⌨coders-cave

[barren shale]

frying the gpu on some ai

[rose pawn]

Wassuo coders

Wassup hamza

Hmm yes nice ai stuff

[barren shale]

then i get trash

[barren shale]

a couple hours of training and then

[orchid frigate]

Is that supposed to be Chinese symbols or smt

Also my sleeping schedule is

Extra extra fucked

I cant go to sleep until 6 am

And even then I still cant

So im sleeping the day out or not sleeping at all

[barren shale]

digits

stupid

handwritten to be specific

[next lotus]

amoung

[barren shale]

fed it mario sprites

[hoary hound]

That looks like Mario alright

[barren shale]

i only had 47 sprites

so it is gonna take a long time to train

i feel like the resemble something

but i dont know what it is

it doesnt look random

[amber monolith]

Idk if you see it but top one looking kind of sus 😈

[barren shale]

gonna train again on 81 sprites instead

[mossy cedar]

Bottom left looks like a minecraft cat in a mermaid pose, middle right looks like some sort of snake with a turtle shell, 2nd to the right middle looks like magikarp facing frontward and it's left image looks like venusaur with broccoli growing in it's back, bottom right looks like a weird flower. Can't recognise the rest.

[barren shale]

there are turtles so i guess that explains the turtle shells

and i think the flowers looking things are just from the wings of the fly

there's not enough data sadly

not enough mario sprites

smh

[barren shale]

this looks kinda like mario

got the nose and the hat

[next lotus]

oh no

why no colors its gonna

well

output kinda bad on grayscale

more colors = more features

[barren shale]

yeah ik

i changed that

not trained gan belike

🗿

100 epochs gan be like

[next lotus]

how many hours are that

[barren shale]

100 epochs

is like 2 mins

[next lotus]

wtf

thats like a very small dataset

[barren shale]

200 epochs turned from galaxy mario to hot mario

[barren shale]

there are not a lot of mario sprites

barely got 81 sprites

[wet girder]

just use the same sprites over and over again :)

[barren shale]

i mean all the images are mario because most of the sprites are mario

[next lotus]

oh boy i love having 64 images of the same thing

[barren shale]

so if i use the same sprite again and again its gonna generate the same image

[wet girder]

yes, smort

[barren shale]

you need some variance

and then the gan will start generating stuff in the middle

half mario half bowser

and stuff like that

[wet girder]

nah bro, generating completely new marios with ai is for noobs. Generating the same marios that already exist is big brain

[barren shale]

300 epochs be like

ahh yes

small databases

i think its dead

time to restart

[wet girder]

lol

[next lotus]

stylegan3 can barely make good outputs with 50K images imagine below 100 lol

[barren shale]

stylegan3 is not working with 32x32 images

[next lotus]

what no it should work as long as its a multiple of 4

[barren shale]

what im saying is

for small images

with less variance

you dont really need 50k images

[sick wave]

what does this mean

[next lotus]

minecraft pocket edition free download unlimited diamonds cracked no virus legit free latest apk

[orchid frigate]

YOOOO

LESS GOOO

does that mean that when the ai gets trained enough we get epic minecraft pocket edition free download unlimited diamonds cracked no virus legit free latest apk

[next lotus]

yes indeed this is the same ai that took us to mars

[thorn bluff]

Hello

[hollow bronze]

@bold rover got any advice for hamza's mario generator

hamza you probably want more than like the 81 sprites is what I would say, but so has everyone else

[barren shale]

yeah

but

its mario

so where do i find more than 81 sprites

[hollow bronze]

web scraping

[barren shale]

its still gonna be the same sprites

if i use different art styled marios then it wont work

the variant will be too much

data per variant will still be low

[hollow bronze]

well what variations do you want

[barren shale]

i want same art style

[hollow bronze]

then get data thats all same style and same size roughly

[barren shale]

or find something that can do good enough with small data

it will probably be very uncreative

but might still make something interesting

[hollow bronze]

I imagine this goes under the technique of gathering data effectively, but i wouldnt know where to start with that (which is why i ponged kia)

unless there is a really good low data generator kia or someone else knows

[barren shale]

im making the generator

if i find a generator then why would i reinvent the wheel

[hollow bronze]

what

if you found one, then making one would be reinventing

i think thats what your message means but it does not read that way

to get any real variety you would need variety images though, with lots of same art of mario over and over you're just gonna print mario's weird dying child

im not really an expert, but a pixel art model finetuned on a specific set of mario sprites might be better than what you're doing

that said idk how much data you need to give for a finetune to be effective

or if you would even need one if you had a pixel art model that could generate mario anyways

me no expert

[barren shale]

ill include recolored sprites and different direction sprites

maybe that will help

[barren shale]

might also try the downscaling upscaling approach instead of generator and discriminator

[bold rover]

Mmm, I'm not to sure if its a transformer tho

[main brook]

opinions on running all your application with pm2(https://pm2.keymetrics.io/)

[pure void]

How to hack into the USA’s entire nuclear arsenal (asking for my good friend)

[hollow bronze]

https://tenor.com/view/rye-games-rye-rye-games-what-rye-what-rye-huh-gif-25561301

[bold rover]

I mean, if the model is base on a transformer, yeah no clue

[next lotus]

first you open adobe photoshop

[barren shale]

transformers for gans

i dont think ive ever heard of that

[bold rover]

GANs?

