⌨coders-cave

[amber monolith]

like everything has been updated atleast once in 2 months

and thats the main fork

[orchid frigate]

Tbh its not that hard if you dedicate to it

Os development isnt as hard as they make it out to be

Its just unpopular

And thus noone knows its actual difficulty

Its just alot of reading

And using third party tools

[amber monolith]

looks really daunting

[orchid frigate]

Also I may steal the acpi drivers from linux because

[amber monolith]

anyone that wasnt an expert i suppose would take one look and go

hell nah

[orchid frigate]

Those suck to implement

Been stuck doing them for a while

[amber monolith]

go for it mate there public why not

anyway I gotta try and get some sleep

going to croatia tommorow

in a bit

[orchid frigate]

Yoo nice

Why you going is it like q vacation or

[amber monolith]

family + extended

theres like 40 of us in total

[orchid frigate]

Cool

Well alright ima let you sleep now

It was nice talking to you and have a nice trip

[amber monolith]

thank you brother 🙏

[main brook]

the most wholesome chat we seen in ages

[rose pawn]

Hi rei

[main brook]

hi

[dire blade]

I think I will continue Cody's RPG since theres a lot of things he hasnt finished yet

[next lotus]

fard

[thin schooner]

between c++ and java, which should i choose, because i'm going to university and need future direction

[next lotus]

c++

[formal grail]

Yesterday I started making an online game similar to WorldBox :D

But my language C++

I'm undecided about C# or C++

Unity uses C# :(

[next lotus]

ofc you do c# unless you want to manually do pointer and freeing objects in c++

[orchid frigate]

I don't get why people hate pointers

They are literally simpler than oop stuff

Plus you really dont have to do the mm alot

Or atleast you don't have to overcomplicate it

[next lotus]

pointer is more

complicated

like

why sometimes c uses . and sometimes ->

and pointers get dangled around

[orchid frigate]

No

[orchid frigate]

Thats simple

. Is for structures that are not pointers

-> is for pointers

And you also have nested pointers

And thats it

If you know these things gj you know pointers

[orchid frigate]

So actually after a bit of research

The windows kernel is somehow smaller than the linux one

And by alot

27mil is the linux one

And 1.6 mil is the windows

Ig the windows system is just divided into alot of system programmes

[silver prawn]

@orchid frigate windows spilts code into programs that gets variables for execution by arguments

You just need to build a bash system

And then make system programs command based

[pearl adder]

.

[barren quiver]

linux literally runs on refrigerators, cameras & hand watches, all that code to support embedded devices is ofc not included in an x86 distribution of linux so in reality it's alot smaller than that. I have heard it's more monolithic than the windows kernel but i'm not sure that that would mean it's bigger in size

i doubt it, specially since the 1.7 mil figure is coming from Microsoft and they are most definetely only counting the windos x86 kernel

but who knows, maybe ring 0 device drivers really bloat the linux kernel and make it larger than NT

[orchid frigate]

the bootloaders code can be big but idk if its 27mil lines big

but tbh I dont see any other reason for it to be this huge

but the bootcode shouldnt even be included into the kernel imo

oh wait its not just bootcode

all those devices it runs on need their own drivers too

most of the time vendor specific

yea now I get it

[barren quiver]

yeah, the bootloader is not part of the linux kernel, you can use any multiboot2 compliant bootloader including the windows bootloader to load linux so it's really completely separate software

[orchid frigate]

I didnt mean multiboot2, i meant the other bootcode

The code that takes the info from multiboot2 and gives it to the kernel

[thin schooner]

📈

[rotund kayak]

imagine a nuclear war in worldbox, more animals, tsunami, countrys buying the other country product, civillian wars, planes

[rotund kayak]

war planes, trains

the perfect mod

[knotty root]

is c++better?

[orchid frigate]

Than what

[next lotus]

what if

multiplayer mod in worldbox

[silver prawn]

Damn I have to make that

[rotund kayak]

YE

[next lotus]

lol want me to help you out

im know everything about networking

i made multiplayer mods for like 3 games already

alr alr chill

i might

make one

xDD

[silver prawn]

Cool

[silver prawn]

Sure lemme just find the docs for the game

@next lotus well it must be implemented directly into the game to support such thing

Like the other player will have a god finger

[next lotus]

im not sure but

can you reference another library in bepinex?

basically we'll be using a library for the udp protocol my best pick is LiteNetLib bc it automatically serializes entire classes for you to send it over udp

it also works for mono but im not sure how you use it with bepinex

[hollow bronze]

this is not #🔧modding-talk lul

game doesnt need bepinex since it has its own loader

and yes you can import any library you want as long as you provide the dlls

you'd have better luck there in #🔧modding-talk (the channel made for this conversation) probably with cody who has made some multiplayer stuff

[main brook]

im on a date

with locking

taking shit long time

i just started with 3 packages

and its been locking from 10 minutes ago

💀

its not even a C module

[rose pawn]

https://1b-f.s3.eu-west-1.amazonaws.com/a/195476-0…6E-2031-4A0C-9C1B-6878D374549E-174-1659350379.gif

[barren shale]

rip

can't type the l word

[proud wharf]

Ok. I have no clue were to ask this so I guess I will here. Friendly coders. Though this channels not world box related. I must know. Does anyone have an idea of why world box has such a small max world size. I know it's due to performance, but it's hard to imagine what causes it though. Is it the multiple npc ais running at once? The constant updating of the entire map. Biome overgrowth? Even with all of this together I can't figure out what could cause such a drastic lowering in performance. The graphics are realitivly simple, is there something more complex in the code that I don't know about. Then comes the question of could the game be optimized to run at extream map sizes.

