#⌨coders-cave

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orchid frigate
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For me to get because x2 price in Bulgaria

hasty bane
orchid frigate
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It costs like what the school gives me for 3 months

hasty bane
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im not implying anything with that wbshy

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dont get me wrong

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modding rimworld is kinda fun ngl

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im very bad at making sprites though

orchid frigate
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Just open some pixel art software

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And spray random pixels

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Best sprites

hasty bane
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that works for testing

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though

orchid frigate
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Or make a program to randomise every pixel on screen

hasty bane
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i suppose i could make a mod that alters game behaviour

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instead of adding new items

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if you look at stuff like combat extended it's pretty big

orchid frigate
hasty bane
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basically

orchid frigate
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I got an idea but its kinda rough

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Maybe you could make extended combat

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Like new moves and stuff

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Idk how the game works but thats an option

hasty bane
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yeah you could

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i think its a weapon thing

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weapons have combat moves

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the game is very moddable

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there's a mod that lets you basically make factorio

main brook
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im mid migration

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i fucked up

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i accidentally set my shell to /bin/fish

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when its actually on /usr/bin/fish

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and it was my root user

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thankfully i can still use my bot to do shell commands and make a copy of passwd and alter the shell and then replace the original one

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syntax highlight go brrr

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okay fuck fish

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its slow as heck

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im going back to zsh

hasty bane
main brook
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but its fact

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fish sucks

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its slow resolving the commands and its arguments

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one command takes like 5s

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to resolve

hasty bane
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wow

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thats uh

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kinda bad

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lmao

main brook
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i think im good with no completion at all

main brook
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but hey what you expect

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its guessing a script file commands

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its bound to be slow without any interface

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although some lib has the

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libname-fish-completion

hasty bane
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complete the fish

main brook
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so its like an interface

main brook
hasty bane
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do not leave the fish incomplete

main brook
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i will leave the fish incomplete

hasty bane
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banned

knotty root
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Where BEANZ cave

main brook
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ffs means Fucked up FileSystem

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goodbye~

knotty root
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WHERE BEANZ CAVE

orchid frigate
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@knotty root thats not very nice nor allowed

exotic vessel
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Ah yes... The nerd cave

orchid frigate
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character development = null

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I made as many syntax errors as possible to piss some people off so that this chat lives for once

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master plan

hasty bane
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back to learning rust

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i read more about it and

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it is VERY cool

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it is gigaspeed

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which means i can implement more complex logic

main brook
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yesterday my devices suffered like

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so many times

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my phone and my rpi

hasty bane
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epic

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im gonna get myself a new phone and im gonna start coding on it

main brook
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use termux

main brook
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no

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dcoder sucks

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it runs your code on a server

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not locally

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dcoder is not customizable

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it requires internet to run

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most things don't work

hasty bane
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i tried termux on my current one

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pretty cool

main brook
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right

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you can install rust

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cargo

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and other things

hasty bane
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i think so

main brook
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although the only downside for compiled binary file

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is that you can't run them on your storage

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only inside the termux storage

hasty bane
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wbshy that's fine

main brook
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termux filesystem

main brook
hasty bane
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gonna be a bit weird

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working with rust on a phone

main brook
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not really

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its just

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its gonna take atleast 500mb

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also

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install the f-droid version

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not the playstore

orchid frigate
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This is a sad day for us 😔

Screenshot_51.png
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Ima call the entrance function Amogus

hasty bane
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this is a based day

orchid frigate
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After calling it amogus it printed mogus 😵 😵 😵 😵

hasty bane
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whaaaaaaa

orchid frigate
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jk but that would be really cool

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QEMU devs would have gain a large ammount of respect from me

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Ok well I guess its not them that do it

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but still

hasty bane
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omw to make suslang

orchid frigate
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Pt

orchid frigate
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Ima make susos in suslang

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😳

hasty bane
orchid frigate
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You just gotta make sure it has inline assembly

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and can use extern C

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and has pointers

hasty bane
orchid frigate
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dun dun dun dun dun dun dun

