damn you just said the only true thing you will ever say in your life
#⌨coders-cave
barren shale
wet girder
discord.net documentation sucks ass
barren shale
discord.net documentation sucks ass
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what are you trying to do?
cinder surge
I go to a school for programming I wouldn't have a passing grade if I didn't know how to code
I just don't ever learn anything worth while, just focus on the really basic stuff they give hs
I think I got the short straw considering the good programming classes were taught by arguably our worse teacher to have ever taught at the time
2 out of I think 72 people who took the certifications test passed when he taught
Maybe I don't know how to code
wet girder
Thing is you can never learn coding in school. Good teacher doesn't teach you how to write good software because that's something that's always changing so you need to relearn it over and over again. a good progrmming teacher teaches the absolutely basics and then how to learn beyond that point
That's what my teachers did in vocational school and all 20 people in my class are good junior level software developers now
Granted it's been a month I graduated
And you also need to start a project on your free time asap
The single best way to learn
orchid frigate
I go to a school for programming I wouldn't have a passing grade if I didn't kno...
İ go to a school for economics
Do İ know anything about economics?
No İ cheated on 8 of the 10 tests İ took
School is not reliable
cinder surge
Fair
I cheated on all my economics shit
Most of it was easily taught by one Google search or common sense
barren shale
Just tryna figure out how tf commands work in it
make sure you go straight to slash commands
and you can look at the sb 2 code
InteractionHandler.cs
wet girder
I'd preferably want both slash and text based commands that just work identically
I'll check sb2 code tho thanks
barren shale
text based commands are gonna be obsolute soon
wet girder
They're technically obsolete already but fuck discord I like them
barren shale
i mean they did the right thing
text based commands had too many issues
the bot had to read every single message and check if it starts with the prefix
wet girder
Well yes but when I've fully memorized all the commands it's just faster to use text based
barren shale
i guess so
wet girder
I use purely text based when moderating this server
wet girder
the bot had to read every single message and check if it starts with the prefix
Hmm that's true. Big hit on performance that one
I'm gonna be logging all deletions because moderation bot
But adding reads to the mix is not preferable
Maybe I'll just use only slash commands lol
barren shale
i would definetly start with the slash commands
and then see how i can make the text commands fit
and you always want the slash commands as backup incase discord comes up with some new shit that makes your text commands not work
and then they tell you that they said they were obsolute
wet girder
Yeah slash commands are gonna be main way of doing it for sure
It's just funny that discord.net setup your first bot tells you to do text based commands and when you go to the page to do so it tells you to not do text based and do slash command instead lmao
barren shale
and then you cant find the example code for the interaction handler for the slash commands
wet girder
Yep
barren shale
because it gives it to you bit by bit and expects you to know how to piece it together
wet girder
It's shitty documentation
barren shale
so you have to go and dig through the github examples to find it
wet girder
My workplace has better documentation for it's apis and the documentation is garbage
barren shale
`InteractionHandler.cs`
you can copy pasta this from sb 2
wet girder
Gonna check it out rn
barren shale
and add this
await _services.GetRequiredService<InteractionHandler>()
.InitializeAsync();
in RunAsync in the Program.cs
doesnt matter where you add it
you can check the RunAsync in sb 2 too i think i added it after the registering the logger
wet girder
Oh god I have to figure out what service provider does
barren shale
Oh god I have to figure out what service provider does
its kind of like ASP.NET if you used it before
you can add services to it
and it will automatically inject them to your modules
next lotus
and add this
```csharp
await _services.GetRequiredService<InteractionHa...
what are you doing
why aer you
manually getting the service
use constructor wtf
barren shale
Because you have to add it to the services either way
This is different from asp.net
It’s a bit similar but it’s not the same
mossy cedar
what are you doing
thats quite the pfp you got there
static solar
i would definetly start with the slash commands
I hate slash commands. I hate slash commands. I hate slash commands. I hate slash commands. Text commands did the trick, why does everybody want me to switch now? I hate slash commands.
quartz pumice
I hate slash commands. I hate slash commands. I hate slash commands. I hate slas...
But why
Slash commands have easier arguments.. it's implementation in libraries was horrible but it's better now so
cold garden
next lotus
Thats a nice pfp
yep yosuga no sora is best anime
barren shale
yep yosuga no sora is best anime
orchid frigate
yep yosuga no sora is best anime
Aot peak
İt's the only anime i ever finished
Which means I'm qualified to say it's peak
toxic plover
aot is mid at most
fax
orchid frigate
Y'all must have been half asleep when watching
cinder surge
aot is mid at most
I never watched that much of aot but I definitely got to like season 2s end I think
It was well beyond mid
It was great
Still an anime though and anime culture hasn't hit the same for a while
Don't like it no mo
orchid frigate
Damn you didn't get to the best part
Season 3 and 4 are the real peak
The others are set ups for it
barren shale
if you think aot is great you havent watched great anime
orchid frigate
İ don't really watch anime
The only ones İ have watched is one piece until the fight with kaido
When it got boring because the fight was stretched over like 50 episodes
Black clover unfinished
Tokyo ghoul like 20 episodes
And that's it
quartz pumice
Ive watched a lot of horror anime
vapid prairie
horror anime is not really scary x)
Brother I got just the right stuff for you tho I haven't checked them out yet here Bloodsea /Monster /Shoujo tsubaki /Saki Sanoyabashi /overfiend /euphoria/ metamorphosis
cinder surge
if you think aot is great you havent watched great anime
Gotta be honest aot felt like peak anime from what I've watched
Alot of "peak" anime uses weird things like Lolis and all that
From what I know atleast
Also I at the least I know anime is Japanese for animation meaning all animation is classified as being anime meaning, once and for all, sponge Bob square pants is peak anime 🤓
next lotus
İ take that as a compliment
good, stay that way
next lotus
Gotta be honest aot felt like peak anime from what I've watched
normie, bandwagon, uncultured, clout chaser
cinder surge
normie, bandwagon, uncultured, clout chaser
What the fuck is a band wagon
I feel like you're acting more like the kind of person you think we are
We just have opinions and you're being kind of a jerk for it
next lotus
why so defensive
next lotus
yeah defensive
hardy field
Begins verbally attacking someone "Why are you being so defensive? It's not like I insulted you or anything"
next lotus
but the fact that he denies it is funny lol
jolly field
*Begins verbally attacking someone* "Why are you being so defensive? It's not li...
