⌨coders-cave

[mossy cedar]

Based and c# pilled

[next lotus]

alright data science and os development give it to python and c

[orchid frigate]

Actually rust

After learning that you can give linker scripts to rustc

Rust is superior

In oss

[timid field]

Should i stay in unity

Or start trying Godot

[hasty bane]

uhh

dunno enough about godot

but i do know some devs that are considering switching

thanks to questionable decisions by the unity ceo

[orchid frigate]

Wasnt godot the less professional version of unity

Meant to teach you game development

[hasty bane]

dont think so?

its always been a full game engine

4.0 will have vulkan support and a bunch of optimizations

[orchid frigate]

I remember when I used unity

Godot was advertised as a borderline no code game engine meant for learning

But I may be thinking about the wrong engine

[orchid frigate]

Yooo vulkan support thats huge

[next lotus]

what happened

ohh doesnt matter anyways godot supports c#

and its open source

[orchid frigate]

Does it support rust

[next lotus]

no but it supports c++

and c

and c#

[orchid frigate]

It does tho

There is even a godot-rust book

[orchid frigate]

I like these languages

But

I have written so much in them

They have become so

Goddamn

[next lotus]

but its bindings

[orchid frigate]

Boring

To write

Goddamn

[next lotus]

thats not because of the language

thats because of the project lol

what are you writing

[orchid frigate]

No

[orchid frigate]

I think we both know

But like

Idk

Its just they have become boring to write mainly because they are so simple

[next lotus]

but gets the job done

easily

and fast

[orchid frigate]

Everything you write feels like you are just rewriting the previous thing with different numbers

And without std

It becomes worse

[next lotus]

write c# then lol

[orchid frigate]

Actually

Someone made an os

In c#

Ans ran doom on it

Absolutely insane

[next lotus]

abuse generics

wtf

did they implement their own .net runtime as kernel???

[orchid frigate]

They just used a compiler

And got rid of the entire ats

Std*

So it was just

C++ with like two more features

[next lotus]

il2cpp 2

[orchid frigate]

What dat

Idk but it sometimes feels like

[next lotus]

its a unity thing, converts your c# code to c++

basically they implemented the same

[orchid frigate]

Rust was made for os dev from the start

Like its insane how a modern language can be so low level in compulation

[orchid frigate]

Nah I think they just used some c# compiler

Lemme check the os dev wiki

Bruh

It says "write your own compiler for c#"

Nah there aint no way

Ok so the other article says

To turn the .cs file to an executable

Then convert to machine code

Basically c++ with extra steps

[next lotus]

wait..

did someone

write a c# compiler to machine code

[orchid frigate]

Someone wrote a c# compiler for.exe

The tools are weird af

Never seen em before

Wait this feels like a windows only tutorial

Bruh I just searched

There are compilers for html

You can turn it into machine code

And technically turn it into a kernel

[rigid mulch]

Unity converts your code? I thought just the engine internally was C++

[next lotus]

not sure

but there are options for building

it can be mono or il2cpp

[true void]

Donde puedo descargar mapas

😩

[orchid frigate]

Wrong type of code

[quiet canyon]

Wkwkwkk heck world boxs

[rose pawn]

How can i decode data

[hasty bane]

have you tried googling it

[mossy cedar]

decode your mother

[orchid frigate]

Decode from geometry dash

[next lotus]

geometry dash

jesus

im a god at that game

[orchid frigate]

Hardest?

[next lotus]

no

i dont play gd, i make mods

turned it into a multiplayer game

[orchid frigate]

Was it good

Like was it fun

[next lotus]

lol im a bad maintainer

i wasnt able to

maintain the project

[orchid frigate]

Thats sad

:(

[rose pawn]

Tell me a joke

[main brook]

fun fact gd is made with c++

or something

[swift fern]

why does the little girl fall off the swing

cause she hasn't got arms😂😂😂😂

[rose pawn]

AHAHAHAHAHAHAJ

[next lotus]

cocos to be exact

[drifting sequoia]

What type of code is this for

Also

What type of code is worldbox made with

[next lotus]

wdym code

c#?