All I know is basic computer science class stuff and basic HTML and python. So anything you may explain might cause a syntax error in my mind. But I would love to see the variables that cause this. Thanks

im very much interested in how the game functions on a code level

[wet girder]

Probably the amount of computing required for firstly the world to change and live and secondly for the NPCs to roam around and do their things as bigger the world, the more there will je npcs

#🔧modding-talk can answer better than me tho

[dark crystal]

Hey guys i've got a little bit of a problem i am working on a python program that synchronises my yt playlist and my local playlist it creates two arrays one filled with the titles of my yt playlist and one with the titles of my local playlist now i am stuck because i dont know how i can compare these two arrays and filter out the matching pairs

here is my pastebin https://pastebin.com/A9HRuGh5

[rose pawn]

How hard is it to access the source server that an ios app uses

[dark crystal]

apple being apple i guess

[rose pawn]

is there any way to make bots on ios

To work on ios apps

Jailbreak thingy maybe?

Not sure what exactly that is

[hoary hound]

https://stackoverflow.com/questions/3697432/how-to-find-list-intersection

should work with strings as well

didn't test though

[dark crystal]

ty man with this:

def comp_lists():
newlist= list(set(plist) & set(llist))
newplist = list(set(plist) - set(newlist))
newllist = list(set(llist) - set(newlist))
print(newllist)
print(newplist)

it works now

funny enough it does the opposite it gives me the matches so huh

that why i subtract the old and new list

[hoary hound]

ah I read it wrong sorry

thought you wanted the matches

[dark crystal]

nah its supposed to filter the matching parts so that the rest can be put in a for loop

[dark crystal]

Hey @hoary hound do you want to see the final program?

[hoary hound]

sure

[dark crystal]

https://pastebin.com/BnhDH1TL

Its my first program in python before i only did like small stuff in C and PHP

[hasty bane]

hackthebox is fun asf

only problem is academy is kinda annoying

with the bits etc

so im just doing labs for now and looking into tools as i go xd

[rose pawn]

Hey jupe i just wanted to tell your name is so cool

For some reason it gives me exitement to read that yellow text of "jupe"

[tender hornet]

Y

[next lotus]

developer skill issue

infinite world size is possible but that requires big brain, dev would need to implement chunking, lazy updating on the entities not in the viewed chunks

basically all you have to do is render part of the map that is visible to the player

like how minecraft, genshin and uh open world games in general does it

[hollow bronze]

most of the map is visible to the player most of the time

even if it wasn't implementing that would be awful when you zoomed out and the whole thing lagged

you could make it like minecraft and make it an infinite map, but then you lose all the detailed intricate simulation, what worldbox is going for basically

it does have chunks and other stuff for optimization already in it, but using other game solutions will make it... a different game

perhaps you could make an alternate mode for that sort of thing, trading for lazier simulation, but I'm not sure everyone would want that trade-off when sim is a large portion of the game.

also, for notice I responded to the original question in #🔧modding-talk explaining the pure number of tiles and what-not that affect it, (saving someone a paragraph writeup potentially)

[next lotus]

i have done a sin

[orchid frigate]

But if you had to look at the whole map

Or even half

Wait these mesaages weren't here before

[orchid frigate]

Sin?

All I see is the slow transformation to a low level dev

Proud of you Bill gates 07

[hoary hound]

I swear I have never had a teacher that didn't absolutely forbid us from ever using goto 💀

well if you don't acount Assembly of course

usually anything you do with goto can be done without it

why are you using it?

[dark crystal]

why is goto bad if you dont mind me asking?

[hoary hound]

It can lead to hard to understand and mantain code and it makes your program unpredictable if used incorrectly. There rare cases when it's still useful, for example deep nested loops, with a simple goto you can instantly break from all the loops

[dark crystal]

huh interesting, thanks

[hoary hound]

Personally I tend to avoid it, usually I never need it

[next lotus]

i just needed to break out of a for loop inside a switch statement

[next lotus]

NOOOOOOO

jesus you guys use like jmp all the time

[hoary hound]

you could also use a flag

I mean it doesn't change much

[next lotus]

but that would be

ugly

ngl goto looks prettier

it just jumps rather than initializing a new variable

[orchid frigate]

I mean

Assembly is impossible without it

For loops and stuff

Its probs the most used instruction of all time

Behind mov

[hasty bane]

carbon is weird

so much hype around it too

c++ killer #3942

[orchid frigate]

Carbon is literally rust

With a different name

And some different keywords

Like wtf the syntax is the exact same

Also

Stop killing c++ its dead already you are beating a dead corpse at this point

[knotty root]

whats the best language?

