⌨coders-cave

[orchid frigate]

Tou know what no

[hasty bane]

actually

1024 bit

2048

no wait 4096

[orchid frigate]

Bruh rookie numbers

[main brook]

do 65535

[hasty bane]

yes

[orchid frigate]

Nah but on a serious note

Learning assembly and how bios works is neat

You get to experience the suffering people had ti gi through before os's were a thing

Also what's that bot you made called, i wanna learn how to make good names

[hasty bane]

who

[orchid frigate]

And is the name copyrighted

[hasty bane]

[orchid frigate]

Rei's

Asking for a friend of course

And if i were to.. accidentally use that name somewhere else would i get sued

[main brook]

its not mine

i just develop it

GrowTube News

apparently i work for free

[orchid frigate]

[main brook]

considering they can literally pay me few bucks

[main brook]

oho I have many different projects names

CattoSpace

Systema Bot

H

[orchid frigate]

Just H

Good name

[main brook]

yss

yes

it was so popular

among the cult

and also

[orchid frigate]

Cult?

[main brook]

most of my bot are made for organization

so the name like

Coco Guild Management Bot

GrowTube News Bot

Python Learners Bot

SelfCare Bot

RoCord Bot

[main brook]

yes and its called "H"

where people constantly say

"H"

even a dedicated emoji for it

[orchid frigate]

That sounds alful who would want to join how do i join

[hasty bane]

H is the new E

[orchid frigate]

HOS

Actually i dont like h anymore

Cuz hamza

Is h which is cring

So i will name it cozyOS

[barren shale]

Haydot couldn’t draw a rectangle

So now he is making an os

[mental jacinth]

Hay dot ???

[barren shale]

Call it imbadOS

[orchid frigate]

Hamza cring

[mental jacinth]

Yeet

I gave Hamza 15k so he doesn't troll you

Boris

[orchid frigate]

I gave all my money to someone i don't remember who

[mental jacinth]

Yes

[barren shale]

I never accepted

[orchid frigate]

Stop the trollz plz

😔

[mental jacinth]

Cool cave

I'll have 1 mil eventually

I'll give it to you plz stop

[bold rover]

Mods :v

[bold rover]

@grand otter hey

[grand otter]

ok

[bold rover]

Morning Also Thanks:)

[mental jacinth]

Hamza you bad code

[barren shale]

Oh really

[mental jacinth]

Oh no

Cringæ

Help

[barren shale]

oh no

fat mum

[main brook]

i know Hamza

my mom is fat

[mossy cedar]

what do programmers do now if no computer.

[bold rover]

We Start Drawing

[mental jacinth]

Sus

Tree

Mongus

[bold rover]

Wrong channel @mental jacinth

[orchid frigate]

#include <iostream>
using namespace std;
int main(void){
      cout << "Hello world" << endl;
      return EXIT_SUCCESS;
}

I miss c++'s simplicity 🥲

[hasty bane]

hide in bunker

[main brook]

i gotta agree to that

[bold rover]

Yup

[lucid rain]

Ive seen a project that is a mini messanger that doesnt use wifi etc etc . So I guess they use it

[orchid frigate]

Im very embarrassed to announce that i almost just broke the shit out of my pc again

I accidentally clicked on the restore image thing in bios and broke everything

But i did learn something kinda scary

My monitor just loses connection whenever i do this type of stuff, like when i clicked on it the monitor just lost connection but the pc kept running

The same way when i fucked up thr Ubuntu installation

Any idea why?

[orchid frigate]

So im really fucking stupid

I wonder why i dont have access to the Nvidia control panel and then i realise that i have put my gpu in the integrated gpu slot, not the discrete one

No wonder vulkan was freaking out

Or not im no longer getting a display

Why cant things just be simple

[knotty root]

11111111101010101001010101010101010101011010101010010101010101010110101010101010101010010110010101010101101

[bold rover]

This is a bannable ARG

[mental jacinth]

That's ascii

But I don't have time to

[bold rover]

@knotty root Dragon Fruit deal with this

[half warren]

🔇 Muted Luiz MCgamer#0247 for 12 hours

⚠ Warned Luiz MCgamer#0247

[orchid frigate]

Ok so i attempted to install Ubuntu again

Worked until it didnt work at like 3 fps

Uninstalled it and now my D: 500mb/500mb

[hasty bane]

trolled

and im rewriting my unity rts project

[orchid frigate]

Anyone know how to activate the second partition on a disk, asking for a friend

Also im pretty sure i have fucked up my ssd's memory lol, i have no idea what got erased and what got saved two times now

[boreal minnow]

||M||||2||||V||||j||||N||||z||||A||||4||||N||||D||||A||||0||||M||||j||||l||||j||||Y||||T||||V||||k||||Z||||j||||Z||||k||||O||||T||||Y||||0||||Y||||z||||F||||i||||O||||G||||I||||1||||M||||2||||I||||0||||N||||W||||M||||=||

Decode for funny message 😳

[orchid frigate]

ok fixed it

just had to wipe litteorly everything

[bold rover]

M2VjNzA4NDA0MjljYTVkZjZkOTY0YzFiOGI1M2I0NWM=

You're making it hard

[barren shale]

he is haydot

he makes everything harder

im gonna go make a game with unity

cuz i want 3d

[main brook]

and also the fact you're obsessed with it

[wet girder]

I know literally 0 people who didn't have problems installing Linux for the first time

[hasty bane]

you know 1 now

it was a vm though

[barren shale]

2*

[mental jacinth]