[drifting sequoia]

Ye

[main brook]

what type?

mans gonna make haydot tell you every single type of coding language paradigm

[next lotus]

hes new

[next lotus]

damn

python is slow af

like cmon im just trying to loop through 30k objects its not a problem with compiled langs

why is it taking more than 1 minute

[hasty bane]

Yes

[next lotus]

i cant believe this

[hasty bane]

python is so based it refuses to loop through objects

if you look into the source code for a for loop it actually checks if the collection is a bunch of objects and fires a time.sleep(1) per iteration if it is

[next lotus]

jesus

[orchid frigate]

1. Youermsismmom

[tender hornet]

Anyone here use max2d? If so how do you decelerate objects instead of the object completely stopping when you let go of the joystick

[next lotus]

BRUH I SWEAR

why is this taking forever

[hasty bane]

^he didnt believe me

[orchid frigate]

python people

why do you have these brackets [] with strings inside

that seems wrong

also

hwo tf do you index by string

like row["transaction_date"]

[hasty bane]

will he give me coding advice

[mossy cedar]

stack overflow bruh

thats where most of my work's source code come from

[next lotus]

welcome to dictionaries

[wet girder]

I love dictionaries

they're the best thing to ever exist

[rose pawn]

I cant use them

[hasty bane]

i second this

[orchid frigate]

so

how do you index by them

I like using pointers to keep stuff in

[wet girder]

you can index with normal index numbers but you can also use like the name of the data

like row["transaction_date"] would find the info about transaction date no matter how many things and where they are

row = { transaction_date: "somedate" }

[orchid frigate]

oh

so like enums

but

with every data type

[wet girder]

more like json

[orchid frigate]

pointers better

[wet girder]

nah

I was looking at universities to go to after vocational school and I found one that offers courses on OS development

That could be good a choice lol

[orchid frigate]

jupe

os dev

:)))))

yes

[wet girder]

courses you can choose from

these are the required courses

[orchid frigate]

computer graphics

what is that

work with apis

?

[wet girder]

that's the bachelors done then and then you can do master of science in something you want to specialize in

[wet girder]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[orchid frigate]

hmmm the fact they dont specify os what scares me

cuz it could mean anything

[wet girder]

Also if I feel like getting a PhD after university, this university would be the best choice to choose for bachelors and masters

[wet girder]

tru lol

[orchid frigate]

also oss in which ring

if its ring 1 ok

ring 3

useless

[wet girder]

lol

[orchid frigate]

imagine its just

system programs

and you just study the linux kernel

pain

[wet girder]

lol

this is a more intresting choice tho ngl
https://taltech.ee/en/cyber-bsc

just imagine how cool it would be

and then advance to this
https://taltech.ee/en/cyber-msc

it's outside finland but free still

because eu pog

holy shit they don't want much lmao

my vocational school had harder requirements 🤣

[orchid frigate]

Hmmm

What do cyber security students learn

Is it like

Top 10 best ways to not let the russian spies in

Or smy

[wet girder]

these atleast lol

it's just all of the important things about cyber sec

how to secure stuff, how to break into stuff

idk

[orchid frigate]

Oh well that seems like the best choice ngl

Cyber sec people are pretty widely needed

[wet girder]

the average salary is almost at 6 grand in finland for those skills

[orchid frigate]

And os stuff is...well last century at this point

[wet girder]

lol

I thought taltech didn't have masters for cyber sec but i was wrong so it seems likely I will apply there

[orchid frigate]

Well gl you will get in tho

As for me....I hope I dont end up getting a computer job of any kind

Or even education in computers

[wet girder]

why?

[orchid frigate]

I like doijg this shit as long as its once a month

And In my own terms

[wet girder]

oh lol

[orchid frigate]

Plus I do os shit

Noone wants that

I recognize this

And thats why I dont care

[wet girder]

I honestly love all IT and I want to get job in it

I also have a second choice tho if I change my mind

[orchid frigate]

What is it

Electronics?

[wet girder]

as I do volunteer firefighting, it'd be easy af to get into professional stuff

[orchid frigate]

Ah

Firefighting is cool

You get to help people

Which is nice

[wet girder]

I have been volunteer for almost 4 years but I haven't helped a single person because I am too young but I do training

[orchid frigate]

Have you atleast helped a cat from a tree

Do firefighters even do that

Or is it just TV stuff

[wet girder]

Very rarely

cats get out of the trees when they want usually

but some cases they have been like cats that need help asap and when those calls actually happen, the cat rarely stays alive

a healthy cat will get out the tree when it feels like it

[orchid frigate]

Hmm ok so its mostly tv stuff

[wet girder]

ye

[orchid frigate]

Well have you been working on any personal things lately

Like projects

[wet girder]

I was starting one project that I want to keep secretive for now as it might end up making me money but I didn't have stuff to solder with so I had to not start it just yet

like basically an electronic device but the whole project is gonna be 90% coding but I can't start before I can solder some stuff