[orchid frigate]

C-

[next lotus]

uh

C+ is better

[solar root]

haha nerds

[robust ice]

Am I worthy to be here

I use Lua 5.1

[inner granite]

Hello

[robust ice]

Hi

[next lotus]

haha normie

[barren shale]

No

Everyone hates lua here

[rose pawn]

Am i included in the "everyone"

[mossy cedar]

Programming language used by cavemen back in 5000bc

[dark crystal]

I actually learned the basics of programming so loops, if statements, arrays ect. in C because my brother told me if i get C i get almost every other programming language lmao

[robust ice]

Why

[robust ice]

Lua is superior

[hasty bane]

not even close

[next lotus]

the only thing i like about lua is its diverse lore

it was made by a priest

[wet girder]

lua is the worst language ever created

no one should ever use it

it has 0 legitimate use cases

[hasty bane]

Very based

btw is amp open source?

[wet girder]

not atleast yet

but tbh it'd be easier recreating stuff from amp rather than looking at the source code lol

the code is garbage

[hasty bane]

Fair ig

amp 2 when?

[hoary hound]

roblox

[wet girder]

I said legitimate

[hoary hound]

https://tenor.com/view/wheeze-wheeze-laugh-nikkal-kundhal-nikkalkundhal-gif-23223780

[hasty bane]

roblox is luau

-> not real lua

-> lua remains useless

😎

[knotty root]

True

[cursive shuttle]

[knotty root]

Doesn't make it useful

[dark crystal]

Lua has only 2 real uses in gmod and in the ComputerCraft mod for Minecraft

[orchid frigate]

dont forget

the binding of isaac also uses lua

and that game is fucking amazing so ig 3

[next lotus]

i thought its c++

and a homemade engine

[orchid frigate]

last I heard it was lua

but wait

which version

[next lotus]

i dont know i dont play

lol\

[orchid frigate]

cuz I think rebirth and the og one use different things

[next lotus]

but tbh lua bad the last time i used it is on cheat engine

[orchid frigate]

"isaac-log is a log reader for Rebirth and Afterbirth written in Node. js"

wtf is this random response

lol

ah so rebirth was in c++

[knotty root]

is carbon gud?

[wet girder]

it seems cool

[hasty bane]

its prob good

dont think its gonna kill cpp

[rose pawn]

Carbon tastes really goon

[orchid frigate]

im really angry at carbon

it basically steals the best parts of rust and takes the spotlight from the real mvp

the og cpp killer

the real top G

[hasty bane]

does it steal the best parts of rust tho?

[orchid frigate]

the absolute legend

[orchid frigate]

it fails to even do that

it just took the syntax

and some of the keywords

[hasty bane]

yeah its not ripping off rust

[orchid frigate]

and boom new langauge

[hasty bane]

it looks like it wants to push rust out of the "cpp killer" competition

into its own niche

[orchid frigate]

why does there have to be so many languages

[hasty bane]

which is cpp-like but much safer

[orchid frigate]

why cant we have one for each category and thats it

[hasty bane]

bloat

and also one category is very broad

[orchid frigate]

assembly for the insane people c for the lesser insane people but still mental hospital worthy and idk about web development thats scary

c# for game development

and for the bill gates fans

rust for the top Gs

thats it

you know what fuck it from this day on these are the only languages I consider real

and lua so that I can make fun of it

[hasty bane]

lel

[rose jolt]

Any mod documentasions?

[hollow bronze]

for worldbox? #🔧modding-talk

they would know

if not for worldbox, clarify

[orchid frigate]

writing 350 lines straight in assembly has officially made me

mentally insane

and every time there is a bug

you gotta go to the debugger and go through the code instruction by instruction

and even then

you have no idea whats wrong

the worst part is there is a slight chance the error isnt in the code

I cant imagine how people did this 30 years ago

aaand the bug isnt even in my code because trying code that should work didnt work

so its time to restart the project ig

[orchid frigate]

...after two hours of head banging

I found it

and its stupid

its the equivilent of not putting a ;

but in assembly

...this is not ok for the nerves man

[cunning summit]

c++ and c# users 🤣

[next lotus]

i sense skid

[main brook]

when you're making a realtime connection app and your web framework is focused on edge technology 💀

[main brook]

i made this monstrosity

in svelte

import { io } from "socket.io-client";

    let authenticated = false;
    let name = "rere";
    let messages = [];
    let msg = "";
    let sendMsg;
                                                                          async function submit() {
        if(name.length == 0) return
        const sio = io(resolveUri(), {
            query: { name: name },
            path: "/gateaway/socket.io"
        });

        sio.on("messageAdd", (data) => {
            messages = [...messages, data]
        });                                                           
        sio.on("connect", async () => {
            sendMsg = () => {
                if(msg.length == 0) {
                    return
                };
                sio.emit("messageAdd", {msg:{content: msg}});
                msg = "";
            }
            authenticated = true;
            messages = await fetch(resolveUri()+"/messages").then(r => r.json());
        });
    };

[barren shale]

svelte is nice

much nicer than react

[random linden]

starts convulsing

[main brook]

yes

[wet girder]

gotta pin one thing

https://dontasktoask.com/

[main brook]

took you a while

[vapid hatch]

Can i see my rank here?

