⌨coders-cave

[barren shale]

But not too easy top

[orchid frigate]

Ok

What do you think the challenge should be

[barren shale]

This looks like something im not allowed to say

You know what i mean

[barren shale]

Idk

Hmmm

[orchid frigate]

The point is

[barren shale]

Something thats not hard or easy

[orchid frigate]

A Langton ant is a good idea, I just need to learn how to make one

[barren shale]

Idk bruh

[orchid frigate]

I kinda have an idea of how it works

[barren shale]

8 hours of studying made my brain stop working properly

[barren shale]

Its just a set of rules

Apply them each frame

And you get things like this

[orchid frigate]

Yes but

What if I instead

[barren shale]

https://youtu.be/kzwT3wQWAHE

Watch this

Very kewl

[orchid frigate]

Just tell the ant "ok here is a number move this much in this direction then roll a random number and move this much in that direction"

[barren shale]

Its not a good idea for a jam tho

Not very diverse

Just one idea one set of rules

[orchid frigate]

But like it will take 1000 years to give it rules for every line

[barren shale]

What do you mean

Its just 3 rules

Or its 2

If white rotate clockwise then flip

If black rotate counter clockwise then flip

Done

[orchid frigate]

How does that work

Eh I will research it later

[barren shale]

Bruh

You stoopid

Jk

It might be hard to grasp from your perspective

Idk

[keen shell]

Anything WorldBox related good idea? Like a completely free challenge but with WorldBox as topic

[barren shale]

But

Not everyone gor the game on pc

So things like mods are off the topix

[keen shell]

No I don't mean mod

[barren shale]

And idk what do you mean worldbox related if its not mod

Enlighten me

[keen shell]

Okay, for example that machine learning map sorter I never finished

[barren shale]

Wa

What does machine learning have to do with sorting

[keen shell]

it looks at the image and sees what type of map it is

[barren shale]

Oh

Classification

[keen shell]

yes

[barren shale]

And what are the possible map types

[orchid frigate]

I'm not a very productive person, I like to tell my bot what to do in litteorly every situation possible or to just give it random stuff and tell it to do whatever it wants

[barren shale]

Cant do that wheb theres infinite situations

[keen shell]

But hahaha I don't really know much else, I think it's possible to get more ideas tho

[keen shell]

I trained it with 3 types:
Maps from #🌐✔cool-maps / Maps from #🌐map-downloads / Maps that auto-generated by the game

it distinguished pretty well

[barren shale]

So its finished

[keen shell]

mh, the model got trained but I never built an application around it that takes images and outputs a result

The model didn't need code at all, I used Visual Studio's built in model builder

cheats

[barren shale]

Not reqlly cheats

[keen shell]

hahaha

[barren shale]

Model building isnt really about the code

The code isnt really complex

Ive built a deep q learning model

Taught it how to play snake

Got really good

But it took like 2 days to train on cpu

To get into a good length

[keen shell]

nice

[barren shale]

I need to fix my gpu so i can train faster

2 days of cpu might be an hour on gpu

[unique basin]

what do you use to mod the map size?

[keen shell]

do you mean that you want the mod or how you code it?

[unique basin]

I am asking if there is any easy way to edit the map sizes on world box

if you know?

[keen shell]

Yes, there's already a mod for it called MapSizes

[unique basin]

oh

is there a way to manually do it?

[keen shell]

come to #🔧modding-talk

[barren shale]

@orchid frigate here is code

if you wanna look how i made it

looks like what maxim sent

but flipped

https://pastebin.com/ExmXb1Sv

[orchid frigate]

I understand most of it, but there are some things I will need to read about more

But thanks for showing it

[tropic dagger]

Ooh, C#.

[orchid frigate]

C# is cool

[barren shale]

Btw i used 1d array because i think its faster

And i used bytes and ushorts intead of ints

Idk if they are faster

All i know is they are smaller

But if you want to do it just use normal ints

And a 2d array

[orchid frigate]

I was wondering what ushorts were

[barren shale]

u means its unsigned so its only positive

And short is same as an integer but it takes less space and the range is smaller

I think its 8bytes

[fierce epoch]

you're so nub

[barren shale]

Instead of 32 for int

[barren shale]

Bruh

Im pro

U nub

[tropic dagger]

Where did that comment even come from?
That came from so far out of left field.

[signal wyvern]

A person walking in C#

👌

[orchid frigate]

That's one speedy boi

[barren shale]

Lmao why it says main.c theb

You cant lie to us

Its obviously C

[signal wyvern]

Yes, that's why it's in C

Xdd

[barren shale]

C no sharp

[orchid frigate]

C numb

[signal wyvern]

Xd

[vagrant latch]

hi

[tropic dagger]

So what libraries did you use if this is in C?

[barren shale]

Or can you

vsauce theme intensifies

Rewrite worldbox in rust

[orchid frigate]

I wonder in what language rust the game is made in

[orchid frigate]

Well that answers why the physics look kinda strange

[wet girder]

If anyone is intrested on trying to fix amp trait editor I'd be happy to give the current code for it

[barren shale]

I thought u meant rust the programming language not the game

Rust shouldve been made with rust

[barren shale]

What is that

[wet girder]

do ~traiteditor

[barren shale]

~traiteditor

[bitter sedge]

Sending trait guide to DMs!

[barren shale]

And what is the problem

Is it like completely broken

Or what

~definetraits "lucky"

[bitter sedge]

Traits defined!