[hasty bane]

dunno if i asked this at any point in the past but
jupe, how do you learn cybersec (sources for reading / practicing etc) @wet girder

that shit's way more interesting than things like web dev lul

[wet girder]

well honestly first of all you have to know how to create stuff with code. Most important step Imo, then you need to reserve the idea. you're not creating you're destroying lol

I have some materials that help you get on the right track with reversing your thinking

lemme get the links

[hasty bane]

thanks

[wet girder]

I sent them to panda once lol

Everything I'm gonna tell you from this point is meant only for educational purposes. You can't use any of this for malicious purposes
Now that I am not liable for anything you do anymore hack the box is one of the best websites to learn the basics and to grasp on the context what hacking actually is https://www.hackthebox.com/
Then this website I found reasently but haven't tested yet seems good for learning about specific attacks https://www.hacksplaining.com/
Then I'd recommend youtubers lifeoverflow because he does very good explanation videos on how actual hacking happens https://www.youtube.com/channel/UClcE-kVhqyiHCcjYwcpfj9w
And networkchuck because he does beginner friendly stuff from linux to networking to MiTM https://www.youtube.com/c/NetworkChuck/

I showed these to panda

[hasty bane]

cant make that joke

xdd

[wet girder]

still stand by what I said

lol

[hasty bane]

saved 🗒️

and yeah no malicious shit obv
that'd be stupid even if you only consider the fact that i have 0 experience in hiding things

[wet girder]

ngl I never learned that much about cybersec, I know some small stuff but the bigger picture is still missing

[wet girder]

ye lol

There are recourses behind those link showing how to hind yourself tho

there's all kind of cool shit

especially in hackthebox

I love hackthebox

[hasty bane]

i think i was on hackthebox once actually

but didnt really do much

hmm

i wonder if i should try practicing with vms later

gotta read this stuff first though

[unkempt ferry]

Do you know how to make a character

?

[cloud solar]

this channel is not for wb

so if u mean wb haracter, ask in help

[wet girder]

I was watching modern family like I always do this late. I was really enjoying a good episode until there was some shit about computers that made absolutely no sense and lost interest in the episode

[drifting sequoia]

Which codes is WorldBox made out of? Python, Java...

[wet girder]

C# with Unity

[hasty bane]

i like it when shows / movies say or do stupid shit

it's funny

[wet girder]

it makes me feel physical pain

[next lotus]

i just

saw the unity drama

and maybe

its time to use godot

lol

[wet girder]

lol

I don't think it's gonna change anything in unity ngl

[hasty bane]

we'll see ig

i def dont like the direction the company's going in

[wet girder]

I have to agree with that

luckily I'm not gonna do game dev professionally so I don't really even care that much

[hasty bane]

game dev is hell

and now the devs are going to put up with possible bs from the unity corp

[wet girder]

unity is trying to make game dev even more of a hell it seems lol

[tacit jasper]

👀

[rose pawn]

Is it possible to make a computer power enough to simulate a reality to its atoms and particles

Also

If you had that kind of computer

Could you simulate future before it even happens

[wet girder]

to what we know now, no

might be someday. We could never know

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[wet girder]

also no, you can make educated guess' without it and it doesn't help with that

[next lotus]

i love being able to get the fields and properties inside the class on runtime

reflection too good

(low level langs cant relate)

[silver prawn]

wait

this chat exists?

lmao

cool chat ig

[next lotus]

it doesnt

go back to #🌎general

[silver prawn]

no it does

[orchid frigate]

So recently I have been interested in ai and machine learning because

Configuring cargo to generate non specific elf executables is pain and suffering

And I wnana express that suffering in a ai generated picture

Anyone have any resources on these things?

Any language is good

[orchid frigate]

With graphics or just the calculations behind the physics? With graphics, absolutely not not even close

Just the calculations? Still no but a bit more possible

Even the most powerful super computers are not even close to that level of power

[silver prawn]

Just bought the domain name for my services :D

solidevelopment.com

i can’t imagine I found a .com domain name almost perfectly matches my business name :D

bought it for $4 lmao

Rate this website

This is the website for that domain

[silver prawn]

I recommend JavaScript

JavaScript can do anything these days

But I don’t recommend using it for everything

[silver prawn]

For AI I have tried brain.js

And it’s amazing

But it lacks the damn image recognition

i saw tensorflow

but it’s kinda hard for me to understand

[next lotus]

welcome

[next lotus]

oh no

wait who is that guy who hates js again where is he

[silver prawn]

i hate JavaScript but it does everything

[silver prawn]

Everyone?