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when the os is sus 😳

hasty bane
orchid frigate
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and explodes your pc 😳

hasty bane
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program.sus

orchid frigate
hasty bane
orchid frigate
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attributes:
System file
Sus file (Serious Unemployed system)
When the file is sus (Serious Unemployed System)

hasty bane
orchid frigate
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Unreadable unwritable

hasty bane
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Suspiciously Unpleasant Sysfile

orchid frigate
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Suspiciously Unpleasant Susfile 😳

hasty bane
orchid frigate
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Making an OS is great

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you can do stuff like this

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while writing the most unreadable code ever

orchid frigate
hasty bane
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imagine a virus written in amogus memes

orchid frigate
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Written in SUSlang 😳

hasty bane
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vent Maintenance() {
press_red_button("sus");
}

orchid frigate
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OMG I WILL CALL THE ENTRANCE FILE VENT

hasty bane
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replace void with vent

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or eject

orchid frigate
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When the bootloader and kernel are sus

orchid frigate
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😔

hasty bane
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sad

orchid frigate
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Lets make a poll
Amogus or vent for entrance file

hasty bane
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wbshy for amogus attractive for vent

orchid frigate
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I cant decide

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its too good

hasty bane
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i like vent

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but amogus is also nice

orchid frigate
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vent it is

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lemme edit the kernel.asm file

hasty bane
orchid frigate
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I would like to see the current AmogOS have this as their main kernel function

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I know for a fact they dont

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because they are on Linux

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Pre made kernel

hasty bane
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🤔

orchid frigate
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you know what too tired to make a kernel rn

hasty bane
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understandable

orchid frigate
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gonna implement a sussy shell for 16bit

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😳

hasty bane
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ooh

orchid frigate
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atleast thats alot easier

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Ok I lied

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I will need to rewrite the bootloader

hasty bane
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lol

orchid frigate
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to implement a shell

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maybe I can do it later

hasty bane
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smh lazy

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jk ur epic

orchid frigate
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Im in math class while writing a kernel while reading wiki hagrid

hasty bane
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based

orchid frigate
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ok why tf did I decide to write most of the bootloader completely clamped togther making this fucking unreadable

Screenshot_56.png
hasty bane
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lmfao

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gamer code

orchid frigate
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I was like "Hey this will look cool and complicated" but I never thought about the fact that

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its too complex

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I cant read 😔

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Ok I think I got it

hasty bane
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i have faith in you

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may the sus guide you

orchid frigate
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Ok yea I found where to place the shell

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Making the shell is pretty easy because BIOS is kind enough to let me use its drivers wbshy

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There is so much I could improve on the bootloader but Im so sick of looking at assembly 😔

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Its actually starting to get annoying as fuck with its incredible unreadability

hasty bane
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hmm

terse schooner
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i coded fortnite itself

orchid frigate
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I mean its useful dont give me wrong and being able to turn hexadecimal to ascii is amazing

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no other language has that

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but its...so unreadable sometimes

terse schooner
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ion know tho

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english has everything

orchid frigate
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Ok well

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I shouldnt have touched the very delicate bootloader code

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Its no longer working

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Uhhh im pretty sure I can git restore some of it...

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ah I can

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thanks git

hasty bane
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kek

orchid frigate
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fuck the 16bit shell it doesnt have to exist anyway

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the text editor is buggy af and the only other feature is halting the cpu

hasty bane
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hating the cpu*

orchid frigate
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ye

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we hating on the cpu

hasty bane
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fuckin hate this bich

unknown.png
orchid frigate
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I hate that guy cpu

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who makes the pc work

hasty bane
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horrible horrible person

orchid frigate
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and does pretty much everything by himself

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and is very important

hasty bane
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gpu: cries

orchid frigate
hasty bane
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not if you're a GAMER

orchid frigate
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My gpu rests for most of the time

hasty bane
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or a deep learning enjoyer (read as masochist)

orchid frigate
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I wonder if my pc will explode if I make a batch file which opens gta 5 constantly at max settings

hasty bane
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yea

orchid frigate
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This will kill the OS thats for sure

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especially if you put it in startup tasks

hasty bane
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gg

orchid frigate
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which hamza did with his virus on his pc

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school pc

hasty bane
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lmao

orchid frigate
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Pretty sure that has no fix

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startup tasks suck

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tell me a number from 0 to 1

hasty bane
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1

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:D

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0,69420

hasty bane
orchid frigate
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Ok I forgot what I was gonna do

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Ok do it again

hasty bane
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0.42069

orchid frigate
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so 0?

