⌨coders-cave

[orchid frigate]

Idc if the team didn't allow it if I was on the project im doing the optimization myself

I swear Im going insane with these 7 seconds

[barren shale]

3 minutes to compile an api

needs some optimization when compiling

and also it depends where you compile it

you cant do that

this is not java

i think

cuz they talk about C# a lot so i think its C#

imagine after waiting for 3 minutes you realise that you typed x += 4; instead of x += 3

💀

[orchid frigate]

You can in C

And rust

Technically

If you use the compiler which noone does

[orchid frigate]

At that point im just assuming it works

[old mural]

Lua is underrated

[distant wraith]

Finally, the fastest way to generate a list of random shit

from random import sample as A;from string import ascii_letters as B,digits as C;print([*(''.join(A(B+C,k=62))for D in range(10))])

[next lotus]

stay that way

[old mural]

No

[wet girder]

wtf do you even code with lua?

[next lotus]

roblox mods

[old mural]

Do u know roblox

[next lotus]

yep thats the only use for that language

also cheat engine

its only for embedding

nothing else

[wet girder]

https://tenor.com/view/oh-for-the-love-of-god-tonyactsout-upset-angry-for-gods-sake-gif-22158933

Do we need another jupe rant about roblox

[old mural]

It's good

[wet girder]

When I get on my pc it's time for jupe rant

[old mural]

Why hate lua

[wet girder]

Titled: "Why you shouldn't support Roblox"

[next lotus]

imagine being so bad sending the actual usage of that language counts as insult

[old mural]

How ez is to write a table in c or python or java

[next lotus]

what table

2d array?

[old mural]

A table of fruits

Let's say

A table of couple of strings

[next lotus]

so a 2d array?

[old mural]

Yea

[wet girder]

That's just one dimensional array

not even 2d

[old mural]

Yea

[next lotus]

string[][] peen = new string[][] {
  {"minecraft", "420"}
};
``` like that?

wait no its

[old mural]

Yea

What

In lua

[next lotus]

string[,] peen =  {
  {"minecraft", "420"}
};```

its this actually

[wet girder]

In C it's literally just

char stringArr[][] = ["Fuck", "Lua"]

I think

[next lotus]

wait no its

[old mural]

local peen = {"minecraft", "420"}

[old mural]

This is lua

[wet girder]

Why tf the curly brackets

[old mural]

Why not

[next lotus]

thats not even a 2d array thats just an array

[wet girder]

those are for the prestigious dictionaries

[next lotus]

in c# its

[old mural]

I asked array only

[next lotus]

var h = new[] { "peni", "minbecraft" };

[old mural]

See

So much code

[wet girder]

In c to create one dimensional array of strings you need to create 2 dimensional char array because c doesn't have strings, instead it has char arrays

[next lotus]

also in python its just csharp cbt = ["big", "balls"]

[next lotus]

wdym so much

[old mural]

Some people are lazy

[wet girder]

Have you ever looked at a function or a loop in lua

they're atrocious

[old mural]

Yea

   return x + y
end

print(add(5,2))```

For loops

      print(v)
end```

[next lotus]

int add(int[] vals) => vals.Sum();
``` in csharp and thats an entire array lol

[wet girder]

it's so much better in even like C

int add(int x, int y) {
    return x + y;
}

printf("%d", add(1, 2));

[next lotus]

wtf table is not even an array its a dict then

[wet girder]

lua doesn't have arrays???

[old mural]

Replace pairs with ipairs

[next lotus]