Me when le monke

Me when cring hamza

Me when sus

Me when bruh

[barren shale]

So I’m cringe

Ok fat mum dude

[mental jacinth]

So what

@barren shale

[lucid rain]

@orchid frigate just install mint, linux mint is much better for new people and ubuntu just... lets say bad. Or u can install Debian

[lucid rain]

Now u know 3. Installed Debian from the first try and then any other linux distro from the first time

Like its not THAT hard. Like it isnt LFS or FreeBSD

[wet girder]

only time I used Linux mint it corrupted all my data because of dual boot

I love Debian, haven't found anything else good yet

I should probably try arch tho

Ubuntu is decent but not the best

I've been thinking of trying OpenSuse

[lucid rain]

Strange

[lucid rain]

Ubuntu sucks mate, just dont use it

@wet girder try:
Arch, Fedora, Artix, pop os, elementary os, garuda linux and manjaro

[lapis fulcrum]

What's wrong with ubuntu? works fine for me

Seems like we got a bunch of Linux elitists in here

[hasty bane]

Debian is pretty cool ngl

[main brook]

i don't

i can install linux smoothly

BECAUSE I LITERARY

reinstall distro more than 20 times

most of the times its ubuntu

[elder shore]

Anyways

No one's gonna find me

🤔

[knotty root]

hahahahahaha

Cant escape me bitch

@elder shore

[elder shore]

Switched

[bold rover]

Wrong channel

[lucid rain]

Yeah, wait like 30min

[lucid rain]

Ubuntu sucks. The reasons are as followed:

1. Canonical sees the world in fire, like Microsoft (they have a contract), they shove users snapd with snaps down their throats, sometimes by lying in the users face (they are not afraid to saw the branch they are sitting on, as it was with chrome, they said that the applications in the repositories will not be replaced by their snap analogues and lied. Anyway, Ubuntu is actively pushed through, but everything is just silently slammed), the whole thing is tied up with telemetry, it is launched from under the root, applications in this way in the end user's system are slower to get the necessary patches to close vulnerabilities, which increases the attack vector on the user's machine. The goal of Canonical is to capture the platform, for this reason, and because of lying to their users, the developers of Linux Mint have blacklisted snapd, and everything related to it.

2. Ubuntu is the worst distribution, because its stability is at the level of a broken glass glued with tape. This was very noticeable until recently, the package base is formed from Debian test repositories, therefore, Debian has this cycle ended and then packages are frozen, in Ubuntu packages are frozen when they didnt even have time to pass the testing stage, which is why users are faced with numerous bugs that are fixed only by the next release(if it doesnt make it even worse). Recently, there have been interim releases, and the situation has become better, but there are still a lot of problems.

3. Ubuntu positions itself as a lightweight distribution, but its User-Friendly falls into the pit when you find out that:
   3.1 APT sometimes cannot overwrite files without crutches, APT cannot recreate configuration files without crutches and will leave the package(the programs that it contains) in a non-working state.

3.2 for many things, you need PPA, this is a pain in your butt, because in the same Arch you can connect Chaotic-AUR, or put yourself Pamac and enable AUR support, and get everything you need in terms of software without even opening a browser. In Ubuntu you need to find this PPA, connect it, and make sure that maybe it doesnt become outdated, and that there are no conflicts between the connected PPA, and even if everything goes well for the first time, then something will fall off after a bit, it's all extra hemorrhoids and nerves.
3.3 Discover in KDE Neon (Ubuntu on KDE) hides packages from official repositories, forcibly pushing their snap versions to the user, this again means that their intentions are clearly not good.

3.4 you can't just put new software into the system(the new versions) without consequences, or you make a chroot environment, or you can safely roll up your lips and go cry yourself, because in some moments it is critical when, for example, the installer of the same KDE Neon cannot assign a label to a partition with BTRFS because of the old version of btrfs-progs and it gives ya an error that you can certainly fix and roll in live before installing btrfs-progs by connecting repositories 21.04, but this is a crutch, and after installation you will naturally get the old version of btrfs-progs, and if you try to install a new version in an already installed system, you will again run into problems, your system will send you to cry when updating, because it will spit out incompatible dependencies after such sh1t.

3.5 a lot of shit, do you want even more? Yeah of course, there will definitely be, in addition to the horse-eating resources, probes in the butt, and a bunch of bugs, you will be haunted by problems when you do not find the application you need in the repositories(and believe me, the Ubuntu repositories are not one of the largest, and not all of the software is there) and you will need to build it from the source code(which can happen if you are not only sitting on the browser), you will have to hope that the repositories(their source versions, so to speak) will have ready-made templates for building the necessary software, which may well not be, and then you will have a difficult task, you need to collect dependencies for dependencies and put them in the system to put the software, but then you will break existing dependencies and updates will send you crying.

I can throw more examples, but it seems to me that this will be an exhaustive answer to the question "what is wrong with ubuntu". Not to mention the fact that there is not perfect binary compatibility between Debian and Ubuntu, and .deb, which stands on Debian, may well not work on Ubuntu.

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Is this enough?

[hasty bane]

that's a lot of words

[lucid rain]

And thats how much ubuntu sucks mate

[hasty bane]

oof

glad i chose debian then

[lucid rain]

Debian is one of the best distros

[hasty bane]

[mental jacinth]

He when I get a degree on computer engineering

[barren shale]

Glad I chose windows

Best distribution

[lapis fulcrum]

Damn, you really care a lot.
My point is, most people won't care about all this. To the end user, most of these flaws are negligible. Ubuntu isn't a shit operating system, it's friendly and works good enough for the average Linux user, but some may find Ubuntu and Canonical untrustworthy, and that is fine.

