⌨coders-cave

[main brook]

"oh look this one linux system made a mistake and made my life harder for 1s, Linux is bad! don't use it! windows is better!"

[hasty bane]

Windows 10 Home costs $139 and is suited for a home computer or gaming. Windows 10 Pro costs $199.99 and is suited for businesses or large enterprises. Windows 10 Pro for Workstations costs $309 and is meant for businesses or enterprises that need an even faster and more powerful operating system.

139$
199$
309$

meanwhile linux

The Linux kernel, and the GNU utilities and libraries which accompany it in most distributions, are entirely free and open source. You can download and install GNU/Linux distributions without purchase.

[main brook]

except some

like RHEL

also i think its how the license work

since like

most distro fork another one

Ubuntu from Debian and etc

so they have to make it open source

stuff like void isn't forked from any distro

but its still open source

NOW ITS THE TIME TO DO SOMETHING

like unmounting my usb

because its taking so much voltage

there we go

[gentle steeple]

woo my first mobile game is in beta

[barren shale]

doesnt matter when it comes free with my laptop anyways

[barren shale]

sadly it wasnt 1 second

more like days

of trying to get it to work

had to reinstall spotify 3 times

you know how hard that is with 200kbps

also took days to setup C#

blender crashing

software not supported

worse game performance

if the game is supported

if its not you have to use wine

which doesnt work half of the times

and have shit performance for 3D games

no drivers for my wifi

had to use some weird driver which had a lot of problems

a lot of apps dont have a GUI

there's probably more

i cant think of any right now

[orchid frigate]

"look, something not made by Microsoft! Lets point out every mistake it has ever made and praise windows a lttle!"

[mental jacinth]

I made something truly fun

[orchid frigate]

48 bytes

Fun fact

[marble elbow]

Guys

Can i copy islands?

[orchid frigate]

Thats at least 5 times smaller then a boot sector

[marble elbow]

I really want Philippines island

[orchid frigate]

What do you mean copy them

Look at thr channel name before you answer

[marble elbow]

I need to make them?

Oh sorry

[orchid frigate]

Why am i gonna duet

😔

Actually you have provoked me

To translate this ti assembly bear bones level

[mental jacinth]

It's fun

And a good joke

[barren shale]

im just point out problems that i had in linux

in 1.25 years

that ive never had

on windows

idk why you salty

[orchid frigate]

You wont say anything bad about windows nor anything good about linux nor say if you have an opinion on these

Fir instance i agree

Windows is better for game

Ing

And general no dev purpose usage

But

[barren shale]

idk why you think windows is not good for devoloping

[orchid frigate]

Linux is better at the other things

[barren shale]

ive been doing it for way more than you do

and had zero problems

[orchid frigate]

Have you ever opened the terminal

It sucks

Really bad

[barren shale]

because you dont need a terminal in windows

[orchid frigate]

There are some things

That require a terminal

[barren shale]

like what

[orchid frigate]

Nasm

Qemu

Gcc

Ld

Masm

[barren shale]

Linux stuff

[orchid frigate]

,

Ehat

That has nothing to do with linux

In fact

Masm is made by Microsoft

Its an assembler

[barren shale]

isnt qemu only linux

[orchid frigate]

No

[barren shale]

i didnt see masm

[orchid frigate]

I use it on windows

[barren shale]

oh

[orchid frigate]

Its good

You should try it

But boot from floppy

[barren shale]

i dont emulate OS

[orchid frigate]

Otherwise it might not read the disk

[barren shale]

too much chaos

one OS is enough

[orchid frigate]

Bochs

Too

But i hate bochs

[barren shale]

and how does it sucks

the terminal

[orchid frigate]

It doesn't have many things the linux one does

And it isnt used alot from many people

[barren shale]

do you need these many things in the apps that are for windows ?

[orchid frigate]

Meaning not much documentary

For instance

[orchid frigate]

Yes

Os development

Relays on them

[barren shale]

so you are saying that its missing features

[orchid frigate]

Yes

[barren shale]

ok since its haydot i doubt

but ok

[orchid frigate]

Try os development

You will go crazy

[barren shale]

and you should know that documentation shouldnt be done by people

[orchid frigate]

With powershell

[barren shale]

its done by the makers of the software

[barren shale]

i dont waste my time

making an os with assembly

[orchid frigate]

Damn ok mr. GotNoTime

[barren shale]

sorry i go to college at 7 AM and come back at 4 PM

[orchid frigate]

Same but with school

[barren shale]

lol

what school is this

[orchid frigate]

Economics school

[barren shale]

you stay 9 hours in school ?