for(int i in array) { }
``` to iterate array

[old mural]

Lua also has coroutines

[next lotus]

LMFAO

duide pls

[wet girder]

or foreach

[next lotus]

pls no

[old mural]

But i don't how to code coroutines

[orchid frigate]

Guys you are forgetting about the superior to all languages

[next lotus]

are you really gonna compete against the creator of async/await?

[orchid frigate]

Rust

[old mural]

Hmm

Idk about foreach

[next lotus]

we need replit bot here

[wet girder]

what's that?

[old mural]

Roblox lua has WaitforChild(child)

[next lotus]

bot to run codes

[next lotus]

await task;

also it can return

[orchid frigate]

I have been hearing about children in higher level programming languages and

Why are we having children

This seems like a huge responsibility

[old mural]

Waht

[wet girder]

https://top.gg/bot/730885117656039466
hmm maybe this could be cool?

[old mural]

Noice

[next lotus]

//-- Sample Task
async Task<int> Minecraft() {
  await Task.Delay(1 * 1000); // Wait 1 second (1000 millisecond).
  return 420; 
}
//-- Sample Task

async void Main() {
  Console.WriteLine(await Minecraft());
}

i bet your coroutines cant

even return

lol

[orchid frigate]

My C senses see so much wrong with this

[next lotus]

its just your C senses

this is my c# senses telling its beautiful code :))

[old mural]

I think coroutines return values

[orchid frigate]

Why are tou doing 1 * 1000

💀

[next lotus]

why

it makes it more readable

lets say 15 seconds

15 * 1000

[orchid frigate]

Nah people go too far for readability nowadays

We need assembly back on the scene

[old mural]

int second = 1000 i guess

[next lotus]

also we can do this

public bool isSleep() => true;
// the same as
public bool isSleep() {
  return true;
}``` if youre too lazy

[old mural]

So 15 * second

[next lotus]

also we have Linq, its for lazy people too very useful

[old mural]

Anyways bye we had a good debate

[next lotus]

it wasnt debate

when

[orchid frigate]

Wait

Yall are leaving

[next lotus]

someone already lost before it started lol

[orchid frigate]

But I just came

[next lotus]

jesus

[orchid frigate]

Nah nah nah stay here

[next lotus]

i was about to send this

[orchid frigate]

My beautiful name is typing

[barren shale]

await/async is our lord and savior

saved us from the events/callbacks hell

[barren shale]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d76WWAD99Yo

@wet girder @next lotus

kewl video

little unexpected optimization

[orchid frigate]

Imagine that your code is so bad

It broke the fucking compiler

I dont have to imagine because I just broke cargo 💀 💀 💀

[barren shale]

rust diff

[next lotus]

sealed const readonly all of those are useless

just

declare public or private

then dont set :)

[west burrow]

rust loves to error

[distant wraith]

How can I declare variables in C++?

🥺🥺🥺

[cloud solar]

I have a question

Why

[cloud solar]

You cant keep getting away with it

[main brook]

vartype varname = varvalue

[kind hollow]

💀

[distant wraith]

Thanks

[next lotus]

get away with what

[next lotus]

step 1 download c#

[wet girder]

int var = 1;

big pog

[next lotus]

no

bad

dont put data type

use auto thats how chads do it

auto big = 69;

auto gaming = "minecraft pocket edition free donwload no virus apk unlimited diaomonds";

auto roblo = new char[] {'x'};

[distant wraith]

Anyways

How can I use third party libraries in C++? 🥺

[next lotus]

thats broad question

do you mean a dll, a header file or something else

i have better idea

download visual studio and do c# instead

[distant wraith]

We all gotta start somewhere

[barren shale]

clearly didnt watch the video

[orchid frigate]

auto are

Awful

Dont use them

Ever

In c++

[orchid frigate]

Thats not how it works

[distant wraith]

[orchid frigate]

There are two ways to use files in c++

1. Header files

2. Linking libraries with externs aka ffi

You will rarely need to use ffi because header files are simpler

But anyway I came here for a different reason

Everyone that knows ai stuff here

This is a question to you

Yall know geometry dash right

How would one go about creating an ai or bot which completes the level on its own

[knotty root]

yes

[knotty root]

Adaf moment

Anyway I'm actually studying to make my own Minecraft mod

[main brook]

not possible haydot

[orchid frigate]

:((( I hate ai it sucks it cant do shit

[main brook]

it'll get confused on the amount of blocks a level these days had

plus

you can do some client side change on the level and it would work in game and in server

not relevant but you can put more than 30k objects

[orchid frigate]

I could bot levels but that takes like

Hours if the level is hard

Damn ai not advanced enough

Smh

How will ai terrorise the world if it can't beat fingerdash on its own

Anyway @main brook I was gonna ask you

So

I fucked up my partition sizes again with arch

I gave way too little space to home and dont have space for shit

I can resize both root and home it I unmount them right

[next lotus]

give a good reason why

isnt it redundant to int[] gaming = new int[] {12, 69};

[next lotus]

wtf

how do you know me

im adaf btw lmao

[next lotus]

too late i already made one lol i monopolize gd mods

[main brook]

haha funny

[next lotus]

whats funny

[orchid frigate]

In c++

[main brook]

is it using gpt partition table

also haydot

[orchid frigate]

