⌨coders-cave

[barren shale]

see

your school

understands

whats better for you

that's why schools in finland are good

cuz they know whats good

in college theyll teach us ew++ first

[wet girder]

I would've liked c++ lol

[rose lodge]

Hey

[wet girder]

Heya

I finally learned what % actually does lmao

I never bothered to learn

but now I learned

[barren shale]

wtf

its so useful

i used it here

saves a lot of time

[main brook]

modulus be like

its like / but for remainder

[barren shale]

its the remainder of the division

x + y % 2 == 0 makes a checkerboard pattern

Rei

is

Nub

Rei is

[orchid frigate]

oh god loading textures in opnegl inst fun at all

alot of reading will need to be made to understand the process

[main brook]

def modulus(num, num1):
    previous = 0
    while True:
        previous = num
        num -=  num1
        if num < 0:
            return previous
        elif num == 0:
            val = 0
            if isinstance(num, float):
                val = 0.0
            return val
            
a = 4
b = 10
print(modulus(a, b), a % b)

[orchid frigate]

yep textures are pain

173 compile time errors

[wet girder]

lol

that's a lot

I'm just in class learning about arithmetic operators

it's boring af

[main brook]

yeah

its very boring

1 + 1
1 - 1
1 * 1
1 / 1
1 // 1
1 % 1
1**1

[orchid frigate]

2 of these I don't know

The // and **

[clever otter]

function saysworld(sw){ if (sw = helloworld){ return "helloworld" } return "undefined, you failed, you did not copy and paste the whole code" } console.log(saysworld(helloworld))

1. should work tho
2. copy and paste whole thingy in whatever code editor
3. open console.log
4. delete it
5. done

[barren shale]

not as efficient as possible

first divide the numbers

and check if you get a natural number or not

cuz if you get a natural number you just return 0

[main brook]

sure

[main brook]

that wont work

[clever otter]

tell error

what error shows

[main brook]

https://tryitands.ee/

[barren shale]

sw = helloworld isnt a thing

[knotty root]

@everyone

[orchid frigate]

The function requeres the argument sw which Doesn't have a data type therefore it won't work and will probably give an error if it's not In some language that doesn't require datatypes in arguments. Second of all, the function is not a string. There are many other mistakes but I won't count em all, but basically use more datatypes

and thats how you asnwer questions hamza

[orchid frigate]

Yooo I got a crate

I also got 0fps on it

The window is actually broken

[barren shale]

its javascript

you dont need a data type

the problem is sw = helloworld

helloworld does not exist therefore it gives an error

[tropic dagger]

So make it exist.

[barren shale]

it wont give an error

but the code wont work

cuz it should be sw == helloworld

[tropic dagger]

Or put quotes.

And fix the operators.

[barren shale]

and ur mum

[tropic dagger]

Which one?

[barren shale]

both

[tropic dagger]

Both of who?

I have three.

[barren shale]

all of them

[tropic dagger]

You've lost the chance.

[barren shale]

ur mum

[orchid frigate]

What why

How

How*

I hate JavaScript now

[barren shale]

its like python

you just name the variable

no datatypes

it doesnt even have classes

just prototypes

[knotty root]

look i found another code

typ moder and the game will be ready in three sec

[orchid frigate]

Ф

[barren shale]

still better than ew++

[orchid frigate]

Ю

And

Я

[knotty root]

if (userinfo. cookies.agreed) { google

[main brook]

[knotty root]

sussy hin pfp

[orchid frigate]

If statements

And else statements

[main brook]

woah what the fuck

who would've known

uvloop on python can run far better than Golang

[barren shale]

when ur mum is so fat

that she runs slower than golang

[main brook]

hamza stop with the my mum is so fat

i already know my mom is fat

[barren shale]

okeh

anything for u

when ur mum is so fat id do anything for u

[main brook]

then step on me

[barren shale]

Wait what

[woven snow]

What

[knotty root]

if (hin. die) {

[tropic dagger]

if (!help) {

[orchid frigate]

if(!help){
       Ask_for_help("Help pls");
}

[knotty root]

moder

[bold rover]

Hey @lapis flint Sorry for the ping but does this considered Emoji Spamming?

[lapis flint]

@woven bay do not flood

[wooden depot]

PY:

if !help == !help:
  Ask_for_help()

[wooden depot]

elif

[main brook]

!help is an invalid variable name

[split parrot]

Error: Nothing found

[main brook]

[bold rover]

Pain

[orchid frigate]

Ok make it then

int help;
char infoLog[512];
Glgetshaderiv(vertex_shader, GL_COMPILE_STATUS, &help);
if(!help){
     glgetshaderinfolog(vertex_shader, 512, NULL, infoLog);
     cout << infoLog << endl;
}

[main brook]

actually

we can have

that variable name

by using the globals

globals()["!help"] = "hamza mom"

now it'll be a global variable

[orchid frigate]

Python?