hasty bane
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yes

orchid frigate
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You picked the wrong option again...

hasty bane
orchid frigate
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Now have to stop complaining and make a kernel

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😔

hasty bane
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Aliens rust is a bit hard to learn

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for someone who only interacted with c# and python

orchid frigate
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pub fn main(){
      println!("Rust be hard");
}
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I would say its harder than C

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Because of how many features there are

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C is more... cramped together

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So using it and remembering is easier

hasty bane
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it be weird

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i do know, however, that println! is a macro because !

orchid frigate
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Ah so you are learning fast

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I had to start making an OS and implementing macros myself to know that

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I always wondered why it had to have a ! at the end

hasty bane
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the tutorial just

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goes over increasingly more difficult scripts

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while breakig them down

orchid frigate
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eh I dont recommend watching tutorials to learn it

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they usually drag things out too much

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Plus experience in the language will make you better

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So just set yourself a goal and try to finsih it, or atleast thats what I recommend

hasty bane
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i like knowing the absolute basics of a language

orchid frigate
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also a lil tip for rust strings

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There is one basic rule for both strings

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if the one doesnt work, just use the other

hasty bane
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what does that mean

orchid frigate
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There is String and &str

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String is the implemented one

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while &str is the system one

hasty bane
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system as in

orchid frigate
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I personally hate Strings so I recommend using &str

orchid frigate
hasty bane
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oH

orchid frigate
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the other is implemented by the std

hasty bane
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why not use the built-in

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ahy is there an implemented string

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if theres a builtin

orchid frigate
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2nd rule

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dont ask questions like that unless you need em to finish your code

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Otherwise you will overload on rust's questinable design

hasty bane
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ok i gotcha

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is it that bad

orchid frigate
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basically how rust works if this doesnt work, either try something else or use 10 different crates

orchid frigate
hasty bane
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isnt that most languages

orchid frigate
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its much worse rust

hasty bane
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hmm

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i need to know everything about it wbshy

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maximize efficiency

orchid frigate
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Its already efficient

hasty bane
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MORE

orchid frigate
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it has a garbage collector

hasty bane
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i want to know

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everything

orchid frigate
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well

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goodluck

hasty bane
orchid frigate
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the rust compiler is 2mil lines I think

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or more

hasty bane
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oh

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great

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hm

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well then

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i dont need to know everything

orchid frigate
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Thats what I like to hear

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understand what you need not what you...well dont need

hasty bane
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true.

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but i do want to know potentially useful details wbshy

orchid frigate
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also

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please

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please

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dont try to understand traits

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just use crates made by people who understand them

hasty bane
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I have to at least attempt

orchid frigate
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they are complex as all hell

hasty bane
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Its like decorators early on with python

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i tried

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i didnt understand but i had to try

orchid frigate
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well good luck with em

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also also also

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The rust compiler is amazing

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because it tells you EXACTLY what went wrong WHERE it went wrong and how to FIX it

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Unless you do no std stuff

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in that case it will just die itself or smt

hasty bane
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nice

orchid frigate
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also also also also

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use crates

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have I said that before?

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Idk

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But dew it

hasty bane
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yes

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i do need to use crates

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i also found what toml stands for

orchid frigate
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you can start with the random crate and see documantation

hasty bane
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i think its

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tonys obvious minimal language?

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smth like that

orchid frigate
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you can generate random everything

orchid frigate
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nice name

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and ints

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are not ints

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but is

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i16, i32, i64, i128

hasty bane
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TOML is used in a number of software projects, and is implemented in many programming languages. The name "TOML" is an acronym for "Tom's Obvious, Minimal Language" referring to its creator, Tom Preston-Werner.

hasty bane
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literally minmax the bytes

orchid frigate
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and you can take their max and min values from

fn main(){
  let num = i128::MAX;
  println!("{}", num);
}
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or min

hasty bane
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o

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so that

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prints max 128 int?

orchid frigate
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ye

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try it

hasty bane
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thats epicc

orchid frigate
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see what you will get

hasty bane
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i cant do it rn but

orchid frigate
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ok well

hasty bane
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i know its a long number

orchid frigate
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also prints are weird