Sarcastic chicken of wisdom is pretty funny ngl
timid field
if you think aot is great you havent watched great anime
It's alright but people sure overate it
I honestly miss wit studio's animation style on aot
The animation was fluid
Now mappa just spams cgi
timid field
When it got boring because the fight was stretched over like 50 episodes
Read the manga
It's 75 percent faster
next lotus
id say the same but im just trying not to hurt anyone's feelings rn
cinder surge
but the fact that he denies it is funny lol
I don't really understand
Usually being defensive involves deflecting, changing the subject, and overall stating you are not wrong or giving a point as to why it's not wrong for you to think that
Nevermind you're right I was being defensive
Gosh I need to stop going to bed so late
barren shale
I barely managed to watch the first season
cinder surge
I don't get where he's coming from
cinder surge
I barely managed to watch the first season
I enjoyed the first season, but I guess that was mostly because the anime did fighting In a way I liked
I was younger when I watched it
Thinking back that really was just it
orchid frigate
I honestly miss wit studio's animation style on aot
They ruined mikasa
That's unforgivable
She looks like a man now
orchid frigate
id say the same but im just trying not to hurt anyone's feelings rn
Fuck peoples feelings say what you wanna say
If anyone actually is butthurt for it it's their problem they take internet people's opinions so seriously
next lotus
I barely managed to watch the first season
lmao imagine watching the newest season its goofy af
the comedy is....cringe, like at least on the first season they have some good side comedy but jesus cant bear the 3rd season
timid field
demon slayer is dogshit
It's alright but feels incomplete
lapis flint
barren shale
i wanna make a language where this would print Hello World
candid swift
part of a program im writing
File file = new File(target);
while (!file.exists()) {
// just wait ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
}
return target;
java 🤮
quartz pumice
She looks like a man now
I hate that that is what the children my age want to see 😭
next lotus
part of a program im writing
```
File file = new File(target);
while (!file.exi...
java
pallid ridge
What's wrong with java?
candid swift
What's wrong with java?
idk mayby it's because it's the beginner language and because im a beginner...
quartz pumice
What's wrong with java?
Its
- Old
- Slow
- Shitty
- Monopolized by corp
- Shitty memory management
barren shale
Its
1. Old
2. Slow
3. Shitty
4. Monopolized by corp
5. Shitty memory management
no
its
- Oracle
barren shale
it doesnt matter
not all languages need to be very fast
not everyone want speed
otherwise you'd see everything written in rust
quartz pumice
not all languages need to be very fast
That not #5
barren shale
Performance in general is not needed to this degree unless at very large scale
knotty root
What's wrong with java?
public static void main(String[] args) {
}
yeah yeah 'java v21 doesn't have this anymore' but really in any actual java codebase the chances of it being java 8 are nearly impossible
candid swift
Its
1. Old
2. Slow
3. Shitty
4. Monopolized by corp
5. Shitty memory management
we should all make a universal program language, extremely fast optimized, easy to learn and understand etc
knotty root
c# supremacy 💪
knotty root
we should all make a universal program language, extremely fast optimized, easy ...
That would be far too easy
(and boring)
candid swift
That would be far too easy
that... literally the purpose..
quartz pumice
we should all make a universal program language, extremely fast optimized, easy ...
asm
That's literally asm
candid swift
That's literally asm
it's not universal, proof i didn't knew it, at least i learned something
next lotus
What's wrong with java?
boilerplate, oracle's greedy license
pallid ridge
I have no idea what that means
barren shale
asm
yeah sure
with your 10 bazillion lines of code for hello world
i see you talking with haydot about hte millions of things that are not working out 
next lotus
I have no idea what that means
skill issue
next lotus
with your 10 bazillion lines of code for hello world
i think that 10 bazillion lines of code is just the print function, needs another 5 trillion lines for declaring the hello world string
orchid frigate
Y'all are the embodiment of skill issue
orchid frigate
i think that 10 bazillion lines of code is just the print function, needs anothe...
myString: db "Hello world!", 0
next lotus
i was being sarcastic
barren shale
myString: db "Hello world!", 0
okay now check if the first 4 letters are "Your" and if the string contains "mum" and if it does print "Your mum"
the 69 bazillion lines of code shall commence?
in C# it would be
String someString = "something";
if (someString.StartsWith("Your") && someString.Contains("mum")) {
Console.WriteLine("Your mum");
}
oh look easy to write and very readable
next lotus
now what if it's a collection of strings
you can do it with one line
public IEnumerable<string> ContainsYourMother(IEnumerable<string> strings) =>
strings.Where(x => x.StartsWith("Your", StringComparison.OrdinalIgnoreCase)
&& x.Contains("Mother"));
That's surprisingly easy
orchid frigate
In reality the check in c# is probably longer than it would be in assembly because the functions in c# that do this are actually fucking huge
And in assembly you make them and all you really have to do is just go through each byte and check if certain combinations are what you are looking for
That's like 30-40 lines of code if you filter all the useless things
barren shale
In reality the check in c# is probably longer than it would be in assembly becau...