[barren shale]

~btrait umom

[bitter sedge]

You must attach a map.wbox to your message!

[barren shale]

Mhmm

Soo

Whats the problem @wet girder

[sick belfry]

Uh.. its working somehow

[tropic dagger]

C#.

[wet girder]

map corrupts when you use it

[barren shale]

Oh

When did that happen

Did you change anything

Or after the game update

@wet girder

[wet girder]

after update

I've been trying to fix it for ages

[barren shale]

So map data isnt encrypted or what

Maybe the devs change the map data structure

[wet girder]

they didn't

I checked everything

it makes no sense why it corrupts

[barren shale]

Hmm

Can i take a look at how the map data looks unencrypted

Do u have a file you can send to me

[wet girder]

lemme decrypt one for you

[barren shale]

What language is the traiteditor written in

[orchid frigate]

Fax

[barren shale]

Indeed

[wet girder]

python

[barren shale]

Ok good i can read that

[wet girder]

here, I recommend beautifying it

[barren shale]

Shit im on phone

Idk about that

Ill look at the code when i have my pc

In like 2 hours

[wet girder]

sure

there's no rush

[barren shale]

Bruh mastef

U gotta work on map compression my dude

Wait

Did u just make a new map

With no people

@wet girder

[wet girder]

I just took one that said it is populated from #🌐map-downloads lol

[barren shale]

Finally found people data

Its probably a gigantic map

Took like two mins of scrolling

I have a pretty good idea on how to debug that

Ill do it when i get my pc

Cya in two hours

[wet girder]

all maps take 2 mins to scroll

you don't even know how it currently works tho lol

[barren shale]

You just change the traits and then rebuild the map

[wet girder]

not as easy as it sounds

https://gist.github.com/JupeOwl/cffc596c3964d18de08ff83062a6235e
This is the current code on amp but I created simpler and faster algorithm but it made the map even more fucked up

[orchid frigate]

I should open one map at some point to see how they work, I never thought to do that

[barren shale]

Ofc its not

But u already have everything ready

Ill just debug a bit

See what i can do

[barren shale]

Why are you not using a JsonParser

[wet girder]

I didn't make the code

Igniz made that

[barren shale]

Wtf

[wet girder]

I just did few hotfixes

[barren shale]

The map data is json

Use a god damn json parser

[wet girder]

I did use for my own version

[barren shale]

Makes life 100000 times easier

[wet girder]

but it worked even worse than the code I showed

[barren shale]

Can i see yours ?

[wet girder]

I'mma try to find it

[barren shale]

And tell igniz that he sucks at making readable code

[wet girder]

well he made the code without thinking it'd be used this much

[barren shale]

And where is he now

Dead ?

[wet girder]

[wet girder]

my code is now also in this gist

[barren shale]

Are tou sure when youre saving the map youre overwriting the old one

[wet girder]

wdym

[barren shale]

Line 26

On yours

Ur saving the map that you downloaded from discord

Are you sure if there was already a map there

Its being overwritten

[wet girder]

that's the first time that any file is touched in that command

[barren shale]

Youre not understanding

So i used traiteditor

Now theres a map.wbox in bots machine

Then another dude used traiteditor

Is the old map.wbox deleted

Or is it overwritten

Or do you even know

[wet girder]

It should overwrite the old map.wbox but I forgot to delete the file after the command is done

I meant to do that originally

[barren shale]

Ok

So now we have igniz code running

Right ?

[wet girder]

ye

[barren shale]

So

Edit his code

Make it so it deletes the file

At the end

And try

[wet girder]

let me setup test bot

[barren shale]

Kk

[signal wyvern]

Just use the while loop and characters, it is a task xd

[wet girder]

opencv is fucking me over again

[tropic dagger]

Like how did you do it?

Unless it's the command prompt.

[barren shale]

And what does that do

[wet girder]

map conversion uses it

[barren shale]

Decoding??

Or decrypting

Whatever its called

[wet girder]

#🔁map-conversion

[signal wyvern]

In three functions draw with the help of gotoxy and printf the walk

then in the whil loop I implemented that function it was something like this:

while (! kbhit ())
{
walk_1 ();
sleep (320);
clrsrcr ();
walk_2 ();
sleep (320);
clrsrcr ();
walk_1 ();
sleep (320);
clrsrcr ();
}

[barren shale]

So

[barren shale]

How is it going

[wet girder]

shit

not well

I mean

[barren shale]

Still not working

How tf was it working before

[wet girder]

Had to stop working on it

it's too late and I have school tomorrow

[barren shale]

Kk

Ill check it when i get my pc

In like 30 mins

[barren shale]

@wet girder fixed

[wet girder]

how exactly did you fix iy

[barren shale]

first things first

on line 29

d = base64.b64decode(r)

doesnt do anything

so you should remove it

same on line 53

d = base64.b64encode(e)

both of these should be dleted

wait ill send u a file with all the fixes

you look at it

[knotty root]

wat is this

[barren shale]

@wet girder

here

all the edits are done after
if working == True:

I made the code actually readable too

Hamza was deceitful

Now he is lucky

[tropic dagger]

Ok.

[barren shale]

v not working v

Removed more unnecessary stuff

Cuz I cant sleep while there's unnecessary code that i know of

[orchid frigate]

Please don't look at my code then you will probably never be able to sleep again

[tropic dagger]

Why did it open in C# Shell I have a python interpreter.

Bruh

And it was useless.