[orchid frigate]

No

[rose pawn]

Rei would you like to see the data from my web scraper

The one that you helped with

[barren shale]

nobody does

[timid field]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S9bK1VVQdkE

cant wait for calculator video game

like in gumball

[wet girder]

Nexusmods is the most idiotic website for modding to ever exist

nothing is done well

everything is half assed

atleast for free users

if you want to fucking download more than one mod at once you have to pay 5 fucking dollars a month

who the fuck can justify that

IT'S FUCKING MODS

they should be free

[hasty bane]

clearly you're wrong

[mossy cedar]

I download all my stardew valley mods there, I can assure you it's total ass especially the mobile version website, it's buggy as hell it would randomly scroll you back to the top which is incredibly annoying plus the download's capped at 2mb/s which can get frustrating with bigger mods

Plus its hard to navigate especially for new people, also I don't understand why you have to create an account just to download some stupid ass mod like ???

[next lotus]

how dare u

one of nexusmods admin is my friend >:(

actually jk idk them anymore

[next lotus]

i totally understand this as a mod publisher as well, you cant just give users the mod directly that makes us feel insecure

like dude we spend hours reverse engineering everything you should even be thankful its free lol

there are a lot of people willing to pay, a lot of developers would charge 1000$+ for actual mods especially aimbots and stuff like that, i remember content creators for among us, minecraft would pay even 10,000$+ for a custom made mod

dont forget the stuff we have to go through, a lot of developers would obfuscate, add anticheat which is you they can just get with a push of a button , it takes years to actually learn and find your way through, also the goddamn kernel level anticheat is just insane nowadays, but if its just a small game that you can easily use cheat engine with it tends to be free but if you see that account register requirement dude the mod developer probably thought of making it paid once and yeah its buggy because its free, he doesnt have the motivation to do it because he earns nothing with it you just gotta understand

[mossy cedar]

you got a point there

[orchid frigate]

How does a kernel level anticheat even work

Like why does it need kernel level stuff

[next lotus]

valorant has been doing it since launch

[orchid frigate]

And how does it get them

[next lotus]

basically kernel level can hide win32 api or just the entire process itself

idk i dont do memory modding very much but they would attach debuggers or inject codes on the process

[main brook]

uh sure?

[orchid frigate]

Hide win32?

[next lotus]

yes

[orchid frigate]

Why would it hide that

[next lotus]

because we inject codes there

[main brook]

i made this https://github.com/CutieRei/wtf-chatapp

[next lotus]

we can basically make processes load a .dll file containing epic hax0r codes

[orchid frigate]

Modding seems harder than I thought it was originally

[next lotus]

yes it takes years

like this

[orchid frigate]

Do you inject binary files in there

[next lotus]

https://github.com/AYIDouble/Simple-DLL-Injection/blob/master/C%2B%2B/SimpleDLLInjection/SimpleDLLInjection.cpp

like this

you can inject libraries at runtime

and hook to functions, change variables on the game

[orchid frigate]

Like from assembly you make bin and put it in some license check in

[next lotus]

yeah thats how cracks work too they just replace a dll handling licenses for ex. amtlib.dll in photoshop lol

[orchid frigate]

Also I still dont know wtf dll files are or how they work

They seem dangerous for everyone

[orchid frigate]

I remember when I did some crackmes I just used a debugger and went through every instruction to get to the check and just changed some random register lol

But that probs doesnt work in the real world

... does it?

[next lotus]

thats how it works lol

cheat engine is the best tool for that

like dude you have insane knowledge on assembly it will be easy af for you

[orchid frigate]

Well the hard part is finding the part thats the actual check for me

[next lotus]

https://www.cheatengine.org/forum/files/cheatengine-x86_64_rwmorkye1l_199.png like this for ex. you change assembly code of the game

[orchid frigate]

Not just getting through it

[next lotus]

and i cant do this bc i dont assembly

[next lotus]

yes thats why it takes a while to make mods

[orchid frigate]

I can easily get through a check but finding the code required some insane knowledge in Reverse engineering

[main brook]

you just get the value

from the memory register

and change its value

says the person who used cheat engine since 4

[orchid frigate]

When

If you do it too early

You might just break the program

Too late

[main brook]

i get that

[orchid frigate]

The check is now gone

[main brook]

you need timing

[orchid frigate]

Or

You can brute force it and so it on every instruction

:)

[next lotus]

also you can use pointer stuff

[orchid frigate]

Me going through a 10g program to do that:

[orchid frigate]

I love pointers

What pointer stuff

[next lotus]

you couldve dug deeper and now you're earning thousands a day bypassing steam vac

[main brook]

help

why is gpu so goddamn expensive

[next lotus]

because gpu

[orchid frigate]

Because

[main brook]

a normal 4gb vram cost like $250

[orchid frigate]

Gpus are bad

I hate gpus

[main brook]

do you like igpu

[orchid frigate]

Every since learning that each one of them needs its own driver

I hate them

Useless gadgets

Noone needs graphics

[main brook]

teue

i can just

use the motherboard directly

for dvi

[orchid frigate]

@next lotus you said something about pointersc

What is it

[orchid frigate]

Fuck it just use VGA

[main brook]

literally that

its the most common way

and cheap

[orchid frigate]