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because you cant say

println!(var);
//no
println!("{}", var); //yes
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ok the second one is correct the first isnt

hasty bane
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does it always stringify

orchid frigate
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Its good at doing that

hasty bane
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or does it print it as int if the value is an int

orchid frigate
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But dont push your luck

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It sometimes doesnt

hasty bane
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so basically print is unreliable

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xddd

orchid frigate
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Everything in low level languages is unreliable

hasty bane
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understandable

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but at least they go vroom vroom.

orchid frigate
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The thing is thats not entirely true

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Print is reliable

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But if you put some random data type that was never supposed to be a string as an argument

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The compiler will ask you if you are drunk

hasty bane
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lol

orchid frigate
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Also there is like

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1000 different data types

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Wait no

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More than that

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Around 10k built in ones

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Because rust has something called

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Result

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Idk what it means or how to use it

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But its there

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Pretty sure the compiler handles all the hard work on it

hasty bane
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🤔

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isnt result like

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succeeded / not succeeded

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Result<T, E> is the type used for returning and propagating errors. It is an enum with the variants, Ok(T) , representing success and containing a value, and Err(E) , representing error and containing an error value. ... In the std crate, Result is most prominently used for I/O.

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@orchid frigate

orchid frigate
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Probably idk

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I never decided to learn it

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Also those triangle brackets

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No idea what they are either

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They are like cpp pointers for me

hasty bane
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doesn't mean anything

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i think

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if youre talking abt what i sent

orchid frigate
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I only use them when a crate asks me to use them

hasty bane
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i mean t kinda does but

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ig youre right

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just call panic when needed

orchid frigate
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Ye

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panic is great

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I also know how to implement it

hasty bane
orchid frigate
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which makes it awesome

hasty bane
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can you call it

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from anywhere

orchid frigate
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ye

hasty bane
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nice

orchid frigate
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use core::panic::PanicInfo;
#[panic_handler]
pub fn panic(info: PanicInfo) -> !{
  println!("Failed to run the program because: {}", info);
  loop{}
}
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Thats it

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the enitre code

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actually

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you can ignore the things on top

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oh wait

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jmp isnt a rust thing

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lmao

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actually in all reality

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this can really be compressed more

hasty bane
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hMmm

azure tusk
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I’m a big fan of caves not gonna lie

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That’s where most rocks are

barren shale
pearl compass
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Wath da hel

main brook
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cursed

scenic hazel
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I'm no computer expert

orchid frigate
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Im so confused as to why people come here and say that they cant code for no reason

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like you dont have to come here if thats the case

orchid frigate
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ay so I wanna call the kernel loop something kooler so do any of yall got any ideas

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I would be happy to steal them from you

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and not credit you anywhere

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thanks

hasty bane
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susloop

orchid frigate
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good name

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but not good enough

hasty bane
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sussierloop

orchid frigate
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I was gonna do Entrance but that sounds boring

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main is too overused

hasty bane
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wbshyloop

orchid frigate
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and start is...really good

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I like start the most

hasty bane
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call it FINLAND

orchid frigate
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nou

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what is a synonym to start

hasty bane
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launch

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finland

orchid frigate
orchid frigate
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nah start is superior

hasty bane
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i feel like

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making a web game engine

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instead of a game

orchid frigate
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web game engine

hasty bane
orchid frigate
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I swear I didnt know that was a thing

hasty bane
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me neither

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i have a pretty good idea for a battle system though

orchid frigate
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are you making a game

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or a game engine

hasty bane
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a game

orchid frigate
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ah cool

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whats it called

hasty bane
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wbshy i dont know

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didn't really make a name for it yet

orchid frigate
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Resnse?

hasty bane
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resnse

orchid frigate
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Rense*

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I was gonna name the OS that but I decided to not write it in Rust

hasty bane
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i had an idea about modular production

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like

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youd build a factory

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and factory would have x module slots

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and you would install, remove and swap modules

orchid frigate
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Alox

orchid frigate
hasty bane
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and the battle system would be uhh

orchid frigate
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I swear I had money I wanted to spend a few days ago on a new game but I barely found a game thats worth

hasty bane
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individual units
building into a row several lines thick