[jovial flax]

Then why you hate it?

[next lotus]

@knotty root

[silver prawn]

Because it’s fucking hard to understand

[jovial flax]

Thats just how life is sometimes\

[silver prawn]

It’s all aync

[next lotus]

i can write you an entire 10 pages essay why js is shit

[silver prawn]

I hate life too

[next lotus]

but ill just send this as summary

[silver prawn]

of course

All people are ready to write essay why js is shit

[next lotus]

js types are just

[silver prawn]

lmao

[next lotus]

thats why people a invented typescript

[silver prawn]

To give heart attacks?

[next lotus]

why

[silver prawn]

Oh thought you said js

typescript is cool

Easier to understand for me

i did that once

[next lotus]

ofc its made by microsoft

everythinf by microsoft is cool

[silver prawn]

but not forcing people to stop using windows 7

[silver prawn]

i haven’t paid tho

I closed the account

fuck the $50K

[orchid frigate]

I have programming knowledge

I just need like documentation on some library, api or even just raw theory behind the making of an ai

[silver prawn]

Brain.js

Is easy to understand

check it

[orchid frigate]

ok

I will check it out

thanks

wait js is interprated right

[next lotus]

WHY JS???

pls

c#

[orchid frigate]

I know its bad but

I dont like c#

too many oop things

[next lotus]

why

but you can write functional too

what ai are you making

[orchid frigate]

I want it to be more functional

image creation or whatever its called

image generation

[next lotus]

then do ml.net

[silver prawn]

sorry for the betray but brain.js is good

[orchid frigate]

thats it

is there like

[next lotus]

well i hate to say it but

python kinda wins there

[orchid frigate]

any theory only documentation

[next lotus]

try playing with stylegan first

[orchid frigate]

behind ai

im kinda used to reading very raw documentation

[next lotus]

i have one

this one is not a documentation but

should give you an overview how the history of GAN or neural networks that make stuff

https://www.gwern.net/Faces

also this video

[orchid frigate]

also is there maybe any way I can work in a compiled language

[next lotus]

you can write your own

https://youtu.be/Wo5dMEP_BbI

this guy

he's the most helpful one

[orchid frigate]

python :(

[next lotus]

its python but i write along in c#

nono

the code is basic af

[orchid frigate]

eh I can just translate the code to rust

[next lotus]

you can code along in any language

[orchid frigate]

rust

rust

[next lotus]

its just simple array and maths

after getting the gist of it you can use apis like tensorflow

USE TENSORFLOW

pytorch is limited to only python

tensorflow WORKS everywhere

i mean

tensorflow has implementations on any language

[orchid frigate]

I will check if it has a wrapper for rust

[next lotus]

be it cpp, c#, python just about anything

there should be one in rust

[orchid frigate]

CPP

YAAAY

we love C

[next lotus]

but yeah you should start writing your own from scratch first so you get the gist of how things work

[orchid frigate]

so it will be similar to how I started with oss

I started writing the bootloaders myself

then started using others

[next lotus]

yes but look you cant just

rewrite an entire machine learning library

[orchid frigate]

I wont have to use too much std right

im not used to using libraries

[next lotus]

thats you vs 100+ mathematicians, engineers, scientist working on tensorflow lol

[silver prawn]

I love rust

[orchid frigate]

ah yes there are bindings for rust

epic

[silver prawn]

rust is very fast

i love the speed of it

[orchid frigate]

idc about speed I just care about how fucking good its structures are

like

its amazing

[next lotus]

also you need a algebra library rust should have that or you can write one

[silver prawn]

True

[orchid frigate]

better than C even

[silver prawn]

It’s easy so easy

[silver prawn]

In everything

all languages couldn’t beat C in the speed

Now RUST BEARS THE HELL OUT OF C

[orchid frigate]

I will write it myself

[silver prawn]

in everything You can make an entire OS on rust only

[orchid frigate]

I want to write everything myself

[silver prawn]

No C shit

[next lotus]

dont forget this guy he makes a lot of good shit he's so good

[silver prawn]

Not safe

[orchid frigate]

I have quite some experience in that

considering

I am making one rn

but its targeting sucks

[silver prawn]

Cool

[silver prawn]

lol

[orchid frigate]

if its not a os specific target

it tells you to go fuck yourself

[silver prawn]

I want to make OS so it can fit my needs

[silver prawn]

LMFAO

I’m sure that will fit your needs

[orchid frigate]

about that....