Plus vga drivers are

[main brook]

i realized hdd are cheap

1TB for like $40

[orchid frigate]

Probably the most simple drivers in existence

They take like

10 minutes to fully implement

[orchid frigate]

Yea and then gta takes 20 minutes to load

[main brook]

duh

i mean like

[orchid frigate]

And rust

Half a day for the map alone

[main brook]

there's an M.2 SSD here that cost $50 for 512gb

plus $40 for 1TB with 7200rpm

is good

[orchid frigate]

Im not gonna lie when I tell you this

Im really bad with hardware

Like

Awful

[main brook]

is fine

[orchid frigate]

I just know ssd fast hhd slow

And cpus

I just know the newer the better

[main brook]

nah

as much as you're concerned

Intel axeon perform so much better

[orchid frigate]

Intel axolotl

[main brook]

mfs pulling 4.4ghz on base

with 135TDP

[main brook]

axolotl

[orchid frigate]

Rare footage of intel releasing intel axolotl to the public
https://c.tenor.com/aSiGglyQ5W4AAAAM/axolotl-smile.gif

Anyway where the fuck did bill gates go

[main brook]

its xeon

not axeon

[orchid frigate]

He said something about pointers

I want to know what it was

[main brook]

pointers are dumb

[orchid frigate]

BRUUUU

Pointers are my favourite feature

In any programming language

Without them idk how to work with stuff like arrays

I use them instead of arrays (even tho arrays are just pointers made fancy in c)

[main brook]

how is pointer stores

stored

don't you need a separate memory address

to store the memory address

[orchid frigate]

That....

I havent thought about that

This seems so simple yet so stupid

Now im questioning what pointers are

[main brook]

great

its the self referencing paradox

[orchid frigate]

Ok so the pointer to an address is like

The entry to a memory address

[main brook]

pointer points to an address

and that pointer need a memory to function

so it should have its own address

[orchid frigate]

Rei why did you do this

Oh the humanity

[main brook]

im major in philosophy

[orchid frigate]

Ah

Now I understand

You can have a pointer to a pointer

But that doesnt help

[main brook]

if you can have a pointer that points to a memory address

wouldn't that pointer have its own pointer

because a pointer needs memory address to work

and so on

[orchid frigate]

You can have a pointer to a pointer

So yes

It does have its own memory address

We solved the unthinkable

[main brook]

but doesn't that pointer

need its own memory address

it just doesn't end

[orchid frigate]

Wait no fuck

Wait im so stupid

A pointer's memory address

Is the address it points to

Jesus that shouldn't have been that difficult to solve

I work with these every day and still get confused by them

But anyway I actually had a mini breakthrough recently

Yesterday I managed to implement a fat12 driver to my os

So its files time

[main brook]

nice

why not fat16

why 12

[orchid frigate]

Its the smallest

And simplest

I can fit it in 500 bytes which I needed

Because it needs to fit in the bootsector to find the kernel

But damn it took so much work

Writing it in assembly didnt help either

Next goal is to implement fat32 and maybe some really complex filesystem like ext3

But thats gonna be in the far future

[main brook]

just do

ext2

or ext1

but ext1 doesn't have journalling

iirc

[orchid frigate]

Maybe

But I will improve the fat12 one first

Currently it only reads files

I want it to make files edit files and access directories

All stuff which I think I can implement but might take me a week

[main brook]

just make it read write files

directories are prolly just files

but with extra data

a dir is never 0byte

it always has few

[orchid frigate]

Dirs are seen as files yes but

I still barely understand the reading part anyway

So im just gonna make it extra complicated to understand everything

[main brook]

well

[bold rover]

Rei

[main brook]

a file descriptor is a file that represents something

like to a stream

that's not a file

but provide a similar api

[main brook]

hi kia

[bold rover]

Helo

[main brook]

what is it

[rose pawn]

So rei

Total likes in july 44.306

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This info means nothing to you

But numbers are cool

[main brook]

that's cool

[orchid frigate]

Either im missing something

Or thats not how fat12 works

In fat12 we have a root directory segment which has all the file entries

And a data segment with the file data

I know most of the calculations but I dont get how you turn a directory entry address into a data segment address

And two other segments which I dont care about

Also rei

Idk much about filesystems so give your opinion

Which is better

Fat32 or exfat

Im thinking about which to implement

[mystic ledge]

can someone make me a mod that makes a leaderboard of kills for npcs?

[main brook]

fat32 is inferior to exfat

extfat stores longer filename

also higher size

[next lotus]

im nowhere

[rose pawn]

Hello billa gatse

[orchid frigate]

After doing some research

I picked fat32

Easier to implement because the header is almost the exact same as the fat12 header

And exfat doesnt seem worth it

It doesn't seem much better

Bruuuh ext2 is so goddamn complicated

So many headers

Wait fat was written by bill gates

@next lotus You did this?

[next lotus]

wdym im so skinny

[orchid frigate]

Well yes

But you apparently wrote the fat filesystem or designed it

So you must have been fat at some point

[next lotus]

hmmmm i believe so

[main brook]

i code but im still skinny

help

[orchid frigate]

You can be skinny and code

But you cant have coded FAT and not be fat

Its a simple rule

[next lotus]

but how about ntfs

[next lotus]

i should

go home

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/893598132854734848/1006466754400227381/unknown.png

[knotty root]

do u need programming knowledge to hack?

