtf 500mb usb?

they still exist?

[hoary hound]

you can get a 128 GB usb for as little as 20 euros, you are 100% getting scammed there bud

[mystic holly]

Sorry I ment 500gb

[hoary hound]

oh

well

[mystic holly]

Is that fake

[hoary hound]

price range on amazon is 40-50 euros so I guess it's a fair price

[mystic holly]

Ok I might buy it

[plucky solar]

hi guys, i just started coding, and im intrested in javascript, any tips or advices?

[orchid frigate]

Thats almost enough to fit a single bootloader

Almost

[orchid frigate]

Yea give yourself time

[plucky solar]

wdym

[orchid frigate]

Dont expect to be understanding everything in the first 2 months what matters most in them is to get the thinking of a programmer

And get the basics of the language and its syntaxv

Learning your first language is brutally difficult sometimes

[plucky solar]

oh

well i guess i can do it?

[orchid frigate]

Anyone can learn programming if they put in the time and effort

And want to learn

[plucky solar]

can i send u some code i made using html? (if there are some words in italian sorry)

[orchid frigate]

I dont understand html sorry

[plucky solar]

im sure i can

[orchid frigate]

I mainly do stuff in the c languages and rust

[plucky solar]

oh ok

[orchid frigate]

There are a handful of web devs here tho so when they come online you can ask them dor anything you need

Remember getting help is not a sign of weakness but a sign of strength...god I wish I knew that when I first started

[plucky solar]

i will remember this, tks

[orchid frigate]

Np

Have fun in your coding...sessions

[plucky solar]

oh, one last thing

[plucky solar]

i sure will

[orchid frigate]

Yea?

[plucky solar]

the html thing i made is the web page for my yt channel

how do i publish that

[orchid frigate]

Ok ok wait

Before we.continue I just wanna remind you to be careful with advertising

Accidental ads have happened before

But anyway

[plucky solar]

wdym

[orchid frigate]

Honestly idk haven't published any videos on yt

[plucky solar]

not the video

the html thing

[orchid frigate]

Like you accidentally advertise your channel and...yea

[plucky solar]

ohhhh

the bit of code i made, i want it to be so that everyona can see it (sorry 4 the bad english)

[orchid frigate]

So you want to host your website (im definitely getting the terminology wrong)

Idk how to do it I never did web development but I think you gotta pay someone to host it on a server

[plucky solar]

oh

so i can't have the link if i dont pay?

[orchid frigate]

Idk honestly

I think you can but i have no idea

Im awful with anything web

[plucky solar]

cuz until 2016 u can do it with google drive

free

but now i have to search

[orchid frigate]

Ok we need a web expert here uhhh

Lemme check who's online

Actually I have a better idea

Search online

It has everything you could ever ask for for web development

Because its so insanely popular nowadays unlike...some other parts of development

And programming

Which are no longer popular which makes me sad but nevertheless

[plucky solar]

ok tks

[orchid frigate]

I didn't really help much but np

[plucky solar]

trust me, u helped a lot

on google there is nothing bout my problem

i keep searching

[orchid frigate]

Search "how to host my own website"

I got a few interesting results

[plucky solar]

there are a few sites that allows u 2 do that, but im not sure opening random websites

especially for free stuff

[slate lake]

Step 1: learn HTML and maybe javascript and css too

Step 2: make a website In html

Step 3:???

Step 4: profit

[plucky solar]

i dont know how to make a website

[slate lake]

You can use a website called w3schools to make a website and then learn HTML somewhere

If you don't want to make a website by coding, you can search website makers with no coding

[wet girder]

I can take a look at it if you want. I've been working on a website for few weeks so html, css and js are kinda burned to my brain at this point

[wet girder]

I'd not make a website in w3schools, I personally just use it to learn and check some syntax stuff. Programming websites in visual studio code is definetly the way I'd recommend

[plucky solar]

yeah, can i dm u the code? (it's made from a beginner, its not great)

[wet girder]

Ye ofc

[wet girder]

GitHub has free hosting as far as I'm aware, you could try that but it's kinda hard to find reliable free hosting

[plucky solar]

imma try that

how can i share the code

(its on notepad++)

[slate lake]

Ik that web development is also possible with python but i've tried it and it's 10x Harder than with html so i don't recommend using python for web development

[wet girder]

Thing with web development is that it's very confusing to get started with you hear people having so many different opinions. I'd personally recommend first getting an idea how html, css and JavaScript work but quickly change to frameworks like react or angular. I can give tips like this but telling exactly what to learn and when you should google that

[wet girder]

you can only do backend with python

html is just for front end

[slate lake]

Ok

[wet girder]

so is css and plain JavaScript

[wet girder]

you can just send the file

[plucky solar]

oh yeah

[slate lake]

Anyway i'm gonna go continue learn C#

Kinda hard but i'm starting to get the hang of it

[plucky solar]

done

[wet girder]

Normal looking html, nothing more to say really as HTML is just putting elements in a list basically

[plucky solar]

yeah

i was thinking to add a prompt

to know what to do next

do u know how to make something i can click to open the prompt?

