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the book of job was always a tricky one
manhattan ce forever
bro had to be enslaved because his dad made fun of noah
jesus said
go through hell
"It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich person to enter the Kingdom of God".
Cheese
this is why jesus was based btw
Yall ever wonder if religion is used to keep people from becoming rich
The rich person has more to test
jesus was a real person too so
christian nationalists
The solution is that you put the camel in a small black hole, then move the black hole through the needle
we know that
its the opposite
Is that a kpop demon hunters reference
a based guy
yes
but a lot of the religious billionaires dont really follow their religions
religion nowadays is just
No it's skibidi toilet reference
a scam
Who pinged me
they just profit off the believers
which is why i love orthodoxy and catholicism so much
they dont even exist anymore bro
its just larpers
You can be religious and rich? Most rich people are religious
Why is it spelt with a k
true
racist fellows
Why
Oh
who pinged me
Hello
the white ghost wearing ones
the only god they worship is paper
u know what im tlaking about
Hi
Albert
Nooooo
but yeah @earnest cradle is right theyre larpers these days
Who?
evangelical christians be like "DONATE ALL YOUR LIFE SAVINGS TO THE CHURCH OR GOD IS GONNA PUT YOU IN A BLENDER WHEN YOU DIE!!!"
that goes for most of these types of people tbh
Bro save capybara
these days ud even see non white white supremacists
No he died of bomb nuclir
the mvpās of heresies
Albertāļø
the klan as an organized entity doesnt exist anymore its just a shitton of racist larpers cosplaying as them
Except most of them got rich in unholy ways
90% of the time these people are larpers
It is theoretically possible to follow God and become rich
Does he like keys
Oh no
true
Idk
and jehovahs witnesses
Do you like keys?
yeah but you also have to heed gods word or else its just plain greed
JWs when you say yahweh instead of my le yehowah
and joshua graham
If you have money to spare, that money should go to people who need it
I will say I doubt there are any humans who have not directly or indirectly made money with unholy ways
Would ts be like the rightwous gemstones?
Nut bomb
i beg of you
Fat burger
i still have no clue how some of these ādenominationsā exist
And if you don't have money to spare, are you really rich?
money
and schizophrenics
Nooo
only time id ever show interest is for joshua graham
haha
money is the most popular religion
Not every religion believes that btw that you must give all your spare money
Love u benny
joshua graham is an accurate depiction of modern christian preachers
š„
dude is genuinely just evil but trying to hide it under a thin veneer of religious righteousness
Of course, you can interpret religion in many ways.
i tihnk u can fix him
if ur good enough

dutch....
Bro wtf
i got a plan john
ngl finding a good preacher for christianity is always gonna be tricky
especially in the west
No but like some religions donāt want you to become poor and give everything away mindlessly
You always have a plan, dutch
Giving things away mindlessly isn't what I said
we cant fight graviuty
My boy kieran
we cant fight nothing
š š
my whole life all i ever did was fight
"THE FASTER THE THINGS ARE GOING TO HAPPEN!!!!!!"
"THE FASTER THE THINGS ARE GOING TO HAPPEN!!!!!!!"
screams into the mic like a fucking idiot for no reason before imitating a cockatoo to make fun of atheists (a preacher actually did this btw)
but i cant give up
We are not horses, we are humans
i cant fight my own nature
But if you have money to spare, rather than spending it on luxuries you hardly need, you should spend it on making better the lives of those who are suffering
thats a paradox john
you see
organic centralism in theory is good but in practice it is more prone to political struggles and personality cults than formal political leadership
i dont think its to make fun of athiests its more a scare tactic
when im gone theyll just find another mosnter
Did.. you just say.. Burger Dutch?
they have to
Giving all your spare money to people who need it is being mindless, maybe you are going to need that in the unknown future, you cannot just give all your money away even if itās spare
no it is to make fun of atheists they're genuinely fucking stupid
R
JOHN
no its not
if im being real its used on everyone
if its a scare tactic then they did a horrible job lmao
even other christians
well i am saying this as an agnostic who never was really convinced by religion so
Being a hero is a hard job, Spider man.