the functions in C# are actually huge because it has all the safety checks needed
if you add all the safety checks needed in assembly it would be big too
and its all about practicality and DX
the DX of C# is way better than assembly
rose pawn
Is it illegal to nvm you guys would ban me for asking this
Jk you wouldn't (just incase)
orchid frigate
bro look at you you are comparing c# and assembly
you have gone completely insane
its like comparing latin to english 💀
but not the roman latin but some very old barely known version of latin that was the demo version of the newer latin
barren shale
im not the one who started it
obtuse grove
E
quartz pumice
For the past few days I've been trying to make an env on my grandparents computer to work on my os but it's so fucking slow 2 hours just to clone gcc source
Mostly gits fault for over engineering a download but 💀
I didn't know a lot of packages existed when I first made the makefile, so I haved to change alot of it because I installed cross compilers manually 😦
next lotus
bro look at you you are comparing c# and assembly
jfc i dont get that argument, people drop that all the time
everytime i say c# is better than java
some mfker will pop up
and say "you cant compare java and c#" like bruh wtf are you saying
you can compare anything with everything
and in this context, yes, i can compare assembly and c#, why cant i?
orchid frigate
For the past few days I've been trying to make an env on my grandparents compute...
That's why I hate building a cross compiler with a passion and why I don't switch distros as often
orchid frigate
and in this context, yes, i can compare assembly and c#, why cant i?
Because comparing c# to assembly is like comparing Egyptian glyphs with modern English
barren shale
Because comparing c# to assembly is like comparing Egyptian glyphs with modern E...
exactly
egpytian glyphs suck and have no use
next lotus
Because comparing c# to assembly is like comparing Egyptian glyphs with modern E...
yeah, that means c# is better
:)
orchid frigate
Y'all are the embodiment of skill issue
.
next lotus
Y'all are the embodiment of skill issue
your skill issue is...is.... is you cant write c#!!!!!
orchid frigate
- I can I started programming with c# unity
- Your skill issue is you you too much punctuation
knotty root
guys, im not a coder but pls make a bridge mod
Like it can be like 3 block big bridges, and ships can go under it
knotty root
i know that 1 block tech but that look gay
knotty root
<#647736347980726273>
ok
quartz pumice
Roses are red,
violets are blue;
Unexpected '{',
At line thirty-two.
quartz pumice
That's why I hate building a cross compiler with a passion and why I don't switc...
Yeah 😭 can't some gigachad prebuild every target for every version and publish?
I left it overnight and it's still compiling!
I don't even know if it will compile right
At least everything runs lol
orchid frigate
Goddamn how long did you sleep how is it still compiling
For me its done in like
15 mimutes
barren shale
bro has the intel year 69 jesus christ edition
its made out of 1 core which is made of wood
quartz pumice
bro has the intel year 69 jesus christ edition
It's a pentium on latest win10 with a shit ton of bloat and probably under clocked also
barren shale
you guys give windows a lot more shit than it deserves
yes it takes 50% of ram when your idle
but i've played games that use 90% of ram so windows doesnt really take up your ram when you are actually using it
same thing with cpu usage
its 10%-20% idle but if i use up all of the threads it will probably allow me to go to 95%-98% usage
so yeah it uses more ram and cpu than linux but it is not really that big of a deal
unless youre running a underclocked pentium
quartz pumice
yes it takes 50% of ram when your idle
That's just task manager
barren shale
That's just task manager
but linux problems are a way bigger downside than having some performance issues
barren shale
and linux users sugarcoat it so hard
it makes new people think linux is a perfect os
but when you actually use linux and start running into all the problems and compatability issues you will know
and if you critisize linux for the problems it has every linux user starts attacking you
quartz pumice
barren shale
python coders be like: 😔
open crypt
I made a code to mod the game where you can have triple map size from titanic *
Python is 3 years ago lol
quartz pumice
Python is soooo 3.11.4 years ago
open crypt
On .
next lotus
but linux problems are a way bigger downside than having some performance issues
linux security bruh
linux is more vulnerable than any windows os right now, it's just not targeted quite often because windows is the most common used os
knotty root
@oblique dust
steady flare
ello
barren shale
dont worry
there are a lot of dumb people like you in this server
you are not alone
rose pawn
What did bro do to you
jaunty sorrel
you are not alone
As a member of dumb, i can confirm
fading obsidian
Why coders cave?
quartz pumice
Why coders cave?
Cave for coders
knotty root
Which coding language is the best for total begginers
I have python but it won't do the commands and stuff
hardy field
Idk, ask your clone
rough crag
Dinosaurs:)
drowsy owl
Computing can be very stressful right? Anyone want to read a joke???
knotty root
I have python but it won't do the commands and stuff
What commands
Print, etc
do you have python installed
feral bramble
oh yeah this channel exists
next lotus
Which coding language is the best for total begginers
c#
old mural
print("yes") --to show off lua
That's like 5 other languages too
old mural
sure
jus showing off lua
also no offense but " shut up you self destructive weeb who cant even hold a conversation"
knotty root
Which coding language is the best for total begginers
***Visual Basic 👽 ***
its basic 👽
knotty root
do you have python installed
Yes
knotty root
Yes
okay
how are you running the commands
are you opening a command line or are you using a .py file
wet girder
***Visual Basic 👽 ***
**its basic 👽**
Oh gosh please no
I'm getting flashbacks just hearing that name
orchid frigate
also no offense but " shut up you self destructive weeb who cant even hold a con...