[orchid frigate]

Economics highschool*

[barren shale]

high school

class after class

with 15-30 min breaks ?

for 9 hours

[orchid frigate]

From 8am-4pm

[barren shale]

mhmm

[orchid frigate]

This conversation is not healthy lets change topic to....

[barren shale]

ur mum

fat

[orchid frigate]

Cool

Switching again

[barren shale]

ur dad

never came back

you want milk

[orchid frigate]

He is right in front of me rn actually

[barren shale]

now

[orchid frigate]

But ok

Change topic

[barren shale]

C# superiority

[orchid frigate]

Ok that's a good one

[barren shale]

yes

[orchid frigate]

Whats happening in the world of cs

Anything new?

[barren shale]

C# 10

even more superior

[orchid frigate]

Is it good?

[barren shale]

best

[orchid frigate]

What changes

Have been made

No changes?

[barren shale]

a lot

[orchid frigate]

Damn Microsoft got lazy again

Oh

[barren shale]

the new visual studio is yum yum

still has some bugs

but its preview

[orchid frigate]

Vs2022?

[barren shale]

yeh

[orchid frigate]

Yea i saw 0 difference

[barren shale]

yea cuz u probably dont know what ur looking at

[orchid frigate]

Other then font and no compatibility with opengl nor vulkan

[barren shale]

bruh

what ur talking about

opengl

C#

works

[orchid frigate]

No ability to link

As khronos group still working on the vs2022 version

[barren shale]

you dont need a new one for each visual studio engine

you mean .NET 6

but you can use an older version of .NEt

[orchid frigate]

No

[barren shale]

why would you need a new version for visual studio 2022

[orchid frigate]

It needs to link

[barren shale]

link what

[orchid frigate]

The API

[barren shale]

these things didnt change tho

[orchid frigate]

Linking is the first thing you do in a new api project

[barren shale]

only things that changed

is making vs 64 bit

[orchid frigate]

No matter what api

[barren shale]

and making web apps debugging better

VS2022 didnt change a lot from vs2019

its just performance

some rework on the UI

and made debugging web apps better

[orchid frigate]

Well apparently it did

Because it doesn't work

Tested it

[barren shale]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gy7xdJNo93o

[orchid frigate]

Or wait not the api but glfw

[barren shale]

but this is C++

[orchid frigate]

Needs to link

[barren shale]

uhmm

[orchid frigate]

I understand cpp better

[barren shale]

i cant find a C# video about opengl

[orchid frigate]

Bruh i tested it

It didnt work

Idk what this guy did

[barren shale]

u used opentk ?

[orchid frigate]

No

Vulkan

[barren shale]

oh wait

[orchid frigate]

But doesnt matter

[barren shale]

u tlaking about C++ or C#

[orchid frigate]

As glfw stays the same

[barren shale]

C++ right ?

[orchid frigate]

Cpp

[barren shale]

yea that's geyh

we were talking about C# superiority

why change the subject suddenly

you got me mixed up

[orchid frigate]

C# aint native so i dont think its superior

To c

Nor cpp

[barren shale]

i dont care about native or not

[orchid frigate]

As if it was the only language that exists

[barren shale]

i care about usability

[orchid frigate]

Oss wouldnt work

[barren shale]

i care about productivity

[barren shale]

OSs are such a small part of programming

[orchid frigate]

They are the thing every program runs on

[barren shale]

still

small part

[orchid frigate]

They are the main program

[barren shale]

you make them once

we have 3 OSs

linux

mac

windows

how many apps are there ?

trillions ???

[orchid frigate]

If thats true then why make different websites if one already exists

Ehy make different games

If 2 exist

[barren shale]

cuz they are not OSs

[orchid frigate]

Why make apis

If one exists

[barren shale]

so you are telling me that

OSs are more important than apps

for the average developer

[orchid frigate]

Yes

[barren shale]

ok so everyone should switch to OS making

so they can die from hunger

cuz they cant make money

[orchid frigate]

Those two sentences dont link

[barren shale]

im a developer

should i make an OS

or an APP

[orchid frigate]

Just like cs and assembly

[barren shale]

answer

[orchid frigate]

You can make whatever you want and i cant stop you

[barren shale]

i want to make money

[orchid frigate]

Whatever makes you happy

[barren shale]

what do you suggest

OS

or App

[orchid frigate]

What app

You could make the most useless app

[barren shale]

im talking in general

what will make me money

OS

or App

[orchid frigate]