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and attacking other units based on their range etc

orchid frigate
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Ok also

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put a giant glowing tree

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in the background

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its gonna make the game beatiful

hasty bane
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  • different dmg types + airplanes!!! + actions the player can take + epic retreating if you die
knotty root
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Also hi

orchid frigate
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hi

orchid frigate
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look at this

knotty root
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Ooooo

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Cool

azure tusk
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Let’s focus more on the cave part, caves are very echoey would you say so?

sick geyser
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Hi

buoyant junco
sick geyser
orchid frigate
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no

hasty bane
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ez

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programming in a nutshell

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sees thing
damn this should be easy and simple
3 weeks later
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

flint veldt
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Ehh

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Pasen un mapa del mundo

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Banda

hasty bane
flint veldt
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Uno que está bien vrg

hasty bane
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english only here

flint veldt
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?

orchid frigate
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easy you say...

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we not gonna talk about the countless hours of development and the amazing marketing skills you must have to make any money on it?

orchid frigate
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I mean that could mean anythin

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for a more sarcastic approach I would have chosen this wbshy or this wbsmirk

wet girder
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Making money with a game requires shit ton of luck and time atleast

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Good marketing skills help too

main brook
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yes

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also not falling into a game loop

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where the game will be more p2p/p2w

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and it'll make the community quite toxic

hasty bane
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who

wet girder
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He's quite talented but I don't personally enjoy his content

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it's quite over the top

hasty bane
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yeah i dont think you can really call those production ready games

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i mean

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you can

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but its like

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indie af

orchid frigate
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Os devs: fuck no

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Stack overflow as the website has near to none stuff about os development

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And in its actually meaning

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Which is literally the stack overflowing

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Its quite dangerous

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And can cause triple fault/permanent damage to system

main brook
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that's not a tip

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thats a must

hasty bane
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lmao

orchid frigate
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Or even better

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Dont set the stack in the middle of the BIOS

hasty bane
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set it close to the edge so the motherboard isnt affected too much

orchid frigate
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Thats the only true answer

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Good job

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You have won the internet for today

hasty bane
orchid frigate
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But wait wouldn't it overflow in the hard disk/ssd

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Because memory adresses are there

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What will happen to my ssd 🧐

hasty bane
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it will become soggy state drive

orchid frigate
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Is it better than average ssd

hasty bane
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liquid state drive even

hasty bane
orchid frigate
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Actually wait

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I was wrong

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Stack overflow doesn't mean that it goes into bios

hasty bane
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the people who invented the word stack overflow

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were boring

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why didnt they name it

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unexpected stack detonation

orchid frigate
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It means too much stuff is pushed to it so everything pushed to it overflows

hasty bane
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or something

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smh

orchid frigate
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Which idk what happens afterwords

hasty bane
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Death

orchid frigate
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I think i read somewhere the cpu triple faults immediately

hasty bane
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does it actually triple fault every time there is one

orchid frigate
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Yea

hasty bane
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dam

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spooky shit

orchid frigate
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Triple faults suck tho

hasty bane
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i mean they do restart the pc

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and force you to get windows updates

orchid frigate
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Cuz like when the cpu triple faults it reboots the same os

hasty bane
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imagine

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virus

orchid frigate
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Which could be broke /malware

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So the cpu just traps itself

hasty bane
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that has no payload except triple faulting the cpu each time windows gets an update

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forced update

orchid frigate
#

Well still fixable but annoying

hasty bane
#

extremely annoying

#

wbshy better yet triple fault during updating

#

so everything dies

orchid frigate
#

Cuz you can tell bios "ay please dont like boot this os its bad"

hasty bane
#

it's bas(ed)

orchid frigate
#

So its literally just the cpu killing itself so that it doesnt have to try diving by 0

#

But now I wonder

#

If triple faults didnt exist

#

What would it do when it actually tried dividing by 0

#

Or accessing 0xfortnite

hasty bane
#

why not just

#

hard code some of the more common triple fault causes

#

to not happen

orchid frigate
#

I cant

hasty bane
#

instead of doing the triple fault

#

no i mean

#

the cpu manufacturers n stuff

orchid frigate
#

Triple faults are integrated into cpu

hasty bane
orchid frigate
hasty bane
#

yeah but like

orchid frigate
#

Uhhh

#

Make my own cpu code?