[next lotus]

obviously

unless you want to run scripts with 0 knowledge of what's behind it yea

[knotty root]

whats query?

[next lotus]

what

[barren shale]

well when you have a class for each type of packet

you are going to have a lot of files

[knotty root]

can u program an ai with c++?

[rose pawn]

They will say yes

[barren shale]

you can

but why would u

[next lotus]

how else should i put it

[next lotus]

you can do everything with any language

[barren shale]

idk

generic packet

with a factory

[next lotus]

i have an insane idea

make everything dynamic

:)

[knotty root]

is ai hivemind possible?

[next lotus]

.

[orchid frigate]

Whats ai hivemind

[next lotus]

drone ai

[knotty root]

nvm I got all

[orchid frigate]

My peoject looks similar

But filled with folders

And alot of files with random extensions

Most of which I dont remember what their purpose is but im too afraid to delete them

Because makefiles

[orchid frigate]

But what you doin

Is that a personal project

[next lotus]

no

multiplayer mod for another game

[orchid frigate]

Ah ok

Couldnt tell because the screenshot had a few pixels on each row

And column

[knotty root]

how small can nanobots gets smaller?

[next lotus]

imagine doing all the network stuff and

parsing these

xml and json at the same time :(

[orchid frigate]

I dont understand shit

But im happy im looking at it

And thats all that matters

[orchid frigate]

Idk

They can probably get very nano

[knotty root]

looks beautiful, might learn programming later

[next lotus]

same, i dont understand shit too

[orchid frigate]

You probs understand the syntax atleast

You have to understand thay

I have never

Ever done anything html or xsm

X...

Xml

Thats the one

So this looks like giberish

Also a lil question

Is there a way to control a local git repository when im not in the same os as it but in the same computer

Im downloading euro truck sim so I dont wanna exit windows but I wanna push my code to the repo

[next lotus]

you want to transfer a git?

upload it to github

[orchid frigate]

I dont

Understand that

The only thing I know in git is you push when you want your code to go into repo

Add when you add to the local repo

And...

Thats it

[next lotus]

i have no idea either

bc

we have uh these

we just push buttons whenever we want to commit, push and pull

idk how it works on terminal

[orchid frigate]

Yoo that looks sick

[hoary hound]

still using master

[next lotus]

i love master

its like

naming my branches slave

[hoary hound]

to each their own

[barren shale]

smh master

imagine master instead of main

[next lotus]

master > main

main is just

main

master is uh,

on top of the heirarchy :)

[hot wagon]

Breathe

[rose pawn]

Hhhhh

Ooooo

Hhhhhh

Oooooo

[orchid frigate]

I like how half of the people here have no idea what they are doing here

[formal hearth]

programming.

[stable hawk]

yea, like me

Eclipse =

Java =

[next lotus]

🤢

java

[stable hawk]

no

Me during Java programmation: 😎😎😎

[rose pawn]

Im getting people to do the programming reasearch for me

I used to

Now i just shittalk

[amber monolith]

yes, especially assembly. Although it depends what you want to do

the software to do it properly is very expensive aswell unfortunately

[wet girder]

yes but ignore this bullshit ^

You need to understand code

It makes it 1000 times easier

[wet girder]

https://tenor.com/view/wtf-geezer-gif-22707986

it's literally free

skiddie tools might be paid for

but skiddies are a disgrace

[amber monolith]

Ida pro makes reversing.

Literally 1000x times easier

x64dbg etc are free but doesn’t actually show any of the function paths to understand properly

for instance if I was patching software or something I’d need to know how the logic works out and it isn’t really shown properly in x64dbg

maybe you are thinking of a different kind of hacking? it’s a very broad spectrum so

if all you want to do is maybe some sql injections on websites then no it’s def not needed

[next lotus]

it depends but you dont need a knowledge that deep

if you just wanna pentest you can do that with pretty much any programming language

[amber monolith]

Yeah having a mind for it will help you more than coding.

[distant needle]

I'm working on a simple compiler that lets you use C++ for WorldWox modding 😄

[tardy snow]

Random interjection wouldn’t modding be a lot easier on this game if someone made a launcher where you can pick your game version like they have on Minecraft? Is it that hard to make one or is it just not really worth the time

[next lotus]

modding for worldbox?

sure, you first

[wet girder]

I'm pretty sure the devs would need to do that. But #🔧modding-talk knows better

[hollow bronze]

why tho? dont like c#?

cause theres a loader for C# built into the game

[hollow bronze]

all you'd have to do is use steam depot downloader and download an older version of the game (requires you to login through steam obviously), but there really isn't just like a load of mods to be worth going back versions

and also this only works for all the steam releases, anything older the devs would like have to officially put out there, or else we're trusting random downloads from people

maybe more useful for minecraft since how old and how large it is

[hollow bronze]

you not used Ghidra? maybe a little less intuitive, but its open source and from the NSA

[amber monolith]

never heard of it, i leech Ida pro off of my brothers uni and I reckon any workspace dealing with cyber security would have a commercial license anyway