C# Shell opened a generic file.

[plain umbra]

I can do a little bit of programming myself

</head><b>amogus<\b></head>

[real lotus]

No

[last hill]

sus

[barren shale]

nvm turns out its nessecary stuff

ill try to make it unnessceary tho

wrote one letter

now its working good

this is fully working and tested

i needed to add an s to json.load so it loads from a string instead of a file

saves like 5 lines

[barren shale]

@wet girder have you tested it

Cuz i lied about the fully tested part

[wet girder]

not really

[barren shale]

I only tested after the fix

Its woeking

But then i did more edits that i didnt test

[wet girder]

the code looks like it should work

[barren shale]

Kk

If you implemented it to the bot i can test it here

[wet girder]

I did put it to the bot

[barren shale]

Kk ill try

~definetraits "immortal"

[bitter sedge]

Traits defined!

[barren shale]

~btrait Hamza

Wtf

~definetraits "attractive"

[bitter sedge]

Traits defined!

[barren shale]

~btrait Hamza

~define traits "Immortal"

~definetraits "Ugly"

[bitter sedge]

Traits defined!

[barren shale]

~btrait Hamza

Why does it say invalid

Always

[wet girder]

because it is immortal not "Immortal"

[barren shale]

I tried

Both

[barren shale]

[wet girder]

~definetraits lucky

[bitter sedge]

Traits defined!

[barren shale]

You dont have to do ""

Wtf you need to fix the tutorial

~definetraits immortal

[bitter sedge]

Traits defined!

[wet girder]

I already fixed the tutorial

[barren shale]

~btraits Hamza

~btrait Hamza

[bitter sedge]

The converted map:

[barren shale]

You should make the first argument the name

And the others are the traits

Instead of having to seperate commands

[wet girder]

well yeah true

[barren shale]

Its working

And try not to name things with 1 letter

Makes fixing things harder

Its so bad you couldnt tell that somethings dont do anything

[wet girder]

I only name file as f but otherwise I 99% of the time use more than one character

[barren shale]

The compressed and encoded things were r and e

And there was a d

That was never used

[wet girder]

oh yeah I copied those from Igniz's code

[barren shale]

Dont be like iginiz

Or u will be dead like him

xd

[knotty root]

~definetraits lucky

[bitter sedge]

Traits defined!

[knotty root]

~definetraits strong

[bitter sedge]

Traits defined!

[knotty root]

~traits

Well this is not bad

[wet girder]

Just use #🤖bot-commands in the future

[knotty root]

ok

[knotty root]

can u fix
Something went wrong while processing this image, try again and if this image doesn't work contact Jupe#1829

[raw wagon]

Sorry I didn't see,

they are right tho.

a+b+c=4
a^(2)+b^(2)+c^(2)=10
a^(3)+b^(3)+c^(3)=22
a^(4)+b^(4)+c^(4)=

The one who can solve this,

is a genius.

[barren shale]

bruh 3 equations

3 varibales

or however u spell it

veribles

idk

variable

it should be 46 tho

if im not wrong

[knotty root]

i see you guys are fmiliar with worlfram alpha

[knotty root]

~define trait "strong","regeneration","giant","immune","tough"

~definetrait "strong","regeneration","giant","immune","tough"

~define trait "strong","regeneration","immune","tough"

~definetrait "strong","regeneration","immune","tough"

~definetraits "strong","regeneration","giant","immune","tough"

[bitter sedge]

Traits defined!

[knotty root]

~btrait Ylokuwu

~btrait Ylokuwu

[orchid frigate]

Next time use #🤖bot-commands

[barren shale]

@wet girder trait editor isnt working on characters with spaces in their name

[barren shale]

Nvm its 50

[wet girder]

ye Ik

I'm gonna fix it today

it's really easy fix

[barren shale]

AND MAKE IT ONE COMMAND

And if the name doesn't exist make it write an error

And then its perfect

[sick belfry]

Did the traits added? Or is it planned today too?

[wet girder]

Gonna do it today

gonna do it now

["boat", "healing_aura", "energized", "ratKing", "vermin", "savage", "miner", "veteran", "wise", "strong_minded", "peaceful", "zombie", "infected", "plague", "blessed", "madness", "immortal", "crippled", "eyepatch", "tough", "strong", "weak", "stupid", "genius", "regeneration", "ugly", "fat", "attractive", "fast", "slow", "gluttonous", "burning_feet", "cold_aura", "bomberman", "pyromaniac", "eagle_eyed", "short_sighted", "lucky", "unlucky", "immune", "agile", "deceitful", "bloodlust", "pacifist", "ambitious", "content", "honest", "paranoid", "greedy", "weightless", "giant"]```
This is everything amp has atm so it is kinda hard to find the ones that are not in it yet

@sick belfry if you know any missing could you tell those

[sick belfry]

Okay

Kingslayer and mageslayer

I don't see this two there

Also, is there tiny?

[wet girder]

added

[sick belfry]

Okay.. i don't see anymore missing

Wait

[wet girder]

There seems to be lots of odd traits missing

[sick belfry]

Immune? Is it there?