But wait what if you had to do this

if(!help)

Would it be if(!!help)

[main brook]

no

you can't even use !help

also its not

if not help:
    ...

[orchid frigate]

Wordy

Too wordy smh at python

[main brook]

its english

v2

[orchid frigate]

Also doesnt !help check if the value of the int

Like if its not 0 then !help will be true

Or the other way around idr

[main brook]

yes

[orchid frigate]

Learning that when i was learning c++ was ao complicated to me because i was like "how can you check if an int is true wtf"

[main brook]

basically

if(val > 0) {

};

positive value

[orchid frigate]

Me irl when positive value

Because that means my shader compiles ok

[barren shale]

yo

mama

thin

[main brook]

okay that's a no no

you crossed the borderline

[barren shale]

oh my bad

i meant thicc

[main brook]

yes my mom is thicc

when i was a kid i used to sleep on her lap

[orchid frigate]

When i was a kid i invendted Stupidity

So yea im the one you can thank for this invention

[orchid frigate]

Invented

But you lnow what ima make you look funny with that reply

[barren shale]

Ima make your mum look fat

Tomorrow is the day

HEngine will be back in business

[main brook]

Hamza Edgy

[tropic dagger]

Yeah if it's non-zero or non-nullptr then it'll be true. It's very helpful for error handling.

[tropic dagger]

if (!help)
{
    if (!helper.getHelp())
        std::cout << "No help for you.";
    else
        std::cout << "They had us in the first half, not gonna lie";
}

[barren shale]

not at all

hamza best

maybe a bit edgy

but not as edgy as rei

[ivory ibex]

Can you add horses for transportation

[barren shale]

its not the place to ask

[orchid frigate]

@barren shale add horses for transportation

[ivory ibex]

Add horses for transportation

[barren shale]

sadly

i cant

im just a translator

[orchid frigate]

just reading about matrices and im realising that they are just multi-dimensional arrays

they do have some interesting multiplication tho, pretty hard to figure out

[barren shale]

matrices are 2d arrays

[orchid frigate]

oh god this map is so complicated

math

[barren shale]

if u want help with matrices i can help

[tropic dagger]

e

[orchid frigate]

it looks weird in code\

[tropic dagger]

It kinda does.

\

[orchid frigate]

\

[tropic dagger]

\

[orchid frigate]

im just reading the opengl documantation about them and i feel like im back in math class

[tropic dagger]

Oof

[barren shale]

not really that complicated

u just dum dum

[orchid frigate]

they arent but

they look really weird to work with in code

which is sadly what must be done

[barren shale]

nah they dont

[tropic dagger]

OpenGL big annoying to work with in general.

[barren shale]

||have to disagree||

[orchid frigate]

nah its just hard in the start

afterwords its awesome

[tropic dagger]

Yeah.

But beginning openGL versus beginning win32.

[barren shale]

haydot

[orchid frigate]

should my window be working in 0-10 fps tho?

[barren shale]

took you like 2 weeks to get a rectangle

and then u got an empty window on 1 fps

[orchid frigate]

months*

look i figuered out shaders

and ebos

and now i will figure out math

[barren shale]

after 1 year

[tropic dagger]

3 + 4 = 8

[orchid frigate]

afterwords its lightning...oh god..

advanced lightning...

[orchid frigate]

u stoopid its 3.15

[tropic dagger]

Nah I just put it through a calculator.

It's 2

[orchid frigate]

2.14

[tropic dagger]

2.14159265

[orchid frigate]

69.14

[tropic dagger]

02496

[orchid frigate]

glgetshaderlol

[orchid frigate]

.

[tropic dagger]

Oh hold up.

What happens if you put a null character in the beginning of a string?

[orchid frigate]

uhhhh lemme check

[tropic dagger]

It terminates it right there.

At least with char*.

[orchid frigate]

idk but my renderer class is the hardest shit to read

[tropic dagger]

Bet.

[orchid frigate]

i will make a paste bin if you wanna check it out

[tropic dagger]

I've done working GL code for an hour but I'm bored.

So I'm gonna challenge myself.

[orchid frigate]

https://pastebin.pl/view/1656783b

trying to read this hurts my eyes and brain

and i will be adding math to it

[tropic dagger]

Oof

Math nice but annoying.

[orchid frigate]

also i know the paths shouldnt be my paths for exportation but shhh

[tropic dagger]

It's fine.