Money? Ap

[barren shale]

ok App

making an app

C# or C++

what's better

[orchid frigate]

What app

[barren shale]

in general

[orchid frigate]

No

[barren shale]

chat app

[orchid frigate]

Not general

Ok

[barren shale]

C# or C++

[orchid frigate]

Cpp

[barren shale]

why

[orchid frigate]

Because thats my opinion

[barren shale]

im talking about practicality

i dont know C# or C++

which one should i learn

to make an app

[orchid frigate]

I don't know cs app development tools

So i can't answer

Nor cpp ones

[barren shale]

then you dont know if C# is worse than C++

for the average developer

who want s to get a job

and make money

and have a good life

[orchid frigate]

for this one specific topic

[barren shale]

apps and web apps or apis

[orchid frigate]

What if you want to have fun in coding

And not money

[barren shale]

whcih is like 90% of jobs

[orchid frigate]

Have you thought about fun

[barren shale]

have fun in suffering

no ty

the coding language doesnt really change the fun

[orchid frigate]

It dies

[barren shale]

waht your coding is what changes the fun

[orchid frigate]

Does*

I don't have fun in cs

But i do in, lets say, assembly

[barren shale]

i programmed in 7+ languages

[orchid frigate]

Or cpp

Or c

[barren shale]

never got bored in any of them

all of them had fun in

cuz what i was making was fun

not cuz the language is fun

the language doesnt change the fun

[orchid frigate]

I tried cpp and cs for opengl

Cs was not fun

[barren shale]

so Cpp was fun ?

[orchid frigate]

Yes

[barren shale]

but you couldnt make anything in it

[orchid frigate]

I don't care about that

If i did

[barren shale]

mhmm

[orchid frigate]

I would do web development

[austere fog]

hello

[barren shale]

no

[orchid frigate]

Dont mind him, also hello

[barren shale]

[orchid frigate]

He is mad because i said Microsoft bad

[barren shale]

no

im mad

[orchid frigate]

[barren shale]

cuz u saying linux is cool

cuz none uses linux]

and u want to be different

smh

kids these days

[orchid frigate]

@main brook you are noone lol

@every programmer ever you are noone lol

[barren shale]

bruh

most programmers dont use linux

most of them that use it switched in the past couple of years

cuz its now the cool thing to do

[orchid frigate]

Have you ever read a single coding documentory

[barren shale]

ive read a lot

[orchid frigate]

None of them use powershell

none

[barren shale]

i never used powershell

in my 7+ programming languages

and i was fine

[orchid frigate]

Im actually gonna...im outta here

Fuck this whole conversation

[fringe void]

Hey guys, posted this in modding-talk but i'm posting it here too. I'm trying to make a mod for worldbox. I feel like this is super straight forward code, but it doesn't work even after I run worldbox as admin. I'm trying to give statues a new size. I tried getting the BuildingAsset statue and gave it a new size but it still wont work. What am I missing?
I'm making mods using MonoBehaviour
Heres my code:

using System;
using System.Collections.Generic;
using System.Linq;
using System.Text;
using System.Threading.Tasks;
using UnityEngine;

namespace MegaStatues
{
    public class WorldBoxMod : MonoBehaviour
    {
        static bool initialized = false;
        void Update()
        {
            if (!Config.gameLoaded) return;
            if (!initialized)
            {
                init();
            }
            initialized = true;

        }

        void init()
        {
            var newStatue = AssetManager.buildings.get("statue");
            newStatue.baseStats.size = 10f;
        }
    }
}

Is there a limit to baseStats.size for buildings?
Also if I'm just setting a different size for the statue do I have to mess with its .asset file?

[tropic dagger]

Yeah but that wasn't the point of the comparison.
Android is an open-system with more customizations and IOS is closed with a bit less customization.

[gentle steeple]

"bit less"

you mean space engineers modding vs minecraft modding? (apple vs android respectively)

just from a code point

[orchid frigate]

Dont see any apparent issues but i have also never modded a single game so idk

[orchid frigate]

Ok done it in assembly bare-bones

The looping part may have an error

Actually ima rewrite it

To make sure it works

Ok done

You cant actually run it

Without having to assemble it via an assembler

And run it on bare-bones or through a virtual machine or an emulator

But its there

[main brook]

and of course

your architecture need to be the samr

[tropic dagger]

From a code perspective, absolutely.

From a general user perspective, "a bit less" works fine in it's regular connotation.

I have done so much coding on my phone that it it now auto-corrects to certain keywords like 'int' sometimes.

Time to clear my keyboard history.