'Savings for the unknown' is not really the same as 'spare money.' You are misinterpreting what I say. What I mean is, if someone is rich enough to buy a second yacht, they should spend that money on charity instead
damn, religious talk in my gay server again?
is he stupid
dude you arent even gay
no
i think
" Well... to each his own. I chose my path, you chose the way of the hero. And they found you amusing for a while, the people of this city. But the one thing they love more than a hero... is to see a hero fail, fall, die trying. In spite of everything you've done for them, eventually they will hate you. Why bother?"
A yacht is also an investment and can always be sold when times get hard
you're literally straight
i guess bro
Yes, one yacht is. Two yachts is greed and nothing more
Micah was secretly gay
Evil fucking wizard cat:,
MREEOOOOOOOOOW ā” ā” ā¼ļø ā¼ļø ā” ā”
Evil fucking wizard cat:,
MREEOOOOOOOOOW ā” ā” ā¼ļø ā¼ļø ā” ā”
If you can afford a second yacht, you are making enough money. Share it with the world instead of with yourself
We gay deep inside
the fuck did i join to
if i were gay i would be with u rn
š½
evangelical pastors
Also, yachts will cost money and degrade over time. If you really want to invest, you would want to put your money in something else
To a certain extent you can have too much money way too much that you donāt need obviously but being rich is very broad term that can also mean people who are just like a multimillionaire
WE all lowk trans
nevermind im leaving
Shut up
the narrator
no u
wish i was a cat
MEOW
Evil fucking wizard cat:,
MREEOOOOOOOOOW ā” ā” ā¼ļø ā¼ļø ā” ā”Evil fucking wizard cat:,
MREEOOOOOOOOOW ā” ā” ā¼ļø ā¼ļø ā” ā”
Evil fucking wizard cat:,
MREEOOOOOOOOOW ā” ā” ā¼ļø ā¼ļø ā” ā”
You make me sick now I have cancer
Multimillionaires also have more than enough money to help others
i wish i was a leopard seal
@tacit marsh tangina SHUT THE FUCK UP
evangelical christians are actually just satan
Keep spamming and youll see what happens...
but im borned cancer
those guys are cool
'As we've said on other occasions, there is even more: there are true communist types even under capitalist power. Firefighting is one example: when something burns nobody pays to put out the fire; if nothing burns the firefighters are fed all the same.' (letter to Onorato Damen, 31 July 1951)
hey bad word
this made me think of a video
Okay
idfk y
like according to christians they are GENUINELY satan
(by christians i mean most christian sects)
yay someone finally acknowledged it
now to whom is this directed to
Evil fucking wizard cat:,
MREEOOOOOOOOOW ā” ā” ā¼ļø ā¼ļø ā” ā”
idk where that video is though
that
ha?
1670 kilometers bruhš
SIX SEVEN
Michael bay
your answer determines whether or not you get a major warn
I see
The future is unpredictable you might get cancer lose something a flood happens etc. Besides the utilities you now use are way more expensive for quality and even with inflation you would need your money for in the future because it will slowly lose value
Hd
that wasnt my concern my concern was the profile pictures
@tidal glacier annihilate him
german ideologist is a leftcom and the other guy is an ancap
š š š
SHUSH, im a regular innocent citizen who hates rusted warfare
and I will always hate rusted warfare
Im cooked guys
shut up u communist
Nope! I was wrong
We ALL hate communism
Both are leftcoms
I think their pfps are spoofs of each other
too late, get skinned
Bring bank oab
what did six thought of 7
67
Six vs seven
no, 7 ate 9
"ermmmqnn1n1!!!111 ermmm !!11 shut up yu comminust!! shut up yu communist!! nyehehehehh!!!"
anyhow
lore accurate me but i have a handsome facew
All I ever typed was sarcasm, it was my moment of weakness, I hate all of you
the iq of this chat is somehow in the negatives
ive met like 5 people who look exactly like the MLoid in the left
1002er92349539
Its positive boy
something
L
this is why Mindanao has to be nuked
same political orientation, pins and everything
Wtf is wrong with my discord
~ask can pig eat human?
WHEN WILL VALORANT DOWNLOAD
Yes, pigs are omnivores and will eat almost anything, including human flesh, if given the opportunity. There have been documented cases of pigs consuming human remains.
-# AI can make mistakes, please verify the information provided.
2026 by the way.
Mindanao good Philippines bad
Never.
Angry pork
~bt
I havenāt player valorant in years
~bt
@tacit marsh: Yes, it is by omnivores and these will eat almost any meat they can find. There are records of them being eaten by sheep. -# AI Record, Error, check the information provided.