I think your dataset is so small it starts collapsing or just overfitting

[barren shale]

yeah i know

maybe some sort of cyclegan

data augmentation helps

[knotty root]

Im a coder

Tottaly

[amber monolith]

im writing a new base for my school nea, and im trying to cut down on for loops since they are significantly slowing down the program. heres some pseudo. thanks ahead of time

for entity_object_pointer in entity_object_array
for target_blit in blits
if (trace_ray(entity_object_pointer.pos,target_blit.pos))
visible.add(target_blit)

[orchid frigate]

are you writing it rn?

[amber monolith]

yeah above lol

[orchid frigate]

I thought you were just gonna copy paste lol

anyway

[amber monolith]

the problem is i have to have hundreds of entities and thousands of blits

[orchid frigate]

what is the language

actually

if you can

[amber monolith]

python

[orchid frigate]

just put the entire code into a pastebin

and give it here

[amber monolith]

ok

[orchid frigate]

oh uhhh I will try to help but

yea not the biggest python enjoyer

[amber monolith]

do you just want the traceray function and the targetting?

or the whole project

[orchid frigate]

whatever is relavent to these loops

[amber monolith]

pastebin.com/Vg2HjtHK

[orchid frigate]

Why not copy paste the link

[amber monolith]

accidentally copied all the text on the page and pasted it 😂

so my discord on pc was frozen

Had to write on phone

[orchid frigate]

💀

[amber monolith]

here

[orchid frigate]

Oh

[amber monolith]

deleting the link

[orchid frigate]

Uhhh

Rank issue

Dm me

The thing

I will post it if anyone else is willing to help

https://pastebin.com/Vg2HjtHK

From which line does the important thing start

And whats the goal

[amber monolith]

130

reduce amount of for loops

[orchid frigate]

Hmmm

Lemme review

[amber monolith]

since 100 ents * 5000 blits * 1000 rays is like 500000000 times a second its doing math intensive

stuff

[orchid frigate]

wait what is this

what is it doing

I have an idea

[amber monolith]

natural selection simulator

so its herbivores eating plants

and carnivores eating herbivores

etc

[orchid frigate]

ok

I have an idea

its not perfect but

you could basically slow down the game time

so its in frames

one frame it does all the calculations

the next too

etc

otherwise I dont really see any other way unless you redesign

[amber monolith]

so every other frame it does the math then the next one it just draws it

[orchid frigate]

no

basically instead of constantly running

you can have a button to do next frame

or smt

idk this seems huge

[amber monolith]

interesting, i suppose it could work

when i implement ai especially

since its science based

[orchid frigate]

oh god it will have ai too

[amber monolith]

yeah, the herbivores learn where the food is and also how to move

and real dna system

[orchid frigate]

lemme tell you something

this will

[amber monolith]

😆

[orchid frigate]

be slow af

with ai

like

1 frame may take a couple of minutes

if not an hour

so maybe try idk snipping some numbers

dont have so many things

[amber monolith]

it will be a very simple model that just processes the positions of food and finds a link

[orchid frigate]

yes but

huge loops

[amber monolith]

your right tho

[orchid frigate]

and python

[amber monolith]

this will send the school computers to their knees

[orchid frigate]

assembly on ring 0 would struggle to run this

[orchid frigate]

SCHOOL COMPUTERS?!?

YOU WILL BURN THEM ALIVE

[amber monolith]

😆 my last build was i think 5 frames

with one entity

and like 100 blits

[orchid frigate]

this will turn them into space ships

[orchid frigate]

a second?

[amber monolith]

yeah

[orchid frigate]

oh

yeah one frame will take hours

[amber monolith]

in dm is what it looks like

[orchid frigate]

I have many questions

first

why python

the slow language

[amber monolith]

nea has to be in python

[orchid frigate]

I mean C wouldnt be much better and difficult graphics but

[amber monolith]

the examiners are only trained to know python

it sucks really

[orchid frigate]

this sucks

[amber monolith]

what do you think of the code in general though, look professional enough do u reckon?

