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orchid frigate
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Which is like machine code but with a but more info for linking

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With assembly probably

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So yes

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You were right

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I think

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Ok time to open vim

main brook
signal tusk
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Hi there

signal tusk
main brook
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esc + :q

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i know vim stuff

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like save, force quit, save & quit

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search

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and stuff

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i call myself the self claimed expert

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of vim

orchid frigate
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vim is nice

barren shale
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vim is bad

orchid frigate
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bru

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why you think vim is bad

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no no you cant just slip away like that

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@barren shale explain yourself

main brook
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vim is bad

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at being the worst editor ever

orchid frigate
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im skipping hexadecimal printing

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useless imo and hard

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skipping to the next most annoying thing, the GDT table

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this will be so fucking annoying to explain

main brook
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my sdcard came

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im gonna install alpine on it

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or void

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or just rpi software

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void arm platform image is for 2gb

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so i have to partition myself

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if i want more space

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also alpine way of running os in the ram is neat

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although a bit too heavy

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since you need memory intensive work

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omw to install golang now

orchid frigate
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Damn people on pastebin are actually reading this

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I have a following on there

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260 people have opened my stuff

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290*

barren shale
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takes too much time to learn

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probably wont make a difference

orchid frigate
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mate its a text editor not assembly x128

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you open it and write

hasty bane
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i have begun learning javascript

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suffer timeeee

orchid frigate
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why

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why suffer

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i tried learning javascript

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i would say its harder then assembly itself

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You know that your computer is really fucked up when your disk reading lamp is in a constant strong white

hasty bane
tropic dagger
main brook
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same

mortal forge
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.

barren shale
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assembly is for sure easier to learn than most languatges

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but using it is hard

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it takes tons of code to make simple stuff

quaint carbon
main brook
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so go is eh good

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but starting a project is

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hard as fuck

knotty root
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✈︎ II

tropic dagger
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Actually I'll have to agree with you hamza. It's just a shit ton of keywords but using them is the hard part.

bold rover
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Hmm

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True true :_

barren shale
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hamza is always true

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such a cool guy ngl

main brook
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yeah he's cool

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he's so cool

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he froze

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and died

barren shale
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wait what

wet girder
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tropic dagger
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I have begun C++ template metaprogramming.

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Kill me before it's too late.

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Also I'm gonna try to get NASM working today.

knotty root
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Hello

main brook
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don't regret it

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nice

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this store

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uses ubuntu

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as its system on the computers

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instead of a custom made fork

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so its straight up ubuntu desktop

barren shale
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ur mum fat

tropic dagger
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Template metaprogramming is arcane but cool.

main brook
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@barren shale

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yes

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we know

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my mom is fat

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@orchid frigate ALSO

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my rpi worked

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turns out my 256gb had issues

barren shale
main brook
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with the partition

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due to its size

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i used 16gb and it worked

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omw to use actual linux environment

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where i can control the actual system

orchid frigate
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Ima also download linux

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But not myself

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My bios, monitor, cpu or motherboard is broken and i have no idea which so ima send my pc to actual professionals to check the pc and UEFI's health and install arch

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So finally gonna switch

main brook
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best setup

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turns out my network is already configured

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so i literally waste 1h for nothing

hasty bane
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rip

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im trying to learn react here

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and it's very weird

main brook
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indeed

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honestly the new version is better though

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with useState

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better than the nested class

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literally as simple as

# 
[ setCount, count ] = useState(0)
return <button>{count}</button>
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and use it wherever

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i forgot some part of react

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im using svelte now

hasty bane
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what is svelte

main brook
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a better framework

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it uses its own syntax

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instead of the standard .js

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it has ssr

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instead of react csr

hasty bane
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why is it better

main brook
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okay so first off

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every view in a svelte has its own context

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so if you like have a css

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that css only works here

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instead of applying it globally to everything

hasty bane
main brook
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thanks to random names on it

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secondly

hasty bane
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should i learn it instead of react

main brook
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<script>
    let a = 69;
</script>