Its better to know what data types you are using

Concrete

[main brook]

just create a single partition for root and home

[orchid frigate]

Especially with bits

[main brook]

if you keep fuckin up

[orchid frigate]

Uints

[next lotus]

ide will tell it anyways

[main brook]

ext4 on /

and just do that

[next lotus]

look at that

[orchid frigate]

Wait wait guys

I cant keep up with the both of you

One at a time

Ok so I think im gpt

But like if I resize

I wont lose my shit right because

That means I will just reinstall

[orchid frigate]

No

You always gotta know

What int you are using

Is it unsigned

What bits

Otherwise it will just default to int32 I think

[next lotus]

oh then

69L for long, 69f for float

[barren shale]

of course its possible

[orchid frigate]

Wait

[barren shale]

its a game about precision

[orchid frigate]

@next lotus you said you did it

[barren shale]

ai's favorite type of games

[orchid frigate]

The ai

No way

[next lotus]

yes i did

[main brook]

right

[next lotus]

well....

[orchid frigate]

NO WAY

[next lotus]

not really ai

[orchid frigate]

I need details

[next lotus]

wait look

[orchid frigate]

Can it beat levels like ballistic wistfully

[next lotus]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P-LrvQsA9eU&ab_channel=Alizer

this is the

very old

[orchid frigate]

Ah you mean this

[next lotus]

basically you just have to hover the mouse over the game

ok do you need an actual ai

there is one

[orchid frigate]

No no no I mean like it actually beats it without you having to record the macro

[next lotus]

there is one

[orchid frigate]

I have used zbot and another tool

[next lotus]

but its more of a bruteforce ai it just does random clicks and records the farthest position

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DLBA5aEdWTI

here it is

[orchid frigate]

Thats gonna take a while

[next lotus]

its kinda machine learning too in a sense

but very slow af

[barren shale]

just tell openai to make a deep q learning ai that can play this game

they made an ai that can play dota 2

so this should be a breeze

[next lotus]

i actually had an idea to make a bruteforce bot that does it at millions per try per second

[orchid frigate]

Imagine you tell it to play ballistic wistfully

10000 years+

[orchid frigate]

Goddamnit if I just knew Ai

[barren shale]

the game is complicated enough

to the point that even if you know ai

[next lotus]

you dont need ai

for gd

[barren shale]

you need a really good machine to train it fast enough

[next lotus]

you just have to calculate the physics and brutefroce a macro

[barren shale]

bruteforce takes too much time

[orchid frigate]

But bruteforcing will take forever

[barren shale]

AI will be able to solve levels it never saw

[next lotus]

like for ex. when a player jump does it have a spike along the way? etc. etc.

[barren shale]

if it has enough experience

[orchid frigate]

I have been thinking if it can see the hitboxes

[next lotus]

there is a big problem for that

[orchid frigate]

Cant it lile

Easely avoid them

[next lotus]

what if a level is full of long fake routes that makes the player die at the end

bruteforce is faster

[barren shale]

yeah

but that's not typical

and you just need a ltsm ai

so it can remember

that the route is fake

ofc this will take years to train

unless ur elon musk

[next lotus]

how is it faster then bruteforcing then lol

[barren shale]

because after you train it

it can solve any level

also its way more interesting

[next lotus]

yeah ngl its way more intersting

[orchid frigate]

What about the hitbox idea

If it can see the hitboxes wont it be easier

[next lotus]

check this guy

he is

one of my biggest competitor

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eG8ezKfmHxc&t=58s&ab_channel=Absolute

april fools video

but like this is what gd ai will look like

[barren shale]

oh

it looks like a pather

[next lotus]

this is what im talking about

bruteforce method

[barren shale]

just some rules and some pathing

[next lotus]

yes

imagine something like

[barren shale]

bruteforcing on the way

[next lotus]

900 threads doing this

[barren shale]

oh

[next lotus]

like 900 players on the same level doing this

[orchid frigate]

Wait how will you do bruteforcing

Will it click like

Every millisecond

Or smt

Every frame ig

[next lotus]

i think every frame

[orchid frigate]

Tbh

I can see that working

Pretty well

[next lotus]

ai can also work

i mean its good at predicting

and maybe if you feed it the level's objects and their positions

it can uh

[main brook]

haydot

can't arch just install on filesystem like

ext4 /
fat32 /boot/efi

then you'll have very flexible /home and /

[orchid frigate]

Im not sure what you mean

Every mount has a filesystem on its own?

[main brook]

uh yes?

[orchid frigate]

I think so

[main brook]

well fs as in the filesystem

ext4/fat/exFat

[orchid frigate]

But both my /home and /mnt are ext4

[main brook]

what

why are you manually partitioning /mnt

but like

[orchid frigate]

Because

Arch

[main brook]

you can combine /home with /

most linux allows that

so instead of

sda1 /
sda2 /home

just

sda1 /

[orchid frigate]

So /home is inside of /

[main brook]

yes

basically just ignore /home partition

its one with /

[orchid frigate]

Personally I dont see that being a problem

[main brook]

i personally do