@north hound: by 2026. implemented each case
i give up i cant find my meme
@trim saddle
Evil fucking wizard cat:,
MREEOOOOOOOOOW ā” ā” ā¼ļø ā¼ļø ā” ā”
heroin is not a proletarian drug, it is for the lumpen and petit bourgeoisie
@queen marsh watch chat, I go do school things and lock the fuck in
No
If you are a multimillionaire, you are probably earning money fast enough to recover. You also don't need to give away all your money, keeping some savings in case something goes wrong is a good idea. But even with that, you will still have a lot of money that you can give to charity. And to be completely honest, you don't need to live in luxury anyways. If you are willing to sacrifice your luxury, put yourself among the rest of humankind and use the excess funds to raise them up alongside with you, you will truly be a good person.
guys if drugs are bad then why are there drug stores
Because 67
it's evening u quezon city something guy
isn't that you tho?
Jezz the honse
cityboy
The lumpen have gone mad
is the one piece real
I subscribe to a programmist, mechanist view of the revolution and its party, though I think the āorganic centralismā of Bordigaās party- one in which there was one central interpreter of marxist texts- is one that fails, as in trying to erase political leadership, it reinvents political leadership under one man
This question is incredibly difficult to solve, as adding democracy in any form invites political leadership which is inherently degenerative, but without a democratic system to keep the ācentral scholarā under check, what stops them from assuming political leadership?
I have yet to come to a satisfactory solution.
~ask tung tung tung sahur vs tralalero tralala
That sounds like a fun, rhythmic comparison! Is there something specific you'd like to know or discuss about it?
-# AI can make mistakes, please verify the information provided.
didnt u live in quezon city something
i remember u did
say it
i forgor
mayve
no š½
Biringan city
I haven't even gone to Quezon City in 3 years
Tayo ba ay Patay na pwet?
Shut up
Who are you to shut me up
and urn ot
Itās about quality of life, the rich person has the possibility to have the best healthcare best education for their children and the best tools. To a certain extent your life wonāt improve the more money you get and then I might say you donāt need that excess money. If you already take that excess money you wouldnāt need the money of someoneās net worth of 3 milllion also besides most of the value is not even cash itās in their assets
I'm superior
Jezz
my brother in christ
you play Valorant
I'm diz bro
Diz nuts
with KSMP leaf something
Hahahahahhahahaha
get a load of this guy
67
Chicjen
except those who i politically agree with
this is why curze deserves to get locked in his room with his favourite stuff
milk
how about we ran a democratic vote and let the majority agree
Why put yourself above other people though? Why make life better only for yourself, when you can make life better for everyone?
I hate everyone
@earnest cradle
We all gay
FUCK
BAD WORD
THE GAS PRICES
IT COSTS 100 FUCKING PESOS FOR A LITER
i myself am a damenist but ive never really given the inner workings of the party much thought
until very recently
Can't we all lowk use the fucking bike bro its fucking healthier and CHEAPER and ECO FRIENDLY
Blame
Can't we all lowk use the fucking bike bro its fucking healthier and CHEAPER and ECO FRIENDLY
Can't we all lowk use the fucking bike bro its fucking healthier and CHEAPER and ECO FRIENDLY
and ive yet to come up with a conclusion for an optimal organization of the party
Shut the fuck up
no
as i have my quarrells with organic centralism
spam shit one more time I dare
Bike hate
shit
Bikesm
Its putting yourself first and then others. You simply have priorities and the why? Because you are yourself you are the one that you experience directly
I hate eco friendly things
My mother is not earth
hey mars
i generally agree with damenās critiques of total opposition to councils, the purpose of the party is to act as the central organizer and maintaining doctrinal supremacy. the councils are extensions of proletarian will that are to be co-opted by the party rather than absorbed or erased, as they form the basis of communist society while the party forms the basis of proletarian dictatorship
Terminate protocol
You shouldn't neglect yourself, but you also shouldn't prioritize yourself to the point where you forget others
can we all lowk hate curze
cuz he aint sigma, alpha
nor a charismatic rizzler
he must be stoned
and made into a statue
where symbols liberty
[Jezz] initiating Termination
dodges'
I hate jezz
this is why i agree with damen's takes on councils, it'd be silly to completely erase them from a communist society
Yes that is why I would believe excess money that wouldnāt improve your quality of life any further should you probably give to others,
haha noob
Hate jezz love earth
as that ended horribly for leaders such as lenin
Stone jezz
obliterate curze
do u thin kthe world will end this year