I usually wouldn't interfere because that's a good comeback but you are trying to "show off Lua"
Which is illogical
Because people usually try to hide their liking for Lua because of how shit it is
knotty root
fake hamza
Bro what
hot owl
Да блять
old mural
Because people usually try to hide their liking for Lua because of how shit it i...
lua aint shit
civic finch
there's only one hamza
where's hamza?
civic finch
🤣
old mural
We all lie to ourselves sometimes
i aint part of all
hushed orchid
I have python but it won't do the commands and stuff
Oof Python is pretty much the only language i can sorta do stuff on
Lua is pretty similar though
knotty root
Lua is pretty similar though
i dont think it is
hushed orchid
i dont think it is
Well, I don't know much about Lua, just the mere basics
And the syntax is kinda similar to Python's
Emphasis in the word "similar"
mossy cedar
knotty root
And the syntax is kinda similar to Python's
the only similarities I see is having no semicolons at the end of statements and dynamic typing
burnt sable
🥔
hushed orchid
the only similarities I see is having no semicolons at the end of statements and...
Oh well
I'm a beginner after all and know little about lua
orchid frigate
You must be banned from ever touching both c and c++ ever again
next lotus
Oof Python is pretty much the only language i can sorta do stuff on
try c# for a day
spark schooner
cool
hushed orchid
try c# for a day
I'd like to tbh
I've heard it's a common language for game development
quartz pumice
I've heard it's a common language for game development
becasue of Unity, which forces you to use it
its not as battle tested or as supported as something like Rust or C.. Its also different from alot of languages and a hassle to learn
barren shale
Bruh
stop spreading misinformation
C# is very good if you use it the right way
And its way easier to use the right way than things like rust or c
quartz pumice
ok
next lotus
its not as battle tested or as supported as something like Rust or C.. Its also ...
if c# is not battle tested, then python, java and js is half assed
quartz pumice
if c# is not battle tested, then python, java and js is half assed
javascript was made in 2 work days, java was made for a remote, python is just python
so..
they very much are half assed
queen zodiac
The 
chat is offline
knotty root
its not as battle tested or as supported as something like Rust or C.. Its also ...
Yeah cause C# isn't used in one of the most popular desktop and web application frameworks or anything
static solar
javascript was made in 2 work days, java was made for a remote, python is just p...
JavaScript was a mistake
orchid frigate
And its way easier to use the right way than things like rust or c
Yes you just gotta learn every fucking oop rule there is to be able to do half of what rust does with like 6 main rules total
Oop was a mistake
Even the guy who made it admitted it
They also keep updating the language with the most random features that will end up being used a total of 5 times total and noone will even learn about them
barren shale
i almost use every new feature in C#
Most of them are really good
Oop is very good if you know how to use it
Which is not very hard to do
orchid frigate
What's the point of overcomplicating the basics of a language
When you can have simple basics
And actually build more complex systems from there and personalize them
barren shale
Sometimes time is more valuable than performance
Sometimes you dont care about speed or clean code because sometimes its more worth it to rewrite your apps than expand them
Ill send you a video of someone talking about this when im back home
next lotus
What's the point of overcomplicating the basics of a language
readability and time to write it, i dont wanna write and scroll down thousands of lines of code just for a simple task
orchid frigate
readability and time to write it, i dont wanna write and scroll down thousands o...
Oop doesn't shorten lines
It expands lines
Because suddenly what you could do in a single rust structure is a done in a class that has some random type that is somehow different from it's other types when it only has one minor change
And it's only readable when you already know oop which wtf is even the point of it then
heavy stratus
Hello, ask Maxim to optimize the game. The last update just killed it, not only that culture experience is accrued regardless of whether the game is paused or not, the device itself (in my case, the phone) heats up so much in 10-15 minutes, which then leads to its breakdown. about half an hour of play and the phone needs to be taken in for repair, due to the fact that overheating leads to the fact that the phone constantly thinks that the phone is very hot and does not want to charge.
static solar
Hello, ask Maxim to optimize the game. The last update just killed it, not only ...
You are in the wrong place for that, we don't talk about WB here
next lotus
Oop doesn't shorten lines
wdym it does
you have inheritance and reuse the same code many times
fading obsidian
Who doesn't reuse lines of code
barren shale
well see the difference is you've been programming for 2 years
and both theo and theprimeagen have been programming for over a decade
so if you dont trust them then yeah idk what to tell you
go makek your 5 requests per minute api in rust
next lotus
oh lmao nodejs moment, 5 request per minute api endpoint 💀
mossy cedar
the lack of moderation within clyde bot is just astonishing
it can say someof the most unhinged shit imaginable thay would otherwise be blocked by chatgpt
quartz pumice
it can say someof the most unhinged shit imaginable thay would otherwise be bloc...
Yeah it's really fun to use because of that
Without the blocker shit it's very very smart
Probably modeled your entire personality after seeing a sentence you said
And then you trick it and it becomes dumb
slim dirge
Anyone who uses Linux, can they help me partition So I can download windows 10
orchid frigate
Anyone who uses Linux, can they help me partition So I can download windows 10
I can
Basically put all the Linux memory to root
And put very little memory to home
slim dirge
Do I need to use terminal for this?
orchid frigate
Generally yes but matters which distro
Also do you know how to use a Linux terminal in general
slim dirge
no
orchid frigate
Because if you don't then I advise you to learn the basics before installing because sometimes things go wrong and you need to know what to do
slim dirge
i used an entire youtube tutorial to install windows onto a usb
orchid frigate
Oh
slim dirge
i want to game
orchid frigate
slim dirge
most games dont run on ubuntu for some reason
i wanna play cycle frontier and shit with my friends
orchid frigate
Ok so you want Ubuntu with windows on one system
slim dirge
just windows but if not possible im fine with dual boot
orchid frigate
What
slim dirge
i only got ubuntu because i fucked up my first hard drive
orchid frigate
So you don't want linux
orchid frigate
Then don't install linux
orchid frigate
How do you make this mistake 😭
slim dirge
because
orchid frigate
Ok so just
slim dirge
i have gparted and shit
orchid frigate
Insert USB with windows
slim dirge
already in
slim dirge
the instructions say theres no partition i can use at all
orchid frigate
Just install on the entire disk
slim dirge
none of them work
orchid frigate
Don't manually partition
You don't need to
Just install on the entire disk
It will wipe it out thi
Tho*
Also you can't really fuck this process up
slim dirge
i choose advanced option or no
orchid frigate
The worst thing that can happen is to corrupt the installation in which case you just restart
orchid frigate
i choose advanced option or no
No just wipe the disk or whatever it says on the new installations
It should have that option
orchid frigate
Oh so 11
slim dirge
maybe trying to install windows 10 was the problem
slim dirge
mk ill try it now and see what happens
slim dirge
?