because arch is unstable

and constant system changes

that's why some people separate / and /home

[orchid frigate]

Wait wait wait

If I do that

Wont permissions get fucked up

[main brook]

nah its still the same

[orchid frigate]

I feel like my user will get locked out of home

Ah

Good

[main brook]

it probably would

but you'll need a media to transfer the files

[orchid frigate]

I do

[main brook]

nice

well goodluck fucking this up

[orchid frigate]

Im installing manjaro on a usb rn to do the partitioning

Manjaro because

Every other distro is huge

[main brook]

manjaro with kde is

2gb

on iso file alone

but you should do

[orchid frigate]

I need gparted

[main brook]

sda1 fat32 /boot/efi
sda2 ext4 /
sda3 swp

or something

[orchid frigate]

Idk if cfdisk will do the job otherwise

[main brook]

cfdisk works the same

i personally prefer cfdisk

[orchid frigate]

Well graphics is always better

[main brook]

cfdisk have a graphic

terminal ui

[orchid frigate]

Idk gparted feels safer plus I can always just switch it I need to

[orchid frigate]

I think I should do this on a vm first

But im waaay too lazy to set all this up

[main brook]

yes you should

OR YOU KNOW

qemu

[orchid frigate]

This would take hours

[main brook]

no why

just use any small distro

[orchid frigate]

I dont trust qemu for this shit

[main brook]

fair opinion

[orchid frigate]

I have seen how unstable it is

[orchid frigate]

Just the installation will take a millennia

[main brook]

how

H O W

[orchid frigate]

Plus even if I fuck up my current installation

[main brook]

lubuntu takes like 1 hour

for me

and i use a hdd

[orchid frigate]

I installed it like 3 days ago

[orchid frigate]

I have to like install alot of dependencies and maybe even graphics and stuff

Im willing to risk it

[main brook]

o

[orchid frigate]

Also I have never known that kde plasma is so cool

[main brook]

Just use terminal

its just for testing anyway

[orchid frigate]

Arch doesn't feel like an unfinished distro with plasma

Like it does otherwise

[main brook]

ITS FOR TESTING

[orchid frigate]

Idc I like it so I'm keeping it

My computer has only frozen from it like

7 times

Thats a wr for arch

[main brook]

[orchid frigate]

Arch is not fun

But its more fun than the finished diatros

Because you get extra side quests every time something gets fucked up

[main brook]

you really prefer unstable, hard to fix, always screwed, need more maintenance

[orchid frigate]

I tried mint

Ran it for a few months

But I got a major case of being bored of it

Nothing ever happened

I was able to code in peace

[main brook]

it is made for consumer grade

[orchid frigate]

Thats so fucking boring

It felt like a usable os

And fuck that I need side quests

[main brook]

haydot

you like fucked up things

don't you

[orchid frigate]

Yes

I like fixing things

Because

Ngl the code I do is boring af

Im bored out of my mind from oss

Its just data structures

Memory management

Registers

Nothing I can actually see

[main brook]

fix me

[orchid frigate]

Are you an os?

[main brook]

yes

[orchid frigate]

ReiOS

Now with graphics support

Bro why is the only tool that arch has easy access to multiwriter for isos

Burning this is taking forever

Everything in arch is breaking even yay is corrupted af

My cargo broke

Pacman js acting weird

I hate arch now

Character development

BRO MANJARO IS SICK WHAT

How have I never known about this

Alright Im switching idc about arch anymore its lame

[main brook]

average haydot

[orchid frigate]

As soon as I saw the colorful shell

I decided

[main brook]

haydot

you can fucking do that yourself

[orchid frigate]

That's how easy it is to change my mind

[orchid frigate]

I have

But its lame when I do it

[rose pawn]

Is bill gatsw dud still here

[orchid frigate]

When it's like that by default

You know the distro is good

Idc im deleting the current arch partitions rn

[orchid frigate]

Manjaro is the only os im using from now on

Until I dont find a distro with better shell

By default

[main brook]

me

[orchid frigate]

Gparted is giving me the option to resize

It wants me to rething my desisions

[main brook]

yes

because got

gpt

once forever

[orchid frigate]

Nah I'm not switching

I have to rebuild the cross gcc compiler

And thats a process I dont wanna have to do again in my lifetime

[main brook]

eh

[orchid frigate]

Im way too easily influenced by everything

But idc

So new root size

Hmmmm

[main brook]

i would suggest

make efi boot partition

and then swp

and the rest yours

[orchid frigate]

I already have efi and swap

[main brook]

good

just resize your / to take all

[orchid frigate]

Actually I have two swaps

[main brook]

that bif

big

[orchid frigate]

For some reason

[main brook]

juicy

meaty

*bite lips*

[orchid frigate]

The entire point of resizing was to not do that

[main brook]

bytes

[main brook]

what

[orchid frigate]

I had 170 gb to root

[main brook]

i thought you're gonna use / for /home

[orchid frigate]

And 25 to home

[orchid frigate]

Idk how to do that effectively

[main brook]

lose all your user data

[orchid frigate]

What

No

Dont make me rebuild the cross compiler

I still have flashbacks

110gb to root

Rest to home

[main brook]

then just resize

and remember to efs2chk

or something

and to reread your partition

[orchid frigate]

I have no idea what that is