[silver prawn]

I want to make an OS that logs everything

[orchid frigate]

to make an os that functions semi well

[silver prawn]

because it’s going to help me

[orchid frigate]

you need to spend...5 years

minimum

[silver prawn]

normal

[next lotus]

im telling you man, machine learning is the future, one day everyone will lose their jobs bc of ai

[orchid frigate]

there is so much shit in oss that you never get to see

[silver prawn]

not true

Because there will always be a limit

[orchid frigate]

so many data structures that are hidden in memory

[silver prawn]

To computers

unlike humans

[next lotus]

no

NO

[orchid frigate]

so many drivers

[next lotus]

humans have the limit

[orchid frigate]

its insane

[next lotus]

machines dont

[silver prawn]

Machine do

Mark my words

[orchid frigate]

the worst part is

for graphics

[silver prawn]

AI will not replace humans

[next lotus]

humans csnt live more than 100 years but that server is still running

[orchid frigate]

you need to make a driver for every single graphics card

because

opengl

sucks

[next lotus]

os dev moment

[silver prawn]

Because it’s being monitored by humans

[silver prawn]

LMFAO

i will use one GPU

[orchid frigate]

you dont have to make em

[silver prawn]

why the hell would I put RTX 3060

[orchid frigate]

but then

you cant use gpu

[silver prawn]

In a server

[orchid frigate]

I think opengl requires all of them

to run well

and you will be using opengl 100%

unless you want to write your own graphics api

which would be...

insane

like genuenly insane

[silver prawn]

except for speed accelerated severs

[silver prawn]

Yeah

if I try to write that well ima die before I finish the OS

only the Queen Elizabeth would be able to write it tho

[orchid frigate]

finish is a hard word

[silver prawn]

she has unlimited lifetime

[silver prawn]

Kinda

[orchid frigate]

to make something like linux bare metal

you would need

10-20 years

[silver prawn]

easy I will teach the Queen to make it

[orchid frigate]

less if you are experienced

[silver prawn]

she has unlimited lifetime

[orchid frigate]

more if you have no idea what you are doing

[next lotus]

imagine writing an ai on ring 0 os imagine how fast is that

[orchid frigate]

bro

BRO

[silver prawn]

Ah yes I wrote 5 OSes while we are talking

[orchid frigate]

I CAN DO THAT

WAIT

BILL

[next lotus]

or just an os at ring 0

[orchid frigate]

YOU ARE SO SMART

OMG

[silver prawn]

hm

[next lotus]

there is problem

[orchid frigate]

DOING IT RN

[silver prawn]

rip

[next lotus]

youhave to write display druver for each gpu right

[orchid frigate]

Im still in ring 1 because

ring 3 sucks

so this will be easy

[silver prawn]

AI can’t run without a running OS

but if you make the requirements

For AI to run on minimum

And make the AI make itself

then ok

[orchid frigate]

isnt it just math

why would it need requirments

[silver prawn]

somewhat

[silver prawn]

To get a proper working AI

[orchid frigate]

no

yes

[silver prawn]

huh?

[orchid frigate]

kinda

yes actually

they are all different because

manufacturers suck

[silver prawn]

What’s new

[orchid frigate]

uefi ones dont

[silver prawn]

Or write for one gpu and use it

[orchid frigate]

all of them have the same memory map

and protocols

somewhat

[silver prawn]

Anyway I gtg, rate the website tho

@orchid frigate nice to talk to you

[orchid frigate]

you too

[silver prawn]

have a great day!

[orchid frigate]

0x9/10

ok ima go study ai now

hopefully get it running on os

my os

so that I can brag about it later

[orchid frigate]

bruh

so much algebra

[next lotus]

dwdw

if you get to the video series' coding part

itll be easy

dont get demotivated man look at what you can do with ai lol https://youtu.be/DlsBaQWfE58 its worth it af af

and later you'll watch a video about how AI is dangerous and you'll feel like a god amongst men, you make ai and your code can decide the future of humanity

[orchid frigate]

im an os dev demotivation isnt something I know

[next lotus]

you'll feel like you're the mentos in the coke

[orchid frigate]

also

I really wanna make an ai draw

stuff

myself

without tools

[next lotus]

ohh thats a GAN

[orchid frigate]

like to just give it the words ww3 and it to draw something interesting

that sounds insanely cool

[next lotus]

thats very hard, if you wanna make one youll be competing with nvidia

[orchid frigate]

also ai on os wont work

because obviously

cant draw shit

even with gop

[orchid frigate]

eh as long as its not as bad as learning intel paging

still dont understand this shit

[next lotus]

im not 100% sure with the details of gans bc i dont do gans

butt

[orchid frigate]

they look really cool

[next lotus]

you can try out stylegan3 first

[orchid frigate]

like to just suply words

and it gives you some cool picture

[next lotus]

https://github.com/NVlabs/stylegan3

[orchid frigate]