[orchid frigate]

if it ever goes on another computer it will throw enough errors to crash the os

[tropic dagger]

I don't really judge other people's code unless they mess up python with anything but indentation.

And they're not new.

[tropic dagger]

damn

[orchid frigate]

reminds me of one meme

in which a guy runs his code and gets his an bsod

idk how but the madlad did it

[tropic dagger]

;

[orchid frigate]

https://tenor.com/view/rage-mad-angry-kid-tantrums-gif-17338734

this is the compiler when no ;

[tropic dagger]

Compiler when { but no }

LISP when no ()

[orchid frigate]

me when compile-time errors that have more zeros then words

[tropic dagger]

BCMP when exist

[tropic dagger]

Yeah

[orchid frigate]

but atleast i always know that its something wrong with my opengl code, because it only throws them when opengl complains

[tropic dagger]

Exactly.

[orchid frigate]

and it does that alot

[tropic dagger]

OpenGL throws errors for correct syntax.

[orchid frigate]

opengl when no glfwInit()

[tropic dagger]

Useless.

Just view.

Win32 has way too many macros.

[orchid frigate]

i hate macros

i was learning macros when i was using rust

[tropic dagger]

So does GLAD.

[orchid frigate]

i hate them with a passion

'rust is great but

really complicated and the fact that most vars are local makes it hard to use

i feel like if i got a penny for every time i thought "why does textured rectangle window keep crashing" i would have a dollar. Doesnt sound like must but the fact it happened 100 times is weird

[main brook]

[barren shale]

HEngine is back in business boys

10x times better than whatever haydot is doing

[orchid frigate]

i feel like my brain is melting from all the math i just read

[main brook]

im gonna migrate my shits to react

better frontend here i go

[wet girder]

I know some react

I just don't like it

[main brook]

i use it

only for the

state hook

better than handling the input output yourself

but i still use jinja for server rendering

more performance

and seo friendly

[wet girder]

I had to do this piece of code and 9 pretty similar to this today in school (variable names and prints are in finnish because school made me do them in finnish)

using System;  
 
class HelloWorld {  
  static void Main() {  
        Console.Write("Kuinka monta bittiä koneessasi on? "); 
        int bitMaara = Convert.ToInt32(Console.ReadLine()); 
         
        int vastaus = 2; 
        for (int i = 1; i < bitMaara; i++) { 
            vastaus = vastaus * 2; 
            Console.WriteLine(vastaus); 
        } 
         
        Console.WriteLine(vastaus); 
    }  
} ```

I gotta say that it was not the most fun I've had with coding

I have 3 word documents of code. I don't like storing code in word documents

it's shit

[orchid frigate]

Word beat ide wdym

You can color your code however you like

You can use different fonts

Its amazin

I use it every day

[wet girder]

lol

we used some random online compiler because we had to use some random math class pcs

[orchid frigate]

in my old school we had vs code on the pcs so i was pretty happy in it class

[wet girder]

we don't have vs code

we only have visual studio

but I like to use it more for C type languages anyway

[orchid frigate]

visual studio better for C

[wet girder]

ye and we use C#

[orchid frigate]

nice, are you gonna start learning cpp at some point?

[wet girder]

I'd like to know that too ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[orchid frigate]

if yes i will be pretty jealous

[knotty root]

Coders cave gives off Pablo's pub vibes

[barren shale]

Only jdk left to install

then HEngine shall commence

[wet girder]

but what even is C# good at

I've been thinking about this the whole day and I just don't know

idk why I haven't googled

Windows app development, web development and game development

intresting

The last one is what I expected and think C# is good for but why not use JS for web development and C++ for app development

you can even make apps work on Unix based operating system

[barren shale]

microsoft made C# very good and easy to use when it comes to web and apps

.NET core works on linux

[wet girder]

oh nice, I've just never heard anyone who makes apps for Linux use it

but I don't know lots of peiple who make apps for linux

[barren shale]

it only has support for console applications

but im pretty sure there are some third party packages who will allow you to make an app with a gui

https://i.imgur.com/LiPpd0r.png

😳 @orchid frigate

[orchid frigate]

😳

[orchid frigate]

jesus christ what have i done

this was not supposed to happen i just want to clarify

by creating this i have probably commited several warcrimes

there is no memory leak what you talking about

it got to 4gb at some point

[knotty root]

ugly

[barren shale]

yes use a low level language then use it like a high level language

[main brook]

@barren shale

but putin agrees

that C#

is as good as any language

[orchid frigate]

Look im aure that

The memory leak isnt that bad

So no need to panic hamza

[barren shale]

It wouldnt be bad if it wasnt just an empty screen

[barren shale]

[barren shale]

Putin isnt enough

Sometimes you need Obama

[wary orchid]

mium

[orchid frigate]

opengl

[main brook]

[wet girder]

@main brook do not make gay jokes

[bold rover]

Hm?