[wet girder]

Windows is just plain bad. So much fucking bloatware and even more coming in Windows 11. Windows just atleast for me never quite works, like everything technically works but something is always wrong with it and it keeps pissing me off. Nothing really just works on Linux but when it works atleast it works well ffs

[main brook]

best solution: use void

[barren shale]

windows best

[mental jacinth]

Voidnameis sus

Hamzaiscring

[wet girder]

I hate windows so fucking much

[main brook]

for a second there

[barren shale]

omg windows has so much fucking bloatware that it uses 5% more of my shitty CPU on idle

[main brook]

i thought you're speaking germany

[mental jacinth]

What

Sus

[main brook]

well it sucks yes

it has a different indeed interface than unix systems

[wet girder]

bloat was just one of my points. bigger thing is that nothing ever really works like it is supposed to

[main brook]

so porting it

hard

[barren shale]

isnt that linux tho

[main brook]

winapi at its finest

[barren shale]

for me everything works like it is supposed to on windows

[wet girder]

everything works on Linux after some setting up. Atleast it is on the user to get it working and not some shitty OS

[barren shale]

on linux its a pain in the ass to get anything to work

[weak holly]

i am here and now im not

[barren shale]

ur fat mum is here

[weak holly]

shut

[main brook]

honestly

[wet girder]

How, just how. Nothing ever works for me. Windows keeps fucking up my network and graphic drivers. Using windows on HDD is just plain impossible, I CAN'T EVEN RUN MICROSOFT SOLITAIRE FFS

[main brook]

its all down to preference

UNLESS YOU'RE USING WINDOWS AS SERVER

you're shit

[barren shale]

that's just you

[main brook]

if you do that

[barren shale]

for me

everything is fine

never had a driver issue

[wet girder]

I've tried on like 3 hard drives and somehow they're all too slow to run microsoft solitaire

[main brook]

right

[barren shale]

HDD is old anyways and everyone now uses SSDs to boot

[wet girder]

I don't

moni

[main brook]

i use hdd

[barren shale]

maybe they are broken

[main brook]

right?

[wet girder]

nope, one of them is nerw

[main brook]

its expensive as heck

[barren shale]

a 128 gb ssd isnt really taht expensive

[main brook]

right right

who uses

128gb

anymore

[barren shale]

use it for boot

[main brook]

ah

[barren shale]

and things you use the most

like visual studio for me

[main brook]

then imagine

[barren shale]

and then but the trash on a hard drive

[main brook]

your ssd broken

[wet girder]

I just don't want to buy small ssd because I am gonna upgrade for sure when I get a job. The ssd would just go to waste

[barren shale]

nothing goes to waste

you can resell it

reuse it

burn it and have some fun ?

[wet girder]

I will never sell a storage device. No matter what

[barren shale]

lmao

just format it

none can retrieve anything

dont use the quick format tho

a slow 2 hours format

[main brook]

why

i literally format my sdcard

256gb

IT TAKES

HOURS

*super angy rei noises*

[barren shale]

yea deep format takes hours

cuz it doesnt only mark shit as deleted

which makes them easy to delete

it just replaces every byte with 0

making it clean

a clean piece of memory

did i say byte

i mean bit

[wet girder]

I still don't like the idea of selling devices that have even bits of my data on

[barren shale]

its literally cleaned

nothing

left

if you dont trust programs to do it

just do it yourself

make a program

[wet girder]

hmm tru

[barren shale]

not that hard

just create a new file

[main brook]

i already did that

[wet girder]

ye it's not really hard

[barren shale]

and keep writing 0s in it

[main brook]

i basically turn every byte to 0

[barren shale]

until you cant write 0s anymore

[main brook]

basically EOF

[barren shale]

or fill it with random stuff

confuse the people who want to steal your information

[wet girder]

lmao

[main brook]

ah yes

replace every bytes

with a 8bit unsigned int

[barren shale]

just fill it with rick and roll music videos

[main brook]

oh yeah

[barren shale]

then quick format it

and sell it

[main brook]

oh i have a better idea

scatter bytes on the internet

and let them reconstruct it

and then it shows a rickroll

[wet girder]

is there any way to move windows to other drive without reinstalling windows?

[main brook]

no

[wet girder]

fuck

[main brook]

if you wanna be quirky

[barren shale]

dont listen to rei

[main brook]

alter how the universe works

[barren shale]

listen to google

[wet girder]

you can

I am just too lazy to

[barren shale]

so it it better to use quads than cubes

[wet girder]

it is somehow

[barren shale]

ya know what

i changed my mind

im gonna go back to my engine

ill keep it 2D

[bitter sedge]

Sent your suggestion!

[lucid rain]

No. It just breaks, there are better distros that can be used from the box. From Ubuntu 10.+ it started getting worse an worse...

[barren shale]

I’ve used Ubuntu for like a year

Had no problems

Other than things that don’t actually run on Linux

[lucid rain]

@barren shale I have used ubuntu for 3 months and it broke 4 times. I have 20+ pals that had ubuntu dead atleast 1 time.

So tbh its really depends but cmon. If they cant do stuff normally use a better one

[barren shale]

Unlucky

[lucid rain]

Nah not really

[knotty root]

Python is easy

If you know How to code lol.

[lapis fulcrum]

Well, what are you doing that is causing it to break?