It is done.

No longer will I type 'ij' and send int.

[hasty bane]

you do understand that it's included in the price? lmfao

if you look up the same laptop but without win10 included it's surprisingly cheaper!

[barren shale]

so explain the laptop i bought for 300$ with windows10 pro

[hasty bane]

model?

[barren shale]

i dont have it right now

that was 2 years ago

its a lenovo

dont know the exact model

[hasty bane]

that doesn't help much

[barren shale]

windows is software

software has 100% profit

cuz it costs nothing to make

only time and skill

[hasty bane]

but OS usually comes with your stuff at a discount

[barren shale]

so they can sell it for real cheap if its in bulk

laptop companies obviously buy in bulk

[hasty bane]

unfortunately the decrease in price of the OS is negated by the fact it renders 3gb of ram unusable

[barren shale]

the more ram you dont use

the more ram windows will use

if u have 4 ram it will use like 1

if u have 8 ram and ur using 4 it will use 3

if u use more it will start using less

[hasty bane]

linux doesnt even need to do that

[barren shale]

cool

[hasty bane]

plus its much more customizable

im pretty sure that has been mentioned before

[barren shale]

i have an iphone

i dont care about customizable

[hasty bane]

but you just dismiss all arguments in favour of linux as irrelevant

[barren shale]

linux is too specific

to be called better than windows

[hasty bane]

windows' entire point is availability

if you're developing something that needs to run on windows, develop it on windows

if you don't, then you can do it on linux just fine

embedded software, android

all linux

[hasty bane]

windows is literally only a desktop thing

windows phone is dead

[barren shale]

i made all of my android apps and games on windows

had no problems

i also made some on linux

same experience

[hasty bane]

then why use windows

[barren shale]

i pointed out every problem i had in linux

and how frustrating it was for me

[hasty bane]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

i've had more problems getting things to work on win10 than linux

but

tbf

the linux versus windows debate

has been going on since forever

and its pretty dumb to assume we will get anything out of it here

its like console wars

so just go with whatever you like

[orchid frigate]

This was the stupidest most one-sided argument I have ever had

It was like talking to a wall

Made by Microsoft

[barren shale]

bruh ur salty af

[hasty bane]

[tropic dagger]

Ah yes, the console wars.
The most stupidly divisive argument in the gaming "community". Gaystation and SexBox just don't stand a chance against PC. Maybe one day the gamers will realize that.

[hasty bane]

sexbox

lol

[barren shale]

we can all agree on that

[hasty bane]

nintendo switch: i sux

[barren shale]

i mean the nintendo switch is at least pocketable

you can put it in a bag

you can play anywhere

same thing with steam deck

[hasty bane]

[barren shale]

but a fucking playstation

[hasty bane]

my phone is pocketable

[barren shale]

its like a shit pc

[hasty bane]

yeah p much

[barren shale]

phones are not made to be played on

[hasty bane]

i have a GAMER phone

16gb ram

[barren shale]

gamer phones

[hasty bane]

512mhz CPU

[barren shale]

are the shitties idea

[hasty bane]

lmao

nah gamer phones are good

[barren shale]

good at being the worst

[hasty bane]

U BICH

GAMER PHONE SUPREME

[barren shale]

sux

[lucid rain]

What phone do u use??

Rogs?

[hasty bane]

i use iphone 15

[wet girder]

[main brook]

hey jupe

bad news

raspbian only have like py 3.7

[barren shale]

isnt raspbian just linux ?

[wet girder]

ye

you could use any OS on rasp pi

I once used server version of ubuntu and compiled gui to it

that was before Ubuntu had official support

[wet girder]

How so tho?

[main brook]

im not sure

it uses the rpi archive

maxed on 3.7

[main brook]

yeah but partitioning the sdcard is pain

[wet girder]

why would you partition it

[wet girder]

you can just get newer version from pythons website

[main brook]

you mean

build from source

[wet girder]

well ye

[main brook]

yeah that might not work

[main brook]

for the boot

bootable part

fdisk is killing me

i probably need an actual device

instead of a virtual disk

[wet girder]

If you have a computer you can just use raspberry pis own flashing tool and not need to do any of that

[main brook]

that's a no i think

since like

alpine needs a certain amount

of partition size

void on the other hand

have an iso file

but its only for 2gb drive

but ill try

LET ME USE YOU ALPINE

[barren shale]

ALPINE: no

[hasty bane]

i have set up dual boot

with ubuntu

[main brook]

bleh

[hasty bane]

ubuntu is uhhhh

uncool

but i just need to get used to linux

as an OS thing in general

[main brook]

well

you might like

Manjaro

[wet girder]