[main brook]

i wasn't but okie

[bold rover]

That's strange I didn't Noticed anything

[knotty root]

how hard would it be to code self learning ai via reinforcement learning to citizens in worldbox

[main brook]

Jupe: the problem of being faster than light is you can only live in darkness

[main brook]

if you're making your own machine learning

it'll take a year

unless you're a prodigy

[knotty root]

not own machine learning

[main brook]

great

[knotty root]

from someone elses open sorucef work

[main brook]

ah

you mean

forking?

[bold rover]

If You're an Expert on ML or DL probably not that much

[knotty root]

yea find some framework

[bold rover]

Ah

[main brook]

best machine learning:

name = input("please insert your name ")
print("hello, "+name+"!")

[knotty root]

deep learning

[main brook]

[bold rover]

Probably ask someone that has codex access to help you/Seriously

No one haven't tried the capabilities of Codex on coding Machine Learning Agents

[knotty root]

i want to deeplearn the citizen ai on some simple points

[bold rover]

Ow

[knotty root]

and the ai have the base background

[bold rover]

Like what?

[knotty root]

punishments and reward systems based on damage and other stuff

[bold rover]

Ow that stuff,It would probably be possible to be honest

[knotty root]

endless possibilities alot of tweaking though

[bold rover]

I always Love thinking About AI agents in Worldbox because The system is there and it's possible

[knotty root]

damage hunger and kingdom being taken over = punishments

killing enemy having kids (up to 3) being full being rich alot of other stuff conquering = reward

imagine the new military strategies the ai comes up with

[bold rover]

Aha... probably work on more Simpler Reward and punishment system
Reward=
• If the Agent keep it self alive
• Don't stand in single place
Etc.
Punishment=
• If Agent Doesn't keep it self alive
• if it doesn't move and stay in a single place
etc.

Build the model upon that and continue adding things

Also While The Sonic speed button is a thing in Worldbox you can probably do this farely quickly

[knotty root]

this should be implemented the real game lmao

if the agent doesnt do task it gets punished

[bold rover]

Yeah something like that

Like keeping it self alive

[knotty root]

yes

aka hunger

[bold rover]

Yup

[knotty root]

if people are gluttony they require to eat more

giving actual character traits meaning other than charisma

and diplomats rewards are being kings

while military leader rewards are conquering

[bold rover]

Probably should work on a more simpler agent than other future plans

Just make it self alive

Build a House

Populate

And repeat

[knotty root]

populate needs to belimited

[bold rover]

Yup, Resources are limited

[knotty root]

hmm

this is getting more and more advanced each second

if they are unhappy they want more resources

so they mine more

[bold rover]

Yup, It's Machine Learning

Also Been thinking about this a long time and you need to change a whole lot of things in the game

[knotty root]

i see by ur pfp

u know a thing or two

[bold rover]

If you want a Realistic simulation you probably want to remove things like Immortal and etc.

[knotty root]

if someone is immortal

how long will it take for them to max out everything

for knowledge wise

60k maybe

if they arent killed

[bold rover]

Not Really,Been Watching people From a far and learning 1 and 2 things, Love what I can give people and point them to resources I know It can be useful

Nonetheless

Goodluck with the worldbox agent

[knotty root]

thanks

[bold rover]

Like this guy

https://youtube.com/c/PrimerLearning

The person looks more in the in-depth behavior of models but you can probably get inspiration

Honestly If you did created a fully fledge Worldbox Agent you definitely need to write a paper on this, Because this is some Deepmind and OpenAI type agents

[main brook]

||```py
print("never gonna give you up")
print("never gonna let you down")
print("never gonna run around and desert you")
print("never gonna make you cry")
print("never gonna say goodbye")

best code in 2021 ![kannapog](https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/782571802902659083.webp?size=128 "kannapog")

[barren shale]

unefficient

[main brook]

i know

but hey

its buffered

so not flushed everytime i print

[barren shale]

still

never gonna is there 5 times

could be made as a variable

saves 20 bytes of memory

or wait

[barren shale]

more

[bold rover]

Aw cute

[barren shale]

saves 5*11 bytes of memory

55 bytes

[main brook]

you fool

5*11 is 511

[barren shale]

[main brook]

wait no

5*11 is

55555555555

[knotty root]

a language system (trading diplomacy communication system) would be so advanced

in a system where one side wants something one doesnt

aka deep learning

[bold rover]

Yup

[knotty root]

trading would need to be revamped

instead of randomized like it is now

[main brook]

so

trading on crack?