Ah it is

[wet girder]

["freeze_proof", "fire_proof", "fire_blood", "acid_proof", "acid_blood", "burning_feet", "tiny", "mageslayer", "kingslayer", "boat", "healing_aura", "energized", "ratKing", "vermin", "savage", "miner", "veteran", "wise", "strong_minded", "peaceful", "zombie", "infected", "plague", "blessed", "madness", "immortal", "crippled", "eyepatch", "tough", "strong", "weak", "stupid", "genius", "regeneration", "ugly", "fat", "attractive", "fast", "slow", "gluttonous", "burning_feet", "cold_aura", "bomberman", "pyromaniac", "eagle_eyed", "short_sighted", "lucky", "unlucky", "immune", "agile", "deceitful", "bloodlust", "pacifist", "ambitious", "content", "honest", "paranoid", "greedy", "weightless", "giant"]```
These are there now

[sick belfry]

I'll translate and ask for help to other people

[wet girder]

Nice, thank you

[sick belfry]

There is two burning_feet

[wet girder]

damnit

fixed

[barren shale]

Is there not a list of them

Cant you ask mastef or maxim

Or maybe Cody

[wet girder]

I have the list

but it is huge

[barren shale]

Show me

[sick belfry]

+skin burns

+evil (i guess)

+rat

+cursed

Yeah no more

[barren shale]

heres all of them from the list u gave me

used code to get them

dont think i dont have a life and started writing them one by one

[sick belfry]

There is no mageslayer trait in that

[barren shale]

Well then it doesnt exist in the list he gave me

Just checked with Search

Doesnt exist there

I wann try something

~definetraits boat,energized,ratKing,rat,healing_aura,savage,miner,veteran,wise,strong_minded,peaceful,zombie,infected,plague,blessed,cursed,evil,kingslayer,giant,tiny,madness,immortal,crippled,eyepatch,skin_burns,tough,strong,weak,stupid,genius,regeneration,ugly,fat,attractive,fast,slow,gluttonous,burning_feet,acid_blood,acid_proof,fire_blood,fire_proof,freeze_proof,cold_aura,bomberman,pyromaniac,eagle_eyed,short_sighted,lucky,unlucky,immune,agile,deceitful,bloodlust,pacifist,ambitious,content,honest,paranoid,greedy,weightless

[bitter sedge]

Traits defined!

[barren shale]

Muhahaha

[abstract dust]

what does king rat trait do

[barren shale]

~btrait Hamza

[barren shale]

The king rat has it

Probably

@wet girder u added them yet ?

I want my all trait hamza

[wet girder]

not yet

[abstract dust]

oh yeah i know the rat king has it but what does it do

[barren shale]

The game uses traits to identify creatures

Like boats have the boat trait

[sick belfry]

Humans:

[knotty root]

what is the language worldbox is using ?

[barren shale]

C# unity

[knotty root]

hm cool

i know some of c

you looks like you are from north africa

[barren shale]

Im from syria

[knotty root]

Nice i'm from morocco :)

[wraith turtle]

does anyone here know bout roblox studio

i need help

[south vale]

where do i download maps

[knotty root]

#🌐map-downloads

Just press this blue thing

It’ll take you there

[north dune]

lenny has never looked so good

[barren shale]

oh my

😳

[empty jacinth]

🗿

[cyan sage]

~traiteditor~

~traiteditor

[bitter sedge]

Sending trait guide to DMs!

[north dune]

[untold prairie]

waiting for djs v13

is there any discord bot developers here?

[barren shale]

jupe

i guess

[wet girder]

I am but I use discord.py

#include <iostream>
using namespace std;

class MathClass {
  public:
    //addition functions
    int add(int num1, int num2) {
        return(num1 + num2);
    }
    
    float add(float num1, float num2) {
        return(num1 + num2);
    }
};

int main() {
    //create math object
    MathClass mathObj;
    
    //make calculator in loop
    while(true){
      //ask user what action they want to do
      cout << "What action do you want to do" << endl;
      cout << "1. add" << endl;
      
      //take users input of what they want to do
      int want;
      cin >> want;
      
      //do what users want to do with MathClass
      switch (want) {
          case 1:
            int x, y;
            cout << "What 2 numbers do you want to add" << endl;
            cin >> x;
            cin >> y;
            int sum = mathObj(x, y);
            cout << sum << endl;
      }
      
      //ask user if they want to continue using the calculator
      int cont;
      cout << "Do you want to continue using this application" << endl << "1. Yes" << endl << "2. No" << endl;
      cin >> cont;
      if(cont != 1){
          break;
      }
    }
    
    return 0;
}```
I am making some shitty calculator in IT class

this code totally works atm

like totally

for sure no errors that I don't know how to resolve

[untold prairie]

oh cool!

do you have any bot or

[wet girder]

@bitter sedge is created mostly by me

I'm just not really active updating it anymore

[untold prairie]

that must be hard

[wet girder]

Well not harder than anything else. Discord.py is pretty damn easy to use and it can be used to so many things with pretty basic knowledge

