🌐map-discussion

[storm elk]

this is the color palette if including creatures en such

So structures would add a bit more

[celest smelt]

most would be useless

[storm elk]

but due to the fact it's just a specific sprite for each structure

[celest smelt]

maybe flowers or smth

[storm elk]

wheat the only useful one imo

cause 1 by 1

[storm elk]

ah right forgot bout thos

[celest smelt]

yeah but fields decay

[storm elk]

so would flowers on the wrong biome

[celest smelt]

oh wait it can be planted on soil

[celest smelt]

debatable

most structures besides buildings (since they need a kingdom to work right) just dont care where you place them if you force it

keygui lets you

[storm elk]

oh cool

[celest smelt]

yeah theres some weird interactions

spawners on water is probably the most useful one since it functionally makes it invincible if its beyond arrow range

maybe a dragon or ufo, or like lightning could but otherwise i dont think it can be

yeah, you can place flowers on whatever
i'll consider using those as well as like, plants

im not sure if it'd be laggy tho

[storm elk]

I just switched the biome through save editing and the candy_plant died

ok tried putting base tiles in 2nd layer and as expected doesn't even register them

just whatever the set base tile is will show up

[celest smelt]

interesting

ill try and save and load

candy plant seems to be bigger than 1px anyway

[storm elk]

I'm just editing this to mess around with tiles

[celest smelt]

yeah

[storm elk]

and default tile for invalid base be soil_low

[celest smelt]

mushrooms are a really nice color

[storm elk]

ye

[celest smelt]

apparently fire flowers are transparent

[storm elk]

intrestin

additionally when loading a save of this grey goo will behave as normal

[storm elk]

the heck

[celest smelt]

ill try saving and loading this rq

i placed them all using keygui

oh yep they just die

having them being on a biome tile isnt a big deal ngl

[storm elk]

how many colors do the flowers add?

[celest smelt]

each row i showed is a separate layer

[storm elk]

huh candy plants be a grey pixel zoomed out neat

[celest smelt]

candy plants seem to be 3x3

[storm elk]

only the bottom left corner is shown tho zoomed out

[celest smelt]

yeah but that means you cant pack them

[storm elk]

:(

[celest smelt]

oh wait i was gonna try hacking around with the map file to give each row a different tile type but i can just get the thumbnail

[storm elk]

👌

[storm elk]

noice

[celest smelt]

should be in order except missing candy plant and flame flower

starting from desert plant

god its so weird that the tilemap is backward

the first entry is the bottom

[storm elk]

well the game does go from bottom left to right

[celest smelt]

oh the snow is wrong

should be permafrost ig

there

[storm elk]

did ya get all the grass , lemon ,and mushroom plant variants?

[celest smelt]

doubt it

[storm elk]

aight there we go

ok so jungle has an uncommon dark green flowerr

[storm elk]

these 3 biomes share the same plants

[celest smelt]

probably controlled by state

[storm elk]

?

oh the stateID

Ok so for all the flower colors only need...

Grass, Savannah, Corrupted, Swamp, Infernal, Jungle, Arcane Desert, Crystal, Permafrost

have tested for transparency via high and low terrain

it stays the same color

[celest smelt]

do you have like a 2x1 map that works btw? my code is breaking when i do maps that arent square and im trying to figure out why

anything non-square but ideally just something small

oh wait hold on my fucking index is out of bounds lmao

yeah it wasnt the res at all i think

an unrelated issue that very convincingly looked like it was

hell yeah i got it to work
i dont have the ability to change the tilemap in the interface just yet but you can load an image, change the resolution, and create a map with it

[storm elk]

neat

https://codepen.io/Deathrobloxian/pen/pvzvPJj

So guess to do list for this is
Add flowers
and
Custom tiles

agh that'll mean alotta recoding

oh right dithering + heightmaps still bugged

[celest smelt]

currently loading a 128x1 map

or at least trying to

my program struggled to generate it lol

correction, 128x4

[storm elk]

welp time to see if this flower world loads lol

[storm elk]

I hate dealing with the flipped mirrored scanning of worldbox

did it

[storm elk]

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a4/Anatomy_of_a_Sunset-2.jpg/1200px-Anatomy_of_a_Sunset-2.jpg

it's all plant color 👍

"2A8E31","B7375C","20B22B","FFDB56","939393","2BA156","E2932C","A4D646","1F8327","CDC069","20A4AE","61898F"
"green_herb","mushroom","flower","savanna_plant","corrupted_plant","swamp_plant","flame_flower","jungle_flower","jungle_plant","desert_plant","crystal_plant","snow_plant"
'{"state":1,"asset_id":"'+ids_array[minid]+'","id":"b_'+buildings.toString()+'","frameID":0,"health":10,"created_time":0.0,"mainX":'+((i/4)%width).toString()+',"mainY":'+(height-Math.floor((i/4)/width)-1).toString()+'},';

[storm elk]

welp I am a dumbass
I could've been using JSON.stringify the whole fucking time for code.pen.io

pain

'green_herb':'2a8e31',
'mushroom':'b7375c',
'flower':'20b22b',
'savanna_plant':'ffdb56',
'corrupted_plant':'939393',
'swamp_plant':'2ba156',
'flame_flower':'e2933c',
'jungle_flower':'a4d646',
'jungle_plant':'1f7327',
'desert_plant':'cdc069',
'crystal_plant':'20a4ae',
'snow_plant':'61898F'

[bright fern]

anyone know a decent size world map with a bunch of villages

if possible i dont want some cuts

[dusty pasture]

Anyone

Hlep

I cant Download maps

Like

I managed to a few years ago

But it doesnt work nomore

[storm elk]

It took me 4 and a half fucking hours to get it to work again after switching from string shenanigans to this

pain

[true pelican]

Follow this guide to see how you can install and upload maps:
https://the-official-worldbox-wiki.fandom.com/wiki/Maps
@dusty pasture

You can use discord's search function to find what you need in #🌐map-downloads or #🌐✔cool-maps!

1. (If on mobile) be in #🌐map-downloads channel
2. Tap on the search icon in top right corner of screen

• If non mobile user type in:map-downloads and then click on #🌐map-downloads

3. Type in the keyword of map you want to search for in the search bar, and press enter.

• Example: typing earth into the search bar will bring up earth maps.

If still unsure how to use search look at this discord support article: https://support.discord.com/hc/en-us/articles/115000468588-Using-Search
@wanton spoke

[dusty pasture]

It doesnt fucking work

I can paste it to the save file but it doesnt Show up in the game

[storm elk]

is the file still named map.wbox

[dusty pasture]

Yes

[storm elk]

also if just have the map.wbox

that ain't changing the appearance of the save file

it'll just be blue or whatever preview.png was already in there

[dusty pasture]

I paste it into the save file but the old map is still loaded

[storm elk]

ok show screenshot

of the save folder

[dusty pasture]

Map-6.wbox is the one I pasted

Still old map

[storm elk]

delete map.wbox and rename the map-6 to map.wbox

[dusty pasture]

Bruh ok

[storm elk]

this is why i asked this first

game only wants that file name

[dusty pasture]

Ok

Thanks

Im a fool

Eggg

[storm elk]

welp can reduce the filesize by turning the raw byte data into a png lol

[bright fern]

Wow, amazing!

Now people are creating art with maps?

Impressive.