[hollow bronze]

open source ftw

[amber monolith]

inevitably I find I end up using tonnes of different anyway, like ollydbg mostly for signatures and x64dbg for assembly to pseudo

each one has its uses

does ghirda have a function map

what I use Ida for is mostly that so I guess it could be a good alt

for people that don’t have a license

[amber monolith]

please use manual mapping bro 😭

[timid field]

i spent 2 hours making some blender 3d obj that looked fine in blender but when i open it in unity literally %75 of the obj is like gone its like shattered pieces 😭

[night crag]

Grand Canyon

[orchid frigate]

Grand Canyon

[mossy cedar]

Grand Canyon

[main brook]

Grand Canyon

[wet girder]

your faces are the wrong way

[timid field]

I have double-sided on should i turn it off

[dim sky]

I want to be able to install in-game mods on my phone.

[cloud solar]

a game

i was working on for a year

finally released

||i wanna die||

[rose pawn]

Yay

[next lotus]

Newtonsoft.Json

[cloud solar]

[cloud solar]

yay indeed

[mossy cedar]

name?

of the game

[cloud solar]

in dms

[rose pawn]

Can you guys tell me some 6 digit funny or interesting numbers

Like 694200

[cloud solar]

691019

[knotty root]

which language is best for ai programming?

[mossy cedar]

Python

Tesla uses it in their autopilot system

[knotty root]

is it possibke to download data directly to the brain?

[timid field]

where game

[orchid frigate]

To do that

We would need a bytes to neurones or whatever is in the brain converter

And we only understand the bytes rn so

As of rn no

[knotty root]

but possible in the future?

[amber monolith]

I’m studying both computer science and biology + further at A level

I think it is possible

however everyone’s brains are “wired” differently with different neural links that completely change how the brain manages itself

[knotty root]

wanna create an ai hivemind?

[amber monolith]

no proper experience with ai yet unfortunately

getting employed by someone soon that works with an ai though

[cloud solar]

I can dm u the link if u want

[orchid frigate]

I have been interested in ai and I wish I could make one but

I hate that most ai is in python

As I'm not a huge fan of it

[barren shale]

python is a really good language

very easy to work with

can be very fast if used correctly

[orchid frigate]

Ik but

I just dont like ot

I also hate the syntax

If im doing something high level its gonna be in rust

[next lotus]

no

[orchid frigate]

See bill gates gets it

[next lotus]

python is skid language

[orchid frigate]

@next lotus whats your opinion on rust

[next lotus]

idk, never tried it, maybe when it has a good ui library yes

[orchid frigate]

Crate*

[next lotus]

but i do love to write native code

[orchid frigate]

I love rust and thats why you have to love it with me

Thats how language fandoms work

[next lotus]

alright

rust is epic now

[barren shale]

can be

it also can be giga chad language

[barren shale]

i mean if you wanna use python for ai you're gonna type like 100 lines of code and that's it

all that matters in AI is the data and the model structure

[amber monolith]

could u slide me some shellcode? been meaning to get into ai for a while

[barren shale]

i cant

havent done it in a long time

use tensorflow or pytorch

tensorflow with keras

pytorch is just pytorch

tensorflow can be used for any matrix multiplication thing not just AI stuff

pytorch is AI stuff

[amber monolith]

ah ok,I’ll have to watch some yt videos about it or just paste some splice code from gh

[barren shale]

i mean its all just like 100 lines or something

you just need a good database

and experience with structuring models

so a youtube video or some docs would do fine

[wet girder]

I wonder how hard it's to write a story for an indie horror game made by me and 2 other students for school

[wet girder]

With the knowledge we currently have? absolutely not. In the future? Who knows

[barren shale]

writing fiction takes a long time

i used to write a couple of years ago

fiction just takes a long time at least for me

[wet girder]

Well we have 9 months, a team of three and a lot of work hours a week for it so I think I can handle it

[barren shale]

yeah good luck

9 months is pretty good for a short game i assume

[wet girder]

It's 9 months to make any sort of a working game in unity 3d. If it turns out good we'll probably continue working on it and release it but we'll see

We have a minimum of a day per week in school dedicated just for the game

Which is 6-8 hours

And then ofc as we're are nerds without lives, we're gonna work on it more

Okay different topic. What do you guys think of this image

[hoary hound]

why can't I do this fun stuff

[wet girder]

Vocational school is just on a different level lol

I also suppose you didn't see anything weird in the image as you didn't say anything about it

gud gud

[hoary hound]

well I can tell it's probably AI generated

the eyes are a bit weird

[wet girder]

Yeah the eyes are a dead giveaway

otherwise it's really fucking amazing

[hoary hound]

yup, where did you get it?

[wet girder]

nvm the arms are wonky

I was just testing stable diffusion

The arm closer goes from quite fit woman to really really thin womans arm

it looks odd

[hoary hound]

what are you using to make this?