I was thinking of changing from win10 to KDE Neon

When I last daily drive linux I used PopOS but it was quite bad distro

I like Debian based distros and don't wanna change to like arch but Ubuntu, likux mint and pop have all been not too enjoyable

[main brook]

well they are Debian

[wet girder]

Yeah, the problem wasn't them being Debian based, the problem was that they were made with simplicity in mind so when I tried to do anything more complex it took hours where if the distro had the correct tools it should have it wouldn't have taken so long

[main brook]

well all that is literally made for

User Experience

if you want more complexity just use Debian

if you want you can even use void

its not Debian based or anything

but its complex as fuck

[barren shale]

yo mama

FaT

[tropic dagger]

But your mom is a literal whale.

I wouldn't be surprised if she has a blowhole.

Oh wait that has a dual meaning.

Uh, your mom's a virgin too.

Ambiguity removed.

[barren shale]

ur mum is so fat

she became a blackhole

[main brook]

Your mom is so fuckingly dense, even light can't escape your mom gravity

when your mom walk through the universe

all it took was one step

to destroy the whole universe

[barren shale]

that's a blackhole

[main brook]

ouch

it implies

you're adopted

smart move

[lapis flint]

@main brook @barren shale @tropic dagger please, keep channel topic, this is not a place for 1 screen of jokes about moms

[barren shale]

#⌨coders-cave is about mums tho

[main brook]

ah yes

fair point

i guess we're gonna ignore the whole lots of people talking about worldbox here like suggesting and directly asking to add something

[barren shale]

or bot commands

[main brook]

yes

i blocked you but i still agree with that one

[barren shale]

what's the point of blocking me

if ur gonna read every message i type

[main brook]

now then

im gonna continue to flash alpine

but im using the armhf version instead of armv7

[barren shale]

alpine:

https://tenor.com/view/no-bugs-bunny-nope-gif-14359850

[main brook]

and change the volume label

[hasty bane]

all my homies hate javascript

[lapis flint]

js gods language

[orchid frigate]

nah rust

you can do fucking anything in rust

[lapis flint]

game?

[orchid frigate]

from os development

to game

to...everything

to game engine

graphics

[lapis flint]

This game?

Is rust

[orchid frigate]

no the language

this one

[main brook]

rust is ok-

but binaries

combining 0's and 1's in a meaningful way

[orchid frigate]

yes

the most pog...what do you call it

[lapis flint]

interesting, never heard

[main brook]

there's LOLCODE

[lapis flint]

But on js you can write new lang on runtime and use it

[main brook]

eh

its gonna be super slow

[orchid frigate]

LOLCODE is awesome

[main brook]

since it runs on an engine

interpreted

[orchid frigate]

two compile times

[main brook]

yes

although its event loop

[orchid frigate]

for js and new language

thats like

[main brook]

grants it a high control

[orchid frigate]

more then one]

[main brook]

at networks

[orchid frigate]

and one is already too much

[main brook]

yeah-

imagine using a interpreted language to run custom interpreted language

[orchid frigate]

is noone gonna talk about what a huge crime i commited in the showed code

its at the level of a warcrime

[main brook]

yes no

[orchid frigate]

making another language in it?

how high can we go

before compile time becomes 10 seconds

[wet girder]

I saw this actually pretty good comic while scrolling coding memes

I'm surprised i was able to find anything good

[orchid frigate]

i have been thinking about something similar reasently

how coding has become way too...easy

all new languages are incredibly high level and easy to use and learn

[trail ocean]

[grand scarab]

[orchid frigate]

and if this trend continues at one point we will just be writing code in english

[wet girder]

That's good though. If everything is gonna be done in computing more people there are is better

[grand scarab]

I was trying to raise the level of a unit called "테스트" from 7 to 9

[wet girder]

With what?

[grand scarab]

But it happened

[trail ocean]

maybe just used note app?

[orchid frigate]

imo the less people that can write but the more educated they are the better

[grand scarab]

[wet girder]

if you used amp I gotta start fixing sone fucking bugs

[grand scarab]

Yes quick edit

[orchid frigate]

we nee quality not quantity

[wet girder]

How did you decode and encode the map files?