    @commands.command()
    @commands.cooldown(1, 30, commands.BucketType.user)
    async def dadjoke(self, ctx):
        jokes = ["Did you hear about the circus fire? It was in tents.", "Can February March? No, but April May!", "It’s inappropriate to make a ‘dad joke’ if you’re not a dad. It’s a faux pa.", "Wanna hear a joke about paper? Never mind—it’s tearable.", "How do lawyers say goodbye? We’ll be suing ya!", "What’s the best way to watch a fly fishing tournament? Live stream.", "Spring is here! I got so excited I wet my plants.", "I could tell a joke about pizza, but it’s a little cheesy.", "Don’t trust atoms. They make up everything!", "When does a joke become a dad joke? When it becomes apparent.", "What’s an astronaut’s favourite part of a computer? The space bar.", "I don’t play soccer because I enjoy the sport. I’m just doing it for kicks!", "Why are elevator jokes so classic and good? They work on many levels.", "Why do bees have sticky hair? Because they use a honeycomb.", "What do you call a fake noodle? An impasta.", "Which state has the most streets? Rhode Island.", "What did the coffee report to the police? A mugging.", "Why did the scarecrow win an award? Because he was outstanding in his field.", "I made a pencil with two erasers. It was pointless.", "I’m reading a book about anti-gravity. It’s impossible to put down!"]
        await ctx.send(random.choice(jokes))```
This is abadonded command but I need to mostly do stuff like this

but there's #🔁map-conversion which is definetly hard

I didn't create the original code for it

but I try to update it every now and then

[untold prairie]

that's look kinda easy

[wet girder]

it is

[untold prairie]

i'm mostly make rpg bot in Node.JS

mongodb make me crazy

[wet girder]

I've never used mongodb

database for @bitter sedge is firebase

[untold prairie]

cool, as long as I know firebase is kinda fast for large data sets

[orchid frigate]

Making a game engine is so fun to do, unity code was so boring in comparison

[agile prism]

Wow im in a cave

[tropic dagger]

You could MathClass::add a template function and it'll allow any type. It could also be used to concatenate strings if you're smart.

template<typename T>
class MathClass {
   public:
   // Addition function
   T add(T num1, T num2) {
       return (num1 + num2);
   }
};

Something like that.

On top of that, ensure all variables are declared as well.

I'm gonna mess with that code hold up.

[wet girder]

the code wasn't even meant to be good but thank you for this. I'm real trying to learn c++ but it's hard af

[tropic dagger]

It is.

[wet girder]

Coming from python background stuff like declaring variables and adding semicolons etc. is harder for me to learn

[tropic dagger]

Also learncpp.com is pretty useful.

[tropic dagger]

I understand that.

[wet girder]

I'mma check that out for sure

[tropic dagger]

I started with python but never fell into those habits.

I moved to JS.

[wet girder]

I love python so much. I can do almost anything so quickly and it most of the times just works

[tropic dagger]

I enjoy python when it doesn't throw an error.

Like TabError.

[wet girder]

Ig I have some python specific habits because I don't remember when was the last time I've had TabError

[barren shale]

or just use doubles

because that wont work if the class doesnt have an override for the + operation

ints get casted to doubles or floats automatically

atleast in C#

[tropic dagger]

They do in C++ as well but if the user gives a string then reality breaks @barren shale.

A try block will work though.

[barren shale]

you can + a string

[tropic dagger]

Actually...

[tropic dagger]

No the method takes a double parameter.

[barren shale]

why would you give a string in a MathClass

[tropic dagger]

Mistype?

[barren shale]

Uhhh

[tropic dagger]

Typo?

Error?

[barren shale]

just check

[tropic dagger]

Trying to break it?

[barren shale]

before trying to add

[tropic dagger]

Or use a try... catch block.

[barren shale]

they are expensive

checking is way better

you only use try for things that you dont know how they can go wrong

but you know thye can go wrong

[tropic dagger]

Yeah true

[barren shale]

like multithreaded work

isnt there something like int.TryParse

like in C#

[tropic dagger]

I don't know how typeof() works.

My theory for checking is:

[barren shale]

in C# you just do int.TryParse

[tropic dagger]

if ((typeof(want) == string) || (typeof(want) == char) {
   mathObj.add();
else {
   cout << "Don't break me.";
}

[barren shale]

yea but that doesnt cover all the types

[tropic dagger]

But I don't know if that'll work.

[barren shale]

i guess in c++ try catch is ur only option

cuz there's no trying to parse

[tropic dagger]

Doubles, into, floats will work.

Bools are weird.

You only need to check if it's a string or a char.

[flint lichen]

Does anyone know if you buy the game on the website will you have to rebuy it we it's released on steam?

[tropic dagger]

You probably will, @flint lichen.

But also #🌋worldbox-chat.

[flint lichen]

oh ok my bad

thank you

[wet girder]

No you don't. You'll get free Steam key

[barren shale]

Imagine reading #📕information

[orchid frigate]

Anyway so this will be my daily message for saying how much I hate coding on phone

Sadly I'm out of town once more so this will be my only choice again

[wet girder]

I like to use those as opportunities to learn more with Sololearn and YouTube

So basically when I can't code I watch shit ton of YouTube videos about cybersec, coding etc. and use Sololearn to learn coding

it's way more fun than trying to code on phone

[orchid frigate]

I don't watch alot of videos about coding because I mainly do it for fun right now, plus I have like no free time nor place to be able to hear what they are saying so I just write a couple of lines and adding to a lil project I have on phone

[wet girder]

I have noise cancelling headphones so I can just put those on when I want to listen to something

[orchid frigate]

Just learned that Windows forms are better then I thought, who knew

At first I thought they are complete garbage for an app, which they are but they can be used as a base for a game engine

[barren shale]

Dont

They are shit for drawing things on them

They use the CPU too

I've tried before

Not fun

[knotty root]

I’m haking into your roblox account

[untold prairie]

[orchid frigate]

Yes, but yes

I'm only using them for testing until I figure out a better way to do it

[languid saffron]

hey

[orchid frigate]

I use the semicolons so frequently at this point I put them in everything, even outside of coding

Python code is hard for me to read sometimes just because there are no semicolons, but yea they are pretty annoying sometimes

There are some specific situations in which they are hard to figure out where to be put

Like in big code blocks with a shit ton of every type of bracket or even in for statements

I always put a , in the for statements because I forget it should be a ;

[knotty root]

hi

[tropic dagger]

@orchid frigate DirectX?