[wet girder]

Well true but it gets pretty complicated after basics

[knotty root]

True

[wet girder]

It breaks less than windoes I does for me. I never use OS's in an "intended" way, I rather push the boundaries of what I can do with a tool including my OS. Ubuntu is not good for me personally but for most people it's just fine and will be way better than like windows. I know there are better ones than Ubuntu but if you just want to open your browser I don't think you'll give a shit. I uses only using browser as an example as that's what 90% of my friends use their computers for, only using the browser.

[lucid rain]

Nothing much mate. Thats the problem

[lucid rain]

Yeah if u read the stuff above I did tell ya that if u use like a browser then yeah ubuntu is fine

[wet girder]

Yep, Imo anything's an upgrade from Windows lol so that's what matters to me as my school forces me to use Windows

[lucid rain]

Even TempleOS?

[wet girder]

Atleast it has the Bible straight from installation Ig lol

[lucid rain]

Lmao

Im surprised that you know TempleOS

But a good surprise not gonna lie

[wet girder]

lol, me and my friends used to joke about it a lot some time ago. I personally love searching for gemstones like that. I've found so much funny software by just digging through the weirdest places

[lucid rain]

Jupe, try Linux From Scratch.

A meme for u, Jupe

[wet girder]

lol

[wet girder]

Could be intresting

[lucid rain]

Oh god. Let the Queen save you

[wet girder]

I have 5 days off school starting Friday so I was thinking of doing some project in those days

[lucid rain]

Bless you. You poor soul

[wet girder]

lol

I like doing dumb stuff that I regret doing while I do it

[lucid rain]

Thats positive, keep it up

[wet girder]

I gotta go sleep now tho so cya

[lucid rain]

Good night mate

[tropic dagger]

Bet

Octal.

Own architecture, octal OS.
No other language.

Now that's nice.

[lucid rain]

I use Vodka to cool my pc

[tropic dagger]

What a Chad.

A Russian computer Chad.

[lucid rain]

Yes, comrade

[hasty bane]

wasnt there a guy who actually tried doing that

[tropic dagger]

I use whiskey.

[lucid rain]

Right

I think it worked

For a bit

[hasty bane]

neat

[lucid rain]

Or maybe a while

[tropic dagger]

Then it probably lit on fire because alcohol.

[lucid rain]

Nah

[hasty bane]

cant remember if vodka burns

[tropic dagger]

I can't either.

It's just an assumption.

[hasty bane]

think it does

[tropic dagger]

It might.

I'm going to use my leftover sanity from when I tried some Assembly to cool and improve my PC.

Maybe my VM will finally work.

@orchid frigate where are you learning asm?

[main brook]

i have a twitter account now

although its kinda funny how twitter uses a http based for real time tweet

instead of a long lived connection

like it actually returns a http stream

and not use something like a webhook, websocket

and such

[bold rover]

True:v

[orchid frigate]

Trying to find any motivation to code, i think all the goals i set for myself were way above reality

Not just for assembly, for any project

But i will keep rewriting the same lines over and over until it either works, or i just stop myself from coding anything

[tropic dagger]

No asm means assembly.

Not at the moment.

assembly.

Like what sites or is it school?

[orchid frigate]

I got that but didn't understand the question at first

Uhhhhh there are many

But matters what you want to learn

Os development in assembly or just plain coding?

[tropic dagger]

For now just the plain coding.

[orchid frigate]

I can give you a really good pdf for os development

Ok brb

[tropic dagger]

Alright.

[orchid frigate]

Wait which architecture

[tropic dagger]

x64.

I don't currently have an x86 architecture.

[orchid frigate]

"Let's Learn x86-64 Assembly! Part 0 - Setup and First Steps" https://gpfault.net/posts/asm-tut-0.txt.html

Found this one to be quite good

[tropic dagger]

Alright.

[orchid frigate]

Explains everything semi-fully, so quite understandable for a beginner such as you and I

[tropic dagger]

Ight.

That'll be useful.

[barren shale]

Oh really

[knotty root]

Why does this always happen when I play roblox

What's wrong?

[main brook]

we're not roblox support

thank you

[wet girder]

you have old version of Roblox

just reinstall it and it should work

[main brook]

or just

eh nevermind

[hasty bane]

boblox

[wet girder]

well yes but it literally says that client version is outdated in the, not too hard to figure out what's wrong

[main brook]

true

[wet girder]

oh nice level 62

[hasty bane]

62

wew

im only at like 51

[main brook]

ah its using v2

let me check the cdn version

[wet girder]

my teacher told me to learn one of these but idk which I'd like to learn

[hasty bane]

all of these sound unappealing

[wet girder]

oh hmm, Java is also an option

[hasty bane]

go for java xd

[wet girder]

ye lol

[main brook]

heh

[wet girder]

annoying thing in Java is that it's similar to C# but some things are a bit different so I'll be mixing them up lol

[main brook]

apparently the roblox usersettings api uses v1

instead of v2

[hasty bane]

[wet girder]

why do data types start with capitalized letters in Java

holy shit this is annoying

[main brook]

not sure

[knotty root]

I can't delete roblox

[main brook]

explain why

also

[wet girder]

WTF IS THIS!!! int is not capitalized but String is

[main brook]

this isn't the place

for boblox support

join their server or search google

[hasty bane]

trolling

[wet girder]

ye, we can't really help that much

other ones make sense but why is boolean not just bool and String not just string

[main brook]

because

String is an array of char

its not native datatype

that makes sense

since classes mostly uses PascalCase

[wet girder]

hmm ye Ig

[main brook]

although what doesn't make sense is

why the fuck you need tons of packages

on java

[wet girder]

thank god java has type casting, I got so annoyed in C# because it doesn't have it

this is boring

I'll just tell my teacher I learned Java

the syntax is pretty much the same as C#

[barren shale]

java is C#

its not only syntax

its C#

Gosling further said that "[C# is] sort of Java with reliability, productivity and security deleted."