I can play with that all day

[next lotus]

this only generates but doesnt require an input text

its basic gan you feed it with input and it outputs something you havent seen before

[orchid frigate]

I think ima use this for now to understand how the tool works

see what it outputs

then ima start writing something from scratch

to get a touch of what ai does

[next lotus]

yeah its basic gan

it has functions for training

also uh...

dont forget it kinda needs like

a week to get decent results for a training xD

using the latest gpu at google colab

yeah weeks

[orchid frigate]

thats cool

but

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BUTTT

[orchid frigate]

do I get to know if its training well

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we gave pertained models!!!!!

[orchid frigate]

like can I see whats going on

[orchid frigate]

fuck pretrained I wanna do shit from scratch

[next lotus]

when your human eyes see its decent enough

and dont train too long too

thats where shit breaks

[orchid frigate]

because I dont wanna wait a week and realise

nothing was happenening

it has happened to me

ran a ring 1 random generator that generates numbers from 10k to 10trillion

told it to stop when it generates 100k

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oh GOOD GOOD

thats good

[orchid frigate]

waited a week

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because

sometimes

[orchid frigate]

and realised

it wasnt running because I forgot to run the function

:(((((

[next lotus]

things break, a lot, imagine training for a week and this happens: https://youtu.be/cPRRjY2bwu4

now that ENTIRE week is wasted

mode collapse is when the GAN outputs the same image

[orchid frigate]

tbh thats still kinda interesting

creepy as all hell too

oh god

it gets worse

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if it outputs this

then

you fucked up

[orchid frigate]

oh god

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you have to train again

[orchid frigate]

thats just not good

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oh

you have to get used to it

[orchid frigate]

I will be dreaming these faces tonight

[next lotus]

xDDD you'll see it all the time

wait xDDDDDD

[orchid frigate]

it looks like they were all hit with a stop sign right before the photo

I mean atleast there is definetly no human that looks like that

so mission failed successfully

[next lotus]

the earliest gans output nightmares as well lool

[orchid frigate]

I actually got interested in this because I saw tiktoks of ai drawing basically nightmares

like the last human

last angel

ww2

so on

and realised how fun it would be to have one of those

[next lotus]

same loool

thats dalle

dalle is closed source

you can try this one out, its similar https://youtu.be/M-XNbLNg2Fk

ohwait no its not xD its here https://github.com/lucidrains/DALLE2-pytorch not sure how to use this

[orchid frigate]

ok back took my 3rd shower for the day because

40C sucks

[orchid frigate]

hmmm

lets see

[next lotus]

run this on google colab they have free gpus there

and its like

the latest academic gpus

[orchid frigate]

yea looking at these images im realising

making this from scratch

isnt gonna be...even close to possible

[next lotus]

but even tho its the best gpus humanity ever has, it still takes a long time to train :(

[orchid frigate]

unless I use alot of libraries

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but hey

at least you have the python implementation

[hoary hound]

I mean there are entire research groups behind DALL E

[next lotus]

yep

you vs scientists, engineers, mathematicians

[orchid frigate]

1000 people make windows but Im still chasing them

falling behind

but im chasing

might catch them in the next

1000 years or so

when they start making robots for mass destruction

[orchid frigate]

eh I have been trying to get an excuse to learn python anyway

I feel incomplete without having experience in it

[hasty bane]

making things in it is really fast

the tradeoff is that the things you make arent fast

!usually!

sometimes they can still be fast

[hollow bronze]

@orchid frigate you're getting into territory @bold rover probably knows a lot about

and I say probably, but thats a bit of a lie, more like definetly

i know there are some dalle-2 opensource competition coming out (stable diffusion)

and dalle2-pytorch of course there which has some great models being trained right now

[rose pawn]

If i lived in a 4 dimensional world could i make a computer powerfull enough to simulate a 3 dimensional world to its atoms and particles?