[orchid frigate]

if 1 and 100 blitz took so long a second

100 with 1000 would take 100 times more

add more spaces

and comments

grouping the code in regions

so its easier to read

[amber monolith]

im not gonna worry about comments just yet because this is one of 10 models ive planned

i have a year

[orchid frigate]

the fact its in python

is awful

you could have really impressed them

if you wrote it in c++ with opengl

this would win you any day

but anyway

so idk these for loops are kinda like important

I guess python may have some quirk so that you dont iretate through every object in every array every time

wait I got it

object priority

basically only update the important objects

and

dont update everything every frame

maybe divide each screen update into multiple frames

and call it...an update maybe

so an update is like 10 frames long

and each frame a certain number of objects are updated

most important first

least last

[amber monolith]

interesting

i suppose

if i only did complex math on those that wherer

close to a blit

then all the other ones gotta do is move

[orchid frigate]

divide an update into more frames

so that it runs smoother

[amber monolith]

this also got me thinking about casting the path to an array of coordinates

[orchid frigate]

so 5-8 frames for calculation

[amber monolith]

then just following that path

[orchid frigate]

2 frames for drawing

[amber monolith]

so essentially id skip the .flip command 8 times a second

this has got me thinking definitely

thanks

this is what i needed

[orchid frigate]

np

it got me thinking too

it made me wanna code

so ima start

[amber monolith]

nice, goodluck with that 👍

[orchid frigate]

you too

[knotty root]

I am Womanprotector69

[barren shale]

use numpy

instead of normal arrays

and then map the numpy arrays instead of looping over them

[next lotus]

python is just insanely slow like bruh i had 100K elements in an array normally would take 2-4 seconds on c# but damn had to use libraries written in C in python

[barren shale]

yeah if you want to do anything useful in python you need to use libraries

[half warren]

Weather report: Kansas City Kansas

      \   /     Sunny
       .-.      20 °C / 68 °F
    ― (   ) ―   ↙ 6 km/h
       `-’      16 km
      /   \     0.0 mm

[cosmic bloom]

Damn that's crazy

[wet girder]

How is it more hot in Finland than in Kansas

[hexed moon]

One message removed from a suspended account.

[barren shale]

its early in the morning

like 6 AM

[wet girder]

ah

[barren shale]

or no its not

it should be around 10 am

i guess kansas city is a cold city

probably some geography stuff

[cloud solar]

thePeopleWhoAsked = input()
if thePeopleWhoAsked == 0:
print("nobody asked")
else:
print("you lying")

the code i made a while ago

[brisk axle]

ecuador is 27ºC (i know it because im from ecuador)

that is my last/first message on this server bye lol

[orchid frigate]

Bulgaria is at this point

borderline a desert

with temps going as far up as 40C

and staying at a steady 35C

[rose pawn]

Am i too uncool to use this command? Why doesn't it work?

[knotty root]

Now Istanbul 26C⁰

[rose pawn]

I was gonna do yhat 🤨

[strong dragon]

Python?

[next lotus]

input() == 0 ? "nobody asked" : "you lying"

[next lotus]

no i believe thats assembly

[strong dragon]

Kk

[knotty root]

Vaay gardaşım

[rose pawn]

🤝 😎

[knotty crater]

does anyone here use c++?

[barren shale]

the noobs do

[next lotus]

C+ too

[uneven jacinth]

When the only C language you’ve used is plain old (-‘:

[orchid frigate]

Yes

Also dont listen to hamza

He is a stinky

[orchid frigate]

C is superior to all

[uneven jacinth]

Eh

It has its place

I'm more of a typescript guy myself

[orchid frigate]

Never used it

Nor JavaScript

Me personally im more of a rust guy

[next lotus]

ew another interpreted garbage

[uneven jacinth]

I haven’t dabbled in the world of rust yet but I kinda wanna

And excuse yourself sir typescript is not garbage 😤

[orchid frigate]

Absolutely do

This language is like c and python had a beautiful baby

[orchid frigate]

After learning that

Interpreted languages are actually easier to make than compiled

I have a new respect for them

[barren shale]

when you still think javascript is interpreted

2010 vibes

[uneven jacinth]

I mean… it is still interpreted… isn’t it?

[left leaf]

for visual studio does anybody know how to clear the empty space?

[orchid frigate]

Creating an assembler has proven to be

quite challanging

im getting an error message on line 6 of the file

there are 5 lines total

eh Im just gonna rewrite it its very buggy in its current state anyway

only 200 lines

[next lotus]

oh wait wtf its no longer interpreted

[barren shale]

since like 5 years

[knotty root]

Can ai evolve on its own even when its not programmed to evolve or do u need to program it to evolve?

[orchid frigate]

Think about it for a second

You will get your asnwer

[knotty root]

babe is that a yes or no?

[orchid frigate]

I will give you a hint

Computers operate by executing very very specific instructions

[knotty root]

ohh right, I knownow

[orchid frigate]

So unless you give it these instructions

How would it just make them up on its own

[knotty root]

is it possible to use a human brain as a cpu to do nasa simulation like stuff?

[orchid frigate]

Theoretically yes

But there are many problems

First it would perform much much worse than your average or even your low end cpu

Brains arent nearly as good at math

Second we dont know how to translate neurons to bytes

Because we dont understand neurons

So rn no

[knotty root]

ok what does gold do in computers?