Or java.awt?

Or anything else?

HTML forms would be better.

[kindred shale]

i dont like cpp ignore whitespaces

[tropic dagger]

Why?

It's convenient.

And Python, which doesn't, takes a hit in my opinion of it for it's whitespace policy.

[tropic dagger]

Hell even unity.

[kindred shale]

lol when i type something in terminal it content white space c++ just ignore it and wont read it all

[tropic dagger]

Oh mean cin?

[kindred shale]

ye

[tropic dagger]

Use getline(cin, varname) for that.

Syntax may be different.

It's a part of the <string> header file.

Although I think it's included in <iostream> as well.

[kindred shale]

can i do #include <bits/stdc++.h>?

[inner saddle]

ok

[tropic dagger]

I- what the fuck?

Sure?

[abstract dust]

zibblobet has evolved

and I level up from that message

[wet girder]

I have no idea how to start making a game engine

I found this article and this seems good to follow atleast to some point

https://shahriyarshahrabi.medium.com/write-your-own-game-engine-df1132908cdf

some materials in that are almost 4 years old but still

wtf is this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j0_u26Vpb4w

I think I broke my brain with this video

[barren shale]

This is hard

What language do you want to use ?

When making an engine you just need something that lets you draw on the screen to start off of

if youre using c++ maybe go with DirectX or OpenGL which is the hard option or something like SFML which is the easy option

[wet girder]

I'm gonna use opengl

[tropic dagger]

Yes, I can now send images.

[main brook]

should i install manjaro or ubuntu

feels like im getting bored of ubuntu

but damn i dont wanna lose the features

like not able to install unstable package

(that message about unstable package was sarcasm btw)

[barren shale]

you should yes

[wet girder]

I like most of Debian based linux distros but Ubuntu is my favorite

My friend is trying to get me to use Arch

[knotty root]

I would like to once again remind all of you that I am smart.

#⌨coders-cave

[orchid silo]

Okay?

[wet girder]

I have 2 choices:

1. learn web development for summer job I have in about 30 days because I have no fucking idea how it works
2. learn how to make game engine and worry about the summer job later

2nd is way more fun but 1st would be more useful

[knotty root]

@wet girder you're smart

thanks for letting me know

[silver flicker]

Does anyone know where I can find the code that controls citizens to remove ruins?

[cunning summit]

lua syntax is not only art, it's perfection

[main brook]

lua interpreter is not hell, its heaven with satan

[untold prairie]

:(

[orchid frigate]

:(

[stark ravine]

What's that

[barren shale]

Slime simulations look kewl

not if u miss up the settings tho

[orchid frigate]

hmmm im thinking of starting to learn rust but i dont know if i should, can any of yall rust people say something about it

[barren shale]

What do you want to do

Rust is pretty low level so it might be a bit hard

[orchid frigate]

i mainly just want to learn a second language, not anything in particular but i dont know which language to choose

[barren shale]

Just go python then

Pretty simple and has a lot of potential

Its slow tho

[orchid frigate]

uhhhhhh fine

god i hate python

[barren shale]

I couldnt run the alime simulation on it

It ran on 1.6 FPS

Had to switch to java

Which ran stably at 100k slime in a 750x750 map

[orchid frigate]

ah java is also interesting to me

[barren shale]

Java is C#

Like i dont know shit in java

Still made the simulation in an hour

They are super similar

[orchid frigate]

ye i have mistaken java for c# on multiple occasions

[barren shale]

But java is faster

Which was good for my slime simulation

[orchid frigate]

i wanna create a game engine but i dont want it to be in c# nor c++, mainly because im bored of c# and dont really like c++, im thinking lua might be good

[barren shale]

Java

It is

https://www.lwjgl.org/

Heres the library

And there are youtube videos on how to use it

Its a bit hard

https://www.lwjgl.org/frameworks

You can use a framework

Which has some things done for you so its easier

[barren shale]

I think lua is only good for scripting

Its very slow

[orchid frigate]

how tf do you pronounce this name

[barren shale]

What name

[orchid frigate]

lwjgl

[barren shale]

Light weight java game librrary

Minecraft is made with it

Its just a collection of binded libraries

[orchid frigate]

ah nice i thought that lwjgl is just a bunch of keyboard smashes

[barren shale]

Like opengl and openal

[orchid frigate]

i think ima do something crazy and attempt to game a game engine in rust, its a crazy idea i know but atleast it might be more fun then writing "public" and "void" for the 10000 time

[barren shale]

Ita not a crazy idea

Rust is built for performance and stability

Making it a great idea

[knotty root]

its called coders cave because you guys live in caves

#⌨coders-cave

[barren shale]

Gtfo of my cave

[knotty root]

can u fix amp pls

it doesn't work

it keeps say6ing contact jupe

[barren shale]

What isnt working

[knotty root]

half the time

[barren shale]

@wet girder fix ur shit

[knotty root]

thx 👍

🧀

[barren shale]

Np

[knotty root]

well havbe fun in your cave

coder

[barren shale]

Go away

[barren shale]

Writing public void is the funnest thing

[orchid frigate]

the bug report was great tho
"idk whats broken but just fix it ok?"