[torpid isle]

Jass > any other coding language

[main brook]

there's a command i forgot

[orchid frigate]

Wait by resizing

[main brook]

ef2check /dev/sdaX

[orchid frigate]

I wont lose anythint

Will I

[main brook]

no

if you shorten

yes

if you lengthen no

[orchid frigate]

Goddamnit

I will shorten root

[main brook]

you just need to check disk file

and see if everything works

if not

you can always revert

[orchid frigate]

Rei what will happen if I shorten root

By 60gb

[fleet sparrow]

The Fun module is disabled in this server.

[main brook]

@orchid frigate what's output of df -h

[torpid isle]

@tawny hedge Don't spam and speak english in here.

[main brook]

@tawny hedge english only please

[torpid isle]

#817762451293470730 can be used to gain access to other channels.

[main brook]

haydot

try df -h

i wanna see

[orchid frigate]

Cowspace

Why do I have a cow farm in my pc smh

I was wondering why am getting frame drops

[main brook]

why is it overlay

are you running on iso file

[orchid frigate]

Yes

I told you im not downloading manjaro

I just use it to partition

[main brook]

what about your original arch

you need to do df -h on there

[orchid frigate]

Do you want lsblk

I dont wanna have to reboot

I think im gonna do this later because I was supposed to go somewhere

2 hours ago

[main brook]

sure

[cloud solar]

With oversymplyfying things

[orchid frigate]

@main brook the colorful keyboard was too good

And the time was very limited

So I just installed manjaro

[main brook]

took you long enough to respond

[orchid frigate]

And erased the shit out arch

Now that I have done that

I can safely go school shopping for everything 2 days before school starts

[main brook]

nice

i just got to school today

and got back home after 2 hours

turns out im not ready for school yet, still sick

[orchid frigate]

Stay home

Enjoy linux

Also im already bored of manjaro

Thinking of changing rn

[orchid frigate]

@next lotus this look real?https://youtu.be/Jq9iYzG-GHU

[amber monolith]

that’s incredible

that you can teach an ai to beat something with so many different outcomes

Like blues can either be good or bad

[main brook]

holy shit

looks legit but

mostly wrong ways

[next lotus]

not sure

looks

fake

wait no

this

this is real

[wet girder]

I've been designing an inventory system in unity with scritableobjects and I sure damn hope my codebase won't be messy. I've used 6 hours a day for 3 days so far just for fucking planning

I made nice architecture documentation and all

Because it was required as it's a school project

[timid field]

Sometimes if i code alot and dont do organizing early on i feel its too late to make proper organizing

This is for me but if i do organize at the beginning it becomes easy

This situation is probably different for some people

[hasty summit]

Is it possible to change character sprites on worldbox? (I'm on mobile btw)

[wet girder]

Not that I know of

modding on phone is next to impossible

It's not fully impossible

but you'll have my respect if you manage to do it

[wet girder]

Anything is possible if you try hard enough

[orchid frigate]

Why would mods not work on mobile anyway

Oh right

Root

And stupid file permissions

I hate how locked phones are

It feels like im using only 10% of my phone's functionality

[sand flame]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noyal-sous-Bazouges

[knotty root]

?

[orchid frigate]

@knotty root you have kernel in your name

Are you an os dev

[craggy nebula]

call the fire department, we just nuked the building

[barren shale]

bro

colonel is pronounced kernel

stupid noob

[errant trail]

so colognel is pronounced like "colonel" (because cologne is "colone")

colonel is pronounced "kernel"
colognel is pronounced "colonel" (because cologne is "colone")

but what is pronounced like "colognel"

if no word is pronounced like "colognel" then the following statement is true:

colognel = (nothing)

but kernel = colonel = colognel

so kernel doesnt actually have a pronunciation

therefore

[errant trail]

@barren shale @orchid frigate you're both stupid noob

[barren shale]

smh

kernel is pronounced kernel

another stupid noob

[errant trail]

where is your proof

🧾

[barren shale]

colognel isnt a word

[barren shale]

"colognel is pronounced "colonel" (because cologne is "colone")"

this is the most

stupid

statement

ive

ever seen

does beard sound like bear with a d?

dont think so

noob

[main brook]

male bear have d

[errant trail]

that is one of the many "special cases" English makes in the resulting effect of English being a mixture of many different and diverse in language groups and culture of peoples that uses it 🤓

[barren shale]

https://tenor.com/view/kermit-kermit-the-frog-i-cant-take-this-shh-no-more-jump-off-suicide-gif-15872103

[hot moat]

You left coding cave and touch some grass therefore kick off lmao

[main brook]

i touch grass everyday

[next lotus]

guys i just

i just realized

++i and i++ is not the same wtf

[main brook]

++i adds it and then return value

i++ returns first and then add

[orchid frigate]

https://c.tenor.com/Mxgk7rxrzq8AAAAM/lithiumare-kiracord.gif

[barren shale]

Lmao

Bro

U that stupid???

[next lotus]

iv been coding for

8 years

and i didnt notice

[barren shale]

8 years and ur still that bad

Smh

[next lotus]

why :(

[untold laurel]

Wtf

Whyy

[barren shale]