#

Uhhhh

hasty bane
#

why restart when can just
if divide by zero:
no

hasty bane
hasty bane
#

wbshy and what would happen if by pure miracle triple fault didnt happen and cpu tried to divide by zero

orchid frigate
#

Because when the cpu is booting its in 8bits at first which has a stupidly little annount of space

#

Then it goes to 16 bit

#

Then the kernel takes control

hasty bane
orchid frigate
#

Plus cpus can't really that much without integrated programs

#

Such as BIOS so the real question is why BIOS or uefi not deal with triple fault

#

And i got the answer

hasty bane
#

256
With 8 bits, the maximum number of values is 256 or 0 through 255.

#

sucks being a cpu

orchid frigate
#

The reason they dont deal with triple faults is that they cant

#

When os takes control and kernel does its stuff its in complete control over the system even if running on bios

#

Meaning BIOS doesn't know what tasks are running

#

So it has no way of stopping anything

#

And thus everything goes straight to cpu

hasty bane
#

sus

#

so basically

#

triple faults were made as a failsafe for everything to save space

orchid frigate
#

But like its quite funny because the os is literally one giant loop

orchid frigate
hasty bane
#

everything's a giant loop wbshy

orchid frigate
#

And the bios is calling that loop

#

Ok well I think I know what happens when a triple fault accurs

#

Whatever code handles the cpu it has this command

# 
on_triple_fault:
      hlt
#

Just written in binary or hexa

#

Probably

hasty bane
#

hlt is hardwired to nuke everything?

orchid frigate
#

Yep

hasty bane
#

ebin

orchid frigate
#

It completely shuts down the cpu

hasty bane
#

computer kaput

orchid frigate
#

I use it

hasty bane
#

wait

#

does it reboot

orchid frigate
#

In my os to handle disk errors "handle" and shell

#

Nope

hasty bane
#

or does it emergency shutdown

orchid frigate
#

It halts

hasty bane
#

i gotcha

orchid frigate
#

So no reboot

#

Its basically telling the cpu "Either the user is turning off his computer or something went really fucking wrong so you gotta...stop yourself from living"

hasty bane
#

die immediately

#

anyway i decided to

orchid frigate
#

Yea

hasty bane
#

switch to windows 4 rust

#

for the time being

#

attractive debian is way too uhh

#

slow to work with??

orchid frigate
#

Wait

hasty bane
#

im not used to it so it make sense

orchid frigate
#

Before you do

#

Rust is fast but not that fast

hasty bane
orchid frigate
#

Compiling does take a while

hasty bane
#

yeah that makes sense

orchid frigate
#

On windows hello world takes 2-3 seconds first time ran and around 0.25 seconds afterwords

hasty bane
#

how fast is check

#

compared to compiling

orchid frigate
#

Check? Like test?

#

Or build

hasty bane
#

wait

orchid frigate
#

Test feature of rust sucks btw

#

Everyone loves it but I hate it

#

Its too complicated for something that is easy

hasty bane
#

cargo check

#

this one

orchid frigate
#

uhhb haven't used it but im guessing what it does is it only checks the code and doesn't make an object file or whatever it compiles to

#

Probably very fast

#

0.25-0.50

#

Because the thing that takes the most time is making the object/whatever file

hasty bane
#

yeah it does not make an executable

orchid frigate
#

It might be the .lock file but I doubt

hasty bane
#

either way

orchid frigate
#

Also pro tip

hasty bane
#

that should b good

orchid frigate
#

If you hate warnings

hasty bane
#

compiled languages are like

#

op

#

right?