slim dirge
no valuable info no
orchid frigate
No Linux yet
slim dirge
when i was it kept saying no partition worked
i had to download windows installation from ubuntu and now i could but
orchid frigate
Hold up gimme 1 minute
orchid frigate
Ok so do you get to a screen
Where you see all partitions
On your hard drive
Including unallocated memory
Btw do you have any unallocated memory
slim dirge
Yes but it's less than gigabytes I'm pretty sure
orchid frigate
Or a similar screen
Doesn't matter
Can you show me all your partitions with the Ubuntu terminal
Actually don't i don't care about them
slim dirge
Sure
orchid frigate
So you are ok with wiping all your hard drive data
slim dirge
Yes
orchid frigate
Ok
slim dirge
All important shit is on onedrive
orchid frigate
Do you have a secondary computer in case you need to install the installation media again
slim dirge
My sister's yes
orchid frigate
Ok
slim dirge
Or my brothers 2008 pc
orchid frigate
So when you get to this sceeen
Delete all partitions that aren't unallocated
Because you.dont need them anymore
This will wipe all data on them including linux
slim dirge
Bet
orchid frigate
Select the unallocated memory
And install windows on it
If you want you could cut it in half
In two partitions
So a C: and D:
But that doesn't matter you can do it any time anyway
slim dirge
Yea
orchid frigate
That's what you gotta do
But after deleting partitions there is no going back to Linux so be careful
slim dirge
No matter what?
orchid frigate
You will have to reinstall it
slim dirge
K
orchid frigate
The hard drive is fine it will just be empty
slim dirge
Do I use custom install windows only
orchid frigate
I have done this process a couple of times btw I even have dual boot rn
orchid frigate
Do I use custom install windows only
What
orchid frigate
What works
orchid frigate
Wait so you are doing it right now
orchid frigate
Ok nice
slim dirge
I didn't delete because I was afraid I'd damage or corrupt something
Thanks
Now I know for next time I'm in this situation
orchid frigate
Nah when partitioning the only thing you can lose is data
slim dirge
Just gotta figure out where I can buy a windows 10 pro license
orchid frigate
I mean do you really need it
orchid frigate
So you are gonna buy a 120$ license or however expensive they are
For cosmetics
Wait how does it even look the license doesn't do shit
quartz pumice
#include <efi/efi.h>
#include <efi/efilib.h>
EFI_STATUS EFIAPI efi_main (EFI_HANDLE ImageHandle, EFI_SYSTEM_TABLE *SystemTable) {
InitializeLib(ImageHandle, SystemTable);
Print(L"Hi");
UINTN mapSize = 0;
EFI_MEMORY_DESCRIPTOR* memoryMap = NULL;
UINTN mapKey;
UINTN descriptorSize;
UINT32 descriptorVersion;
EFI_STATUS status = SystemTable->BootServices->GetMemoryMap(&mapSize, memoryMap, &mapKey, &descriptorSize, &descriptorVersion);
if (status != EFI_BUFFER_TOO_SMALL) {
Print(L"uefi start, memory map %r\n", status);
return status;
}
Print(L"test");
while (1) {}
return EFI_SUCCESS;
}``` "test" doesnt print 😭like it gets to SystemTable->BootServices->GetMemoryMap and doesnt want to keep going anymore
whats the point of having error detection and all that if theres an error it completely freezes
quartz pumice
Just gotta figure out where I can buy a windows 10 pro license
that shit is the most useless shit ever
you get nothing for 120$
it is not worth it at all bruh
I have 2 friends that got it and they dont even want to use their computer anymore since they haved to pay for pro
just get windows home
your losing nothing
getting pro doesnt even sound "pro" like it jsut fucking makes you look dumb
mossy cedar
Just gotta figure out where I can buy a windows 10 pro license
I once saw a post of someone manipulating chatgpt into generating windows keys though I'm not sure if its legit lmao
slim dirge
you get nothing for 120$
you can buy licenses online for 20 bucks
orchid frigate
That's why I stopped using usfi
Sometimes
It just doesn't work
Straight up freezes
No explanation
wicked spindle
I once saw a post of someone manipulating chatgpt into generating windows keys t...