<h1>{a}</h1>

<style>
h1 {
    color: red;
}
</style>
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i recommend using svelte-kit

hasty bane
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:Thonk:

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Probably gonna use react tho

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kekekekeke

main brook
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yeah i mean

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you can apply react to some part of your existing app

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svelte is full fledge

hasty bane
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ahh

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i see

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yeah I'll use react

main brook
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should i use a vncserver to access my rpi as a desktop

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plus i really wanna use vscode

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xfce4 is good since its lightweight

barren shale
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drawing neural networks looks kewl

worldly cypress
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what

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the

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fuck

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is

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that

naive wigeon
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someone who has a map of the world in world box that can pass it to me

dense badger
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So i don't know much about linux and i'm using Manjaro, I tried running worldbox from the terminal using ./ and it failed with this debug info

Debug info from gdb:

mono_gdb_render_native_backtraces not supported on this platform, unable to find gdb or lldb

I tried google searching it but came up with a bunch of crap I didn't understand since im stoopid, can anyone make sense of this here?

tropic dagger
tropic dagger
main brook
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did you compile them yourself or-

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you just downloaded the exe file

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and then just ./worldbox.exe

main brook
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don't ask that in here

main brook
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@orchid frigate should i use my normal fan to cool down my rpi

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most tips suggest using the mini fan for your cpu

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which is hella costly

dense badger
main brook
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wha-

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did you even check if its an executable

dense badger
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lol no but the debug seems weird for something that isn't

main brook
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exactly

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plus where did you download it

dense badger
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humblebundle

tropic dagger
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eh?

main brook
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sounds unofficial

dense badger
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whaaa?

tropic dagger
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The official site exists

main brook
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yes

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exactly

dense badger
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the official site took me to humble bundle

main brook
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ah

tropic dagger
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Oh

main brook
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what's the content

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do ls on the folder

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it shows show you colour code too

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to tell what file is what

dense badger
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Well I did

tropic dagger
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If it has no color it's a windows file.

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And therefore not a Linux thingy.

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Meaning it cannot and will not run on Linux.

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Get a windows 10 vm with virtual box or VMware.

main brook
main brook
tropic dagger
main brook
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its a way to run exe file in linux

dense badger
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Idk why tf the "linux" version would have windows stuff

tropic dagger
tropic dagger
main brook
dense badger
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I'm trying

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I need to login on my laptop

main brook
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bleh

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this is why i code on my phone

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blazing fast

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no need to login to my non-existent pc

dense badger
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no adult shinobu :(

main brook
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what

dense badger
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nvm

tropic dagger
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No one asked for English to be so boring.

dense badger
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wtf why can't I send images

tropic dagger
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Oh

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You need chicken to do it.

dense badger
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oof

tropic dagger
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Just dm me the image and I'll send it.

dense badger
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Im just a lowly insect 😔

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ok

tropic dagger
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There.

dense badger
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IS it fine if I post the huge block of text that comes after

tropic dagger
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Sure.

dense badger
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unless I don't need to

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Your verdict, Rei?

main brook
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no colour

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as expected

tropic dagger
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There is very little color.

main brook
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there's a colour yes

tropic dagger
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But there is a .gz with color.

main brook
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but not an executable one

tropic dagger
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Yeah.

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I'm not as acquainted with Linux files as I want to be.

main brook
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probably manjaro thing

dense badger
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me neither

main brook
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i never tried it

dense badger
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I wanna get a clean slate of Arch on my main pc but my bios is terrible

main brook
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ha

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arch

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am i right

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its not really a bad idea

dense badger
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damn no gif :(

main brook
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but i mostly use lightweight os

main brook
dense badger
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I mean manjaro is just arch with a bunch of stuff bloating it right?

main brook
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yes

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exactly

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i use alpine and void

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im planning to install alpine on my rpi

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AFTER I FIGURE OUT HOW PARTITION WORK

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apparently im gonna partition using windows