[storm elk]

@bright fern btw the person who made this image be making art in worldbox itself

I'm just messing around with image2map conversion

[bright fern]

👍

[storm elk]

https://codepen.io/Deathrobloxian/full/pvzvPJj

If wanna mess around with image2map without needing to do a #🔁map-conversion command each time

[bright fern]

🙏

Fantastic.

What a nice project.

Progress never stops.

[warm falcon]

I'm 5 of those people

[bright fern]

fatty

[celest smelt]

i made a thing to do it like a year ago and i wasnt even the first

speaking of which

lemme rerecord my example of the image to map cause its low quality

[hybrid imp]

should i post a better quality sneak peak of my next map considering the update hasnt come out yet?

[celest smelt]

you can get a decent amount of colors just from grass types

oh wait i had snowy mountains enabled oops

looks better without it honestly

[woven marsh]

Hey

I'm from Android

How i download maps?

[true pelican]

Follow this guide to see how you can install and upload maps:
https://the-official-worldbox-wiki.fandom.com/wiki/Maps
@woven marsh

[storm elk]

noice

[marble mauve]

[celest smelt]

it's gm-bigcity

the gmod map

[celest smelt]

crossposting this from modding-talk since its relevant to both i'd say

[meager atlas]

Dang that’s sick

[storm elk]

Plants vs no plants palette

[storm elk]

plant added

no plants

same thing as before just using the CIS 2000 algorithm
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Color_difference

[white plover]

-traiteditor

[devout gull]

Does anyone know, like, the biggest map there is? Or at least one of the biggest, cause I wanna play on a one
(if yes, then ping me)

[celest smelt]

supposedly the absolute max is 256x256

i generated a 256x1 map yesterday, if you wanna try it i’ll send it in a bit

[devout gull]

I mean the biggest man-made map there is on the internet for me to download

like terralore or smth

[celest smelt]

ahh ok

[devout gull]

so, do you know any?

[still haven]

Damn 256x256

I got 30x30 and get lag imagine one of that size

[devout gull]

xd

I once tried 100x100.....my game crashed xd

[celest smelt]

not really

here lemme find the screenshot of the 256x1

its basically a ringworld

[devout gull]

dag gad nabbit

[devout gull]

hole mole

[celest smelt]

it’s playable, though putting people on it causes minor lagspikes

[devout gull]

interestimge

[quaint bear]

The maps take RAM memory for the objects existing. And half of that taken by the map would be taken by civs when they store information on your PC - units, tribes, cultures, etc.

The Iceberg map, which already can eat up over 4GB, is a size of 9x9

[celest smelt]

'ram memory'

ngl tho a tile must have a lot of stuff going on for it to take 4gb for an iceberg map

[quaint bear]

Ok then - it takes SHEEP memory

[celest smelt]

i only mention it cause 'ram' already has 'memory' in it

its like saying 'VTOL landing'

[quaint bear]

That is a good question.

[celest smelt]

ive looked at the class declaration but i barely know C#, so i have no clue how much of that is held in memory per instance and how much is passed by reference

[quaint bear]

But do keep in mind that you also have trees, grass, random mobs, preloaded event templates etc.

[quaint bear]

Let me check how much is the vegetation on my World of Dumpcraft iceberg map. Brb

[celest smelt]

yeah, especially since every bit of grass, tree, etc is technically a building

[quaint bear]

my bad it takes about 1.5-2 gb for an iceberg in a clean map with out any civ activity

the vegetation was 15204

[celest smelt]

damn thats a significant amount

i wonder how much of that is sprites

[quaint bear]

Technically the sprite is stored into memory only once, and then accessed for all objects of the same type

[celest smelt]

good

[quaint bear]

at least that is how it should work

some games store their resources multiple times, due to flawed engines

And besides - WBox visuals are even below the 1990s standard size

[celest smelt]

i wonder how much memory and space it would save by just trimming the transparent edges around tiles
highly doubt it'd be enough to bother with the hassle of having tiles with variable sprite sizes

also would be hard to quantify since it's saved as png not as raw data

[quaint bear]

it will barely have any effect on visuals which are about 50x50 size buildings, and 7x7? size units

I dont know the exact size, as accessing resources in this game is quite a tricky part, compared to the modding capabilities in other games

[celest smelt]

counted it out, it'd at most save 28 pixels or 112 bytes

per tile

[quaint bear]

even for the standard of 2017 of an 8GB PC, that would be insignificant

today its 2024. Your average PC has a 16GB

[celest smelt]

yeah'

not really actually practical since it's 8x8 to begin with but a fun idea to toy with

realistically tho you'd probably spend more memory and compute time just sorting out the tiles since mountains, hills, and roads have bits that stick out into the border

oh btw speaking of tiles

theres some tile sprites in the game that i dont think are used
specifically they're grass variants with flowers on them, like as part of the sprite rather than as something on top

[celest smelt]

(replying to this)

lemme get all of them in one image so i can show them

[storm elk]

Holy shit the amount of data indentation alone adds in autosaves is insane

[celest smelt]

indenting with spaces or tabs

[storm elk]

however the game indents

[celest smelt]

hm lemme check

i think it uses spaces

[storm elk]

oof

[quaint bear]

I dont know how many civ chunks an icerberg map have. But one civ chunk is 8x8 tiles

[celest smelt]

oh yeah civs are def laggy

[storm elk]

5184

72²

[quaint bear]

That would be ?x?

[celest smelt]

72x72

[storm elk]

9 x 9 iceberg
is 72 x 72 city chunks

[storm elk]

lol

[quaint bear]

ok so 72x72
And then x64 - 331776 tiles on iceberg

[storm elk]

wut no

(9x64)x(9x64) is tiles on iceberg

[celest smelt]

iceberg is 576 tiles on an edge

[storm elk]

72x72 is city hunks

[quaint bear]

hmmm

[storm elk]

so (72x8)x(72x8) is tiles

[celest smelt]

and yeah it has 331776 ground tiles

[quaint bear]

64 is the tiles in a civ chunk which is 8x8

total tiles per chunk

[storm elk]

Hmmm can you force the kingdom to be any color or no

[celest smelt]

sorta

[storm elk]

so only within the presets?

[celest smelt]

yeah

its stored as a single int

[storm elk]

aw

[celest smelt]

technically 3, but i dont think the other two do anything much

[storm elk]

Well did notice some hex values in a world file

[celest smelt]

hm, where? i can check

oh yeah reminds me, names can sorta use color codes

[quaint bear]

all of those calculations you gave me return the same result

[celest smelt]

works for hover over for unit names and kingdom names, doesn't work in the actual menu though

[storm elk]

village origin color in cultures

[storm elk]

ah i remember seeing that trick on reddit

[storm elk]

Yeah that's the point

cause they all get total tile count of a iceberg world

[quaint bear]

uhhhh ok

I thought you meant that I had the wrong result

[storm elk]

Anyways

[celest smelt]

i originally figured it out since using unity explorer and bepinex console you can see the color codes, cause they dont process them

[quaint bear]

72x72x64 would be the same. It is easier on my brain, since I can calculate it by dimensions

[celest smelt]

hm yeah it does have a hex code but i dont think that would affect the actual village color

ill try modifying it

[storm elk]

https://www.reddit.com/r/Worldbox/s/E92WdDB8qy

[celest smelt]

thats what i figured yeah

ok yeah i changed it and it didnt really do anything

lemme look in the code for culture

also about the map size thing i forgot to mention, do you know where the limit is set? map chunks seem to use regular int for their coordinates

[storm elk]

like i said earlier 256x256 be maximum map size

[celest smelt]

im aware

but im wondering why

[storm elk]

well is a multiple of 2

[celest smelt]

im aware

[storm elk]

so probably has to do with the variable type?

or just an arbitrary number

[quaint bear]

What would one do with such ridiculously large maps?