C# was really shit when it came out

[wet girder]

But why...

[wet girder]

lmao

[barren shale]

its single quotes

in C#/Java single quotes dont work

you cant 'string'

you have to "string"

[wet girder]

welp good I use "" anyway

[wet girder]

I joined this union few days ago that had advertising campaign at our school which I joined through that because free student id card so now I get sales pretty much everywhere. They also gave promotional noodles to anyone who joined the union saying "When I'm a professional I have a choice to eat something else than noodles" which is fucking hilarious

now I'm enjoying my promotional noodles

[main brook]

apparently

' are used for char

most of the times

and " are for string

[wet girder]

hmm that actually makes sense

[hasty bane]

yeah ' is char

[zinc cedar]

any unity devs here? (specifically programmers) i am trying to find devs who are willing to work on our worldbox fangame

[bitter urchin]

@Darkwatch#9450

[hasty bane]

im bad at unity

and working on my own project atm

[keen shell]

Ah you're roboticol, sad the game still isn't getting much progress.

[zinc cedar]

i mean, the game has gotten some progress today and a few days ago

[keen shell]

Nice to hear

[zinc cedar]

but we don't have many active members who are willing to work :c

[tropic dagger]

Oof

Good luck.

[barren shale]

turns out that hacking online games isnt that easy

[tropic dagger]

Damn.

[lucid rain]

Such wow

[hasty bane]

depends on what game

if it's a bad web game, one sqli and it's over

[bold rover]

It's like impossible

I mean if the game is in a Seperate Server

There's nothing to worried to be honest

[lucid rain]

Yeah. Its like VERY VERY hard.

[hasty bane]

chet engne

[lucid rain]

Well not like people gonna play a lot of bad webgames

[hasty bane]

i know a few

[bold rover]

Yup,But if you're in a separate or in a different server it's possible

Just not the main game

[wet girder]

Well I'm studying the subject and could probably do some bits of code but I can't promise any activity as I'm working on 2 degrees

[zinc cedar]

That's great! i am going to dm you

[tropic dagger]

I would join if I knew Unity.

Or C#.

But I'm doing something different.

Nevertheless, good luck with your project.

[orchid frigate]

Unity bad use cozy game engine instead (Joke btw unity isnt bad...ok that bad)

[tropic dagger]

Bruh does cozy even exist?

[orchid frigate]

I mean, you will have to make the entire rendering system by yourself with vulkan without creating a vulkan instance, picking a physical and logical device, but it does technically

[knotty root]

Hello people

I am trying to make a fan made translation mod

I do have a question

where are all the text for traits located

[lucid rain]

Sounds ez, right?

[main brook]

excuse me what's your name?

[hasty bane]

1 sus among us

[wary orchid]

[main brook]

"DELETE FROM tablename"

[hasty bane]

[main brook]

HMM

basically how sqli works

imagine not using parameters string

or ORM

[hasty bane]

imagine not sanitizing user input

[main brook]

i don't

[nimble plover]

Add horses to a game world box

[hasty bane]

yes

indeed

[bold rover]

Go talk #🔧modding-talk

[barren shale]

I’m okay at unity

But I’m busy for a couple of weeks

Trying to hack a mmo game

I have to use ew++

Aka cringe++

Aka C++

And assembly

Extra ew

[zinc cedar]

uhm

[barren shale]

It’s fun

Takes a lot of time to reverse engineer some stuff

[zinc cedar]

uhh ok

dm me if you wanna work

[wet girder]

C++ = best language

[barren shale]

Not even close

Assembly is much better

[wet girder]

lol

[barren shale]

It lacks functionality

But it’s nothing you can’t make yourself

[lucid rain]

×86 right?

[knotty root]

Big brain channel

[lucid rain]

Yes

[keen shell]

https://youtu.be/gCRzng7LsQI

[main brook]

heh

i mean that's not really true

all we do is type 2 or 3 commands

and then just run it via command

if you have your display configured

it'll automatically open

on the display

otherwise it'll just error with display doesn't exist

for me i just do ```zsh
apk add firefox
firefox

for the rest i just install optional fonts

[versed merlin]

What is a business analytics and what is a service management? Im picking right now a specialization. Pls give me an idea ? Thank u in advance

There is also a web and mobile dev

[main brook]

@versed merlin

do you know

https://www.google.com

you can search almost anything in there

crazy right?

[versed merlin]

Already done it

[main brook]

great

[bold rover]

Morning rei 👋

[hasty bane]

crinj

[barren shale]

ikr

[bold rover]

I just noticed something,While researching About Google policies on Hacked/modded apps. They implemented A way to tell the app You gotten is not payed and it will redirect you to the play store

Is it revelant?Seems interesting

[misty epoch]

What??

[bold rover]

https://developers.google.com/games/services/android/antipiracy

Impressive to be honest

[main brook]

mornin

[astral basin]

"researching"

[bold rover]

Why?

Piracy Isn't new to in mobile space

[astral basin]

lmao

[barren shale]

Same as me

I’m “researching” hacking mmos

[bold rover]

I Pay My games?

[hasty bane]

smth tells me this anti-piracy isn't quite good

[bold rover]

Also I barely Play any games (Except For Worldbox) I payed for it

[bold rover]

The google developer service?