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and the guide uses linux

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so no fdisk, msdosfs, dd

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void is a good alternative for almost all non desktop designed os

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because it have 2 variety

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glibc and musl

dense badger
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I can barely remember from when I installed linux on my laptop but from what I do remember isn't partitioning the easy part?

main brook
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no

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you have to partition the system

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to FAT32

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and then make a filesystem to it

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and make it bootable

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and then other shit

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the hard part is

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im on windows

wet girder
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partitioning in windows 10 is easy af

main brook
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not here

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best way to run rpi

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im gonna use a lan cable instead of wireless

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and also

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it powers nicely

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without hdmi and usb keyboard & mouse

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i don't think it has low voltage

barren shale
main brook
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i know

wet girder
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oo nice

main brook
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now im having issues with docker

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ugh

wet girder
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docker seems pretty hard but interesting af

main brook
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it is

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its fun having containers

main brook
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yay

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docker is working

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turns our the fucking docker daemon is already running

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also alpine image 3.13 >= broken

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on armv7

barren shale
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kewl stuff

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NEAT looks neat ngl

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u get some neat stuff

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even tho i didnt fully implement it yet

celest grove
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Hmm?

barren shale
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sometimes it over do it a bit

main brook
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haha

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the fan worked

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my rpi stay at a stable 45°C

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even though i literally compiled shit

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atleast 6 times

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yay now my server is online

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@wet girder great news

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i learned how to use docker

hasty bane
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hosting on a rpi

main brook
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yes

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i honestly don't expect this much

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since i bought $1 data cable for the charger

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usually it cost $2 or $4

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or even $10

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i even bought $2 sdcard

barren shale
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rei

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ur mum fat

deft anvil
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Your mom is fatter than the universe

main brook
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node modules are denser than black hole

main brook
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pi@raspberrypi:~ $ /opt/vc/bin/vcgencmd measure_temp
temp=40.2'C
pi@raspberrypi:~ $ /opt/vc/bin/vcgencmd measure_temp
temp=39.7'C
pi@raspberrypi:~ $ /opt/vc/bin/vcgencmd measure_temp
temp=40.8'C
pi@raspberrypi:~ $ /opt/vc/bin/vcgencmd measure_temp
temp=39.7'C
pi@raspberrypi:~ $
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hmmm

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getting too cold here

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omw to turn it off

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well yes its normal temperature

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by normal i mean

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its literally not hot not cold

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although it has a little heat on the cpu

barren shale
barren shale
main brook
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well yes and no

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but im not iddling

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it was literally like

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47°C - 43°C

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when im configuring docker

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by that i mean

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compiling yarl

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multiple times

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because my Dockerfile sucks

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and apparently it didn't cache the pip install part

hasty bane
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GRAPHS

Figure_1.png
barren shale
barren shale
hasty bane
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im gonna go insane with graphs now

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GLORY TO DATA SIENS

barren shale
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things that use 1 core and has a lot of waiting dont do shit

barren shale
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cool neat nn

hasty bane
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fuck AI LOLOLOLLOOLOL

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ai wouldn't work without data wbsmirk

main brook
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aren't graph the same-

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a graph is to display a data

barren shale
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when you can make data

hasty bane
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if you dont have data how do you make it

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cant make data without data

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maybe

barren shale
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YOU GATHER IT

hasty bane
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nO

barren shale
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YES

hasty bane
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i mean data as a THING

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in GENERAL

barren shale
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NO

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SSTUSDIQHJE

hasty bane
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:/

barren shale
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IM RIGHT
UR WRONG

hasty bane
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you can't dather gata if it doesnt exist

barren shale
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:)

hasty bane
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as a concept

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though

barren shale
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djqkwejqiwokueqoewq

hasty bane
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there would be bigger problems

barren shale
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blah blah blah

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AI > ALL

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go away

hasty bane
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do you write AI in python

barren shale
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no

hasty bane
barren shale
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sometimes

hasty bane
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rekt

barren shale
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what

hasty bane
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python SUPERIOR

barren shale
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i only use it sometimes