[barren shale]

[orchid frigate]

no

its not

[barren shale]

Top tier speech skills

[orchid frigate]

ima go insane if i type it one more time

[barren shale]

You just do

P

U

B

L

I

C

Like that

There are public things in rust

I think

Idk its similar to c

[orchid frigate]

its always great when it takes 30 minutes to figure out how to install rust because visual studio code doesnt have like any language previously installed

[wet girder]

I would if I knew what was broken and had time and motivation

[barren shale]

@knotty root whats beoken

[wet girder]

No I know when it says to contact me

but I don't know why it doesn't work

[barren shale]

What isnt working

[wet girder]

No idea

something in analyzing yhe image fucks up

[barren shale]

The map converter

?

[wet girder]

oh ye

[wet girder]

when you do ~c or ~dc it might randomly not analyze the image correctly

works 90% of the time

vut sometimes with certain images noy

[barren shale]

Is it random

Like u tried the same image

Sometimes it work sometimes it dowsnt

Oe what

[knotty root]

no it works 50% of the time lol

[wet girder]

Nope

Some images don't work

[wet girder]

has it really became tht bad

shit

[knotty root]

yes pslsss

[barren shale]

You changed nothing with the code?

[knotty root]

when ws the last time you saw #🔁map-conversion

[barren shale]

Never touched it ?

[wet girder]

I've done same changes but not to image analyzing

[barren shale]

[knotty root]

like i do ~c with the image

[barren shale]

Bruh doesnt matter

[knotty root]

and then it doesn't work and tells me to do it again

[barren shale]

This is coding

U change one letter

[knotty root]

and i have to wait for the slow down to end

[barren shale]

Everything breaks

[knotty root]

and then i do ~c again

[wet girder]

lol

[knotty root]

and then it doesn't work

[wet girder]

I always reinstall the image and it somehow works

[barren shale]

Maybe try to revert the changes?

[wet girder]

Then it'd break everything

[barren shale]

Remake time

OOOHH YEA

[wet girder]

I just nees to get doing it some day

noy today because I'm busy today

[barren shale]

Doesnt seem hard

Good luck

If u need help tell me

[orchid frigate]

rust uses pub instead of public which is amazing
i already like this language

[barren shale]

[orchid frigate]

also im realising that whoever made this language really doesnt like to type full words
for instance: public is pub(awesome name btw), function is fn, printline is println

[barren shale]

Println in java too

[orchid frigate]

damn rust is way more difficult then expected

its also difficult to learn because there are like 0 forums about it

[barren shale]

Yea

I told u its a bit low level

There should be documentations tho

[orchid frigate]

there are, alot of them are from the rust cookbook

[barren shale]

Well if you are experienced enough

You should be able to do something with them

If you cant

Go for a high level language

[orchid frigate]

its sorta like javascript and at times like c# but at the same time its way different

[barren shale]

The wikipedia says its similar to c

Which is pretty low level

[orchid frigate]

my main problem are the use tags, im trying to generate random nums and all sources and telling me to use std::rand but there is no std::rand

[barren shale]

Maybe watch a youtube video

[orchid frigate]

i wonder if i havent downloaded something

[barren shale]

On how to get started

[orchid frigate]

i did but i got bored, the guy was mainly explaining stuff like how variables work and how to print out stuff in the console

which is pretty universal for all languages

[wet girder]

you should totally learn rockstar not some rust or anything that's actually usable in the real world

rockstar is the real deal

[orchid frigate]

hell ye

[wet girder]

just imagine being able to call yourself rockstar developer

[orchid frigate]

we can finally work on gta 69 bois

which makes me think about in what language gta is made in

[wet girder]

probably c++

[orchid frigate]

it is c++

interesting

should have used rockstar

[barren shale]

Its c++

Cuz its faster which doesn't matter anymore

[orchid frigate]

i mean people might mistake you for a rockstar games developer so...

[wet girder]

lmao

that'd make it even better

[barren shale]

But its lower level which makes it better for complex games

Free marketing

Ohh yes

[wet girder]

I honestly started learning rockstar in my IT class just for the lulz

[barren shale]

Go rewrite amp in C#

[orchid frigate]

no

[barren shale]

Makes ur life a lot easier

[orchid frigate]

if you are coming from python c# might not be the best choice

[barren shale]

Oh right jupe doesnt know c#

[wet girder]

hmm, would honestly be intresting

[barren shale]

Or does he

[wet girder]

I know some basics

[barren shale]

C# much more stable

[wet girder]

but i can always learn ya know

[barren shale]

And much more easy to debug with

And i think its easier to understand

For me atleast

[orchid frigate]

c# is very easy

[wet girder]

well it's meant to actually ve used in large scale so ofc

[orchid frigate]

but takes alot of time to learn

[wet girder]

python is made for scripting so it's not the best

[barren shale]

Yea

Python is for data science

And data structures

[wet girder]

it's easier after already knowing a programming language

[barren shale]

Machine learning

And things like that

After you learn your first language its done

You know what to google on your second one

[orchid frigate]

look at rust and you will realise thats not the case, there are functions inside of functions in there its crazy

[barren shale]

Programming isnt learning how to code

Its learning how to use google

[wet girder]

lol

[barren shale]

I can code with any language

[orchid frigate]

i (always) never use google for my code

[wet girder]

but that's honestly true

[barren shale]