[bold rover]

You would need to code a whole new system

[knotty root]

i see

but

i can also think of ways

to navigate throufh

somehow

[bold rover]

You can't copy paste someone code in the internet

[knotty root]

yea

ur right

but i can take inspiration

[bold rover]

I mean there's no code available publicly

[knotty root]

ya

[bold rover]

Most system like that are like in civilization games

[orchid frigate]

its 69420 lol

[bold rover]

Would be pretty neat

[knotty root]

im just trying to figure out the basis of the system

and loops and things i might encounter

[bold rover]

But probably work on More simpler Agent's

Then building things up there

[orchid frigate]

i wish i could actually work on a game but i need to figure out most of opengl first

😔

i mean i could probable start now but...

no lightning, basic shaders

broken cam

and huge memory leaks

[bold rover]

UE5?

[orchid frigate]

my own engine

working on a game engine

[bold rover]

Ow

[knotty root]

ur own engine?

[orchid frigate]

ye

[bold rover]

Goodluck

[knotty root]

interesting

[orchid frigate]

i mean actually creating a game wont be much more difficult then creating a game on a public engine

but creating a rendering system is a HUGE pain

@barren shale is also working on one

called hengine

but he copy pastes code smh my head

[barren shale]

what

no

i only copy pasta the init stuff

its like reading documentations then writing it

[orchid frigate]

thats like 90% of it

[barren shale]

i just read then copied it

same thing

[orchid frigate]

still

[barren shale]

but atleast i got something to work

[orchid frigate]

copy pasta bad

[orchid frigate]

look the fact that my game runs for 5 seconds and crashes doesnt mean its bad

[barren shale]

id rather have something work

[orchid frigate]

it just needs a bit more...work

[barren shale]

the fact that it took you 2 months to make it is tho

[orchid frigate]

i was busy

plus i actually read the documantation

[knotty root]

hey atleast it runs

i would be very excited at that

[orchid frigate]

yea but having a memory leak is awful because most of the time you have no idea why it exists

i just wont deal with it until i need to actually create the game

https://pastebin.pl/view/94f84f6f

the fact that this whole thing is just to create weirdly angled triangle is pretty...amazing yet awful

[knotty root]

well its like ur creating a wheel in the 21st century

i mean its not special

but man its a wheel i madd

[orchid frigate]

Wheel 3.0

I could also use unity but....the physics engine is pretty overcomplicated and you can hardly customise it

[barren shale]

making your own engine isnt recreating the wheel

its actually very good

you have full control of the engine

makes ur games run faster

cuz u wont put stuff that you are not gonna use

[barren shale]

its not u just dum dum

[knotty root]

Hamza is boring man

[barren shale]

Hamza is bestest man

[tropic dagger]

Hamza has mom

[barren shale]

a dad too

[nova coral]

Hey dudes! Can you say please where you learn a python?

[wet girder]

YouTube is the best place to learn python in my opinion. Lemme show you few good tutorials to learn python

My favorite YouTuber, makes amazing software videos and probably the best at explaining programming IT in YouTube just started new series for python but it only has one episode so it's gonna take a while learning through his videos:
https://youtu.be/mRMmlo_Uqcs

Then tutorial how to learn python from also one of my favorite YouTube channels, definetly good video to check out:
https://youtu.be/5mJ_Qftw2_0

the video on how to learn python tells better than I could ever but these are my recommendations

[nova coral]

Thanks Jupe

[wet girder]

Well we've always been small group inside big place

I'm honestly not sure how this channel still exists, I suppose it's pretty active and add diversity but is still related to WorldBox in a way

[orchid frigate]

idk how it still exists either but im happy it does

[quartz raptor]

Im going to make a game tomorrow

About POTATOES

[orchid frigate]

nice

first time?

[quartz raptor]

Na

I made games multiple timrs

None of them worked

[tropic dagger]

Dang.

[barren shale]

techlead is kinda sus ngl

[orchid frigate]

is that a mf among us refrence 😳

[tropic dagger]

Techlead has become bad but wasn't always bad.

He was at one point a good person.

Then he decided to turn an m into a b.