I've always wanted to get into ML but I can't find a decent course

[wet girder]

Not done by me

stable difficusion is a model in beta testing

I personally don't really give a fuck about ai lol

[barren shale]

wtf

the muscles

[wet girder]

yeah

I didn't notice it at my first look

But now it looks odd af

[barren shale]

all of it

hands, chest and forehead

looks off

even neck

[wet girder]

Imo only the arms and above eyes it looks weird

it's otherwise very convincing

[orchid frigate]

Its not just the arms

The face looks like its a chimp

Its like a chimp face in a human body

[wet girder]

ye ye the face is also odd

[wet girder]

Hey

a

[clever shale]

Hola

[next lotus]

looks like something dalle would generate

i mean screw that

everything is generated by ai

even this chat

and the entire world

its generated by ai

[orchid frigate]

We are ai

[hollow bronze]

generated by stable diffusion soon to be open source ™️

The weights are out for academic purposes

[barren shale]

i like reinforcement learning

[orchid frigate]

I like you

:)

[wet girder]

https://tenor.com/view/rob-rob-phillips-below-deck-its-a-love-story-bravo-gif-20106430

[crimson swallow]

I ship

[orchid frigate]

I just fount the best thing ever

idk if im late to the party but

https://github.com/codecrafters-io/build-your-own-x
If you feel like challanging yourself with something very difficult or just are wandering what to code next, try looking into this repository which has many resources on how to make things from scratch

if you need an idea for a project

this thing has you covered

its fucking amazing

[cloud solar]

hi

python good

bye

[main brook]

hi

python bad

bye

[cloud solar]

hi

i dont care

bye

[wet girder]

hi

I love c family languages

cya

[orchid frigate]

top G

[barren shale]

ai solving xor 😎

[orchid frigate]

I have honestly no idea what that does

But it looks cool

[knotty root]

Hello

How can i get good at programming?

[orchid frigate]

By doing it

[knotty root]

Woa i mean... How do i start??

What language do i first learn

Learn first**

[orchid frigate]

Look at this

Pick one topic

[knotty root]

My english its shit sorry

[orchid frigate]

And start researching it

[orchid frigate]

Np

[knotty root]

I have an old c# book

Is it going to help me reading it?

[orchid frigate]

Books are usually very large

Contain alot of info

Some of it useless

J would say just

Start a project of your own

Help yourself with one of the tutorials from that github

[knotty root]

Okay thanks

[orchid frigate]

If you decide to do anything relatively low level

Like language development

Dont

Too complicated

On second thought

@knotty root how much do you want to learn programming

Are you ready to spend hours of reading stuff

Because the topics in there are kinda complicated because they are from scratch

[knotty root]

Im a disciplined person if i want something i am going to spend hard working hours to achive it

I really want to learn it

And be good at it

I see the programming world as very challenging field

[orchid frigate]

Alright then

I like your optimism

You can use this then its challanging but I can assure you if you learn even one of these things

You will already have more knowledge than the average web developer

Frontend atleast

[amber monolith]

😆

[orchid frigate]

What its true

[amber monolith]

yeah i know i agree

[orchid frigate]

Those guys get mad money for centering a div

Whatever that means

But the topics in there are pretty serious

Anyone would be challanged with them

[amber monolith]

html is basically a text editor at this point

like past a certain point

you cant get any better at it

[wet girder]

:)

[orchid frigate]

Nice

[wet girder]

thought it could be helpful

You can add some text to explain the link in yhe message if you want

[orchid frigate]

Html is basically very smart people trying to figure out how to make the lives of not so smart people easier

[wet girder]

Html is gud, css not

[orchid frigate]

Why not

[wet girder]

Have you tried it

it's like a first grader designed it

[orchid frigate]

I did

Once

Thats how I started hating front end

[wet girder]

Exactly

no one likes css

It's fucking awful

[orchid frigate]

Backend seems really interesting tho

[amber monolith]

isnt that for animations and stuff?

[orchid frigate]

Like looking at the repository

[amber monolith]

from what ive seen people can make very appealing stuff with it

[orchid frigate]

I might try making something like a database at some point

[wet girder]

It's for the looks of a website

Pure css isn't that well designed

most people use tools like bootstrap to make life easier

including me lol

[orchid frigate]

But I hate how everyone keeps making everything on the cloud its like stop we need to have some things on the client side

We dont need our text editors to be on the cloud ffs

[wet girder]

Websites are done almost fully client side lol. Would take too much recourses

[orchid frigate]

I mean lile everything

[amber monolith]

ahh ok, im masochistic so i only use primitive d3d or pygame for guis

[orchid frigate]

All services

[wet girder]

Ohh yeah true

cloud is a meme at this point

[orchid frigate]

I heard most new text editors are gonna be on the cloud

[wet girder]

so is Web3 and nfts

[orchid frigate]

Like wtf

[wet girder]

Web services in the cloud to be exact, it's idiotic af

[orchid frigate]

At this point oss might aswell be giant search engines

[wet girder]

Makes sense for some stuff

tho

[orchid frigate]

True

But I just imagine in the future

[wet girder]

The web version of vsc is actually kinda useful if you need to do something on the go

[orchid frigate]

Isnt it closely tight to github

Or does github just have vsc on it because might aswell

[wet girder]

No idea lol

[orchid frigate]

Well anyway ima go work on alox VM

Or play siege

Actually play siege

So bye

[barren shale]

ahhh yes