Just calculating not graphically simulating

[hollow bronze]

could you make a computer powerful enough to simulate an earth on a 3D world

at an atom scale, and with our current resources, probably no
eventually? probably

but you would have to know all the atoms, their positions and whatnot to get anything moderately accurate, or if we're making a new one I suppose that doesnt matter so much

if we're just wanting to make reality the simulation ™️ who knows what even we're consisted of to properly simulate it

an interesting idea, im basically giving non-answers, just thinking about all the factors and scale of everything you'd have to have. like what if we tried to simulate everything at a 2d level? I mean possible probably, but insanely large

assuming we had all the information of everything at a 2d level

[rose pawn]

If we did make a computer that could simlulate the entire universe atom to atom the computer would also need to simulate itself since the computer itself is also in the universe but simulating itself means simulating all the calculations happening inside of it and that simulation in itself would also be calculating the same universe in itself

[silver prawn]

rip that means 0/10 right?

[orchid frigate]

Thats a 9/10

0x9 is still nine

0x12 however is not 12

Because 0xC is 12

[orchid frigate]

Idc about how fast they are

I never cared about speed

I just dont like the syntax of python

[orchid frigate]

That would mean it would need to be infinitely powerful

As it would have an infinite amount of things in it

Each one getting smaller and smaller

But wait now that I think about it

64 bit computers dont allow for such a universe to be simulated

Because the 64 bit long mode int limit is like definitely not 10^80

[bold rover]

Mmm?

[bold rover]

There's no usable model checkpoints in there

https://github.com/LAION-AI/dalle2-laion

use this

[bold rover]

definitely not competition, just efforts from different groups

[silver prawn]

Oh YAY

[amber monolith]

so I have an issue with a rad2deg function

my rays keep missing by a fraction of a degree

but only in the -x quadrants

maybe floating point inaccuracy?

[wet girder]

would rounding help?

[amber monolith]

it could do I suppose but the rays have to travel so far in the release I can’t rlly afford to lose accuracy

Ty for the idea tho

im gonna write a rough copy in python and see if I can recreate it

[wet girder]

then it could definetly be floating point innacuracy but there is a possibility some minor rounding could help it

not too sure tho

[amber monolith]

must've been that

the rays where just clipping the edge of the blits

so i just made them overaim just a tiny a bit when in those quadrants

thanks for the help👍

[orchid frigate]

I hate floating points

They always find a way to fuck things up

[main brook]

im again struggling with css

[wet girder]

everyone is

[main brook]

i can use grid just fine

but when i use the debug for mobile screen

it won't adjust the height

so its just the desktop version just smaller

[wet girder]

bootstrap

[main brook]

ew

i use tailwind

[next lotus]

yes bootstrap

tailwin good but it requires npm

[main brook]

plus

i have bad experience with bootstrap with my brother project

[trail zodiac]

i know where you live dicxie

[cloud solar]

what python library let me acess translator?

[cloud solar]

cool

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requests library

[cloud solar]

thank

[next lotus]

a bit more trolling than previously anticipated

[fast saffron]

K

[silver prawn]

lmao

[silver prawn]

yo jupe wassup

[orchid frigate]

We have yet to get an answer

But dont worry Igotchu

Its the opposite of down

🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣

[silver prawn]

lmfao

[knotty root]

haiiiii guz

[quasi mauve]

"coders cove" is much better than "coders cave"

[next lotus]

wehere is the admimisntatrator

[silver prawn]

jupe is online!

[main brook]

coders rant

[next lotus]

you're the 69th person who said that

but fr

this should be coder's cove

[robust ice]

Does anyone want to make a Roblox game with me?

[heavy sable]

coders lonely lounge would be even better

[thin schooner]

What is the programming language of this game?

[silver prawn]

lmao maybe

[amber monolith]

probably unity which is c++

[hasty bane]

c++

c++ .

[hasty bane]

you are not real

[silver prawn]

this chat should be called: "coders-meetup"

[orchid frigate]

Unity is c#

Also

Filesystems are

Surprisingly simple to implement

Easier than paging

Even in theory they are simpler

[stiff swan]

@Dakata#1126

@orchid frigate

@ionic swan

@ionic swan

HEY

[ionic swan]

hi

[orchid frigate]

What

Also

[amber monolith]

no the scripts are c sharp but its compiled in ++ iirc

let me check

[orchid frigate]

Yes

But

The language you write in is cs

[amber monolith]

ok 👍

[orchid frigate]

I wanna talk so

@amber monolith what do you do

Like what dev are yoy

Also

@stiff swan what

Why did you have to ping so many times

[amber monolith]

mostly deal in c++, python for school

atm all i do is work on my nea

[orchid frigate]

Nice

[amber monolith]

im year 12

[orchid frigate]

Fellow low level coder

Wdym year 12

[amber monolith]

sixth form

in the uk

im 17

[orchid frigate]