It’s enderman, their video got deleted
bold gazelle
Ooooh disgusted it stinks in here
quartz pumice
Ooooh *disgusted* it stinks in here
it doesnt
you have a skill issue
You need a new JS Framework with algorithmic asynchronous smell management
next lotus
i believe that's called sharding
orchid frigate
Ooooh *disgusted* it stinks in here
Yea go get a shower
orchid frigate
What was it
orchid frigate
2
civic finch
I see python is the best
orchid frigate
You didn't take my answer into consideration
civic finch
for road start in the PROGRAMMING
orchid frigate
2
It's like boot camp
Really tough but gets you well built
But for like 2 months
You will have no idea wtf you are doing
civic finch
I prefer C tho c++ oop sucks ass
orchid frigate
I don't know what that emoji means
civic finch
why are ask suck ass
orchid frigate
What
civic finch
sorry for bad english
orchid frigate
C++ sucks because it makes C into something it isn't
A modern object oriented language
C is simpler
Less basics so you can build the language on your own
civic finch
thanks for information
orchid frigate
The only thing c++ has over c is better support and structs that aren't annoying to declare
civic finch
I think c is not the best because he's old virseon
orchid frigate
If newest was best python wouldn't be popular
Trust me I have used them both alot
C is better
civic finch
yeah python is not popular but python is easy to learner
orchid frigate
You misunderstood
civic finch
what I can doing by c
orchid frigate
Not alot of modern stuff but
Basically anything if you are willing to write in a lower level
Graphics non os programs
Games if you are insane enough
civic finch
Trust me I have used them both alot
ok I will learning c
how many time take learner c language
orchid frigate
Do you wanna make games
civic finch
Do you wanna make games
Yeah
orchid frigate
Then learn c#
With unity
It will take you like 1-2 months to learn the basics if you do it every day
Or relatively every day
civic finch
I want make games
civic finch
It will take you like 1-2 months to learn the basics if you do it every day
wow thanks for all this information
I will learn the c language
hardy field
C++ sucks because it makes C into something it isn't
I mean, it's got to have some uses at least, right?
orchid frigate
I mean, it's got to have *some* uses at least, right?
It's the exact same as C it literally has the same syntax and the same uses and the same compiler
It's just more modern but in a bad way
hardy field
Most of what I've heard is that C++ is more likely to be used in professional environments
I should probably do some research on it on my own though
orchid frigate
It's because that's the trend
C is old so it must be bad
And c++ is oop so it must be good
But in reality nowadays if you need something that c++ can do companies choose it's successor rust
Rust is superior to both in pretty much every aspect
Even the Linux kernel is currently being rewritten in rust
But it will take a while because it's absolutely huge
knotty root
How to get better at learning OOP?
quartz pumice
most of windows is getting rewritten for rust too
all we need is now is ibm 1401 rust compiler
orchid frigate
all we need is now is ibm 1401 rust compiler
In a perfect world everything is in rust
But our world.is not perfect😞
Damn this emoji looks goofy discord
quartz pumice
Damn this emoji looks goofy discord
Lol
with how much your glowing up rust I gotta try it again now
I dont have the space
for visual studio
I would delete more files but theres no more files to delete
installers installers installers installers
to build rust I need rust, to get rust I need to build rust
@orchid frigate helppp
I cant install rustup
and the "binarys" is a fucking installer
and its a shitty installer too
cant choose where to install
orchid frigate
I dont have the space
How.
Don't tell me you did like me and accidentally put a shit ton of memory to /home only to realize that that folder is fucking useless
orchid frigate
I cant install rustup
The entire process takes like 5 clicks how are you struggling
Are you downloading via a package manager or manually
quartz pumice
Don't tell me you did like me and accidentally put a shit ton of memory to /home...
this isnt linux its windows
also why would you make a paritition specifically for home
quartz pumice
The entire process takes like 5 clicks how are you struggling
manually but I dont have the space for vscode
I installed rust in the end though
orchid frigate
Because I made the mistake to have someone install Linux for me back when I first started using it
quartz pumice
Because I made the mistake to have someone install Linux for me back when I firs...
💀
orchid frigate
Dw I reinstalled Linux like 15 times since then I learned my lesson
quartz pumice
thank god
orchid frigate
The idiot at the computer shop though home was the important folder of linux💀
orchid frigate
I just put everything in the user folder and hope for the best
orchid frigate
What happened to rust
Btw rust and vscode suck
I mean they are a really good combo
But the dependencies are slow af
quartz pumice
vscode doesnt manage dependencies wdym
orchid frigate
It takes like 10 minutes for the rust dependcy to boot up
I mean for like autocorrect
quartz pumice
yeah it allways errored on me when some dumbass plugin installed it for me
it doesnt even check if rust is installed or not
orchid frigate
It checks if there is a rust project in the workspace
That alone takes it a full moon
And then it loads up each fucking crate on its own in the background
Which takes 10 minutes
quartz pumice
bruhh
orchid frigate
In the mean time you can't do shit cuz you don't have autocorrect or error correcction
Or
Nothing
Error highlight
I meant
orchid frigate
Nah for rust it's rust analyser and it's good when it works
Really fucking good
It's helpful as fuck
But not fun to boot
Especially if you are using a game engine crate or something of huge size
quartz pumice
oof
orchid frigate
Oh also in rust you can just have an entire game engine as a crate
quartz pumice
sounds fun
orchid frigate
Which is pretty cool I currently use one and it's not very fun to use but
quartz pumice
which one?