[knotty root]

Hey change Gregor gameplay status to playing fairs simulator

[main brook]

https://automatetheboringstuff.com/ (for complete beginners to programming)
https://learnxinyminutes.com/docs/python3/ (for people who know programming already)
https://docs.python.org/3/tutorial/ (official tutorial)
http://python.swaroopch.com/ (useful book)
see also: http://www.codeabbey.com/ (exercises for beginners)

youtube is good too

but its not good when they teach you tutorials

and not a language

like instead of teaching you how to make functions and how to do something

they just write crap for you to follow

[wary orchid]

nice

[main brook]

Top: Aiohttp
Bottom: HTTPX

i requested to 3 websites

10 times

facebook, google, youtube

aiohttp runs faster

[barren shale]

you dont need any youtube tutorials or shit like that

just do something

and google

that's how i learned

[orchid frigate]

alright finally got a working cam

feeling good

[main brook]

now your computer can see how cute you are

[main brook]

you don't even need a degree

[orchid frigate]

no no no not that type of camera

game cam

like i can move around in my game window that needs 4gb of ram every 5 seconds

[wet girder]

and I'm still getting a degree because fuck being hard to get a job because you don't have a degree

and also fuck high school

[orchid frigate]

i will probably at one point need to get a job but idk what i will work considering my programming knowladge

noone needs opengl devs

and all cpp jobs require 1000 years of practise

and frontend is boring af

[wet girder]

ye, frontend is fuckin boring

cyber security is the real fun

[orchid frigate]

oh the memory leak somehow got better

from 4gb to 2

[wet girder]

lol nice

[orchid frigate]

we getting there

lmao i just saw the visual studio memory usage graph and its fucking hilarious

lemme get a screenshot

[hoary hound]

How are you leaking over 2gb

Like

What

[orchid frigate]

gas gas gas im gonna step on the gas

[hoary hound]

[orchid frigate]

i mean its fine

the window responds for...a few seconds

[hoary hound]

https://tenor.com/view/this-is-fine-its-fine-everything-is-fine-burning-house-happy-dog-gif-21646319

[orchid frigate]

it got to 4gb in 6 seconds once

its weird because its always different

i think the main problem is is i kinda have everything inside of the render loop

but the fps seems fine at first def over 500 atleast

anyone with a 32bit os wanna try to run this

[hoary hound]

I'd like my computer to not explode thanks

[barren shale]

Just run it in 32 bit

You dont need a 32 bit os

[barren shale]

Took you long enough

[barren shale]

Looks like someone needs garbage collection

Too bad cpp doesnt have it

[orchid frigate]

lol xd im laughing hamza

[main brook]

hamza is so funny

his jokes are funny

i ded now

[orchid frigate]

https://tenor.com/view/neutral-face-unfunny-american-airlines2601-2601-gif-20770561

can you not tell

[main brook]

can you also not tell

[orchid frigate]

this me irl

[main brook]

his jokes is so awesome

i died

of laughter

i ded now

his jokes is so world class

that he even got charged

[orchid frigate]

dont die after dying you might not live anymore

[main brook]

for international mass homicide

[main brook]

you know

i died

and then woke up from my grave

[orchid frigate]

im a certified doctor with 420 degrees and i can assure you that after dying you do not live

[main brook]

just to die again

hearing hamza jokes

[main brook]

i have 69 years of experience

[orchid frigate]

i have 100 years of experience in c++

[main brook]

could you make me scream louder than how programming made me scream

[orchid frigate]

imagine having garbage collection

https://tenor.com/view/cat-jumpscare-cat-jumpscare-kot-cat-tunnel-gif-20472571

this is my response to the last question

[barren shale]

im very funi

[barren shale]

the mostest ebicest embedded fail

[barren shale]

its good when you dont know how to manage your memory

[orchid frigate]

hamza be like: no chad
haydot be like: yes chad

[barren shale]

-haydot

[orchid frigate]

-hamza

[barren shale]

[orchid frigate]

if you

admit

that cpp is better

i will give you

all my code from the engine

👀

[barren shale]

whyd i want to get code

that has memory leaks

and is in general bad

or is it bad in general

idk

its bad

ok ill admit

[orchid frigate]

its not in #🌎general so it isnt bad IN general

👀

[barren shale]

c++ is better than C# at being a shit language

[orchid frigate]

you just made

a big mistake

do you know who i am

[barren shale]

noooooo

[orchid frigate]

im the creater

[barren shale]

creator*

[orchid frigate]

of the best engine

[barren shale]

worst*

[orchid frigate]

called cozy

[barren shale]

cozy memory leaks*

[orchid frigate]

Do YoU KnoW WhO I Am!?

[barren shale]

haydot ?