bro

imagine being stupid

and asking in a channel

that's compeletly unrelated

to the question

imagine

lmao

[orchid frigate]

Hamza learned the work stupid recently

He is growing so fast

I remember just yesterday he was your moming everyone

🥲

[barren shale]

bro said work instead of word

such stupid

[wet girder]

if the word is blocked you shouldn't really send an image of it

[rose pawn]

Hey bill gates

If u like c sharp so much

Then why dont you marry it

[timid field]

Its too Sharp

He will pop like a balloon if he tries to hug

[next lotus]

i like c#, c# doesnt like me

[main brook]

i pronounce C# as C hashtag

[errant trail]

now C# isnt sharp and @next lotus wont pop

MARRY C#

[old mural]

In worldbox code is there a class for weapons

[barren shale]

maybe

maybe

maybe

ask in #🔧modding-talk

maybe?

[old mural]

Ok

[old mural]

Oh

Yeet

[knotty root]

Hello, I came here a few months ago, but now I am a newcomer.

[next lotus]

fards

[rose pawn]

C# is 22 years old

So its not underage

You might be

[next lotus]

put c# to jail

he tried to marry me

[orchid frigate]

God fucking damnit debian tricked me

I thought it was good

But it sucks

Installing graphics drivers is pain

And the os by itself is mid at best

At this point I have tried so many distros I dont even know what to download next

[tired current]

Hey, fellow coders

I am a newbie when it comes to coding

But I know a little web development

I have a problem though, and I want to know if y'all could help me

How do you save data to your website so that it stays there even if you reload or edit the website?

[amber monolith]

a database

[tired current]

Thx

[knotty root]

@errant trail @barren shale @orchid frigate my username would be pronounced kernel kernel, one being a piece of corn and colonel being a military rank

[orchid frigate]

No os kernel?

Smh

Disappointed

[river axle]

It's pronounced C plus plus plus plus

[celest isle]

Its pronounced C Sharp

[barren shale]

https://tenor.com/view/you-dont-say-nicolas-cage-wow-really-no-kidding-gif-5343842

[rose pawn]

Guys i think its pronounced see sharp

[main brook]

always has been

[plain merlin]

Ні

[orchid frigate]

No you idiots its pronounced

https://c.tenor.com/Mxgk7rxrzq8AAAAM/lithiumare-kiracord.gif

[wet girder]

https://tenor.com/view/nerd-emoji-nerd-emoji-avalon-play-avalon-gif-24241051

[next lotus]

use cookies :)

bascially

u store everything on the user's end

[tired current]

So if they make a purchase on my website, I can use cookies?

[rose pawn]

Hey guys wanna hear a joke that you wont get?

A man says "scan the room"

The other man responds "why would a dürüm do that"

[barren shale]

no

[rose pawn]

That wasn't a question

Also hamza you always respond negatively to me

[next lotus]

yes

[tired current]

Yay

Thx

[barren shale]

?

[tight perch]

sea shanty

[rose pawn]

Damn daniell

Ur pfp is my old pfp

I miss it

[rose pawn]

That was a question

But i wasn't talking about it when i said that wasnt a question 😎😎😎😎😎😎

[barren shale]

so what you're saying

is that you're

stupid

because

[rose pawn]

As you can see, its not replying to you

[barren shale]

the reply was to the question

[rose pawn]

I was just saying a lyric from a song that i dont remember the name of

And you canr prove me wrong

[barren shale]

k bye

[rose pawn]

Bye ham

[orchid frigate]

Wait if the purchase info is saved on the user's pc

Cant you easily bypass purchases

[barren shale]

no

you'd store a token

which needs to validated

its not just true or false

[orchid frigate]

Yes

But

There is a token check

You have done reverse engineering you know what im talking about

[wet girder]

You could do it safe but it's dumb for whole fleet of other reasons

[amber monolith]

does anyone know if objects in python are pointers to objects or just containers

[tired current]

Wait so cookies would work without a risk of the user bypassing?

The reason I want to use cookies is because I'm not rich enough to have a lot of people log on at once and overload my poor server

[next lotus]

i was

being sarcastic

[tired current]

What?

I'm so confused

Can someone tell me what I should do?

[next lotus]

use database

are you using php

[tired current]

Nope

[next lotus]

what are you using at the backend

[errant trail]

        this.reserve = this.supply * 0.2;
        this.supply = this.production - this.load;
        this.load *= 0;
        if (states[this.s].money < 100000 && this.supply > 0) {
            this.supply /= 2;
            states[this.s].money += this.supply;
        }
        let x = (Math.round(Math.random() * 2) + this.x + 48) % 49;
        let y = (Math.round(Math.random() * 2) + this.y + 48) % 49;

        if ((map[x][y].s != this.s || map[x][y].supply < 1 || map[x][y].supply < map[this.source[0]][this.source[1]].supply) && map[this.source[0]][this.source[1]].s == this.s) {
            x = this.source[0];
            y = this.source[1];
        }
        this.supply += map[x][y].supply * 0.7;
        this.load += this.unit / 10000;
        if (this.supply > 50) this.supply = 50;
        this.supply -= this.unit / 10000 - this.reserve;
        if (this.supply < 0.5) this.unit *= 0.8;
        if (this.supply < 0) this.load -= this.supply;
        map[x][y].load += this.load * 0.95;
        this.source = [x, y];
        if(this.supply < 0) this.supply = 0;
```me when the