Im in blankie mode
shut up
I'm digma
and, as stated, it would oppose communism to suppress worker's councils
hmmm
can we all supress anyone discussing the ideology of communism
I think there is a point in time where improvements to your own quality of life are less important than improvements to everyone else's quality of life, and buying a second yacht is definitely past that point
Me hate communism
we all LOVE anarchism
no
left communism
mutualism anarchism actually
what you call communism is for the lumpen
i dont like anarchism
š
any branches of communism is still communism
All communist are larpers
fella what kind of communism are you referring to
lenin
my guy
I donāt think you should buy a second yacht but at the same time I wouldnāt give that money to a charity when I might need it later. Besides I would only give a lot of money after my death with inheritance to a charity if I were to be a multimillionaire
"every part of communism" isnt every offshoot of marxism
wording
please
Stupid
That would probably be the safest option
I think you are greedy for that
we should blow up the earth
Okay
Why
anarcho-communists should be hanged because i dont like them (this is satire)
ok bro i admit defeat
As you said, money goes down in value over time
:3
yeah blow up earth
I will eat so everyone starves
then i dont have to hear political stuff
Sitting on it until you die just in case you need it only makes it worth less
mutualism is from proudhon who was not a communist and anarchism is not communist either
mutualists and anarchists were contemporaries of marx, they do not derive their basis from his theories
im pretty smart right
That is why I wouldnāt sit on it I would invest it to battle against inflation rate to keep the same value or more
if u remove all humans then theres no humans to be bad
no more crime
no more evil]
goddd i hate hoppeanoids
using ll of my 4 iq
@bookishpick
hoppeanism is like if you took the already shitty ideology of anarcho-capitalism
my boy
bookish will be hanged when the revolution comes
i make new political ideology
can't we just burn the money so we have a deflation
Realistically in anarcho capitalism states would form eitherway
- /pol/
no they copied me
fair
time travelling hack
@winged hamlet u there
deflation is bad actually
ā
communism is the negation of capital, communists who build a society that maintains capitalist social relations are not communists
Monetary system should probably not be nationalized and let the market do its own thing.
i hate people who act like the "ai bubble bursting" is gonna fix the ram prices
Theoretically maybe, if everyone burned 10% of all their money. I still think the rich people would get richer from it though
why are they called communist then?
how fundamental could your understanding of economics possibly be
to think so
because they co-opted the term and the only people who bother to correct them are irrelevant
"erm, i'm a national SOCIALIST, it's in the NAME!!!!"
Rich people always find ways to squeeze money from everyone else
do you see how stupid you sound
yes im aware
cuz im definitely not in the mood to argue seriously
the fellows in germany
Everything is voluntary btw
then donāt argue at all?
no serious allowed
marxist-leninists explaining how they're actually authentic revolutionaries because they have "marxist" in the name
only silly whismical stuff
I miss fortun
and cats rule the people
This makes no sense in the context of the message you replied to
is he stupid or smth
probably not in the marxist definition
Or at least what my country want me to be
thorsty
You are talking they are being squeezed as if they are forcing someone to get every drop of money out of them but itās a voluntary exchange between money and a good
you know what
I don't understand those stuff
I just work eat sleep repeat
im sorry to the opps i just joined
this is u guys
do you believe in the abolition of the capitalist mode of production? that is, destroying the social relations that arise from capitalism
rubbing my two brain cell together
to stay awake
adverse effects to my cognitive reasoning
if the government is still able to let me live with decent housing, food and wealth, am fine with it
and thinking
lassalle gamer
what if i took those away
my 4 iq has dropped to 1
this but I will not fuck up
unironically got in a debate with an actual lassallean (āthe nordic model is close to socialism because the economy is socializedā) earlier
A robbery is also a voluntary exchange. You give someone money, they give you the rest of your life
average mindanao
yo an rpg 2
ancient
bet that did nothing
unable to penetrate an armored SUV
looks homemade
If there is only 1 internet service provider where I live, giving them money is not voluntary, it's a necessity. If I want to drink water, giving the water company money is not voluntary, it's a necessity
The workers are not doing hard stuff that nobody can do besides technology improves which makes them even do less
this is the most amount of damage that rocket did
type shit