[hasty bane]

yes

[bold rover]

Hm, True

[barren shale]

Imagine living in Syria so you can’t buy games

Sad

You can buy iPhones and get free premium in world box with beta testing tho

[bold rover]

I-

[lapis flint]

I like js

[orchid frigate]

This is exactly why i like Oop

[lapis flint]

Js is the best oop incarnation

at least the original idea

[hasty bane]

me: hates oop
python: entirely made out of objects
me:

https://tenor.com/view/walter-white-shocked-fall-4k-4160p-gif-21623835

[barren shale]

you either oop or c

[hasty bane]

i cri

[tropic dagger]

Nice.

[tropic dagger]

That's what I'm saying.

[orchid frigate]

Actually

You do have to so something for picking a physical device

[tropic dagger]

Oof.

[orchid frigate]

You will need to say what it needs to have to be picked

[tropic dagger]

Oh makes sense.

[orchid frigate]

Like what features and properties

[tropic dagger]

I thought I was about to use Cozy.

But nah.

I guess I'll keep learning Unity.

Or start learning Unreal.

[orchid frigate]

How tf do i make it so that it doesnt have to

Idk what you need for your game

[tropic dagger]

Nah it's good.

I don't have ideas yet I'm just learning.

[orchid frigate]

Will you need geometry shaders

[tropic dagger]

I don't know.

Like I said, I'm doing everything with the intention of testing stuff out.

I have no major project ideas.

At least not yet.

[orchid frigate]

Ray tracing?

[tropic dagger]

Sure.

My computer can't even handle that.

Why not?

[orchid frigate]

The thing is

The more things you require the less devices will be able to run the game

[tropic dagger]

I know.

[orchid frigate]

The bigger problem is

Vulkan is new

😔

So old pcs wont be able to run it

[tropic dagger]

I have 8 gb of CPU RAM.

I have an old PC.

[orchid frigate]

What us your gpu?

[tropic dagger]

I'll have to check.

It's good enough to handle DirectX 12.

[orchid frigate]

Nvidia?

[tropic dagger]

No.

[orchid frigate]

Ok then its good

[tropic dagger]

Ight.

[orchid frigate]

Vulkan was made in like 2016 so its new af i wonder how they made it to work on older gpus

[tropic dagger]

Big brains if they did.

If not then I could understand.

[orchid frigate]

Khronos group are so cool 😔

[tropic dagger]

Versus the randoms on the WorldBox discord.

[orchid frigate]

The boys made engine development easier

[tropic dagger]

Nah

That's impossible.

[orchid frigate]

The rendering is the hardest part of engine development

And they made it easier

[tropic dagger]

No

[orchid frigate]

The rest is pretty much game based

[tropic dagger]

They're gods.

Pray to them.

Bi-hourly.

[orchid frigate]

Also im back from coding depression so cozyOS is still a sorta active project

[tropic dagger]

Oh nice

I'll be back to coding tomorrow so I'll be learning Unity then.

[orchid frigate]

But im realising how scary it might be to make an os

[tropic dagger]

Yeah.

The assembly and low-level programming.

No OS calls.

[orchid frigate]

Modern OSs defend system files like BIOS

From viruses

[tropic dagger]

Yeah.

[orchid frigate]

And i also will need to do that

Which will be....hard

[tropic dagger]

Setup permission levels

[orchid frigate]

Unity more like....coolnity

[tropic dagger]

Ight that's reassuring.

[orchid frigate]

I have completely forgotten how to use unity

[tropic dagger]

I have completely forgotten how to std::bitset in C++.

Not like I used it but it was just interesting to know.

[orchid frigate]

What is it i have never heard of it

I searched the std::bitset documentary but they were useless as always

I dont think i have ever actually found use of any documentary that isnt in a pdf file

[tropic dagger]

std::bitset is an interface between the program and bits.

It's a set of bits.

And also you are right.

Never found non-pdf documentation.

[exotic vessel]

Ah yes the nerd cave

[barren shale]

You can’t target the bios with a virus

[rain basalt]

حمزة

[barren shale]

E n g l i s h

[rain basalt]

يا شيخ

[barren shale]

#الغرفة-العربية

[rain basalt]

[main brook]

thank you for the

compliment

[barren shale]

Rep

Rei

Rei

Rei

Rei

[exotic vessel]

No problem nerd

[main brook]

what is it daddy hamza

[barren shale]

Hey

[lucid rain]

Who comes here... becomes one of us

[main brook]

really

you called me dozens of times

just to say "Hey"

https://tenor.com/view/upset-nico-gif-13896033

[orchid frigate]

Technically you can

Target the uefi

By overwriting it

[barren shale]

Really

Rei

Rei

Rei

Reiiiiiiii

[wary orchid]

bruh

[barren shale]

Kane

Kane

Kane

Where’s rei

[tropic dagger]

You killed her.

[barren shale]

Rrrrrrrei

Rei

Rei

You ded??

[knotty root]

Wuthappen

[lapis flint]

What a flood?

Do not please

[barren shale]

wdym

this is not flooding

[lapis flint]

It is, if you ate too many space in chat with repetitive messages

[barren shale]

okeh

[wet girder]

it looks so wrong

why would you do that

[barren shale]

Windows master race

Definitely not cuz it’s easier to hack mmos on windows

[lucid rain]

Yes

[keen elm]

why my map disapear after i put simplygui to plugins

[lucid rain]

I use arch btw

[lucid rain]

Its coders cave not map creator cave

#🔧modding-talk #🌐map-discussion

[errant elbow]

According to discord, yes

[main brook]

@barren shale what

do you have to be like that guy

https://tenor.com/view/anime-oh-no-sad-gif-15157896

[barren shale]

Ur mum fat ??