[celest smelt]

something like a 1024x1 map would probably be fine

[quaint bear]

What is the logic behind having a 1 map size dimension with a 1024 size?

[celest smelt]

ringworld

[quaint bear]

you mean some shenanigans in cody's 3D mod?

how would you bend the flat dimension into a circle? Unless I am misunderstanding something

[celest smelt]

.

[celest smelt]

you dont, it's just reallly long

kind of like how people make 'planets' by surrounding a circle of a biome with mountains

also to be clear i dont really care about making massive maps cause its not like the game can handle stuff that big usually, im just curious

[quaint bear]

it is probably memory limited to 256(0-255) those are hardware stuff which only programming engineers understand

[celest smelt]

im aware

im a programmer lol

its just that i havent seen anything declared as char (well, it'd be byte since c# is strongly typed)

[storm elk]

this what happens when ya exceed the limit btw

[quaint bear]

its an 8bit number it seems. I dont know how much it helps with performance for memory access. Heroes of Might and Magic 3 has that many monster ID limit in its own engine

[storm elk]

268435456 tiles in a world

[quaint bear]

or if it does anything at all for today's computers

[celest smelt]

yeah but the thing is is i mentioned it's not saved as a byte

unless something else is using a byte

thats why im curious

[quaint bear]

can you link me a wiki on that one?

[storm elk]

ok so width and height variables stored as 32 bit integers it seems

[quaint bear]

I am going to read about it

[celest smelt]

its not on the wiki, im disassembling the code using dnspy

[storm elk]

but the textures used to load the map hit some limit

[storm elk]

guess you'll have to find where the texture width / height limit is set @celest smelt

[celest smelt]

can you send the actual log file?

[storm elk]

aight

[celest smelt]

worldbox's console log is atrocious for debugging

barely shows anything

[celest smelt]

awesome

[celest smelt]

bepinex console is good for this btw

you can enable it in the config

wait what the fuck are these names

"ccdbcbcddeecddedbedcbcd:bdecddccecdedeeecbcccee(Int32, Int32)"

[storm elk]

who knows

[celest smelt]

lemme search it

i dont even get a result

this log is fucked

all the hex addresses are 0x0 lmao

[storm elk]

too much height
and too much width

[celest smelt]

lemme try it

i guess i could just do it myself too

[celest smelt]

when i load it i get a different error message

i think its a unity engine limitation

the specific error i get is

UnityException: Failed to create texture because of invalid parameters.
  at UnityEngine.Texture2D.Internal_Create (UnityEngine.Texture2D mono, System.Int32 w, System.Int32 h, System.Int32 mipCount, UnityEngine.Experimental.Rendering.GraphicsFormat format, UnityEngine.Experimental.Rendering.TextureCreationFlags flags, System.IntPtr nativeTex) [0x00021] in <e8ad740a36e94573bdfd43b460604777>:0 
  at UnityEngine.Texture2D..ctor (System.Int32 width, System.Int32 height, UnityEngine.TextureFormat textureFormat, System.Int32 mipCount, System.Boolean linear, System.IntPtr nativeTex) [0x0003f] in <e8ad740a36e94573bdfd43b460604777>:0 
  at UnityEngine.Texture2D..ctor (System.Int32 width, System.Int32 height, UnityEngine.TextureFormat textureFormat, System.Boolean mipChain) [0x00000] in <e8ad740a36e94573bdfd43b460604777>:0 
  at Texture2DStorage.getSprite (System.Int32 pW, System.Int32 pH) [0x0007e] in <48981bcd2f4c43299deecf42053a3062>:0 
  at MapLayer.createTextureNew () [0x0007b] in <48981bcd2f4c43299deecf42053a3062>:0 
  at MapBox+<>c__DisplayClass143_0.<recreateSizes>b__3 () [0x00016] in <48981bcd2f4c43299deecf42053a3062>:0 
  at SmoothLoader.doActions () [0x00051] in <48981bcd2f4c43299deecf42053a3062>:0 
  at SmoothLoader.update (System.Single pElapsed) [0x0005a] in <48981bcd2f4c43299deecf42053a3062>:0 
  at MapBox.Update () [0x00020] in <48981bcd2f4c43299deecf42053a3062>:0 

heres my player.log if you're curious

[quaint bear]

I wonder on such gigahuge maps how does WBox do when going to minimap mode

[celest smelt]

i think thats whats happening

from what im seeing its because the MapBox class is trying to render an image (probably for the zoomed out bit, still looking into it) but unity freaks out because it's too big

[quaint bear]

right

so its basically trying to create a compressed readable map with the "most important" units

[celest smelt]

i think its specifically the like tiles and allat

like how they're all individual pixels when zoomed out

[quaint bear]

funny thing is even Warcraft 3 is limited to 256x256 maps

at least used to be. Not sure how it is with Reforged

[celest smelt]

a lot of the time thats just up to how values are declared

[quaint bear]

I saw you do have access to certain settings through dnspy, but I am not sure if you can modify the minimap for your tests

[celest smelt]

i dnt think i'm good enough at c# for that but maybe

i mainly know py

the weird bit though is that everything im reading says the limit for texture sizes should be 8192x8192
that'd make sense if a chunk was 32 tiles but it's 64 tiles

assuming it is the tile map being converted to an image thats the issue, it would make more sense if the issue happened past 16384 pixels since that's 256*64

[quaint bear]

that would be 1024x1024 civ chunks I think

[celest smelt]

8192x would be yeah

[quaint bear]

basically if you could pre-calculate "majority same tiles" and store the winning tile into a chunk, and then only render the chunks as pixels

or something like it

[celest smelt]

yeah like mc

realistically i dont think this issue is a big enough deal to be addressed since you have to be fucking with the game anyway to encounter it but the obvious fix would just be splitting the texture so that it's within bounds

[quaint bear]

a chunk would be updated only when a change of the tiles happen after that

[quaint bear]

And I dont think anyone has the computer to play above 30x30

I think 26x26 was suggested as a limit for a 16gb PC

[celest smelt]

btw @storm elk whats up with this? did you do this intentionally or is this like a typo or what

cause when i load the map you sent i actually get 2 errors, after the spam about texture sizes i get indexerrors

might be related to the image thing but idk

[storm elk]

ah typo mb

does load up just fine tho due to that index not being called

[celest smelt]

kk

[storm elk]

@celest smelt any hidden tiles other than border_pit and border_water that u know of?