[next lotus]

yes

[orchid frigate]

What

Bill gates your drunk

[next lotus]

you know how learning works right?

you dum

it can

[orchid frigate]

How can you go

[fallen lintel]

Ok

[orchid frigate]

From no memory

To alot of memory

[next lotus]

do you know how google's chess ai to work? it plays against by itself, literally rewarding itself whenever it wins

[orchid frigate]

If its memory is padded with zeros it wont do shit

[next lotus]

what

[orchid frigate]

He said

[next lotus]

this doesnt have to do with memory

[orchid frigate]

"even if its not programmed to do so"

Chess ai is programmed to do so

[next lotus]

no but it can happen

[orchid frigate]

???

[next lotus]

what if one day someone makes a neural network that makes neural networks for a specific purpose, but that neural network making neural network does something else

[fallen lintel]

Guy

[next lotus]

"even if its not programmed to do so" is a very broad sentence

[knotty root]

what does gold do in computers?

[orchid frigate]

I highly doubt that would happen

Its not like ai is concess

Fuck that word btw

[next lotus]

look

what if we break a human brain into the very basic pieces

[knotty root]

bruh

[next lotus]

you'll get neurons

[orchid frigate]

Its just a computer that is programmed in a way that almost looks like it thinks for itself

[next lotus]

now we have billions of them

what if we have an insane computer than can run billions of neural networks then

[orchid frigate]

Its still a computer

Doesnt think

Just execute instructions

[next lotus]

human consciousness is a byproduct lol we're just spectators of what our human brain is doing but its just making us feel like were doing it

[knotty root]

how fast can ai process information?

[orchid frigate]

But we are alive

A computer isnt

Its just a machine

[orchid frigate]

As fast as a CPU can process it

[knotty root]

can it be lightspeed fast?

[orchid frigate]

No lol

[next lotus]

yes but monkeys are alive, so are the smallest bacteria isnt it?

[orchid frigate]

Not even close

Nothing can be lightspeed fast

[orchid frigate]

What does that have to do with anything

[knotty root]

Ill take that as a yes

[next lotus]

the smallest bacteria has very small sets of instructions to survive, what if i wrote the same instructions via code?

[orchid frigate]

Its not biology

Its gonna be

A cold machine

A program

Its just electricity

[knotty root]

and wires

[next lotus]

yes a program that can feel, can be scared when you turn it off

[orchid frigate]

Its feelings

[knotty root]

can u also fuck it?

[orchid frigate]

Are just gonna be states

[next lotus]

probably no because it cant reproduce

[orchid frigate]

Why are you trying to give birth to a living machine

[knotty root]

no it doesnt have to reproduce

[next lotus]

not states

but layers of neural networks

[orchid frigate]

If I punch it

It will see the danger code

And execute it

Because its programmed to

Not because it cares for itself

[knotty root]

everything is possible on ai

[orchid frigate]

Or for anything

Its programmed to care

If it was this simple to make new lifeforms fuck we would probably already be in a machine war

[knotty root]

it becomes simplier over time due to technology

[next lotus]

not yet because we still have slow gpus lol

[orchid frigate]

On the low level neural networks are still just code

Just shaped like something that isnt

[next lotus]

but arent we the same lol

[orchid frigate]

Its still a cpu executing code

[next lotus]

arent we running on simple neurons making up our brain

[knotty root]

its complex

[next lotus]

so is AI

you train it

[knotty root]

how small can nanobots get?

[orchid frigate]

The size of nanoboys depends on the size of the cpu

If a cpu can be a millimetre

A nanoboy will be a tiny bit larger

[hoary hound]

according to wikipedia nanobots are in the scale of micrometers

I don't think they work like regular computers

[knotty root]

@orchid frigate what?

[orchid frigate]

Answers

You made this channel more active than ever

Ask more questions or else

[mossy cedar]

I wonder if they can create a 1nm chip.

That'd be revolutionary but I guess physics always says otherwise.

[knotty root]

omg wtf u doin here babe?

[rose pawn]

Jupe why am i wolf

[barren shale]

any wall that's less than a couple of nm long electricity can fly through

so its kinda impossible

that's why supercomputers are moving to quantum processors

[fierce inlet]

Look at your roles you are freeze

[rose pawn]

Yes but i froze it at chicken not wolf

It changed when new roles were added

[mossy cedar]

Knowing how qubits work, they can be both a 1 and 0 thanks to superposition so how do they compute with that?

Normal computers operate with 1 and 0 and having something that is both sounds kinda complicated.

[barren shale]

it sticks to either 1 or 0 when you observe it

[mossy cedar]

Hmmm.

[humble wasp]

Hamza

[barren shale]

who

[humble wasp]

Me

[mossy cedar]

Well it sounds like a gamble.

[barren shale]

no its not

it scales exponentially

if you have 32 bit in a normal computer

to double it you need 64 bits

if you have 32 qbit in a quantum computer

to double it you need 33 qbit

the only problem right now

is that quantum computer run only on like -250 degrees

[wet girder]

Why Fahrenheit

[barren shale]

it is -273.333

celsius

[barren shale]

google is american i guess

🗿

[mossy cedar]

I'm not well versed with quantum physics as a disclaimer. So how do you compute with something that can be both 1 and 0? Does it become a 1 when you observe it a certain way or it's just probabilities like hoping that it'll be a 1 or a 0?