[orchid frigate]

yes

that is true

i speedran creating a memory leak

and failed

it took me 2 months

but still

i bet you cant even create a memory ;eak

[main brook]

yes i can

[orchid frigate]

im the best memory leaker ever

i will one day have a program

that uses 8gb of ram

[barren shale]

cant create a memory leak in C# :(

its just too good

you can disable the garbage collection

so you actually can

it just doesnt let nubs like haydot do it

[orchid frigate]

c# is so cringe

[barren shale]

[orchid frigate]

it cant even create memory leaks

[barren shale]

it can

you just have to be good

cuz its good

[orchid frigate]

smh at c#

garbage collectors are cringe

i can collect garbage myself

i just need a garbage can

get it because of i CAN and garbage CAN

yea you get it

[barren shale]

ahah

ur even more funi than me

rei is so dead she cant even type

[main brook]

yes

your jokes are so funny

i died of laughter

i ded now

[barren shale]

bye ded

bye dad

😳

[main brook]

[wet girder]

just keep it sfw 😬

[barren shale]

ok dad

[main brook]

ieam

iam

i just call it daddy

"father" sounds

kinda not me

[fringe heath]

Balls

[main brook]

Tennis balls

[barren shale]

ur mums balls

[fringe heath]

😳

[barren shale]

we are very sfw

its just that jupe has a very dirty mind

bad jupe

[barren shale]

my matrix class grows bigger everyday

id give it one week till 1k lines

did i say 1k

i meant 10k

[orchid frigate]

this has more spaces then the cosmos

[barren shale]

ofc

unrelated stuff should be spaced

unless you want your code to look like haydot code

[main brook]

which is awesome?

so

no spacing if you want awesome code

[barren shale]

its ugly

literally

everyone spaces code

you do it too

haydot does it

sometimes

i guess no one is awesome

[main brook]

i space my code

format is one of my biggest weakness

because if i see bad formatting

i die

[wet girder]

same lmao

[barren shale]

bruh

for me its not even about bad formatting

if i see someone formatting anything differently from me i die

if(condition) doSomething();

this kills me

if(condition) 
  doSomething();

this is good

[main brook]

that's literally

racism

[barren shale]

no

that's preference

but i dont like people's opinions

oh wait

that's racism

[main brook]

that's basically twitter user

[orchid frigate]

Look

As a master programmer myself

I will give my opinion on what good code looks like

I think that code should be spaced out to a certain point, like certain parts of it, kinda like paragraphs

But comments are very good

[tropic dagger]

And make sure to separate declaration from definition.

[wet girder]

In my education if your code has even a small thing that could be more readable your teacher tells me how to make it more readable which is kinda good ngl

[tropic dagger]

Imagine if he taught Assembly.

[north dune]

less spaces is better
entire scripts in 1 line is fun

[tropic dagger]

I would do that but I use C++ and any includes have to be on another line.

So that would mean no I/O, no standard library stuff.

Maybe JS.

[north dune]

i personally hate the format where you open parenthesis or bracket
and then do stuff
and then close it

the only time that feels natural is declaring new function or method, but like regular use? ew, make it one line

[tropic dagger]

Python and Assembly are syntactically impossible to do on one line.

[tropic dagger]

Like this?

if (expr)
{
     stuff();
}

[north dune]

ew

[tropic dagger]

Oh yeah.

[north dune]

                button.onClick.AddListener(delegate { Debug.Log("Button pressed"); } );

good

[tropic dagger]

Just use

button.onClick.AddListener(delegate {
    Debug.Log("Button pressed");
});

at the worst.

[north dune]

delegate makes this especially ugly

with the extra everything it brings

[tropic dagger]

I don't know the delegate keyword.

Or much C# in general.

[north dune]

using it to either call a function elsewhere or some temporary function where youve written some code

[tropic dagger]

Ah.

So essentially lambda?

[north dune]

yeah kinda

ive barely played with them but it seems really cool

[tropic dagger]

Yeah.

[north dune]

these buttons have places for onHover, its how the game already does its tooltips

[tropic dagger]

Ah.

[tropic dagger]

Oh nice.

[north dune]

makes it very simple

[tropic dagger]

Is showTooltip a function or a variable?

[north dune]

a function

[tropic dagger]

Ah.

Ok.

Interesting.

[wet girder]

I really hate why you don't need to use () after some functions in C# like in this image. It's really confusing to me

[north dune]

just fancy "show message" stuff

[tropic dagger]

Function pointers don't I would assume.

[north dune]

those are almost always during delegates or weird calls

like 90% of the time you use (params) like normal

[wet girder]

ye thankfully

[north dune]

reflection has you calling them even weirder

[wet girder]

I haven't seen that yet, I just started learning C# in school

[tropic dagger]

Damn C# is weird.