nah, they just picked it up from somewhere
maybe it bounced on ground
Mindanao is just an irl battle royale map
A robbery is not voluntarily its forcing you to pay money. You can buy your food from a butcher or grocery store you donāt even need to survive from a rich a person. You can live a minimalistic lifestyle and survive
I wish I could be as cringe as a news reporter trying to explain 67
I need to acquire that power
i would quit my job
if i had to explain some stupid tihng
i would break down in tears on camera
like that
if i was
They're having fun
not a fuckin number
You don't have to pay money in a robbery. You can always say no. You can try to run away, or attack them, or do any manner of other brave things
the one time a Philippine News Channel explained what a Tung Tung Tung Sahur is
do you know christine chubbuck
More fear mongering yum yum
The chance of you dying is high you wonāt die by not buying some new iPhone pro max 17
thats my answer
what fucking surname is that
average american surname
Meanwhile, rich people are paying the rich people in government to make rich people pay less to the government in the future, and the people in government do it because by the time they're out of government they'll be rich too
christine chudduck
It's even better if they open the segment by saying the meme and laughing about it
john mcwigglebiggle
@fickle igloo when lenin was anti-democratic that was based actually btw
no she shot herself while live on the news
Thatās why democracy fails
democrat politician from virginia
What do you know about jeffory jent
i retract my jokes mb
Yeah
Think there a movie about it
with the exception of the Kronstadt rebellion*
What a last time i would not have any kids
hot take maybe lassalle was stupid
WHY WOULD YOU MAKE A MOVIE ABOUT THAT
Idk
Least evil person in general
So true twin
everyone here is evil depending on if you're a centrist or not
I don't get it
though even then it was fundamentally counter-revolutionary in character; expressly serving the interests of āstageistsā, moderate socialists, that is, and anarchists
Sorry
Slave mentality
Slave don't get paid
it is but these are also the core principles that should lead you to communism
lumpenprole mentality
We can't become not capitalist anymore we are brainwashed with the need of want want want
Yes they do
But hey at least I don't eat cereal for breakfast
fuck being content, we must overthrow the goverment just because some nutjob covered in red paint says so
same
Fr
fried sardines and rice
Tofu and dough
tofu is so good when fried
and dipped on soy sauce with garlic
Can't believe peasant food are healthier than most American meal
we're poor people, we have a diverse diet because we eat basically anything that doesn't kill us instantly
āI know your life is ok now, but we need to make it significantly worse for the next several decades for the chance that your grandchildren can have a slightly better lifeā
What don't kill us make us stronger
Or stomachache
Ok Kelly clarkson
you dont have a rooted conception of anything
Also fortune you gotta change your name i won the gamble against you
I can't even find my dream cute chinita 4'11 Filipina girlfriend, let alone having the ability to get grandkids
Luck vs fortune
Ew!
Who are you again?
What about people with cancer?
Kill them alll
they get beaten to death by Goku if they survive
Not sure
The key of luck you said this town isnt big enough for the two of us and we would gamble for the name and i won
Ah you're that guy
Well didn't see it
I was sleep when that happen
Do they
I'm Indonesian
We are known for our lazy behavior
they didnt deserve to be killed as their individual subjective aims were righteous even if objectively what they hoped to accomplish would be degenerate
Extreme case of burnout
well yeah, I have a home, a motorcycle, a stipend where I get 8,000 pesos just by having passing grades
and I can afford Mcdonald's like 3 times a week
17 million filipinos live in poverty btw
good fraction
heās petty bourgeois he wont understand that
Kill the government!
Whats the population tho?
considering that there are 124 million of us
124 million
Doesn't seem that bad, are they homless or just poor?
prob both
the homeless ones were murdered
What the fuck,
by death squads set up by a president the guy youāre talking to defends btw
114 million at the time of the survey
don't listen to him, he's not a Filipino to begin with
I'm not defending anyone I'm a tourist in this manner
rodriga duterte
so?? duterte still established death squads with the express purpose of killing societal degenerates
Elaborate
welcome to Pilipinas
we got white beaches, an island full of snakes, and 81 localized slurs
im not american
Rodrigo Roa Duterte (born March 28, 1945) is a Filipino lawyer and politician who served as the 16th president of the Philippines from 2016 to 2022. He had served as the mayor of Davao City in the past. Duterte is the first Philippine president from Mindanao, and is the oldest person to assume office, beginning his term at age 71. Duterte is th...