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cuz its bad

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C# > ALL

hasty bane
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ur bad

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git gud

barren shale
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ur mum bad

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and fat

hasty bane
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average c# user

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average python enjoyer GigaChad

barren shale
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average C# user is way better than python user

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python is not fun

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python is like coding with a blindfold on

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ew

hasty bane
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at least we can all agree lua is even worse

barren shale
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C# > python > lua

hasty bane
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assembly

barren shale
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ew

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none uses it

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only nubs

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||haydot||

hasty bane
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lmao

barren shale
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only reason to learn assembly

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is reverse engineering

hasty bane
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xdd

barren shale
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everything else

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is unpractical

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windows uses C

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not assembly

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why you ask ?

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cuz assembly is bad

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unpractical

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shit

barren shale
hasty bane
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well

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windows has millions of lines of code

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would suck to write in assembly

barren shale
hasty bane
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kek

barren shale
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imagine not being able to count all the disjoint connections in 1 line

unknown.png
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LMAO

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this is using LINQ which is slow

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still faster than python tho

main brook
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who cares if python is slow

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its slos

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slow

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if you want speed

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use assembly

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like the cool kid haydot

barren shale
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i want speed with usability

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aka C#

orchid frigate
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Assembly needs very little lines to do things as it doesn't have many of the functionalities other languages do which make the code longer

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It doesn't need much explaining

barren shale
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most of the times its longer in assembly

orchid frigate
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Wdym you havent written a single line in assembly

barren shale
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i did tho

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remember hamza hacking MMO game ?

orchid frigate
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Cap

barren shale
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reverse engineering the game

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to find the send function

orchid frigate
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I mean low level

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Os level

barren shale
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so making a game is harder than an os in assembly

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mhm

orchid frigate
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I mean

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Technically yes

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Os development isnt as hard as it looks

barren shale
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well then

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you better go and tell microsoft that they are doing it the wrong way

orchid frigate
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Ok

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Ima go do that rn

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I actually would tho

orchid frigate
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The whole os is a fucking joke

barren shale
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windows 10 still made in C++ and C

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and its the most used OS

orchid frigate
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Why do you think everyone that knows anything about computers wants to switch to linux

tropic dagger
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And + 8000000000x ram requirement.

main brook
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@orchid frigate haydot haydot haydot haydot haydot haydot haydot haydot haydot haydot haydot haydot haydot

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go scheduler sucks a bot

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bit*

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when you run go routine

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it literally

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run in a undefined order

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behave literally like a thread

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using a Mutex won't work

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because the first order is undefined

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so if we make 4 routine

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the first running could be the 2nd or 4th

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or anything else

wet girder
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usually decrease it seems

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Linux always improves tho

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all is compared to win10

main brook
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quick fact: go just fucking dominated my cpu by just installing like 5 dependencies

main brook
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because as you know it

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its Unix

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NOT LIKE THAT FREAKING WINDOWS

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im somehow still unfamiliar with Windows filesystem

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even though i used it for my whole life

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and linux these past 2 years

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almost 3

main brook
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once i have a suitable charger head

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TIME TO drop in

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a storage server

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for my family

barren shale
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which is pretty ok in today's standards

barren shale
main brook
main brook
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windows is user friendly

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it doesn't introduce you to the systems

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just casual experience

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its like primary school

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on the other hand

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linux is

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military

barren shale
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geyh

main brook
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that doesn't work on me

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i love both females and males equally

barren shale
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same tbh

main brook
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nice

barren shale
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i love @everyone

main brook
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GASP

main brook
barren shale
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geyh

main brook
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nu uh

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honestly i don't cars anymore

barren shale
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i do cars

main brook
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i don't

barren shale
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you dont cars ?

main brook
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i have severe car sickness

main brook
barren shale
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bruh i just drove my car at 120