[north dune]

usually this would be traitButton.load(traitName)

but its inaccessible

reflection can bypass the access stuff

[wet girder]

oh gosh, that doesn't look fun to deal with

[north dune]

its not!

i stayed away from this sort of stuff for a very long time, its tedious and confusing

but its almost essential for bepinex and making compatible mods

right now im trying to figure out some of the actual game ui stuff, nikon has a lot done already and im learning from him

my mods are "simple" guis, using a whole seperate system that is wayyyy easier

[wet girder]

lol

good luck with that

[north dune]

thanks lmao

im slowly slowly figuring it out

[wet girder]

Atleast you're working to learn it. I've been having a problem of not coding because I just don't find the motivation to do it and then I don't really learn anything

[north dune]

just gotta find something that gives you that passion

im noticing how much interest powerbox got just from these custom windows and wanting my own 👀

[wet girder]

I haven't really played WorldBox with mods that much but Powerbox gui is really making the mod feel better even if it doesn't actually really help that much

[north dune]

i think the compatibility with other mods is what sells it

can use its features to improve a lot of other things

new mod coming lets you control people again

powerbox adds maxim and mastef.. can play as them lol

[wet girder]

lol

[north dune]

thats just one lil thing, plenty of random stuff like that for people to figure out

[main brook]

~ $ lua5.4 code.lua
hello!
~ $ ./code.lua
hello!
~ $ cat code.lua
#!/usr/bin/env python3

print("hello!")
~ $

[wet girder]

https://tenor.com/view/noice-nice-click-gif-8843762

[barren shale]

just like rei's mum

[main brook]

what's wrong with my mum

[barren shale]

she is noice

[wet girder]

https://tenor.com/view/bitch-what-wtf-gavin-confused-gif-5834632

[keen shell]

The Coolest Daniel: #🔧modders-bay

[barren shale]

Keh

[barren shale]

[keen shell]

Why it still shows like that

[lapis flint]

no

You have outdated info

It was renamed

I am exploring my first c# projects

and

One of them asking admin rights

it is custom screenlocker(not a virus, just thing that keeps your pc under password)

And

i remember that this thing

Disabling task manager

Mb better do not run it

This is cringe rn

But 5 years ago

i thought that it looks cool

[keen shell]

It's cool

[lapis flint]

[bold rover]

Cringe? It looks like so good and star wars like

[pliant wraith]

At first I thought it was something related to Star Wars

[wet girder]

Hmm, I found out what software the busses in my area use
http://www.thoreb.com/index.php/en/our-solutions/28-elsy

kinda intresting

[main brook]

imagine being a programmer, having a child and teaching them C

and when they're lost

someone taught them C

the one who teaches instantly died

because your child is more superior

this reminds me

i should use docker for my projects

[barren shale]

What

Are you

Talking about

Stop the dum plz

[wet girder]

actually a good idea

[barren shale]

rewriting numpy in C# is pain

860 lines

more coming

[wet girder]

why are you doing it then

I did all my programming assignments in school for like another week so the teacher told me to do some hard challenge online and I picked binary clock challenge. It's quite hard but I almost finished in about 30 minutes

school just ended too early

[barren shale]

im making neural networks from scratch

but the tutorial is python

im not gonna use python

[main brook]

sadly my phone can't use docker

but there's qemu

[orchid heart]

how will i make an system that will every mobile players can get mods in worldbox mobile ?

🤔

[tropic dagger]

Be a dev?

Make a marketplace style setup.

Require connection to the internet.

It'd have to be an official source or we would have to download APK's from a website.

Which likely wouldn't have much luck with in-app purchases, so no premium.

Plus you would only be able to get one mod.

So modding would need to be official.

@orchid heart

[keen shell]

numc#

[keen shell]

Not if it's made the right way👀
It doesn't have to directly edit the code, could also add onto the code in a seperate file like BepInEx does for PC

[tropic dagger]

num#

[tropic dagger]

That's hard as fuck on mobile.

It would be easier if it were official.

For everyone.

[barren shale]

there's a package called numpy.NET

i just wanna have some understanding of the code

so im writing it myself

im not rewriting everything ofc

[keen shell]

Nice

[barren shale]

just the things i need for my machine learning things

[keen shell]

Machine learning is cool, what are you planning to do / doing with it?

[barren shale]

reinforcement learning

things

[quiet river]

[barren shale]

python bad

[meager python]

Once i tryed to code a game and...

... and i gived up cuz its too hard

[orchid frigate]

Nah its ez

Whats hard is to code a video game without a game engine/create your own game engine

[main brook]

literally me

[barren shale]

lmao

you couldnt do it with unity

[barren shale]

AHHHHHHHHHHHHH

finally found the bug

that little 🐛

[barren shale]

Matrix math is hard

Not as hard as haydot think it is

Its just a bit confusing sometimes

[orchid frigate]

Bru unity sucsks i hat unity

My game engin better

Wont ve able to work on it tho because different project now

[quiet river]

matrix math is like riding a bike, work hard on it for a couple weeks then its breezy

[quiet river]

i made my own game engine but seeing all the features of unity make me doubt this statement