quartz pumice
im in a server with a ton of rustaceans and they talked about that alot
orchid frigate
It's also kinda weird to write in
It has na ECS structure of coding or whatever
Which sucks ass
i fucking hate it
But I'm.forced to use it
quartz pumice
I hate when you haved to use something you dont like
fucking just never use a library ever again level
orchid frigate
Most normal looking ECS function
quartz pumice
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
orchid frigate
It's bad but it gets worse
Because if a system requires more components like ten
A single iteration would have to include every fucking one
So imagine the for function and if it used multiple stacked for functions
It's not a good time
That's why I hate it but I'm also weirdly addicted to it
quartz pumice
That's why I hate it but I'm also weirdly addicted to it
most sane rustacean
orchid frigate
I have said it before rust is an addiction or like a cult
Önce you join it
You give your life to it
quartz pumice
ok
orchid frigate
And it makes you write weird syntax all your life
orchid frigate
I used to dream about that too
Until I saw how boring and complex graphics is
And how drawing a triangle with vulkan too like 600-1000 lines
quartz pumice
And how drawing a triangle with vulkan too like 600-1000 lines
yeah
and thats a fucking static triangle
imagine implementing a function to make a triangle out of thin air from just a few coordinates
quartz pumice
I remember quitting Rust purely because of the error checking
quartz pumice
@orchid frigate rust is using my mingw ld instead of its own
lmao
so thats why rustup wanted me to install vs.. for gnu.. thats the most pointless shit ive ever seen in my life
oh wow and I need rustup to get this specific library
quartz pumice
💀
harsh vine
Bhh
quartz pumice
What happened to rust
it needs gcc_eh
and I got mad at it a year ago because of error checking
it also allways took a ridiculous ammount of time for me to make simple things
and the optimizer would optimize out code randomly
like I would have 4 loops to iterate and do some math over a four dimensional array and it would optimize out the last loop and never do the math
and that was with the cargo run I cant imagine how much it would optimize out for release
zig's error thing is also fucked up but its actually tolerable
barren shale
function cannot return an error
quartz pumice
function cannot return an error <:xzibit:535205877108572189>
I figured out how to make it go away
on error, trigger an error
stdo.write(bytes) catch unreachable;
unreachable creates error
no way
C ```c
#include <stdio.h>
#include <stdlib.h>
int main() {
char *b = malloc(12);
scanf("%s",b);
printf("%s",b);
}vs Zigconst std = @import("std");
pub fn main() !void {
const stdo = std.io.getStdOut();
const stdi = std.io.getStdIn();
var arena = std.heap.ArenaAllocator.init(std.heap.page_allocator);
defer arena.deinit();
const mem = arena.allocator();
var s:usize = 0;
var bytes:[]u8 = std.mem.Allocator.alloc(mem, u8, 12) catch unreachable;
s = stdi.read(bytes) catch unreachable;
s = stdo.write(bytes) catch unreachable;
return;
}```
why is it so overly complicated in zig
barren shale
maybe you are not doing it the right way
is this docs?
i dont see why you need the std input
oh you are reading yeah
maybe because C has written functions that do the same work
from what i've heard zig is very barebones but very enjoyable to program in
quartz pumice
Zig looks fun to make a kernel in
it natively supports uefi
just found that out
and theres no need to build cross compiler
quartz pumice
all targets... theres alot
barren shale
all targets... theres alot
bruh targets my smart carpet
quartz pumice
yes
quartz pumice
Zig looks fun to make a kernel in
theres also alot of stuff included in the actual language that a kernel would have
it has scheduling watchamacallit
orchid frigate
Scheduling what
İn the German language is that word
The os dev has a zig bare bones
Well now İ gotta learn this language asap
You can make a builder in it without using makefiles?!?!
İt may rival rust ngl
İt looks fucking awful to write in
Ngl
quartz pumice
İt looks fucking awful to write in
its like C
It feels like C but has the complexity of C++ and performs like Rust
quartz pumice
Scheduling what
tasks https://ziglang.org/documentation/0.10.1/#Async-Functions you can have zig do threading for you in the kernel
quartz pumice
İn the German language is that word
watchamacallit - watcha ma call it - what do you call it
it also has pageframe allocation too but thats part of std so idk if it would work with legacy booting or even as a uefi app
quartz pumice
tasks https://ziglang.org/documentation/0.10.1/#Async-Functions you can have zig...
😭
wet girder
Buyind laptops is hard. I'd buy a framework for the customisibality but they don't ship to finland yet and probably wont shit here for some years
These specs for so only 1200€ is a fucking steal
no other company allows me to have a lower power cpu, 32gb of ram and 1tb of storage
and the best part would be that if I ever wanted more ram I can just buy a second stick and put it in
64gb so easily
wet girder
today I learned that this face |= is actually a single pipe equal in C# and has actual purpose
barren shale
today I learned that this face |= is actually a single pipe equal in C# and has ...
well x |= y is basically x = x | y you can also do &=
bitwise operation can be used to optimize stuff to the limit
barren shale
never used it before
orchid frigate
😭
The whole language feels unfinished
Like it's good and there are some things that are nice
And I like the c feel but it feels empty like idk maybe I'm just not used to this style of coding
barren shale
man just use c# on everything
dont use C# on everything
i wouldnt use blazor
not ready
nextjs is too hot too
with typescript ofc not javascript
barren shale
wasm is just not ready
orchid frigate
man just use c# on everything
Aight lemme just make my kernel in c# brb
Funny thing is the os dev wiki actually has a bare bones on c#
Also I gave up on zig it's cool but
Noone uses it
So learning it is a nightmare
The docs arent all that helpful either
Kinda a shame tbh I was starting to like the language
quartz pumice
So learning it is a nightmare
Fr
quartz pumice
zig's docs are one the of the best
They aren't
Alot of the actually useful stuff is hidden in small text and a lot of it isn't even explained at all
It also encourages bad practices
barren shale
How would you know its a bad practice
If the makers of the language are telling you this is how to do things
quartz pumice
If the makers of the language are telling you this is how to do things
look at memory allocator docs
its also very new like Dakata said, so I dont think even the creators know what the best practices are
SHIT WRONG CHANNEL
lmao
orchid frigate
Everything is hidden in small text
And it's explained well but
It's a nightmare if you just want to quickly look at something
Also the std docs are like hidden or smt
I can't find rhem
And because noone uses it I can't use my approach of learning while coding because I have no fucking resources
The reddit is for some reason private
quartz pumice
Also the std docs are like hidden or smt
Go to downloads and click on it
quartz pumice
The reddit is for some reason private
There's like 1k subbredits that never came back after the blackout
calm sluice
is there any way to change the zombie infection to not kill units like it used to in older versions?