oh yeah this code doesnt work

[errant trail]

😭

[next lotus]

please dont tell me this is inside an update function

[hollow bronze]

use comments please I beg

[barren shale]

nah

comments are trash

never use comments

you dont understand

because there's no context

also some bad variable naming

[timid field]

Cool and creepy at the same time

[orchid frigate]

It really got the average roblox dev right 💀

[tidal elbow]

depends the type

if it's an array or an instance, they're pointers

if it's any other primitive type, it's immutable and is cloned

[barren shale]

that's c++

containers are objects that hold more than one object

there are no pointers in python

i mean there are pointers

but they are only used for referencing

you cant use them like you do in c++

[tidal elbow]

My.bad, should have explained that yeah

Theyre 'pointers', modifying them modifies the original variable

Reference vs value based parameters

Why you should never set a list as a default value for a parameter of a function in python

And instead should do if xx is None

[barren shale]

yeah but python does not have value types

everything is a reference type

makes it simpler

[amber monolith]

I mean like if I have an object inside an object saved as smth like

this.object

then if I change a value of that then will it change the object in the object array

That I took it from

That’s what I mean by pointer

[barren shale]

yeah

it will

everything is a reference type

so anything will change everywhere

[runic hare]

👍

[steep fiber]

cell machine

[timid field]

Nice

U r from fullo's server too

[steep fiber]

yes

lxgit

very cool

[timid field]

Very nice

[steep fiber]

👍

[next lotus]

do you guys

hate dealing with pointers?

i have good news for you

🤚 c# ✋

[main brook]

no array

its just object reference

for str, int and its subtypes

they're not referenced

so yes immutable

and technically everything is an object

[orchid frigate]

I literally cannot code without pointers

Pointers are the best thing in programming

All hail pointers

[next lotus]

yes but there are languages that

automaticLly handle that

[tidal elbow]

how about rust's borrow functionality?

[orchid frigate]

The only thing I hate about the language

Other than macros

Or marco syntax

And inline assembly but that's easily replaceable

[tired current]

Hey yall

What extensions should I install in vs code when using HTML, CSS, and JavaScript?