[grand scarab]

~decode and ~encode

[trail ocean]

[grand scarab]

I did it with an AMP bot

[sick belfry]

Not possible

[orchid frigate]

by the way this looked i thought this was an os shell

[wet girder]

Well if you can do the same thing with less education you don't need so much knowledge

[trail ocean]

yea seems so

get out chest

[sick belfry]

No

[wet girder]

as expected. I think the encoder is fucked somehow

[orchid frigate]

things become too easy tho

[trail ocean]

maybe now u have job to do rn

[orchid frigate]

making something like a game

[trail ocean]

rip jupe

[orchid frigate]

no longer much of an issue

[trail ocean]

and also hai haydot

[orchid frigate]

hi silly cat

[wet girder]

I just came from school 10 mins ago. I'm not gonna start coding more than the 6 hours I've already done today in school

maybe this thursday if I'm not too exhausted

[trail ocean]

yea yea take a rest is the most important

have a great talk here and vibe around

[grand scarab]

I did it again

No save file manipulation

[orchid frigate]

look at all those 0s

hexadecimal too

0x0000

oh they are 32bit

then 0x000000

or was that 64....yea

anyway i have no idea what that means

[grand scarab]

[orchid frigate]

MakeFiles are legit so good

if you dont know what they are I highly suggest you research them as they are amazing

[hasty bane]

getting to the core has always been the point

sure they are becoming easier to use and learn

but i dont think that's the case when you dive deep into it

[orchid frigate]

idk man I just think if they were becoming lower level and harder but faster and functional in more different sectors

things would be better

but i do see what you are saying and agree

[hasty bane]

i think c / c++ etc still fill that role pretty well

[barren shale]

map is corrupted

[barren shale]

C++ is becoming shitter everyday

C# is going the same way as C++

and will start becoming shitter everyday

[hasty bane]

hamza????

saying c# bad??????

[hasty bane]

C it is then, i guess

[barren shale]

no no no

you misunderstood

im saying it might be going to be bad

but its not rn

rn its good

best

[hasty bane]

ah

nice

[barren shale]

cuz C++ kept backwards compatiability and now its too huge

[hasty bane]

ahh

[barren shale]

like you can do the same thing 10 different ways

but only 3 ways are viable

and you need 1 way

and C# is going this way

[hasty bane]

lel

[grand scarab]

[barren shale]

AMP sux

needs to be rewritten

in C#

obviously

[wet girder]

I was working on that

ngl

[hasty bane]

i might make a bot in js

[barren shale]

C# better

[barren shale]

tell me if u need help

on the best language

[orchid frigate]

this reminds me of something

which i should be spending more time on

[wet girder]

I have next week off of school so AMP C# editon time

[barren shale]

learning C# ?

[barren shale]

HAYDOT

@orchid frigate

I FOUND YOUR NEW FAV LANGUAGE

[orchid frigate]

what

is it malbolge?

[gentle steeple]

my first web game is out on itch woo

[gentle steeple]

which linux support is better when building from unity? mono or IL2CPP?

[mossy cedar]

what language is amp written in

[bold rover]

Probably python

[tropic dagger]

Python, but Jupe mentioned swapping to C# further up.

[main brook]

mission success

installed alpine

[wet girder]

I used Discord.py for it

It's just not continued anymore and I don't like python so I'm coding atleast some of it again

[bold rover]

Ah makes sense

[orchid frigate]

Unity? Any OS will work I think

Oh wait thats not what you meant i thought you said distro

[main brook]

HOLY SHIT

ALPINE ON RPI IS LITERALLY FAST

its super duper duper fast

[gentle steeple]

if im going to already fight with just pushing google out, might as well push version support for everyone else

even if the game is just a simple arcade one

[orchid frigate]

Uhhh as im reading about both Softwares

I think il2cpp

Sounds better but also kinda slow

[gentle steeple]

game is about as advanced as galaga

well given galaga has varried formation animations and kill score its more advanced....

[knotty root]

How code

[barren shale]

its APL

life←{↑1 ⍵∨.∧3 4=+/,¯1 0 1∘.⊖¯1 0 1∘.⌽⊂⍵}

is code

[orchid frigate]

That looks great

But i prefer malbolge

[barren shale]

malbolge makes no sense

APL makes sense

its used by nvidia

[orchid frigate]

it is?

damn sounds interesting then

[barren shale]

yeh

array programming language

[orchid frigate]

"developed in the 1960s" I will enjoy this one

Unpopular opinion: All old languages are gold

[barren shale]

the symbols actually make sense

[orchid frigate]

my only problem is: How do you type it

Maybe a specific keymap?