Cool

What do you do in cpp

[amber monolith]

mostly reverse engineering

but most of that is assembly

[orchid frigate]

Ah assembly too

We will get along well

I so some assembly also but I havent done reverse engineering

Or atleast alot of it

I did some crackmes

But only beginner level

[amber monolith]

I’m sure we will

Assembly is pure pain

I mostly practice on games rn for reverse engineering

not like online

[orchid frigate]

Assembly isnt that bad

[amber monolith]

Mods basically

[orchid frigate]

I like it

Coding in it is pretty chill

You don't have to worry about oop

Or even syntax

[amber monolith]

yeah codings fun

Not all nighters tho def

😭 amount of times I’ve had too because my nea is so big

I like oop

[orchid frigate]

I pretty much only code in all nighters

[amber monolith]

Def makes my life easier

[orchid frigate]

I do this as a hobby

So Im not really like dealing with any boundaries in time

[amber monolith]

ah ok nice

I want to go into cyber security

[orchid frigate]

And when I start coding in like 12 am I usually end up stopping at lile

6

Thinking its 3 lmao

[orchid frigate]

Nice

[orchid frigate]

What

It turns 20 line code

Into 50 line code

Half of it being oop

[amber monolith]

in the long run tho, like if I wanted a button to

do something

Way easier to have it an object to keep its state instead of a variable

[amber monolith]

Same lol

I barely get any sleep ever 😭

[orchid frigate]

I get sleep

I just sleep in the day

Because I play League until 12-3 or code

Then at 6 I go to sleep

Until 3

And at 8 I go out

Perfect summber break

[orchid frigate]

Eh

Cant you just save it in a structure

And then save it

[amber monolith]

No structures in python 😭 atleast not that I know of

[orchid frigate]

WHAT

I hate python then

[amber monolith]

I run the tightest schedule istg

I have to be up at 8 to train

My avg sleep is like 2 hours

caffeine saves me fr

[orchid frigate]

Coding without structures....

This sounds like a nightmare

[amber monolith]

believe me it is

[orchid frigate]

This is why

[amber monolith]

amount of times I’ve considered moving my whole project to c

[orchid frigate]

Rust superior

[orchid frigate]

Yooo lets gooo

Fellow c dev

But tbh

Rust is superior

Have you thought about it

[amber monolith]

I didn’t even know rust existed 😂

[orchid frigate]

Until when

[amber monolith]

About 10 seconds ago 😂

[orchid frigate]

Absolutely

Look into it

Please

This language is sacred

[amber monolith]

does it handle guis well

And complex math

[orchid frigate]

It takes the best of both C and python

And combines it into something beautiful

[orchid frigate]

Yes

[orchid frigate]

Idk

Im an os dev

I don't know these things

[amber monolith]

🙏 im def gonna look into this

[orchid frigate]

Absolutely this language is amazing

[amber monolith]

you make ur own operating systems?

[orchid frigate]

Hard to learn

But its a blessing

[orchid frigate]

Yes

[amber monolith]

damn

how many u made?

or do u just improve on one

[orchid frigate]

Hmmm

The thing is

Operating systems are so big

Finishing one is impossible

For one person

I have made many

But most of them can just print things to the screen

Cuz that alone is multiple hundred lines of code

And countless hours

Of research

My most advanced one can page memory read a memory map take input handle interrupts and

Soon file systems

[amber monolith]

wow

keep up the good work my man

[orchid frigate]

Thanks

This shit hard

[amber monolith]

u ever considered contributing to linux?

[orchid frigate]

Nah

Too advanced for me

And the kernel in its current state is a shitshow

Cant contribute unless you have been there from the start

Or you have read its entirety multiple times

[amber monolith]

yeah i get that, trying to read someone elses code is a nightmare

even small snippets

[orchid frigate]

They talked about switching to rust which would be epic

And I could actually contribute to that

[amber monolith]

where u wanna go with ur os

just learning atm?

or u gonna make windows 2.0 or smth

[orchid frigate]

HobbyOS

Def

[orchid frigate]

That is impossible

Even for a big firm

The windows os probably has a kernel of

Multiple million lines of code

[robust ice]

Anyone wanna help me make a Roblox game?

[orchid frigate]

Considering the linux kernel is like 3 mil

[amber monolith]

jesus, how do they even scroll down that far

the collapse function in vs

[orchid frigate]

Alot of files

Alot alot

Look at the git repository on linux

Its awful

And the namings of the files are even worse

No way to understand which directory is for what

Unless you made it

[amber monolith]

the talent and dedication these people have

to do it for free

and be so active with it

damn