[barren shale]

dont really know

go watch a youtube video

they are all confusing

quantum physics is one of these things that you need a phd in to start understanding a bit of it

same with AI

[mossy cedar]

Yeah thats why I'm asking here.

Well at least there's someone else here that's just as brainfucked with quantum stuff as me.

[barren shale]

everyone is

as i said

no phd

no understand

[knotty root]

Can a hivemind of nanobots kill all life?

[knotty root]

With youtube u can understand anything

[mossy cedar]

Freecodecamp should probably offer a quantum course if that's the case.

Now that I think about it, could you possibly teach yourself quantum physics?💀💀

I'm trying to teach myself unity game development and my head already wanna freeze over

[next lotus]

damn why courses

cant you just read docs lol

or just watch a yt video i dont really get why people pay for things you can get on a google search

i bet those guys teaching at udemy probably google their entire career loool

[mossy cedar]

Nah I never used courses, I just used the wrong word here. All my gained knowledge is thanks to those youtube chads and the google and stack overflow guys

[knotty root]

Can u do surgery on a guy?

[barren shale]

no

[knotty root]

Bruh

[mossy cedar]

I'm not a medical professional.

[barren shale]

imagine nuclear physicist graduated from youtube

[mossy cedar]

That is if those cpr lessons at school even count as medical experience.

[mossy cedar]

Bachelor of science, major in Kurzgesagt videos.

Totally not me

[orchid frigate]

I wanted to learn quantum assembly a while back

There are actually many quantum languages available

Including a c like language

But all of them require some strange tools to run because ya know

Quantum machine code is alot different from normal machine code

So I gave up

But it seems like things have evolved since last time I looked

Even more languages have appeared

[mossy cedar]

I wonder if classical computers would go obsolete in the far future thanks to quantum stuff.

[orchid frigate]

Maybe yes

But in the very far future

For quantum computers to become the norm

Everything will have to be reprogrammed in a quantum language

Or

Brand new compilers will have to be maid for the current languages

But even then I doubt things will still work the same

[mossy cedar]

I agree.

Unless if they make a breakthrough in current computer tech like going below 1nm chipsets then yes quantum will eventually replace them.

[orchid frigate]

Problem is

Operating systems will need to drastically change

Both in code and in theory

I kinda wanna try to make a quantum bootloader

[mossy cedar]

Although electrons can pass thru if the wall is too thin, hence the difficulty in making chipsets smaller. I wonder how they'll overcome this issue.

[orchid frigate]

But I dont think any quantum cpus have specifications

[main brook]

have fun writing with QAssembly

💀

[orchid frigate]

Im not scared of the code

Im scared that I dont know the booting theory on those things

What bios they use

So on

[main brook]

not sure either

we never know how it boots

it just tells us how it works

[orchid frigate]

I overcame normal assembly quite fast so qassembly shouldnt be too much of a challange

Lemme check if a quantum cpu has specification

Well

No

Unsurprisingly

All quantum computers are in startup firms so they are all like

Experiments

[main brook]

darn

[orchid frigate]

;(

I hope one day

[main brook]

and we know how capitalist are

[orchid frigate]

Quantum computers are used for mining

[main brook]

they're gonna keep it a secret

[orchid frigate]

And the block chain just falls

Collapses

[main brook]

yeah it's not decentralized anymore

if its like controlled by 1 big computer

quantum computer

for that matter

although im not sure if it's faster

because exchanging data safely

is like

bogosort

[orchid frigate]

I just want the crypto market to fall

Every day it becomes more and more of a scam

And the people on top become more and more annoying

[mossy cedar]

Never really saw anything lately about crypto stuff that isn't a scam.

Probably just a buncha scammers tryna scam each other

[orchid frigate]

Its just a bunch of scammers who are relatively ok with technology trying to scam the people who have absolutely no clue how modern technology works

Also just read that quantum computers are apparently

Supposed to be specific use

So no os

:(((((

[barren shale]

first you need to figure out how to make a small sized freezer that can do -270.33 degrees

[mossy cedar]

💀💀

Electricity bill's gonna be worse than American healthcare

[barren shale]

they can figure out an efficient way

i believe

[orchid frigate]

Maybe

I can imagine that

Having a small freezer in your pc

[mossy cedar]

We're talking about the coldest stuff around

Like seriously cold, almost absolute zero cold.

Maybe that's a bit of an exaggeration but yeah.

[orchid frigate]

Humans have done more insane stuff

Like that time we survived the cold era

cuts away to peter getting stuck in ice

[mossy cedar]

There should be a detailed indian youtube tutorial about it somewhere

[orchid frigate]

So apparently

In 2019

A quantum computer was ran and

It did calculations 3,000,000 times faster than the current super computer

...