next lotus
Aight lemme just make my kernel in c# brb
i mean
just make your own c# compiler
then it will work :)
wet girder
There's like 1k subbredits that never came back after the blackout
r/Suomi is in read-only mode. Only reason why I don't use reddit almost at all
orchid frigate
just make your own c# compiler
There is already a compiler
But no low level Deb actually takes c# seriously
barren shale
you can only target so much
and C# is one of the most diverse languages
os development is just isnt popular at all for C# to even consider it
orchid frigate
Yes it's not made for it
It's not even a compiled language
And low level stuff is kinda difficult to do in it
I doubt it even has ffi
It wouldn't make sense to have it tbh considering it's not compiled
barren shale
its going to be compiled soon
they are moving from jit compilation to aot compilation
which means you dont need to install .net to run C# apps
you can already do aot compilation but file sizes are huge and its limited
having both jit and aot is a huge advantage though for optimizing your app
jit allows for way better profiling
also allows for better dx since you can do a lot of tricks that cant be done with aot
next lotus
linq
holy
reflection
imagine the capabilities
c# reflection is the best in the world
maybe even in the galaxy
c# reflection in aot?!?!?!?!??!?!?!?!??!??????
barren shale
reflection in aot is probably gonna be impossible
but they are making some new things that can be used instead of reflection and work with aot
i mean you can already avoid using reflection almost always but reflection can make your code look so yummy man 😔
wet girder
Guys I need your opinions. I'm deciding between 2 laptops rn both are exactly 2k€
Choice number one is Lenovo Yoga Slim 7 Pro X i5-12/16/512 14,5"
It has i5-12500H, 16gb of ddr5 ram 512gb ssd, 19:10 120hz 3K monitor so absolutely stunning monitor and great build quality
https://www.gigantti.fi/product/tietokoneet-ja-toimistotarvikkeet/tietokoneet/kannettavat-tietokoneet/lenovo-yoga-slim-7-pro-x-i5-1216512-145-kannettava/455564
Choice number 2 is Acer Aspire 5 i7-12/32/1024 15,6"
It has i7-1260h, 32gb of ddr4 ram, 1tb ssd, crappy 15,6" 1080p monitor with inferior build quality and speakers
https://www.gigantti.fi/product/tietokoneet-ja-toimistotarvikkeet/tietokoneet/kannettavat-tietokoneet/acer-aspire-5-i7-12321024-156-kannettava/616161
It's a hard choice because the first one would look cool, have absolutely banger keyboard for sure and have nice monitor and speakers
but the second choice just has more performance for the same money
and not like a little bit more
the cpu is about 20% better, double the ram and double the ssd space
only problem with the ram is that it's slower but shouldn't matter for my purposes
the lenovo one also has way better battery life
scenic geyser
the lenovo one also has way better battery life
I got a Acer Aspire 7 laptop with all the same specs except it has just 8gb rams
It has a very bad build quality and it's hinges are all loose and I feel really anxious moving it around as it wobbles
After 1.5 years of use, It's a bit choppy and I'm considering expanding the RAM
The battery is 💀, you always need it to be plugged on to the charger and it's won't run for more than 1 hour without the charger
wet girder
kinda what I expected lol
the price was too good
lol
thanks for the info
I think I am gonna get the lenovo for now and upgrade to a framework when those start shipping to Finland
quartz pumice
Choice number one is Lenovo Yoga Slim 7 Pro X i5-12/16/512 14,5"
It has i5-12500...
I would lenovo because they have a reputation of lasting longer in literally every aspect
i5 and 16gb could also run VR and no problem with any games
512gb is tiny though I dont think it could fit anything on there
barren shale
the lenovo one also has way better battery life
better battery life or bigger battery?
that lenovo for only 999 sounds like a fucking deal man
wet girder
Yeah that's why I'm so tempted by it
wet girder
better battery life or bigger battery?
Uhhh both?
barren shale
could be a bigger battery but not better battery life because more pixels on the screen
but its i5 vs i7
do you think you need that much performance?
wet girder
Not really
wet girder
Yep
barren shale
if its just for work then yeah the lenovo
it has less ram and smaller ssd but you wont really have big files if you are just using github
you can just delete whatever projects you dont need
and more pixels will make it nicer on the eyes and less straining
wet girder
I wanna code, maybe have a kali vm to train cyber security because it's cool
barren shale
also probably has better brightness for outdoor use
barren shale
the acer probably has a matt screen
the lenovo one will have a glossy one
more clear but also reflective but i think its the cooler option
lenovo laptop monitors are god tier
sly schooner
Ello
Been a while since the last update
So here we go:
Early ver for reference:
barren shale
is that two sprites on top of each other
one for ground and one for grass
or is it one sprite that contains both the ground and the grass blade thingies
sly schooner
Two sprites
One for the ground, another for the slot
The slot could be a resource (Trees, flowers and etc) or some building
sly schooner
And how would I merge two sprites?
barren shale
just make them one sprite
sly schooner
That's a little difficult
barren shale
put the grass on top of the ground and make it a single sprite and start using that
barren shale
That's a little difficult
it is the harder way but it shouldnt be that difficult
just keep the origin point where it should be in the middle of the ground in the sprite
and you need to change the logic of your code but that's about it
but that's like at least 70% less sprites
also please tell me you started using a sprite pool 💀
sly schooner
That would mean that I'll have to create every variation possible which is a tedious and time consuming process in addition to changing the flexible system
sly schooner
By sprite pool you mean the possible sprites for the randomisation or just hiding the sprites?
barren shale
i mean taking sprites that are out of the screen and reusing them
instead of making new ones
if you dont use a sprite pool you would need like an rtx 4090 to run your 2d game man 💀
or actually its not even about the gpu its just very cpu intensive
sly schooner
And yet it runs on my gtx 1060 i5 8400
barren shale
creating new objects is very very expensive in unity