[celest smelt]

not usable ones

there's the glass tile but its unimplemented apparently

i.e its not even in the tiles list, just the assets

[storm elk]

aight

[storm elk]

So all the possible tiles already be known huh

😔

[celest smelt]

yeah

[storm elk]

Hmm gonna see what the tilemap limit is

may as well

[celest smelt]

good question ngl

i imagine it probably wouldnt be limited the same way the size is since i doubt it's indexed

if it is indexed than the limit is probably 256

[storm elk]

gonna try just filling the tilemap up first

the actually using each tile in the tilemap

every single possible map size

took so long to delete folder lol

[celest smelt]

jesus

[storm elk]

Turns out 0 by 0 worlds are loadable lmao

does give rise to some weird effects tho

[celest smelt]

interesting

[storm elk]

ok saving the world and the loading didn't work 😔

[celest smelt]

yeah
ive also noticed uploading to workshop can break a world even if you can load it locally just fine

[storm elk]

aight made a map with all 918 possible mapTiles

[celest smelt]

does it load?

[storm elk]

loads just fine 👍

[celest smelt]

good thing there's pause on load in debug

lemme duplicate the tilemap and see if that loads

[celest smelt]

i edited it to have just 'mountains' 65535 times so i think its safe to say there isnt a reasonable limit

[storm elk]

👍

so that's great for modding

can add as many god damn tiles as u want

[celest smelt]

here i'll try 1,048,576

yep

[storm elk]

it loaded?

[celest smelt]

yeah

didnt even really lag

[storm elk]

aight so limit is just whatever the hard limit of the software and underlying code is cool

[storm elk]

lol the file size

[celest smelt]

22 megabytes when its uncompressed lmao

[storm elk]

nice

[celest smelt]

yknow realistically couldnt you just have every tile be its own entry? lemme try that

like instead of encoding it
might make it simpler at the expense of space

[storm elk]

ig

certainly a just why tho

[celest smelt]

well it'd be a hell of a lot easier since you dont need to worry about grouping it

yeah, it seems to work

[celest smelt]

all the stuff in blue here can be replaced by just the two red lines if you dont care about space efficiency

gives me some ideas on how i can optimize

[storm elk]

👌

welp this how I implement compressing down the tileArray and tileAmounts data

array is a 1d array where each value is a number that corresponds to the tileMap

and what it looks like if 2d python list

[celest smelt]

lol

[storm elk]

amazing

[storm elk]

Hmmm now that i think about...

Definitely can do it via list comprehension

[celest smelt]

ive been using a dict, trying lists now

[storm elk]

dict for the tile array and amounts?

[celest smelt]

yeah and then those are parsed into two lists

[storm elk]

intrestin way of doin it

[storm elk]

ahhh

so ur just doing both together first

I went with the do it stupidly easy of just having a number for each tile in the tileArray
them compressing it later
(which also generates the tileAmounts)

[celest smelt]

think i got a simpler algo to work but ill have to test it more first

yep

i had some trouble before realizing i could just increment the last index of the amounts array for each tile

[bright fern]

wip

[tribal pier]

Can't wait

[opal tapir]

When your done, can you put it on the steam workshop please

I want to have this as a map

[true pelican]

Follow this guide to see how you can install and upload maps:
https://the-official-worldbox-wiki.fandom.com/wiki/Maps
@opal tapir

[storm elk]

can just download without steam workshop

[balmy snow]

Lol

32k

[devout gull]

looks pretty noice, espiecially the archipelago and waters

[lusty basin]

Sorry, I'm talking to Google Translate. Anyway, brother, how beautiful it is, very original. I'm a fan of this type of unique designs.

[devout gull]

Could anyone recommend me any tutorial on yt or smth, on how to make better maps in worldbox? (except the ones that Gorg made, Ive already seen them)

[celest smelt]

for what specifically?

[storm elk]

https://youtu.be/QpMWm65Cm_4

[celest smelt]

if you just mean like shaping land i usually start from the bottom up

i.e i make a blob of close ocean with a big brush, then use a smaller one to make it less blobby, then add shallow waters inside, then sand in that, and so on

[devout gull]

Ive also seen this one

[devout gull]

Everything there is to know specifically

Ive watched all of Gorgs and MrSlimeBoxs tutorials

[static surge]

how do you do image to map

[storm elk]

#🔁map-conversion

or dis
https://codepen.io/Deathrobloxian/full/pvzvPJj

[celest smelt]

i should really get releasing mine too

lemme compile it

actually first i should try and trim down the imports

[static surge]

How do you use the WorldBox to image website because I’m trying to make a Cretaceous period map but it’s just covering everything with mountains

[celest smelt]

oh does that one not let you disable specific tiles?

[celest smelt]

the thing about all these converters is they're generally just trying to match colors, rather than make a good map

[static surge]

There are tons of settings, though that change the map

I’m hoping one of those may fix it

[celest smelt]

once im done with the final few things of mine you can use that if you'd like

it has options to enable/disable any tile

[static surge]

Ok

[celest smelt]

.

i'd release it rn but i dont want to end up having to make two releases in one day because i end up screwing something up

[storm elk]

it does

[storm elk]

what map u using?

[celest smelt]

oh btw if you want it i went and manually made a dict or whatever you would call it in json for all the tile names

[static surge]

A Cretaceous period map

[celest smelt]

im making my project with expandability in mind (so that i dont have a huge headache when the update rolls around) so it loads all the tile data from json config files

[storm elk]

I have a dict referring to the true hex colors of each tile

Then a dict that's generated based on inputs

[storm elk]

ok look at my video then

[celest smelt]

ye i have one for that too

[storm elk]

it shows me messing around with heightmap

[celest smelt]

and also one for the categories

the thumbnail color is different than the map view color in some cases btw

[storm elk]

oh i think this is cause the browser ur using is blocking canvas stuff

[static surge]

I’m using Microsoft edge

[storm elk]

yeah works fine on my end

ok so def the browser

[static surge]

THAT IS THE MAP

[storm elk]

what's the size of the map.wbox download if u attempt to do so?

[celest smelt]

you can just brighten the image a bit and it should stop using mountains

[storm elk]

or just change the hex around

[static surge]

20 by 10

[celest smelt]

yea

[static surge]

how

[storm elk]

how what

[static surge]

How do you change the brightness of the image on computer?

[storm elk]

u download the file and modify it with online tool

or #🔁map-conversion

[celest smelt]

image editor

pretty much any of them will let you

[static surge]

Didn’t really work with the brightness thing it just turned all the sand into snow

[storm elk]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

the image ur using is not ideal for map conversion

so gonna have to do lotta tweaking

[storm elk]

414545,4084E2,55AEF0,F7E898,E2934B,B66F3A,5B5E5C,414545,FCFDFD,A7D6F4,AFF5F1,BAD5D3,D3E4E3,E2EDEC,C1C1C1,A0A0A0,898989,F62D14,FF6700,FFAC00,FFDE00,E1BA5A,E8C76E,FB87A4,FF96B0,533F51,6F556C,5FD6CB,68EADE,76B153,8CDC6A,5F833C,7EAF46,68372D,9C3626,1F7020,46A052,8ACF55,D1E771,556338,677642,B4CFE5,99BCDB,CF931B,F0B121,453E34,4D483E,6C7759,849371,41A840,45C842,858886,9EA6A3,696C02,8F9339,FE1864,EE5183,A30000,7F0000,990000,6D00CD,B43DCC,834C4C,,A8663A,C1997C,,,,,,,,,,,,,

paste that preset in for mostly ocsna

[static surge]

uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh ok

[static surge]

kk

[storm elk]

Hmmm

guess could add a multiple color assignment feature to this

and guess I'll have to add image editing too -w-

gotta take full advantage of canvas elements

[celest smelt]

you could probably do something like what factorio does and encode the preset into base64 or smth lol

[storm elk]

Nah

Cause the point of it not being compressed is being able to edit it

So can just easily make a script to make own heightmap palette en what not
https://codepen.io/Deathrobloxian/full/pvzvPJj

[still haven]

I got a dude 1.how can I make a map with some detailed ocean 2. How can I increase the size of the map 3. How I stop the snow to evaporate

[storm elk]

Use #🔁map-conversion or the site linked above to get snow that doesn't melt

same goes for 2

~expand command if wanna expand an already existing map

[still haven]

Ohh thanks

[celest smelt]

just about done with everything, set up config files, and i even have an icon for missing tile types

and logging

its compiled

51 megabytes 😭

oh wait i need to add the icon time to recompile

[storm elk]

bruh

[celest smelt]

packaging python as a standalone tends to make it kinda big

it’s whatever

[still haven]

What is the name of the app

[celest smelt]

this

[still haven]

can somebody make a map

[opal tapir]

That’s not what I mean…

[hybrid imp]

another teaser to keep yall enticed as we wait!!