#

reports all errors immediately

orchid frigate
#

Yea they are all high level languages

hasty bane
#

instead of being like python

orchid frigate
#

From C to python

#

Assembled are... assembly

#

And machine code is machine code

hasty bane
orchid frigate
#

Either way if you hate warnings

#

Use this

# 
#![allow(warnings)]```
hasty bane
#

im fine with warnings

orchid frigate
#

No more compiler telling you some random function isnt using snake case

#

Or some random crate emitting a random warning about something random

hasty bane
#

hmm

orchid frigate
#

Btw the ! Marks this as global

#

Basically you can write the same without it

#

But it will only count for the thing below it

#

Now it will do it globally

hasty bane
#

hmm

#

weird

main brook
#

i did it everyone

#

i found out a way to format a coloured output

#

with python logging

#

after fucking around for like 5 hours

#

finally found how

#

after frustration

hasty bane
#

wh y

orchid frigate
hasty bane
#

still havent setup rust

#

damn you c++ build tools

orchid frigate
#

Why

#

You just download em

hasty bane
#

i swear everything microsoft makes is just cancer to set up

hasty bane
orchid frigate
#

You can download em from visual studio or the website

hasty bane
#

i have everything in russian

#

had, at least

orchid frigate
#

Руский

hasty bane
#

and the wording is completely different hagrid

#

so i ended up installing useless stuff

#

just to realize rust still didnt compile

orchid frigate
#

Are you following a tutorial

hasty bane
#

attractive all of em

#

i found one with an image

#

of what i have to download

#

so now it should b good

cunning crane
#

🍞 🍞 🍞 🍞 🍞 🍞 🍞

sweet void
hasty bane
#

yes

knotty root
#

Why have you bought me to this headache plaza

azure tusk
#

4/10 cave

#

Needs more cave

hasty bane
#

ah hello therr

#

functions

wet girder
#

Python is decent first language but the lack of "{}" and ";" make it harder to transition to other languages that have wider use cases than python. It's also missing some features due to simplification that I think are good for beginners to learn

hasty bane
#

Yeah that is true

knotty root
hasty bane
#

i figured you'd bring up the simplicity of it as an argument against it

#

double edged sword indeed

wet girder
#

C# is just amazing because it can be used for pretty much anything, is easy to learn and has ease to transition to other languages

hasty bane
#

now

#

c#

#

is hamza

#

i cant support that

knotty root
#

What's the output statement

#

🗿

hasty bane
#

learn rust instead

#

:)))

knotty root
#

What

hasty bane
#

just kidding

wet girder
knotty root
#

Shit
Almost posted 1940s Europe thing

hasty bane
#

print?

knotty root
hasty bane
#

in python?

#

print()

knotty root
#

C#

hasty bane
#

oh

#

hold on

#

I don't remember xdd

#

jupe help

wet girder
#

system.writeln();

hasty bane
#

yes that

wet girder
#

or just write

#

depending on use case

hasty bane
#

writeln is newline yes?

wet girder
#

ye

knotty root
hasty bane
knotty root
#

Thought it would be like java

wet girder
#

java is a nightmare lol

hasty bane
#

java is horrifying spooky and scary

knotty root
#

Anyway should I spend another 100 bucks on another set of classes for c#🗿

hasty bane
#

o

#

wait

hasty bane
#

if they do make you pick things up quickly

wet girder
hasty bane
#

why not

#

what jupe said p much

knotty root
hasty bane
#

there's a lot of stuff on the internet

#

just google it

knotty root
#

🗿

#

I need human interaction to learn

wet girder
#

you can just google "how to learn C#" follow some random course and learn it

hasty bane
#

alternatively you can do what haydot does and just google solutions to every problem you come across when making something

#

just make sure you don't copypaste and forget

knotty root
#

Then again only reason I got through middle school is becuase khan academy🗿

wet girder
hasty bane
#

It is

#

that's how i learn stuff usually

#

i just dive into docs or a tutorial to get the basics

wet girder
#

yep

hasty bane
#

then off to making a project and looking things up on SO

wet girder
#

I usually start a project and read docs while I'm doing the project lol

hasty bane
#

that too

#

though

#

im usually focusing on 1 thing

#

so im either writing code or reading docs

#

cant really multitask very well

knotty root
wet girder
#

Same

hasty bane
#

tbf

#

im like

#

almost failing high school

knotty root
#

Relatable

hasty bane
#

cuz i just can't learn like that
being forced to remember formulas etc

wet girder
#

Hopping straight to way different topic tho, I have classes about installing Windows on a vm tomorrow and as I've done it like a 100 times I was thinking of asking my teacher to let my try installing arch

hasty bane
#

kek

#

why do you run windows on vm
do you use linux as main?

wet girder
hasty bane
#

that's pretty normal

#

you just

wet girder
hasty bane
#

kinda have to listen

azure tusk
hasty bane
#

oh that's fair

#

virtual environment taken one step further

timid field
# 
print("Hello world")
wet girder
azure tusk
#

What about uhhhhh

#

This image

wet girder
#

agreed

hasty bane
#

yes

#

there is no more permanent solution than a temporary one

#

(but the slowdown is also permanent)

timid field
# 
If amongus == sus then
imposter:KickPlayer()
end
knotty root
#

I remember when we post hacka memes here

wet girder
azure tusk
hasty bane
#

oh god thays lua?