Damn

Kinda doubt thats real but

[barren shale]

why would anyone lies about that

[orchid frigate]

The media

Overexagurates technology alot

Especially with quantum computers

[next lotus]

wtf the new discord react native update is so slow

[next lotus]

im 100% sure thats real

[orchid frigate]

"The machine can process 200,000 trillion calculations per second - or 200 petaflops." Thats for summit

Which at the time was the fastest super computer

[topaz turret]

How do I download maps

[orchid frigate]

That means that a quantum computer can perform 6e23 calculations per second

Im quite doubtful for that

[orchid frigate]

By reading channel descriptions and pins

[trim swan]

Where m i

[supple mural]

Code

[restive wagon]

Cave

[mossy cedar]

Cave

[knotty root]

Can ai surpass human intelligence?

[keen hollow]

Yes

But not replicate it exactly in the same context

There are some things that can't be understood rationally

But maybe they'll get close to it

Plus there might be a limit to it

In the hardware i mean

A limit in the way it connects to the world since it's only a machine

[knotty root]

yes it can

[mossy cedar]

We're just meat AI in a way, if you look at the bigger picture. We've been constantly debugged by nature for millions of years, we've developed survival instincts, bigger intelligence capacity, and even have changed what we've looked like as time passed. In a way, we have a massive and valuable amount of data and experience at our disposal which won't ever be replicated by AI anytime soon.

[knotty root]

tldr

[keen hollow]

No

The human experience is wider than it seems

[knotty root]

if its programmed to contstantly improve itself itll prolly replicate it at one point even surpass it

and prolly become godlike in the far future

[keen hollow]

We are also programmed for the same and we created another being because we were limited xd

[mossy cedar]

We don't even have a full understanding of how our bodies even work, how much more replicate it.

It's like building a puzzle with missing parts.

[knotty root]

so become a doctor maybe

[mossy cedar]

AI is made by humans, and humans doesn't even know how their own brains work. If we're gonna replicate human intelligence and even surpass it we need a full knowledge of how our psychology works first or you're in for a ride full of failures.

[knotty root]

maybe in the future theyll fully know how it works

[keen hollow]

The AI can't comprehend our mind from their perspective, they could theorize tho, having access to thousands of thousands of data and information realated to psychology and neuroscience, art, history

But the real work will come when we know what we truly have to do

[knotty root]

I like planes, especially flying wings

can a human brain be extracted from a dying person and be used to pilot military vehicles so it doesnt had to have crews that needed space, and also give the vehicle like sensors or even pain receptors so when the vehicle is hit the brain feels the pain?

like a last chance to likve or something like that yk

[keen hollow]

That'd be fucking torture

[knotty root]

but hey sacrificing ethics or whatever they call for efficiency

like a tank piloted by 1 human brain, its smaller bc no crew compartment and the smaller it is the harder it is to hit

also it has some smaller robots inside the tank to maybe repair somethings, also controlled by the brain

[hardy field]

If you hook up someones brain to a tank, do you really want to risk them getting angry about it and just attacking you?

[knotty root]

just threaten to execute its family if it ever does that or something, maybe plant a bomb near the brain so just incase it goes rogue, it can be blown up

[next lotus]

wrong

in the far future they can

look at what AI can do nowadays, i can hear people from 2001 saying these are impossible

[knotty root]

late reply, now nearly everyone died

[knotty root]

or maybe ask it if it wants to be hooked up to a tank

[next lotus]

cool but it doesnt matter

i can reply to a 2 year old message and still make a statement

[keen hollow]

You're giving them too many responsabilities that shouldn't be theirs lol, maybe they could comprehend it by merging completely with our brain and body but i feel like thats too much

[next lotus]

why? whats wrong with giving them a lot of responsibilties its not like they can whine

if the neural network is trained to do one thing it will unless you train a neural network badly

[knotty root]

is it like training a dog?

[mossy cedar]

The program, in this case a neural network will follow what is instructed down to the letter.

That's like the very foundation of programming, it's not like code has a conscience of it's own or else we'd have countless worker strikes 💀

For real though, just think of it like an extension of your arms or legs, but like you have to build the components/parts yourself, you can make it cranky or very smooth depending on how you build your parts.

[next lotus]

depends how you structure it

[next lotus]

what if i instruct it to be like human, what if i code it to have a conscience of its own?

[mossy cedar]

Nah, it'll just return an error.

[next lotus]

no it wont

feed dalle2 with "a human sitting on a bench" and it wont return an error

[mossy cedar]

Looks like I misunderstood your question

What I wanted to say was like it requires some sort of framework for it to be able to do such task, you don't want a human being to walk on two legs that doesn't have bones right?

[next lotus]

oh you meant something like tensorflow yeah

[knotty root]

is it better to use a human brain on a tank or an ai?

[mossy cedar]

Yeah I suppose.