[devout gull]

Too squibrellidush for me, but overall pretty noice👍

[still haven]

Who make custom maps of fantasy

[hybrid imp]

yerp its my style of mapping !! i try to avoid straight lines‼️

thankchu

[celest smelt]

whats the island count for the map?

[hybrid imp]

theres two large continents that are able to be settled!! unfortunately the other islands arent allowed to be settled :c though they are pretty large too

[celest smelt]

i meant the internal one

cause it'll count like diagonals as islands (nope, checked, they are counted as part of the same island)

theres a debug view for it

[celest smelt]

lakes, too, i believe

mainly just curious cause its very jaggedy

[celest smelt]

mountains count as their own island oddly enough

[storm elk]

cause impassable :P

[celest smelt]

ye fair

oh i think there's 5 different distinct categories for island tiles
lava, water, regular tiles, mountains, and pits

[hybrid imp]

right!! ill check that soon

[celest smelt]

nvm pits are counted as regular tiles

[celest smelt]

yeah its cool
i think theres a stat for it too?

ye

[hybrid imp]

this map is,, 14x10 i think? i go for detail over map size!!

[celest smelt]

damn nice

i said it in worldbox-chat but ima test what happens if you make a checkerboard of each island category, if the game will lag or what

id love to know what algorithm it uses (i guess i can just use dnspy but a lot of the worldbox code is kinda hard to read lol)

oh another random idea i had @storm elk
idk if you want to try it yourself but it might be possible to do something like rescale a map by just changing the tilemap
for doubling it you could probably just duplicate it but for something more complicated you'd likely need to do something like read the tile data into a pixel array and rescale it

[celest smelt]

i tried it with a 256x256 map and it doesnt lag but now the stats tab says the islands count is 0

making each island 2x2 seems to make it VERY laggy though

still says 0 islands

[signal coral]

Hey, so I recently got the game on my macbook, can anybody tell me how to put my downloaded maps into the game.

[celest smelt]

cool

[main copper]

Anyone has mobile map of the world?

I tryed making my own but im terrible at thay

That

[elder dawn]

is there a tool on this discord to make my map a bigger size?

[storm elk]

I already made a map expander code

Doesn't take much modification to have it scale the tilemap itself

[celest smelt]

nice

[bright fern]

#🌐map-downloads

[steel axle]

does anyone have a deitaled middle east map?

[bright fern]

#🌐map-discussion message

The last two are particularly detailed.

[steel axle]

thanks

[static surge]

Nice

[storm elk]

https://codepen.io/Deathrobloxian/full/pvzvPJj
Added multi color assignment to my image2map converter

[celest smelt]

cool

[storm elk]

this barely looks like earth lol

alternating pixel values

[celest smelt]

im guessing you did modulus by the length of the tile palette

[storm elk]

nah

more dictionaries

[celest smelt]

ah

[storm elk]

thankfully only took a handful of lines added

[steady ivy]

Is there a better way to make forests on mountains other than place dirt in the mountain

[storm elk]

did this so i didn't have to modify the image conversion code at all besides adding that line

[celest smelt]

huh

wait you're doing rgb conversions on the fly instead of just indexing the image? curious

[storm elk]

originally there wasn't the k for loop

[storm elk]

In javascript really the only way i can do it is stepping through each pixel

via a canvas element

[celest smelt]

nice variable names

[celest smelt]

you cant use like a shader or an image library or smth?

[storm elk]

uwu be the only variable name that be nonsensicle now lol

[storm elk]

dunno how + probably won't give me the control i want

especially with the fact that i include flowers

[celest smelt]

to be fair the way im indexing my images is a little cursed too but thats mainly cause of pillow being wierd

i have to create a dummy image with the palette and then use it as an argument to apply the palette to the new image

[storm elk]

https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/API/Canvas_API/Tutorial/Pixel_manipulation_with_canvas

[storm elk]

Yeah did learn that in the process of making an image mosiac python program

[celest smelt]

my condolences that you're using j*vascript btw

[storm elk]

still no god damn clue howthe ids to the palette colors be assigned

[storm elk]

meh it's easy

[celest smelt]

not really the concern

jsut kind of a weird messed up language

[storm elk]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

in the image mosiac program iirc after the orignal image was set to the palette

just stepped through each pixel, got the rgb, which was the key value to the sub image i wanted to put there

[storm elk]

how is it messed up and weird

seems fine to me

[celest smelt]

the shit it pulls with strings

iirc if you add a string thats numeric i.e "1.5" to a number it converts the string to number and adds its numeric value

also like lua it doesnt have integers

also that it has this sort of shit
the page that has these has some things that are actualy pretty normal (like NaN not equaling NaN, that's pretty standard afaik) but it still has some fucked shit

but hey at least it has math.e

(looking at you, lua)

[storm elk]

ah right

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JSFuck
which allows for this lmao

[celest smelt]

to be clear i dont think its the worst thing every but i have to give any language that does that at least a little trouble

[storm elk]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[celest smelt]

like at least it uses 0-based indexing (once again looking at you, lua)

[storm elk]

ew

why lua

[celest smelt]

ikr

lua is such a wack language but a lot of things use it

[storm elk]

I really only know that it's used in roblox tbh

[celest smelt]

lua is like the C of interpreted languages lol

you can basically remove like half of it

a lot of the time it doesnt even have operators for bitwise stuff so you have to do shit like bit.bor() or bit.lshift()

[storm elk]

breh

[static surge]

Somehow, I’m still having problems with the Cretaceous period map

Even with the new image to world box thing

[storm elk]

it doesn't consist of solid colors

So you'll have to tweak it alot to get oceans and biomes where u want it

and then do manual clean up in game

[storm elk]

it's an image to map converter.

that means that it'll try to resemble the apperance of the image as close as possible

very different from trying to make a map that makes sense based on the image

I just added means of customization that allows it to use heightmaps/biomemap en stuff

and that image ain't a height map

[storm elk]

this is what happens when you attempt to color match an image into a worldbox map -w-

012241,065e82,054e77,F7E898,E2934B,,,626456,,,,,,,,,,,,,,E1BA5A,E8C76E,,,,,,,,,324b2e,415e30,,,324b2e,46A052,,,,,,,,,,,,626456,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
https://th.bing.com/th/id/R.35def72c40b362a36db5697c31da56ee?rik=KLVnl6Z3i%2FH9uQ&riu=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.thearmchairexplorer.com%2Fgeology%2Fg-images%2Fmaps%2F90mya-cretaceous-rect.jpg&ehk=2yxZ1q17mSX7GLpE%2BbkA7rvG0WAxXkYe2v7WXSweOZU%3D&risl=&pid=ImgRaw&r=0&sres=1&sresct=1
https://codepen.io/Deathrobloxian/full/pvzvPJj

[idle totem]

@storm elk please stop posting garbage maps you scraped from the image to map program please

theyre neat but theyre too much

[storm elk]

aight fine

I'll just post intresting stuff that aint image 2 map then

and ig less often

[idle totem]

or just stuff that takes effort

[grim seal]

Hi! I’m gonna make a green Antarctica map on pc, and I was wondering if anyone could edit in a grid for this image? Great the black bars and Reddit logo as water for all intents and purposes please. Also, for the largest map (size 8) what would the best assortment of grid lines be?