timid field
wet girder
timid field
#

Lol

hasty bane
#

oh my god

knotty root
#

Sus

azure tusk
#

Everyone asks “who’s the imposter?” but never “how’s the imposter?”

wet girder
#

Luau is arguably the worst first language

hasty bane
#

the imposter is Unexpected EOF

timid field
# 
if Jojo == Good then
IsJoJoSus = false
End
hasty bane
#

is it called luau?

wet girder
#

no logic from it can be used anywhere else

hasty bane
#

what does the u stand for

knotty root
#

Anyway
Should I do python or c#🗿

hasty bane
#

C# tbh

wet girder
knotty root
#

I got my credit card ready

hasty bane
#

Its much more similar to other languages

wet girder
#

I agree

hasty bane
#

do not overpay for courses

wet girder
#

yeah for sure

hasty bane
#

i spent months trying to get into python

#

and i did get into it

knotty root
#

First thing I see is Udemy

hasty bane
#

it takes time to start but the speed goes brrrrrrr

#

i forgot what site has good c#

#

uhhh

#

i only remember lutz python book and docs sites

#

ig you can do documentation

timid field
knotty root
#

Theres
Udemy
Code Academy

hasty bane
#

dont got for the paid courses sites

#

go for stuff like

#

docs.microsoft

knotty root
#

Aight it's 10 bucks

#

That good?

hasty bane
knotty root
#

What🗿

hasty bane
#

okay hold on

#

@barren shale

#

we found

#

a recruit for you

#

hmm

#

om wait

#

ok*

#

im not confident abt sites

#

sooo

#

try youtube?

#

wbshy im really not experienced in csharp

azure tusk
knotty root
#

Time to search up java toturial and die

hasty bane
#

you can try python i guess

#

or

#

you can wait for hamza

#

to send epic site

knotty root
#

I'll dm him🗿

hasty bane
#

that works

#

for python if you ever wanna do it i can recommend realpython + python official docs

#

pretty good stuff

knotty root
#

🗿

hasty bane
#

i heard smth about a subscription with realpython or whatever
don't bother. the good shit is free

#

also learnpythonthehardway

stark widget
#

Is the."~remove "color" a thing? because it should be. For Map Conversion

barren shale
#

@knotty root if you need help with specific stuff hmu

#

otherwise as i said

#

go google and youtube

#

and when you program

#

do it with a purpose

#

have a thing that you want to do in your mind

orchid frigate
#

Here is a challenge for whoever is interested

#

try to write hello world in all languages you know

exotic vessel
#

Ah yes... The nerd cave

orchid frigate
#

You know what unemployed dave

#

You are a good part of the cave

orchid frigate
#

Ah yes.. The nerd cave

zenith portal
hasty bane
orchid frigate
#

aight lemme try

# 
Console.WriteLine("Hello world!");

cout << "Hello world!" << endl;

print("Hello world")

println!("Hello world!");

printf("Hello world!");
#

and finally

#

Booting this into a machine wouldnt work but I didnt wanna flood char with useless code

#

well its not like this is the most active chat anyway but still

#

im bored ima add comments

orchid frigate
barren shale
#

haydot definetly didnt do that to show us that assembly code is long

#

but that basically proved that assembly is bad

orchid frigate
#

once again a trash comment by hamza

#

I did that because I want this cave to live a little bit man noone wants to show and review code

#

you know what hamza fine lets say I did do it for that because im sure if I dont say it you will make another stupid argument

#

how is the game going

hasty bane
hasty bane
barren shale
hasty bane
#

assembly code is long ≈ assembly code is the most customizable ever

barren shale
#

requires too much time

#

i dont have time

hasty bane
#

but

#

it is long

barren shale
#

college eats up time

hasty bane
#

and therefore boring

#

college smh

#

imagine education

#

lolmao

hasty bane
#

hi

main brook
#

i should flex my storage again

#

249G

#

also

#

@wet girder i managed to make coloured log output

#

its completely built in

#

so when you do

#

it format itself for you

#

i just subclass the Formatter and add colours to it

wet girder
main brook