Ive never made something mildly complicated without using google

In my 6 years

Of coding

I still have coding projects from 2013

The code is shit

[wet girder]

My dad has been software developer almost 20 years and still uses google sometimes

[orchid frigate]

imagine the people who made stack overflow without stack overflow
the legends

[barren shale]

Indeed

https://c.tenor.com/vUh4tCI4QkMAAAAM/indeed-agree.gif

Even tho they had other things

Like documentation

[wet girder]

The thing is i could debug and code without google if I had like documentation but it'd way slower and more annoying

[barren shale]

But documentation is sometimes too hard for my brain

The only thing i googled for java

Is how to print on the console

Havent google anything else yet

[wet girder]

I don't honestly understand why java is used

[orchid frigate]

the examples in documentations are always insane
in c# i searched for a try/catch statement example and got code that i could hardly understand the first line of

[wet girder]

it doesn't seem good for basically anything compared to other languages

[barren shale]

High level but also fast

Java is very fast for a high level language

Its like 20x times faster than python

And likw 2-3 times faster than X#

C#

[wet girder]

Python is super slow ofc

[barren shale]

Easy for cross platform

[orchid frigate]

who cares about fast when you can make a game that runs at a constant 40 fps
at this point companies should just cap the fps at a const lol

[wet girder]

How fast is Lua

[barren shale]

Python fast

Xd

[orchid frigate]

since when lol

[barren shale]

No i mean lua is as fast as python

I use linux cuz windows wont boot on my broken laptop

[orchid frigate]

binding of isaac is made in lua so i like it

[barren shale]

And i couldnt get C# to draw a gui on my screen

For the alime simulation

So i had to go python

But it was too slow for it

[wet girder]

I'd use linux if I didn't want to play video games without having to deal with so much shit

[barren shale]

The i went for java and everything just worked

[barren shale]

I wouldnt

[orchid frigate]

i would use lua if i wasnt too lazy to figuere out how a virtual machine works

[barren shale]

And i dont recommend

Once u dive too deep

[orchid frigate]

linux*

[barren shale]

It becomes harder

[wet girder]

I know

that's why I'd love using it

[barren shale]

I deleted one thing because of a problem

And spotify stopped working

And chrome stopped working

And shit ton od other things

I had to reinstall a lot of things

[orchid frigate]

when there is an error in your code just delete the code block lol

[barren shale]

Just because i deleted one thing

[barren shale]

Stackoverflow told me to delete it

And wrote the warning after it told me to delete it

Like wtf

[orchid frigate]

f

how is the terminal on linux i heard its good

[barren shale]

Its used to download stuff

Run stuff

And some other things

[untold prairie]

Github student pack

[orchid frigate]

rust is so fucking fun to learn damn

[quick ferry]

It's the best, once you get into it you start missing it everywhere else.

[barren shale]

Ive seen people use ut

It looks very fun ngl

[orchid frigate]

linux looks great ngl, i need to try it some time

[wet girder]

It's awesome

[barren shale]

after a couple of hours

i managed to implement sprite rendering

making a game engine is hard

[north dune]

HamzaEngine games when

[barren shale]

Its actually called HEngine

Probably gonna make a game with it

After the exams

[orchid scroll]

i want to switch to linux, but i play alot of rust

the game not the language lol

[barren shale]

I dont recommend switching to linux for fun

Because it isnt

[orchid scroll]

ive used kali and ubuntu for some projects, mainly ubuntu for servers and kali for cybersec, didnt hate it. Also the pi distro

[barren shale]

You used them for projects

[wet girder]

My advice is to try dual booting and try if you like it that way

[barren shale]

Yea maybe try dual booting

[orchid scroll]

i had dual booting set up. but i recently reformatted. ill get it again though

[barren shale]

Most of the things u can do in linux can be done in windows

But it doesnt apply the other way

[wet girder]

I daily drived Linux Mint for a week with dual booting and gosh I hate Linux Mint but otherwise I fell in love with it, just need to chance distro

Linux gives way more control

and freedom

vut it's also shit ton of work

[barren shale]

And also the things linux give

Are too deep for normal users

[wet girder]

yep

[barren shale]

Ive been forced to use ubuntu for a year now

Still dont know what is the difference between apt and apt-get

If one doesnt work i try the other

[wet girder]

I knew it at some point vut I forgot because it wasn't significant thing

[exotic vessel]

Huh so this is where all the nerds go

[astral basin]

@north dune here it comes

There it was

[north dune]

huh

oh

[astral basin]

[exotic vessel]

[weak holly]

this is where i kill my brain

[barren shale]

why do people think you have to be a nerd if youre a programmer

i just literally can google better than u

nothing more

[exotic vessel]

Uh oh

[weak holly]

im a tf2 script maker

[exotic vessel]

Here comes the nerd train

[weak holly]

but bad scripts

[exotic vessel]

Xd

Im just joking

[stuck garden]

/blurplefy classic variation:Extra White gradient:Extra More Gradient order:Dark Blurple, Blurple, White

[wet girder]

Well I'd consider myself a nerd to some extent

[barren shale]

Added Keyboard inputs, Cameras or viewports whatever u wanna call them

https://tenor.com/view/kronk-emperors-new-groove-its-all-coming-together-gif-12813012

[north dune]

is your example of all of that... a png with 1 pixel visible

[barren shale]

too hard to make it not a png with 1 pixel

do u want me to record a video of me pressing keys on my keyboard on my phone

cuz im not gonna do it

too lazy