that shit was fake news spread by the dilawan and pinklawan
bad?
why is he being held by the ICC then bro
that mf is a hero
Sounds fun in a way
he was taken there by Marcos
My dog is traumatizedā¦
convicted international criminal
I'll stop you at lawyer lmao
Understandable
the entire government is making sure no power will be taken from them
so first they get rid of Duterte
Just showerd her
convicted criminal by the icc
The Davao Death Squad (DDS) is a death squad group in Davao City, Philippines. The group is alleged to have conducted summary executions of street children and individuals suspected of petty crimes and drug dealing. It has been estimated that the group is responsible for the killing or disappearance of between 1,020 and 1,040 people between 1998...
then his daughter
the icc is clearly in leagues with the filipino government!
this is all control
the present filipino government is the real secret society of elites that rule the world
through their proxy
hmmmm
the international criminal court
which they use to illegally and unjustly detain the right homorable rodrige duterte
i dont know maaannn
USSR please come back
seeming sus lately
founder of the right honorable davao death squad
Soo what are you guys gonna do about this durito guy?
you still defend people who are objectively horrible kleptocratic dictators lol
your politics are terrible
I hate the USSR for being an authoritarian hell hoke, but Russia of today is just as bad
your politics are false
Might as well give me subsidized housing
try to bring him back
Marcos really fucking up things lately
authoritarianism is not inherently bad, what matters is the class character of the government, which for both the USSR and russia as it is now, is bourgeois
yeah bro bring back the guy who summarily executed the homeless
Like how bad in comparison?
i love unturned
not as bad as summary executions of homeless people
Authoritarianism is bad inherently
That's a cool game
Stole (allegedly at least) 2 trillion pesos
Here's the real question, would you rather have King Dedede or Bowser rule your country?
which is like 1/3 of the entire gdp of the Philippines
it is not, authoritarianism is bad insofar as it opposes progression
So we got a theif and a murder?
he executed drug users at best
When was the last mobile update of wbox?
-someone whoās never lived in an authoritarian society, speaking to someone who lives in an authoritarian society
that murderer you call killed drug users who also kill people.
āyeah you guys actually arenāt suffering bro, Marx told me soā
summarily! which is bad either way! and if they are executed without trial, how can you say they are drug users?
what do they mean by this
people who would kill just for a sniff
Ok ok
authoritarianism is good when the class character is proletarian vs. authoritarianism is good
Okay well I mean
about an update ago
read bordiga
If the dictatorship in power represented all my values I'd be fine
So basicly it was like an update ago?
I was aware about them killing drug smugglers but never the crackheads, so this is new information to me
yeah
the proletarian dictatorshipās purpose is the destruction of capitalist social relations
Ohhh
I mean I guess thatās kinda fair but Iāve always seen that view as kinda selfish since it doesnāt represent other ideas
this argument is such a shitfest oh my god
what makes other ideas worth representation?
he also participated in the fight against terrorists back in 2017 in Marawi City, so that's pretty cool
But even if such a government existed, I would hate it
clearly theyāre not since youāre allowed to vote
historically regressive forces do not deserve the right to govern
Ngl that's metal
It is selfish and it is wrong
our president at the time, joined the front.
imagine if he got shot at the time
that would be insane
we already live in a dictatorship, one of bourgeois interests
democracy in the present society is democracy not for society at large but democracy for the economic elites that govern it
what do yall think of the base
yeah the elites are overrepresented but their ideas should be represented in an equivalent form nonetheless
āoverrepresentedā and they are the only group that has any statistical significance on policy making
lol!
the boot cannot taste this good
oh damn your no longer mod now damn
yeah thatās what overrepresented means genius
I retired a year ago iirc
it is not, a democracy in which people are stratified but electoral power is still divided in some way has overrepresentation but not absolute domination from one class (see ancient rome)
Politicians are the elite
the class character of romeās government was obv aristocratic slaveholders but the urban poor had more representation than the working class of today
really?
the political and economic elite are one in the same as one determines the other
It's kind of fucked up how you need millions of dollars just to run for office
hear me out what if we just let fish vote
J
they voting Duterte just because Duterte fixed the Manila Bay
@midnight mauve @deft pewter LOVE OR WAR?