[vivid zodiac]

an Ai ofc

[barren shale]

the ultimate goal

an AI that makes a better AI and then the new AI will make a better AI

and then you get infinitely good AI

[next lotus]

i believe a human brain on a tank, felix

but our current tech can only do us AI for now

you see a human brain at least has all aspects of human intelligence and that includes morals, it was human once it knows if we're hurt or not, a plain AI we can never know if we got wrong training it then it kills humans

and that includes femboy catboys like you felix

[knotty root]

bish who u callin felix the catboy? its just my pfp u have a literal microsoft

[next lotus]

rimuru im literally wearing a tshirt of you right now, but thanks for agreeing with me

[next lotus]

oh you're not felix? who are you then

[knotty root]

ur fellow human bruh

[knotty root]

then add pain receptors on the tank

[next lotus]

jesus

[knotty root]

lul they became soft

[knotty root]

orgasmic

it works

[vivid zodiac]

uhmm, thx ??

[lapis flint]

[next lotus]

time to switch to an open source alternativw

kinda weird github copilot isnt one, money is the root of all evil as they say :(

[orchid frigate]

string manipulation in rust ladies and gentleman

let line = line.chars()
            .filter(|s| !(s == &char::from(' ')))
            .collect::<String>();
let chr = chr.to_lowercase()
                .to_string()
                .trim()
                .chars()
                .next()
                .unwrap();

OMG IT ACTUALLY WORKS

one step closer to making my own assembler
then bootloader with that assembler

that will be so fucking op

[next lotus]

wtf damn thats a lot of lines

[orchid frigate]

the second one turns a char back into a char

just a lowercase one

because to_lowercase returns ToLowerCase for some reason

[next lotus]

in c# its

var line = new string(Console.ReadLine().Where(x => x != ' ')).ToLower().Trim()```

[knotty root]

why are computer chips mostly green?

[next lotus]

ask the manufacturer

[knotty root]

manufacture deez nuta

[next lotus]

you can color pcbs black

[orchid frigate]

this just reminded me that

instead of turning each char into a lowercase char

I can just turn the entire line into one

I will come back with an even bigger var

[next lotus]

are you removing spaces?

[knotty root]

whats a char?

[next lotus]

an integer

[knotty root]

a charcoal?

[next lotus]

without the coal

[orchid frigate]

oh

it became smaller

the char thing disappeared

now its just

let line = line.chars()
            .filter(|s| !(s == &char::from(' ')))
            .collect::<String>()
            .to_lowercase();

well thats dissapointing

[next lotus]

are you removing space

[knotty root]

should I get computer or electronic engineering?

[orchid frigate]

Im turning
LOAD $51 #21;
into
load$51#21

[next lotus]

well u still gotta .trim that makes everything safer

[next lotus]

thats for you to choose felix

[orchid frigate]

I think I do it later

I think

Ima do it again just in case

[next lotus]

but being a femboy catboy

i believe you look better on computer engineering

[knotty root]

I aint a femboy bruh, u think ill click on keys with my paws?

[orchid frigate]

nice

now I just need to parse arguments

[next lotus]

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTxy6r6bNM6HzN_maGsZfJYrP9StJ8vzcKDsQ&usqp=CAU

like this

[knotty root]

bruh is that u? nuce legs btw

[next lotus]

im finding one for you

[knotty root]

why not u?

[next lotus]

damnit everything is astolfo

i cant be femboy, i weigh an additional 500kg above the maximum weight

[knotty root]

so ur obese then?

[next lotus]

🤫 dont tell anyone

[hoary hound]

Finally being a student pays off

[orchid frigate]

parsing arguments appears to be

more difficult than I originally expected

[lapis flint]

I even cant pay

[next lotus]

use lib

[hoary hound]

Blocked?

[orchid frigate]

hell no

I can use nom

[lapis flint]

Yes, i am in russia

[orchid frigate]

but it uses macros

you know how fucking complicated macros in rust are

[hoary hound]

damn for you

[lapis flint]

[orchid frigate]

one macro is equivilent to 1000 lines of normal code to me

[next lotus]

why macros

doesnt rust have

generics

[orchid frigate]

yes

it also has macros

I hate them

easily the most complicated thing in the language

[next lotus]

coming from c# that doesnt use macros i can confirm its complicated

coming from someone who never wrote a single macro

[orchid frigate]

macros are universally complicated

the only place they arent is

assembly

there calling a macro is equivilent to pasting code to that place

[next lotus]

thats

weird

so it isnt part of the language

[orchid frigate]

idk if thats actually the case but I mean

[next lotus]

its a compiler thing

[orchid frigate]

I think it is

havent written many macros in it

[orchid frigate]

of course

assembly gets compiled to machine code

and machine code def doesnt have macros

or assembled

sorry

im sure someone was gonna cancel me over that

building an assembler has made me realise that

machine code is actually simple af

this shit still works

but it shouldnt work

I have made sure it shouldnt work

how tf is it still working

[barren shale]

is it really that helpful

from what i saw

it can do easy things for you with a small chance of errors

but for hard things its useless

or specific things

and easy things already exist everywhere on stackoverflow

so is typing the comment really faster than googling it

[orchid frigate]

hamza askin the good questions

[main brook]

my friend

windows

apparently lost his

uefi boot file

no idea how

but winload.efi was missing

even windows recovery tools couldn't fix it

[orchid frigate]