Ah so it is a specific keymap

This looks hella hard to learn

[hasty bane]

what

why

[barren shale]

cuz

haydot

[main brook]

FOR SOME REASON

my docker is taking 5gb

due to my unused images

[cosmic lagoon]

Intresting

[main brook]

imagine compiling dozens of times

in docker

because you missed some dependencies

[main brook]

its literally been like

12 hours

I MISSED DEPENDENCIES

like g++, rust, cargo, openssl-dev

and etc

each build took like an hour

i also missed python3-dev

and libffi-dev

[orchid frigate]

@main brook learn rust when

[main brook]

when im gonna make my own OS

[orchid frigate]

In coding, i like to be challenged, not write some dumb easy scripts that i will never be proud of

Or

I just like seeing what very well educated people do in bare-bones

[orchid frigate]

Its not only for os

You can also....do....

Uhhh

Graphics?

[main brook]

why did you assume im only using it for os

[hasty bane]

idk

[orchid frigate]

I apparently live in the 60s so i just assume whatever you are doing has something to do with OSs

[main brook]

fair

[main brook]

i like to write code nobody can understand

and feel superior in soft technology

[main brook]

also

Debian be running on 20% of my cpu

while alpine just takes less than 1%

[tropic dagger]

Damn.

Still not as bad as Windows 10.

90%

[barren shale]

Interviewer: so why did you name the variable that holds the width of the window “m”
Rei: Yes

[bold rover]

Mind deleting this manually mods

[tropic dagger]

Like we would fall for that.

We literally spend our free time working with and improving logic.

[tropic dagger]

And may be doing it for a career.

[hasty bane]

my maff skills have improved

pretty cool

[main brook]

the links are so real

it was

discordi.gifts

now its

discocrd.gifts

imagine some random 9 years old think this is real

[gentle steeple]

i know 20 year olds who would think its real

[main brook]

i know 60 years old

[wet girder]

Finns call discord discordi or diskordi

[main brook]

eh

its still looks unofficial

[wet girder]

true

[tropic dagger]

Yes and no. C++ was meant to be able to compile C code as well but now it's simply evolved into a new programming language. It's size is simply due to the fact that it is low-level and thus is best to create as many abstraction layers as possible, while maintaining it's low-level status. An example is the unique_ptr, which is a pointer. A pointer can be done in the 'C' way using * but it's better to use unique_ptr because it's simpler and has an abstraction layer using OOP. When you need to use multiple pointers to one object, then you use shared_ptr.
Could it have been done in a better way? Yes. But do they work and are readable? Yes.
The same can be said for vector and arrary and []. One exists to compile C code, the other two use similar concepts but they have important differences.

That's a big block of text.

tl;dr: C++ is because it creates an easier way to manage different problems.

You wouldn't use a map for a list, but they are similar concepts.

[faint sierra]

I got a warning because I was sending inappropriate emojis

Will I get banned if I keep doing it?

[bold rover]

Yes

[tropic dagger]

Yes. You will also get warned if you post off topic stuff in here once Rei becomes mod.

[hallow kiln]

E

[knotty root]

Squa

[undone hedge]

what does that mean?

[undone hedge]

Hello @astral basin !

My name is Tudor,
I am new on the server, I found about the game on YouTube and I've been watching gameplay for a while now and I want to do something.
I am a master student in Romania for Advanced Techniques of Information Processing and I have my dissertation this year. I want to create a small and way less complicated version of this game for my dissertation.
My base idea was to create a non-interactive simulation of 2 civilizations that would either become allies or wage war against each other as time in the simulation progresses, each having 1 king and 2 types of people (peasants and soldiers) (people could die of old age or because of war). I would use this to show my dissertation reviewers the population changes for both civilizations as time progresses.
I am not very good at programming or math but I want to try my best because I like this idea and it sounded nice for my coordinator as well.
I was wondering if you could help me with some information on what's behind the algorithms the game uses (i am guessing it uses some kind of genetic algorithms)? Maybe at least direct me towards what algorithms or math to study on my own for this.
I hope you would see this message

[knotty root]

hey @undone hedge

[undone hedge]

Hello @knotty root

[near lava]

Hi

I do the code

Int ()

[tropic dagger]

int(x)(40); works in C++.

The variable is x.

It makes my brain genuinely hurt.

It looks like a wizard type cast.

[bold rover]

Why

[barren shale]

Ur fat mum?

[bold rover]

No,Also Mind Deleting that

The Bee6

[wet girder]

wtf, how does that even make sense

[main brook]

im guessing calling int() declared a variable? and then calling it again assign a value to it

but i don't know

[barren shale]

looks like this but this is C# ofc

[tropic dagger]

It's not a call.

int() is a cast, but int()() is a declaration/initialization

int() = (int) ≠ int()()

I'm gonna look into them and see if there's a difference.