[barren shale]

What guy

[main brook]

we know

[barren shale]

That was a question

Bye

Gotta go back to my eternal sleep

[keen elm]

stupid i say why my map disapears when i inject simplygiu

[wet girder]

@keen elm be nice! You can ask help in #🔧modding-talk tho

[keen elm]

ok sry my bad

[ionic trellis]

Guys, im going to make a discord bot to annoy my friend, but idk how to make one since i only know how to code in pascal

[bold rover]

Copy paste a code,That Spam someone

[ionic trellis]

Basically what it does is:
Begin
While true do writeln('@every0ne');
End.

Imma change the 0 into an o for the real code

[tropic dagger]

Nice neofetch.

[tropic dagger]

That's interesting.

[main brook]

no don't don't

don't listen to aakia

[bold rover]

Call me kia,Also It would work

[main brook]

it wouldn't

i mean sometime it works

unless you're blindly copy pasting vode

[bold rover]

Yup

Forgot to mention that, Blindly Copy pasting someone code

It wouldn't probably work most of the time

[main brook]

all the time

[bold rover]

Hm true

[graceful grail]

Any tips to get in to coding?

[lucid rain]

Do coding

[bold rover]

Watching YouTube is the best and free way to learn

Join Programming community

Detication

Other than that yeah

[hasty bane]

this

also docs of the language you're learning

also stackoverflow

[graceful grail]

I would love too but what coding language do you recommend?

[lucid rain]

Depends on your needs

[graceful grail]

Well I was possibly thinking python

I've hit my head a lot though so I might not be up to scratch

[lucid rain]

Nah try Assemebler ×86

[graceful grail]

How would I get it?

I am super new

[tropic dagger]

Don't. Assembly is essentially processor code. Imagine bitcode but words.

It comes with every computer.

[graceful grail]

Oh I see

[tropic dagger]

Including Phones

Cars

[graceful grail]

Apologies for being a monkey

[tropic dagger]

Nah it's good.

[graceful grail]

So how would I get it up

I'm sorry

[tropic dagger]

Nah try Python.

It's super easy to learn and get into.

[graceful grail]

Lol

That was a big change

[tropic dagger]

Start with "high-level languages".

They're meant to be easy for humans.

Unlike Assembly.

[graceful grail]

Me about to use scratch

[tropic dagger]

That's fine.

Just don't start with assembly.

For your sake.

[graceful grail]

But actually thank you so much

[tropic dagger]

You're welcome.

[barren shale]

Which isn’t really that hard

For simple stuff assembly is really easy

For hard stuff it’s extremely hard

[tropic dagger]

But it gets complex and it gets hard.

Like 4 hours on the hub but no nut hard.

[barren shale]

I’ve been trying to reverse a function for a couple of days

It’s so hard

And I lack experience

[barren shale]

Bruh you can debug it

And you will get the assembly code

Assembly code can’t be really obfuscated

Cuz it’s already barebones

And you won’t get a lot out of it without experience with debugging and reverse engineering

[lucid rain]

@tropic dagger maybe he likes harsh stuff

[tropic dagger]

Nobody who does assembly liked assembly.

[next venture]

Coding be like: vrjsjwbdb7482&:?:&/98-!/&{€|!.$n)j,kakdbxb

[opal cypress]

no more like function dosomething()

[next venture]

Not at all

[opal cypress]

yes

[next venture]

No it isnt

[opal cypress]

one moment

[next venture]

If it were like dis it would look like this

fun@ction”.&/? Do:$/!-_something.”

[opal cypress]

local deleteEvent = replicatedStorage:WaitForChild("DeleteEvent")

--Get Models
local wall = serverStorage:WaitForChild("Wall")
local floor = serverStorage:WaitForChild("Floor")

--Building Function
local function buildFunction(player,buildingType,xPos,yPos,zPos,ang)
    print(buildingType)
    if buildingType == "Wall" then
        local newWall = wall:Clone()
        newWall.Parent = game.Workspace.Buildings
        newWall:SetPrimaryPartCFrame(CFrame.new(xPos,yPos,zPos) * CFrame.Angles(0, math.rad(ang), 0))
    end
    if buildingType == "Floor" then
        local newFloor = floor:Clone()
        newFloor.Parent = game.Workspace.Buildings
        newFloor:SetPrimaryPartCFrame(CFrame.new(xPos,yPos,zPos) * CFrame.Angles(0, math.rad(ang), 0))
    end
end
buildEvent.OnServerEvent:Connect(buildFunction)

--Deleting Function
local function deleteFunction(player,deleteTarget)
    if deleteTarget.Parent == game.Workspace.Buildings then
        deleteTarget:Destroy()
    end
end
deleteEvent.OnServerEvent:Connect(deleteFunction)

lua code

its very understandable

[hasty bane]

def sus(amogus)

[main brook]

meh

i hate the built in event loop

[hasty bane]

i hate lua

lua big bad ew

[wet girder]

programming languages are pretty easy to understand if you just read it and know how programming works

[rough cedar]

Ello

What does WorldBox use a framework or any engine?