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down a street

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where the limit is 60

main brook
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bad boy

barren shale
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none cares for some reason

main brook
barren shale
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no police

main brook
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well i mean

barren shale
main brook
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if you're in the city

barren shale
main brook
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police are almost on every corner

barren shale
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even in cities

main brook
barren shale
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not a lot of police

main brook
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same here

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usually police in an intersection

barren shale
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yeah

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only in intersection

main brook
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yes

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for bigger one

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like a department

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its usually located super close

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to the other government buildings

barren shale
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we dont need police in government buildings

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we have military

main brook
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we do need them

main brook
barren shale
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we have military checkpoints everywhere

main brook
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usually the government buildings is literally filled

barren shale
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in my town there's like 4

main brook
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with military personel

main brook
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there's literally a military brigade infront of my neighborhood

barren shale
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in the small towns they are bored

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and they dont check anything

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they are just there

main brook
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same here

barren shale
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but in the areas leading to governorates that have war in them

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they check everything

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they look in the car

main brook
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someone checking your stuff is literally a gift

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you got someone attention and they wanted you

barren shale
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yeah

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they looking for bombs and weapons tho

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they look under the car

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under the seats

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imagine the queue

main brook
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yes it sucks

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atleast better than THIS ONE TIMR

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i went to a mall

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a new shopping retail opened

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Uniqlo

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literally like

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hundreds of people lining up

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for some autograph

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or something

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its literally circling

barren shale
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these are normal to syria

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but on essentials

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like gas for cooking or for cars

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or diesel for heaters

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or food

main brook
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bleh

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you could get gasoline on every corner here

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just drive half a km

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you find a gasoline seller

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for some reason i wanna ara ara hamza now

barren shale
main brook
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something jupe wouldn't like

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and would ban me

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if i do

barren shale
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wat

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you cant do this

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you have to tell me

main brook
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hehe no

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also

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have a shitpost

barren shale
main brook
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yes

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its literally yuri

barren shale
jade bough
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fax!!!!

gentle steeple
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getting ever closer to final build

barren shale
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no depths in the art

gentle steeple
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lol

gilded tree
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code

barren shale
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too high definition for the pixel art

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and since its space

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you need darker shades

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then it would be kewl af

gentle steeple
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true

round urchin
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who has S&Box

orchid frigate
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what is that

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also @barren shale quick test: what is the magic number in a boot sect

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assembly dev

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writing the gdt table is so annoying

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too many flags to remember

barren shale
orchid frigate
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🙄

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excuses

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cant wait for linux

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where i will actually be able to compile, link, assemble and run my code

barren shale
barren shale
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i just rather spend my time on more useful stuff

orchid frigate
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i probably can but its way too complicated

barren shale
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ive seen someone run assembly code

orchid frigate
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linux makes in way easier

barren shale
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in like 5 secs on windows

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you just have to download the compiler

orchid frigate
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and see it doesnt work]

barren shale
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well see

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you suck

orchid frigate
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thanks

barren shale
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np

orchid frigate
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you are a great support

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you probably play mercy in overwatch

barren shale
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i dont even play overwatch

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i play shadow shaman in dota

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(support hero)

orchid frigate
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btw there are so many commands for testing an os

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people make MakeFiles for the run

barren shale
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@main brook

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ur mum fat

orchid frigate
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@barren shale c# is best language

knotty root
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No, C++ or C is better

orchid frigate
knotty root
orchid frigate
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dont tell him tho

knotty root
orchid frigate
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i actually like assembly

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like no joke

knotty root
orchid frigate
knotty root
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Meh

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Assembly is ez

orchid frigate
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i mean like matters what assembly

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are we talking bear metal assembly or os dependant assembly

knotty root
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Ohhhh

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Ye

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Its good ig

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I also like assemblying cuz, yk, I also make bots

orchid frigate
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why assembly for bots tho

knotty root
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Like robots

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Irl robots

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But what do you mean?

orchid frigate
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i was gonna ask a really dumb question but i stopped myself

knotty root
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Assembly the language or assembly assembly

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Assemble

orchid frigate
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assembly the language

knotty root
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Ohhh

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Okay

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I understand now

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Welp

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Its not like that used for bots

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Bots are mase with C++, Java, Js and I think also Python??

orchid frigate
knotty root
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Yes

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It is used

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But like

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Its complicated ig...

orchid frigate
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so you got the boot sector first in assembly link the kernel and boom

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you can now use high level languages

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but idk how the software on robots work

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may be different

knotty root
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Bots are mase with C++, Java, Js and I think also Python??

lime stratus
main brook
main brook
main brook
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now unbland

deft anvil
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ok

tropic dagger
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It was the "easy" operating system.