[main brook]

well i mean

it looks like casting

which does call something

so-

most type cast is literally calling the type to a variable

like python

int("1")

and js String(1)

which is exactly the type

except in js

they don't use any typehint

its only on ts

which are

string, number, etc...

[barren shale]

i just tested some things

int(x) just makes a new variable called x

its same as int x

and you can initailize a variable by using ()

int x(40);

works same as

int(x)(40);

[wet girder]

very interesting

[barren shale]

you can do also

char str[]("Hello");

which is same as

    char (str)[]("Hello");

or

char (str[])("Hello");

[wet girder]

I can just replace all my

int x = 40;

with

int(x)(40);

Just to fuck with other devs

[barren shale]

these all work the same

[barren shale]

evil plan

and randomly switch between

char (str)[]("string");

and

char (str[])("string");

which will fuck them up even more

[wet girder]

https://tenor.com/view/seth-meyers-i-cant-tell-you-how-much-i-love-that-i-cant-not-now-gif-10501702

[wet girder]

Why tf do Gibibytes exist when 99% of computing works in powers of 2

[barren shale]

windows uses gibibytes

[wet girder]

https://tenor.com/view/but-why-why-scream-mad-annoyed-gif-15498922

[barren shale]

that's why you never get the full space of your drive

gibibytes are better than gigabytes

a kilobyte is 1000 byte

a kibibyte is 1024 byte

for computers using gibi, kibi is better

[wet girder]

wait hold on

I've just mixed the 2 then

[barren shale]

kilo = 1000

kilometer = 1000 meter

kilobyte = 1000 byte

[wet girder]

ohh yeah wtf, I've been scammed

[barren shale]

[wet girder]

kilobytes are the bad ones then

[barren shale]

yes

notice how in windows it says GB

never says gigabyte

cuz its not a gigabyte

but if you use gibibyte it would be confusing af to people who dont know what it is

so they just use GB

MB

KB

[wet girder]

Makes sense

powers of 2 just makes more sense in computing than what ever tf kilobytes are called in math

[barren shale]

prefixes

in physics not math

[stark plover]

Can someone help me code a new type of bomb thats stronger than the tsar bomb in world box?

B)

[tropic dagger]

var bomb = new WB_bomb(that's better than Tsar bomb);

Don't try that *

Go to #🔧modding-talk it'll be more helpful.

[hasty bane]

Why didn't they just make kilobytes 1024 bytes.

[barren shale]

kilo is a prefix for 1000

kilobyte = 1000 * byte

mega is a prefix for 1000000

and giga is a prefix for 1000000000

they are used everywhere

megawatts and gigawatts

kilometers

kilogram

[hasty bane]

screw languages

[bold rover]

It's hamza, just...

[barren shale]

i remade p5.js in C#

cuz C# is better

[lapis flint]

You can just run js on c#, and then run p5

[barren shale]

i smell slow

sniff sniff

[lapis flint]

wtf

why you need light speed performance for your own use private project?

[barren shale]

i dont need it for my project

[lapis flint]

Idk, i am doing what i said, and never has slow

[barren shale]

i need it for myself

[lapis flint]

Yes, this is what i said

your own use

[barren shale]

if i dont see 400 fps

i cry

[lapis flint]

wtf

[barren shale]

https://i.imgur.com/rkaXjsd.png

FPS

[lapis flint]

Use xna

it is fast

[barren shale]

im using opentk

i just want something that can work fast

and can be made into a library

this is the whole thing

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2mnYf7L7Amw

this is fun

[bold rover]

Ow god

[lime swan]

I love how I have no idea what in the nuking japan any of this mean

[knotty root]

Bro

[rocky tendon]

oops

wrong send

[barren shale]

dead cave

REI

where are u

@main brook u still alive ?

[untold plaza]

Umm

I don’t belong here

[bold rover]

The person busy

Most likely busy

Rei is hard working

[barren shale]

or dead

[bold rover]

No

[barren shale]

at this point

dead is more likely

[delicate grove]

does worldbox modding supports use of 3rd part libs like lets say a machine learning lib?

[barren shale]

#🔧modding-talk

[orchid frigate]

Thats actually a sorta good question

But im pretty sure it should support those

No reason for it to not

[bold rover]

WorldBox most likely support it

[barren shale]

although machine learning libraries in C# are kinda ew

so i would probably just use a python machine learning lib