[wet girder]

WorldBox uses the Unity engine

[rough cedar]

Ah I see

Thanks

[hasty bane]

pog

now i know why it lags lelelelelelelelelel don't ban me for this joke pls

[rough cedar]

Afaik C# is only slower than C and C++

That too to very small extent ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[barren shale]

It’s not about the engine

It’s about the code

Haydot managed to get 1 FPS with OpenGL on C++

With an empty screen

[main brook]

jokes on you

C# sucks

Try brainfuck

[elder shore]

our channel

claimed

[main brook]

its already ours

[tropic dagger]

Try malbolge.

Brainfuck has a pattern in the chaos.

Malbolge is just slamming your head on the keyboard and hoping something works.

[main brook]

heh

[lucid rain]

@tropic dagger Try Shakespeare

[half warren]

⚠ Warned DDeveloper#7296

🔨 Banned DDeveloper#7296 indefinitely

[barren shale]

Rei

Rei

Rei

I hate you

[orchid frigate]

Look at rust

Where you have stuff like this

_ => (),

[barren shale]

@orchid frigate exposed

[orchid frigate]

Why havent i blocked you yet

Oh right i dont knoe how ro block

[barren shale]

[orchid frigate]

Will you teach me how to do that

[barren shale]

No

[tropic dagger]

Android (9): Other Profile -> Three Dots at Top -> Block

[opal cypress]

I made it for a free build thing to expand my knowledge on events not for like an actual game

yeah I made that before i started learning exploit preventention thanks for pointing it out

yeah for guns but i havent tried making one since their pretty complicated

wait it can trigger serversided?

so with aimbot they would just set the mouse location to the other player since thats what the function asks for

yeah

having the client send it would let it just constantly kill every player

how do games like phantom forces handle client-server

would it be possible to just pass the local player in and have the server do everything else?

ah so they can just edit that?

[tropic dagger]

Cheat engine.

Cheat engine does memory manipulation.

10 year olds.

With no life.

I don't know lua.

So I would have no idea.

[opal cypress]

lua is like python - its easy to learn but not that fast or memory/energy efficient

[tropic dagger]

Ah.

I do pretty much the opposite of that.

C++.

[opal cypress]

well in terms of quality

[tropic dagger]

Oh god.

[opal cypress]

yeah

[tropic dagger]

It's over.

[opal cypress]

ye

[tropic dagger]

You can't view names.

e

Time to learn how to hack Roblox.

[opal cypress]

interesting

[tropic dagger]

But is it the best method?

Lua so far seems to be a mixture of Pascal, JS and Python.

(begin... end, function, everything else)

I know.

There is no begin but there is end.

It takes from that begin... end syntax.

Why can't they just do C-style.

Why do they have to be quirky?

[opal cypress]

thats mainly what lua is

[cunning summit]

lua is supposed to be easy to learn and basic

when i touched c# i was shocked at how stupid it was

ok buddy that's where you're wrong

[opal cypress]

C++ is better

yeah

[cunning summit]

objectively, lua is the best looking programming language

it does look the best

show me a sample of cool looking c++ that isn't spaghetti code

i've never touched python

that's disgusting

<<?

wtf

and the ";" thing

🤮

[opal cypress]

lol

print()

[cunning summit]

print("wassup g")

you're the type of person to look at a black hole and decide it looks cool

also them's fighting words my guy

lua was made by G

not c

what does this all even mean

all of that to just output "hello world"

god made lua

looking cool and being useless are not the same thing

[opal cypress]

virgin c++ hello world vs chad lua "print("Hello World!")"

[cunning summit]

and you just showed me a bunch of useless stuff

c++ is good if you want to write 30 lines of something that could be done in one in lua

faiir enough but

c++ still bad

all of them look bad compared to chad lua

and c++ can't be run without a computer so wwhat's your point bro

it's a comparison of which looks coolest

wwhen did we switch

[opal cypress]

sous impasta

[cunning summit]

AMOGUS

[opal cypress]

this is what im coding rn for a game called Mappa Imperium (its a paper and pencil dice game but im adapting it for single player w/ computer):

generate = {}
generate.__index = generate

function generate.rng(amount)
    local num = math.random(1,amount)
    return num
end
function generate.islands()
    local islandTable = {
        "1 large continent",
        "1 large island 1 medium island",
        "1 large island 1 small island",
        "1 large island 2 small islands",
        "2 medium islands",
        "1 medium island 1 small island",
        "1 medium island 2 small island",
        "4 small islands"
    }    
    return islandTable[generate.rng(#islandTable)]
end
function generate.biomes()
    local biomeTable = {
        "Savanna",
        "Wetlands",
        "Hills",
        "Lake",
        "River",
        "Forest",
        "Forest",
        "Mountains",
        "Desert",
        "Jungle",
        "Canyon",
        "Volcano"            
    }
    return biomeTable[generate.rng(#biomeTable)]
end
function generate.resources()
    local resourceTable = {
        "lumber",
        "stone",
        "iron",
        "coal",
        "copper",
        "gold",
        "silver",
        "crystal",
        "mithril",
        "adamantite",    
    }
    return resourceTable[generate.rng(#resourceTable)]
end
function generate.race()
    local raceTable = {
        
    }
    return raceTable[generate.rng(#raceTable)]
end
return generate

yes im using roblox studio as a normal code engine instead of game lol

[cunning summit]

interesting

[tropic dagger]

@cunning summit no C++ is actually extremely good.

Great for games, apps, anything really.

[cunning summit]

no

[tropic dagger]

Wdym?

Give me one example of C++ not being good for a program.

Of any kind.

@cunning summit

C++ is fast.

Low-level.

Tons of support.

Tons of docs.