How many blocks tall and wife is the largest world size?

Oh wait, apparently I can’t upload images

Frick

[storm elk]

btw stuff like 9 x 9 maps (iceberg size) is 576 by 576 pixels

and goes up all the way to 256 x 256 maps (need 100+ GB of ram to run tho)
also map converter only allows up to 50 x 50 on the discord

https://the-official-worldbox-wiki.fandom.com/wiki/Palette

Can utilize #🔁map-conversion to turn something u draw to a map in game

just be sure to be a multiple of 64 in width and height

[summer beacon]

Are there any middle earth maps with the kingdoms?

[weak relic]

-traiteditor

[gritty patrol]

-traiteditor

[median current]

Any Medical maps of Europe

?

[devout gull]

medical?

[uneven plinth]

anyone have a climate map? where to put biomes and such

[celest smelt]

oh this is a thing?

i used a screenshot of a map to figure out the colors...

oh this is thumbnail colors not the map ones

i can tell from the lava colors

[celest smelt]

i once tried makign a thing to do this but i could never figure out how i'd organize the biomes

cause a lot of them are very similar in color

[north walrus]

Is there a huge world map??

[simple wraith]

You can find one anywhere

There should be some in the map downloads and cool map downloads

[storm elk]

For the most part zoomed out and thumbnail be the same

just not for lava

probably bugged

#3575d4
nvm

ah well

oh rigt got vingette one

there we go

[last cloud]

@devout gull 's Map

[devout gull]

This is a map Ive been working on for like 2 days, the map of Xadia from The Dragon Prince series from Netflix
Ive decided to do it, because I really like the show, and the maps of it that already exist....well....lets just say they couldve been done WAAAAAY better
For now Ive only did the wester part of the continent in paint.net, tomorrow I will try my best to finish the eastern part
And then I will finish the whole in Worldbox

So, what do you, person reading this think about it? Do you like it?
Do you have maybe some sugestions? Some things that you think i should change/add)

[gusty torrent]

What happened to cool maps

It's a wasteland

[devout gull]

What do you mean?

[glossy hedge]

Halo

[devout gull]

Ahoi

[devout gull]

Im making this map, the map of Xadia, which has a big Hot and Dangerous Desert filled with black sand, and dangerous soul sucking snakes
And Im wondering, what biome should I use for it? Just normal Desert? Swamp? Or maybe the spooky biome?

[unkempt topaz]

Guys Anyone make the anime world maps xd example: hxh, seven deadly sins, black clover

Pls

[true pelican]

You can use discord's search function to find what you need in #🌐map-downloads or #🌐✔cool-maps!

1. (If on mobile) be in #🌐map-downloads channel
2. Tap on the search icon in top right corner of screen

• If non mobile user type in:map-downloads and then click on #🌐map-downloads

3. Type in the keyword of map you want to search for in the search bar, and press enter.

• Example: typing earth into the search bar will bring up earth maps.

If still unsure how to use search look at this discord support article: https://support.discord.com/hc/en-us/articles/115000468588-Using-Search
@unkempt topaz

[summer beacon]

Are there any middle earth maps with the kingdoms?

[devout gull]

Soon Ill be making (hopefully) the most accurate map of Middle Earth! (where the lands of the eternal winter aint a freaking SAVANNA! Like seriously, how could anybody put savanna in the lands of the eternal winter? BRUH), and just for you, Ill make a version with kingdoms!

[summer beacon]

tysm ive waited so long for a middle earth map 😭

[devout gull]

I mean, there are other maps out there, you can just add the kingdoms yourself, or find a one witht it, especially because my map will take some time to be made

[summer beacon]

ik theres other maps out there its just im far too lazy to be making kingdoms myself
i can wait, ive waited almost 2 years at this point for this update so

[devout gull]

oki, I think it will come out whethe this week, or early next week

[summer beacon]

okk

[devout gull]

@summer beacon Guess what? I wont make the map, because, it turns out, the image in paint.net is good quality, but in Worldbox, its all BLURED!!!!!!

[hybrid imp]

do you need help converting? i can convert it for you and send the wbox file

[summer beacon]

noo

false hope

[devout gull]

Thx <3333, Ill send you the image in dm, cause I cant here

[summer beacon]

waitwait

oh nvm

well i'll say it anyways but it probably wont matter as nal's helping u

u could try making the map with an already made map

[devout gull]

BUT! I will try to find the reason behind it not working, and fix it!

[storm elk]

resolved

[summer beacon]

?

[storm elk]

i just say that so they don't get pinged again or something

@snow anvil

[golden kettle]

I should try making a map again

but this time use photoshop

[devout gull]

#🌐map-downloads

[idle totem]

@snow anvil please post real maps if youre going to send something

[static surge]

For some reason, I am trying to make an earth in 50 million years map by using an image to map generator, but all of the maps are terrible and I can’t seem to get one without mountains in the ocean. Can somebody tweak it for me so I can do it or at least teach me how to tweak it.

[simple wraith]

The converter matches colors to tiles. it can’t interpret that the ocean in your picture is an ocean but it can match the color to a tile. And in ur case that probably means the closest tile to the color of the ocean is mountains

[summer beacon]

@static surge if you havent read already,
i pinged you because this person didnt reply ping you when answering your question, and not being pinged means sometimes you wont check to see if theres an answer til a while later, atleast for me that happens

[oblique drum]

Where is the latest release of ImageToMap?

[oblique drum]

I want the latest release of ImageToMap so that I can turn images of random ass stuff I like into maps (e.g. a map of both Kanto and Johto from Pokémon). anyone got the link for me?

[storm elk]

https://gamebanana.com/mods/476776

Did my own take of image2map conversion too if wanna mess around with that https://codepen.io/Deathrobloxian/full/pvzvPJj

allows for assigning each tile to a dif color

[oblique drum]

well ty

[celest smelt]

which one

cause obligatory 'hey i made one too'

[storm elk]

just post urs as well lol

[celest smelt]

sure

[harsh flare]

Can i just say something about the maps? I'm on mobile and every map i download (including mobile friendly) doesn't work. And it doesn't pop up in my save spots

[river sigil]

Its kinda finicky to get them working

you have to move them from your devices downloads into the save via your files app

or a similar app

[quaint bear]

They got hot 🙂

[rustic gust]

I need the achievement can you guys go download the (should be) most recent map in the workshop? Should be made by j0yst1k

[stable kelp]

Does somebody have a map of Europe or the world in the 1400

[summer beacon]

with kingdoms? no kingdoms?

this is one, but with no kingdoms, if you want kingdoms with it i can probably find you one

[haughty root]

Im on iPhone are you able to download maps on I phone

[true pelican]

If you own a PC, you can install maps on iOS as described in this guide: #1213490166023331850 message .
Otherwise, if you only have your iOS device, it's impossible to install maps on iOS because the operating system refuses to give you access to the game files that you'd need to insert the map into.
@haughty root

[haughty root]

Thanks

[desert carbon]

You're welcome!