[wet girder]

Uhhh, there might be something in js. I've never used anything like that though

[plucky solar]

if not i can just make a normal prompt

but how do i see the answers?

[wet girder]

You can try looking in w3school or mozillas documentation. I don't honestly remember at all

[plucky solar]

ok

yks

tks

[main brook]

don't do discordjs

that's my first advice

and don't jump into big projects

ive read your conversation seems like you're on the vanilla javascript (or the javascript that runs on the browser)

id suggest not use frameworks or libraries like react, angular, vue yet

and patience

[main brook]

they have a static file host

it support folders as routes

if it has a index.html

[main brook]

great news jupe

remember django

well they made a frontend python

iirc

like

its called "unicorn"

[main brook]

there's the

alert() and prompt()

prompt() returns null | false | true

[main brook]

mozilla is good for intermediate since their documentation is more verbose

i feel like newbies would literally die after seeing a glimpse of it

unless they're proficient

[tropic dagger]

Nah it'll be fine.

[main brook]

you sure?

[tropic dagger]

Yeah it'll be fine.

I've read Mozilla documentation. It's verbose but if you know English well then you can figure it out, just like most things that are verbose.

And if you need to you can also research anything you don't understand that Mozilla mentions in their docs.

And their docs just make more sense to me than the more simplified docs.

It's better to have a deeper understanding of something than to just know how to use it for one purpose.

[orchid frigate]

I would humbly like to disagree

[main brook]

oki

i would suggest that since like

beginners would either give up

easily

or like

be super clueless

if they managed to know the core of something

and they understand it

not as in

understand it completely

[orchid frigate]

Starting something real can be great as it puts you in a real environment imo

Insanely difficult yes

[main brook]

yes i do agree on that

[orchid frigate]

But its an.... accelerated way to learn

[main brook]

basically

hitting yourself with a bat

getting stronger through it

because you experienced it everytime

instead of training yourself to take a hit with a bat

its sometimes good sometimes bad

depending on the person ability to learn

[orchid frigate]

I think it also matters what you expect from a big project

Because when you are learning actually finishing a project shouldn't be something.... important

You will most likely get like 20% done before all the learning and developing slowly becomes painfully slow in terms of projects and boring so you wanna switch which now that I think about it isnt the greatest thing in the world

Yea this type of learning has its flaws now that I think about it

Also lil tip which I found quite useful

Visualizing your code is quite useful

[knotty root]

What is the best language to create advanced ai

[orchid frigate]

Like literally drawing it on paper (of course not actually writing it, in a more visually pleasing way)

[orchid frigate]

Uhhhh idk I know python is good

[knotty root]

na it is not good for my project

i was thinking of c++ or java

[orchid frigate]

You can pretty much do that with any language if you are willing to put in a couple of hundred hours of reading

[knotty root]

ya true

but i want a fast llanguage

I might use javascript to create the bot and show its answers with a nice looking website

[knotty root]

reading?

Its not hard to learn a language

The only language I found a bit complicated was java at the start but now i understand a lot

[white pebble]

Hi programmers, i wanna know which language everyone suggest me to learn, python? Or c++? Javascript? Let me know. I saw many people suggest python.

[orchid frigate]

As a first language? C#

Definitely nfor me

A harder first language but worth it

[orchid frigate]

Nothing is hard if you know how to read its documentation

And put in some time

[knotty root]

na

thats not a good idea

I'd recommend something with a common syntax but more simple

[knotty root]

I would recommend javascript or C++

I would never Recommend Python or Lua

Not only their syntax is completely different than the rest but slow Also what is the point of learning lua if u cant embed it

[white pebble]

I see, heard that python has simple but different structure than others and slow at executing

Ok thanks! You made my day!