[barren shale]

you just need prettifier

for formating

but you dont really need anything else

[tired current]

So I don't need to install live server?

[barren shale]

if you want to you can

i dont use it personally

[timid field]

console.log("cheese")

[undone apex]

Hoi4 command "its time for operation Moscow" and that's instantly train all divisions

[next lotus]

what is

rust borrowing?

does it automatically free all resources inside a code block when the code block exits?

[orchid frigate]

I dont know what it does because I dont give a shit

Similar to any garbage collection service

But its annoying af sometimes

Its like if I want to write unsafe code

Let me write unsafe code

I know what im doing

[next lotus]

alr then its similar to c# gc it does the same

[orchid frigate]

Actually no

It doesn't use a garbage collector

Google says it uses complex type systems

Rust is weird because it calls itself a systems language and it is pretty low level

Yet it does everything like a high level language

And prioritizes safety

[next lotus]

wait a second i have

question

c++

like if you have

{
  int i = 0;
}
int x = 0;
``` does `i` automatically get freed

once run exits the code block i is in?

or do you have to manually dispose it

[orchid frigate]

I have never done any mm in c/c++ in my life

[orchid frigate]

If we dont count actually creating a memory manager

But dont you only have to free if you actually used up memory

So if you used a pointer

Or malloced some space

[tidal elbow]

Borrow solves the issue of pointers, no?

And pointers are still accessible within unsafe blocks

Just need to be sure what you're doing

[orchid frigate]

Ik but

Still annoying

[orchid frigate]

When did pointers have an issue

If beginner programmers cant solve what a memory address is that doesn't mean we should just erase them leaving them as a secondary feature

[orchid frigate]

At this point I just make every file unsafe

Its annoying to have to put an unsafe block for every tiny use of pointers

[tidal elbow]

Because you shouldnt have to use pointers

Borrows are a perfect replacement and are far safer

Pointers are far from necessary

[tidal elbow]

Since the fact the software industry literally pisses on pointers being an issue lol

Theyre dangerous if youre not careful enough with your code

[barren shale]

rust is very strict that's why it does not need garbage collection

it will not let you write code that requires garbage collection

[tight perch]

hacks roblox

**e~

[orchid frigate]

Then how the hell am I supposed to make a kernel

Or pass a structure so that another function can modify it

Or work with graphics

Or make anything low level

I swear the programming industry pisses on low level stuff as much as possible

Thats why I dont wanna be a part of it and be a hobbyist

[tidal elbow]

mutable borrow

[tidal elbow]

look at bevy and piston2d

graphics is easy

even with opengl

i used rust to run shaders

for a simulation

it's super easy to do low level

[orchid frigate]

I know

You could say im a

Veteran at rust

I know its ins and outs

Have used everything from lazy statics to vulkano

But still

They shouldn't have made the language so safe and strict

[crisp rock]

i created an abomination

[normal flicker]

any beginner backend devs?, no expierience or anything, im just looking for a backend dev for a short project

[orchid frigate]

Im the best here at backend

With my 3 minutes of reading articles and getting bored

[barren shale]

how about a backend developer with 7 years experience in C# and 4 years experience in ASP.NET ?

[normal flicker]

umm well, sure but im just learning frontend

[barren shale]

well if i can do the backend in a couple of hours ill do it

otherwise i dont really have time

[normal flicker]

oh ok

well

its on replit

[barren shale]

what is

[rose pawn]

https://1b-f.s3.amazonaws.com/u/84867-1653860069.gif

[normal flicker]

my website

that

im

[rose pawn]

https://1b-f.s3.amazonaws.com/u/84867-1653860069.gif

[normal flicker]

trying to code

[barren shale]

i do the backend

[orchid frigate]

@barren shale im gaining interest in backend

What do I need to learn

[barren shale]

C#

backend is all about clean code

and good architecture

[orchid frigate]

Yes

I know c#

But

Like

I mean actual knowledge

[orchid frigate]

Wdym by that too

I like architectures

[barren shale]

architecture is just a fancy word for design

[orchid frigate]

Ok yes

But I mean like

[barren shale]

https://github.com/Elfocrash/.NET-Backend-Developer-Roadmap/blob/master/Backend-.NET-Developer-Roadmap-2022.png?raw=true

[orchid frigate]

Theory wise

[barren shale]

you can follow this map

[barren shale]

you can learn that from youtube

watch a couple of 5 hours videos

and that should do

also watching this guy

https://www.youtube.com/c/Elfocrash/videos

like the whole channel

helps