[stable kelp]

Would be nice with kingdoms

[summer beacon]

i dont know exactly if there is one in the age of 1400s but i know theres one in this current age

i'll look though

[stable kelp]

Thx

[summer beacon]

yea i searched all of the 66 results of europe maps, theres none in the 1400s, but heres one with kingdoms

[summer beacon]

oh actually, this person accepts personalized maps, you could ask them if they could make it with kingdoms in the 1400s

(may take a while though)

[stable kelp]

That map is pretty good too thanks

[grand shuttle]

Were can i find the world map that gorg use in the video about each kingdom is lead by an immortal demigod

[median current]

*Mediaeval

Autocorrect my bad

[devout gull]

Blud really responded after 4 days😭🙏💀🤫🧏🏿‍♂️🗿🇳🇪

[median current]

Yo I woke up from 4000 year nap chill out 😭💀💀🧏🏾‍♂️

[devout gull]

Skibidi

[median current]

Rizz

Wizz

[summer beacon]

i already looked for maps that have medieval kingdoms on europe, the closest i got was the one i sent already with the 2024 kingdoms

[median current]

Thanks

[random prawn]

Hi guys , how to download map if i play from iPad , or its possible only from pc?

[true pelican]

If you own a PC, you can install maps on iOS as described in this guide: #1213490166023331850 message .
Otherwise, if you only have your iOS device, it's impossible to install maps on iOS because the operating system refuses to give you access to the game files that you'd need to insert the map into.
@random prawn

[storm elk]

look up how to use imazing

[true pelican]

Follow this guide to see how you can install and upload maps:
https://the-official-worldbox-wiki.fandom.com/wiki/Maps

[storm elk]

this link has filepath for ios

[frosty galleon]

How much tiles is 20x10?

[summer beacon]

2,560x1,280 i believe

[errant lintel]

How do you like download maps

And use them on world box

[true pelican]

Follow this guide to see how you can install and upload maps:
https://the-official-worldbox-wiki.fandom.com/wiki/Maps
@errant lintel

[celest smelt]

pretty sure it'd be 1280x640

[summer beacon]

i just caculated how much a 1x1 map is then mulitplied it

[celest smelt]

well a chunk is 64 tiles

[storm elk]

in length and width

[celest smelt]

20x64 is 1280, 10x64 is 640

if we're talking area then it'd just be 819,200 tiles

[celest smelt]

oh hey btw want a challenge? so image to map is just tiles and allat usually, but you did flowers and such too

now imagine doing it for buildings
i was thinking just for the example of an image of an existing map, like the thumbnail or whatever, having it check for any of the colors that a (multi-tile) building has and then adding it in if it matches

[storm elk]

pain

i can do that

[celest smelt]

it shouldnt be TERRIBLY hard since most of them are just 2x3 or whatever

[storm elk]

the image 2 map process gonna take fuckin forever tho

due to yk having to consider that many pixels per pass

[celest smelt]

well you only need to consider it if it matches

[storm elk]

Have to check 6 pixels for color matching tho

that's more math

and that slows it down

like ig can be sped up if taking the average color then running it through color match

[celest smelt]

yeah having something to quantize it beforehand would make it easier

[storm elk]

but average color of a group of pixels doesn't look the same as the building sprite it self

[celest smelt]

the real problem would be making sure you dont have buildings intersecting

cause they can be different sizes, and if they intersect it just kinda doesnt work

this reminds me of that one time i made a sort of 2d greedy meshing function for creating images out of rectangles
something like that for worldbox would be neat, instead of just rows actually segmenting it into quads

worldbox terrain probably wouldn't work great for that tho (and really, the space a map takes up with its tilemap isnt a whole lot anyway)

[storm elk]

that's simple enough if you set the pixel step size to be fixedd

accounting for all the building sizes complicates it to the point that the run time isn't reasonable

cause while yes you can account for the horizontal spots not to use

vertical is another thing

harder to do on the fly

[celest smelt]

yeah its not terribly complicated
easiest way if you're just iterating through coordinates is just doing smth like

x_snap = (x // size_x) * size_x
y_snap = (y // size_y) * size_y

[storm elk]

aight

[celest smelt]

// being floor division

[storm elk]

I use 1d array btw

so

¯_(ツ)_/¯

ok for dynamic snapping

im assuming every tile be building btw

[celest smelt]

i kind of flip flop between them

[storm elk]

breh

[celest smelt]

well in my released version i use 1d but when testing i used a nested loop some of the time

[storm elk]

also dont you need to do 1d array even in python due to how the pixel information is stored?

[celest smelt]

you can do either in pillow

[storm elk]

aight

so it can output in 2d

neat

[celest smelt]

you can get the data as an array and also as a PixelAccess object that lets you access it by coordinate

[storm elk]

im stuck with 1d array thanks to javascript and html canvas element

I couldddd convert the data to 2d array

[celest smelt]

in pillow for writing its faster to use an array but im not sure if one is better than the other for reading

[storm elk]

but that's pointless

cause then i'd have to convert data back into 1d array anyhow to put in the data

for the tiles

buildings ig could get away with 2d array for them...

[celest smelt]

its not terribly hard to get x,y coordinates from an array index

[storm elk]

got this to account for the fact that worldbox does info from bottom to top

[celest smelt]

for width w and height h, and index t you can just do

x = t % w
y = (t // w) % h

the % h for y isnt necessary if you are sure the index wont go out of bounds

[storm elk]

the 1d array is 4 values per pixel

[celest smelt]

i just flipped the image lol

[storm elk]

I flip the image array after the fact

[celest smelt]

that works too tho

[storm elk]

due to needing the preview to display properly

[celest smelt]

i just use separate images for the preview and the one used for the actual map gen

[storm elk]

ok so making just building image 2 map is simple enough

complicates thing when i try to do tiles as well

[celest smelt]

they both are derived from an internal image that stays unchanged (so that doing something like changing the resolution up and down won't mess it up) and i just make a copy and modify them as needed

[storm elk]

aight

[celest smelt]

which is why in mine it doesn't make the image massive if you do like a 100x100 map lol

[storm elk]

ah intresting

[celest smelt]

nice

[storm elk]

mine be the fullsize of input and output image

so if do 100x100 map

yeah...