[knotty root]

np also c++ is harder to learn than javascript btw but learning c++ will give you an underrstanding to c# java and C

[main brook]

lua is supposed to be embeddable

[main brook]

not really slow

depends on your use case

if you really

need speed

don't use interpreted language

python and javascript are both good

for first time

the point of programming is problem solving

if you learnt python or javascript

both will have the same fundemental when doing something

like for example

add an element to the end of an array

my_list.append(1)

arr.push(1)

both have different methods but its literally the same, add an element to the end of an array/list

learning harder language first is like

learning to solve french quiz

right after starting to learn french

you don't know shit

sure you'll get the hang of it

if it works for you then go ahead

[knotty root]

iit is slow if u compare it to c++ or javascript

ya

[main brook]

c++ is compiled

[knotty root]

i know lua and python

ya

[main brook]

to machine code

[knotty root]

ya

[main brook]

what do you expect

[knotty root]

a lot

[white pebble]

I see, thank you for good advise and yes, point at learning something is at consistent, not learning in short term

[main brook]

also try experimenting

try different variants

languages

and see which one fits

we all learn differently of course

[knotty root]

ya but

in reality

c++ and javascrpt would be better

although lua is made for embedding

[main brook]

lua is not mainly for that

i think

[knotty root]

iit is mainly for that

[main brook]

its an embeddable language

[knotty root]

its an embedding language

no no

its mainly for embedding

[main brook]

ah designed for it

oki

[knotty root]

ya

[main brook]

its small but also sucks

you can't do complex computation

either way

c++ and javascript are good in a different fields

for now we don't know how are they learning language and which one are they proficient in

there's a list of beginner language

a list

which you can pick

[knotty root]

no it doesnt suck

lua is legit an amazing language

github uses lua a lot

[main brook]

yeah sure for you not for me

not a fan of it

[knotty root]

because u dont know how to use it pfft

[main brook]

okay?

[knotty root]

because it was designed for embedding

[main brook]

i do know how to use it

for your information

[knotty root]

ok

uhhh

what do u embed it with

[main brook]

and some embedded system needs complex computation in which lua isn't suitable for

[knotty root]

what

lua

[main brook]

i don't use it for embedding just generic programming

[knotty root]

o

if u dont embed then u rrlly cant say much about lua

[main brook]

i do use it as a C extensions

[knotty root]

ok

[main brook]

probably

how old are you?

[knotty root]

16

why r u asking

[main brook]

nothing, its just you're kinda annoying

but oki

[knotty root]

wat

how

[main brook]

your speech pattern sounds like 12-13 years old

[knotty root]

cause this is discord

i dont take people seriously pfft

[main brook]

watch me steal your ip address

[knotty root]

sure

i'd love to see u do that

[main brook]

i don't wanna make you happy so i don't wanna do that

you said "I'd love to see you do that"

[knotty root]

alright

[main brook]

so i don't wanna make you "love"

[knotty root]

you truly cant ip log me budd

[main brook]

i know

[knotty root]

u dont know how to decrypt anything

pfft

[main brook]

i do know how to do your dad

basically

teach him how quantum computer works

and he dies

im kidding

@wet girder do you have a copy of python 1

[knotty root]

what

ur gay?

[main brook]

i like both

but i like men mostly

because hot

[knotty root]

im against it but I wont say anything

[main brook]

you do you

[knotty root]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

whats ur past gender?

[main brook]

my what now

[knotty root]

biological gender

[main brook]

id rather not say

[knotty root]

ok

also this is coders cave pfft

[main brook]

i know

this is where caveman write code

and where haydot creates os

and where there's a person who loves C# so much

i had to block him

he also made alot of yo mama jokes

and the jupe

[knotty root]

pfft

[main brook]

and then kia

kia is awesome doe

[knotty root]

im kinda new to the server

[main brook]

welcome then

[knotty root]

so idk who kia is

[main brook]

its this person

[knotty root]

o

ok

[barren shale]

and then there's me

the best

[barren shale]

oh you already talked about me

[slate lake]

Hi

[main brook]

hi

[bold rover]

Aww

Thank you

[main brook]

no not you

i didn't block you

so

[barren shale]

https://tenor.com/view/your-mom-spy-tf2-team-fortress2-sheesh-gif-21838783

[wet girder]

he hurt your singular feeling

[wet girder]

I'd love to but I don't

I'm good thanks, hbu?

[main brook]

[wet girder]

I am still admin, I have all the same power but I just don't want to get pinged for now as I need a break

[main brook]

go on break turtle

[orchid frigate]

C# is easier c++ tho and it has the perfect syntax considering its pretty common

[plucky solar]

Thanks

[barren shale]

C# or JavaScript as a first language

two of the most used languages in the world rn

[white pebble]

I see, thank you for suggestion !

[orchid frigate]

By JavaScript do you mean c#?

[barren shale]

I mean JavaScript in C# yes

[orchid frigate]

Ummm ummmm windows 10 why tf did you set my usb as my primary partition?!?!?!

Im pretty sure I told you to NOT do that

I was wondering why it had a breakdown when I got rid of the usb

[wet girder]

lmao

[orchid frigate]

How tf do I fix this shit

I kinda need my usb as its the only one I have