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You just popped a CD in, went through setup, and your computer was just ready to serve.

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Windows did everything for you. Just sit back and use the Microsoft Office Suite or play computer games.

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Linux was very similar but never branded itself the same way.

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Linux was for the people who were super good at computers despite only just being more customizable.

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It's like IOS vs Android.
In the end they're the same thing but one just has more customizations.

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Windows is actually a very shitty operating system.

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PC locked during updates, huge performance impact.

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Not a good environment for software development.

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The only reason it's popular now is because it was popular then.

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All it takes is a little effort and dropping a chromosome to realize that Windows isn't as great as you think it is.

hasty bane
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win10 eats like half my ram by just existing

main brook
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windows is good

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for development

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not production

main brook
main brook
hasty bane
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how many giga do you hav

main brook
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3

hasty bane
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gigs*

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wew

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i have 8

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and windows eats like 30% just sitting there doing nothing

main brook
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bleh

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that's why

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i don't use windows

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even if i do

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i use it to ssh to my server

barren shale
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companies are focusing more on windows

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when i tried to use blender in linux

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crashed every 5 mins

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wasnt fun

main brook
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plus on early days

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not much people know how computer works

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advertising linux is eh

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plus its open source

barren shale
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things that most people does not care about

knotty root
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Thats bad

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I love linux except for that

rotund ether
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Hello

deft anvil
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Hi

orchid frigate
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if microsoft didnt market windows like its wheel 2.0 now more people would use something different then windows on a regular basis

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and maybe i wouldnt be stuck with this trash

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every day i just start hating windows more and more

barren shale
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Windows being more popular made it a better os than anything else

orchid frigate
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I think we have a different understanding of quality

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For me a quality product is something i enjoy using ans see that there is thought put in it

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Your quality is as long as more people use it its a good product

barren shale
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I’m just pointing out that Linux is free and windows is still used more

orchid frigate
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The main reason i see for that is linux is always advertised to be more difficult and thus pulling everyone that doesnt wanna read 2 line documentation away

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And compatibility with windows programs but that all came with windows gaining popularity

barren shale
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Because it’s better in general

orchid frigate
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Look i dont agree to that

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I have been using windows my whole life

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And i would say its not a good os

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Its good for lets say

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Gaming or using one of those office softwares which i think are also pretty shit but still

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But for anything else? Nah man it sucks

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Its like unity

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Too many unnecessary features making it run and perform like shit

barren shale
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Linux preformed worse for me

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Also windows is the main platform for most productivity apps

orchid frigate
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Its not customisable what so ever

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No different desktop environments

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And file system is trash

main brook
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indeed i agreed with you

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so if your system went wrong

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get ready for a rollback

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linux: haha yes just delete this file

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also

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turns out

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my memory has 600mb left to use

barren shale
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have fun having 5 apps not working because you deleted 1 app

orchid frigate
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I would rather that then having to fully reinstall because there is like 1 virus that barely exists

main brook
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what's called

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dependencies

main brook
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my system anti virus on windows just

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"this file is a trojan"

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when all i did was download a tar.gz

barren shale
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it will say its a trojan

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its just something that some files have and virus uses

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so to be on the safe side anti viruses say its a trojan

barren shale
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idk if ur bad with fake download links or something

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downloading ram ?

barren shale
main brook
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newer dep tools don't do thst

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conflict can happen

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and that's why

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so if you need multiple dependencies

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and one of your app is deleted and depends on that dependency

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it'll try to warn you

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ask you

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or heck even just ignore it

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and purge other unused ones

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example, python poetry

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yarn, npm

barren shale
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who would want to delete dependencies if they are used by other apps

main brook
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...