The fact I just entered chat

And you were typing

Ia insane

But anyway

How could it just

Stop existing

[main brook]

no idea

other than his laptop is old as time

[orchid frigate]

Pretty sure thats not the boot file

[main brook]

there is also

bootmgr

that's missing

[main brook]

yeah its not

[orchid frigate]

So the easiest fix would be

To somehow get them

[main brook]

how

[orchid frigate]

And through linux just put them in their place

[main brook]

well i mean

[orchid frigate]

Idk the internet should have them

[main brook]

i can't install shit on a usb linux

i can't read NTFS

[orchid frigate]

Hmmm

[main brook]

so putting it in there is a no no

downgrading windows fails too

apparently after

"Finishing up"

[orchid frigate]

How do you know its missing

[main brook]

it errors

[main brook]

literally the error says that

[orchid frigate]

Have you tried f1

[main brook]

yes

it just reboots

local recovery tools doesn't work

that's why i flashed windows 10 on my usb

and then this

when he tried to fix it

💀

[orchid frigate]

At this point I don't think just winload is missing

I think the system is barely alive

[main brook]

true

[orchid frigate]

Hold on lemme check something

[main brook]

but we can't even downgrade windows

plus reinstalling windows deletes his files

which is important

[orchid frigate]

Ok

So

I can give you winload.efi

[main brook]

we literally have a pptx project due next Wednesday

[orchid frigate]

But does the pc have some free space perhaps

[main brook]

yes

[orchid frigate]

Actually

Usb will do

[main brook]

his storage is 1TB iirc

because his 3rd partition is

900GB

[orchid frigate]

I mean non formatted

[main brook]

i think so

well not sure

haven't checked

[orchid frigate]

You can install another windows temporarily and get the files from there

Then just put them in the other partition

[main brook]

hm

confusing

reminds me, weird thing that happened

when i used linux

i moved his file to my sdcard

i can read ntfs just fine when i mounted the partition to /mnt

but after few reboots

it stops working

and errors with unknown filesystem

the linux is in a usb

so its pretty weird

[orchid frigate]

Files from sdcards are weird

And usb linux is just

No

[main brook]

dude

how do you expect me to boot

if windows is broken

literally a boot media

💀

plus my sdcard is exFat 256GB

[orchid frigate]

Ok

[main brook]

i was moving from his HDD

[orchid frigate]

Changed my mind

[main brook]

and fyi it was an installer linux

usually they have option to use them from the media

or install it

unlike mfs windows

[orchid frigate]

Yea I know

Windows doesn't have that

Because not advanced enough

💀

[main brook]

💀

[orchid frigate]

But anyway so

How tf did you just randomly boot

And winload suddenly

Unexisted itself

[main brook]

not sure

but he updated from 20h to 21h

i forgot the last digit

and issues appeared

[orchid frigate]

20h what

[main brook]

but i know his laptop is crap

[main brook]

windows 10 update

it was 20hX but i forgot what the X was

[orchid frigate]

So he updated

And then

Problems

Did he perhaps end the update too early

I did that once

Had to repair via linux

I fucking love dual boot

[main brook]

heh

i don't

my brother's university on his 4th semester

the prof wanted everyone to use dual boot

and literally half of the class bricked their laptop

and then everyone used VirtualBox

[orchid frigate]

Bruh I just looked out the window thinkin it was 2:30

And I see the sun 💀

[main brook]

oml sleep ffs haydot

💀

[orchid frigate]

Nah

I will sleep tommorow

[main brook]

tomorrow is in 12 hours+

[orchid frigate]

How 💀

[orchid frigate]

My record is 100 💀 💀 💀

[main brook]

the prof doesn't help or even supervise

so they're doing it themselves

and 1-3 semester

all they do is

do php

and do math

mainly geometry

for some reason

[orchid frigate]

But still how do you brick a laptop with access to bios

Even if you fail

[main brook]

no idea

[orchid frigate]

You can just delete the failed attempt 💀

[main brook]

they fucked up so bad

even their laptop gave up

[main brook]

and still lost half of your project

and assignment

both is alarming

[orchid frigate]

This is why

I save everything on OneDrive

The one feature Bill did right

Or github if im on linux

[main brook]

remindsme

can you use github as cdn

[orchid frigate]

Card dynamic narrator?

Yea

[next lotus]

if you wanna split the files each at 100mb yes

[orchid frigate]

im so fucking close to getting the assembler to work

it parses the first argument

but skips the second

[main brook]

Content Delivery Network

[orchid frigate]

IT WORKS

IT PARSES ALL ARGUMENTS

LETS GOOO

[orchid frigate]

now the new challange

parsed data to little endian machine code

[knotty root]

should I specialize in hardware or software?

[keen hollow]

In what makes u happier baby