at least, that was the plan
ah wait, he did this to make the beach look at least good for tourists and stuff
Give me supreme power, I'll fix everything
because prior to this, the bay was just trash
@fickle igloo what i mean by āauthoritarianism is not inherently badā is not that i am opposed to democracy, in fact, in theory, i love democracy, it just is not a practically applicable theory. bourgeois democracy serves the bourgeoisie and it will always do so, there needs to be an upheaval by the working class and a formation of a fundamentally authoritarian dictatorship, one whose class character is proletarian and not bourgeois, to enter into a state of absolute equality, where all classes are abolished and the whole of society is turned into the working class (and when such a thing is done, the state, as an extension of class interests, also ceases to exist)
hello
Give me supreme power, I will fix something
oh more economics yapping above
itās closer to political philosophy than economics but yeah
after all, when was the last time Philippines went to shit after having military as focus
blind as well btw
WAIT SHIT EPILEPSY
you have the exact ideas but in reverse
You cannot have an authoritarian dictatorship without having a bourgeois class
the elites donāt want people who disagree with them to have political power
you believe the exact same thing
but in the opposite direction
you are equally regressive
EPILEPSY AND LOUD WARNING
you just put your ideas in red paint
good thing the server is not that active, otherwise, at least 1% chance a guy will be breakdancing on the floor for watching it
I'm such a good person
yeah
Once you give people unchecked power THEY BECOME THE ELITES
exactly
itās happened in every socialist experiment ever
choose your side
dictatorship or dictatorship (cherry flavored)
Omg fission
give me unchecked power nothing bad will happen :)
there are reasons for this
Hi
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- the only actual socialist experiment was russia; all others were not proletarian movements but influenced by something else, in china, it was a peasant - national bourgeois revolution
who allowed you to chat in my #šgeneral
- the failure of the western revolutions resulted in a disordered russia needing to adopt capitalist principles in order to coexist with the capitalist world order, which, to the bolsheviks (at the time), was seen as a temporary retreat, a wait for at most a few years until the fires of revolution brewed westward once again
oh fuck am i getting shot out back for this
- the growing āparliamentarizationā and ādemocratizationā of the bolshevik party, that is, the reconstitution of the bolsheviks from a revolutionary program to being based on political leadership
they adopted capitalist measures because the communist ones couldnāt put food on the table
read Lenin
you donāt know what youāre talking about
like on a fundamental, structural level
you do not know the root of marxism
also the soviets were going to be ostracized and excluded regardless of what policies they took
you are a visitor
you donāt even know what i meant by that
āin order to coexist with the capitalist world orderā
you talk like you know all when you know nothing
this chat is so much more entertaining in the morning
they literally did not truly coexist until they collapsed
yeah because socialism fundamentally cannot work in only one country
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exactly bruv
holy shit Bordiga
Okay well the same happened in every capitalist society without exception
capitalist economic principles were adopted for a variety of reasons but without a global overthrow of the capitalist order, there is no socialism to be found
holy shit italian left-communist amadeo bordiga
There's only been like 2-3 actual socialist experiments
watch out... im going bordigamode...
ok I have to go to my bourgeoisie school to get my bourgeoisie education so I can live in a bourgeoisie world
Most were installed by
there has only been one
we can pick this up in 8 hours
Can we say his name yet
whose?
Steel boy!
i would characterize only the german and russian revolutions as proletarian in nature
all others were bourgeois or petit bourgeois
nope
the biennio rosso also was proletarian but that failed to manifest as a proper revolution
so
which is stupid especially when it comes to this topic because i cant really expand on what i mean without mentioning him and his reforms directly
we live in a worldboxia where you cant mention the other chinese guy but you can mention deng xiaoping
this is agreed
never because worldbox is an idiocracy
how do you define the best gaming computer tho
@earnest cradle can you summarise what happened here for me
Bom
Strong in prefomance
conversation about like
morality
devolved into a conversation about the ethics
of communism
Whoops
Booty
We are discussing authoritarianism mainly
Ooh I love authoritarianism
I am authoritarian
Amazing
I'm a staunch hater of authoritarianism, oiljohn is an authoritarianism okayist
im not too keen on authoritarianism as a leftcom
but
no we are authoritain
Is it necessary though
that we'll have to debate about
yeah
What is a leftcom
if you think about it everything is necessary
the overthrow of the old society necessitates the creation of a dictatorship to uphold the overthrow of the old society