[celest smelt]

ye
does have the effect of the preview not being super accurate if its super stretched, but the preview is mainly just to show the colors anyway

[storm elk]

Hmm i should probably add an option to disable preview for large maps lol

damn the gen time so much faster without the canvas element being shown lol

still lags the heck outta the page due to absurdly large variable

oh well

[celest smelt]

huh weird, i started testing state and all the states except 4 and 5 are the same it seems
0-3 become identical looking to 5 when they're in a city's borders

something's not happy

apparently a duplicate building id, though i made sure all the buildings were different ids

ah

the game did its perma freeze softlock when i tried exiting the world, didnt like destroying the building

just removing that tag might be fine since i never encountered this until i just started manually adding buildings into an unpacked save

[storm elk]

wuh

ah u forgot to increment it

[celest smelt]

yeah i didnt realize it was a thing since it seems to work fine without it

[storm elk]

yup only fine til a new building made

[celest smelt]

i meant more like its probably not a necessary tag

probably just has it set to 0 if it doesnt exist

[storm elk]

iirc the tag straight up don't exist if no buildings made in world yet

Any int tags that have a value of 0 just simply won't appear in save

[celest smelt]

i wanna see what happens if i set it to 2147483647

so im gonna do that

it doesnt actually overflow

i guess they're using a long for it

ill try this then

ok yeah it overflows after 9223372036854775807

[storm elk]

noice

negative building ids lol

[celest smelt]

yeah
loads fine too

[shrewd lily]

is it possible to downscale a world somehow

[storm elk]

Just use #🔁map-conversion

on the preview.png

preferably with all buildings flowers and trees removed

~c 1x1

[shrewd lily]

yeah i tried too many small glitches tho

[storm elk]

Well that what happens with image resizing

Just edit the preview.png manually ig

or use it as a reference

https://the-official-worldbox-wiki.fandom.com/wiki/Palette

[vapid valley]

how do i use the cool map on worldbox?

[true pelican]

Follow this guide to see how you can install and upload maps:
https://the-official-worldbox-wiki.fandom.com/wiki/Maps
@vapid valley

[celest smelt]

btw i mentioned it before but the map preview and ingame are different colors

specifically for lava and a few other things

[celest smelt]

for whatever reason in map view lava2 looks the same as lava3

and border water / border pit look transparent in the thumbnail, but in map view they just look like deep ocena

[celest smelt]

oh also apparently this is how the states in buildings work

[storm elk]

Like i said earlier pretty sure the lava color is bugged

Also I've shown that i game ocean color be same and preview.png

[celest smelt]

fair

[storm elk]

double checked with more tiles and yeah consistent with what's in palette

[devout gull]

So, there is this map of Avatar The Last Airbender, where the guy who made it used Mushroom Biome a lot, and I get it, it looks cool, it has a nice shade of green
But there was no Mushroom Forest in Avatar, so why the heck did the use it here? It doesnt make any sense
Why do people use Mushroom Forest so much???

[celest smelt]

its a nice biome idk

[summer beacon]

context?

[idle totem]

@lapis plinth you cant use trait editor in #🌐map-downloads, try using #🤖bot-commands instead

[lapis plinth]

-traiteditor

[bright fern]

I'm making the eu4 map in worldbox

[vagrant tulip]

End of WW1 rework XD

[muted owl]

why are you doing it on a world map

should have done it in a Eurasia or Europe + nearby areas map

[bright fern]

why the hell not

[muted owl]

REAL

[bright fern]

progress

[idle totem]

this is awesome

[bright fern]

thank you

it is scary though because i dont even feel like im thinking about making this map

while making the map

i got it so down to a science that the meaning behind what im doing has been lost

i just follow the blueprint

i also could not fit ulm on the map

[indigo yoke]

My god

[celest smelt]

thats awesome, the lag must be unreal tho

once generated a map with a bunch of 1 zone kingdoms and it tanked fps really hard
the relations tab gets unusable really quick too

[bright fern]

its really not

i have about 260 villages so far

ive ran bigger maps before

[celest smelt]

ah, the threshold for lag must be a bit higher then

[bright fern]

idk maybe it is unusually laggy and ive just gotten used to it

because this is how ive been playing for the last 2 years

also population has not had time to grow yet

[celest smelt]

oh yeah that reminds me

i should try fucking with the time with save editing again

cause i wanna see if theoretically if you waited long enough if you could run into floating point precision bs with the time

oh yeah you can

i set the time to 16777216 and the month counter is noticeably kind of like, jittery
like not that it spazzes out but it goes up in large increments

[bright fern]

I'm back with the planets project

[idle totem]

when youre ready to drop this would you be interested in having the map maker role?

[bright fern]

I finished it, and yes I would like to have the role

[bright fern]

#🌐map-downloads message

[dire ice]

@idle totem when do we give this guy map creator

[idle totem]

@rare bane would be very appreciated if you could give this guy map role

[rare bane]

done!

[idle totem]

thx

@bright fern congrats!!!

[bright fern]

[idle totem]

check #🌐mapping-cave for a private channel for creators

[sleek wadi]

@bright fern

Good job man

[last cloud]

Looks great! I’ve been playing the old one for a while now.

[heavy cliff]

bro why y'all doggin on my map 😭

[south garnet]

whats a good tutorial to follow to get mods and maps

🙂

[bright fern]

Anyone got a lotr map?

[deft rose]

i found it earlier

for good maps mrslimebox has good ones

[noble stump]

wow, this is actually one of the coolest maps ive seen on here.

[slender grove]

Anyone got a earth map?

[south garnet]

can somebody help me with getting maps

nvmmmm

[true pelican]

Follow this guide to see how you can install and upload maps:
https://the-official-worldbox-wiki.fandom.com/wiki/Maps
@south garnet

You can use discord's search function to find what you need in #🌐map-downloads or #🌐✔cool-maps!

1. (If on mobile) be in #🌐map-downloads channel
2. Tap on the search icon in top right corner of screen

• If non mobile user type in:map-downloads and then click on #🌐map-downloads

3. Type in the keyword of map you want to search for in the search bar, and press enter.

• Example: typing earth into the search bar will bring up earth maps.

If still unsure how to use search look at this discord support article: https://support.discord.com/hc/en-us/articles/115000468588-Using-Search
@slender grove

[rose monolith]

I wish I could get maps and share maps on iOS

[outer temple]

[rose monolith]

[outer temple]

[rose monolith]

[outer temple]

[rose monolith]

[cunning warren]

Anybody has a map for the next update with all the biomes, diverse terrain and space for the upcoming biomes? Pls i tried to create a nice map for mobile, but it ended up being an ugly garbage

[bright fern]

Can someone please tell me how I can download maps? I’m on mobile

[wise coyote]

You cannot on iOS

[rose monolith]

The iOS version of Worldbox doesn’t allow file imports

It’s not iOS itself

[celest smelt]

didnt you say the same thing yesterday and get corrected about it? 💀

[rose monolith]

No

[celest smelt]

oh aight i see

nvm i stand corrected, fair play

[bright fern]

Ohhh Ty

[bright fern]

Rip, ty for telling me

[true pelican]

If you own a PC, you can install maps on iOS as described in this guide: #1213490166023331850 message .
Otherwise, if you only have your iOS device, it's impossible to install maps on iOS because the operating system refuses to give you access to the game files that you'd need to insert the map into.
@bright fern

If you own a PC, you can install maps on iOS as described in this guide: #1213490166023331850 message .
Otherwise, if you only have your iOS device, it's impossible to install maps on iOS because the operating system refuses to give you access to the game files that you'd need to insert the map into.
@rose monolith

[crude zenith]

Now I realise I have android 14...

Anybody found a way to download maps using Android 14

[patent bramble]

Yall know when the next update is coming out?

[crude zenith]

When it is finished 🙂

[patent bramble]

Cuz it's been months since we had a update