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what the

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that's not the point

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i guess hamza is hard to talk to as always

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block time

barren shale
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linux bad

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windows good

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linux is too specific

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windows is more general

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not gonna argue about it anymore

hasty bane
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windows is good if you no code

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linux is good if you code

main brook
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no

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windows is good for development

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linux is good for production

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libs mostly provide that information

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"it is not recommended to run [lib name here] on windows for production"

hasty bane
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do not run linux (a python libary) on windows

main brook
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yes

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and also stuff like

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iocp on windows

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while on linux its like

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epoll or select

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which both are available on unix

hasty bane
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i've no idea what these words mean

main brook
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its basically

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lets see

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a multiplexer

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if i remember

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so like your code blocks until a file descriptor event is ready

hasty bane
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interesting

stoic hornet
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Hi

main brook
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so if your fd is waiting to be read, it'll block until its ready to be read

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its mostly useful on networking

hasty bane
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👀

main brook
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but system fd are useful too

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like the stdin

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and also

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iocp sucks

hasty bane
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how many years of coding experience do you have

main brook
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almost 3

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next november is my anniversary

hasty bane
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👀 i have like 9 months

main brook
main brook
hasty bane
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ig

main brook
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most people either got consumed by overconfident

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or gave up at some point

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9 month is nice progress

hasty bane
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well

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i do it pretty casually

main brook
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same here

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i don't even join those coding competition

hasty bane
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lel

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i recently found out that there's some pretty cool coding bootcamp program

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for ai

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👀 signed up for it
hopefully i'll get in

main brook
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yes

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goodluck on the part where you learn

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what's the language though

hasty bane
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python :D

main brook
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oh phew

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don't try AI with Java

hasty bane
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ye

main brook
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you'll literally wanna feel like you're never alive

hasty bane
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lmao

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i got into js recently

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and by that i mean 2 days

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my brain's melting when im trying to write smth

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so for now im pretty much just copypasting code from docs or stackoverflow

main brook
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bleh

hasty bane
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while learning how it works

main brook
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am i the only one not copy pasting code from SO

hasty bane
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probably

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it's much easier and faster to copy paste code, test it and then learn what it does

main brook
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well not here

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i don't want this

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rm -fr /
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to run

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without knowing what it does

hasty bane
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Aliens well yeah

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but you know what i mean

main brook
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and i know what it means

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it means

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"delete all french files from the system"

main brook
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some people do that

hasty bane
main brook
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don't

hasty bane
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remove the french from my pc

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no colonies allowed

main brook
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its literally gonna delete your whole disk

hasty bane
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wtf i've been bamboozled

main brook
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see what i mean

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i suggest doing shits on a chroot honestly

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or a vm

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like running a shady code

hasty bane
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👀 i haven't stumbled upon malicious code on SO yet

main brook
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good

hasty bane
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pretty sure people call that stuff out

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and i always read the entire thread or whatever

main brook
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good

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some people ended up like this

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50% "ill learn how it works"
50% "yay it works, now im not gonna learn why it works"

hasty bane
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50% "ill learn how it works"
im in this 50%

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usually

main brook
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great

hasty bane
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if not then i eventually come back to the code and i just dont understand what it means so i have to re-research everything i didnt comment

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if there's one thing i hate about programming its not knowing what thing X does

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especially if thing Y is dependent on thing X and it just snowballs from there

main brook
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bleh

hasty bane
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actually no

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the one thing would be doing math

barren shale
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been doing it for 6 years

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no problems

hasty bane
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Jerry i code on windows too

barren shale
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i code on linux too

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did it for 1 year

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had a lot of problems

hasty bane
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¯_(ツ)_/¯

barren shale
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either i am very unlucky

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or linux sucks

hasty bane
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i think you're very unlucky

main brook
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hamza is like